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Today on a main source of truth, we have doctor Carlin Borisenko, a
psychologist from New Hampshire who now performsacts of journalism. She's broken some very
big stories, such as the cityof Seattle holding racist training sessions for only
white employees. She broke a storyleading to the first federal lawsuit on critical
race theory in the schools and howschools are grooming children. She broke the
Coca Cola corporate b less white story, and yes, those of you still
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drinking Coca Cola products, you knowyou might be too white for their product.
But today we'll talk about her latestbomb still exclusive, the American Library
Association and its ties to socialism.We'll do an update on a K through
three school in Waterville, Maine,who has hired a man who's convinced he's
a woman and is telling people they'reat school he birthed a baby. We'll
also update a story about Drummond Woodsand the legal bullying arm of the main
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education system that would be dropping onMonday, and how trans students, sports
and bathrooms are being called settled law. This is the main Source of Truth
podcast, and very few parents upsetanything, but Sean McCarney did Sehn mcbridy
is in the facist of this today, Sean, though, how pervasive at
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that in our school? Sean mcbriartyjoins us. Now he just won this
lawsuit and gets forty thousand dollars fromthe school board. Good morning, Shawn,
his most dangerous dad. Apparently,how are you are you being school
a working schooled by a local districtfor exposing the transgender libraries. It's like,
can you explain to what would happen? Hey? You all so with
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everything that's going on to be dispossitivethis like outchols mail yeah about the overceptualization
of books and libraries at the pooland then looked like you put the handle
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now on to the show. Allright, folks, It is season two,
episode seventy five, September eight,twenty twenty three, and this episode
is gonna be called doctor Carlin BorisenkoAla says libraries need to be the site
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of socialist organizing. So some updatesyou probably tell by the inter My voice
is shot. I went to thePantera concert last night. I had a
great time, yelled a lot.So I'm recovering today and my voice is
toast. But I'm gonna keep abalanced through this because this is important information.
And I always bring a Bible updateor a Bible verse. And a
friend of the podcast, Patriot,Barbie Lindsay Graham, who I've just been
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reading her book called Targeted, thatI picked up after we had her on
the last episode, and man,this is a tough story to read through
the early years before she stood upto the government who was trying to shut
down her business. But I've gottenup to chapter eleven and it's so far
been been a very, very difficultto read the story. I wish I
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had read this book before I interview. But she has a lot of Bible
verses in here, and one isIsaiah six eight. It says the voice
of the Lord said, whom shallI send and who will go for us?
And I said, here am Isend me? Doctor Borisenko is going
to mention something to that effect,as we talked to her later, where
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really you have to stand up.You have to stand up for your rights.
You have to stand up for therights of your community, your country,
and if you choose not to,that's twice as bad. Right,
it's misfeasance versus malfeasance. Misfeasance isyou didn't know about it so you couldn't
do anything. Malfeasance is you nowknow about it and choose to do nothing.
We need to choose to take action, and that's what folks like doctor
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Barrisenko is going to be doing whenshe talks to us. She's been doing
her now for three and a halfyears. The other update I want to
have here is this is tough.There's a basically a mental health crisis in
our schools that is in part beingcaused by those mentally ill people working in
these schools. So on my Twitterpage at Sean mcbriarty, and I certainly
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would appreciate folks giving me a followI always say it's kind of funny that
I have like Twitter envy from allmy periods because I only have like five
thousand followers and a lot of mypeers have way more than I do.
But anyway, I'm here in Maine, so I guess I can get what
I get. But there there wasin the in the Waterville School. In
this AOS ninety three K through threeschool in Waterville, Maine, they hired
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this person who, unfortunately, andagain God bless them, they're pretty darn
confused. But this George J.Mitchell K through three school in Waterville hired
an employee with an apparent mental illnessas an ed tech in the behavior program
for kids that are five years old, five six, seven year olds.
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So this man's name is Rosa Deard I e Er and they seem to
hate the police. There's pictures ofa blue Lives Don't Matter sweatshirt that he
says is his favorite shirt. It'sgot a bullet hole through the pig's head.
There's a pig's head on the sweatshirt. There's another post that says he
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eats police. And this person washired to be around children. How that
is it's just beyond comprehension on howthese things play out. That in a
background check that you wouldn't have figuredout. As a school, you probably
don't want this guy who thinks he'sa girl, a woman, and is
telling people in the school other employeesthat he's birthed a baby and showing them
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baby photos. From what has beenreported to me, again, this is
just a freak show in Waterville,and I'm gonna play this video for you.
You can see you again. Allcontent and pictures on at Sean mcbriarty
on Twitter, But let me playthis for you. So, womanhood from
a trans one perspective, really justcomes down to identity, and for me,
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that really just includes being referred tousing shehert pronouns when people are talking
about women, referring to a group, I am included in that, using
the one of those restrooms, thingslike that. Is so this again,
this freak show working in school saysthat womanhood is nothing more than just identifying
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as a woman. So apparently anybodycan be a woman. And obviously the
six foot six towering man wants tobe able to use the women's bathroom.
That's that's what's you know, whatwomanhood is to him. Got back from
the grocery store. I hate goingto the grocery store. It's always filled
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with the sissets and the whites,and no one wears a mask, so
the grocery store is always full ofI think, he says sissets, which
again cis gender is this idiotic termthat nobody should use. But it's basically
that you're already in your own sexuality, like I'm a man, I'm assist
man. No, I'm just aman, but they call assists like I
had a choice. It's just it'sidiotic, it's insane, and talks about
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the whites. So they've hired aracist person in this school system for K
through three kids. And you're gonnahear this here again. This next one
is of him in bed cuddling withall of his stuffed animals. Hey,
friends, I just wanted to showyou Paula, my plague doctor Angel,
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my alien, and then I'm alsogoing to you are not going. I
have Penelope, the plank nurse onher way too. I'll show you her
when you get Hobby Lobby today toapply for a job. That was a
mistake because Hobby Lobby is homophobic andracist and best trans bitch ain't white.
So this trans bitch ain't white.I don't know what he is. He
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kind of looks white like he's he'sas white as milk. I don't know
else to describe him, but youcan see the video on my rumble page,
a main source of truth. Again, you can it also on this
string of tweets that it's getting gettingpretty good play right now. There are
a number of people who have retweetedit and viewed it. It's been viewed
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about fifteen thousand times. I willbe sending an email to the school board
and the superintendent and principle of thisschool basically exposing this creep and hoping that
they terminate him. He was workingat Walmart like two years ago. I
don't know what's changed, but clearlythere this guy should not be around kids
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or schools in general in any way. And then the last update I've had
this actually kind of in a draftqueue for about a week or more.
The headline is going to be DrummonWoodson Law Firms says that trans student sports
and bathroom use are settled law,and the subline will be the Main Supreme
Court doesn't agree with their livesable missionand mischaracterization of birth sex. So Drummond
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Woodson is the largest legal bullying armof the main Department of Vacation and the
entire system. They held an LGBTQtraining that basically said transgender students can do
whatever they want, and the otherninety nine percent of the students who are
at risk from these boys, youknow, hanging out changing in girls locker
room, looking at your daughter inher private parts in the shower, can
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just go pound sand. And sothat is the far left political narrative being
pushed by lawyers being paid millions ofdollars with your hard earned tax dollars.
And I'm going to continue to exposethis, so I will create another video.
There's already one of my Rumble channelfrom the last article I did.
This is the third in a sequenceof articles, So I'd love you to
free to read the first two first. That will give you a little bit
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more background, but you're going tobasically see and hear in their own words
things like transgender students must generally bepermitted to participate in schools, programs,
and activities in accordance to their genderidentity. Again, that's called a lie
of omission and a half truth,and that's not what this Supreme Court in
Maine actually ruled on. And beforewe bring on our next guest, I
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thanks again again my pillow dot comSlash Maine. So she was known as
the knitting Democrat who went to aTrump rally a few years ago and then
left the Democrat Party completely. She'sa psychologist from New Hampshire who now performs
acts of journalism and she's been calledan unwoke cult leader for having a hate
channel. Our next guest has brokenvery big stories such as the city of
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Seattle holding racist trainings for only whiteemployees, breaking the first federal lawsuit on
critical race theory and the story leadingup to that, and how the schools
are really effectively grooming children. Shebroke the Coca Cola corporate be less White
story, and I don't think I'vedrank Coca Cola since that's probably a couple
of years. But today we talkabout her latest exclusive, the American Library
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Association and its ties to socialism.Through all that, she's written a book
titled Actively Unwoke, which is theultimate guide for fighting back against the woke
insanity in your life, and thatbook will help you decode some of the
terminology and explains, you know,really what we're up against here. She's
done trainings and has had an ActivelyUnwoke podcast, invited me on that while
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back and allowed me to tell mystory, So I certainly appreciate that,
and maybe we'll schedule an update heresometime. But she's been on Fox News,
Glennbeck, many other national news outlets, has toured around the country to
speak about what's going on, andalso determined in most cases, Republicans are
no better than Democrats because there's simplya lot of rhinos out there. She's
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on stub sub stack search Actively Unwokeor go to Carolyn dot substack dot com
and I'll spell it out k ar l y n and really read a
lot of great articles there. Andshe's on Twitter at doctor carling b but
against spelling out k r l yn B, and also on Instagram and
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YouTube. So I want to welcomeCarlin Borisenko, doctor Borisanko to the main
Source of truth podcast. All Right, I struggled through that a little bit,
but all all in fun. Fromlast night's Pantera concert, Carl and
I really appreciate your time, andI wanted to give the listeners a little
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bit of a brief overview of,you know, how you got into this
crazy situation of really pushing back againstwhat is called the woke. I mean,
it was kind of an all anaccident. This was this was not
a part of my life plan.And I think that you can understand,
Sean, that you you know,circumstances happen in life that you kind of
get thrown into this and then itkind of becomes an obsession and a little
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bit of a calling, for lackof a better word. I think those
of us who do this all day, every day, it's almost one of
those things that once you see what'sgoing on in the world, you can't
unsee it. And it's it's harderto sit back and do nothing than it
is to kind of jump into thefire and do something about it. And
so I've been in this game forabout three and a half years now.
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I've seen a lot, I've hearda lot, and I just I keep
getting more shocked at what's going onthe more I go down the rabbit hole.
Yeah, and you mentioned a calling. I think that's a really good
term to use, and that's reallywhat people came to me early on in
this process and said, hey,you know, this just might be your
calling, and it is. It'sit's extremely difficult, but I agree with
you sort of from an integrity perspective. If you see these things and you
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know that they're evil, they're wrong, they're absolutely the you know, the
destruction of America is happening right infront of our faces, and you do
nothing. To me, that's worse, right. I mean, not everybody
agrees with how I do it,and not everybody agrees with how you do
it, And sometimes you and Iare even a little bit off on on
maybe not on the same page,but we're in the same book in the
same library, and we're really tryingto just promote and expose this craziness that's
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going on. I mean, youknow, you've been able to focus on
what you know, the practical implementationof woke ideology and schools and workplaces and
the institutions, talking about policies andlaws and really expanding these things. But
it's it's so tough to translate thatinto this real world situation help people fight
back against it. Yeah, Imean, I think you know, listen,
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there's still playbook for how to dothis right. And so I think
there are a lot of activists inthe space, and we each have our
own ways of doing it. AndI think if we're doing something correctly,
we're probably going to make people mad, and we're going to upset people,
and we certainly have. You know, you and I Sean have different political
views. We are going to disagreeon things. But I think where we
can agree on is that the wokeideology, which I define woke as an
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authoritarian ideology. I think it canexist on the left and the right.
I think we agree that authoritarianism isbad. I think we can agree that
indoctrination in the schools from either politicalside, quite frankly, is bad.
You know, if we're going tohave public schools, it shouldn't be a
place where any political agenda is pushed. It should be about teaching kids how
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to read, how to write,how to do math, how like,
like you know, real history,for lack of a better term. And
so I think that you know,we might have political differences, and we
might have differences in tactics, butat the end of the day, we
do have common values and we haveto come together, to work together to
fight the bigger enemy. Yeah,no doubt. And I think that common
sense kind of alternative is something thatseems like is you know, being missed
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now. It's certainly not being taughtin schools anymore, you know. Unfortunately
these kids here are just being indoctrinatedleft and right in these public schools.
And the interesting thing woke, youknow, to me, I often have
a hard time to define that,and I appreciate you defining it. One
of the things she Van Fleet wason the podcast six months or so ago
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and her definition was woke is aworldview using a lens of Marxism and uh,
she actually escaped communist China former librarian. I've seen another good definition of
woke. This was on medium dotcom and an article an unhinged extremist belief
system sweeping through our culture, politics, and education. And so when you
start breaking down that word, andagain it seems to have different meanings on
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the left or the right, dependingon who's you know, describing it.
But it's really become like a religionor a cult. And you know,
if you're embracing ridiculous terms like cisgender and safe spaces and Latin X.
It's just this neoliberal kind of neoMarxist craziness that's going on. And again,
people people really can't, you know, necessarily define what's happening. But
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again, when you break it downa common sense you say, hey,
that that doesn't seem right to me. You know, that might be the
U about it. I I,well, I you know, I disagree
with that a little bit. AndI certainly understand why people define woe as
exclusively being on the left. Butin my opinion, woke just means authoritarian.
I don't think that the battle thatwe're in is left versus right.
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It's not democrat versus republican. It'snot conservative versus progressive. It is authoritarianism
versus libertarianism. And woke for me, can exist on both the left and
the right. In fact, andI know this is something people don't like
me to say. I experienced personallyfar more woke authoritarianism from the right than
I actually do from the left,Which is funny because I talk about the
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left all day every day and so, but I actually get very little pushback
from them. I get far morepushback from the authoritarians on the right.
And what I've noticed in the courseof that is that woke on the right
actually acts the same as woke onthe left. They might have different things
that they're going for. You havethe Christian nationalists on the right, whereas
you have the Marxist authoritarians on theleft. And so I would agree with
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these definition a bit, because ofcourse Marxism and Maoism are absolutely part of
the woke on the left component.But on the right we have you know,
Christian conservative nationalists, which is notthe same as being a normal Christian.
There is a very specific definition goingon there. We have all like
people that are following Nick Fluentez,we have and and and you know,
it's like horseshoe theory, right,they are two sides of the same coin,
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and eventually they might be on oppositesides of the aisle, but the
horseshoe dictates that eventually they're going tomeet. Yeah. No, that makes
sense. And I do appreciate thatbecause I think one of the things,
as you were saying that is Iget a lot of flaks sometimes from from
the right or from conservative folks,because they don't like it when I call
people out. You know, theydon't like it when I use hyperbole and
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you know, kind of use ridicule, which is, you know, one
of the left powerful weapons. Ohyeah, you have to, you have
to. I just came to me. My head will pop off if I
don't kind of make fun of itto some degree. And that's maybe just
my you know, twelve year oldhumor as a fifty two year old man
here. But yeah, I thinkit is interesting and and I agree with
you. It can be on theright and the left. I joke,
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you know, I am a Christianand I love our country. But you
know, if someone called me aChristian nationalist, I'm like, I don't
you know, I don't think I'mthat. But if it depends on how
you want to rename the nomenclature hereas we're going through, you know,
so, but it is. Itis crazy, certainly, and I think,
uh, at least we're doing somethingright. I mean, I think
some of the things you've brought tothis table here recently and really in the
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last week, it's been it's beenamazing. And I was going back reading
through some of your substack information andhonestly kind of forgot about somebody that so
many of the bombshells that you broughtto America and just the you know,
the media exposure that you've brought tothis to this fight. But we're a
want to dive into this American LibraryAssociation and it's ties, it's tied into
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this Socialist twenty twenty three conference justhappened at the beginning of September. Here.
Tell us a little bit about howyou infiltrated this woke mob to then
really create these truth bombs and youknow, how did you develop that plan?
And I know it wasn't cheap togo there. Tell us a little
bit about sort of your pregame andwhat you thought you might be able to
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get from going to this conference.Yeah, So the first thing I want
to say is that if you're listeningto this and your desire after you hear
this story is to go to asocialism conference, the very first thing I'm
going to say is you can't justget up and go to a socialism conference.
You can't do that. You're goingto put yourself in danger if you
do that. I prepared to goto this conference for a full year,
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and that's not an exaggeration. Soon my YouTube channel, we do what's
called Socialism Saturday, where we andit started completely as an accident a year
ago and then it transformed into somethingthat was real. Where I found this
socialism conference being live streamed on YouTubea year ago and decided just to stream
a watch party on my channel iskind of like a gag, like haha,
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and that started. Oh yeah,I'm a very big fan of mockery
like we are. We are onthis plate page in terms of and you
know, and I think I alsothink that this content is so heavy that
you have to make it fun forpeople to kind of interact with and engage
with. So I try to dothat. But we started basically this weekly
series of events where every single Saturdayat six pm on my channel and we're
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still doing it now. We sitdown and we watch the real socialist activists.
We're not talking about AOC or BernieSanders though they're not the real socialist
activists. These are the most hardcore, plugged in far left people that you
are going to find on the planet. And what we started to realize is
that if you go back and youwatch the real socialist activists from like two,
three, four or five years ago, those are the talking points of
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the Democratic Party today. And sothese people. They might be small in
number, and people might laugh atthem and call them mentally ill and crazy
and all that stuff. But thesepeople are winning. These people are driving
where the Democratic Party is going.And so I spent a full year watching
these people more sometimes more than oncea week on Saturday. Is because sometimes
I would do midweek stream. SometimesI was crazy enough to watch Socialism just
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in my free time. And thatwas really a process of I had to
learn the language, because socialists speaka completely different language, they speak in
code. I had to learn whothe major players were. I had to
learn what their ideas were. Ihad to learn what their culture was.
And it was all of those thingscombined over the course of preparing for this
for a year that set me upto go into that Socialism conference and blend
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in with four hundred far less socialistsfor three straight days. And so this
is yeah, right, So you'reyou've put in the time to immerse yourself
so that you kind of, youknow, like you're a little double secret
agent sort of going into this thing. And I can only imagine there are
maybe some good things that come outof that, But generally speaking, when
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you're walking in there and you're youknow, associating with four hundred people.
Did you feel scared or worried orI was terrified? Yeah, yeah,
I was terrified. I was havingyou know, I had to I had
to present, just like you haveto go in there and just not react.
Right, you can't make a face, you can't make a sicker,
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you can't do anything. You can'tdo any of that, and so and
so. Not only was I ina position of having to sit in a
room for four for three days withlike like socialists, I couldn't react,
but also in my head, Iwas having many panic attacks the whole time
because I don't think people are reallyI mean, I'm not going to suggest
that everyone at the Socialism conference wasdangerous, because that's just not the case.
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There are different types of socialists thatexist, but there was a very
large contingent of hardcore far left revolutionarysocialists. And this is who you might
most commonly identify as Antifa. Theywere very easy to identify by how they
dressed and how they showed up.And you know, it was not I
was there by myself. I didn'thave security. I didn't have any video
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cameras watching me or anything like that. And if they had figured out who
I was and that I wasn't partof their group. I could have been
in very real physical danger. Infact, a member of my community drove
into Chicago to bring me pepper sprayjust to have with me, just in
case, because people were so worriedthat I was doing this. That's incredible,
I mean, that is and Ididn't really think about that until you
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just mentioned it. I mean,I could see obviously, you're you're you're
playing a you're playing a role essentially, and you really have to have to
act the part, or yeah,somebody's going to tip you off. And
and you know, I mean,you've been all over the news nationally for
years. You know, you'd thinkthat somebody might have just gone, hey,
like she looks familiar or something.You know. But well, not
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only that, not only that,wait, well, not only that,
the conference preemptively banned me. Theypreemptively banned me from even showing up,
and they found out where I wasstaying, and they canceled my hotel room
because even though I had had severalconversations with the hotel, do not tell
people I'm staying here. Do nottell people I'm staying here. The hotel
still gave out my name, andso I was actually flying to from Boston
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to Chicago. I got an emailfrom the hotel saying your reservation has been
canceled, and I was like,what the what? And so I had
to call the hotel to find outwhat happened, and it was like then
was the question of like, Okay, do I rebook at this hotel?
Is like no, well they knowI'm going to be staying there. So
then I had to find a differenthotel literally as I'm going to Chicago.
So they knew I was coming.They had preemptively banned me, and so
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I knew that they were going tobe on the lookout for me, which
made me freak out a little bitmore. But like, I wasn't a
disguise. I dyed my hair,I got new glasses, and luckily for
me, Sean, they had amask requirement and so I did have to
They did. They did. Everyonehad to wear a mask, and so
that was actually really helpful. Soso you're you're sitting in this conference and
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we're gonna play some of these clipshere and you're trying not to react,
and again, you know, Iroll my eyes at everything. Nowadays,
it seems like, you know,I just have that sort of chuckle and
exposure when it when it occurs.But so, so you're sitting there and
you're listening to some of these justcrazy, crazy discussions, right, And
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I guess how did you feel inthat moment? I mean, you know,
you're recording it, you're trying tomake sure that you're not tipping anybody
off. But as they're seeing thesethings, now, what level of reaction
do you have there? Well,it was funny because when I got the
ALA president on the record saying thatlibrary should be sites of socialist organizing.
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That was actually the first session thatI had used my hidden recording device in
because I hadn't brought it the daybefore because I was afraid they'd be scanning
for recording devices and I was justtaking a whole bunch of notes. But
the next day, when I knewthey weren't doing that, I was like,
it's just this little device that youkind of like put in your pocket.
I had never used it before.I didn't even know if it was
going to work. And so I'msitting in this session and there was so
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much crazy stuff that came out ofthis session, but specifically So the way
socialists do things is they have kindof like a panel of presenters that present
for half the session, and thenanyone in the audience can get up and
go to a microphone in the secondhalf of the session and talk for like
two to three minutes and say whateverthey want to say. So it's a
little bit different. So the headof the American Library Association was not officially
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speaking at the conference. She justhappened to be in the audience in this
particular session, and so she cameup to the microphone, which I was
quite literally sitting right next to themicrophone, and she came up and started
talking and said, Hi, I'mEmily, and I'm a librarian. I
recognized her voice immediately because I justlistened to a webinar that she gave like
the day before, and in myhead, I'm freaking out. I was
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like, Oh my God, pleasebe recording, Please be recording. No,
like, like, you don't evenunderstand. I have never had such
a conversation with God in my lifeas when I heard that as the president
of the American Libraries Association says librariesneed to be a site of Marxist organizing.
I was like no one's gonna believeme if this doesn't record. I
was praying to God. I waslike, I will never do anything bad
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again in my life. God,just please make those recording. Well,
just set that up a little bit. And maybe not everybody knows, but
you know, we've been certainly tryingto expose the ALA for really since April
thirteenth, twenty twenty two, EmilyDrabinski, the then president elect of the
American Library Association, on Twitter said, I just cannot believe that a Marxist
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lesbian who believes that collective power ispossible to build and can be wielded for
a better world is the president electof the American Library Association. I'm so
excited for what we will do togethersolidarity, So you know, and I
couldn't care less that she's a lesbian. It's it's that she's using that for
leverage. But everybody in America shouldsay, wait a second. The largest
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library association in the world with thirteenthousand libraries, fifty eight thousand members,
ten thousand student members, assets ofeighty million dollars, you know, five
million dollars paid from taxpayer funding,nineteen million dollars in payroll, that's where
you're like, wait, this justisn't right. So so let's let's play
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this bombshell clip here. And uhso this was this was in I think
a session that was called Freedom toLearn, Black and Asian American Solidarity against
Attacks on Anti racist Education, whichis a mouthful. And then uh,
they were talking a little bit abouthow I guess in this session, uh,
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they would like to smuggle socialist ideaslike critical race theory into the classroom,
even in those states that outlawed,which which again we know is kind
of happening. So let's listen tothis audio and then we'll kind of talk
about that in a second if Ican get this to run. Hold on.
So the first thing is and it'sand I know obviously with your recording
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device it's it's muffled. But she'sintroduced as comrade. I mean, yeah,
what is what kind of world?And that is well, that is
actually a serious thing. So amongstsocialist comrade is actually like an honor It's
an honorary. It's like an honorarium. Okay, and so you actually we
actually we actually did a part classon one of my Socialism Saturdays just about
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the term comrade. Because they doreally take that seriously unbelievable. All right,
hold on, let's let's keep usgoing combray here, let's see what's
happened here. Hold on the second, A little technics, Emily, and
I'm a library and I just wantto say think about I just want to
say thank you for bringing up librariesand clubs and libraries, but also who
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ivery call kinds of public libraries andhigher educational library attack smilar ways, But
I think your point is public educationneeds to be applied to socialist organizing.
I think libraries really new too,and that happens I haven't seen for the
work in the library is. ButI think there's a feel opportunity here to
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both can that's got to have mein a public intuation'll haping me in the
library. Also, we need somehelp to the library needs to be on
the agenta for MATS. So Iwant to do something, yeah, on
the agenda for socialist organizing. Imean, I don't I don't know how
I would have been able to containmyself just you know, as you described
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it, I'd just be I'd bejust losing my mind, I guess,
you know, Yeah, like Isaid in my in my head. You
should see my notebook because I literallyhave all caps in my notebooks going,
oh my god. I really was. I was like, and I was
like, I was like, ifI get nothing else from this conference,
I'm done. Like I have everythingI need as long as this clip comes
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out. Yeah, no doubt,no doubt. So I know that that
clip has been featured, like JackPostabic just had it on his podcast,
A number of outlets have had itin a few days, and it's all
on your sub stack. So knowingthat that was a smoking gun, like
that was you know, hey,that was worth what did you say it
was three thousand bucks to go tothis thing. It was about three thousand
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dollars that I had, like hoteland airfare and I had to buy recording
equipment and disguises and food and allthat all that stuff. So it did
end up to be about three thousanddollars. Yeah, man. So uh
So the other piece that we thatwe learned, and again this came from
a tweet from she Van Fleet.Uh She said Durbinsky had changed her ALA
affiliation to the City University of NewYork on her speaker profile or something that
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I guess it was in the conferencenotes or something, but she was saying
that she updated the title Critical PedagogyLibrarian, which basically talks about, you
know, following the Brazilian communist educatorPoulaphrari and that, you know, the
whole thing trying to radicalize and sexualizeour kids. And so you've got this
Marxist lesbian who now says that librariansshould be the you know, the socialist
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uh like the place, the placebasically to turn American too. Just woke
nonsense. And uh, what's thereaction been from the media, from your
peers, from the press? Uh? Kind of you know, how's the
last week gone for you? Afteryou after you, you know, cut
this thing out? Well, Imean it's good and bad because the good
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part is that people are sharing thestory, people are covering the story.
The bad part is that a lotof them are neglecting to mention where they
got the story from, which I'mgonna be honest, Listen, it's not
all about credit. And I thinkyou and I know this. It's not
all about credit. It is aboutgetting the story out and about making sure
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pieces of people have the resources theyneed. But I'm gonna say this as
someone who I put myself in physicaldanger for three days to cover this,
to spend three thousand dollars out ofmy own pocket when I didn't know the
head of the American Library Association waseven going to be there because they canceled
their talk. I didn't know ifI was going to get anything out of
this, and I did it becauseit was the right thing to do when
it was invented needed to be covered. And I wish that especially conservative influencers
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and media outlets would be a littlebit more ethical about presenting where they got
the information from, because magically alot of them are just leaving that part
out. And I have to saythat, as someone who's been an activist
in this space for about three anda half years now, that's really really
frustrating and disappointing, because if youwant people to be doing like, if
you want people to be doing thistype of journalism, this type of journalism
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is time intensive, it is laborintensive, and it put me in physical
danger to do this. And soif it's not even going to be acknowledged
where it came from, like thatseems a little a little shady to me.
Yeah, And I agree, Imean I think again, people don't
understand, uh, you know,the effort that you put in, and
they're just seeing maybe the quote onTwitter or whatever and they're grabbing it.
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And there certainly is a balance betweenthe exposure. But I just I just
think, yeah, credit, creditneeds to be provided to you that you
know, this is an amazing pieceof information. And if that wasn't disgusting
enough for people to listen to this, this lady Jules Grill Peterson, Jules
gil Peterson, I guess, ohyeah, yeah, so I want to
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play this clip and then play herfollow up clip, and it talks about
basically trying to have rights for childsex trafficked sex workers, and I just
again as a father of two girls, it blew my mind. Right,
So this is about two minutes,and again knowing that the recording equipment you
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know, wasn't able to get thisgreat but I think this is really important
stuff to understand that this socialist conference, just the people that are there are
talking about stuff like this. Solet's listen. Thank you both. First
of all, thank you both.I really appreciate your work. My nationale
and I in the sex works,sex work activists, justice, capitalism and
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sex work and we've been dealing withthe top sex panicking of a child,
sex tracking, conspracy theories for Phillynineties, and I had never told this
panel has been like, humph,what about young people in the sex what
about young people in children's liberation vision? Like it's just like a utopia I
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had never really followed for because theworld feels so separated and the issue of
you know, youth and sex workis so incredibly loaded, Like I don't
even know if i'd asked this questionfor Steam the last dream, Like it
was just so like you're you're rollinginto a lot of trouble when you start
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talking about the rights of young peoplein the sex industry. But young people
in the sex industry deserve and needsright at minimum actually liberation and justice and
thank you. So I mean itjust again, it blows my mind that
I think you had mentioned that nobodywas saying, hey, wait, time
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out, like why are we talkingabout kids as sex workers in the beginning,
Like why don't we spend time tomake sure kids are not in the
sex industry, but instead they're tryingto make sure that they have rights.
I mean, I just feel yeah, I mean, you know that was
probably for me, the most shockingthing that I heard at the entire conference.
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But you know, I mean so, so here's the thing that people
need to understand. So socialists donot see children as children. They see
them as little adults. They seethem as adults in little bodies. It's
kind of like scientologists and so onone hand, I kind of understand this
thought process in terms of they don'twant to criminalize sex work because they don't
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want to make things more difficult onthese kids than it already is. But
from my perspective, it's like,why are we enabling kids to be involved
in sex work at all? Like, like, and I have to tell
you, like when this clip Igot brought up at the conference, I
this was this was a moment whereit's very hard for me not to react
because again I was like literally sittingright next to the person who did it,
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and I could not believe the wordsthat I could hear, we're hearing
coming out of my mouth, likesome kids just need to be sex workers.
Well, no, some kids don'tneed to be sex workers. And
if kids are in a position ofbeing forced into a situation where they have
to do that type of work,our priority should not be making it easier
for them to do the work.Our priorities should be getting them out of
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it. And so it was verybizarre for me to hear just the utter
lack of reaction in the room andlooking at it from that perspective. Yeah,
and then and then you've got this. So this professor John Hopkins basically
answers this u chanelo I guess hername, was that all they gotta do
is create a project and get otherpeople involved and then kind of creating mass
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movement for it. So we've gotthis clip as well. But in sort
of departing from you know, alwaysreacting to moral panics which are just you
know, kind of impossible to wrapit with on their own terms, how
are we also developing strategies of yeah, building confidence building, like the capacities
of courage, and like truly asense of solidarity so that you know,
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for example, if you're part ofour project trying to think about the you
know, young people's role in effectof this, right, that one of
the ways you might feel like you'reyou know, going to be able to
lend time and energy to that effort, is it it doesn't feel like you'll
you can be hung as to dryalone for an at turning. So a
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mass movement has a kind of persuasivevalue. And I don't mean confidence as
in like detached kind of you know, sort of a neutral appe. This
could be boisterous, angry, right, I mean that that could be whatever
it is. But I do thinkthere's something to me about just the feeling
of inga you know, emotionally politicallyright now, right where the the authoritarian
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side is very loud, is verybrash, is it ravels in its own
perversity, and you know, isjust kind of enjoyed the exercise of power
and not saying our task is tomirror that bice. But you know,
thinking about sort of what that kindof exercise of mass political ages it would
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feel like and how it would presentitself seems really important to me for breaking
with some of the really deep politicizingand actually just like excruciating aspects of trying
to do work in solidarity with youngpeople, especially around general sexuality. We're
also let's just say, like,you know, so many of us bring
our own personal experience negative experience tohow young people, our own experiences with
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violence, with traumas that are obviouslyyou know, we can't dissociate for us
the work that we do. Sothat was just one thing I really wanted
to up their line. Is thatreally it was really moving to me,
It was really moving to her jewels, Yeah, jewels, Gil Peterson,
Professor of History, JOHNS. Hopkins. Has there been any reaction? Did
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anybody at John Hopkins reach out toyou afterwards? Or is it just like
no, no, there's not reallyAnd actually, to be honest with you,
a lot of the people who claimto care about grooming of children never
shared that clip, which I findto be a little disheartening if I'm honest
about it, But I will.I want to say one more thing about
Jules Gale Peterson. So I actuallyhave Juleshale Skeeerterson. I knew who she
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was like about a month ago becauseI caught her in a keynote at Lewis
and Clark College advising college students todo do it yourself hormones for transition.
This was a keynote at Lewis andClark College. And so yeah, she's
she's an interesting one. Yeah,yeah, interesting interesting groomer. Uh,
you know, he's getting paid taxpayerdollars to push this ideology, you know,
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and on kids. It's just Imean, here in Maine, our
governor Janet Mills, uh, youknow, one of the worst governors in
her history, just recently passed alaw that made prostitution legal in Maine for
sex workers, but not for thejohn asking for the sex. So the
person paying for sex would still bearrested for prostitution, but the prostitute no
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longer will be held accountable for themtrying to quote unquote earn a living,
which is really what the same personis saying here at this conference. Hey,
you know, kids, sex workers, they're got to earn a living.
They've got to eat. I mean, they've got to pay the rent.
So let's just make sure they havelaws. Like, No, what's
thet cause of the issue. Theroot cause of the issue is these kids
shouldn't be working in the sex industry. I mean, geez, like right,
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And so it's like it's like Ialmost want to acknowledge that, Like,
listen, socialists are not wrong onehundred percent of the time, right,
They're not. I mean, Idon't think that people in the sex
industry, which is a kind ofdesperate No, No one grows up and
says I want to be a sexworker when I grow up, right,
But I don't think they should becriminalized. I don't think they should be
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putt in a cage for doing that. As you said, there's a root
cause of the problem, and soit's kind of it's one of those things
that it's a little the clip isinflammatory, and I kind of wanted it
to be a little bit inflammatory,to be honest to you know, help
people see what's going on. Butat the same time, it is a
little bit more of a nuanced discussionabout Okay, what do we actually do
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about this and what is the appropriatereaction. Yeah, and I agree if
it was more along the discussion of, hey, we have a problem.
We know they have a problem.Let's let's work on trying to get these
kids out of this situation, oryou know, fix the root cause,
which could be a family issue oreducation issue, or you know whatever societal
issue. But yeah, to justjump to you know, hey, yeah
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they need rights for sex workers forkids just crazy. So, so you
mentioned a little bit about some ofthe reaction of these bombshell reports, Maybe
maybe tell a little bit about again, you worked so hard on these things
and you've brought them to life hereand they're getting exposure. Maybe you know,
again, what's what's the overall reactionbeen? Have you seen anybody and
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we'll talk a little bit about tryingto fund some of your activities here.
Has anybody come to you and say, hey, look, I really value
what you did. Let me makea donation, let me help you out.
Can I pay for some of theexpenses or is it pretty much just
yeah, it's getting out there,you know. Uh So, I'm very
very lucky and very blessed that Ihave a nice space of grass roots funding
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from people who donate eight dollars amonth or eighty dollars for a year as
a member of my substack, whichis Carlin ka r l y n dot
substack dot com. I have payingsupporters in my local community on my Patreon,
et cetera, et cetera. SoI'm I'm I'm in a better position
than I think a lot of activistsbecause I do have just normal people out
there who are funding my work.And that's the way I want it to
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be quite honest. Now, hasanyone come to me and says, Carlin,
you're doing really groundbreaking journalism and havebeen for two and a half years
and we'd like to make this alittle bit easier on you now that hasn't
happened. You know, I've saida bunch of times like, you know,
if I won the Mega millions,I would I would bring everybody that
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i've i've you know, interacted withthe last three years together at some massive
meeting and make sure they got youknow, funded, And you know,
we're able to talk and just likethe turning point USA for the little guys
to some degree. But but it'sgood. I mean, you mentioned,
you know, you've got an actactively unwoke dot com, slash support,
You've got some pretty cool artwork atunwoke Art. Yeah, you've got a
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locals community and Patreon, two thingsI haven't done. And then your book
Actively Unwoke is available on Amazon andother purchasing options. And really, you
know, you mentioned on your webpage that it's really sharing your work with
other people. And again, tome, the exposures what we're fighting really
at foremost right now, I don'tbelieve we have enough exposure out there of
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these things. Even though there's alot of us talking. I still say
that here in my home state,nine out of ten parents have no idea
what I'm talking about. So it'sreally trying to share each other's work and
really try to, you know,widen that message out and widen the voice
out. And you've been killing it. So I do appreciate what you've you've
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been doing here. It's really amazing. Well, I I appreciate that,
and I mean I too. Iwould love to someday if there's a way
to bring the real activists together,because as you know, like they're just
honestly arts at many of us totalk and to share tactics and stuff like
that. I think that that wouldactually be an incredibly valuable thing. So
maybe someone will fund that someday.That would be pretty great. But on
the same point, I think thatI agree with you that sharing the information
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is the most important thing. AndI think that, you know, even
if people can't fund the work fromtheir favorite activists or whatever, what they
can always do is share it outto their platforms. They can share it
out to their Facebook or their Twitteror whatever platform, or just even sending
it to their friends and family members. And you know, some people think
that that doesn't really have much ofan impact because they don't have these big
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platforms or whatever. But that's theonly way that you can ever change the
world is by sharing this information withmore people. And so I see it
as my role to show people what'sgoing on, provide their receipts, break
it down in a way so normalpeople can understand it. And so I'm
giving people the tools to share thisout with their friends and family so they
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can explain to people what's going on. But once I share it, other
people have to take it from there. And so if they gets shared out
far and wide, that is completelya function of what other people do with
the information. And I just haveto cross my fingers and hope that they
that they take that action. Yeah, no doubt. And I really appreciate
your time, and doctor Carlin Borsenko, I really really hope that we hear
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more about this conference. I'm sureyou've got some other things up your sleeve,
but these three or four that havecome out with the last week are
just big bombshells. And I hopemore parents, more taxpayers, you know,
even more librarians are saying, jeez, I don't really want to be
part of a socialist Marxist program.Uh. You know, I still love
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the United States and think that weshould be trying to teach kids how to
read. You know, you youwould think it would be pretty easy,
right, so but I certainly appreciateit. Let me put you on pause
and we'll pick up a little bitafter the break. Here, hold on
a second. So in closing,if you've if you listen to this whole
podcast, my voice again is justtotally garbage. But I had a at
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a great time last night at aconcert and just rock and rolled with the
Pantera. So somebody I've listened toway back in the days where I was
lifting and working out in the gym, and anyway, I yelled a lot,
So my voice is gone. Soyou know, again we're talking about
exposure. We're really talking about theactivists and the advocates that are out there
doing this work, bringing parents andtaxpayers, students, librarians, teachers,
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this information about how bad this plotto destroy America is from this Marxist socialist
agenda and again this American Library Associationsituation. So, as I've mentioned before,
I am on the board of directorsfor the World Library Association that is
a common sense alternative to the AmericanLibrary Association, and anybody that wants to
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find out more about that. Idid do a podcast with Dan Kleman about
a month or so ago, maybefour or five, six weeks ago,
and you can find it on thepodcast page but World Library Association dot org
or follow us on Twitter w LibraryA. And the last thing here,
I'm going to play and I justgot this from Dan today. This is
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a clip of the American Library AssociationOffice for Intellectual Freedom. And I've spoken
about intellectual freedom in the past thatis basically just a marketing campaign for pornography
in the schools, And so thisperson basically is going to talk about how
you just really need to turn thenarrative and stop talking about porn and start
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talking about all of this intellectual freedomnonsense. But ultimately, we've found that
the thing that needs to happen most, and it needs to happen before these
bills are introduced, is sustained messagingthat reframes this issue, that takes it
away from the idea that these areinappropriate for miners, are sexually inappropriate for
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miners, and promote them as diversematerials and programming that are about inclusion,
fairness, and the protection of everybody'sright to see themselves and their families reflected
in the books in the public library. Yeah. So this lady, our
name is Deborah called well Stone,is a full blown crazy pants and she
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is basically again saying, hey,look, if you I mean the just
the perverse pornography we've seen in theschools and we've continued to report on is
incredible and for folks like this.For this again, Deborah called well Stone
to try to say that it's notreally inappropriate, it's not really sexualized.
If you can't read them on anews report and you can't print them in
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a newspaper, and you can't postthem on fakebook because they'll take it down
for indies and exposure of miners,you shouldn't be able to put it in
the hands of a kid in alibrary or in a classroom. It's as
easy as that. So again,I appreciate you listening to the podcast.
I'll try to kick a couple moreout next week. Hopefully this weekend.
I'll take it easy and let myvoice rest here a little bit. But
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I do appreciate everybody listening, andhope you share the podcast with your friends
and family, and let's keep exposingwhat's happening. I had a great story.
The other day, my wife toldme that a lady approached her at
church, somebody that we didn't know, and said, hey, just tell
your husband that you got another oneto pull their kid out of the public
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school. And these these parents pulledtheir child out of one of the local
public schools here in Maine and ishomeschooling them. And man, that that
made my entire week to just knowthat somebody has been listening, somebody is
understanding what's happening, and they've madethe decision for their child, the best
decision they've ever made, to pullthem out of public school. So again,
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thanks for listening, folks about it. Round them up at school,
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