The Strange Case of Time Slipping in Valdosta, GA

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
Then my mom.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
My MoMA, and hello and welcome to Magical Journey.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
I am your host, Daniel Kahn, and we have a
special show tonight. It's a different night, a different time,
and there's a reason behind that because tonight is all
about time slips, right. Actually, there's a couple other reasons
for that for tonight's show being a different time. But

(02:39):
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All right, So first of all, let me give you
guys a heads up. I usually don't do this, but
because the story has been a lot. And by a lot,
I mean my guest tonight has been overwhelmed by the

(04:28):
amount of attention that this got very unexpectedly, and we'll
talk about that a little bit too. Please be mindful
if she gets if she's going because she's still processing
some of this, if she's going through a moment where
she's trying to process and she's overwhelmed by something, just

(04:49):
breathe for her, Okay, Because it's been a lot. I
mean I followed this story and followed her on her
channel on on TikTok, and I've seen the numbers of
things that she's comments and so forth. She's having a
weed through to get to and so forth. So I know, right,

(05:14):
we do love Maria. Look, I've had an opportunity to
talk to her when you guys like are all like
off doing your own thing, because we've chatted off off
camera some and she's an amazing person. She really is.
It's such a great story. The story is it's overwhelming

(05:37):
and it is strange. And I'm going to bring Maria
to the to the stage now to let us talk
about it and meet her. Marie.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Hey, I'm kid, how are you girl?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
I've been waiting for this all week long, like a
kid stuck in a candy store with the doors locked.

Speaker 4 (06:02):
Oh. I've been nervous. I'm like, I'm not used to
all this attention and all this stuff. So I've been
like so nervous.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
I know I get it because I've watched it. It's
been like a just like you're caught in a hell
storm outside.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Yes, yes, very much.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
And I get it. I do because it's you know
you sent well you know what. We'll get into that
in a moment. Introduce yourself and if you will, just
promote anything you want to promote. It's it's all about
finding out about you right this minute.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Okay, Well, my name is Maria. We've been angel Lady
one on TikTok. I'm a mom before a wife. It's
kind of a stay at home mom. I'm just nobody really,
and I also have a small art side art business
that I do. It's a quite librarian if you actually

(07:04):
find it on TikTok or on Facebook, where I sell
art made out of recycled books. So, yeah, there's my
snameless plug, right.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
And you know what, her stuff is really awesome, Like
she's got you got talent, girl, You got to.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Here.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
Here's the here's the thing, here's the setup. Okay, so
time slips. First of all, let's talk for a second
about time slips, because that's what the real subject is tonight.
For those of you that are skeptical, let me assure
you that there are you know, there's schools of thought

(07:48):
in the science community about what time is and how
it operates.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Right.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
There are there is a school of thought in the
time in the community of scientists that say that time
is not linear. I see a lot of folks think
time does this, right, it does not. And that's what
the theory is with time slips, is that or time glitches,

(08:15):
as some people call it. I think that's like become
almost a catch phrase on your channel. Yeah, and so
with that, time is the theory is that time is linear,
that past, present, and future are all happening at once,

(08:37):
and whatever space you're occupying at the time, your timeline
is operating. Usually that's where you're normally at. But occasionally
something wonky happens and there's a slip or a tear
in time and people find themselves transported, transport momentarily into

(09:03):
a different time frame. Now, sometimes this can be extreme.
There's been cases of time frames where people have gone
back to medieval period and you know, the same place,
same place they were just walking in or driving through whatever,
But all of a sudden, they're walking around and there's

(09:24):
Victorian clothing and there's a horse and buggy and everything
is all different, and people are looking at you like
you're weird because you're not in the same clothing. You're
not you don't look like them, You've got different makeup on,
everything is different about you. You may even have a

(09:46):
cell phone in your hand. That's where time slips aren't
getting really weird. Yeah, and then you may like that
may last for just a moment or and then you'll
be right back where you were to start with. That's
kind of what a time slip normally is. Maria's story

(10:09):
is a little bit different, and there's some key elements.
There's some key elements there that's very different. So Maria,
let's start off with you telling folks exactly what happened
in the best to the best of your current memory.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
Okay, So this happened in August twelve, two thousand and seven,
and it was me, my two brothers, my sister, and
my sister in law, and we had got out that
my favorite uncle in the entire world had passed away
very very suddenly. And so the five of us decided

(10:49):
we're going to make that strip down to Florida on
a Friday. We're there Friday, Saturday, we did the whole
you no family wake thing or whatever, and then Sundays
we buried him. But we ought to be back at
work on Monday. So original of the plan was we're
going to be leave like two o'clock in the afternoon
after we did like the whole family after funeral brunch
type situation, and we just you know, we were seeing

(11:11):
family members we hadn't seen them very very long time,
you know, and it's going to specim with people we
haven't gotten seen a while. We were just having a
really good time, sharing memories and talking and laughing and crying,
and so we lived staying a little bit later. We
left about five o'clock in the evening and we started
making our way back home. And it was a normal,

(11:33):
a normal trip at that point. We were just driving, laughing,
listening to music, just having a really just a really
good time. And we don't get to spend a lot
of time with all of us lives together and wondering
at that point, so it was nice to have this
kne trip together. And so we got through Florida, crossed

(11:54):
over the border and I remember I remember seeing the
Flying Jays sign and like, okay, I've had too good gas.
Let's just you know, we've got a long drive. We
just have like five hours ahead of us, Like let's
just keep let's get as far as we can before
we stopped the gas and bathroom breaks and all that.
And then all of a sudden, like right past Tifton,

(12:18):
like I had this like painful I've got to go
to the bathroom, like right this second, like I've gotta
be really really bad, like we've got to stop. And
so I just got off the first exit that we
came across, Susan. I had that feeling not thinking thinking,
you know that there's there's got to be something, you know,
how many egit you get off, there's like nothing there,

(12:39):
you know what I mean. So I'm like, okay, so
I'm just gonna get off this exit. And it was
just a stop sign, you know. And I looked left,
looked right, and I said, okay, well we're just gonna
go right. There was no no hotels, no restaurants, no
no other gas stations. There was nothing but trees on
this little straight, two lane road. And I remember kind

(13:01):
of bouncing in my seat. And we were driving for
like fifteen twenty minutes and the next thing, what heck,
was that I skies, I see things. So we're driving

(13:21):
like like fifteen twenty minutes and I see like like
lights and it's a gas station. Great, So I make
a left into the gas station, park right in front
of the pups, and I jumped out of the car
and I just run in the gas station and did
one of those quick like real look around, you know,

(13:42):
And I see the sign that says restroom. So I
just bolt in, not paying attention to my surroundings. Nothing
like that. I go in do my business, and it's funny.
It's one of the most popular questions I get was
do the toilets flush? Yes? Toilets flushed, Yes, the water worked,
I washed my hands. There was nothing remarkable about the

(14:06):
bathroom or anything like that. It's just like a little
grungey country gas station bathroom, you know. So I opened
the door, and that's right. My siblings were all standing
like in front of the bathroom door. And so my
sister like runs past me, and I'm kind of like, okay,
they're kind of being like they're being really really quiet,
and I'm like, that's just kind of odd. And then

(14:28):
my brother t starts doing that whole like. You know,
so you're trying to get somebody's attention. It looks somewhere,
but you don't want to say anything, so you're kind
of going like, you know, look over there, you know.
And so and I was as I looked where he
was trying to get me look at, and that's when
I noticed the gentleman behind the counter. And it was
this older gentleman, thinning gray hair, very very very thin,

(14:52):
very gaunt, his cheeks were sunk in. He had like
a kind of a scrabblely be He was wearing a
white stained T shirt like you can see like the
pit stains. It was a grunsy dirty shirt and a
pair of like grunsy dirty overalls. And the one thing

(15:12):
I remember who word of anything is his eyes, like
how dark his eyes were, and they were just they
were so deep. And at first I'm thinking, okay, like
business dude, you know, because it's the word a bunch
of Hispanic kids, you.

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Know, in rural Georgia, you know, and you know we're
in the Bible Belt, you know, so you know, it
can be kind of scary sometimes for people Columbian rural areas.

Speaker 4 (15:40):
And so I'm thinking, like, okay, this's gonna be a problem,
like what's going on. And I remember like looking at
my brother Tea, and he was just staring very intently
at this man, and my brother r and my sister
el small l they were very just kind of like
looking at each other and like looking back at him,
looking at the guy looking at me and not saying
anything and that. And I also noticed that the man

(16:04):
wasn't moving, like there was no saxatial expressions. There was
no emotion. It was just this staring straight ahead, hands
it aside, just nothing there. And so I said, okay,
So I kind of like the feelings like it's like
growing of like we don't belong here, like there's there's

(16:27):
something wrong, and I kind of go I go around.
There was so there was like three aisles and they
were all about you know, I could see over them.
So I come around the one aisle and started coming
up almost grab some stacks and I'll fill up and
we'll get out here. And the snacks and like the

(16:47):
candy and stuff was like old, like the labels looked older,
and I was like, okay, like but everything was dusty,
and I thought, oh, this is kind of gross. I'm
not gonna touch anything. I'm not gonna never mind. And
then as I walked back around this month, I really
noticed like the cooler, the three coat coolers, and it

(17:09):
was just there. The glass was like grungy and dirty,
and the the the lights every like what would like
flicker every once in a while. Okay, not getting a drink,
And so I went back to where my brother and
sisters were and it was just this feeling of like okay,
like it's getting worse, Like this feeling is getting worse,
and like I got that that feeling like when you're

(17:32):
on a rollercoaster and your son have just that sudden
drop feeling, and it was, yeah, like I need to
get out here. I gotta get my siblings out of here.
We've got to go. And so as soon as my
sister opened that door, I grabbed her hand and we
just bolted to the car and I jumped in the car.

(17:54):
Everybody jumps in, and so we'd made a left into
the gas station, so logically, in order for us to
go back to the highway, we should we made a
right out of the gas station to go back towards
the highway, and so everybody's kind of that's kind of
it's kind of weird, you know, and you're not really
thinking anything of it, you know, and we're driving, and

(18:15):
we're driving, and it was like another fifteen twenty minutes, okay,
like we should have been the highway by now, like
what the heck? And that's why I noticed the light
lights again on the left hand side. So I kind
of slow down and it's the same gas station, except
this time the gentleman is now out the window. He's

(18:36):
facing out and he's like staring at us, and everyone's
don't go go. So I just I flo it straight
because I'm not getting back. I'm not pulling back from
that gas station. Like there's no way in hell I'm
pulling back into this gas station. Excuse me. So I
just kept going, thinking, you know, maybe something woul give

(18:58):
us directions, maybe there's another way, like I must have
I must have made like a must have been like
a fork in the road or a curved I didn't realize,
or something that must have looped us back around, like
they're had to be right. And we're driving. We're driving
like okay, what is going on? And it's another fifteen
twenty minutes and I'm like, all right, this is getting ridiculous.

(19:21):
And so I start noticing like there's like there's like
a break in the trees, and I pull up. I
go down a little bit and see what it is.
Maybe it's you know, another another you know store or
restaurant something, and that's what I noticed. It's the guy.
It's the same gas station, but this time the lights
were all off except for the one street light, and

(19:44):
it was just it was boarded up like there's ivy
growing all over the building. Half the roof was like
caved in, and yeah, it looked like he had been
abandoned for for years, like it had been been for
a very long time. And and then I was, what
the hell? And that's what I noticed our tire marks

(20:05):
on the ground of us pulling out, and so I
just my brother started screaming at me to go. My
eye was freaking out, and I started as driving and
we were at the highway within five minutes. And yeah,
so that's that's the story. That's what happened.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
Every time I hear that, I like, and it's so guys,
here's here's the first thing. If you're skeptical, let me
assure you, Like Marias told this story a hundred times lately,
I'm sure I'm under exaggerating, and every single time, like

(20:46):
the order, everything is exact. So you know, my first
thought after hearing this about four or five times, was
it's crazy. Because when somebody is going off a memory,
that's how they tell the story. They they're processing everything

(21:12):
just as they remember it why they're talking, and they
do it chronologically. They may forget a detail and go
back and say, oh, I forgot this. But the next
time you hear that story, the detail will be in
the right place at the right time, and you know
it's there. That's the thing that really clued me. And

(21:34):
I was like, there's no way. I mean, you know,
the first time you hear it, you're like, am I
hearing the story right? The second time you hear it,
you're like, oh my god, I really did hear all
these details, you know, And the third and fourth time
you hear it, you're like, there is absolutely this is
total recall that she's doing this. But there's no way

(21:57):
anybody can be skeptical and say Maria's you know, a
really good story writer or whatever. That's not the way
people do whenever they're whenever. It's not a real thing.
That's why I knew that this was what we're dealing with,
is something way more real than we wanted to wrap

(22:17):
our head around. Well.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
And also I've you know, I've also I've talked to
my brother, I text him, you know, he's he's shared information,
answer people's questions on my lives and stuff like that.
You know, But like my kids grew up here in
the story, you know, so you could ask any of
my kids. They'd be like, yeah, I remember a long
telling you the story when I was like five six
years old. You know, Jeremy has heard the story for

(22:42):
as long as we've been together, you know. So it's
it's something that like my family has always like I've had.
It's a crazy experience. They always known about it, you know.
So it does get frustrating for me sometimes that people
just get really rude and asked you about it, Like
that's the one thing that bothers me. Orn't anything, you know.
But I also didn't come to share my story to

(23:05):
to like, hey, like believe me, believe my story. Believe
me if you want to, you don't have to. It's
it's completely your decision. I shared my story with Ashley
to try to find answers, right, that was the whole
purpose of this. I was hoping, you know, I didn't.
I didn't think it blow up like this at all.
Like that was that was like my that was I'm

(23:26):
still kind of like in shock over all of it,
but it was okay. Maybe a couple of people might
have the theory of what happened, or maybe somebody you
know is from that area and by you know, recognized
what the you know, the gas station might look like Okay,
I know where that is. You know, something along those sides.
I never thought it would have turned into what it
has at all.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Right, And just to verify, guys, I know I've hinted
this out to people and mentioned Ashley Inc. To you
guys uh in on other platforms and so forth. But
what Maria's referring to when she mentions Ashley is Ashley Inc.

(24:07):
Which is Ashley's biggest platform is on TikTok, but she's
also on YouTube too, and I really suggest you guys
go visit her specifically look for the links to the
episodes where she's talking about Maria and her story, because

(24:29):
here's the thing. The next thing that really happened that
triggered my oh crap response was the email they got
from an outside source. Okay, and Maria just hinted about that,
and I'm glad she did because I was kind of

(24:50):
that was my next thing to bring up. So Maria,
now you're setting there, mind your own business. You just
share this story. He has blown up all over the place.
You're freaking out because all you like, you know, here
you are, you're just like running your having your best life.

(25:11):
Running your your world the way you normally do, and
you sent this email and now all of a sudden
you've got people coming out of the woodwork going, oh
my god. And then Ashley gets an email, yes from
an outside.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Sport email, so me, it was me and Jeremy and
Sophie were just sitting outside. It's a beautiful day, like
we're talking about like, hey, I get the front porch
fined off because you're talking about like normal Saturday Sunday
kind of stuff. And then all of a sudden, I
looked down on my phone. He's like dang ding ding.

(25:49):
I'm like, what is going on? It's TikTok and I'm like,
what the hell is going on? And people had gone
to the I shared my story on my pain as
well because people were asking questions on Ashley secar loss.
Ought to make my own day down share it and
there's an update. There's an update that there's an update,
and I'm like, well, how is there possibly an update?

(26:10):
Like that makes zero sense? And so I immediately actually
tagged me and it's immediately went over to her page
and I remember like seeing it and like literally like
just like it's shaking. And so basically what it was
is this gentleman and he came forth that he wanted
to have made anonymous. He came out as John Doe,

(26:34):
and he used to fake email address to us so
like we couldn't email him or anything like that. And
he says, hey, you know, I'm freaking out as I'm
writing this letter to you guys, but I think that
that was my dad at the gas station. And he
goes in to tell us about how his dad was

(26:55):
a drug addict and an alcoholic, a Vietnam veteran who
have like coastraumatic stress stuff, and how he worked at
this gas station and he worked at nights, just the
gas station, and he came home early one night, and
this was in nineteen eighty four. So this that's the
big des the big thing put there. It was he

(27:16):
said it was nineteen eighty four and that his dad
came home and told him and his sister that five
ghosts from the future shut up at his job. And
of course they all thought he was supposedly sober at

(27:36):
this point in time, and so of course his whole
family thinks that he's relapsed. And he even apparently took
them to the store and showed them the tire marks
and said that he said, he said that his dad
said that he realized that she and the tire marks
wouldn't prove anything to them, And so John Dan's mom

(27:57):
kicked his dad out of the house. They moved out,
and he was separated from his dad for sixteen years.
And so that was the last we heard of that.
So of course I like freaking out about this, going
what does this mean?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You know?

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Now I am getting more questions and answers, So, okay,
what happened? What happens now? Like what does it all
this mean? Then the next day he emails back and
it's the same guy he used the fake the same
fake email address. So this isn't just like multiple people
like he had to know exactly what fake email address

(28:34):
he used, you know. So he uses the same email
address and he comes back with some more information saying
that oh it was Abald Alston, it was off of
three seventy six. You know, it kind of gives a
little bit more information or whatever. And he also says, hey,
I'm going if I can. I've got this picture of
me and my dad when we were at oh gosh ery,

(29:02):
the big place with the big president faces.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
On it not Rushmore.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Not rushmore. Thank you that there are not rushmore for
a vacation. And so but he apparently his mom has
passed away, his dad's passed away, and his sister's passed away.
His sister had all the family photos, so he is
going to have to go through his brother in law
to try to get these Pittmans picture. So we waited

(29:30):
and we waited, and that was the last wee we
hadn't heard anything from him. No, hey, we're still looking
for the picture. We heard nothing from him, and so
me and Ashley had been working on she would to
do a podcast as well, and I was like, okay, yeah,
we'll do this podcast. That's cool. And so that literally
is like the time he was insane. The day that

(29:53):
we were supposed to the podcast was like three weeks later.
He emails the picture his dad and if you want,
I can show the picture. If gout it on my phone,
I can show it if you want, Okay, I'll show it.
So but you know, and but while we're waiting for
this picture, like we're waiting, we're waiting, We're waiting. I'm

(30:14):
going hey, like I was starting to come conclusion thinking
that maybe he had gotten spooped by all of the
attention that this has gotten. But he had kind of
ghost to us or whatever. But he had sent a
picture and he'd created an email where we could actually
contact him back. So he sends this picture and so me.

(30:36):
Actually at that time, he didn't say we could or
could not share it, so we didn't want to share
it without his permission. So we go live as we
can't sek the podcast, We go live on tiktoking now
and say we've got the picture. And I am like
ninety five percent surance this guy because just the hairline,
the shape of the nose, the things were just very

(30:57):
very similar. And then so I emailing him right now.
She emailed him and said, hey, can you know are
you okay? Do we have your permission to share the picture?
He's like, you share the picture. The only request he
had was he had two requests, one that we crop
him out of the picture, which I've done, and numbered

(31:18):
she that anybody recognizes him to please not share his
family in publicly and to contact you on me or
Ashley with that information. So I will show you guys
the picture of John does dead.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Yeah, And I just want to reiterate, if you are
watching this and you recognize this man, do not put
his name out there publicly like you can. You can
email me and I'll get in touch with Maria. You
can get in touch with her through TikTok however you
want to. You can get in touch with Ashley. But

(31:58):
do not put this family in came out there, please.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yes. And then I had also I kind of wanted
people to see kind of like what I saw. So
I think it was like two or three days after
like actually shared the story, I did an ai picture
of the guy that I saw, and so I kind
of do the side by side. So this is the
side by side picture. So when I was saying that

(32:24):
he was like really healthy, he looks well, pemp, he
looks like all American kind of dad, you know. But
the gentleman that I saw was very I mean almost
I wanna say, skeletal, like he was just so thin.
But you know, again, I do have this like typical

(32:45):
part of my brain that I think still tries to
look for logical reasons for things, even when there might
not be a logical reason. But you know, like the pictures,
I can't see his eyes in that picture he's wearing
the dark sunglasses.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
All.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
So the discrepancy in the areas. So John Doe was
saying Valdosta. I know I was past Valdosta, so there's
that discrepancy. So that's why I've always I've been saying,
I'm like ninety five percent sure it's him, and that

(33:20):
just I remember when I saw that picture for the
first time. I was I was on the back porch.
I lived on my back porch. I love my back porch,
and I was sitting up there by myself and actually
immediately text me and she's like I've got the picture,
and I'm like what, And I just remember like dropping

(33:41):
my phone and just having this just urge to just
start crying. It was a very emotional reaction seeing that pictures.
I think we saw the picture. It was almost like
there was that validation that yes, this really did happen,
and here's here's your proof that happened, if that makes

(34:03):
if that makes sense. So yeah, it was a very
very emotional emotional reaction for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, I can imagine, and this is so this was
the next thing that I went, Okay, now we're getting
like some crazy stuff going on here. Because the chances
of this happening. And you know, I'll go over a

(34:35):
couple of the but Daniel, this could be blah blah
blah blah blah. I'll go over that in a second.
But here hear me out, guys. So the fact that
there's a couple of things very interesting about words he
chose to use, uh, the fact that he knew how

(34:58):
many people we're in the store. And there's there's one
thing that I'm going to point out because I know
there's somebody going, well, how did he know that they
were from the future? So they were driving okay, and
they were driving a vehicle, and we'll get to that

(35:19):
in a minute. I got this all thought out, okay,
because I know there are skeptics out there, and I'm
really setting up proving a case to you guys while
Maria's sharing her story, so so so we can get
rid of some of the ridiculous skepticism, because I'm telling you, guys,

(35:42):
Maria is not the first person to experiences not the
last person to experience it.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
I've had so many people share their stories with me too,
and it's it's crazy how many people have had experiences
similar to mine.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
And she's not the first person to have this way
experience in the same location. Let's be very clear on
that too, because that's important detail. Okay, now let's jump
back a minute. Let's talk about the vehicle. So SUVs

(36:18):
did not start out as SUV's. Okay, they were actually
I think they were called utility vehicles at one point.
They started out as a military thing. Of course, the
troop fin wagon was built in and actually sold in

(36:41):
nineteen twenty one. It was aerodynamic. It was not this
we're going to talk about the aerodynamics as well. It
was the first aerodynamic vehicle that was sold. So aerodynamics
as we think of them now was in its infant
stages as early as nineteen twenty one. That's a key

(37:05):
factor too, because the aerodynamics of the car that they
were driving, or the vehicle they were driving that day,
is very different from the aerodynamics of that time period.
SUVs did not really become popular with the public until

(37:26):
the nineteen nineties, and that's when they sort of started
flooding the market. Nineteen thirty five, Chevrolet created the carryall Suburban,
which was you know, I'm going to put pictures of
these vehicles up on my Facebook, possibly definitely on Patreon,

(37:53):
but that was. That was one of the first SUVs
that was kind of like but it wasn't really called
it an suv at the time, and they were very boxy.
It kind of looked like a merger of a station wagon,
an old school station wagon, married a truck and they

(38:17):
had a baby. That's the best way I can describe
it now. Nineteen eighty four cheap chero Key was the
first modern day model of something that was similar. That's
still not quite there. Okay, it was not the kind

(38:41):
of suv. Well, they weren't even called subs at the time.
It wasn't even the type of suv that you saw
in the nineties, okay and in the early two thousands.
So there's that. The crossover cars, which is more like
you were driving like almost a mini sub right, Yeah,

(39:03):
it was.

Speaker 4 (39:04):
The kind of compact sub.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, those are crossovers. The crossover cars did not really
start happening until two thousands. Okay. AMC had the first
crossover in nineteen ninety seven, but again it was kind

(39:28):
of like a let's try it and see what happens,
and not a lot after that for quite a while.
So the crossovers like Maria was driving, were really not
a thing until the until the two thousands. So the
car is a big factor here because how did he

(39:49):
know that these that anything about the future, because there
was no money transaction, there was no cell phones out,
none of that, none of that. It was it was
his recognition of the car.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Now, I think it would have to be the car,
because I mean, yes, like we were, we were working
like like just like playing clothes. Nothing that I can
think that really stood out that would be kind of futuristic.
I mean it was like shorts, tent tops, t shirtsliplops,
you know, just comfortable traveling clothes, you know. I mean

(40:23):
if you look at the pictures of a two thousand
and four Bu Gardezvous, even in two thousand and seven,
that was a pretty futuristic looking car, you know. So
that's the only thing I can really think of that
would have kind of set him off.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Right because you got to remember, like even the aerodynamics
of nineteen twenty one, if you go back and you research,
it is very different than the two thousands. So the
car would have looked I mean when when you showed
the first the picture of it the other day, I

(41:01):
was like, yeah, gen xers back in you know, those
of us who remember, you know, cars from that time
period that would have stuck out like a sore thumb.

Speaker 4 (41:14):
Right.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Okay, now let's talk for a minute about the So
here's here's a part that we're going to talk about
that is not in the story yet. Okay, the here's

(41:47):
the time frames that we're looking at that are irrelevant
and important to this story. Okay, So Maria's in two
thousand and seven, her and her family, they had the car,
the driving down the road is two thousand and seven
in their timeline. In the timeline that this man would

(42:09):
have been in, based on the story that his son gave,
would have been nineteen eighty four. Maria, what year did
this man pass?

Speaker 4 (42:24):
I believe it was two thousand and one. I believe
he said exactly.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Okay, So let that sink in for a minute, guys,
because this is important. This man Maria was in two
thousand and seven, this man was in nineteen eighty four.
When Maria saw this man, he had already been he

(42:51):
had already gone by what six years?

Speaker 4 (42:57):
So yeah, it had been six years.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
He had passed six years to that time period. Okay,
Now here's the other thing. Maria, what condition was the
store in.

Speaker 4 (43:13):
The first time.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
The first time.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I mean it looks like like a whole just country
kind of worn down gas station. I mean, it wasn't
in disrepair. It was kind of grungy, like I remember,
like the inside it was kind of like dark and
there was just like one there's one big for us
at lights in there. Because it was really small, and

(43:39):
I got I like, I've seen people say a picture
these big places. I'm like, Gill, But like I tell you, guys,
it was small. It was small. And there was a
gentleman who said, oh, that kind of gas station was
they called an ice box style and those were popular
in the thirties and forties. So I said, okay, but
it was a red brick square building. It just wasn't anything.

(44:07):
It wasn't anything like that really stood out. But it
was just it was a kind of grungy, you know,
a hole in the wall kind of gas station. Nothing
nothing like spectacular, really memorable about it unless you have
this kind of experience.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
Right right now. What about Was there anything about the
the stuff on the shelves other than it looked dated
that was unusual to you. What was the state of
the store as far as cleanliness, goes and so forth.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
It was dusty and my brother I'd asked him, like, hey,
like do you remember anything. He says, you remember seeing
moldy bread. And I was like, okay, well I don't
remember seeing the moldi bread. But that's when we met
my brother. My brother's hearing compair of his deaf and
so one thing I have learned through my forty three
years with him is that people who are deaf tend

(45:09):
to be more observant with things. And so he he
seemed to have noticed things that I didn't notice. So
but he said he saw he remembered the mouldy bread.
I just remember thinking kind of being dusty and feeling
kind of like even the air kind of felt gritty.
Does that make sense? Like it's like like your skin

(45:31):
kind of felt gritty after leaving out of their So
it was just it wasn't it was wasn't glean, But
I mean it wasn't like disgusting, filthy. You know, it's
hard to explain. It was just really weird. I remember
the smell. For me, I would say it was like
almost like stagnant, kind of musty smell. And but my

(45:58):
brother says he remembers is it smelling kind of moldy,
And it smelled he smelled of sweat, is what he
said to So it's also kind of interesting how we
both kind of had different senses about things that smars
have to smell when.

Speaker 3 (46:15):
So that's one of the things with with people who
are who are you know, missing a sense too, that
all the senses that are still at present are heightened.
So his sense of smell is probably much much different too. Yeah,

(46:35):
you know, so the fact that he smelled sweat is
very interesting. So here's here's here's here's where I'm starting
to formulate some things in my mind. Okay, So this
man had already in Maria's timeline, had already passed in

(47:01):
his timeline that he was in at the time that
Maria saw him. You know, it was nineteen eighty four
where Maria was seeing it seeing you know, a dusty
almost I kept, you know, kind of store that looked

(47:25):
like it was pretty much just neglected, And we don't
know what he was seeing on his side. What we
do know is how he saw Maria and her family
because Ashley and her and I really want to get
Ashley on to talk to her about this if I
can and her reading of the letter from John Doe

(47:53):
the Sun. When she read the letter, she was reading
it and he said, and I quote ghost from the future. Okay,
that's what the words was that he wrote down. Now,
he didn't say people from the future. He said ghost
from the futures.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
What is he says it? He says it in the email.
Looking I'm like I should looking at the email right now.
He specifically says it three times in the email. He
says that specific specific words.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Denise asked what the gas station name is? Did we
ever find out what? No?

Speaker 4 (48:35):
No, So.

Speaker 3 (48:39):
To clarify things, like Maria understands like she has a
vague idea of like some things around the gas station.
But you know, when you're in a hurry to get
into a building, you're really just looking at the front door,
and you're focused on that front of the store. So

(49:01):
the biggest detail we have from the outside of the
building is the front of the stoor where because she
gotta go. Okay, she ain't playing. So you know, when
you're in that frame of mind, you process exactly what
you're looking at. You're looking at the path of least resistance.

(49:23):
You're looking at that front door and whatever is around it,
So the windows, the door, the old pumps.

Speaker 5 (49:30):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
If you've ever seen some of the retro gas stations,
it wasn't like now, you know, now we have all
these pretty awnings and everything over this was a literally
a slab of concrete with two very dated pumps on them,
which is another thing. Had Mario gone to try to

(49:52):
get gas, she would have found that probably even the
gas nozzles wouldn't have fit right in the car because
of the time period. I could be wrong, but I
believe that the gas pump change on the part that
goes into the car. I believe that took place later,

(50:15):
prior to posts nineteen eighty four, I believe. Don't quote
me on that, but I believe so. Now on his side,
he was seeing what he believed to be ghost. We
don't have any idea because he never like really gave

(50:39):
a clear indication of why he used those terms. And
unfortunately he is no longer around to really talk about this.
But that's a giveaway. Not people ghost. Okay. Maria, on
the other hand, was seeing a store that looked neglected
and a man who had aged quite a bit from

(51:02):
the picture that she saw. Okay, so and he appeared
to be unhealthy at that time, so Maria is seeing
him closer to her time period, which is very interesting
because how do you see things from different perspectives and

(51:28):
different times, but they're occupying the same time and space.
This is what I'm talking about about linear versus nonlinear
time periods. Okay, we don't understand how this works shit,
but it's very possible that when you got two people

(51:50):
who are actively engaging in an experience at the same
time and from different time periods, there may be a
spectrum of time going on there. You see what I'm saying.
You may have multiple layers of time periods going on

(52:10):
at once. So the reason why the store was unkept,
she may have actually walked into the store in both
the future and the past.

Speaker 4 (52:21):
I think we're overlapping exactly exactly.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
This is a theory. It's only a theory I have.
I mean, honestly, there's I'm still working on things, scientists
are working on things. We don't know exactly what happened,
but these are all things that are good indicators that
something in time was messed up. Okay. The one of

(52:47):
the things that I really find interesting too, is the
fact that your story differs a little bit from some
of them because you looped back to this thing two
times in the same like he was the same guy
was in it two times. The first time he was

(53:10):
looking at you guys, face forward because you were in
the store. The second time he was looking out the window.

Speaker 4 (53:17):
Yes. And that's also interesting because in the email, John
Doe says that his father said, I'll actually tell you.
He says, he says that basically he saw that he
saw us drive by again, driving really slow. So John

(53:39):
Doe actually said that his exact words are, the car
was from the future too, and after they left, they
came back to watch me driving driving by really slow.
So those are those are That's a quote from John
Doe himself, So that kind of corroborates why he might've
been looking out the window too.

Speaker 3 (54:02):
And see, these are all things. These This is why
I'm telling you, Like when those of you that's watching
or will be watching that wants to do paranormal investigation
or research, here's a very big clue for you, guys.
Pay attention to the little details. Pay attention to like cars,

(54:33):
the wrappers on food in the in the case of
a time slip, Maria, you found a really good photo
of several different candy bars from that time period and
and recognize them.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
Uh, do you want me to show them?

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I can sure and all that. Yeah, look at that.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
So you're like, like, if you were to see that,
you go, oh, that's Eminem's. But you see how the
lettering is just off. If that makes sense, how everything
seems a little bit different. That's right, And so he said,
the invention We'll go back to look at vintage candy topic. Okay,
so I started, I typed it like candy wrappers from
the nineteen fifties. No, that's too old, so sixties seventies.

(55:28):
So what I'm looking at it looks like it was
anywhere from like the late seventies to mid eighties the
type of wrappers that I saw, Right.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
The fonts are different, the logos you know, are are
going to be different.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
In the case of some of them. The packaging is
much different now they've modernized it quite a bit. There's
even the material that that like the look of the
material can be that the packaging is made of can
be somewhat different. So you know, these are details that's

(56:08):
really important to process when you're when you're researching or
and or investigating these types of things. So, my guys
out there that are trying to call yourself wanting to
do research here, here's where you've got to start changing
your thought processes is listening to the details, like intensely, okay,

(56:33):
and getting those little details, because that's that will clee
you into a lot of things. Words ghost, Why would
he say ghost instead of people? Most people? Whenever you
when you're telling somebody something like I saw these five
people come in from the store and they were from
the future. This man did not use the word people either.
You used the word ghost. How do you how do

(57:00):
you process about that? What are you thinking about when
you hear that? You know, what is our modern concept
of ghost? You know, you got to think about these
things when when you're when you're hearing these people talking
about their stories. Let me throw something else out there

(57:21):
for you guys, just to make this more more weird.
So now you basically, Maria, the the location that you
talked about was not necessarily in Valdosta proper, right, because
tip Tifton, Tipton is Tifted, is it Tifted is right

(57:46):
north of there? Right?

Speaker 4 (57:47):
It's about fifty miles north of Valdosta, Okay.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
So, and where you were at was s R. Three
seventy six or three seventy nine, which was it?

Speaker 4 (57:58):
It was? It was three of these stakes. And Valdosta
is what John Doe said, is where he remembers his
dad's gas station being. He never gave like an exact
street or an exact address or anything like that. And
he said it was like something like Billy's or Bobby's
or something along those lines. But he didn't give any
like exact like coordinates or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Right. And again, you know you're talking about country folks,
because this wasn't a town at that time. It was
a country, okay, And so we all know that when
when we're talking about something. You know, when I talked
about my hometown, you know, the town limits, the township's

(58:43):
borders may be here, and my house may be over here,
but because I live that close to the borders, I'm
still going to say that I'm in that town, right, Okay.
So you got to think about the way that people
process and talk about things too. Here in the South, Southerners,

(59:04):
we all we gravitate to whatever we're closed to. You know,
if if if the area where your house is at
is two blocks away from you know, Chicken Holler or
whatever you want to call it. You're going to say
I live in Chicken Holler, whether you do properly or not,

(59:26):
vigorious of what your zip maybe your zip code is
charge a Chicken Holler. That's the other thing. Wherever your
ZIP code is and in the rural areas, your ZIP
code may not be right where the town is itself.
That's what you get. So again, because people have tried
to you've you've had people going out looking for the location.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
I've had I've had public four or five people who
live in that area actually go out and drive the area.
I'd even I'd even I spit that trip to Florida
multiple times a year. At that last time I was
even dow was down there with twenty nineteen for my
aunt's funeral. And every single time I make that trip back,

(01:00:11):
like I'm looking at and I don't know if it's
if it's just like out of habit or what it is,
but it's gotten to where like every single time I
come back, I'm like looking for this exit. And that's
the other thing too, is what I also find kind
of strange and ought about the whole situation is I
can't even find the freaking exit, you know. And I

(01:00:33):
had come back from Jacksonville one time visiting my half sister,
and I was like, Okay, I've got time. It's the
middle of the day. Why not. And I got off
like four or five exits and like drove down twenty minutes.
Nothing came back with the next exit. No, that's not it.
And if I was like, okay, so this is I.
I did that right after Tifton, and so I can't

(01:00:57):
even find the exit that take where it was. So
I always find that very frustrating because I would love
I would love to see this gas station. No, No,
that sounds absolutely insane, but I think it would just
be that other little tick in my box, I guess.

(01:01:18):
And at the same time, I'm very realistic. It's been
twenty years and that area has been built up so
much it's probably not standing. If it was there, it's
probably not standing anymore. And I can imagine the trees
being torn down, the building being gone, you know, and

(01:01:39):
a hotel or a strip mall or something being built
over that area now. So the chances was honestly finding it.
I don't feel like we're going to find it, and
I'm trying to be okay with that, you know what.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I mean, right right, And so I kind of dropped
where I was going with one thing there for a minute.
One of the difference, and now I'm going to go
back to that one of the differences in Maria's story
opposed to some of the others, which makes us very
unique and very It gives us a glimpse into time

(01:02:18):
slips that we normally don't get. The first two times,
they were most likely both times in nineteen eighty four
or somewhere around that time period. We don't. We have

(01:02:38):
to assume that because he told his family that they
came back around and they drove quickly, they drove by slowly,
that they were still in nineteen eighty four. It was
still the same experience. So there's a clue there that
tells us that that at that point they were still
in nineteen eighty four in on his time line. But

(01:03:06):
then something happened that hasn't doesn't happen a whole lot.
They came back a third time, and the third time
there's a completely different like it. There's a change. Okay,
the the what are some of the details you remember

(01:03:27):
about the building's condition on the third time around.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
Just how broken down it was. I mean it was
it was crumbling, and I remember that there was just
like the windows were boarded up, the door was boarded up,
and like half of like the so if you're facing
the building, like the right side, like half of it

(01:03:53):
was just like the roof part and like part of
the top of building was just gone, you know, and
all the pumps were gone. It was just.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
The the concrete slab and then like some uh like
types I guess, I mean, I add that little concrete
so the actual pumps themselves were no longer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:17):
There either, right which, which when a gas station becomes abandoned,
that is one of the things that usually happens is
they take the for whatever reason. You always see these
like like antique shops, mom and pop shops and so

(01:04:40):
forth on your way through rural areas, and they've got
these retro pumps setting around that they take. Somehow they
wind up being taken out of the away from the buildings.
I'm assuming that they're collected by the company is that
was supplying the gas for them, and eventually wind up

(01:05:03):
being sold to you know, sold an auction as antiques
or something. But either way, that's one of the things
that happens when a place is abandoned. So the third
time around, they have obviously skipped into another time for
time frame here, which is very interesting because normally that's

(01:05:29):
not something that happens. But again, this really supports the
theory that multiple timelines can happen in the same place
at the same time in a time slit. Okay, which
is what I was talking about about, how they were
viewing each other like he's viewing them from his timeline,

(01:05:54):
they're viewing him from his timeline and theirs, you know,
and he may have you know, been somewhat within their
time frame as well their timeline. It's hard to say.
But either way, that third time around, they were seeing

(01:06:16):
the store and another timeline and one in its decay,
when one where it's declined, it's it's shut down, it's
falling apart. So this is this is a very big
clue to guys when you're when you're dealing with these
types of stories. If there's something unique about the story

(01:06:39):
that lends to the to a theory, it builds on
that theory. Not only is it proof that because like
I'm sure Maria doesn't sit down and read books on
timeline theories to just make this crap up. Okay, I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
No, in all honesty, like and I said multiple times,
I'll say twe thousand more. If you would have asked
me a month ago about time travel and timelines and
time loops and glitches and the matrix, I would have
laughed myself at you, because I just science fiction. It's
Jules Vern, it's HP Lovecraft type stuff. It's just it's

(01:07:24):
a bunch of hoopla, you know. And through this, I
feel like this has kind of explained my mind in
so many ways because people started telling me about you know,
you know, time isn't linear, and then I've heard what
quantum immortality lay lines, I've heard all of this crazy stuffcerns.

(01:07:45):
And I immediately went down this insane rabbit hole for
like four days, and I had like twenty rabbit holes
open at this point, going this is this is insane.
And then more and more people are coming to me going, hey,
I had a similar story. This happened to me. This
happened to me, And then I had and I I

(01:08:09):
have an amazing mod her her name's Constantine. She did
some crazy research as far as like environmental, like planetary
universal type stuff, and the parallels between the eighty four
and two thousand and seven are they're insane. I mean

(01:08:30):
absolutely insane. You know, we don't have, you know, the
exact date of when this event happened for John Doe, right,
so we just kind of go, Okay, let's just say
it happened on August twelfth, nineteen eighty four. Well, August twelfth,
nine eighty four, August twelfth, two thousand and seven. One

(01:08:50):
was a full moon, one was a new moon, one
had a planetary alignment, one had a meteor shower, there
was a stern going on eighty four, there was a
certain going on in two thousand and seven. And on
top of all of that, she also discovered that there
were no lay lines that ran through Valdostan Tifton, but
there are three lay lines that for me, triangle around

(01:09:15):
that area, you know, And so I've all the people
telling me all these things have happened that similarly similarly
in that area, all this stuff happened on these days.
I mean, you can't tell me at this point that
there's not something going on down there. Yeah, I just
I'm a firm believer. Now I'm a firm believer now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Right. Pam brought up a really good point about the
reason why they removed the gas lines of the tanks
and all that is too, so that it doesn't seep
into the groundwater. Makes perfect sense. I don't know why
I didn't think about that. I want to go back

(01:10:01):
to If I can get it to May, I'll be
able to get to that. Here's there was. Pam also
raised another question that's very interesting. Would this be near
the thirty third parallel? Okay, so you know what, Pam,

(01:10:26):
I'm not really I think it's below the thirty third parallel.
I could be wrong. I need to go back and
pinpoint it. But it's much of the Southern States are
close enough to the thirty third parallel that it is.

(01:10:48):
They still get the resisual effect, if that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
So I have to ask you, though, what is the
thirty third parallel. I've never heard of that before.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
So you follow this, follow follow me, and follow the
eye of Jupiter. You'll be hearing about the thirty third
parallel a lot kind of The thirty third parallel is
a a place on the planet that goes all the

(01:11:21):
way around the planet. Okay, all of these parallels, all
of these parallels, you know, there's several of them. They
all go in sequential order. The thirty third parallel in particular,
runs through the like Texas, Mississippi, Tennessee. It goes all

(01:11:44):
the way round. Actually it even lines up with it
goes through Israel and several other places too. The thirty
third is really known for being a place that a

(01:12:06):
very strange things happen. There's a lot of stuff. There's
a lot of theories, like you could you want to
go down a rabbit hole. Just start working on the
thirty third, girl, You'll find all kinds of craziness, Like.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Okay, I look at that now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:22):
Disney World or Disney Disney and Florida supposedly has some
connection to it. I mean, all kinds of things, all
kinds of things.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:12:35):
The there's a lot of stuff that you can find
about the thirty third, And honestly, I am nowhere near
even scratching the surface on my research on it. Like,
oh wow, I've got a stack of books piled up
on my again again already, guys, on my left side,

(01:12:59):
I got a stack of books piled up again that
I need to be rating, But yeah, there's there's a
lot of craziness, a lot of high strangeness around like
all of the South in a lot of ways because
of that. Now, let me throw you guys an another

(01:13:20):
piece of information. If you're familiar with UFO flaps, these
dates may trigger a response from you. Valdusta Times is

(01:13:42):
one of the places I got these dates from. So
July the seventh, nineteen forty nine, July the nineteenth, nineteen
forty nine, UFO settings in Valdosta area, July the twenty fourth,
nineteen fifty two, November the thirtieth, nineteen fifty four. So

(01:14:08):
these were like time periods that nationally there was a
lot of UFI activity during those times. It's very interesting
that for Valdusta, and I hope i'm saying that right
for that low town itself two different years. The reports

(01:14:31):
that I found for that area all happened in July
years apart nineteen forty nine and nineteen fifty two, and
two of them happened in July of nineteen forty nine.
So there was also UFO activity in years prior to

(01:14:53):
that that was reported. Now we don't know what was
not reported. There's a problem right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:00):
Yeah. Another thing too that that that was was kind
of brought to my attention to and that was with
the rabbit hole I went down, is there are a
lot of disappearances down there, and people disappeared without a trace,
no cars left behind, like completely just like vanished and
they never even existed. So that also kind of has

(01:15:21):
me questioned things that are going on in there, you
know what I mean. It's a very strange area, right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
And see that's the thing. My mods are all going
road trip. Oh my god, y'all have fun because I've
got my plate is full right now. I'm going out
of town Saturday for a few hours with Cinrador Hill.

(01:15:51):
We're doing a ghost a ghost thing girl. This year,
I'm I'm chasing ghost and bigfoot all over the place.
I've got a couple of bigfoot, a couple of cryptid
events going on. One of them is coming up in

(01:16:12):
uh May third in Talents in Tennessee. Uh that's another thing.
You want to have some crazy experiences, just come up
here and go to East Tennessee or the l b L.

Speaker 4 (01:16:26):
I heard, I heard, Yeah, I know. If you're talking
about speaking boog foot much, I'm thinking about it. I
need to check out the Bigfoot Museum and Cherry Log
in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
How did I know there was one there?

Speaker 4 (01:16:39):
Cherry Log cherry Log, Georgia. It's it's right south of
Blue Ridge, and that's it's a pretty cool museum. It's
it's called it's the big Foot Expedition, and it's a big,
big museum. And they've got all kinds of really interesting
stuff in there. They've even got stuff connected to Jenny
Stewart in there.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Wow, it's really interesting, you guys, another reason to watch
to watch my stuff. You learn things all the time
on here. Okay, so here, So here's another thing that
that you pointed out then that is very interesting about
the area. The fact that there's the lay lines are

(01:17:25):
uh form a triangle around the area, which is a
key thing too, and that there have been a number
of disappearances in that area. Now, this is not uncommon, guys,
to a point, especially in parts of rural areas. It's

(01:17:48):
not as uncommon as we think of. Here's the situation though,
when you get why that why I find that to
be a possible key factor here is because in this
area we've had multiple reports of time laps, time time

(01:18:09):
issues going on. Okay, the time slips have had had
multiple reports, some of them like actually dealing with the
same store possibly. Okay, so there's a key factor there.
What's going on with the store, What's going on with
the guy that was working the store? Why is it

(01:18:35):
so important this little tiny store in the middle of nowhere?
Why why have there been more than one report of
strange occurrences around that? Okay, there's UFO have activity in
the area. Now, let me tell you on something else.

(01:18:57):
If you're not from the South, you're not going to
understand this. But a lot of people from the South
will experience things. They're not going to go telling the newspaper.
They're not going to go tell They're not even going
to tell their neighbors. They're going to keep it shut
and they're going to keep it to themselves, maybe some
family members. Because here's the thing of it, folks in

(01:19:20):
the South, we're not stupid, Okay. We know what people
start saying and thinking whenever we talk about this crazy stuff. Okay,
Like you don't you don't you think you think you

(01:19:40):
see something weird in your yard? You don't talk about it?

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
You know you think you see it? No, you don't
think you hurt it. No, you don't.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
M Nope, you really don't. And and part of the
reason for that is because you know, you do have
a lot of skeptics. You do have a lot of
people like, yeah, I tell you my Southern brothers out here,
y'all can be some of the most skeptical folks I've
ever heard in my life. You're either really open minded

(01:20:11):
or you're really skeptical. There is seems to be knowing. So,
you know, you go home and you tell your you're
a woman, you go home and tell your husband, you know,
I saw you know some stuff today that's not adding up,
and he's gonna be like, woman, what were you smoking?

(01:20:32):
Because that's the Because it's just that's the way it is.
So people in the South don't go run in their
mouth like other people do. Okay, I will tell you that.
So the culture here is a little different. So when
I say that this is what been reported in the newspaper,
these are the folks that were like, and I tell

(01:20:53):
somebody this stuff, I ain't gonna believe it now they're
not gonna believe it. But you told them, and that's
documented now. But there's no telling how many people may
have experienced what Maria's experienced, and other people have experienced
in that same area and just never said anything about

(01:21:14):
it because we ain't talking about this mess, right, So
this is something to keep in mind, the amount of experience.
I mean, Maria, how long did it take you toe
actually told somebody this publicly?

Speaker 4 (01:21:28):
Twenty years? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
Yeah, think about that for a minute. Okay, she's been
setting on this story. She's told her family, and she
told her husband, but we're going to keep it in
it buying closed doors in the house. And then she
finally decides to write this letter. And now, some days
I'll bet you go, what was I doing when I

(01:21:53):
wrote that Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:21:55):
Because well she actually asked me, She goes, do you
want this? I thought, no, you to your mind, my
own fare. I mean, whatever you know in that way, somebody,
if somebody has an answer, or maybe there's the gas
stations that they could get hold of me. She's like, okay,
and trust me. Like especially with that first week, like
I was, there was moments like and I feel so stupid,

(01:22:16):
but like I broke down on the live. I was
so overwhelmed and I started crying and I was thinking,
like I should just stay I should have stayed anonymous.
I just should have stayed anonymous and loved it at that.
But then I get people who who have shared their stories.
They have been like, thank you for giving us a
safe space and the courage to share our stories, you know,

(01:22:40):
so we don't think we're crazy, and people don't think
we're crazy, you know. And then I go, it was
worth it. It was worth It was worth the pain and
the frustration and the overwhelming feelings I was going through.
If it helped one person, it was worth it was
worth the stead going public with it, right.

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
And see here here's so here's another piece of the
puzzle to put into all this. The naysayers that want
to like try to say that whatever's going on here
is not going on here. Like, first of all, there's

(01:23:20):
the extreme hesitance to go public with this for twenty years. Okay,
her husband's been on like he's set there when she's
been doing live before, you know, and is involved with
her actively. It's not like he's one of those guys

(01:23:41):
who comes home and goes to bed and you know,
the wife and the kids are just there. That's not
the way he plays his game. I've seen enough to
know that he is actively engaged with his family. So
I say that to say this, like you got you

(01:24:01):
got dabas ask him he knows this woman, he's he's
heard the story, he's heard seen her responses like you
catch yourm on camera. I'm sure he'll be glad to
tell you, Hey, whatever is going on here she's reacting.

Speaker 4 (01:24:20):
Yeah, and even my kids would too. I'm like, you know,
me and Jimmy moving together for eight years, you know,
And but you know, even my kids could tell you, yeah,
like I remember mom telling us this story, you know.
And I remember the first time I even told Jeremy.
We were driving back from Florida. We'd gone on the cruise.

(01:24:41):
We're driving back from Florida and he says he. I
was like, He's like, I was telling you since bothering
you because you get real quiet. All of a sudden,
he's like binding your lip and your nail. And I'm like, okay,
And he said I got that. He is what's going on?
What's wrong? But what are you sensing? And I was like,
not worry about it. And he's like, no, no, no, no,
tell me. And I told I told him that first story.

(01:25:01):
It was probably six months after we started dating. I
told him that story for the very first time on
that on seventy five North going through Tifted in vald Alto,
you know, and I was like, I was looking for
the exit. He's skill like, okay, you know, so he's
he's heard the story first eight years, right, that's right. Whatever.

(01:25:24):
My oldest my oldest son is twenty two, you know.
I mean, they they've all they've all got up hearing
the story.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
And that's another key factor that's really important to understand,
Like if you're researching or you're you're investigating something, pay
attention to how these guys are acting and reacting to things,
their choice of wording a lot of things, because like

(01:25:54):
the final straw with me, that said, Maria is like
seriously telling how it went, like this is whether my
mind wants to accept the story or not. You know,
it's real, you know, and when you first hear it,
the first thing you think of is what am I hearing?

(01:26:18):
And I get it? I get it. There's this there's
this kind of is she really saying this kind of
thing going on? Because when you first when you're first
hearing some of the details, it kind of makes you wonder,
are you hearing right? Are you thinking right? Did you
get enough of water today? Did I sleep enough?

Speaker 4 (01:26:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:26:39):
I mean it makes the listener a little crazy at
first trying to take in all the details. But then
when you start exploring and you start trying to say, Okay,
is she just another one of these people trying to
collect some some clout or is she telling the truth? Like,
when you start putting all the evidence together, it's really

(01:27:02):
hard for me to say anything other than this really happened.
I mean, like, because y'all know how I am as
an investigator. I'll either put something in a cold case
a warm case, or dismiss it all together. It's you know,

(01:27:24):
I like to have my categories. There's no way to
dismiss this story. There's no way to put this in
in the I'm done with it, Bobs. It's just not
because I mean, it's it's definitely worth investigating. It's worth
investigating not only Maria's story, but other stories, especially in

(01:27:48):
this section, this little area that we're talking about here,
the history of it, and a lot of other things,
because I feel like this is just win piece of
the puzzle.

Speaker 4 (01:28:03):
Yeah, and that there's definitely there's definitely something I'm going
on down there, you know. And besides, they think I've
mentioned before, you know, there's apparently there's air Force base
down there. It was Moody Air Force Base. So you've got, okay,
what are they doing in Moody Air Force Base? You know?

(01:28:24):
And I feel like, you know, and talking about this
and talking to people about their experiences and all these
rabbit holes that I've gone down. You know, I do
feel like with everything that kind of happened, I feel
like we were it was one of those moments where
it was a perfect storm of everything kind of happening

(01:28:45):
and merging all at once. You know, you also have
to think about it. We were a very emotionally heightened
state of mind at that point. You know. We were
coming back from a funeral from somebody who we loved
very very dearly. We were very very close to, you know.
And that's five people in this little car, you know,
and there's a lot and I also think about it,

(01:29:08):
but you know, John Doe's dad. We kind of we
started calling him daddy though, to kind of give him
his own personality. So you know, look at what he
was a Vietnam veteran, So you know, there's PTSD. There
he was a drug addict and an alcoholic. I'm sure
he was dealing with all kinds of emotional things as well,
so he very well could have been in a heightened

(01:29:29):
emotional state at the same time, you know, And I
feel like it was it was a perfect storm of
just things kind of happening, and you know, it was
a right place, right time kind of situation. Yeah, that's
the only logical way that I can explain it to myself.

(01:29:51):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:29:52):
Well, and now you've opened up a whole new new
thing that I wanted to get into, which I'm it
is so cool how you're like stepping in and like
right when you say something, I'm like, this is the
next thing I was going to bring up. So let's
talk about trying to view things from his perspective, from

(01:30:13):
from from Daddy Doe's perspective. I love the way you
guys like penned that that's cool. So let's let's let's
be him in nineteen eighty four for a second. Okay,
So he had he had been through the ward, he

(01:30:33):
had some issues with substance abuse, and so forth. I
have a brother who or had a brother who, you know,
my eldest brother was in I believe he served Vietnam.
I believe that was you know, well it would have

(01:30:54):
been Vietnam. He was schizophrenic. After he got back by
literally called one of my brothers and said, hey, you
need to come get your brother out from underneath the
bridge where he's been living for a few months now.
And he was literally bad shit crazy. Whenever they marry him.

Speaker 4 (01:31:14):
My my my dad, he was Air Force, uh came,
I need to MP and he had severe s uh
PTSD and within my mom hadn't been dating for like
a week. Their their their lady. She was a whirlwind
and I I mean I remember her calling me over

(01:31:34):
one night because he was using steel wool and bleach
and trying to get the blood off his hands. You know.
I I've seen firsthand and taken him to the v A.
All these other Vietnam vetterans who have they'll have flashbacks
to the drop of a hat, you know, And it's
it's heartbreaking what those men went through. And they never

(01:31:56):
received the the health, the mental health care that they
just needed until a lot of times, and it was
too late for right.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Right. So there's a lot of there's a lot of
historical damage there already. But now let's let's bring something
else in, Okay. So he went home that night, he
told his family what he saw, his wife's, well, his

(01:32:26):
whole family at that point. Their response was okay. So
he slipped off the bat the wagon again. You know,
his wife took the kids and left him another very
traumatic experience. So on Maria's side, you've you've got grief,
You've got like being around, you know, the family that

(01:32:51):
she hasn't seen in a while. She's with her brothers
and sisters, they're all they all feel in a certain
way about a lot of stuff that they just taken in.
You've got this guy who in his timeline was already
messed up emotionally and mentally because of trauma, past traumas.

(01:33:14):
But this event was significant in his life because he
literally lost everything that day because of this event. So
this would have been something that at his passing would
have been a key factor in his memories, you know,

(01:33:35):
and was a key factor in his memories all the
way up to the day he passed. So why why
why it was emotionally charging on both sides. So, if
time is not linear, if time is actually all encompassing,

(01:33:55):
and happening all at once. The trauma that he went
through that day, his future trauma from that would have
been in action at that time too. I realized, it's
not going to make sense until you think about it.
But if you think about time as doing this, okay,
instead of doing this, then you're gonna you're gonna realize

(01:34:22):
that they were goos instead of yeah, exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:34:30):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
So there was a lot of trauma on both sides
that day, Maria. You've already mentioned some of the celestial
events that had happened and other things that had happened
in the in those areas in this in those years.
You know, I know a lot of people that are

(01:34:53):
opposed to talking about the WU factor, not going to
like want to think about these astrological parts of it.
But I mean those of you that are open to it,
think about this for a moment. You know, the astrology
plays a part in this too, so, you know, and
the energy in both timelines around all the things, all

(01:35:20):
the things can be very important to take in. I
want to go back to this comment for a second.
I wonder since he passed in two thousand and one,

(01:35:43):
and it happened in two thousand and seven am Arius
Tima did the effect how he saw them? Did it
effectue like somewhat in the veil? You know? Here, this
is what I'm saying is that, Yeah, this is how
I'm feeling it too, is that his perspective in things

(01:36:09):
may have been affected by all of those things. It's
really hard because the key word here is goes to
pose to people, right, You know, how you tell somebody
something is how you perceive it. You know, Maria has
talked about the dated all the things that dated this place,

(01:36:36):
you know, the the fonts, the packaging of the of
the products. Didn't you say there were no very little
or no plastic containers in the story at all.

Speaker 4 (01:36:49):
I don't remember. I don't remember. I remember seeing like
what was in front of me and thinking, oh, this
kind of looks weird. It was dead to you, gross
not going to touch it. And I do remember above
the coolers there was an old vintage coke sign, but
I don't remember specifics like if it was plastic or
glass or or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
Constantine you brought that. Yeah, you've brought up some really
good stuff tonight with this. I appreciate you being in here,
all of you guys are doing a really good job
with processing this. I know I can hear wheels turning. Sin.
I know you you're probably like trying to digest all
of this. I gotta tell you, like when it comes

(01:37:41):
to the energy, and this is one. When I first
heard this, the first thing I thought of Yet, uh huh,
I'm not surprised. I love you. Sin is like centrator
Hill is one of the locals here. She and I
actually are going out to do something this weekend together,

(01:38:01):
like we both kind of process things the same way,
sometimes trying to chew it all at once.

Speaker 8 (01:38:09):
The the manifestation was the first thing that came to
my mind when I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
Your story was was you were manifesting on your end
because you had to go, which is a common factor
with a lot of these stories, which is very interesting.
People are are driving, they're urgently needing to go to
the bathroom.

Speaker 4 (01:38:40):
Yeah, it's not just the bathroom. It's just it seems
like they have an urgent need of self sort like
somewhat like one story that we share with me is
they were down to like an eighth of a tank
of gas and they really reading gas. So it's it's
not it seems like they're like, the biggest point for
me is that there's an urgent need of some sort

(01:39:01):
for some faith. But you know, you know, as far
as the manifestation goes, that kind of brings me back
to what somebody else had kind of mentioned maybe kind
of go hmm, okay, that's interesting. Was because literally it
was it hit me so hard, so fast, like out

(01:39:23):
of the blue, like it hit me, I got a
pee like I got a pee out that maybe what
was happening was my brain wasn't registering what was happening.
Everything just seemed normal, but my body felt it in
a different way. And that's how my body, I guess, presented,
Hey there's something strange going on. But the event happened

(01:39:43):
before I even got to the exit, and that's what
it actually started. So I thought that was an interesting theory.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
It is. It is very interesting. I'm glad you brought
that up because it's very possible. It's very possible they
could have been starting to because one of the things
that I've heard, you know, is sensations that people start
getting the feeling of heaviness. Some people start feeling dread
or they feel, you know, something in the air.

Speaker 4 (01:40:18):
Yeah, I definitely felt that sense of dread and heaviness
and just not feeling right and inside the gas station
for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Right. And see that's the thing of it's like as
like I remember, like watching one person's account that they
were giving and they said before as they were walking
into the spot, they felt a very a very deep
heaviness and it was like they could feel the transition.

(01:40:51):
Was basically a good way of putting it without going
into all the detail because one of the things I
I don't want to do is like give details for
too many details from other stories for two plant in
people's heads. And there's reasons why I do that. There's
reasons why, Yeah, because you don't want people to get

(01:41:15):
false memories later and say oh yeah, And having the
background that I have in religious cults and other things,
I understand how false memories can be generated. But people
talking things up, so I try to be really careful

(01:41:39):
about those things. So here's the thing, guys, I want
Maria to share this story because first of all, it's
just a crazy good story example of time slip. It
has unique qualities to it that we have to investigate,

(01:41:59):
that we need to be aware of. Uh, there's things
that we haven't even gone into tonight that I really
want to bring you back and talk about at another
time if you will.

Speaker 4 (01:42:12):
Oh yeah, definitely tell me, tell me the place and time.

Speaker 3 (01:42:17):
Right, because here's here's the thing of it. One of
the things I like to do was with things sometimes
is get is to go deeper. So we didn't even
touch on, you know, the possibility of how this may
have altered current time. We in touch on the possibilities of,

(01:42:42):
you know, the idea of you know, what happened like
immediately after that with the people involved, because I'm sure
there are things that that we can dig into there
and find out all kinds of details. There's a lot

(01:43:03):
of details in the aftermath of this that I really
want to dig into at some point and with you
on because I feel like for those of us that
want to investigate this and really want to research this,
finding out all finding out the post era stuff, the

(01:43:27):
post event things is really important too. And I know
you haven't really talked about those things as much with
people because most everybody's just wanting to hear the story. Yeah,
you know, but there's a human element to it too,
you know, And I think I think we need to

(01:43:49):
go at another another point soon and investigate the human
element a little bit and the post story time because
I think that well, yeah, because here's the thing of it.
It's like you may start remembering things in the next
few days or so or a week or so that

(01:44:11):
you're not even remembering now about things that happen after
that that you know, we don't know, Yeah, we don't know,
because this is this has only been going on, what
a week or two?

Speaker 4 (01:44:24):
No, we're going almost a month now.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:44:27):
The first email we got from John Doe was I
believe I've got the email right here. I can tell
you to day. It was March sixth or yeah, March sixteenth.

Speaker 3 (01:44:45):
Okay, so we are we are almost on that month.

Speaker 4 (01:44:48):
Yeah, almost a month. That flows your mind. Yeah, this
literally has like consumed my life in the past month.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
The the thing that's really important to know about that though,
for you and for them, is so much has gone
on since this actually broke that you haven't had a
lot of time to process at times, like there were
nights when you were in alive, you know, almost all

(01:45:22):
week long.

Speaker 4 (01:45:24):
Yeah. Literally, I have been going live every single night
since then, and like today I go to the I've
always got in the mornings to do. I do my
art in the mornings normally, and so I have like
one or two people in there. I'm like, okay, how
you doing. They go wait, I just kept alive on
do my art, and now I have like twenty thirty

(01:45:45):
people in the morning because I'm going and I feel
that I look like I'm ignoring them, and I took
my art to this art or whatever. But like today,
I was just like, you know what, I'm going to
take a break today, and it was actually really nice.
I got my living room swept and bopped up really good.
I got all the dishes done, I got all the
counters wiped up. So I was like, Okay, I actually

(01:46:06):
feel productively. I got two loads of laundry down, you know,
so I feel more productive. But yeah, like this like
the past, since all this kind of happened, it's just
I've put on like one two o'clock in the morning
some nights on the line, and I'm just like, okay,
I've got to bed. I've got to be up in
like five hours to get the short one to bed,
you know, to school in the morning. So you know,

(01:46:27):
it's been it's been crazy. It's been very, very crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:46:31):
And I know there was one night I was in
the Live with You and some other people and poor
forgot hope you don't even get sleep anymore. His world
is like no.

Speaker 4 (01:46:45):
Well, it's also because like by the time he gets home,
it's dinner time and then it's okay, I get little
one in bath, and he's like, I want to spend
a little bit of time with my family, and so yes,
we we'll get through it'clock in the morning. So for
him to even get eight hours of sleep, he's start
up being bed like at seven o'clock in the night,

(01:47:07):
you know, and Maggie doesn't go to bed until seven thirty.
So and then he ends up getting got stuck at wind.
The next thing he knows, it's eleven o'clock at night
and he's just going to bed, like last night. I
don't think he went to bend like eleven thirty last night.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
So I was, yeah, oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:47:23):
So he's like he's like, he guy came home days,
I'm so tired, and he was in bed by eight
o'clock to night. So that's a very that's a rarity
right there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Yeah. I can tell you guys like on a like
a close and personal like with my job. Today's a
good example. I wound up, you know, I had to
stay and I was in Knoxville. I had to stay
in Knocksville longer than I was planning on because I
got off work last night and my check engine light
came on. I was gonna leave straight from work and

(01:47:54):
drive the four hours back home. I was actually past
knocks well over and jumped forward and I was like, no,
I'm going to I'm gonna napt for a little bit
that I'm going to get up and go take my
car have it checked out. Thank god, it was just
a dirty censor. Oh thank god. You know. So I
was like able to drive home, but I so I

(01:48:16):
did that. I got home at one something. I was like, okay,
I touched base with a couple of people, you know,
I got to get touch base with my folks, you know,
And I touched base with a couple of people before
I laid down. I laid down. I got like woke

(01:48:38):
up at seven o'clock and it's like all week long,
like there was construction going on in this building too
this week. So all week long, I've been in that
kind of sleep deprivation month. So I can tell you now, guys,
it's no joke when you like when you when you're
trying to like get those you work like crazy hours

(01:48:59):
and you're trying to get the disease. Like I feel
for him because I know I know from personal point,
so you know, the aftermath is affected. You know that
the family life has affected a lot of things, and
so it will be interesting two see how things as

(01:49:23):
this progresses, what may come up, what memories may trigger
of things in the post experience time you may have
happened that would maybe not have happened if this experience
would not have happened, if that makes sense, Like there

(01:49:45):
were there changes in your reality based on this Obviously
there were perception wise you had some things going on
there because you know, did I really see that it
was this real, you know like kind of thing? Oh yeah, yeah,
but you know, was the timelines altered? Were there other

(01:50:06):
things that may have happened that you know that as
you start to process more and more, you go, oh shit,
this happened. Was that because of the experience? You know?

Speaker 4 (01:50:20):
So definitely I've definitely I've actually been asked a question
similar to that, and I have there's a period that
I always call the series of unfortunate events that happened
probably about four to five months after that, and I

(01:50:40):
since that I was asked that question, I've been kind
of wondering, like, was that the result anything to do
with it? Because it was it was it was a
lot of bad stuff happened, like boom boom, boom, boom boom.
So I've always kind of I've started that kind of
question that since that question was actually brought up to me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:58):
Yeah, So I mean, these are these are things we'll
explore in it the next time we have a conversation.
I definitely feel like that's a thing that needs to happen,
is for us to explore the the other side of this.

(01:51:18):
I tell you, first of all, thank you for coming
on again. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I cannot
thank you enough for sharing the story with with our folks. Hopefully,
you know, in sharing it it becomes a little more, uh,
it becomes more therapeutic for you each time, because I

(01:51:39):
know it's really important to kind of how do you,
like I asked myself all the time after an experience,
you know, how do I normalize this for my life?

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
And I think that's really important how hopefully that will
doing these these podcasts, all the staring podcasters knocking on
everybody's door, you know, if you know, if anything, hopefully
hopefully doing these podcasts and processing through those ways will

(01:52:19):
help out some too. What what are your final thoughts
tonight on before we before we wrap this up?

Speaker 4 (01:52:33):
My final thoughts, I think, with as much as I've
come to piece a lot of it, I think I'm
always going to have questions that I think I'm always
going to be searching for. But I think it's just
me trying to come up with a healthier way to
try to process it all where it doesn't feel like

(01:52:55):
it's so consume me. I feel, I really do like
that is what it is. It has been consuming because
before this, I mean I would think about it like
a certain song would play. I think about it was
a song that was playing on the radio, or if
like I've been coming home from Florida, I would i
would look for the exit and I'd have a dream

(01:53:16):
about it once or maybe twice a year, But it
was never like in the forefront of my mind constantly.
And I feel like it's just been in my mind
constantly since all of this started. So I think it's
just it's just you know, trying to find a healthier
way to kind of process it and things from what
they are, you know what I.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Mean, definitely, definitely constantly. Before we wrap it up, I
want you to if you're on Facebook, look me up.
I want to connect, get that connection with with you. You
have some really good insight. I can tell you you've
got a good a good way of thinking and processing stuff.

(01:53:56):
I like that, So keep in touch.

Speaker 4 (01:54:00):
Constantine is awesome. I will tell you that she's amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
So you know, you know Constantine, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:54:06):
The constant that gave me all the planetary informations. That's her.

Speaker 3 (01:54:11):
She's amazing, absolutely, one hundred percent amazing. Like I'm like
over here going I don't know you, but I need
to know you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:54:21):
She's one of my mids, and like we text all
the time, so we've become pretty good friends.

Speaker 3 (01:54:26):
Oh yeah, see now now you okay? Good? Yeah? Because
I love I love a good brain. I love a
good brain somebody who's actually.

Speaker 4 (01:54:36):
A great brain. A great brain. She thought things I
didn't even think of, So.

Speaker 3 (01:54:45):
I fan possibly. Here's the thing though, because I deal
with I deal with like some low key, low primitive
people some days, okay, in my job, so when I
get to I get off work and I get to
deal with people that actually think it's good. It's good, Maria.

(01:55:08):
I'm gonna like, I'm gonna go in and wrap it up.
I'm going to pull you back. If you need to go,
that's good too, if you If if not, if you
want to hang out for a moment when I close
out the show, we can touch base for a moment,
then that's good too. Awesome, all right, good deal, Thank

(01:55:30):
you again.

Speaker 4 (01:55:31):
You're welcome. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 3 (01:55:37):
All Right, guys, this is the story that I was
talking about for over a week, and now you've heard it.
I'm telling you what I'm wrong. I'm not wrong about
this at all. Right, this is like, this is an
event worth investigating, is an event worth exploring and research

(01:56:00):
and finding out all the answers we can find out,
Like any other event that's crossed my desk. I gotta
tell you, I've got a stack of books on that.
Am I wishless now for time slips. I want to

(01:56:22):
dig into this research. If you watched all the way
through to this point tonight, do not forget to like,
share and comment, here's a question for you. What do
you think time slips are really about? Do you think
time is linear? Do you think that time is all things?
All time periods happening at once puts your thoughts on time?

(01:56:47):
And do you believe that time slips cannot only just happen,
but they alter the current time that we're in. There's
something to talk about in the comments. Again. Remember Magical

(01:57:12):
Journey dot com. I'm on Facebook and your Magical Journey
and we also have the Magical Journey group on Facebook.
It's really important to do those things. It's even more
important to check out my patreon because there is always
things that are that's not going to be placed on

(01:57:33):
my Patreon, like photos and so forth. Some updates. I
may actually get around to finishing an article or two
here soon to post on there, So my patreon get
in touch with it please and thank you all right,

(01:57:55):
I love you guys, Thank you all for coming on tonight.
And remember and your journey always be magical.

Speaker 5 (01:58:13):
Waiting for so long to see when you come back
to me through the walls and battles that were lost,
we're all again. It's you and me. The rest is history.

(01:58:51):
You've danced together. Fifteen hundreds to dance, we must stand
the rowing. We must stable something that

Speaker 1 (01:59:04):
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