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July 10, 2025 73 mins
In this energetic and entertaining episode of the Magickal Journey Podcast, I’m joined by Tommy Cullum, the host of the hit show Let’s Get Freaky Podcast — where the paranormal, the bizarre, and the unexplained take center stage. Tommy brings a perfect mix of humor, insight, and curiosity to the strange and supernatural. We dive into his favorite paranormal encounters, weird listener stories, and what it’s like to run a podcast that doesn’t shy away from the freaky side of life. Whether it's ghosts, UFOs, cryptids, or just plain weirdness, Tommy approaches every topic with an open mind and a contagious sense of fun. If you love your paranormal with a side of personality, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
I am never anyone the world. Oh no, no, I'm
problem my not Mann.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
And hello everybody. Welcome back to Magical Journey Podcast. I
am your host, Daniel Ian Kahun And as you notice,
I'm still using the old the old countdown and intro
for right now, but that will be going away soon.
We have begun the journey to the new, brand new. Yeah.

(02:46):
So before we get started tonight, first of all, guys,
pay attention to the screen for a moment. I want
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(03:08):
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(03:33):
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(03:56):
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(04:22):
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(04:43):
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find all of the podcast, audio and visual on that
website as well, So please go over and check it out.
And that's pretty much all I'm going to give you

(05:04):
guys for right now, because I have a guest on
tonight that I really want to I want to welcome
to the stage. I want to hear a bit of
info from ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to the stage. Tommy calm, Hey, Tommy,
hell you, sir. You know what, for some reason, I'm

(05:28):
my tongue in my brain are having a fight today.
How are you?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It happens to me every day, man, I know that feeling.
So I'm with your brother, I'm with you. I'm excited
to be here, man, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
I am excited for you to be here. I don't
know if you guys hear interference or not.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
I'm hearing it in my in my, I can't hear anything.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Now it's better, Okay, I don't know what's going on.
It's like every once in a while, this room is
a little difficult on things. So Tommy, tell us a
little bit about you and your podcast and any anything
you want to promote out before it gets started.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah. So I'm Tommy from this Get Freaky podcast, a
show that dives into all aspects of the paranormal, ghosts, cryptids, UFOs,
a little bit of conspiracy as well. I normally have
a guest on that comes on and shares their experiences
and their thoughts on high strangeness and the moment. It's
normally two episodes a week, sometimes free, and we're wherever

(06:37):
you listen to podcasts. You can find us Apple Podcasts, Spotify,
and we're also on YouTube now as well, so you
can find us on YouTube as well. And yeah, man, love,
I love talking paranormal, hearing people's experiences and you know,
sharing my own experiences and learning and trying to work
out what's going on in this crazy world that we.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Live in, right because there is so so very much.
So let's step back for a moment and let's talk
about some of some of the things that you have experienced.

Speaker 3 (07:16):
There's been a few, there's been a few things. I've
had quite a lot of paranormal experience. I've never used
to see myself as someone that had a lot. I
felt everyone experienced this stuff, you know. That's what I've
always thought, that it's kind of normal, but it's it's
to most people. I think most people do experience paranormal
to some extent. Some people seem to be able to
switch it off, and then others experience a lot of stuff.

(07:39):
And for me, I think that's just if you're open
to this kind of thing, you're going to experience stuff.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You know.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
I kind of say, I didn't make this saying. I
don't think, but if you look into the paranormal, it
looks back. I really do believe that. I really do
believe that that happens. But my journey with a paranormal
starts from day one.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Really.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
You know, since I was a little kid, I was
always one of those weird kids, you know, that was
always scared of the dark. You know, I still am
scared of the dark, to be honest, I always felt
like there was something there, always got that feeling that
I was being watched. You know, monsters in the dark.
I was a terrible sleeper and it just begun from

(08:18):
a very young age, and I grew up in what
I would say was a haunted house, very strange activity.
The whole family used to feel it, and we didn't
really talk about it when we were younger. It wasn't
really until we left the house. I remember my dad
turning around and saying to all of us, I'm glad
we got out of there. You know. It was yeah,

(08:40):
but I mean, it wasn't always bad in the house.
It wasn't always negative, but there was certainly times where
it was negative. But your typical stuff, you know, things
used to go missing. You used to hear people walking
around when everyone was in bed at night and there
was no one up, but you'd hear someone walking around.
I always felt like there was something in my room.
AWAYS always got that feeling since I can remember. But

(09:04):
my first kind of big experience which really stands out,
which really sort of was the moment that I was like,
you know, this stuff is real. I was around ten
years old. Me and my brother shared a room at
the time and we had bunk beds now as I
saund I was one of those kids that was always
scared of the dark, so I would since I can remember,

(09:24):
I used to used to get up through the night,
and if I woke up during the night, I was
getting in bed with my mom and dad. You know,
I was straight in bed in my mom and I
was one of those kids. And even even up to
like ten, I was still still like that. I would
wake up, I get scared, you know, and I'd get
in bed to my mom and dad, and I guess
at this time they'd had enough of this, you know,
they were trying to stop me from doing this. And

(09:47):
this particular night, I've woken up during the night and
all the lights were off in the house. Our room
was fairly lit up because there was lights coming from
the street lights outside, so they were coming in you
could you could see the layout of the room. And
I just remember I woke up and I've looked down
in my bedroom and in the corner of my room,

(10:07):
me and my brother had a desk, and there was
a man sitting there at the desk, a full bodied apparition, entity, spirit,
whatever it was, sitting there at my desk, and I
was just terrified, you know, I've screamed for my mum,
And I'm not thinking at this time only I wasn't

(10:27):
thinking ghosts, you know, I was just thinking, there's a
man in my room. There was There was a man
just sitting there in my room, and he was kind
of just sort of sitting there with his head in
his fist, looking up in sort of my direction. But
he didn't move, like he wasn't moving, his face didn't change.
But I could see him very clearly, like I could see,
I could see what he was wearing, had like a

(10:48):
brown suit on. He had like a little brown beard,
like long brown hair. And I always say, whenever I
tell this experience that he looked like William Shakespeare. That
was the kind of look that whenever I see a
picture of William Shakespeare now it takes me back to that.
But I don't think it was William Shakespeare. I just
I just think this whatever I was seeing seemed to

(11:08):
be from that era. I would say, And my mom's
come in the room because I'm shouting, and she can't
see this guy. But I can still see him. He's
not disappeared, he's not moved. He's still there exactly how
I could see him before. And my Mom's gone up
to the corner of my room because I'm pointing, saying
there's a man. There's a man, And she's kind of

(11:29):
gone up to the where the man was. I don't
know if she's gone through him or anything like that.
I couldn't see, but she came back quite angry, my
mum and saying, there's no one there. You need to
calm down. You're staying in your bed. And when she'll
hear this'll she'll watch this, and she'll hear this, and
she'll apologize to me. I say every time, every time
I talk about this, she brings me up and says,

(11:50):
I'm sorry again. And I'm like, you don't have to
say sorry, and and my mum is okay, it's okay.
But so I went under my covers. My mom left
the room. I just remember I was I was crying,
I was sweating. I was a mess, and I just
kept looking at this dude. And he didn't didn't he
was still there. He was there all night. He didn't disappear,

(12:11):
he didn't, he didn't move. And I kept going back
into the colors, kept looking, and then eventually somehow I
fell asleep that night and woke up the next morning
looked straight away. He was gone. Never saw that man again.
Had a lot of other weird stuff happened in the house,
saw other things, but never that particular entity, ghosts, whatever

(12:31):
it was, I don't, I don't know what it was,
but it was. It was. It was real. You know.
People say to me, oh, you could have been dreaming
or you know, it wasn't. Man, you know, I know,
I know it was. It was real and it was
there and it was solid and very strange. But that
was the moment that I was like, you know and Noah,
basically I.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
Would say that I know that this stuff's real, right,
I would think after that if you didn't know, something's
wrong there?

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Yeah? Yeah wow. So what.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Obviously that had a long lasting fact. I mean, that's
kind of intense actually for early experienced.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I can still see it so clear. It's like you
can't forget something like that obviously, you know, something like that,
and it's just whenever we talked about ghosts or anything,
that was just yeah, an entity, you.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Know, definitely, so definitely. So what is after after you
processed that and went through that experience, was that what
led you to kind of the journey that you you
found your way into podcasting.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
Too, I would think so. I think so. I think
that's probably where it stems from. Even before I had
that experience, I was, I think I did have other experiences,
but not quite clear experience that was like the first
for me definitely, you know. But yeah, other things happened
after that as well, and continue to happen to this day.

(14:18):
But I do believe that it stems back from from
that night really, because that was the sort of night
that it became real. As I say this, I knew
that what I was seeing there wasn't my imagination, you know.
It wasn't a trick of the lights. It wasn't it
was It was so clear, a solid man, you know.
And and that was it, and and it has probably

(14:40):
led me on this journey that I'm on now.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
Ooh yeah, yeah, of course it's obvious just by listening
to you if people don't know that you live in
a particular area of the world where this tree kind
of lends itself to the unexplained. Now, what I didn't

(15:09):
know was with some of the stuff that you told
me about the area where you live out in particular
before we came on tonight. So tie that in for
us give us some perspective on your area. You're a
part of the world.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
So I'm on from the UK and the house that
where I grew up in. So I'm originally from Essex,
which is right next to London, pretty much London as well.
Now i live in in Dorset, which is on the
south coast, and it's about two hours from London, so
it's not that far really, but it's quite a different
round here. It's a lot more countrified, a lot of

(15:52):
old castles and stuff like that. And where I live
right now, I live forty minutes away from Stonehenge, which,
as you knows, an area of a lot of high
strangeness crop circles and you know, all sorts of UFO
sightings constantly happening in that area. I've also got Coffee
Castle just down the road from me, which is fifteen

(16:14):
minutes drive from me, and it's about a thousand years old,
you know, and it's a beautiful old castle. It's mainly
ruins now but the main structure still there and people
visit it, you know, to this day, and it's meant
to be one of the most haunted castles in the UK.
As I said to you before, I know a lot
of castles and pubs especially claimed to be the most haunted,

(16:37):
but I don't know how they measure it. I don't
know it's in the top ten if you go and google.
But yeah, so there's a lot of everywhere it's haunted, basically,
but I think everywhere is all around the world, to
be honest, But there is a lot of a lot
of there's a lot of old history here in the UK.
It goes back to you know, thousands and thousands the

(17:00):
years really to the Druids, the Druids with Stonehenge and
stuff like that, and the history gets kind of blurry,
as you know, and we don't fully know all the answers.
We don't know how Stonehenge was built, you know, officially,
there's a lot we don't know. And what I found
interesting I had a while back. I had Matt Pike

(17:22):
on the show and he works at Stonehenge and he's
got a great knowledge of Stonehenge. He had a UFO
sighting himself there and he works there every day. Great guy,
and he was telling me that underneath Stonehenge itself is
pretty much untouched. They've not really done a lot of research.
They've not really dug a lot up. They've dug certain

(17:45):
parts up, but there's loads of loads of land there
that's not been touched. So there's probably a lot of
secrets there.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
Man.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You kind of don't want him to dig it up
because you don't want him to ruin anything or you know,
but there's probably more secrets under there if that's the case.
But yeah, it's very strange.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yeah, yeah, it's the history is just of course that
whole area. I mean, when you get into the backdrop
of what's now the UK, we know that, you know,
when the room came in and did their thing, it

(18:28):
was a very very destructive time. It was a very
intense time and history there have been many upheavals, many
different times throughout history where the land itself experienced some
very troublesome moments.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
You know, wars, invasions, all sorts of things took place there.
So of course with that you're going to have some
pretty intense activity. Now when we talk about like your experiences,

(19:13):
do you do you actively do research and investigations over there.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
I don't I actually done. It's something I would like
to do, it's something I'm considering, like starting to go
out and actually check out haunted places. I mean, I've
been to a lot of places that are haunted and
you know, history wise, loads of places up into obviously
but not actually investigated. And it's something I would like
to do. And I've started looking into the history more.

(19:43):
And the more you look into the history of your
area and where I used to live as well, I
started looking into the history there as well. There's so
much I didn't know, man, And there's so many rabbit
holes to go down. So yeah, I do want to
start exploring the local areas and the legends and stuff,
and that there's so many I know, you get that everywhere.
Everywhere it's got legends and law. But it's it's it's

(20:04):
cool to to dig and find this stuff out. And
I do want to start getting out and investigating.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
So Austin and I are going to come visit.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You come, that'd be amazing. Yes, you can stay. You
can stay at mine. Man.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
There you go, Austin, We've got we've got place to crash.
I would love to go over there. So you guys
had quite the party not too long ago over there
in the Stone Ange. Because every year there is a

(20:41):
celebration that takes place. There's several celebrate brasions that take
place as Stone Edge, but one in particular we just
had is a really big experience every year give us
a little bit of a rundown on that.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
So that was the what was it called, It's the
of the I remember what it's called. That's terrible, but
I know what you're talking about, the solstice. That's it.
That's the word I was looking for. I've never actually
been to that event, but it's really cool because I
know I really should, but they open it up because
normally you're not allowed to actually touch the stones now,

(21:20):
but this is the weird thing, so this is quite strange. Right.
So when I was a kid, when I was living
in Essex, we used to go on holiday to Carmel
every year, every single year, every summer, and we would
drive past Stonehenge every year and it was like a
big moment and we're like a stone Enge and we

(21:41):
pull up and I remember all of us getting out
of the car and walking up to the stones and
touching them and being in the circle. And I remember it,
you know, on my mom and dad do as well
and my brother. But now you can't do that, like
it's blocked off. And I was talking to Matt, who

(22:02):
I said was on the show, who works at Stonehenge,
and he said, it's never You've never been able to
just walk over to the stones. And I was like,
but I remember doing it. Maybe it wasn't allowed and
we was just still doing it. Which I'm sure you
could get to the stones like illegally if you wanted to.
But so maybe he was doing that, but there was

(22:23):
no one there stopping us, you know, and apparently there
always was. He did say there was a time where
because there was always a security guard there and there
was a time where they like switched over, so there
might have been a time where it was open. But
I don't think so, man, I think I don't know why.
I don't know what that's all about. But I definitely
have memories as a kid going over to the stones

(22:43):
and being inside them and touching them and stuff. And
we used to do it every year because it was
like a big thing to go past Stone Nge. And
now I live a little bit closer, so it's you know,
it's weird because I live so close to it, but
I only go to it, you know, every now and again.
But it's right on my doorsteps. It's forty minutes from me. Now.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
See, that's very interesting because I know from experience, it
doesn't matter where you're at in the world, we never
go to the places that the rest of the world
wants to be at if we live too close to them. Absolutely,

(23:27):
there are people I know in East Tennessee that have
never been to this great Smoky Mountain National Park no way,
and they literally live in towns around it. I'm like,
how can you never have gone there? It seem insane,
But it's true. It's true that people will just avoid

(23:53):
the places that you know. I got to tell you personally,
I avoid of those areas now because I work over
that way some it gets very congested. I get it.
It's very interesting that you guys have all have a
recollection of going up to the circle touching the stones.

(24:20):
Everybody in your family has that same memory, but yet
history bears witness to the fact that that wasn't possible.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Yeah. Yeah, it is weird because when I was telling
Matt I used to do it, he was like, well, yeah,
there's never been open to freely just walk over and
touch him. And I was like, okay, I remember doing
that though, So I don't know. I don't know what
that was all about.

Speaker 2 (24:55):
It would be interesting to see there's anybody else out
there that's had that experience. As a matter of fact,
if you have had that experience of remembering being able
to go up to the stones and touch them, leave
us a link down below and let us know about that,
because I want to know if other people have experienced

(25:16):
that as well. It's very interesting because I wonder if
maybe there is a time shift or a time glitch
that allows people certain people to do that at certain
times or whatever. So was you said this was a
yearly event with you guys. Was there a specific time

(25:40):
of year that this happened.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, it would have been August, so it was through
the summer holidays. So when we was off school every
year till I was twelve, we used to go to
Cornwall every year for two weeks a year. Every year.
It was our it was our family holiday that we
used to do. So we're on the way there, we
would we would stop off see the stones. On the
way back, we would stop off see the stones and

(26:04):
it was just a part because we'd call them all
from from where he was it was about six hour drive,
so it used to break up the journey as well.
You know, sometimes we'd start somewhere else overnight, like to
cut the journey a little bit. So yeah, I've got
those memories man. So but I mean, if you drive
past the stones now, there's no there's no fence up
really stopping you, like, you probably could drive up now.

(26:27):
I don't encourage anyone to do this because you probably
breaking the law and walk up to the stones pretty
easily without paying. But when you officially go to Stonehenge,
you park in a car park that's probably about a
mile away or whatever it is, because you've got a
lengthy walk to the stones. So you can't just walk

(26:47):
from the road to the stones. But I think you
used to be able to or there was some strange time,
I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, very interesting. Yeah, uh that's the other thing that
I think. Hm, we want to make very clear to
people when you go into some of these areas, treuth
them with respect. Guys. Like the last time I went
to the park here too, Great Smoky Mountains, there was

(27:18):
graffiti on rocks in the Federal parker. Yeah, there's reasons why,
I why people are not allowed to touch things now, because,
for one thing, the oils in our skin and can
transfer onto the to the surface of these things to

(27:40):
create a lot of issues for the stones, for a
lot of the environment itself. So be mindful when you
go to these places, and be respectful. Remember you are
not the only human being in the universe, So enjoy it,
respect it.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yeah, yeah, I get I get why you can't just
go up to the zones now because you would, you
would for sure get you know people some people just
don't care and they would like write their name on
it and stuff and you know, hag it or whatever
they called it. But yeah, that so I do get
why they have to protect it obviously. It's, you know,
such a special thing and you're going to get some

(28:22):
range people going over there. Ah, So.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Have you Have you heard about the Bureau grounds that
supposedly has hundreds of giant barns underneath it.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I'm not sure what is that is? That is that
near Stone Hinge, because I know that there's a lot
of mounds and it's not just Stone Hinges. There's other
like rock formations around there as well that are very strange.
And you've also got the giant have you seen that
there's like a naked giant in the on the on
the hillside. I forgot what it's called. I should remember

(28:58):
the name, but it's like they reckon it's over two
thousand years old. Might probably older than that, but it's
like like a caveman giant basically that they that they
made whenever they made a long time ago. I don't
I should have more information on it. So there's there's
a lot more around there.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
Mm hmm, yeah, yeah, definitely, and there's I know that
there's several things I've seen online that's very curious. And
I know that they've talked about the about uh having

(29:38):
petrified dragons and all kinds of things in certain areas
over there. It would be very interesting. M hm oh
yeah yeah. Yeah. Aston is asking was it Stonehenge gifted

(29:58):
under the condition that it would be always free?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
No, yeah, you have to pay. You have to pay it.
Last time I went to Stonehenge with me and the family,
it cost it cost us fifty pounds to go and
see it. Unfortunately, you have to pay. So yeah, but
we never used to. We never used to when I

(30:23):
was younger, So maybe maybe maybe they've changed their the regulation.
I mean they've definitely they've definitely tightened up the security
around there. It's you probably I don't know how easy
you'd be able to get over to it from the
roadside now.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But yeah, wow, very interesting, very interesting, and they are
during this Yeah, I would think I would think. So. Yeah,

(31:00):
so let's back up again and let's talk about some
of the things that you've experienced there in your area
and another areas because you've lived in places here. Yeah,
what are some of the other experiences that you've had

(31:22):
over time.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah, there's been a few. So in that house where
I saw the man, I also saw another range entity.
Well i'd say, I don't know what it was, but
I was in my mom and dad's bedroom and they
had like mirrors in their room and I was sort
of in there. This was during the day, and I
was in their room just being silly, playing around in

(31:44):
front of their mirrors, and I saw a naked lady
walk past me and i've seen her. Followed her into
my mum and dad's bathroom that they had in their bedroom,
and it was a naked, blonde lady again, full bodied.
It was like a solid form, and I just thought
it's my mom because my mom was blonde and she

(32:05):
would sometimes walk around the house naked, so that wasn't
too strange to see a blonde naked lady. So I
I said, Mom, that had started talking to what I
thought was my mom. But I clearly saw her walk
into the bathroom and I followed her into the bathroom,
talking to her. As I've got into the bathroom, there
was no one in there, and I was like, I

(32:26):
just remember, being so confused, ran downstairs. My mom was
in the kitchen, fully clothed, and I said, Mom, like,
was you in the bathroom? I've just seen you walk
past me naked in the barroom and She's like, no,
it wasn't me. You didn't see me. And that was
another time that I saw definitely something solid form, you know,
because at that time I wasn't even scared, you know,

(32:49):
it wasn't It was during the day, it was light.
I was just in my mom and Dad's bedroom being silly, dancing,
and I wasn't thinking anything paranormal, you know, there wasn't
so and I saw that. So that was another time
in that house that I saw something very strange that
was like a definite you know, wow. Yeah, And it

(33:09):
wasn't until really because I talk about this stuff with
people and share my experiences and someone said to me
recently that sounds like a double ganger, and I was like,
it does you know. I never put that term to it,
but it does sound like that, you know it was
I thought it was my mum, you know, and and
that that that's got some negative connotations with the double gangers.

(33:31):
And I've actually had stuff in this house possibly connected
with that as well.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Cheers. Yeah, So did you have you ever experienced And
I think a lot of people over here are very
curious about cryptids, So have you have you seen or

(33:58):
experienced anyencryptids here? And you say the barn I can't.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
I can't say I definitely have seen it a cryptied
but I've had some weird stuff that possibly could relate,
you know. And that's probably only because of what I
do with the podcast that I'm always thinking about this
stuff and connecting the dots. But this is quite strange.
So when I first moved to Dorset where I am now,

(34:24):
I've been in this house now for about three and
a half years. And when I first moved here, I
wasn't working. I just I just left my job to
move to Dorset and started the podcast. Yet I was
kind of thinking about it. And when we first moved
to this house, we didn't know anything about the area,
didn't know any We didn't know anyone, you know, we
completely moved to and all we knew is that we

(34:46):
wanted to live in form of Dorset where we are
because we wanted to be by the beach and the
forests and stuff, and so that that was all we knew.
And you know, after twenty twenty when we was locked up,
we said, as soon as we can we get free again,
we're gonna We're to move. And that that's why we
that's why we moved. And so when we first moved here,

(35:06):
I used to hear so I'd I'd sit in the
in the front room at night, and I've always been
like a late night our, so I always stay up.
I've always been like that two three o'clock in the
morning and I would hear like a growling outside the
window to the street, and I said, I used to
listen to us to be like, who's letting their dog
out at two o'clock in the morning in the front

(35:28):
and not in the backyard. You know, everyone's got a backyard.
Why would you let your dog out in the front
in the road, basically, And so I just always thought
it was a dog. But I used to hear it
all the time, like a growling, like something big, and
there was a rock whiler across the road, so I
just assumed it was that. So I've heard this ground
in one night and I'm looking out of the window

(35:49):
trying to see I'm expecting to see like a big dog.
Nothing's there. And that's weird, that's quite strange. And then
you know, I'm still not thinking anything. I'm just thinking
there must be a lot of explanation. We've got a
massive forest behind us, like Heathland Forest, and that is
like a big reason why we moved here as well,
because we wanted to be by the forest and stuff,

(36:11):
and I love going in the forest.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
I'd feel like half an hour walk every day in
the forest is something that I need to do. So
that's that was another reason why we moved here as well.
So it was it was again before I started the
podcast and stuff, I was taking my two daughters for
a walk in the forest. It was just me and
my two daughters, and it got it was getting like

(36:34):
it was getting lateish, but it was still kind of light,
and we got quite deep into the forest and my
eldest Amy, who would have been ten at the time,
just started freaking out. Now I know kids freaking out
in the forest when he's getting dark and stuff, So
this is what I'm thinking in my mind. But she
just started freaking out out of nowhere and said, Daddy,

(36:54):
I've just seen something. I've just seen a big foot.
And I'm like, calm down, like, we're you're, you're, you're,
you're scaring yourself. Basically, we need to get home. And
I said, we're talking on the way back. I said,
what do you see? And she said, like, I saw
a bigfoot edge, yellow eyes, and she's like describing a
bigfoot to me. Now I'm I'm sort of I'm not

(37:17):
really believing her. I know that. I'm just I'm just
I'm thinking in my mind, she's scaring herself. She's watched
one of my documentaries that she shouldn't be watching, because
I'm always watching. I try and not. I tried to
keep the kids away from the spooky stuff, freaky stuff,
but every now and again, they're going to see stuff.
So that's what I'm thinking. She's seen a documentary We're

(37:39):
in the forest, she's scaring herself. Didn't think too much
else of it. So there was those two things that
were kind of strange. And then I started working in
the area, so I'm starting to meet people, and there
was there's this young girl that I met in my
new job, and she was telling me about like the
local spooky stuff around here, because I was just starting

(38:00):
and Let's get Freaky podcast, so that was like my
main topic of conversation with people, like have you had
any paranormal experiences? So she said, well, in our forest
there's a devil dog law they call it the devil Dog,
and people see this thing I've had. She said she'd
had experiences with it, her dad had experiences of it,
and it's very much fits the description of like the

(38:21):
dog Man, but it seems to be more of a
supernatural thing where people will hear it, see it, maybe
see it, sense it, smell it, you know, like the
typical cryptid sightings that we get. And I was like, wow,
that's amazing. So we've got a cryptid in our forest.
And then I'm starting to think, okay, so I heard

(38:41):
that growling, and then my daughter saw something that night,
and I'm not saying it's definitely that, but possibly. The
funny thing is once I found out about the devil
dog law in the forest, I never heard the grounding
outside again, and it was quite regular at the time,
but that kind of stopped, which I found quite strange.

(39:02):
And then we got ourselves a dog. So I've got
a little staff as your bull terrier dog. Lovely little dog.
But he's crazy, but he's not nasty, but he's not
scared of anything or anyone. We've got wild balls in
the forest and he'd like he'll play with them. He's
not worried about anything. And we were going through the forest,

(39:22):
me and the whole family, and we got to this
certain spot and he completely freaked out for seemingly no reason,
like he was backing up. He was like scared of whatever.
He could see your sense in front of him. So
I've actually physically pick him up and walked walk him
through the path where he's freaking out, put him back down.

(39:43):
He was absolutely fine. I said to my wife, that
is so strange. Why is he just freaked out like that?
That is so out of character. And he's only ever
done it twice. He's done it. He's done it twice
in that forest, once in once that time, and then
he'd done it on another occasion with my wife where
he just freaked out and she kind of had to
move him past. He's only ever done that twice, but

(40:06):
it was like he was seeing something or sensing something.
Something was really scaring him. So I said, I'm going
to go back and check out the area. I couldn't
see anything that would There was no one else around,
no other animals, no idea. So that was another thing.
I'm like, maybe that's connected to the devil dock. Maybe.
And then another time it was me and my two

(40:29):
daughters again and they just got new bikes, so we
were taking them down. I took them down the forest
and their new bikes, and there was this little little
route you can go down which is like it's like
it's like probably a quarter of a mile wherever. It
was quite a long little road, but I can see
him the whole way down, and they like to like
ride down it, go to the end and come back.

(40:52):
So they were like, Daddy, can we go on this route?
And I said, yeah, go go. I'll be standing here
watching right they they're riding down the path. They've got
about halfway and I saw in the distance a gray
well I thought at first, I thought it was a
fox at first, but then I was like, no, it's
too big to be a fox.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
But it was.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It wasn't my ippedal. It was on all fours and
I was like, that's a big dog. And it was great,
and I'm thinking, okay, maybe an owner is going to
come come behind it. No one came. And my two
daughters got halfway and saw whatever I saw as well,
rereeked out, turned round on their bikes and and came
back to all to me. But my my middle daughter,

(41:35):
Ruby fell over, so I ran down. I ran down
to her, picked her up. I looked up in this thing.
This dog, whatever it was, was gone, and I said
to Ruby, what did you say? What happened? She went,
I saw a wolf, Daddy, I saw a wolf. That
was her words, and I was like, oh, okay, let's
get out of here again. I can't say it's definitely

(41:57):
devil dog, but it just when you put all those
things together, it's very strange. And I'm in that forest
every day, so that there's not you know, there's not
a lot. That's all that's happened in the three and
a half years I've been here. But yeah, sometimes you
get a weird vibe over there. But yeah, man, so
I put that possibly a cryptid, but I've never actually seen.

(42:23):
I'd love to see a big foot man. That's like,
that's like the dream.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I know.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
They say, be careful what you wish for, but I
would love to see something like that. Because cryptis is
a It's a big reason what I enjoy talking about
and I love hearing like cryptid encounters and stuff.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
So yeah, it's it's very interesting because of course where
I'm at and Appalachia there is at one time on
the land mass as were a one big thing. It's
pretty well situation where you can put all the pieces

(43:04):
back together again and tell that what we call over
here Appalachia was once part of the same chain of
mountains and so forth that is connected over there with
you guys. So of course I tell people all the time,

(43:27):
there's there's a reason why when the Scottish and Irish
came over, they kind of like gravitated to the mountains
here and they begin to fill at home and they
built what's now known as Appalachia, and there's a lot

(43:50):
of history here rooted with that. And I say all
that to say this, there's a lot of the mythology
and lore and a lot of the things traditions of
you know, Appalachia still to this day can be traced

(44:13):
back to their original uh kindred there and you know,
with the Scottish and the Irish and in those areas,
and so it's very interesting when you know, we've had
several people talk about me and even speculate over here.

(44:39):
Oh well, I wonder if you know over there they
have the same experiences with the cryptis that we do.
And unanimously I want to say, well, of course they would.
Why would they not because the land was once shared,
so you so in my mind I still say that

(45:04):
there's probably instances over there that can be compared to here.
Is the interpretation, the cultural views that may be somewhat different,
because you know, our hibilities over here, as we like
to call ourselves sometimes because people used to call these

(45:26):
hillbillies all the time, our interpretation of things is very
earthy and and and we have a I guess you
could say I kind of preconceived notion of how we
we we describe and talk about these things, much like

(45:52):
You guys over there have eons of history, and you know,
how you see things, how you view things is through
a different lens. So some of the experiences that we
have over here may very well be When you talk
about devil dogs, that's not a term we hear a

(46:14):
lot here. They call them hellhounds, which is the same thing.
But it's very interesting the experiences that you're talking about
and how how they seem to connect together. I guess
the way to put.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
It, that's that's what I found. That's all these like
everywhere in the world, people are experiencing these same things,
you know, whether it's like little people, paquagies, brownies, pixies,
you know, whatever you want to call them. You know,
whatever these things are that people are describing the same
things everywhere around the world. It's just normally cool, something different,

(46:57):
you know, that's normally. That's normally the only difference. Really,
people might describe it a little bit differently, but they
all seem to be the same. Man.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. When we I really want to
touch on this because I think it's it's one of
those things that again is not very understood over here.
The backdrop of of the lore and so forth. Ah,

(47:36):
in some areas there you know, traces back to the druids,
and some other you know, I'm sure there's things that
that we don't even we can wrap our heads around.
There remnants of of the pecks and so forth that

(47:59):
you guys, no exists that we may not even be
aware of that lead us to some of the modern
day law and so forth. Give us a little bit
of of of I guess, a little bit of insight

(48:20):
from from your perspective on how those past cultures and
those past civilizations, those past things come into play in
modern day lower there.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
But we still we still have druids. Now, there are
still people that you know, still go by the Druid way,
you know, and still there still exists, they're still around that.
The UK history is so wild really, you know, when
you look at it, you had old England. It was
nearly taken over so many times. You know, the Vikings

(48:56):
nearly nearly took over England. Basically it was only six
that fought back and tooking them back. You know, it
would have been completely different had they're taken the whole
of England. It would have been a completely different story,
I'm sure. But the culture is kind of intertwined with
Scandinavian culture as well, and it there seems to be

(49:17):
like a mixing pot here in the UK. But yeah,
there's still Yeah, as you say, there's there's so much history, man,
there's still but there's still a lot we don't know
as well. You know, there's still so much mystery to
it all as well, We don't really know. We don't
really have the answers to how it started here, that is,

(49:37):
you know, like a lot of history, to be honest.
You know, we've seen how history can be manipulated and changed,
you know, even in a short space of time. You know,
we see it even in our mainstream media now today,
how they can seem to sort of change history in
like a couple of weeks now. So you can imagine,
you can imagine a hundred years, one thousand years ago,

(50:00):
how much it's how much is probably wrong our history.
You know. I know a lot of people don't like
to hear that, but I feel like that is the case.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Very much. So sometimes I feel like I know the
history that I was taught. It's very different from what
they teach them as public schools and so forth. So yeah,
we have to we have to question history is really

(50:30):
given to us through the lens of the person who's
telling it.

Speaker 3 (50:35):
Absolutely, absolutely, and and and normally the winner of the
of the battle. But you're right though, that people put
bias on things and and change the you know, we've
seen that, We see that happening in today's world. So
it's it's it's probably been going on forever right.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
One of my favorite things to tell people about if
you really want to get an idea of how history
is excused according to perspective, there's the famous incident between
the Clan Cahoun and the mcgregors where the mcgregors were

(51:21):
actually kicked out of Scotland, were forced to abandon their
name in some cases, and many of them decided to
go by Gregor instead of MacGregor because well, there was
a big battle where the mcgregors killed a hundred of

(51:45):
the men from the Cones, and the women, the wives
of these hundred men before the king with their husband's
clothing from the battle and laid it before the king
and asked him said what are you going to do
to avenge our losses? And the response was to kick

(52:09):
out the mcgregors. Now, if you they were actually banished
at one point. Now, if you ask either side the history,
that's going to be horribly skewed. And that's one of
the things that I tell people all the time about
when you when we get a history of England, you know,

(52:34):
I mean today is a good example of over here,
everybody's celebrating forth of July. By the way, jokingly still
call it treason.

Speaker 3 (52:45):
They the.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
When you when you come over here and you get
the interpretation of history, English history becomes very different from
the American perspective, and it's the same thing over there.
I mean, our history becomes very different as all perspective.
This is why I say is really about who's telling

(53:15):
the story as to whether history is one way or
the other. One of my one of my English professors,
he was actually the head of the history department there
at the university here that I went to, was he

(53:37):
was from England. And when he was talking when he
did the World Survey of History and I took that class,
one of the things that I found interesting was when
he talked about Islam or the rise of Judaism or
whatever he called it, the cult of and of course

(54:02):
there were people who took offense to that over here,
and I asked him one day in classic would you
would you please explain to me what you mean by
the cult of when you say this, And he very
eloquently explained his perspective on the term cult and it
made sense to them after that. But there were some

(54:24):
people that were just like, oh wait a minute, Judaism's
not it called like at one time it was so
much like that, much like that.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
It's interesting you say about the name, So my my
name Column. I've sort of looked back at my history
and we we were actually Mook colum at first, and
it must have been similar where there was a battle
and some were dispersed and became column. They took away,
they took away the mook, so I could have been mook,

(54:58):
but they we broke off and changed it.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Contest. Yeah, very interesting.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
Okay, so when we.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
One of the things I'm very curious about because if
we always think about the legends and lore of England,
we talk about the we folk and and so forth
like that. I'm so tired of people's interpretation of Saint
Patrick's stay over here and everything is about.

Speaker 3 (55:29):
The we folk.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
But let's let's talk for a minute about how some
of those those creatures of lore. I I mean, for instance,
I'm always curious because of course, obviously my last name
is Cahun, my family origin is from Scotland is one

(55:53):
of the few places that has a mythical creature as
the animal of choice for their in their country. It's
hard to say that they're not laugh but the reality
is is there's some of the mythical creatures, some of

(56:13):
the lore that is very rich over there and has
it has some very key elements. Tell us a little
bit about the the We people and the concept of
giants over there, two different two different types of creatures

(56:33):
that are talked about frequently.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Yeah, I'm not too short. I mean the We people
that people call them different names, even in the UK
like that. You'll hear some people call the pixies brownies.
They're describing the same sort of things, but different towns.
I guess, going back one hundreds of years called these
things something different and that's why there's so many different names.

(56:57):
I think that's why it gets confusion sometimes. But there's
definitely a lot of legends and Scotland's beautiful, by the way,
such a cool place. I went. I went to Edinburgh
two years ago now one of the best places I've
ever been to. Amazing. It's like Harry Potter World. You're
literally walking around Harry Potter World, Hogwarts, you know, it's

(57:18):
like every building just looks like that Harry Potter. And yeah,
but there's there's so many legends and and I think
there's that there's something to these legends obviously, and I
think that's why we still have these experiences today, you know,
with with cryptians, and there's there's a lot of cryptid
signs in in in Scotland to this day, especially bigfoot

(57:38):
science I've talked to. I've heard many accounts in the
UK of of bigfoot sightings and a lot of them
come from Scotland, which is quite interesting. You know, there's
certain areas for for some reason, you know, I don't
know why, but it is an interesting.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I don't think that really answers your question, but.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
It does to a point. So here's what we need
to dive into ours that we haven't mentioned yet. Let's
talk about the phenomena of like aerial phenomena. Okay, because
a lot of people are familiar with the stories of

(58:23):
the flying the flying things, dragons, that sort of thing,
but there's other aerial phenomena that happens over there as well,
so let's talk about that for a moment.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
I've seen some weird things in the sky that I
can't explain. The first thing that I saw in this
I'm fascinated with with UFOs and stuff, so I'm always
looking up. I'm always trying to see something, you know,
and you do see lights in the sky that you
can't explain sometimes, you know, most people see that. You
talk to most people, even people that are not interested

(58:58):
in this stuff, and they'll tell you they've seen a
strange light in the sky that they can't explain. But
my first sort of big experience with that was when
I was fourteen years old. We was playing football in
the street or soccer in the street and me. It
was me and my brother and a few other friends,
and we used to do this pretty much every day,

(59:19):
just play soccer in the street. And it was during
the summer, and it was a beautiful day, blue sky,
and we're playing and one of our friends said, what
is that? And we've all stopped to look, and there
was this thing in the sky that to this day
I've never really seen again, you know, not how we
saw it. But the best way to describe it is

(59:42):
if you took a building from Dubai, you know, like
the modern, funky looking buildings, picked it up, put it
in the sky, really high up, and just let it float.
That is basically what we saw. And I know that
sounds wild, but we were watching this. As I said,
I was very young. I was fourteen years old, and

(01:00:02):
I didn't mind my ufone knowledge wasn't great. You know,
I'm not saying it's perfect now, but I know a
lot more now. I know a lot more. But then
I was fascinated by it. And we're all looking at
this thing in the sky trying to work out what
it was. You know, is it a plane, is it
a blimp? You know, we're going through all what it
could be, no idea what this thing was. It was

(01:00:23):
like an orange silver color. You know, I can't say
that we saw. It was too high up. You couldn't
see really if there was like windows on it or anything.
But it looked like there could be patterns to it.
You know, It's very hard to describe. But we're watching
this thing for like five ten minutes and it bugs
me to this day. But we all just started playing

(01:00:44):
football again, you know, we'd I don't know why, because
you know, I wanted to. You know, it bugs me.
And the weird thing is as well, is me and
my brother never really spoke about that. Of all the
weird things that we've experienced like that, never and it
was quite a big thing. I just see something like
that in the sky. Never talks about it after that. Really,

(01:01:04):
I can't remember ever talking about it because when I
started to get a freaky podcast, I wrote down all
the weird stuff that I'd experienced, so I, you know,
when I'm talking about this stuff, I can recall it
and stuff. Never even put that. I never wrote that down.
I never even remembered that memory, you know, even though
it was such an incredible thing. And I was on

(01:01:25):
a podcast, first time I'd ever been a guest on
a podcast. I was on Paranormal Heart with Catworld and
we're talking about UFO stuff and I've had other experiences,
so we're talking about that and this memory came back.
I was like, I'm going to share it, you know,
and I told her what I saw that day, and
I was like, Wow, how have I not remembered that?
And that's incredible, you know, am I going mad, you

(01:01:47):
know how I'm manifesting this memory. But my brother listened
to that episode and he called me like a couple
of days later after the show came out, and he went, Brave,
what was that thing we saw that day? And why
have we never talked about? And I was like, I'm
so glad you remembered that because I thought I was
going crazy? Why have we never talked about this before?

(01:02:08):
How have we not discussed this? And to this day
we don't know what it was. You know, I've seen
similar pictures that looked similar to it, but never exactly
what we saw that day. Very strange, man, you know,
because nothing like that should just float still motionless in
the sky. It was kind of glistening as well, it
were shining. So very strange, man, very strange. So that

(01:02:30):
was the first thing I saw that I say put
in the UFO category.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Wow, Yeah, that's pretty intense. So you touched on and
Tom also your podcast. Just think let's talk about that
for a moment as we're always starting to way ended
up for the night here because I know over there
you guys are like you will eventually want to go

(01:02:57):
to bed soon.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
On American Time, I live on American car. So right,
right now, the time is twenty past two in the morning,
but it's very normal for me. I got a bet
about four or five o'clock normally, and even then I
have to make myself go to bed. I live on
the Eastern Standard time. It's basically my time.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
How do you Yeah, I'm a bit of wiss, Yeah
I say that, but I work overnight, so usually i'm
a week Yeah, so let's talk about it the podcast.
First of all, where did this title come from? I
love the time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
Let's get freaky. I just I knew obviously I wanted
to do a podcast. I was thinking about it for
a long time. Never really had a name. I don't
know where it just it just came one day. I
was like, let's get freaky. I was like, yeah, that'll work.
And obviously some let's get freaky sometimes people think that
something else. You know, it can be another another topic,

(01:04:03):
you know, but it's you know, it's clean, well so clean,
none of that, none of that, but yeah, let's get freaking.
It just it just it just felt right and that
was it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
And yeah, you know, it's kind of goes because you
have a represent reputation that precedes you over here, and
it's a very good reputation. We love, love, love some Tommy,
and that's one of the things we have. We have
all come to appreciate your sense of humor and your

(01:04:39):
good nature about going with things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
So thank you man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
It's your podcast. And tom and I discussed this a
little bit tonight actually the do you eat hot dogs?

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
I do. See there you go, guys, Oh my goodness.
Then I agree, Pam. It does. So when you when
you put your show together, when you really started to
evolve into where you are now, what was your mission?

(01:05:25):
What was your main goal?

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
It's a tough one because I don't really know. But
when I just knew I wanted to do a podcast,
and I knew I wanted to talk about paranormal because
that's a subject that just fascinates me. You know, I
can just I can. I can sit and listen to
people tell me their experiences all day. I love it.
I don't get sick of it. I love hearing people's experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
And I just so.

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
Podcast for me was quite a big thing. So I
used to listen to podcasts quite a lot before I
started Let's Get Freaky, And I really enjoy listening to
podcasts to this day, I love it. I love sort
of escaping, you know, because when you listen to a podcast,
I feel like you're you're kind of be in that conversation.
You're in the room with those guys or girls, whoever's talking.
You're you're there. It feels it really feels like that

(01:06:12):
there's something special to me about a podcast. And podcasts
got me for a lot of like bad days, you know,
like in a job where I wasn't too happy, I'd
put a podcast in and it would lift me and
I'd be like, oh, this is this is so good.
It's like made my day this podcast. So I was
kind of thinking, I'd like to do that for other people.
I would love to be a place where people can

(01:06:33):
just tune out, relax and know that I'm going to
be there at a certain time every week. Because there
was podcasts that I used to rely on at a
certain time every week. I'd really look forward to it.
It was like it became a part of my routine.
So I was like, I'd love to be that for
someone else and have a route. And again, I love
meeting people like yourself and meet so many amazing people,

(01:06:55):
and yeah, that's that's what it was, man. And I
didn't know what I was doing when I started this gift,
and I still don't really know, to be honest, I
still don't really know what I'm doing. But I'm enjoying it. Man.
I love meeting people like you, and you know it's
it's it's such a cool thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Well, I think the general consensus over here is we
love you that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
I love you all. I want to move to America,
that's the goal I want to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I want to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I want to live in America one day.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
It's so funny. We are well we are, but there
are those of us who want to escape and that
so many others. I would love to go to live
in Scotland for a period of time. Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:07:39):
Scotland's beautiful, man, it really is. It's a special places.
Like it's not a magical place.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
It really is. It really is. It very much is.
And that's one of the things that that's kind of
my goal. But you know, you went, you would have
so so many people over here that would absolutely adore
you being here. So thank you well, because here's here's

(01:08:06):
the thing. It's like you have succeeded in accomplishing what
you set out to do. You make people's day, you
make you give people information that they want, but you
also make their day, you make it brighter, you make
it more fun. And I think that is the beauty
of let's get freaky. I gotta tell you, like when

(01:08:30):
I when the first time we talked, I was like,
I really wasn't that familiar at first, and I didn't
realize I had this whole group of people around me
that was in the know and with keeping you their
best kept secret. And I'm just like, I'm like, is
this guy? And the more I talk to you, the

(01:08:53):
more I realized I don't know, but I gotta know
and accumulating into now with like my best friend. I
love it. You know your show is a combination of

(01:09:19):
thought candy and therapy in thank you both so we
really appreciate you. Let me ask you this, what closing
thoughts would you like to leave with us tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Or closing faults. I'm just thank you so much for
having me on mine for a start. I mean, I
really enjoy coming on talking to you closing faults. I
think it's important to share your experiences. We all have
a lot of us have these experiences, these paranormal experiences.
And sometimes you can feel a bit stupid telling people,

(01:10:01):
you know, especially people that are not into this kind
of thing, Like the amount of times I've shared an
experience with someone and you get that look like really,
even though they've probably had an experience themselves at some point,
you still get that look. So I think it's important
to share your experiences. The more we share, the more
we learn, you know. I think the best way of
us ever getting the answers to these these subjects is

(01:10:23):
just by talking and learning more. And I think that's
that's an important thing to do. So share your experiences,
and it's it's a friendly community of this community that
we're in and a great community. And yeah, it's join hi.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Hi, Hey, So give us really quickly, give us a
little bit of an idea of or you've got coming
up on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
All next up on the show, I've got them the
next episode, which will be out next Monday, and it's
I can tell you what the show is cold. It's cold.
I'll say that, and then I forget. It's not non
human intelligence mind control. So he said, it's it's an
interesting one. It's an interesting one that will be out Monday. Yeah,

(01:11:17):
I guess yes, date, that's that's Monday's episode.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Awesome, awesome, all right, guys, we've got something to look
forward to on Monday. Again, thank you very much for
coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Thank you anytime, man, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
You were definitely one of my favorite people. So and
I appreciate you. I'm gonna pull it's back and close
off and I want to talk with you in just
a moment.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Thank you, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
All right, guys, there you have it. It is amazing
chat tonight. You guys were an awesome, awesome group. I
thank you for joining us, and just again, thank you,
thank you, thank you for your ongoing support. Don't forget
if you watch this far, give me a comic, give

(01:12:19):
me a like, And guys, just a heads up. I
have more people watching my show who are non subscribers
than people who subscribe. So hit that button, give me,
give me your your devotion if you will, and remember,

(01:12:43):
may your journey always be magical.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Wait for so long to see will you come back
to me.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
Through the walls and battles that were lost. We're born
against you and me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:07):
The rest is history.

Speaker 4 (01:13:11):
Passes pass size. If we danced together.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
In different Fast fifteen hundreds.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
How it end?

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
For we must be loved, we must have bet suffered
in our past life.
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