August 3, 2025 • 77 mins
What if everything you’ve been taught is only a sliver of the truth? In this electrifying episode of Magical Journey Podcast: Between Worlds, we sit down with Cesar Pagan, creator of Beyond the Frequency 369, to explore the hidden layers of consciousness, ancient knowledge, and multidimensional reality. From suppressed wisdom and esoteric teachings to the vibrational codes of the universe, Cesar challenges the mainstream and invites us to question what lies beyond the veil. Is reality far more malleable, mystical, and meaningful than we think? Tune in as we decode the frequencies that shape our perception—and uncover the truths they never wanted you to know.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Bay and hello everybody, and welcome back to Magical Journey Podcast.
(01:21):
I am your host, Daniel Ian Kahoun. Before we get
started tonight, I would like to just briefly remind you
guys of Magical Journey podcast dot com, the website where
you find out all things Magical Journey, including upcoming events,
(01:44):
social media's and where you can find magical merch, which
is one of the more important things on there, I
think personally, and I am not wearing any if that's okay.
Gotta have a costume change every once in a while. Okay, tonight,
(02:04):
speaking of tonight, since it is tonight, I am going
to give you guys a little bit of a break
in some of the gruesome and gross and emotionally disturbing
things that we've been talking about lately. And we are
(02:27):
going to talk about another podcast tonight. And this podcast
is beyond the frequency three sixty nine. So let me
bring on my guest tonight, Caesar par Gone. Hey, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hey, Daniel, how are you? Thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thank you for being here. And I just wanted to
say right off the bat, I'm already wanting to know
about this book that you've got, so I want when
you do the promotion, I want to get some idea
of that book.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Absolutely, I mean, do you want me to promote it?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now? Listen, let's plug away, plug away.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, all right, Well, so first of all, folks, I
do have a website. It's beyond the Frequency three sixty
nine dot com and you'll find all the information about
my podcast, myself, my book, and any training and mentoring
that I do also on my website. This book here
(03:37):
is called Ksars Chronicle the Onnaki in Us and basically
it's a lot of ancient truth put down into a
children's book. Okay, so it's also it's ancient truth stories
that I've read and I've realized it's now a mainstream
(03:58):
we don't talk about this and sometimes these books go
out straight to the adults, to the adults, the adults
that already are set in their in their ways. So
I decided to take some of these stories put him
into a book. Actually, Ksar, which is the title. That's
actually my fourteen year old son's name. Wow, so I
(04:19):
you know, so I definitely dedicate this to him. It's
my first book, by the way, as well. And this, uh,
this This story talks about a young Ksar. He's an Anaki,
and he is basically introducing from from his perspective, his family,
who's the who's on Anaki, how they came to the planet,
(04:41):
how they created man, things like that. But it's also
written in a fantastical way that inspires and encourages young
minds and even adults to to just take a look
and see if maybe we can turn some heads.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Wow that sounds fun. See. I like so people think
that I'm crazy because I like the children's books, but
sometime and the artwork is probably amazing and there too.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, I'll give you a peak. Yeah. So this is
the back of the book.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right, Oh wow, yeah, and here's some here's some artwork.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, so I'll show you one more
page here.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Right, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah. And what's also interesting is that this book is
exactly thirty three pages. And I think you know because
you've had Brad Lee on here and the importance of
the number thirty three. So everything in this book there's
hidden symbols. There's a hidden how you say, key points
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of our history that will make young minds that don't
really know about what's going on just kind of ask
the question, Hey, mom and dad, what's this and then
go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Good two Good doo. Yeah, I like the thought of that.
So you mentioned Brad, and Bradley has been on our
show not too terribly long ago, so now he has
a very interesting take on a lot of things. But
(06:32):
I'm wondering the two of you, do you have similar
or not so similar views when it comes to subjects
like the anonochy and that sort of like ancient alien theology.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that's a great question, Daniel. So Brad and I
are good friends, and so we've been friends for more
than twenty years. We met in the military. Actually we
both served in the Air Force. But twenty years or
so plus later, we both awakened, right, we both woke up,
(07:16):
and I am, I believe. I know. Brad talks a
lot about you know, frequency and light, and it talks
a lot about the thirty third Parallel, a couple of
cryptid stuff, you know, demonic beings, uh, the fallen angels,
things like that. My route is a little bit different,
(07:41):
I am. My podcast is about it's about the power
of the conscious mind, the power of of you. I
do unravel, uh, you know, multi dimensional realms, obe's consciousness, UH,
the ancient civilization, things like that. But every conversation that
(08:04):
I have on my podcast is basically a trigger's designed
to awaken something forgotten. So it's not about teaching new information,
it's about helping people remember what's already buried within them.
So I bring guests that have steps out outside of
the veil, medium, experiencers, out of body explores, things like that,
(08:28):
and we have that conversation. And I guess the last
thing I would say on that topic, Daniel, is that
the purpose of my podcast is hopefully the conversation that
is being had triggers a remembrance in you to remember
who you truly are before the world convince you otherwise.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Awesome, very awesome. Are you familiar with an author by
the name of Guy Ballard? I am not, or God
Free Raking, right. So it's very interesting because that particular
author wrote a series of books called The I M
(09:10):
On This course is a very much somewhere along the
lines of this sort of thing that you talk about
to a point, So it's kind of interesting. I've been
familiar with that UH organization and their their theology for
(09:32):
a while, So tell us a little bit. You say
that each each episode is kind of an awakening itself,
a key to awakening. So how do you go about
planning out your show? How do you go about bringing
(09:55):
about I mean, do you do you intentionally see make
out people for specific topics? How do you how you
go about going and doing all this?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I appreciate the question, Daniel. So the short answer
is I have people who watch the show or have
heard about it reach out to me having an understanding
of what I like to talk about and something that
they saw, whether it be a clip or episode or
just a conversation, If it resonates with them, then they
(10:30):
want to reach out to talk more about it. But
from my end, I do reach out to people that
also come across my way and that reach out and
I probably just like you. I asked them like, hey,
you know, I would love to have a conversation with
you about set topic, and if they're interested, then they come.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
On good too, good too. Yeah. And what do you
say to people who were like, dude, that sounds really
new agey in a way.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I actually don't hear that much and I actually don't
really understand what new age really means at least I'm
not in that conversation. I guess it's fair to maybe
give you a little bit of background of why I
even started this podcast, just to give a foundation. I
(11:22):
am Panamanian and Puerto Rican, so my my land culture,
uh on the Panamanean side. I grew up hearing lost
stories from my own family about the supernatural things.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
My grandfather was, according to family, he was a white warlock,
so he had a magic spell book things like that.
I heard stories about my aunt walking through walls or people,
you know, uh, hunting witches back you know, even back
in that timeframe, not too long ago. And I grew
(11:57):
up with the mindset of wow, we're we're more than
just this meetsuit, like there's something more to us. But
as a child, I don't know anything, right, So I
grew up trying to find something that resonates to my childhood.
So I started watching superheroes, right and try to relate
to those. So those were the gods and the deities
that I was familiar with. So as I got older,
(12:22):
you know, obviously I also grew up in the church
as well. My folks went to church, so I was
a Christian, you know, went to Bible study task, you know,
all that good stuff. But Church just did not resonate
with me. You know, fast forward, I became an adult,
and even though Church wasn't already still resonating with me,
(12:48):
that's all that I knew, you know, that's all that
I knew to keep a spiritual connection with the higher
you know, God and things like that. So I just said,
let me just follow what's already been indoctrinated to me. Right.
And I had a couple of instances in church as
a young adult in my twenties, like one of them
(13:10):
being there was a sermon or yeah, somebody talked the
pastor of talking about how Jesus left when he was
twelve and came back at thirty years old, and I'm like, wow,
that's a big gap. So I raised my hand and
I asked, where did he go? You know, it's a
simple question, right, where did he go? And long story short,
(13:30):
I was disturbing. I was disturbing whatever the narrative was,
whatever the story is, and I could never get the
answer to that question. So that led me to just,
you know, learn what a gatekeeper was. You know, it's
like you're telling me certain things, but you're not telling
me everything. I joined the military at some point, right
(13:51):
at eighteen, and I traveled around the world and I
met people, new people from different cultures, different countries, and Daniel,
I found out firsthand, eyes on target, as they say
in the military, that other people want the same thing
that I want, peace, love, harmony, you know. So I
(14:15):
was like, okay, it's I need to stop defending someone
else's truth started defending my own truth. And then that's
when I started kind of empowering my myself. I broke
away from all of that, and I started realizing that
there were so many things that and you know, the
Bible's ran in so many different ways. I mean, you know,
(14:37):
who really understands it, right? I ended up finding ancient texts, Daniel,
you know, ancient texts, ancient literature, ancient writing. I started
learning how to read Cuneiform, and I started reading things
like the Otrajcies and Anuma Elish and all of these
(15:00):
stories that dated, you know, the Bible, like over four
hundred and fifty thousand years. And I'm like, where, why
isn't this on mainstream? And there's tons of these stories
and museums and things like that. So that woke me up.
I think in two thousand and nineteen or so or twenty,
(15:25):
I had a many breakdown, had a many breakdown because
of all this new information, you know, and this is
something that I'm familiar with now, and I also guide
other people that seek out information. But my foundation was gone,
and I'm over here now just trying to figure out
(15:46):
where to land. So finally I landed, and I started
realizing how powerful that I actually was. And I started
getting into a lot of this literature and I started reading.
I started hearing these stories and they were and Daniel,
they were filling in gaps, so many gaps, you know,
(16:07):
things that made sense. And I asked the common questions,
like everybody else who wrote this, you know, like like
and if and if these things were dated according to
science and archaeology, you know, thousands of years. Who would
spend time to just falsify this stuff in rock? You know?
(16:28):
You know, I mean, if we know the process of
how to do all that, that takes a long time,
you know. So so yeah, and I guess the last thing,
the last comment on that, Daniel, would just be I
ended up finding ways to empower my myself, and I
went to stop reading books you know, stop reading what
someone else is telling me, you know, what their story was.
(16:50):
And I started hearing about out of body experiences. So
I ended up starting doing it with myself. And then
I am in out our body explore as well, and
I leave at that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Very good. Yeah, there's some things that I think we
Western culture is very quick to indoctrinate people right away
into some form of either Catholicism or Protestant theology, and
a lot of people never investigate past that. They never
(17:27):
get past that moment. A lot of people tend to
in this country, they do what I call whitewashing the Bible,
because it is a book that was written a specific
time for a specific culture, by a specific culture, and
(17:52):
it is much like the Gidas and the Vitas. If
you don't understand the culture of the people that wrote it,
and you don't understand the time period and so forth,
you're not going to understand the context of what's been written.
You know, It's not like reading an egger Casey book
(18:13):
from the you know, from this time periods the modern age.
And I think a lot of times, whenever you start
stepping out and reading some other things and learning other things,
you do you find an open what's the word I'm
(18:36):
really wanting to look for. You find yourself opening up
to the idea that there's more than what you've been
told and through that wall here and you kind of
break through it. So what was you said? You had
a breakdown, which and some circles would call it a breakthrough.
(19:06):
Tell us a little bit about that that transitional period,
what triggered it, and what was it like going through that?
And then what was it like coming out on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I appreciate you asking that, Daniel, So what was it like?
It lasted for probably about a good two months, Okay,
And I'm married, by the way, and then at that
time my wife now was my fiance, so she knew
(19:42):
me one way, you know, she knew me as I
was before before I started studying and researching and doing
my own exploration. And then she saw my transformation and
she saw my mini breakdown. Remember the first day I
(20:03):
was successful in reading one of these ancient texts, and
I started bringing about the Anaki, you know, a by
these beings right that UH that supposedly came to uh
to Earth and re engineered UH the hominid species that
were on this planet. And things like that. And you
(20:27):
can call it fantastical, you can call it, you know,
mythical stories, but it was a story that was written
so long ago, which makes you ask the question, who
wrote this? Who wrote this? You know, today we can
(20:47):
look back and say the author of this one book
is this? You know or so and so wrote wrote that.
But a lot of these ancient texts, those people aren't
aren't around them. More so, the question that I had
asked was what did they see? What did they experience?
And that's what what had me just throw thrown back
(21:10):
because nobody today could actually one certainty tell me who
those people were. And I was also more disappointed that
I saw a lot of these stories were never never
introduced to me, Daniel, never once, never once were these
(21:32):
stories introduced to me as a young child or even
as a young adult. I'm forty two now or forty three,
one of those two and uh and yeah, no one
ever talked to me about these things. And I'm like, why,
what is what is the I didn't understand why humans
would keep these secrets, right, you know, here's my global
(21:52):
mind and or everything. And then later on I find out, oh, yeah,
I know why they don't want they don't want you
to know, right. So I had to break down. My
wife saw it. I was spilling out a lot of information.
Oh I found this, Oh I learned that, and you know,
I was just spewing everything right, stuff that I couldn't
even explain. And my wife got scared. She got scared.
(22:17):
She was like, my fiance just lost it. And I
don't blame her, but she was supportive. She was like,
he's going through something, you know. I talked to my
to my mother, and I told her, you know, hey,
this is what's happening here. She thought I joined the cult.
She thought I joined the cult. She thought that I was,
(22:39):
you know what a lot of probably folks that come
on and show things that I was possessed or some
you know, all these different things, and I'm like, no,
it's just I'm waking up. I'm breaking out, you know.
And So how I got through it was through continuing
reading that information, that same information. I started realizing that
(23:00):
a lot of that literature was talking about how powerful
I am, how powerful I am, you know, if we
were made an image of something. What they're what they're
saying is is is I'm like you you're like, you know,
you're like me, you know, so yeah, So I just
(23:23):
stuck with that and just say, okay, something, I'm greater
than what I'm told that I am. Now need to
go find out and prove that to myself. So that's
how I got out of it. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think a lot of people go through that experience
of like I said, some people call it breakdown, some
people call it breakthrough, where you know, it's just it's
overwhelming because you there's so much to take in at once,
(24:00):
and I think the other side of that can be
a chance for people to to it's almost like walking
into a fresh spring day, like everything is new, everything
is bright, green and pretty, and the air is fresh
(24:22):
and clean again. And that's sort of what it felt
like for me when I because I had that experience
too of just oh boy, and then you know, the
walls kind of come cracked and started coming grumbling, and
(24:42):
the more information that was coming in, the more I
was like ah, and then there was that aha moment
where you breathe, open your eyes and walk forward. And
it's very much like that in a sense of a
breakthrough experience for so many people when when you were
(25:10):
going through your this period, Obviously there were things that
crossed your mind at times. Did you did you have
any doubts about, oh my god, am I doing something
wrong here? Were there any any times when you were
(25:32):
questioning should you be researching this stuff?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's a great question, Daniel. No, I didn't have doubts
why because the information that I was reading resonated with me.
I knew it felt right. And talking from from this,
from this point, as I sit here with you, I
do understand that when when you know something but you
(26:03):
don't know why, it's because you remember, it's because you remember.
I have this understanding. And I don't call these things
a belief. I don't believe in certain things. I have
an understanding about certain things right, and my understanding is
that again, we are here to we are here to
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remember we forgot. You know, a lot of people live
their life as humans trying to have this spiritual, you know, experience,
But it's the other way around. We're spiritual beings having
this human experience. Once I learned that, once I flip
that upside down, that changed my whole direction because I
(26:48):
was looking this way versus this way. Everything everybody that
everybody teaches you to look outside of yourself into the universe.
But what about the you inverse? You know, what about
the universe inside inside of you? No one ever, no
one ever talks to you about that. You know. If
you're sick, they tell you to go to a doctor.
(27:10):
Don't hear yourself. You don't know anything. If something's wrong
with you in your head, don't talk to yourself, you're crazy.
Talk to a therapist if you need help, guidance, talk
to God or whatever is out there outside of you,
you know. And I was like, why why is everything
(27:31):
outside of us? Like everything seemed like it was about
keeping us down, you know, making us you know. The
narrative was that you guys am my law to say
a curse word here. Sure, you guys aren't shit, you know,
you're nothing. And I'm like, how can we accept that?
(27:52):
Why do we accept that? You know, like a matter
of fact, who who said that was right? And I'm like,
it is everybody else that wrote history and whatnot. So
I will tell you this, Daniel, the first time that
I stepped out of my body, I that basically told
(28:14):
me religion to me when out of the door, h
that when you when you step out of this meet
to that. That's it period. There's nothing else to There's
nothing that religion can then talk about that from that
point on, once you step out of your body, now
(28:37):
it's up to you to explore. So that was a
breakthrough for me and I I just my first outer
body was last November or something like that, Like my
first out you know, outer body. That's it. That couldn't
That confirmed a lot of things for me. So that's
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where I'm at today. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
There's actually a movement that started, I think during the
fifties or sixties called Eckincar. Their whole thing is about
astro projection as they call it, leaving the body and
traveling to different worlds and so forth. And I always
found that very interesting. I discovered them when I was
(29:26):
probably about wow, fifteen sixteen years old. By that time,
I had already been doing this sort of thing, So
it seemed to me like interesting that a whole group
of people found this and had developed a whole following.
(29:50):
Do you believe in reincarnation?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No, I don't. I believe incarnation incarnation, So reincarnation for folks,
it's just like what happened to Jesus is consciousness left
and then it reincarnated back into his to his meat suit. Right.
And if I'm offending anybody by calling the meat suit,
(30:16):
I apologize, But that's just kind of what I call
it these days. But incarnate, it's to take your consciousness
and transferred over to another body, another, another physical body.
And this is something that the ancients did with ease.
They never said, they never talked about. In my research,
(30:39):
no one ever said anything about reincarnation. The only time
that I ever heard reincarnation is in the Bible, you know,
But everything before that, it's always about transferring consciousness from
one vessel to another. And this is how they extended
their lives. And this was a normal thing. This is
why if you look at things like the Samerians kings lists,
(31:02):
you have a list of tons of kings that ruled
Mesopotamia for thousands of years, where one guy reigning for
eighteen thousand, one guy reigning for thirty six thousand years.
You're like, how do you do that? You know, and
(31:22):
they have things they talk about. If you read it
the Samerian texts and things like that, you'll you'll realize
that they had things like the halls of lamenting under
the pyramid of Giza, which they haven't found yet, but
they're going to find it pretty soon. And in there
there's these chambers where these these kings, these deities, these
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on a Naki would rest their body, transfer the consciousness
to another body and continue ruling and their followers, their people.
They knew who that was, you know. So it's like,
you know, and it's something that a lot of species do,
but to us it's you know, it's it's new because
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we haven't really we forgot how to do that, but
we've always been able to do that. So yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I like the way you answered that when you when
you're talking about the thing like transferring consciousness. I think
that that is very much in line with how a
lot of people, what many people are calling reincarnation is
(32:41):
really the transferred consciousness. I think the misinterpretation of the
terminology is a little bit maybe problematic in a way.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's how people want to understand it. I mean, what's
I mean, what does re re anything mean? Right? To
do it, to do it again?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So like if you're watching a movie and you rewind it,
it's the same movie. You're just going back to a
certain point in that same movie when you rewind something.
You don't go to a different movie, it's the same movie,
so re stays within itself. So yeah, that's two words,
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reincarnate and incarnate. So a lot of people drop the
incarnate because they don't talk about it. Everybody sticks to
the story. Oh well, Jesus reincarnated, so he came back. Well, okay, fine,
if we followed that narrative, yeah, he came back to
hit his body, But what about everybody else who didn't
come back to their body and just you know, they continued,
you know ruling.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, it's very interesting too, because there's one of the
things that I've been following lately are like just random
reports of children who are remembering past lives. One of
them that I read was a young child I think
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it was a little boy actually, that said that he
passed on nine to eleven in the towers, and this
little kid, who was like five six years old was
vividly describing the between towers things that he can possibly
(34:38):
know and you know about, and the imagery that he
was using and so forth. Was very interesting because it
was very convincing reading the story that he was definitely
having an experience that was very unique.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Uh, let me ask us Daniel regarding that boy, do
you think he reincarnated or or he incarnated?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think he incarnated, right, he transferred basically from one
body to the next.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Uh So I find I find these stories very interesting,
and I find there was there was actually a case
where an entire town transcended and they all were basically
re reunited together through sharing their stories, and because people
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kept noticing their similarities. They all these people were talking
about the same town and they were giving specific details
about the town that all lined up, and so this
group of people finally joined together and we're like having
open communication about all this. And it turns out that
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there was like a large number of these people who
were from this entire area. They all came back around
the same time period. So it was a very interesting
reading some of these stories. That's why I'm very, very
curious about your thoughts on on incarnation and the transfer
(36:33):
of consciousness. Yeah, and Pam is just throwing up all
kinds of good stuff here tonight.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah. Hello, Pam.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
As always, Pam is your fan. She's the one who
suggested me having you on the show.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So okay, I appreciate you, Pam, Thank you so much.
I do appreciate you she's doing.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
She definitely was, She's your your material. She's one of
probably the I would say, queen of the molds of
the podcast community.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Always on the ball with things always. What are your
thoughts on so you you talk about the anonarchy, explain
to us a little bit for those that don't know
who the anarchy are, what exactly we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sure, so the anarchy they are. The anarchy is a word,
it's not it's not a race. So the anarchy is
basically anybody who came who's not from Earth. Okay, in
this timeframe, they were just called on a knocking uh.
So a lot of folks originally had that confused. They
(38:02):
thought that was a particular race. But there was just
a bunch of them and those that came from above
the anachi uh. In a short highlighted version, they came
from a planet called Nibiru. And this planet had it
a very large atmosphere and it was surrounded by gold.
(38:26):
I think gold was what reflected the Sun's the Sun's
rays or something like that, so I kept the planet
safe for something. I'm not too too sure they're but anyways,
their atmosphere that gold that was protecting their planets started
started going bad. Uh. They were having a lot of
(38:49):
earthquakes and volcano city situations going on on the planet
that was affecting it. So they ended up finding Earth.
There's a whole story how Earth became. But they found Earth,
they found there was a lot of gold here.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So they ended up bringing a whole workforce here. It
was the Aronachi and their their workers, which was called
the Aggi. It was pretty much like the working class.
The Aronachi were like the foreman, and the gg were
like the workers, right. And they came here and they
(39:26):
were actually stationed first in Mars. And this is why
you hear a lot of stories about seeing a lot
of you know, pyramids and other sculptures in Mars because
of a whole situation that had that happened there. But
then also the other workforce was was on Earth in
(39:47):
a place in uh Africa called Adams Calendar. And if
you guys google Adams Calendar, you'll find that it is
the very first gold mine go figure. So you have
some of the remnants still there. And the Ajigi, the
working class, came here to just do a breakaway civilization
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on Mars, and they worked their butts off for over
two hundred and fifty thousand years, and they obviously were
upset after a while. They're like, hey, we're like we're
being treated like slaves here. We're one of you, you know,
And they ended up wanting to rebel and do a mutiny.
(40:29):
So they came from Mars down to Earth. And this
is where you get the stories of these beings that
came from above, and they were going to basically destroy
what was going on on Earth, you know, with the
on Anaki that were here, the roal, the royals and
(40:50):
things like that. Anki and Lil were two of the
Annachi kings. They were the son of Anu. Anu was
like their their god, They're they're king, and they ended
up Enki, who was the wise and leader one, ended
up just saying like, hey, I don't want to need
(41:11):
any trouble. I get it. Let me try to find
a solution. So he remembered over all those thousands of
years there's this like bipedal hominid species running around on
the planet. He's like, hey, these I could probably do
something with this. So fast forward, they ended up retinkering
(41:32):
the genetic uh material in these in this species. Two
then impregnant one of their own, on Anaki, which was
you guys would know her in Egypt as Isis. And
she carried this this being for ten months in her wound.
(41:53):
And you'll see in the British Museum and other museums
like it in Germany there's a of Isis holding an
egg over her head saying I've done it. I've created
the first Adamu, which means in their language, the first man.
So anyways, you guys can find these stories. I don't
want to like bor you with all that stuff, but
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there's all these fantastical stories that just kind of explain
what's going on. And these were written not by humans.
These were written by you know, if our history scientifically
says that humans were existed as far back as six
thousand years, then who wrote the stuff that was written
(42:36):
four hundred and fifty thousand years right, let's just give
it a name Aliens. All right, Well, I want to
talk to those guys. I want to read what they wrote.
So that's where I get my stories. And I apologize
if I actually went off on a different deal. I
forgot what your original question was, so sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That was very interesting. Uh. Fun. Everything that you're saying
very interesting because it's very much h It's in line
with some other things that I've heard and read and
believed over the years. It's also very interesting whenever you
(43:20):
bring up the the topic of isis which is our
whole new level of interest for for some of us,
every theology and every mind thought, mind set uh tends
(43:42):
to you have the goddess or the mother uh somewhere
in there. Uh, you know, And it's very interesting that, ah,
we all are here in the West in a very
(44:04):
male centric theology when in fact, again, I mean when
you think about it, creation itself takes place in a womb,
definitely not a male theology at all. So when when
(44:25):
we take when we bring in the thought of the goddess,
the thought of the female aspect, I think a lot
of people their their ears perk up a little bit.
They're like, ah, Okay, this sounds familiar. This is something
that I recognize. It's kind of a trigger. We understand
(44:47):
that that the old edge of which came first the
chicken or the egg. It's obviously the egg. I'm sorry,
there's a tendency for me to want to believe that
when the Christians talk about and I'm christ oh pagan,
(45:12):
so let me throw myself in that group talk about God.
I think one of the things that they that we
have a habit of tagging on there is that God
is male. We don't understand that God is actually spirit
and therefore, if you will, androgenous or of male and female,
(45:36):
because spirit doesn't really have a tinder that encompasses all
things essentially, and I think that's where a lot of
people fell and understanding sometimes what spirit really is. Spirit
is literally all things, and I think all things have spirit,
(46:02):
have a spiritual energy about it personally kind of where
I'm thinking. Anyway, let me let me ask you this
because I again not that by any means rock sort
of thing in my world, but I have a whole
stack of them here and over there. And what is
(46:24):
your thought on on crystals and crystal you sit in
your practice?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Got crystals here? Crystal's here. I got a pretty cool
one up here too, this one, this one's kind of cool.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have So I
do have crystals. What I I don't practice them. I
don't practice with them like other more you know, define
(46:54):
more refined individuals that have a method with them. I
do have them around. I have of you can't see
him above above my logo. I have a whole shelf
full of Egyptian statues, and I have crystal pyramids and
things like that that absorb, uh, you know, negative energy
and things like things like that. But I have seen
(47:16):
my crystals glow when when I'm when I'm out of
my body, they do glow. So they are they are
every single one of them is sentient. So a lot
of folks have a hard time believing that. But wait,
somebody said, caes are you saying deities like on Anaki
(47:38):
are not a race? That's correct, And on Anaki is
just an encompassing word for what we call today an alien.
That's I hope that answers your question there without going
too much detail. So on Anaki is in one race.
They don't look one way. They're just you know, those
(47:58):
who came from above period. Yeah. But yeah, I've seen
my crystals glow and they are sentient, and a lot
of people have a hard time understanding that. Another thing
that people probably have a hard time is something that
I'm about to say is that I tell folks with
(48:21):
full confidence that now listening carefully. I am a god.
I am a god. I'm not saying I'm god. I
just say I am a god. Why does Caesar say that?
I say that because from my understanding, from what I've seen,
from what I've experienced, let's just go with Let's just
go with that. I have that divine spark, even if
(48:44):
it's in the pinky of my finger, that's enough to
make me a god. And if for those people who
believe or have the understanding that we are part of source,
if I'm part of Source, then I am sourced. Right
(49:05):
if you look at it at an ocean and you
have a cup of water, So if you have a
cup standing on the coast, and if I take that cup,
grab some of that ocean in there, is that water
inside the cup still part of the ocean or is
it its own individual thing? That's up to you, right,
that's up to you to understand that. But the way
(49:25):
Caesar understands that is that I'm part of the ocean.
Doesn't matter where I'm at, it doesn't matter what container,
doesn't matter if that drop was taken ten miles down
the way. I'm still part of that ocean, you know.
And rivers rivers flow always back to the ocean, right
you know. So if our life is like a river,
(49:45):
even though it's leanar and things like that doesn't have
all you well you could say some people can say
it has curves, right you know. Either way, we all,
we all, we came from somewhere and we flow right
back to it. So my understanding, I know this is
probably not even anywhere to what to what you were asking, Daniel,
But my understanding is is that we came here to
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experience what we're not. Just think about that for one second.
We came here to experience what we are not. So
if we are these omnipotent, godlike creator beings, which is
what we are, in order to understand what we are
and who we are in totality, we have to experience
what we're not. We have to be able to die,
(50:32):
to suffer, to cry, to get angry, to have these
human like experiences. And then when this meets suit expires,
because it will, we don't just cease to exist. We
go back to our original state with more information, data collected,
(50:52):
mission accomplished. I'll stop there.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
This is very true, and that is what I was
thinking about the whole thing about spirit is is is all,
and all is connected together in that sense personally, that's
kind of what I feel how I feel it. And
you're right, you're at your analogy of the ocean and
(51:22):
taking a couple of water out of it. It does
not necessarily negate that that cup of water isn't it
is an individual entity. You know. Again, it's according to
your perspective on that is still part of the ocean.
It still came from the source of the ocean. So
(51:43):
therefore you can't divide it too far from what it is.
You know, you taste it, it's going to taste like
the ocean.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I mean, you said it, Daniel, you know, I mean
a lot of people, a lot. And the beautiful thing
is that while we're having this human experience we're gonna question,
there's people that completely just don't it goes over their
head what we just said, and guess what, you're not wrong,
that's okay, it is absolutely okay. The beautiful thing about this, Daniel,
(52:17):
is that, to my understanding, is that when for everybody
that has forgotten what they are because they're having this
experience and this intentional experience. So it's not it's not wrong,
but everything that you are arguing or disagreeing or don't understand,
It's okay because when you leave this realm, you go
(52:42):
back to remember you're like, ah, man, you know we
came here the intention, the creation of this construct was
made for you to forget. This was created for that intention,
for this experience. So we're doing exactly what we signed
up for. Okay. So when we came here, we willingly
(53:07):
because again we're we're omnipotent beings. We can't be controlled,
we can't be manipulated. There's no judgment, like we are
creator beings. So we made a conscious choice to come
here and have this experience.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
We definitely did, absolutely, And some people talk about soul contract,
which I'm not sure how I feel about that, but
I feel like even I love it when somebody says, well,
it's just a baby, nobody asked to butt them, Like, really,
are you sure? Can you prove that we didn't ask
(53:49):
for this?
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah? Yeah, I do. Hear a lot about the Accashic
records and things like that and people that can tap
into it. I've had guests too that can tap into that.
So what go to a comment that I made about
now that I can leave my body and I've only
done it for four times. I don't want anybody to
(54:14):
get confused like I do it every every day. There's
a whole process to to to this. But one of
my targets is this so called Acasiak records. M hmm.
I hear about it. I hear, I hear people talk
about it. But now that I can leave my body,
now that I'm not limited to this body, I'm going
(54:38):
to go look period, end of conversation. That's it. So
when I see that for myself, I'll let you Daniel, No, hey,
I put eyes on it, I saw it, I touched it. Yep,
there is a thing. Now I move on to the
next thing, you know. So that's how I work in
(54:59):
my underst down in my research.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
That's that's very good and it's very true. I think,
do you find that because you're right, there is our
whole process today. It's not like we just like decide, oh,
I think I want to step out and go for
a journey today. And it's not one of those things
where you can just like boom instantly do the thing.
(55:26):
Like you said, there is a process.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Well, it's not a it's not a hard process to
where it's only I can do it. The folks can
do it. Everybody can do it. There is a process
you have to understand how to do some something. But
once you do it, for some folks more than others, Daniel, Yeah,
they can just slip out, you know, uh the first
time that you know do let me tell you my
(55:54):
first experience. Sure, okay, just kind of give some con
some context on it. I researched. I looked around finding
out what everybody else is doing. You know, who's who
has the better dummy down version of you know, of
whatever the case is. And uh, it led me into
(56:14):
Darius J. Wright. You heard that name, mhm Okay, a
lot of us have, right, So it led me into
into into him. And and I've study his method, all right,
this guy knows something. And I studied for probably I
studied his particular method, just his for about nine nine
(56:39):
ten months last year. And no success, no success, frustration,
just like what am I doing? Like this is ridiculous.
Then I had to kind of reprogram my mind things
like that. So that's part of a process too. In No,
(56:59):
in November, towards the end of November, a little bit
after Thanksgiving of last year, I was it was probably
about like five point thirty six o'clock in the morning.
And when you wake up, you don't really have a
whole lot on your mind. You just kind of woke up.
You're kind of just like peaceful, relax, right, that's the
(57:20):
best time to do it because you're not distracted with
the day to day. So I woke up a little
earlier than my wife. My wife was sleeping to the
left of me, and I was like, let me just,
you know, try to go ahead and go do my
breathing exercises. Bring down my electric magnetic field down to
a certain level so I can slip out. That's the idea,
(57:42):
And the key thing is is my intention? What am
I trying to do here? I just said, I just
want to just step out.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
So anyways, I was doing it probably for about I
would say, roughly about forty five minutes or so, and
then my wife started to kind of wake up, sheet
started to move and she started kind of moving around,
and I was like, oh my gosh. So I like
turned to my left to look at her and tell her, babe,
you know, please please give me like five minutes, like
like I feel like I'm almost there because I was
feeling these sensations and blah blah blah, and and she
(58:15):
just sat up completely ignored me, put on her slippers
or something, and then just went to the restroom. And
I'm like, wow, okay, you know, someone woke up grumpy, right,
And I had, But I noticed that when I was
looking to my left, I was looking to my left
and then down and I was like, what And you
(58:37):
fully conscious, you know the way I'm talking to you now,
I'm like, what's going on with that? And I looked
at my right peripheral down behind me, and I saw
something was laying and I turned my head just a
slight bit and I saw myself sleeping, and I was like,
oh shit. And as soon as I said oh shit,
I fell back into my body. I opened up my
(58:58):
physical eyes. I looked to my left. My wife was gone.
She was in the bathroom. So you can imagine my
joy at the moment. I'm like, I did it, like
I you know, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know
when I did it, but I did it, you know.
So that was my first experience, and then from there
I took that understanding of what was happening to then
(59:20):
replicate it until I got better at it.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, I think it's very important that people understand h
that you need to know the process, You need to
know what you're doing and how to go about doing it,
and that this is mhm, not to put fear into
(59:47):
it by any means, but that you know, this is
something that you don't just do lightly. That you have
to understand that there you you need to keep that
ca connection with your body and not disconnect completely from it.
(01:00:07):
Some of us call it the crystal chord lining or
the crystal chord that connects you to the body. You know,
you always want to have that map back and one
of the reasons for that is because if you don't,
you know, there are some people who may not be
able to reconnect if they do this.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Do you mind if I add something to that to
that comment? Sure, So, again just from my personal experience,
there is there is no chord okay you and no
matter how far you go away from the body, you
actually want to get away from your body, okay, because
(01:00:51):
you're not dead. So that electric magnetic field is is
heavy in my In my second O b E, I
was I was separating from my body through my through
my right arm and it was tough, like I was
(01:01:13):
yanking and yanking, and it looked like it was like goo,
like a spiritual goo, not actual like context like drip
dripping go. It was like just like kind of like
gum stuck on something right and and uh, but there
is no there is no no cored. And that electric
(01:01:33):
magnetic field that that is around our body, that is
coming from your heart as long as your heart is beating,
you know, like when you're in the hospital. You see
the movies where the it goes the flat flat line,
that electric magnet field, that's that feel that the machine
is picking up. When it's gone, you slip out, you
(01:01:54):
you you, you leave. So controlled outer body is what
is what I do and a lot of a lot
of friends of mine do. And we lower our electric
magnetic field, just like the Earth has an electric magnetic field,
which is the result of gravity. It creates gravity. Everyone thinks, great,
gravity is this thing. No, gravity is the byproduct of
(01:02:17):
the electric magnetic field. So we have the same around
our body. And that's what keeps our energy, our soul,
what animates us. When this thing, when this awareness leaves us,
we're like this okay, And this is why this is
why we go I used to go into sleep paralysis.
(01:02:40):
I don't anymore. But the reason that we go to
sleep paralysis is kind of like a security measure for
our bodies, so it doesn't hurt itself, okay, because it
doesn't know what's happening, you know. So if you're doing
this is like, well, some folks like when they're dreaming
and things like that. Imagine somebody, Imagine if your wife
(01:03:01):
or girlfriend or whoever was dreaming and she starts like
flaying around and kicking and everything because she's dreaming about
This is why our body goes into sleep processes. But anyways,
at that point, that's when you leave your body and
there is no chord. I'm sorry. That's what I was
trying to tell you, Daniel, there is no chord. And
also the fear state, I too believed. I was skeptical.
(01:03:24):
I'm like, what am I going to see? Well, Daniel,
I got over that because I understand where we're from.
We're from an we're from an unconditional space, pure love. Okay,
And all you hear is people talking about demonic beings
and entities and blah blah blah. But Daniel, I gotta
(01:03:47):
tell you a lot of people that talk about that,
they don't know what an actual demonic being is. All right,
So here's my understanding what demonic being is if you
if you don't mind, So, if we're all everything from
unconditional love, like like true source, right, a negative entity,
a negative being and a negative soul has gone so
(01:04:10):
far away from that love that it becomes dark. And
why is it that these dark entities are always attacking
these these bright lights Because they're trying to find their
way back home. So if you don't let them back in.
And when I say in, folks don't get confused with
(01:04:33):
like put, you know, put possession and things like that
I'm talking about. If you don't help the negative entity
back in, then where else will it turn to? Just
think about that. I've had friends who have we've talked
about this and they realize this and when they when
they leave their body and they encounter a negative being,
(01:04:56):
they bring it in Because you are a gateway back
to the light, back to source. So as long as
you you you shine bright, and you believe and you
know what you truly are, nothing can hurt you. Nothing
(01:05:17):
can hurt you. So once you understand that, that's when
you can go ahead and start taking steps into having
an outer body experience, because the moment that you think
that something's gonna hurt you, it will. It will not eternally,
but temporarily because you're in a fierce state. So that's
(01:05:37):
very hard to get over, I'll admit that. But once
you know, I've seen some things outside of my body
that I didn't understand. Now I see them and and
it they're they're they're beautiful, They're beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
So there's definitely an intensity and or intensified, intensified sensation sense, sensory.
But I guess that's what I'm trying to say, mm hmm,
(01:06:12):
regarding what once you step outside your body, like, things
smell more intensely sweet almost in a sense, the colors
are more vivid, sounds are more pure and less less
(01:06:33):
some less filtered, I guess is a good way of
putting it. So it is definitely more a less strained,
a less less less filtered experience all the way around,
because when you're looking through the physical realm, there is
(01:06:56):
a lot of I mean there we require braining itvity
to tell us what we're seeing and so forth. You
don't get that on the spiritual level. So it's definitely
different in that sense.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, and Daniel Mike, he's asking, what do I listen?
Do you listen? You listen to frequencies when you meditate
if you're if you're asking, is he asking me?
Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Or I think he's just asking in general?
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Okay, I I used to, but I'm not. I'm not
meditating just by the way, I don't. I meditate, but
I don't listen to frequencies when I meditate. I use
my own voice because of my understanding. In short, I
understand how powerful my voice is. So your voice can
(01:07:44):
actually heal you. So if you're if you're if you're
wondering more about that, you can look into that or
you can you know, email me or something like that.
But I understand that, So I don't use frequencies too
ought to often. But yeah, so I like and oh
(01:08:05):
you know a lot for for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yeah, I tend to do the same thing I use,
Like I'll chant mm hmm, a mantra to do if
I'm want to do meditation. Uh. One of the one
of the mantras I really enjoy uh to chant is
the higher Christiana mantra, which a lot of people find
(01:08:33):
that kind of amusing. But the rhythm of it and
the sound of it to me helps me connect, I guess,
is the way I want to put it a little
bit more if I'm managing meditation. But again, when it
comes to h the whole idea of preparing to lead
(01:08:57):
the body and so forth, I really don't use sounds
so much for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I use I Well, I still do. I'll tell
you that I still use a blackout mask because I
really want to just you know, really see my own light.
And you know what's funny is because of the whole
leaving the body, once you leave the body, your frequency
(01:09:27):
change changes. It doesn't go back. It's you know, and uh,
that actually allowed me to even open up my my
mind's my mind sight and folks, I think folks call
that like your third eye and things like that. But
either way, so now when I put on blindfolds, I
(01:09:49):
can see without my physical eyes. And that, to be honest, Daniel,
that that threw me back. That threw me back because
I just couldn't make sense of it. I knew I
heard people doing it. I just you know, but it's
(01:10:10):
part of my exploration. I'm like, well, it done. The
outer body. There's a whole lot there that there's so
many stories I have with that. And then when the
mind side opened up, I just sit in darkness with
my blindfold, just like, all right, well, you know, I
understand there's a process to this, and I just wasn't believing.
(01:10:32):
I wasn't believing that I could do it. And a
lot of folks don't realize this, Daniel, But we actually,
to my understanding, we actually see not only through our eyes,
our physical eyes, but we also see through our skin.
It's something that I recently came across called dermal vision.
And we have our eyes here and here, but you
(01:10:57):
don't really ever see your nose. It's it's it's in
front of your face, but you don't ever see it.
You know, every now and then you don't realize when.
But we actually are seeing also through the bridge of
our of our of our nose. This is how we
get that complete one one look. But no one ever
talks to you about that, no one ever mentions anything
(01:11:19):
about that. So when I was opening up my mind sight,
I realized that no, I'm not seen with my eyes,
but I'm seeing through uh, through my through the bridge
of my nose. And that was something that I had
to get used to.
Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I guess it really depends on the average person probably
doesn't ever see their nose. I have kind of a
big schnoz, so I can see a lot of my nose.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Well, is that when you cross your eyes?
Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
No, like I'm dying about right now, like even really
I have. I have what we call a Roman nose.
I inherited that from my French Canadian side of my family.
Lay in It's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Prettymant okay and understood. I didn't know that. But I
think you look.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Fine, awesome, Thank you. We're We're just past the hour mark.
I would like to if I could get your final
thoughts for tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Final thoughts. Wow, yeah, just remember, you know, continue to
have these conversations with like minded folks, pick their pick
their brains, no matter how fantastical it sounds. We're in
I think we're in an age now, in a time
(01:12:46):
where we're not talking about these things in a closet.
You know, we're out out there openly talking. There's folks,
there's platforms available have the conversations because you know, like you,
I'm an explorer physical and also outer body, and everybody
(01:13:07):
is experiencing this realm just like you are having this
human experience, but everybody is experiencing it differently. So in
nord to get an understanding of the big picture, the
big puzzle, you gotta be able to like find the
little pieces first, right, talk to the little pieces to
then be able to step back and say, Hey, somewhere
(01:13:28):
between this and this, there's a common thread. There's a
truth here. And if that truth resonates with you, I
guarantee you'll you'll, you'll you'll be exploring even even further.
You know, But talk to people and question everything, Question everything.
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Don't just stick. Don't even believe anything that I said
on this episode. Don't believe anything that I said. Go
do it yourself. Go go out of by do you
go open your mind? You know you can do all
of this and uh, and I believe you guys can.
And I guess the last thing I would say is,
(01:14:10):
like my outro, I say, I love you, I see you,
I hear you, I am.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
You one, I appreciate you, and I'm glad that you
came on tonight. Thank you very much for that. If
you will hang back for just a moment, I'm going
to close this out and I will be right back
(01:14:36):
with you all right. So I don't know about you, guys,
but I learned a lot of good stuff tonight, and
it was a refresher in some ways for some stuff
that I had almost forgotten. To be honest with you,
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as older, that sense of remembering all those things, pass
those down doesn't thank you, guys for joining us. I
would like to also say, if you made it this far,
leave us a comment about what you thought about tonight's show.
(01:15:21):
If there was a concept that we covered tonight that
resonated with you or that you felt strongly about, let's
hear about that. I want to invite you guys back
next week with my guest, Ron Moorehead. If you don't
know who he is, let me fill you in. He
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is the man responsible for the famous recording of the
CRS Sounds, among other things. So yes, next week we
will be talking about the cryptids again, in particular Bigfoot.
So like to see some of you smiling faces, Jenny,
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some of you guys, some of my mom's. I definitely
expect to see you there next week. Uh And as
always in your journey, always be magical, waiting for.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
So long to see when you come back to me.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Through the walls and battles.
Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
That were lost, we're all again as you and me.
The rest is history, to be danced together in different
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still fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
How to end.
Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
We must have been loved, We must have been so
ud lap as life
Bay and hello everybody, and welcome back to Magical Journey Podcast.
(01:21):
I am your host, Daniel Ian Kahoun. Before we get
started tonight, I would like to just briefly remind you
guys of Magical Journey podcast dot com, the website where
you find out all things Magical Journey, including upcoming events,
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social media's and where you can find magical merch, which
is one of the more important things on there, I
think personally, and I am not wearing any if that's okay.
Gotta have a costume change every once in a while. Okay, tonight,
(02:04):
speaking of tonight, since it is tonight, I am going
to give you guys a little bit of a break
in some of the gruesome and gross and emotionally disturbing
things that we've been talking about lately. And we are
(02:27):
going to talk about another podcast tonight. And this podcast
is beyond the frequency three sixty nine. So let me
bring on my guest tonight, Caesar par Gone. Hey, how
are you.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Hey, Daniel, how are you? Thank you for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Thank you for being here. And I just wanted to
say right off the bat, I'm already wanting to know
about this book that you've got, so I want when
you do the promotion, I want to get some idea
of that book.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Absolutely, I mean, do you want me to promote it?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Now? Listen, let's plug away, plug away.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Okay, all right, Well, so first of all, folks, I
do have a website. It's beyond the Frequency three sixty
nine dot com and you'll find all the information about
my podcast, myself, my book, and any training and mentoring
that I do also on my website. This book here
(03:37):
is called Ksars Chronicle the Onnaki in Us and basically
it's a lot of ancient truth put down into a
children's book. Okay, so it's also it's ancient truth stories
that I've read and I've realized it's now a mainstream
(03:58):
we don't talk about this and sometimes these books go
out straight to the adults, to the adults, the adults
that already are set in their in their ways. So
I decided to take some of these stories put him
into a book. Actually, Ksar, which is the title. That's
actually my fourteen year old son's name. Wow, so I
(04:19):
you know, so I definitely dedicate this to him. It's
my first book, by the way, as well. And this, uh,
this This story talks about a young Ksar. He's an Anaki,
and he is basically introducing from from his perspective, his family,
who's the who's on Anaki, how they came to the planet,
(04:41):
how they created man, things like that. But it's also
written in a fantastical way that inspires and encourages young
minds and even adults to to just take a look
and see if maybe we can turn some heads.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Wow that sounds fun. See. I like so people think
that I'm crazy because I like the children's books, but
sometime and the artwork is probably amazing and there too.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Yeah, I'll give you a peak. Yeah. So this is
the back of the book.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right, Oh wow, yeah, and here's some here's some artwork.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, so I'll show you one more
page here.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Right, oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah. And what's also interesting is that this book is
exactly thirty three pages. And I think you know because
you've had Brad Lee on here and the importance of
the number thirty three. So everything in this book there's
hidden symbols. There's a hidden how you say, key points
(05:57):
of our history that will make young minds that don't
really know about what's going on just kind of ask
the question, Hey, mom and dad, what's this and then
go from there.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Good two Good doo. Yeah, I like the thought of that.
So you mentioned Brad, and Bradley has been on our
show not too terribly long ago, so now he has
a very interesting take on a lot of things. But
(06:32):
I'm wondering the two of you, do you have similar
or not so similar views when it comes to subjects
like the anonochy and that sort of like ancient alien theology.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, that's a great question, Daniel. So Brad and I
are good friends, and so we've been friends for more
than twenty years. We met in the military. Actually we
both served in the Air Force. But twenty years or
so plus later, we both awakened, right, we both woke up,
(07:16):
and I am, I believe. I know. Brad talks a
lot about you know, frequency and light, and it talks
a lot about the thirty third Parallel, a couple of
cryptid stuff, you know, demonic beings, uh, the fallen angels,
things like that. My route is a little bit different,
(07:41):
I am. My podcast is about it's about the power
of the conscious mind, the power of of you. I
do unravel, uh, you know, multi dimensional realms, obe's consciousness, UH,
the ancient civilization, things like that. But every conversation that
(08:04):
I have on my podcast is basically a trigger's designed
to awaken something forgotten. So it's not about teaching new information,
it's about helping people remember what's already buried within them.
So I bring guests that have steps out outside of
the veil, medium, experiencers, out of body explores, things like that,
(08:28):
and we have that conversation. And I guess the last
thing I would say on that topic, Daniel, is that
the purpose of my podcast is hopefully the conversation that
is being had triggers a remembrance in you to remember
who you truly are before the world convince you otherwise.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Awesome, very awesome. Are you familiar with an author by
the name of Guy Ballard? I am not, or God
Free Raking, right. So it's very interesting because that particular
author wrote a series of books called The I M
(09:10):
On This course is a very much somewhere along the
lines of this sort of thing that you talk about
to a point, So it's kind of interesting. I've been
familiar with that UH organization and their their theology for
(09:32):
a while, So tell us a little bit. You say
that each each episode is kind of an awakening itself,
a key to awakening. So how do you go about
planning out your show? How do you go about bringing
(09:55):
about I mean, do you do you intentionally see make
out people for specific topics? How do you how you
go about going and doing all this?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Yeah, I appreciate the question, Daniel. So the short answer
is I have people who watch the show or have
heard about it reach out to me having an understanding
of what I like to talk about and something that
they saw, whether it be a clip or episode or
just a conversation, If it resonates with them, then they
(10:30):
want to reach out to talk more about it. But
from my end, I do reach out to people that
also come across my way and that reach out and
I probably just like you. I asked them like, hey,
you know, I would love to have a conversation with
you about set topic, and if they're interested, then they come.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
On good too, good too. Yeah. And what do you
say to people who were like, dude, that sounds really
new agey in a way.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
I actually don't hear that much and I actually don't
really understand what new age really means at least I'm
not in that conversation. I guess it's fair to maybe
give you a little bit of background of why I
even started this podcast, just to give a foundation. I
(11:22):
am Panamanian and Puerto Rican, so my my land culture,
uh on the Panamanean side. I grew up hearing lost
stories from my own family about the supernatural things.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
My grandfather was, according to family, he was a white warlock,
so he had a magic spell book things like that.
I heard stories about my aunt walking through walls or people,
you know, uh, hunting witches back you know, even back
in that timeframe, not too long ago. And I grew
(11:57):
up with the mindset of wow, we're we're more than
just this meetsuit, like there's something more to us. But
as a child, I don't know anything, right, So I
grew up trying to find something that resonates to my childhood.
So I started watching superheroes, right and try to relate
to those. So those were the gods and the deities
that I was familiar with. So as I got older,
(12:22):
you know, obviously I also grew up in the church
as well. My folks went to church, so I was
a Christian, you know, went to Bible study task, you know,
all that good stuff. But Church just did not resonate
with me. You know, fast forward, I became an adult,
and even though Church wasn't already still resonating with me,
(12:48):
that's all that I knew, you know, that's all that
I knew to keep a spiritual connection with the higher
you know, God and things like that. So I just said,
let me just follow what's already been indoctrinated to me. Right.
And I had a couple of instances in church as
a young adult in my twenties, like one of them
(13:10):
being there was a sermon or yeah, somebody talked the
pastor of talking about how Jesus left when he was
twelve and came back at thirty years old, and I'm like, wow,
that's a big gap. So I raised my hand and
I asked, where did he go? You know, it's a
simple question, right, where did he go? And long story short,
(13:30):
I was disturbing. I was disturbing whatever the narrative was,
whatever the story is, and I could never get the
answer to that question. So that led me to just,
you know, learn what a gatekeeper was. You know, it's
like you're telling me certain things, but you're not telling
me everything. I joined the military at some point, right
(13:51):
at eighteen, and I traveled around the world and I
met people, new people from different cultures, different countries, and Daniel,
I found out firsthand, eyes on target, as they say
in the military, that other people want the same thing
that I want, peace, love, harmony, you know. So I
(14:15):
was like, okay, it's I need to stop defending someone
else's truth started defending my own truth. And then that's
when I started kind of empowering my myself. I broke
away from all of that, and I started realizing that
there were so many things that and you know, the
Bible's ran in so many different ways. I mean, you know,
(14:37):
who really understands it, right? I ended up finding ancient texts, Daniel,
you know, ancient texts, ancient literature, ancient writing. I started
learning how to read Cuneiform, and I started reading things
like the Otrajcies and Anuma Elish and all of these
(15:00):
stories that dated, you know, the Bible, like over four
hundred and fifty thousand years. And I'm like, where, why
isn't this on mainstream? And there's tons of these stories
and museums and things like that. So that woke me up.
I think in two thousand and nineteen or so or twenty,
(15:25):
I had a many breakdown, had a many breakdown because
of all this new information, you know, and this is
something that I'm familiar with now, and I also guide
other people that seek out information. But my foundation was gone,
and I'm over here now just trying to figure out
(15:46):
where to land. So finally I landed, and I started
realizing how powerful that I actually was. And I started
getting into a lot of this literature and I started reading.
I started hearing these stories and they were and Daniel,
they were filling in gaps, so many gaps, you know,
(16:07):
things that made sense. And I asked the common questions,
like everybody else who wrote this, you know, like like
and if and if these things were dated according to
science and archaeology, you know, thousands of years. Who would
spend time to just falsify this stuff in rock? You know?
(16:28):
You know, I mean, if we know the process of
how to do all that, that takes a long time,
you know. So so yeah, and I guess the last thing,
the last comment on that, Daniel, would just be I
ended up finding ways to empower my myself, and I
went to stop reading books you know, stop reading what
someone else is telling me, you know, what their story was.
(16:50):
And I started hearing about out of body experiences. So
I ended up starting doing it with myself. And then
I am in out our body explore as well, and
I leave at that.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Very good. Yeah, there's some things that I think we
Western culture is very quick to indoctrinate people right away
into some form of either Catholicism or Protestant theology, and
a lot of people never investigate past that. They never
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get past that moment. A lot of people tend to
in this country, they do what I call whitewashing the Bible,
because it is a book that was written a specific
time for a specific culture, by a specific culture, and
(17:52):
it is much like the Gidas and the Vitas. If
you don't understand the culture of the people that wrote it,
and you don't understand the time period and so forth,
you're not going to understand the context of what's been written.
You know, It's not like reading an egger Casey book
(18:13):
from the you know, from this time periods the modern age.
And I think a lot of times, whenever you start
stepping out and reading some other things and learning other things,
you do you find an open what's the word I'm
(18:36):
really wanting to look for. You find yourself opening up
to the idea that there's more than what you've been
told and through that wall here and you kind of
break through it. So what was you said? You had
a breakdown, which and some circles would call it a breakthrough.
(19:06):
Tell us a little bit about that that transitional period,
what triggered it, and what was it like going through that?
And then what was it like coming out on the
other side.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
I appreciate you asking that, Daniel, So what was it like?
It lasted for probably about a good two months, Okay,
And I'm married, by the way, and then at that
time my wife now was my fiance, so she knew
(19:42):
me one way, you know, she knew me as I
was before before I started studying and researching and doing
my own exploration. And then she saw my transformation and
she saw my mini breakdown. Remember the first day I
(20:03):
was successful in reading one of these ancient texts, and
I started bringing about the Anaki, you know, a by
these beings right that UH that supposedly came to uh
to Earth and re engineered UH the hominid species that
were on this planet. And things like that. And you
(20:27):
can call it fantastical, you can call it, you know,
mythical stories, but it was a story that was written
so long ago, which makes you ask the question, who
wrote this? Who wrote this? You know, today we can
(20:47):
look back and say the author of this one book
is this? You know or so and so wrote wrote that.
But a lot of these ancient texts, those people aren't
aren't around them. More so, the question that I had
asked was what did they see? What did they experience?
And that's what what had me just throw thrown back
(21:10):
because nobody today could actually one certainty tell me who
those people were. And I was also more disappointed that
I saw a lot of these stories were never never
introduced to me, Daniel, never once, never once were these
(21:32):
stories introduced to me as a young child or even
as a young adult. I'm forty two now or forty three,
one of those two and uh and yeah, no one
ever talked to me about these things. And I'm like, why,
what is what is the I didn't understand why humans
would keep these secrets, right, you know, here's my global
(21:52):
mind and or everything. And then later on I find out, oh, yeah,
I know why they don't want they don't want you
to know, right. So I had to break down. My
wife saw it. I was spilling out a lot of information.
Oh I found this, Oh I learned that, and you know,
I was just spewing everything right, stuff that I couldn't
even explain. And my wife got scared. She got scared.
(22:17):
She was like, my fiance just lost it. And I
don't blame her, but she was supportive. She was like,
he's going through something, you know. I talked to my
to my mother, and I told her, you know, hey,
this is what's happening here. She thought I joined the cult.
She thought I joined the cult. She thought that I was,
(22:39):
you know what a lot of probably folks that come
on and show things that I was possessed or some
you know, all these different things, and I'm like, no,
it's just I'm waking up. I'm breaking out, you know.
And So how I got through it was through continuing
reading that information, that same information. I started realizing that
(23:00):
a lot of that literature was talking about how powerful
I am, how powerful I am, you know, if we
were made an image of something. What they're what they're
saying is is is I'm like you you're like, you know,
you're like me, you know, so yeah, So I just
(23:23):
stuck with that and just say, okay, something, I'm greater
than what I'm told that I am. Now need to
go find out and prove that to myself. So that's
how I got out of it. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
I think a lot of people go through that experience
of like I said, some people call it breakdown, some
people call it breakthrough, where you know, it's just it's
overwhelming because you there's so much to take in at once,
(24:00):
and I think the other side of that can be
a chance for people to to it's almost like walking
into a fresh spring day, like everything is new, everything
is bright, green and pretty, and the air is fresh
(24:22):
and clean again. And that's sort of what it felt
like for me when I because I had that experience
too of just oh boy, and then you know, the
walls kind of come cracked and started coming grumbling, and
(24:42):
the more information that was coming in, the more I
was like ah, and then there was that aha moment
where you breathe, open your eyes and walk forward. And
it's very much like that in a sense of a
breakthrough experience for so many people when when you were
(25:10):
going through your this period, Obviously there were things that
crossed your mind at times. Did you did you have
any doubts about, oh my god, am I doing something
wrong here? Were there any any times when you were
(25:32):
questioning should you be researching this stuff?
Speaker 2 (25:39):
That's a great question, Daniel. No, I didn't have doubts
why because the information that I was reading resonated with me.
I knew it felt right. And talking from from this,
from this point, as I sit here with you, I
do understand that when when you know something but you
(26:03):
don't know why, it's because you remember, it's because you remember.
I have this understanding. And I don't call these things
a belief. I don't believe in certain things. I have
an understanding about certain things right, and my understanding is
that again, we are here to we are here to
(26:26):
remember we forgot. You know, a lot of people live
their life as humans trying to have this spiritual, you know, experience,
But it's the other way around. We're spiritual beings having
this human experience. Once I learned that, once I flip
that upside down, that changed my whole direction because I
(26:48):
was looking this way versus this way. Everything everybody that
everybody teaches you to look outside of yourself into the universe.
But what about the you inverse? You know, what about
the universe inside inside of you? No one ever, no
one ever talks to you about that. You know. If
you're sick, they tell you to go to a doctor.
(27:10):
Don't hear yourself. You don't know anything. If something's wrong
with you in your head, don't talk to yourself, you're crazy.
Talk to a therapist if you need help, guidance, talk
to God or whatever is out there outside of you,
you know. And I was like, why why is everything
(27:31):
outside of us? Like everything seemed like it was about
keeping us down, you know, making us you know. The
narrative was that you guys am my law to say
a curse word here. Sure, you guys aren't shit, you know,
you're nothing. And I'm like, how can we accept that?
(27:52):
Why do we accept that? You know, like a matter
of fact, who who said that was right? And I'm like,
it is everybody else that wrote history and whatnot. So
I will tell you this, Daniel, the first time that
I stepped out of my body, I that basically told
(28:14):
me religion to me when out of the door, h
that when you when you step out of this meet
to that. That's it period. There's nothing else to There's
nothing that religion can then talk about that from that
point on, once you step out of your body, now
(28:37):
it's up to you to explore. So that was a
breakthrough for me and I I just my first outer
body was last November or something like that, Like my
first out you know, outer body. That's it. That couldn't
That confirmed a lot of things for me. So that's
(28:59):
where I'm at today. Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
There's actually a movement that started, I think during the
fifties or sixties called Eckincar. Their whole thing is about
astro projection as they call it, leaving the body and
traveling to different worlds and so forth. And I always
found that very interesting. I discovered them when I was
(29:26):
probably about wow, fifteen sixteen years old. By that time,
I had already been doing this sort of thing, So
it seemed to me like interesting that a whole group
of people found this and had developed a whole following.
(29:50):
Do you believe in reincarnation?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
No, I don't. I believe incarnation incarnation, So reincarnation for folks,
it's just like what happened to Jesus is consciousness left
and then it reincarnated back into his to his meat suit. Right.
And if I'm offending anybody by calling the meat suit,
(30:16):
I apologize, But that's just kind of what I call
it these days. But incarnate, it's to take your consciousness
and transferred over to another body, another, another physical body.
And this is something that the ancients did with ease.
They never said, they never talked about. In my research,
(30:39):
no one ever said anything about reincarnation. The only time
that I ever heard reincarnation is in the Bible, you know,
But everything before that, it's always about transferring consciousness from
one vessel to another. And this is how they extended
their lives. And this was a normal thing. This is
why if you look at things like the Samerians kings lists,
(31:02):
you have a list of tons of kings that ruled
Mesopotamia for thousands of years, where one guy reigning for
eighteen thousand, one guy reigning for thirty six thousand years.
You're like, how do you do that? You know, and
(31:22):
they have things they talk about. If you read it
the Samerian texts and things like that, you'll you'll realize
that they had things like the halls of lamenting under
the pyramid of Giza, which they haven't found yet, but
they're going to find it pretty soon. And in there
there's these chambers where these these kings, these deities, these
(31:45):
on a Naki would rest their body, transfer the consciousness
to another body and continue ruling and their followers, their people.
They knew who that was, you know. So it's like,
you know, and it's something that a lot of species do,
but to us it's you know, it's it's new because
(32:06):
we haven't really we forgot how to do that, but
we've always been able to do that. So yeah, very interesting.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
I like the way you answered that when you when
you're talking about the thing like transferring consciousness. I think
that that is very much in line with how a
lot of people, what many people are calling reincarnation is
(32:41):
really the transferred consciousness. I think the misinterpretation of the
terminology is a little bit maybe problematic in a way.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
It's how people want to understand it. I mean, what's
I mean, what does re re anything mean? Right? To
do it, to do it again?
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Right?
Speaker 2 (33:06):
So like if you're watching a movie and you rewind it,
it's the same movie. You're just going back to a
certain point in that same movie when you rewind something.
You don't go to a different movie, it's the same movie,
so re stays within itself. So yeah, that's two words,
(33:28):
reincarnate and incarnate. So a lot of people drop the
incarnate because they don't talk about it. Everybody sticks to
the story. Oh well, Jesus reincarnated, so he came back. Well, okay, fine,
if we followed that narrative, yeah, he came back to
hit his body, But what about everybody else who didn't
come back to their body and just you know, they continued,
you know ruling.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah, it's very interesting too, because there's one of the
things that I've been following lately are like just random
reports of children who are remembering past lives. One of
them that I read was a young child I think
(34:13):
it was a little boy actually, that said that he
passed on nine to eleven in the towers, and this
little kid, who was like five six years old was
vividly describing the between towers things that he can possibly
(34:38):
know and you know about, and the imagery that he
was using and so forth. Was very interesting because it
was very convincing reading the story that he was definitely
having an experience that was very unique.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Uh, let me ask us Daniel regarding that boy, do
you think he reincarnated or or he incarnated?
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think he incarnated, right, he transferred basically from one
body to the next.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Uh So I find I find these stories very interesting,
and I find there was there was actually a case
where an entire town transcended and they all were basically
re reunited together through sharing their stories, and because people
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kept noticing their similarities. They all these people were talking
about the same town and they were giving specific details
about the town that all lined up, and so this
group of people finally joined together and we're like having
open communication about all this. And it turns out that
(36:10):
there was like a large number of these people who
were from this entire area. They all came back around
the same time period. So it was a very interesting
reading some of these stories. That's why I'm very, very
curious about your thoughts on on incarnation and the transfer
(36:33):
of consciousness. Yeah, and Pam is just throwing up all
kinds of good stuff here tonight.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Yeah. Hello, Pam.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
As always, Pam is your fan. She's the one who
suggested me having you on the show.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
So okay, I appreciate you, Pam, Thank you so much.
I do appreciate you she's doing.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
She definitely was, She's your your material. She's one of
probably the I would say, queen of the molds of
the podcast community.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Always on the ball with things always. What are your
thoughts on so you you talk about the anonarchy, explain
to us a little bit for those that don't know
who the anarchy are, what exactly we're talking about?
Speaker 2 (37:40):
Sure, so the anarchy they are. The anarchy is a word,
it's not it's not a race. So the anarchy is
basically anybody who came who's not from Earth. Okay, in
this timeframe, they were just called on a knocking uh.
So a lot of folks originally had that confused. They
(38:02):
thought that was a particular race. But there was just
a bunch of them and those that came from above
the anachi uh. In a short highlighted version, they came
from a planet called Nibiru. And this planet had it
a very large atmosphere and it was surrounded by gold.
(38:26):
I think gold was what reflected the Sun's the Sun's
rays or something like that, so I kept the planet
safe for something. I'm not too too sure they're but anyways,
their atmosphere that gold that was protecting their planets started
started going bad. Uh. They were having a lot of
(38:49):
earthquakes and volcano city situations going on on the planet
that was affecting it. So they ended up finding Earth.
There's a whole story how Earth became. But they found Earth,
they found there was a lot of gold here.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
So they ended up bringing a whole workforce here. It
was the Aronachi and their their workers, which was called
the Aggi. It was pretty much like the working class.
The Aronachi were like the foreman, and the gg were
like the workers, right. And they came here and they
(39:26):
were actually stationed first in Mars. And this is why
you hear a lot of stories about seeing a lot
of you know, pyramids and other sculptures in Mars because
of a whole situation that had that happened there. But
then also the other workforce was was on Earth in
(39:47):
a place in uh Africa called Adams Calendar. And if
you guys google Adams Calendar, you'll find that it is
the very first gold mine go figure. So you have
some of the remnants still there. And the Ajigi, the
working class, came here to just do a breakaway civilization
(40:08):
on Mars, and they worked their butts off for over
two hundred and fifty thousand years, and they obviously were
upset after a while. They're like, hey, we're like we're
being treated like slaves here. We're one of you, you know,
And they ended up wanting to rebel and do a mutiny.
(40:29):
So they came from Mars down to Earth. And this
is where you get the stories of these beings that
came from above, and they were going to basically destroy
what was going on on Earth, you know, with the
on Anaki that were here, the roal, the royals and
(40:50):
things like that. Anki and Lil were two of the
Annachi kings. They were the son of Anu. Anu was
like their their god, They're they're king, and they ended
up Enki, who was the wise and leader one, ended
up just saying like, hey, I don't want to need
(41:11):
any trouble. I get it. Let me try to find
a solution. So he remembered over all those thousands of
years there's this like bipedal hominid species running around on
the planet. He's like, hey, these I could probably do
something with this. So fast forward, they ended up retinkering
(41:32):
the genetic uh material in these in this species. Two
then impregnant one of their own, on Anaki, which was
you guys would know her in Egypt as Isis. And
she carried this this being for ten months in her wound.
(41:53):
And you'll see in the British Museum and other museums
like it in Germany there's a of Isis holding an
egg over her head saying I've done it. I've created
the first Adamu, which means in their language, the first man.
So anyways, you guys can find these stories. I don't
want to like bor you with all that stuff, but
(42:14):
there's all these fantastical stories that just kind of explain
what's going on. And these were written not by humans.
These were written by you know, if our history scientifically
says that humans were existed as far back as six
thousand years, then who wrote the stuff that was written
(42:36):
four hundred and fifty thousand years right, let's just give
it a name Aliens. All right, Well, I want to
talk to those guys. I want to read what they wrote.
So that's where I get my stories. And I apologize
if I actually went off on a different deal. I
forgot what your original question was, so sorry about that.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
That was very interesting. Uh. Fun. Everything that you're saying
very interesting because it's very much h It's in line
with some other things that I've heard and read and
believed over the years. It's also very interesting whenever you
(43:20):
bring up the the topic of isis which is our
whole new level of interest for for some of us,
every theology and every mind thought, mind set uh tends
(43:42):
to you have the goddess or the mother uh somewhere
in there. Uh, you know, And it's very interesting that, ah,
we all are here in the West in a very
(44:04):
male centric theology when in fact, again, I mean when
you think about it, creation itself takes place in a womb,
definitely not a male theology at all. So when when
(44:25):
we take when we bring in the thought of the goddess,
the thought of the female aspect, I think a lot
of people their their ears perk up a little bit.
They're like, ah, Okay, this sounds familiar. This is something
that I recognize. It's kind of a trigger. We understand
(44:47):
that that the old edge of which came first the
chicken or the egg. It's obviously the egg. I'm sorry,
there's a tendency for me to want to believe that
when the Christians talk about and I'm christ oh pagan,
(45:12):
so let me throw myself in that group talk about God.
I think one of the things that they that we
have a habit of tagging on there is that God
is male. We don't understand that God is actually spirit
and therefore, if you will, androgenous or of male and female,
(45:36):
because spirit doesn't really have a tinder that encompasses all
things essentially, and I think that's where a lot of
people fell and understanding sometimes what spirit really is. Spirit
is literally all things, and I think all things have spirit,
(46:02):
have a spiritual energy about it personally kind of where
I'm thinking. Anyway, let me let me ask you this
because I again not that by any means rock sort
of thing in my world, but I have a whole
stack of them here and over there. And what is
(46:24):
your thought on on crystals and crystal you sit in
your practice?
Speaker 2 (46:31):
Got crystals here? Crystal's here. I got a pretty cool
one up here too, this one, this one's kind of cool.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I have So I
do have crystals. What I I don't practice them. I
don't practice with them like other more you know, define
(46:54):
more refined individuals that have a method with them. I
do have them around. I have of you can't see
him above above my logo. I have a whole shelf
full of Egyptian statues, and I have crystal pyramids and
things like that that absorb, uh, you know, negative energy
and things like things like that. But I have seen
(47:16):
my crystals glow when when I'm when I'm out of
my body, they do glow. So they are they are
every single one of them is sentient. So a lot
of folks have a hard time believing that. But wait,
somebody said, caes are you saying deities like on Anaki
(47:38):
are not a race? That's correct, And on Anaki is
just an encompassing word for what we call today an alien.
That's I hope that answers your question there without going
too much detail. So on Anaki is in one race.
They don't look one way. They're just you know, those
(47:58):
who came from above period. Yeah. But yeah, I've seen
my crystals glow and they are sentient, and a lot
of people have a hard time understanding that. Another thing
that people probably have a hard time is something that
I'm about to say is that I tell folks with
(48:21):
full confidence that now listening carefully. I am a god.
I am a god. I'm not saying I'm god. I
just say I am a god. Why does Caesar say that?
I say that because from my understanding, from what I've seen,
from what I've experienced, let's just go with Let's just
go with that. I have that divine spark, even if
(48:44):
it's in the pinky of my finger, that's enough to
make me a god. And if for those people who
believe or have the understanding that we are part of source,
if I'm part of Source, then I am sourced. Right
(49:05):
if you look at it at an ocean and you
have a cup of water, So if you have a
cup standing on the coast, and if I take that cup,
grab some of that ocean in there, is that water
inside the cup still part of the ocean or is
it its own individual thing? That's up to you, right,
that's up to you to understand that. But the way
(49:25):
Caesar understands that is that I'm part of the ocean.
Doesn't matter where I'm at, it doesn't matter what container,
doesn't matter if that drop was taken ten miles down
the way. I'm still part of that ocean, you know.
And rivers rivers flow always back to the ocean, right
you know. So if our life is like a river,
(49:45):
even though it's leanar and things like that doesn't have
all you well you could say some people can say
it has curves, right you know. Either way, we all,
we all, we came from somewhere and we flow right
back to it. So my understanding, I know this is
probably not even anywhere to what to what you were asking, Daniel,
But my understanding is is that we came here to
(50:10):
experience what we're not. Just think about that for one second.
We came here to experience what we are not. So
if we are these omnipotent, godlike creator beings, which is
what we are, in order to understand what we are
and who we are in totality, we have to experience
what we're not. We have to be able to die,
(50:32):
to suffer, to cry, to get angry, to have these
human like experiences. And then when this meets suit expires,
because it will, we don't just cease to exist. We
go back to our original state with more information, data collected,
(50:52):
mission accomplished. I'll stop there.
Speaker 1 (50:58):
This is very true, and that is what I was
thinking about the whole thing about spirit is is is all,
and all is connected together in that sense personally, that's
kind of what I feel how I feel it. And
you're right, you're at your analogy of the ocean and
(51:22):
taking a couple of water out of it. It does
not necessarily negate that that cup of water isn't it
is an individual entity. You know. Again, it's according to
your perspective on that is still part of the ocean.
It still came from the source of the ocean. So
(51:43):
therefore you can't divide it too far from what it is.
You know, you taste it, it's going to taste like
the ocean.
Speaker 2 (51:54):
I mean, you said it, Daniel, you know, I mean
a lot of people, a lot. And the beautiful thing
is that while we're having this human experience we're gonna question,
there's people that completely just don't it goes over their
head what we just said, and guess what, you're not wrong,
that's okay, it is absolutely okay. The beautiful thing about this, Daniel,
(52:17):
is that, to my understanding, is that when for everybody
that has forgotten what they are because they're having this
experience and this intentional experience. So it's not it's not wrong,
but everything that you are arguing or disagreeing or don't understand,
It's okay because when you leave this realm, you go
(52:42):
back to remember you're like, ah, man, you know we
came here the intention, the creation of this construct was
made for you to forget. This was created for that intention,
for this experience. So we're doing exactly what we signed
up for. Okay. So when we came here, we willingly
(53:07):
because again we're we're omnipotent beings. We can't be controlled,
we can't be manipulated. There's no judgment, like we are
creator beings. So we made a conscious choice to come
here and have this experience.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
We definitely did, absolutely, And some people talk about soul contract,
which I'm not sure how I feel about that, but
I feel like even I love it when somebody says, well,
it's just a baby, nobody asked to butt them, Like, really,
are you sure? Can you prove that we didn't ask
(53:49):
for this?
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Yeah? Yeah, I do. Hear a lot about the Accashic
records and things like that and people that can tap
into it. I've had guests too that can tap into that.
So what go to a comment that I made about
now that I can leave my body and I've only
done it for four times. I don't want anybody to
(54:14):
get confused like I do it every every day. There's
a whole process to to to this. But one of
my targets is this so called Acasiak records. M hmm.
I hear about it. I hear, I hear people talk
about it. But now that I can leave my body,
now that I'm not limited to this body, I'm going
(54:38):
to go look period, end of conversation. That's it. So
when I see that for myself, I'll let you Daniel, No, hey,
I put eyes on it, I saw it, I touched it. Yep,
there is a thing. Now I move on to the
next thing, you know. So that's how I work in
(54:59):
my underst down in my research.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
That's that's very good and it's very true. I think,
do you find that because you're right, there is our
whole process today. It's not like we just like decide, oh,
I think I want to step out and go for
a journey today. And it's not one of those things
where you can just like boom instantly do the thing.
(55:26):
Like you said, there is a process.
Speaker 2 (55:30):
Well, it's not a it's not a hard process to
where it's only I can do it. The folks can
do it. Everybody can do it. There is a process
you have to understand how to do some something. But
once you do it, for some folks more than others, Daniel, Yeah,
they can just slip out, you know, uh the first
time that you know do let me tell you my
(55:54):
first experience. Sure, okay, just kind of give some con
some context on it. I researched. I looked around finding
out what everybody else is doing. You know, who's who
has the better dummy down version of you know, of
whatever the case is. And uh, it led me into
(56:14):
Darius J. Wright. You heard that name, mhm Okay, a
lot of us have, right, So it led me into
into into him. And and I've study his method, all right,
this guy knows something. And I studied for probably I
studied his particular method, just his for about nine nine
(56:39):
ten months last year. And no success, no success, frustration,
just like what am I doing? Like this is ridiculous.
Then I had to kind of reprogram my mind things
like that. So that's part of a process too. In No,
(56:59):
in November, towards the end of November, a little bit
after Thanksgiving of last year, I was it was probably
about like five point thirty six o'clock in the morning.
And when you wake up, you don't really have a
whole lot on your mind. You just kind of woke up.
You're kind of just like peaceful, relax, right, that's the
(57:20):
best time to do it because you're not distracted with
the day to day. So I woke up a little
earlier than my wife. My wife was sleeping to the
left of me, and I was like, let me just,
you know, try to go ahead and go do my
breathing exercises. Bring down my electric magnetic field down to
a certain level so I can slip out. That's the idea,
(57:42):
And the key thing is is my intention? What am
I trying to do here? I just said, I just
want to just step out.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
You know.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
So anyways, I was doing it probably for about I
would say, roughly about forty five minutes or so, and
then my wife started to kind of wake up, sheet
started to move and she started kind of moving around,
and I was like, oh my gosh. So I like
turned to my left to look at her and tell her, babe,
you know, please please give me like five minutes, like
like I feel like I'm almost there because I was
feeling these sensations and blah blah blah, and and she
(58:15):
just sat up completely ignored me, put on her slippers
or something, and then just went to the restroom. And
I'm like, wow, okay, you know, someone woke up grumpy, right,
And I had, But I noticed that when I was
looking to my left, I was looking to my left
and then down and I was like, what And you
(58:37):
fully conscious, you know the way I'm talking to you now,
I'm like, what's going on with that? And I looked
at my right peripheral down behind me, and I saw
something was laying and I turned my head just a
slight bit and I saw myself sleeping, and I was like,
oh shit. And as soon as I said oh shit,
I fell back into my body. I opened up my
(58:58):
physical eyes. I looked to my left. My wife was gone.
She was in the bathroom. So you can imagine my
joy at the moment. I'm like, I did it, like
I you know, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't know
when I did it, but I did it, you know.
So that was my first experience, and then from there
I took that understanding of what was happening to then
(59:20):
replicate it until I got better at it.
Speaker 1 (59:24):
Yeah, I think it's very important that people understand h
that you need to know the process, You need to
know what you're doing and how to go about doing it,
and that this is mhm, not to put fear into
(59:47):
it by any means, but that you know, this is
something that you don't just do lightly. That you have
to understand that there you you need to keep that
ca connection with your body and not disconnect completely from it.
(01:00:07):
Some of us call it the crystal chord lining or
the crystal chord that connects you to the body. You know,
you always want to have that map back and one
of the reasons for that is because if you don't,
you know, there are some people who may not be
able to reconnect if they do this.
Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Do you mind if I add something to that to
that comment? Sure, So, again just from my personal experience,
there is there is no chord okay you and no
matter how far you go away from the body, you
actually want to get away from your body, okay, because
(01:00:51):
you're not dead. So that electric magnetic field is is
heavy in my In my second O b E, I
was I was separating from my body through my through
my right arm and it was tough, like I was
(01:01:13):
yanking and yanking, and it looked like it was like goo,
like a spiritual goo, not actual like context like drip
dripping go. It was like just like kind of like
gum stuck on something right and and uh, but there
is no there is no no cored. And that electric
(01:01:33):
magnetic field that that is around our body, that is
coming from your heart as long as your heart is beating,
you know, like when you're in the hospital. You see
the movies where the it goes the flat flat line,
that electric magnet field, that's that feel that the machine
is picking up. When it's gone, you slip out, you
(01:01:54):
you you, you leave. So controlled outer body is what
is what I do and a lot of a lot
of friends of mine do. And we lower our electric
magnetic field, just like the Earth has an electric magnetic field,
which is the result of gravity. It creates gravity. Everyone thinks, great,
gravity is this thing. No, gravity is the byproduct of
(01:02:17):
the electric magnetic field. So we have the same around
our body. And that's what keeps our energy, our soul,
what animates us. When this thing, when this awareness leaves us,
we're like this okay, And this is why this is
why we go I used to go into sleep paralysis.
(01:02:40):
I don't anymore. But the reason that we go to
sleep paralysis is kind of like a security measure for
our bodies, so it doesn't hurt itself, okay, because it
doesn't know what's happening, you know. So if you're doing
this is like, well, some folks like when they're dreaming
and things like that. Imagine somebody, Imagine if your wife
(01:03:01):
or girlfriend or whoever was dreaming and she starts like
flaying around and kicking and everything because she's dreaming about
This is why our body goes into sleep processes. But anyways,
at that point, that's when you leave your body and
there is no chord. I'm sorry. That's what I was
trying to tell you, Daniel, there is no chord. And
also the fear state, I too believed. I was skeptical.
(01:03:24):
I'm like, what am I going to see? Well, Daniel,
I got over that because I understand where we're from.
We're from an we're from an unconditional space, pure love. Okay,
And all you hear is people talking about demonic beings
and entities and blah blah blah. But Daniel, I gotta
(01:03:47):
tell you a lot of people that talk about that,
they don't know what an actual demonic being is. All right,
So here's my understanding what demonic being is if you
if you don't mind, So, if we're all everything from
unconditional love, like like true source, right, a negative entity,
a negative being and a negative soul has gone so
(01:04:10):
far away from that love that it becomes dark. And
why is it that these dark entities are always attacking
these these bright lights Because they're trying to find their
way back home. So if you don't let them back in.
And when I say in, folks don't get confused with
(01:04:33):
like put, you know, put possession and things like that
I'm talking about. If you don't help the negative entity
back in, then where else will it turn to? Just
think about that. I've had friends who have we've talked
about this and they realize this and when they when
they leave their body and they encounter a negative being,
(01:04:56):
they bring it in Because you are a gateway back
to the light, back to source. So as long as
you you you shine bright, and you believe and you
know what you truly are, nothing can hurt you. Nothing
(01:05:17):
can hurt you. So once you understand that, that's when
you can go ahead and start taking steps into having
an outer body experience, because the moment that you think
that something's gonna hurt you, it will. It will not eternally,
but temporarily because you're in a fierce state. So that's
(01:05:37):
very hard to get over, I'll admit that. But once
you know, I've seen some things outside of my body
that I didn't understand. Now I see them and and
it they're they're they're beautiful, They're beautiful.
Speaker 1 (01:05:51):
So there's definitely an intensity and or intensified, intensified sensation sense, sensory.
But I guess that's what I'm trying to say, mm hmm,
(01:06:12):
regarding what once you step outside your body, like, things
smell more intensely sweet almost in a sense, the colors
are more vivid, sounds are more pure and less less
(01:06:33):
some less filtered, I guess is a good way of
putting it. So it is definitely more a less strained,
a less less less filtered experience all the way around,
because when you're looking through the physical realm, there is
(01:06:56):
a lot of I mean there we require braining itvity
to tell us what we're seeing and so forth. You
don't get that on the spiritual level. So it's definitely
different in that sense.
Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Yeah, and Daniel Mike, he's asking, what do I listen?
Do you listen? You listen to frequencies when you meditate
if you're if you're asking, is he asking me?
Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
Or I think he's just asking in general?
Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Okay, I I used to, but I'm not. I'm not
meditating just by the way, I don't. I meditate, but
I don't listen to frequencies when I meditate. I use
my own voice because of my understanding. In short, I
understand how powerful my voice is. So your voice can
(01:07:44):
actually heal you. So if you're if you're if you're
wondering more about that, you can look into that or
you can you know, email me or something like that.
But I understand that, So I don't use frequencies too
ought to often. But yeah, so I like and oh
(01:08:05):
you know a lot for for that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Yeah, I tend to do the same thing I use,
Like I'll chant mm hmm, a mantra to do if
I'm want to do meditation. Uh. One of the one
of the mantras I really enjoy uh to chant is
the higher Christiana mantra, which a lot of people find
(01:08:33):
that kind of amusing. But the rhythm of it and
the sound of it to me helps me connect, I guess,
is the way I want to put it a little
bit more if I'm managing meditation. But again, when it
comes to h the whole idea of preparing to lead
(01:08:57):
the body and so forth, I really don't use sounds
so much for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I use I Well, I still do. I'll tell
you that I still use a blackout mask because I
really want to just you know, really see my own light.
And you know what's funny is because of the whole
leaving the body, once you leave the body, your frequency
(01:09:27):
change changes. It doesn't go back. It's you know, and uh,
that actually allowed me to even open up my my
mind's my mind sight and folks, I think folks call
that like your third eye and things like that. But
either way, so now when I put on blindfolds, I
(01:09:49):
can see without my physical eyes. And that, to be honest, Daniel,
that that threw me back. That threw me back because
I just couldn't make sense of it. I knew I
heard people doing it. I just you know, but it's
(01:10:10):
part of my exploration. I'm like, well, it done. The
outer body. There's a whole lot there that there's so
many stories I have with that. And then when the
mind side opened up, I just sit in darkness with
my blindfold, just like, all right, well, you know, I
understand there's a process to this, and I just wasn't believing.
(01:10:32):
I wasn't believing that I could do it. And a
lot of folks don't realize this, Daniel, But we actually,
to my understanding, we actually see not only through our eyes,
our physical eyes, but we also see through our skin.
It's something that I recently came across called dermal vision.
And we have our eyes here and here, but you
(01:10:57):
don't really ever see your nose. It's it's it's in
front of your face, but you don't ever see it.
You know, every now and then you don't realize when.
But we actually are seeing also through the bridge of
our of our of our nose. This is how we
get that complete one one look. But no one ever
talks to you about that, no one ever mentions anything
(01:11:19):
about that. So when I was opening up my mind sight,
I realized that no, I'm not seen with my eyes,
but I'm seeing through uh, through my through the bridge
of my nose. And that was something that I had
to get used to.
Speaker 1 (01:11:35):
I guess it really depends on the average person probably
doesn't ever see their nose. I have kind of a
big schnoz, so I can see a lot of my nose.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Well, is that when you cross your eyes?
Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
No, like I'm dying about right now, like even really
I have. I have what we call a Roman nose.
I inherited that from my French Canadian side of my family.
Lay in It's it's pretty.
Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Prettymant okay and understood. I didn't know that. But I
think you look.
Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
Fine, awesome, Thank you. We're We're just past the hour mark.
I would like to if I could get your final
thoughts for tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
Final thoughts. Wow, yeah, just remember, you know, continue to
have these conversations with like minded folks, pick their pick
their brains, no matter how fantastical it sounds. We're in
I think we're in an age now, in a time
(01:12:46):
where we're not talking about these things in a closet.
You know, we're out out there openly talking. There's folks,
there's platforms available have the conversations because you know, like you,
I'm an explorer physical and also outer body, and everybody
(01:13:07):
is experiencing this realm just like you are having this
human experience, but everybody is experiencing it differently. So in
nord to get an understanding of the big picture, the
big puzzle, you gotta be able to like find the
little pieces first, right, talk to the little pieces to
then be able to step back and say, Hey, somewhere
(01:13:28):
between this and this, there's a common thread. There's a
truth here. And if that truth resonates with you, I
guarantee you'll you'll, you'll you'll be exploring even even further.
You know, But talk to people and question everything, Question everything.
(01:13:48):
Don't just stick. Don't even believe anything that I said
on this episode. Don't believe anything that I said. Go
do it yourself. Go go out of by do you
go open your mind? You know you can do all
of this and uh, and I believe you guys can.
And I guess the last thing I would say is,
(01:14:10):
like my outro, I say, I love you, I see you,
I hear you, I am.
Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
You one, I appreciate you, and I'm glad that you
came on tonight. Thank you very much for that. If
you will hang back for just a moment, I'm going
to close this out and I will be right back
(01:14:36):
with you all right. So I don't know about you, guys,
but I learned a lot of good stuff tonight, and
it was a refresher in some ways for some stuff
that I had almost forgotten. To be honest with you,
(01:14:59):
as older, that sense of remembering all those things, pass
those down doesn't thank you, guys for joining us. I
would like to also say, if you made it this far,
leave us a comment about what you thought about tonight's show.
(01:15:21):
If there was a concept that we covered tonight that
resonated with you or that you felt strongly about, let's
hear about that. I want to invite you guys back
next week with my guest, Ron Moorehead. If you don't
know who he is, let me fill you in. He
(01:15:42):
is the man responsible for the famous recording of the
CRS Sounds, among other things. So yes, next week we
will be talking about the cryptids again, in particular Bigfoot.
So like to see some of you smiling faces, Jenny,
(01:16:07):
some of you guys, some of my mom's. I definitely
expect to see you there next week. Uh And as
always in your journey, always be magical, waiting for.
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
So long to see when you come back to me.
Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
Through the walls and battles.
Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
That were lost, we're all again as you and me.
The rest is history, to be danced together in different
(01:17:11):
still fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
How to end.
Speaker 4 (01:17:15):
We must have been loved, We must have been so
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