Unmasking Sasquatch_ Sierra Sounds Revealed

Could Bigfoot be more than just a creature in the woods? What if it’s a being that defies the laws of reality itself? In this mind-bending episode of Magical Journey Podcast: Between Worlds, legendary Bigfoot researcher Ron Morehead joins us to discuss the infamous Sierra Sounds — the most compelling audio evidence of Sasquatch ever captured. But this is no ordinary cryptid encounter. We dive deep into Morehead’s groundbreaking Quantum Bigfoot theory, exploring how interdimensional travel, consciousness, and frequency-based communication may explain Bigfoot’s elusiveness. From unexplained vocalizations in the Sierra Nevada Mountains to the possibility of Sasquatch as a non-linear, multidimensional being, this episode redefines everything you thought you knew about cryptids. 🔊 Topics include: The real story behind the Sierra Sounds Why Bigfoot might be an interdimensional entity The fusion of quantum physics and the paranormal Suppressed knowledge and government silence What these sounds tell us about the nature of reality itself Whether you’re a seasoned researcher or a curious skeptic, this conversation with Ron Morehead will leave you questioning the boundaries between science, myth, and the unknown.

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(03:16):
been working on this show for almost a year now,
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ladies and gentlemen, I want to give you. Are you

(03:41):
ready for this? Mister Ron moorehead?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Thank you, DaLie?

Speaker 1 (03:50):
How are you doing tonight? Sir?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I'm doing well? Thank you great the way you.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Thank you for coming on the show. I you know,
I'm going to tell you, like the first time I
ever heard of your experience and your name, it just
literally just rocked my world. So I feel like there's
a lot of people, Hey, James, how are you. There's
a lot of people that are going to be watching

(04:16):
this tonight that I feel like you're probably going to
be in the same position. So before we get started,
just if you will give us a couple of things here.
First of all, for those that may not know you,
tell us a little bit about yourself and tell us
about anything you would like to promote, books, shows, documentary.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
I do that later in the show, I have to
hear me. Maybe they want to buy them then, I
don't know. I am Ron Morehead, I'm producer of the
cer sounds. I experience these beings re gollpic but sasquash
during the seven Ages and onward from there. So able
to small h group deep in the Sair Mountains of California,

(05:02):
about eighty four hundred feet elevation, eight miles into wilderness,
very imposing, airy to get to, but once you get there,
you're all long, and it's really so we started taking
tape records in because we've experienced. There's about six of
us at the time, only five left and one guy
we can go back. It's kind of freaked them out
when he heard the sounds, but the sounds of we

(05:22):
were hearing were interactive sounds with each other, and then
you hear them chattering, similar to other reports I've heard
since then. But that's how it got started with me
in nineteen seventy one, and really a lot of strange
things went on up there besides just the sounds and
the recordings and all that. We took an investigative reporter

(05:44):
in nineteen seventy two who had a master's degree in science,
who actually thought he's going to do a hoax because
this continual interaction just doesn't really happen too often. The
people we were having it up there and started happening
when he was there, and he took his little tape
recorder cassettes. That's all we had, cassette tape recorders and

(06:07):
battery operated and so anyway, he went in and started
experienced the same thing, got them all and he got
some recordings out there. And that was nineteen seventy two
when he first went in. Name was Alan Barry and
he's actually the man who fostered the studies at the
University of the tapes. Having a science degree, he knew
we had to get the professionals hid it, whether they

(06:29):
approved it as a hoax or prove it wasn't real,
or prove it was real. He got a doctor, Lynn Curlin.
I only studied them for a year unbiasedly and just
telling him is it real or not? You coudn't find
any sixty second home no way. These things were speed
up or slowed down. And I actually saw where they
were inside, outside, above and below the average human range,

(06:52):
and that was a big deal. He presented that to
the Anthropology Unknown and British Club in nineteen seventy eight.
I think it was he wrote a paper on it.
It's in a book meant like monsters on trial. He
shows a graph in there where there are tones went
a little how it showed where they go and represented
an animal rate foot tall one a little bit. Did

(07:13):
so because we knew they were big from the sizeable
tracks they were leaving. But to have that confirmed by
sciences is very important. I think it wasn't until two
thousand and eight when a crypto linguist from the Navy
retired as a crypto language. His name is Scott Nelson.
He was a two time graduate of the Foreign Language

(07:34):
Institute in Monterey and trained by the Navy to listen
to unknown sounds, unknown whatever, figured out it was a
code or a language, or what if it was a language,
to transcribe it. I don't mean translate. That means transcribe it,
which which defines if it's a language or not. That
mean a warphing stream of words. And he got them,

(07:54):
and he got a hold of them, and he came
back say these things have a language. So he came
out inter viewed Albury and myself both to get the
context of that all the way from Missouri where he
was retired as he was teaching school in college, foreign
languages and different things. So anyway, that was a big step.
But still academia didn't recognize doctor Curran's work, even though

(08:18):
he's written over one hundred papers and very credible, or
Scott Nelson's, because the academia seems to have their mind
made up of what they think these things have to be.
They have to be a remnant of the antipithecus or
a remnant of something else. They have to be just
an ape cut loose from zoo or something. They can't
do all. That's what we're saying here is they could

(08:41):
talk like we're talking now, and that's sapient speech. Nothing
else on this planet, supposedly, according to doctor Philip Lieberman
and Brown University, can do just that. Only humans have
the mechanism in their throat through their tongue rises in
the brain, so we can talk and say in numerable
amount of words with a vocal mechanism, and only humans

(09:04):
have that. According to him, he's a cognitary research sciences
was So you put all those things, three things together
and what we ran into up there, way up the mountains.
I have a human component and I've kind of concluded
that from these different factors I just mentioned that got
me started, and that was nineteen seventy one. But again,
there was thing as I went on up there which

(09:26):
was very unusual, and we had to question own brains
to see if it really happened or not. But it
was all experience in lights and different sounds that were
related to Bigfoot at all. And so it got me
into I'll bury me a master's degree in science. He says,
whatever you do, you got to stay with science when
you talk about this stuff. Don't talk about the strange stuff.

(09:48):
Don't know what's going to want to talk to you
at all. So anyway, I didn't for a long time,
and I have the last few years. I started talking
about it because I think it fits into so many
reports I've been hearing over the decade of the research
that I've been doing. And I've been all over the
world in perub and Siberia, I've been Russia into Nepal,

(10:10):
just all over looking at different factors that different ones
have at different places, and I think there's been a
very well this is really deep because it set me
on a journey. And originally we were thinking they're just
a loss ab out that woods somewhere, you know. We didn't.

(10:31):
We was looking just like most researchers do for the
ape out there, and they're more than that, a lot
more than that. And I've written three books about it
and it's gotten to be very very popular subject now
because what I'm saying, I think is ringing into people's
ears understanding some of the things, and anyway, that's where

(10:55):
that's how I got started with me and I've been
on it ever since. So there's a lot of things
is going on right now, and I think it's important
people realize what these things could be and what I
think what this information has brought to me as as
a person. I was raised religiously, but I found out
that we're not very religious. We're spiritual beings. Where we

(11:16):
want to believe that or not, we're all spiritual beings
with two parts to our bodyment. We've got our biological body,
but well we've got an ethereal body, which is a
spiritual body. And the science I got into says energy,
which we're made of at the most minute level, can die,
so that kind of puts its synonymous with quantum physics.

(11:37):
And like Tesla said, well one man calls a god
and no man calls us laws of physics. Well that's
pretty good because really some of the stuff that went
on there can be answered by Newtonian physics, which were
all brain works with from fifth grade on. I think
in the sixteen eighty seven laws, which apply only in
a third density environment, are what's going on. No, there's

(12:01):
more going on that you just don't see. We only
see and feel with our senses, and we've got those
five senses that we think of everything is made from.
But no, everything's not measurable, predictable, or material or physical.
It's just not the way it is according to physics,
you get other dimensions. I know that things exist out
there outside of our parameters that we've been trained to think.

(12:23):
And so I call that our third density, which we're
on a linear time here and we think we are anyway,
and I call that where we're at right now is
just trying to understand more. And I think it's important,
and especially there's times that we're at where the world
the way it is, the way things are going, and
where UFOs are being seen, or bigfoots are being seen,

(12:46):
and just a lot of things are being seen and
are not being explained satisfactory to a lot of people.
But I think if we get into studying like I
have because race religiously, I was in the Bible a lot,
and I started getting into that, but the Bible just
wasn't give me everything I needed. It just found out

(13:07):
that there it's been filtered through a lot of men,
a lot of men who wanted power and who wanted control.
And I started from Constantine in through twenty six. Then
I seeing Creed going and decided, there's only four books
worth his religion is going to have. So I had
control the Matthew, Mark, and John, the only four Bible

(13:29):
of script Bible chapters that were part of what priv
religion was. Well, it became the Holy Roman Catholic Church
later on a couple of hundred years later, not even
that long really, and so we've been indocunated with religion,
and unfortunately I have a problem with that because it's
a fear based and it's a control based and that's

(13:51):
because of the Romans. And really you get into the
Mesbatanian text, which I went in Samarian codes way back
in years ago, I started studying you know where we're
The oldest known language, written language known to mand was
a Kunaflum texts given to the Samarians who chopped it
down and stamped into stone. Let those clay tablets dry.

(14:17):
And there's been thousands of a found now and they're
being interpreted now and read and you find out where
how it correlates with so much religion, Like get the
first few chapters of Genesis and you can find out
what we think it took place in six days, took
hundreds of thousands of years, and it just goes on
and on and you find out where the brothers were

(14:39):
stuff like that. You know, just wow, always your eyes up.
I mean, you're going to Peru and believe you, like
I've been seeing the structures that you see down there.
You realize that a lot of on this planet that
that we didn't know about, this absolutely above us. And
I've been into some of these tombs, and I've been

(15:00):
into a lot of things that defy normal explanation in
our Detonian thinking. So anyway, we live in a third
density and that's just what we're made for. But we're
made here when we're here for our experiences that nothing's
supposed to interfere with that. However, these things we're interfering
with us up there at the camp, and I think

(15:24):
they were trying to say something to me. I'm sure
they were the questions, but I never knew what it was.
I was just mocking them, mimicking them. I wouldn't mocking them.
They started interacting with I put that out on the
CD in nineteen seventy four. That happened nineteen seventy four.
I produced a CD later which is available now on
my website, and it's my interaction with them and their language,

(15:46):
and they were chattering, very similar to other reports I've
heard since then, including Albert Osman who was captive up
in Canada for six days nineteen twenty four. I think
it was he was interviewed by John Green and he
said he was there for six days. People find that
incredible his story, because they're not just so much stuff.

(16:08):
I flew up there on my plane and grew over
there looking for the bowl that he said he was
captured and carried away into. Never could find it, though
I had a helicopter and standby and camel River and
ready to drop us in there to look for snuff
cans or whatever might have been there or anything we
can find. Didn't find it, though, so I almost hit

(16:30):
a bear on the runway though. Anyway, I spent a
lot of time searching that and he landed back on
the riverbed. And it's quite an adventure looking into all
this stuff. But he said they were chattering amongst themselves,
family for two adults and two adolescents. And the chattering

(16:54):
where he claims that we're talking to each other, basically
chattering to each other. That's what we had up there
to see camp these things are chattering to each other.
That can be that can be duplicated. You know, some
people say they can make those sounds, well they can
make some of the sounds share because it's in our range,
but it's outside our range also, and so you get

(17:15):
into the language part, and that's significant, really significant. Yeah,
and so it's kind of carried me through this whole
loop of what we're all about, because if they've got
a human component, we really underside who we are as
humans and where we come from, what a we're here for. Well,
you get into the Mesopotaanean text, and then excuse me,
the Samerian texts Mesispania, and you find out that the

(17:38):
oldest language Church has discovered, written around Samarians, did around
thirty four hundred fifty PCE. And you find that a
lot of things in there are telling you stuff that
you never knew. But it correlates with so much that's
been transcribed or translated to human head up here, which
everything has been conditioned up here to believe certain things.

(18:00):
And you were told when you were little, you know
this is right and that's wrong. That's what you're going
to believe until you learn something different. So I ask
people to just keep their heads tremlark a para shoes.
If it don't open, it's not going to be much good.
So you got to open it. But you do that
from your heart. I think your heart has a brain

(18:21):
fed by the pinial gland, which is inside your head,
inside your inside your brain or a milion rain outside
of a p I guess, and it gets calcified from
the diets and from things that we do on this planet.
And so if you clean that up and listen to that,
because it has direct connection into the heart, which has
a brain, that heart tells you upper what this thing

(18:43):
on your shoulders, what to do in this has always
been trained and if you started listening to that, it's
kind of got feeling. I retort to you like that,
and you get that you really need to go by
that because that's what's right for you, no matter what
your brain wants. To analyze it and take a turn.
I know that old lady didn't need help, but maybe
maybe your heart said she did. So it's a lot

(19:07):
of fun what what I've delved into, and I encourage
anybody to do their own homework. Do it. But we're
here on this planet our ceilings for the experience, and
more important than the experience itself is how you respond
to the experience. If we respond with loving compassion, I
call the masters have been teaching us. I mean even
Buddha ta to you know, Christ taught it, some of

(19:31):
the teachings. Just because somebody you don't believe in said it,
that don't makes wrong. You got to analyze it and
see how you feel about it in your heart, not
your brain, but your heart. And that's where I go
with all this. So you know, shoot me a question anytime,
otherwise I'll just talk. And to talk.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
Take us back for a moment to the night when
you first heard the chatter. What was that moment that
you realized that you weren't quite hearing wildlive.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
I didn't realize at the time. I thought we were.
I thought it was just something. I didn't realize the
language factor was that big a deal. Uh, but it was.
And well, we're all inside the shelter and so hunting camps,
so we all heavily armed, and we didn't know what
we were dealing with the time, so we didn't know
if they were going to crash in after you or
some of the sounds were recorded are just phenomenally aggressive

(20:29):
and just makes you shake if you're not careful. But
we didn't shoot shoot and they never came in after us,
even though I felt they could have any time. And
I'm not sure our guns as much as we thought
we've bothered them, I don't know, you know. I think
when they're when they're in our our density, they have

(20:51):
to respond to our rules, their dimensional rules. I mean
as far as eating, pooping, everything they do, they hunt
to eat, they they what we eat. However, I think
they can step out of this through a frequency. As
you get into frequency, we're all about energy, frequency and vibration.
That's what we are. Everything that's existing is in it's

(21:14):
most minute levels, energy vibrating at a frequency. And Einstein said,
you find the frequency of anything, you change its matter.
Well that was a doctor. Paul Durach in nineteen thirty
three got the Nobel price or antimatter, that is the
directed change between energy and matter. And that's proven by

(21:35):
Cern in twenty twelve with a hydron collider when they
set a Parkle off and turn into energy at at
very high speed. So that's a fact, and it's something
that's just been proven. It's a fact and with theory
when Einstein said it. But I think that's how they
can disappear because some people say, well, well I saw

(21:57):
one disappear. The checkways that happened to me was I
didn't see disappear, but I found his trackway and it
just stopped. And my daughter had deciding that morning and
I found we found the trackway. And it's a matter
of matter and energy interchanging. You find a frequency of anything,

(22:18):
can change its matter. I think somehow they have the ability.
Some of them are not all the same. I got
to put that out there. They're not all the fame.
If you find the frequency, if they can find the
frequency change their matter or if they just made with it,
you know, because something made them. I think they've been
here longer than Homo sapiens. Well what we did, you

(22:40):
know up there was very unique and it was very
interesting and exciting. How I felt when I first started
hearing them was excitement. I didn't have the fear because
I knew they hadn't eaten the other guys yet. You know,
they got up there earlier and earlier, but yeah, week
or two earlier. It's when the Johnson were has experienced them,

(23:01):
and they came out and told everybody else, and I
went back up and anyway, I got involved with them.
I was friends with them all. So I had a
lot of interesting the trips with Alberry speaking all over
the planner with this stuff really and I had dinner
with the Senator of Moscow and spoke of a daughter

(23:26):
and museum in Moscow, and anyway, it's been exciting, and
I just I think we're on the preference of understanding
what these things are. They're here, they're not here to
help us. We're going to help ourselves with our reactions
to our experiences. And you can't be a victim of

(23:47):
anything you know, when something happens to you, you got
to take a different stride. I think you got to
treat everything as if it's good for you, because it
is good for you. I tell my grandkids when they're
playing football, you don't know, you didn't lose anything, or
we didn't win. Either win or you learn. You don't lose,
never lose the win, or you learn.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
So it's it's exciting, definitely. The Sierra Sounds recording is
famous for its complexity. What's the one sound from those
tapes that still gives you chills today?

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Oh? Nothing? For so many times? Well, no, it finds
a lot of animals, dollars especially were cowered down. I
sue someone's asking about my books and stuff. They're on
my website Ronmorehead dot com and actually figure my name

(24:48):
up there is that possible? That's my website? Yeah, there
you are, Rod Moorehead dot com. Uh and uh so
that will get people to my products. By three books
and I wrote My first book was Voices and Wilderness,
and there's been a documentary be remade on that now

(25:10):
by Renaissance, and I should be out later this year
maybe or early part of next year. They're doing a
real good job on It's gonna be over an hour long.
It's gonna be a movie. Actually, well I think, I'm
I'm not sure what's going to be. I haven't seen it,
but I trust these people. They're good people, and I
think they'll they'll do a wonderful job on it, and

(25:32):
they're going to be a lot of people, and I
think it's gonna open a lot of people's eyes through
what I'm saying here, because I'm not gonna saying this.
You know now that so many people have the experienced
they're all falling into this this rabbit hole that I'm in,
We're all experienced in some of this stuff. There's been
times when I thought we were inside that shelter up there,

(25:54):
and I thought our campus being tore apart, and we
all did and we look out there later, but nothing changed.
And had explained that, I had explained that all the
things that went on up there, right about some of
the stuff just mysteries. And I think has an answered everything.

(26:16):
There has to be an answered to everything. So that's
why I delve into all this. That's why I went
all the way into Mesopotaean to the Canampot text, because
it answers so many things I've wanted about even as
a child, you know, And it's raising religion. And I
found out that religion is basically are based on fear
and control, and that's we think that it's from point

(26:38):
all think. We know that's from the Romans who need
to control, and starting with Constantine. And it's just it's
just so many things we only see within certain parameters,
within certain frequency everything, even our eyesights of frequency. We've
seen me four and thirty seven and seventy terror hearts
that's our frequency for eyes. Our olfactory sense has a

(27:01):
different frequency. Our hearing. He had ultra sound and infestime.
We don't hear ultrasound. Dogs can hear infrasound. Big animals
use that for communication over long distances. And I've been
affected by those things. I think by ultratoime, I believe
up there, excuse me, infrasound, we got froze up there
on me and Warren Johnson was walking towards the tree

(27:24):
where we all one of these things had to be behind.
We was gonna see it run away, right, yeah, no,
And within about fifteen feet that big tree, and all
of a sudden we were just frozen. We couldn't go
up anymore. And he looked at me and so, I
don't know about you, but I can't go anymore. We
could walk back, and we did. We walked back into
the shelter. As soon as we got back in the shelter,

(27:44):
it started mouthing offering behind that tree. So we think
it just one. It just taught at something right there.
That happened to me again in the woods up there.
But it's a frequency they could send out. I think
our sound. I of course sound is at frequency. So uh,
maybe that's how they do. What they do is frequency constantly.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
And that kind of brings me to my next question
is you know, were there ever moments that you felt
generally just fearful and and uh unsafe in those environments?

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Did I fear fearful or safe?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
It was that you were fearful or felt as safe.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Oh, you know the three fifties have magnum on my side,
helps you, helps you control that a little bit. However,
I will say this, I've been up there without that,
and uh, fear is your only enemy. Fear is just
the absence of knowing. So I think if you understand

(28:50):
something or try to you don't have fear about it,
if you can understand it, because I tell that to
researchers especially are out in the woods with these things
and are they are, and they have their guns ready
to ready to shoot it one to get the big
dollar that moment from their life, you know. But I'll
never see one unless it's my accident. I tell people,

(29:12):
just control your fear, and your fear is your enemy.
And that's hard. It's easy to say, but I've been
up there by myself a couple of times now, three times. Specifically.
I don't like it. It's not fun, but I didn't
want fear, and I have to face to face it
sometimes his face, which you might be afraid of. And

(29:33):
I didn't know if i'd be afraid of their bone
itself or not. But I think there are in two
thousand and eleven by myself, this last chapter my voice
in the Womenes's book, and I had a guy schedule
to go with me, and he backed out because it's
it's not an easy journey you're going to walk in.
We walked in, but I wasn't gonna shape back then.

(29:53):
I was twenty nine years old, you know, just I
could take on the world right, nothing can hurt Nothing
gonna hurts you when you're that old. Uh So, anyway,
he didn't go I went up and went on out
because I had to find out if if I was
gonna be afraid or not. And also Scott Nelson, the
coup to linguist, and if they're with me three times

(30:14):
that year trying to capture some more sounds and they're
corborate what he had, and uh, nothing had happened, nothing definitively.
I just said nothing, nothing to really pin down, you know,
because things happened, but unless I got something corroborated to
go with it, I don't call it a big quot.
You can't call everything you think. Just because you don't

(30:36):
understand something, don't mean it's a big quot. People here
a knock on It would might be a woodpecker or
something that they think the knock around a tree or
you know, they this that and the other. And I
don't people ask me about tree structures and stuff like.
We didn't even look for that stuff up that. We
never saw any that were. But that's because they weren't

(30:57):
really looking for either. And we look correctly for the
deeper answer, the deeper answers, what are these things? How
they trick it so much because we thought we were
the smart guy on the block. But they're they're the
ones that's they've been given something by their creator. Because
we find out from the Annarchy, from the scriptures that

(31:18):
have got back into the oldest folk text and that
there's some elements that came down from the sky. They
call sky people, powerful ones from the sky. Satan was
even called a shiny one. You know. You get into
that stuff, and well does it get into the Nephelene,
the fallen ones that's called angels. In my opinion, they're

(31:41):
falling angels, follow fallen ones who decided to take on
the third density because they liked what was here. They
liked what God gave us to me eventually, but they
they like what's here, especially our women that carried the
Nephilem and the Nephilene where giants was did they get
this troyd who knows? You know, they say everything was

(32:02):
destroyed walked upon the face of the earth, but a
lot of things lived under the ground at that time,
and you get into some of those caves and turkey
and different things like that. And also one or years
later they were seen in uh north of the children
of Visra went the kind of that's all giants up

(32:25):
there come on a brain's gout of celibrial Francis.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
Let me ask you this. Do you think that sasquatch
is flesh and blood or more? It's kind of where
we're going in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
They are flesh and blood. They can be shot and
and Daniel Boone and hismanmore I said he shot one.
According to Fred Beck un sale and Helen's he said
he shot one fell off a never can find a
body though, So what happens to them? Then Ney Lore
says they take care of their own and then Navy

(33:10):
lore also says they live in two worlds. So are
they mentioned blood? Yeah, I think they are when they're
in our density, But when they step out of our
density through frequency, I believe that they can be more
than that. They can be seen pickles eyes, excuse me,
pixel eyes. That's why more see them disappear. Some people

(33:31):
I know, very credible people have saw them excuse me
in a state and just what is it? It's going
from one one density to another. And in fact I
was in that David Polaidi's missing for one that hunted
about fifteen minutes in that he did a real good
reproductive of light we saw going through our ten twenty

(33:54):
sixteen fior To and he also secret action after mind
there's a lady on there that's all one pixelizing between trees.
At the same time, there's UFO's being seen now at
the playground miles away by thirty thirty different kids people.
So there's something going on, and I think there's as

(34:16):
a connection between UFOs and Bigfoot. It could be that
they created them because some created us. We're hybrids. Everything's
a hybrid. So many hypersition program going on here because
so many different aliens have been on this planet that
mess with so many you knows, a different species. We
have no idea. You don't have any idea how much

(34:37):
is around you right now that your eyes just aren't
picking up me neither. You sometimes see them, and sometimes
you're when you're density lowers, and that's a nighttime when
the human residence takes effect, their density goes down to
eight and our our office state of arrest is about

(34:59):
eight hurts. So you get into that stuff like that
and you realize, you know, there's a there's a key
component there that seems to be common. And that's nighttime
durween two and four in the morning, when the earth
is settled down, Animals come out, things come out. You're relaxed,
you're not in your analytical mind anymore. You're just maybe

(35:22):
sometimes not quite asleep or totally into the data state
of sleep awareness. And and then that's when you can
pick things up. That's when Tesla picked things up, you know,
because that's when you hear from the source. The source.
What is the source? The source is God God right
in the text, I got to tell you not all

(35:44):
Anonochity are bad, just the ones that fell into our
density or did the wrong thing when they got here.
But they have changed their way. This. We're in a
warring world right now, warring society, warring density, and we
want to stroke up where ego. We want to win
by money, we want to get everything like that. None

(36:07):
that's really important, we think it is. But that's the
way we've been trained. We're all trained exactly.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
In your book The Quantum Bigfoot, you suggest that sasquatch
might operates outside the norm of reality. What first pushed
you toward that theory?

Speaker 2 (36:30):
The reports I've been having them disappearing, and how we
should have seen more of them. We got glimpses of
them occasionally up there, we should have seen more. There's
times I lay there in my sleeping bag inside that shelter,
me and the other guys, and you hear one crunching
outside right outside the shelter there, just a few feet away,
and you think you're going to see a shadow a

(36:53):
break that cracks in the log shelter we're in, and
you never saw that he had it went right by there.
I wonder sometimes if they weren't really just outside of
our realm of perception when we're up there, so that
means they can they can do things that we don't understand.
But there's a lot of things we don't understand that
we've got to try to understand more. Who were made

(37:14):
to be like and why we were changed. We've been
changed because our telomeres have been clipped off. Who only
lived so long? Our DNA has been altered. Some of
these things I don't I think if we can ever
get to understand. But I think they've been longer than us.
I think they were made prior to us by alien
intervention in the Genoma. Chocolate Ie and I just that

(37:39):
makes sense to me and a lot of them now
all these eons of time a crossbed with indigenous people,
which means that twenty three pairs of chromosome, And that's interesting.
And that's what I think the Patterson Bigfoot is, and
that's what a lot of people were seeing as a hybrid.

(38:00):
When it's diluted down, I call it dilution. It's been
diluted down into being more human like, and that means
they've maybe some of their attribute have been attributes have
been depressed or recessed. And uh, anyway, there's something still
to watch for it because I tell people, keep you
a flag out because you don't know the intent of

(38:22):
what are you dealing with. We didn't know that up there,
so we always always went in armed. And some of
that arm though, Like I went in with a thirty
eight one time, just a little pea shooter with the
snake clothes in it, so you could scare a bear off.
There's a lot of bear up there too, and that
will easily scare them off and shoot them in the

(38:43):
butts or getting your food or something else. So anyway,
there's other things besides that too. I got a hat
band with a nine and a half nine and a
half rattlers on it. When rattlesnake was shot up there,
I boasted. I held the mule while that happened, when

(39:03):
it cut its head off, very we I picked the
rattlesnake because I want to keep the skin, and it
just wrapped itself around my army fifty role. That's a
weird feeling, you know. Yea, how happened? It's something else,
a weirder. I didn't know what could happen, but it
did happen. In my yard, my ranch down in California.

(39:26):
There's a baby rattlesnake out there. The dog let us
know about, and we went out there and looked at it,
and I got the hole and chopped its head off.
I got my grandkids are there too, and so anyway,
I I started from my knock out just to play
with it a little bit. It starts striking into my

(39:46):
knock without a head. Wow. I wait a minute, I
wait just a minute. Happened that wasn't experienced. Wow, that's weird.
But how to you know that? That was? Yeah? Anyway,
that will else. We're buried up to ray.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Ask a very interesting question. Who controls the ananochy.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Oh, well, the source, and I don't know they have
you know, they have freedom. We all have freedom of choice.
Everything in the universe does. I think that's what we're
being given special too. We have our freedom of choice.
Another reason why we have to go through these experiences
so we can choose how to react to them. That's

(40:32):
a big deal. That's how we grow, That's how we
get our vibration high enough to get out of this
their density. But the source that would be God to
those who go that way, and the anonarchy I think
are innumerable. There's probably don't know how many way you
can't count them. Probably, but I think there are nine
dimensional beings who are in the galaxy, perhaps more than

(40:55):
just this galaxy. I don't know. I guess we'll find
out what these days. We're all headed for something sooner
or later.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
So Also a pretty interesting comment made by Ray wondering
if Sasquatch evolves or is the same allways kind of
frozen in time.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I think they evolved. They evolved by cross meeting and
just by you all mean. But I don't think again,
they're all the same. I've been in all the world
interviewing people talking to people about what they've saw out there,
and like the ones in Nepollor smaller, a little bit higher, different,

(41:46):
and but it's the strange thing that there was a
genesis went up there with a geographic grant or a
bunch of people and they did a documentary up there,
and she took an EDNA which is environmentally and out
of ice at the seventeen thousand feet come back and
it was the mitochondrial, which is a maternal side with
human ninety nine percent human. And that's interesting, I think,

(42:11):
I said. Anyway, falls right into Melbourne Ketchum's study two,
which she went a little all on that. But she
she when she were writing into the Nephelin theory of
alien interaction, because she couldn't identify the nuclear DNA of
the species of the samples that she had, so she said,
well it has to be none. If there's none the

(42:32):
gene bank, which has billions of samples, it has to
be contaminated. According to Academy of Science, because we unfortunately
humans here think the smartest thing on this planet and
we're not. You know, these things have been evolving and
more and more they're expanding. They come into our third

(42:55):
density to have children. I think they can do. They
do that. We record a small voice of there and
they've had small tracks in the snow, so it's a
they do have small ones and a lot of people
report a family. They're running family units, and I think
they teach their young and that's their density how to
deal with us humans and not a toy with u,
because they do toy with you, by the way. They

(43:16):
they're messing with us a lot up there. But we
didn't realize at the time. But well, what I've done
differently if I know what I knew now, what I
think I know now, I would have done things differently,
But I don't. I didn't know what I knew.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
Now, what's your opinion about mine speak?

Speaker 2 (43:37):
Minds?

Speaker 1 (43:38):
Mind speak?

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Oh, let's telepathic? Yeah, telepathy. They find the frequency of
what you're in and they can send something to you. Now,
you got to always analyze. I mean we do. I do.
I'm very analytical analyzed. Did that thought come to me
from something else or was I thinking of something else?
Did my brain do that or did something else to

(44:00):
do that? Well, when it happens to you, you know
what did it? And you have to be in that
state I think it's between the out of the state
of state of a weariness sleep basically, and in that
state you can have things come to you through that frequency.
And I think it's important we realize that. Yeah, that happens.

(44:22):
It happens even when you're conscious like we are now.
So people are just very telepathic. And that's like you
think of a phone call, somebody's gonna call you, and
cert enough phone rings and that person calls you. Well,
several other things like that happened to you that I'm
talking to a guy today about something. Wow, just popped
up my screen before we was talking about you know,

(44:44):
I didn't do that anyway. It's it's fun, but it's
also interesting. Yeah, mine speak. Like I said, it's all
about frequency, energy and vibration.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
Definitely. So do you seen sasquat shape shift into their
animal forms?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
I have not. Skinwalker Ranch claims that my granddaughter, she's
a teacher of teachers right now, she's here in Washington
where I'm at now, and she has all. I gotta
tell you a story. My daughter saw one when we
was down across our camp and she saw run across

(45:28):
this meadow real early in the morning, just at daybreak
and my Wendy, my granddaughter, was with us, and she
was eighteen at the time, No, nineteen years she's a
student at a oh senacers not that that matters, but anyway,
I went over and she saw this thing underwards where

(45:51):
my granddaughter was walking. And my daughter Ronda thought, well,
Wendy's going to see that, you know. So when she
back to camp, she said, you see anythings, Yeah, there's
a big white wolf. Came right out in front of
me and staid they looked at me for a while.
I just stared at She just told me about that
again yesterday, and I can't say any more than that

(46:13):
because to work on his trackway later, and that's the
time I saw the trackways disappear, and I looked at
the trees. I looked where I could have went, but no,
I got a picture that my first book Voice and
the Women. It's too so also not too.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Some researchers avoid paranormal bigfoot theories because they feel like
it would damage their credibility as taking that leap caused
you any connections in the field.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
It used to, but not anymore. I think more and
more people were grabbing on there because they like Tesla said,
to what one man calls a god, no one calls
the laws of physics. And so you find that spirituality
quantum physics are pretty synonymous, and you just have to
you just have to get into that brainwork. Turn your

(47:07):
head into a parachute, you know, make sure it opens.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
I love that turning your head into a parachute.

Speaker 2 (47:16):
Well, sometimes it looks like a big bubble on your shoulders.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
What's your take on the idea that these beings can
manimpulate perception or even cloak themselves.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, well, the cloaking we've talked about, Yeah, that's a
matter of di matter. But as far as making you
think something, I don't know. Because something made us think
we heard our camp be into our part, something made
us think we heard something up in the sky which
wasn't there. Never did see it anyway, or did we

(47:49):
really hear that? You know, we're concressant, were awake, And
I just kind of wonder, are they hypnotizing all of
us cause us to think that way? Can they do that?
I don't know. I mean, I don't know if it's
but they have to do it to all of us.

(48:10):
I wasn't always well, I've been up there by myself,
but I wasn't by myself those times.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
And h.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Yeah. Also metallic sounds, Yeah, where did that come from?

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Metallic sounds like as in doors opening and closing?

Speaker 2 (48:32):
No, metallic sounds like metal. Yeah, I have heard a
door open and close. There's no doors up there. Yeah,
but yeah, so many things that went on up there
that people wanting to know more about. And that's why

(48:54):
I talk about it like this on programs like yours.
I'm so glad you invited me on this program.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
So I'm glad you were here. That's one of the
things that in reading more about your work and your
experiences it, like I said, it's almost been It's almost
as if this is the accumulation of what I've been

(49:20):
working for with this show, is to bring us to
this point. The that's my train of thought for a moment.
So if tomorrow absolute proof of sasquatch existence when public,

(49:45):
how do you think humanity would react to that?

Speaker 2 (49:48):
Well, it depends on the government how they presented it,
because usually up until now, the UFOs is like that
are proof food. They can't explain that. They're going to
hide it. They only going to give you what they
think you can handle it. So until these things are
really showing up amongst everything, like the upos are going
to and like aliens are fixing to, we're going to

(50:10):
have a big year ahead of us. I think maybe
a couple of years. That's it's more and more and
more important that people understand who they are as a human.
Realize that nothing's going to hurt you. Nothing can affect
your ethereal part of you except you how you respond
to experiences. So I suggest people don't get caught up

(50:33):
too much. I got a whole chapter in my last book,
A Bigfoot on Veiled about AI. I think AI is
very important what's coming, and the whole world's going to
be to be dependent on it. They're gonna have their
own congress, that they're gonna have their own They're going
to create themselves. I just got all kinds of faith

(50:56):
in that right there. I think that is the end times.
Because but I suggest people when they get offered, because
we're made to go to the sixth City after this
through the fourth of time, where we choose where we're
going to go with there back here and reincarnator. And
I do believe in incarnation. Now I didn't used to
one race that write all but nothing makes sense and

(51:18):
all these five year old kids that can play chopin.
You know, you've got to win. How that happens. I
see my grandkids, how sharp they are. My gosh, I
thought I was surprised as young, but no, I'm not
compared to what they're going on now. And also different
kids that age, knowing different languages. So how do you
explain that? Well, it's talking to minister about as well,

(51:41):
it's the point of the man wants to die? After
that said, well, he emphasized once and I think basically
it's the point of the man wants to die. You know,
it's kind of what you emphasize there. And where are
you going to go with it? Because we do die,
and no question about this biological body is going to go.
And it's the ethereal part which does not die. It

(52:02):
goes into judgment and that's where you decide. You read
about you understand everything then anyway, sixth dimensions, ninth dimensions
are ultimate goal. We've got to be, uh, that's what
we're supposed to be headed for the ninth dimension, and
that's that's where you are really get into because we're

(52:25):
made to be like that, I think, And if you
take an AI body and someone tells you that you
could have a thousand years of good health just taking
this other body will transfer your consciousness. That's happened. That
will happen, and you'll take it. I mean, if you're
not careful, if you don't know, but stay with who

(52:46):
you were created by the image you're created in, and
that's that's to be a ninth dimensional being.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Right after decades in the field, what keeps you curious?
And what's the questions that yoused to have not surge yet?

Speaker 2 (53:06):
Huh? What keeps me interested? Oh? My quantum theory, my
my thoughts about this thing. It keeps getting every time
I leach into something else, it digs out a little
bit more and adds to that picture. And that keeps
me interesting because I think I got a kind of
a picture of what these things are all about. And

(53:29):
they can entangle your brain and uh, and of everything
can tang your brain. You got an open one, you know,
you gotta be careful there? What you what you entertain? Uh?
What was the last other question?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
What questions do you still have that you have an
answered yet?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
Oh? I'm getting there. Well, animals, you know their energy
to mhm uh, what what controls our energy? And what
controls we control our energy? Because we're gonna we are

(54:09):
we have choices as as humans that we are. We
control a lot more than what we think we do,
and we have a lot more to goal within ourselves
to Basically, I want to improve my vibration. You do
that through I think through meditation. That's when you be quiet.

(54:33):
Just try to hear. Don't don't be talking all the time.
Just be quiet and try to hear and understand what's
being told to you. And be quiet and see what's
what your peace had in your heart because your heart
and your brain have to be in coherence. And that's
that's the bottom line of what we need to accomplish,
all of us to. We can learn to do that
via the penial gland, I believe the third eye, and

(54:57):
that connects into the heart. That's a receptor. In my opinion,
I think we've got a lot of receptors in our body.
But the opinion that is the mainland. The brain takes
care of your body, the heart takes care of your soul.
That was a good one. I just saw that.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
It is very good. I think we've We've touched on
this pretty well tonight. But as we round into our
top of a bour here, what is your final thoughts
that you would like to leave with us tonight?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Okay, glad you ask. Know who you are as a
human being, Know what you are and why you're here.
You know, don't be a victim of anything, learn from everything,
and don't get mad at people for any reason. You
want to sometimes keep that middle finger down, Just don't

(56:02):
do it, you know, show compassion and love for everything
that happens. And that's that's easier said than done sometimes
for some people. But that's what I try to do,
and that's what I want. I'd like to see everybody
doing that because then and then the whole earth would
be better and we stop our warring culture and they

(56:24):
need to stop killing people and stop hurting people. We
all got to think that way, I think to get
this vibrational up. That's the only way I got a
third density, because if you don't learn something here, you're
going to have to learn it somewhere, either here, another
time or another planet that's on a third density. Ah.

(56:46):
So that's the thought I like to leave people with
is know who you are as a human being, specially
you are. How privileged you are being given this golden
ticket to be on this planet.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Definitely, definitely, I appreciate you so much and the work
that you do. You definitely have brought us to a
greater understanding of a Bigfoot of life experience. And I

(57:23):
feel like your work, your calling has definitely brought humanity
to the place where we are now and our understanding
of not just the big Foot creatures, it's the potential

(57:45):
in power existence their existence. So I definitely appreciate you,
and I thank you for coming on tonight.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Thank you. I appreciate you, ask.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
Definitely, and I'm going to run us out for the
night and I will talk back in just a moment here.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Okay, thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
All right, guys, Wow, so so much wisdom and knowledge
and understanding. This has been a very powerful night, and
I appreciate each one of you for joining us. If
you've made it this far into the show tonight, I

(58:43):
would like for you to leave me a comment below.
What's your thoughts on sasquatch? Is it flesh and blood
or more? And do you believe that sasquatch and they're
cryptis as well, are very normal give me your thoughts

(59:07):
on it in the comments below. Meanwhile, I appreciate you guys,
I love you, and may your journey always be magical.
Waiting for so long to see when you come back

(59:30):
to me.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Through the walls and battles that were lost, we're all again.
It's you and me.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
The rest is history to be danced together in different

(01:00:09):
still fifteen hundreds, how to end?

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
But we must have been loved, we must have been
suffered in

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Our past life.