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September 19, 2023 • 49 mins
Today on the Maine Source Of Truth I welcome Nicole Neily, founder and President of Parents Defending Education.

Through network and coalition building, investigative reporting, litigation, and engagement on local, state, and national policies, she is fighting indoctrination in the classroom and promoting the restoration of a healthy, non-political education for our kids.


You can find her on Twitter @NickiNeily and @DefendingEd and online at Defendinged.org where you can submit anonymous tips on your local school indoctrination issues.


We will touch on book bans and the Chinese communist party infiltrating our local schools with big payoffs.


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Today on the Main Source of Truth. I welcome to Cole Neely, founder
and president of Parents Defending Education throughnetwork and coalition building, investigative reporting,
litigation, and engagement on local,state, and national policies. She's fighting
the indoctrination of the classroom and promotingthe restoration of a healthy, non political
education for our kids. You canfind her at Nikki Neely with an Eye
and Defending Ed and online at defendinged dot org, where you can submit

(00:23):
anonymous tips on your local school indoctrinationissues. We'll touch on book bands and
the Chinese Communist Party infiltrating our schoolswith big payoffs. This is the Main
Source of Truth podcast and very fewparents upset anything, but Sean mcbriarty did.
Sean mcbriarty is in the faults focustoday. Sean, though, how
pervasive is that in our school?Sean mcbriarty joins us now he just won

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this lawsuit and gets forty thousand dollarsfrom the school board. Good morning sewn
his most dangerous dad apparently, howare you are? You'll be a working
still by a local district for exfoldingthe transgender library dislike? Can you explain
to what's would happen? Hey?You all, so with everything that's going
on to be dispositive just like outwhole mail. Yeah, I'll the overcepcilization

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of books and libraries at the pooland then like you put the handle on
that that's you to support that.I asked you to support this podcast if
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onto the show. All right,listeners. Today is September nineteen, twenty
twenty three, As were recorded aseason two episode seventy seven, This is
going to be Nicole Neely parents DefendingEducation. I was thinking to myself as
I did that intro, I guessour Twitter handle at Nikki Neely is actually
with three eyes, so I kindof messed that up. But anyway,
as I do a Bible verse here, I wanted to go and kind lock

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in on something that talked about tyrannyand tyrannical rule and kind of the communism
aspect. And I found out Isaiahfive twenty woe to those who call evil
good and good evil, who putdarkness for light and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet and sweetfor bitter. This is what kids are
getting fed in schools. They're beingtold something that isn't reality. And then

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they're not being told through lies ofomission, something we've seen with the lawyers
up here a Drummond Woodson. They'renot being told the whole truth. It's
just the half truths and lies ofemission. So, as far as updates
today, I want to give youa little update on the fourth Drummond Woodson
article. I've got more in thehopper here, but I want to tell
you a little bit about this.So as we've been exposing Drummond woods in

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the legal bullying arm of the maineducational system, here's my intro paragraph.
Drummond Woodson appears willing to back upthe state of main educational cabal's desire to
keep secrets from parents from behind thebrick walls of the k through twelve public
schools. They seem poised to supportstudents who have been brainwashed into believing they
become can become another sex by havingtheir gender affirmed, and that they don't

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always need to tell the parents what'shappening in school. It's horrible and out
of touch with the reality of thefourteenth Amendment, which says to parents they
have the fundamental right to control anddirect a child's education. So we go
through a lot of these This wasa training that Drummond Woodson did on LGBTQ
Political Nonsense back in October of lastyear, almost a year ago. And

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we've got some slides in here,and then we go through a lot of
the policies as well, policy ACAAA, which basically, now if your school
has policy ACAAA, and there's alsoan ACAA B, but ACAAA is the
policy that basically keeps secrets from parents. It is horrible that any school district

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would place these policies in. Firstoff, LGBTQ youth do not need in
their own separate policy. The transpolicy is nonsense. From their own words.
I've got video also up on myrumble channel, main source of truth.
I've got confidential student transgender student supportplans from Drummond, Wits and the
lawyers. So this is a longread. It's four thousand words. It's

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about twenty twenty five minutes to readit. But you're gonna go through some
examples Westbrook High School, going middleschool. This is gonna resonate to anybody
in the United States. I guaranteeyou your school, regardless of where your
school is, if it's in ared state, a blue state, whatever.
They could be working through this inthe policy Committee as well, and
those things are very important to getto. The other thing is I've partnered

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with Your News, which is apretty cool news site. If you go
there, it's it's pretty slick.It actually will bring up like in my
case, I don't know where theWi Fi bounces off of, but it
showed me in Bangormin, which isright next door. This features top stories,
local edition, national news, politics. There's all kinds of stuff here.

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And then anytime I post one ofthe news articles here and you read
it there on your News, whichis again your News dot com, I
actually get contributions, very small fractionsand pennies every time you read it,
so there is a little bit ofeconomic benefit there. Certainly, you can
go to my substack, which isreally easy to find. It is Sean
mcbriorty dot substack dot com. Butif you go to your News and search

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for some of my information. Iput it out on social media at Sean
mcbriorty would love a follow I've toldpeople for years I have this Twitter envy.
I think I just broke forty eighthundred followers. But it's like,
you know, it's tough. We'reup here in Maine. There's not a
lot of people that are really engagedon this, and we just we need
more people. So the next thingI'm gonna talk about is our upcoming guest,

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Nicole Neely, and really her capitol. He'll beat down from last week.
And like I said, I kindof joke with her. She might
be a sister from another mother.You know. She reminds me Nicole Soulis
and reminds me of myself. Whenwe go into these situations, we just
bring the heat and bring the truthand the left loses their mind. German

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German Ranking Member Graham and distinguished membersof the Committe, thank you for inviting
me today. My name is Nicoleo'neli, and I'm the president of Parents
Defending Education, a membership association thatgives parents the knowledge and tools they need
to be effective advocates for their children'seducation. Yes, books have become a
flashpoint in schools over the past fewyears. Yet headlines and research papers by
activist organizations have intentionally muddied the watersbetween World War two book burning and what's

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happening in America's K to twelve schools. If you hear one thing today,
know this family's concerns about books andschools are not book banning. First,
the book issue is a curation issue. It should be obvious that a book
that is part of a lesson planand a second grade classroom is more concerning
than a book that can be voluntarilychecked out from a public library, and

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also that sensitive topics read to childrenat very young ages is more concerning than
high schooler is learning about the humanbody and health class But today, merely
suggesting that kids who believe in SantaNot have unfettered access to graphic sexual novels
is tantamount to murder. In Connecticut, one resident said that the school boards
desire to put parental consent rules inplace for a few books described as obscene
and explicit was quote a matter oflife and death. It's not. When

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we do hear from parents about books, the phrase that we hear the most
frequently is age appropriate. Radical Indeed, school boards across the country cut the
mics on parents who read passages fromthese books, stating this is inappropriate.
There are children in the room,Yet those same books are being provided to
children in schools. While it mayseem politically convenient to scapegoat parents, I

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ask you to read some of theseexplicit paragraphs and look at these sexual images
with your children or your grandchildren,and then tell your constituents whether you consider
such content educational. As a society, we don't put Playboy in kindergartens.
This isn't considered a book band.But common sense, strangely, meet a
coverage over this issue frames any discussionat all as tyranny. It is disingenuous

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at best and deceptive at worst.Classrooms, schools, and libraries have finite
space and must select which materials areon display at any given time. Nor
do they have unlimited budgets, somust prioritize certain purchases over others. How
these decisions are made and who isinvolved in that process is a matter of
public accountability. Yet when people askquestions, they are crucified, pretending that

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objections to miners accessing explicit sexual contentis a threat to liberty and literature is
a straw man and a distraction fromreal concerns about the quality of children's education
and whether students are safe in school. Second, the book issue as a
parental awareness issue. It is notpartisan to assert that children do better when

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their families know what's going on intheir lives. This isn't rocket science.
The more information parents have, thebetter they can support their kids emotionally and
academically. America has a youth mentalhealth crisis. Yet while school's lobby for
increased mental health funding, for whichthe federal government has provided hundreds of millions
of dollars, they are exacerbating thatproblem. When kids are given assignments beyond

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their comprehension level that even adults findchallenging violence, war crimes, rape,
incest, and more, it shouldcome as no surprise children become depressed or
hopeless. Books from schools should bediscussed with loved ones, perhaps provide historical
context or another perspective. Parents knowtheir young learners, quirks and preferences,
and whether certain material might resonate withor would be appropriate for if their loved

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ones. These decisions may differ betweenchildren in the same family at the same
age based on factors like maturity andsensitivity. Children deserve an education that meet
their specific needs. You When familiesask to simply know when children have act
what their children at access to,or may wish to put guard rails and
material for children of certain ages,they're pilloried in the public square. Such

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public flagellation is intended to not onlyextract a pound of flesh from the perpetrator,
but to send a message to anyother parent with similar reservations. Speak
up and the mob will come foryou too. Far, too many schools
keep families at arm's length, whichcould not come at a worse time.
Kids would benefit if the adults intheir lives work together in their best interest,
but families are now considered adversaries,not even entitled to basic information about

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their children. In Wisconsin, oneschool district's teacher training sessions stated parents are
not entitled to know their kids' identities. That knowledge must be earned. My
organization has documented over a thousand districtsacross the country with parental exclusion policies which
state that families don't have a rightto know their child's gender identity in a
taxpayer funded school. And finally,it is not evil to want to be

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involved in your child's education. Everytime a parent is falsely accused of wanting
to ban a book because of reasonableconcerns about subject matter of appropriateness, neighbors
are pitted against each other based ondishonest premises. This is a deliberate attempt
to demonize parents and to chill boththeir speech and activism. Twenty years ago,

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if a six year old went toschool and talked about sex, teachers
would assume that that child was beingabused. In twenty twenty three, children
are not only learning about sex atschool, but are being told to keep
secrets from their families as well.Please stop mocking parents, Please stop name
calling. Please listen to the familieswho want their children to learn basic gram
rather than be policed on pronouns,who want their children to read at grade

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level and not taken out of classfor political rallies, who want their young
children's innocence to be preserved for afew years longer than an activist academic might
insist. We are your constituents too, Thank you outstanding, And I'm going
to give her a truth bomb forthat one. I like that, So

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let's connect the dots. To myfavorite school district, MSAD fifty one in
Cumberland, Maine, where I livefor twenty two years and one of the
best cell phones ever. The lyingnarcissist groomer superintendent Jeff Porter emails parents that
he is responsible for the massive amountof porn in the MSAT fifty one school
libraries in Cumberland, Maine. Heshows that policy i JJ quote the superintendent,

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in consultation with administrators and professional staff, is responsible for selecting appropriate educational
and library materials. Porter approves ofporn. It's simple as that. As
I said in my tweet, caseclosed, he has nearly one hundred titles
that are not suitable for miners,that are pervasively vulgar, and are not
educationally suitable per the US Supreme CourtEducation versus Pico. His own library system

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flags books as adult you know,eighteen plus not thirteen plus. Groomers are
gonna groom. This is the hypersexualization of miners. And then as I
was working through this actually got atext. So the headline is parents pushed
back against pornographic books and libraries atchaotic Maine school board meeting. So Edward

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Tomac of Main Wire, the cisgot posted a few minutes ago and it
says here parents in the MSc DO, a fifty one school district, pushed
back against pornographic books. The brewhaha follows the July meeting, which was
abruptly adjourned following one Cumberland parents ScottJordan, raising his concerns to the board
about sexually explicit books Gender Queer inthe Greeley High School. The Cumberland Police

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Chief Chief Rumsey decides that it's it'sokay to have porn in the schools.
He's not going to investigate that orreally you know, talk to anybody in
the schools about it. But anyway, longs for sure with this situation.
He goes on and talks about whyhe was interrupted. He actually has a
big poster board of Gender Queer inwhich these two girls, one with a

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strap on dildo, is getting oralsex from another girl. That's in the
book. I mean, those arethings that are in Gender Queer. It's
not something that is educationally. Theauthor of Gender Queer said she made the
book for adults, not for kids, not for thirteen year olds. So
the videos online Mainwire definitely ties intowhat's going on here and it's just completely

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insane. And then I'm gonna playSenator Kennedy my hero. This guy is
one of the funniest guys on CapitolHill. He just has this way about
him. He's very, very smart, intellectual, but he kind of comes
off a little goofy. Yeah,let's listen to his words up on Capitol
Hill. And again the far left, their heads were rolling after this.
I confess I'm a little confused,and I appreciate the argument that we've our

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discussion that we've been having, butfor me, it's a little too conceptual
or I don't know, metaphysical,theological, or whatever you want to call
it. I want to try tounderstand what you're asking us to do.
Let's take two books that have beenmuch discussed. The first one is called
All Boys Aren't Blue, and Iwill quote from it. I put some

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lube on and got him on hisknees and I began to slide into him
from behind. I pulled out ofhim and kissed him while he masturbated.
He asked me to turn over whilehe slipped a condom on himself. This
was my ass and I was strugglingto imagine someone inside me. He got

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on top and slowly inserted himself intome. It was the worst pain I
think I have ever felt in mylife. Eventually I felt a mix of
pleasure with the pain. Close quote, All Boys Aren't Blue. The second
is another much discussed book. I'msure you're familiar with it. It's called

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Gender Queer. Let me read anexcerpt from that quote. I got a
new strap strap on harness today.I can't wait to put it on you.
It will fit my favorite dildo perfectly. You're going to look so hot.
I can't wait to have your cockin my mouth. I'm going to

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give you the blowjob of your life. Then I want you inside of me.
End quote. Now, mister secretary, what are you asking us to
do? And I mentioned that thelast podcast that you know he asked the
question of the secretary. Nobody reallyknows what to do because again the Left
only wants to try to I mean, they can't defend their position. This

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is pornography, It is hardcore,it is gross, it is disgusting.
Kids do not need to be readingthis. Again. If a parent wants
to buy this online, that's anotherthing. I don't agree with it,
but that's their parental right. FourteenthAmendment. Right, if they want to
teach your kids about strap on dildos, hey, it's up to them.
But again, this connection is allthe way from Capitol Hill to Little Cumberland,

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Maine, a town of ten thousandpeople in southern Maine, which again
their school board is full of Americancommunists and socialists and just crazy Democrats.
But Jeff Porter, proudly serving asMSD fifty one Superintendent of Schools Cumberland North
Yarmouth, Maine, self own heis responsible for putting all that trash in
the schools. I also want tobring you Nicole Neely's information that she brought

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at the House of Representatives hearing todayon the communist Chinese Party infiltrating our schools.
So here it is again, NicoleNeely on Twitter with three eyes Chairman,
being ranking member of BONAMICI and distinguishedmembers of the subcommittee, thank you
for inviting me. My name isNicole Neelie and I am the present apparents
of any education. We began researchingforeign funding and ca to twelve schools in

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March when a parent of Virginia's ThomasDufferson High School for Science and Technology provided
records showing that the school received overa million dollars from Chinese government linked entities.
A few weeks ago, a FairfaxCounty Schools revealed these donations actually total
three points six million dollars. Afour PTA board member told us that in
exchange for these gifts, the donorswere allowed to quote look under the hood
at how the school was run,including floor plans, lesson plans, and

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student research projects. So we wondered, was this happening elsewhere and if so
where. Unfortunately, trying to naildown the scope of this problem is difficult
by design. These programs have existedin American schools for years, but much
of it went underground following Secretary Divaceand Secretary Pumpeio's efforts to reign in Confucius
institutes. We combed through publicly availabledata and filed dozens of foyas across the

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country, access contracts on these programs, and trace money flowing through intermediary organizations
such as the Assiety and the CollegeBoard to districts. We found it over
the past decade over seventeen million dollarsto flow to one hundred forty three districts
and private k to twelve schools acrossthirty four states in DC. This is
likely a low figure given that boththe US State Department and the Senate have
estimated hundreds more programs in existence.This sum is only what we have been

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able to verify. But the moneydoesn't just flow from China to US schools.
In some districts, they actually spenttaxpayer money on this programming. In
Nevada, Clark County schools paid overtwoe or fifty thousan dollars in salary and
benefits to Chinese teachers. We learnedthat we need to follow not only inflows,
but also outflows. Aside for money, also consider the teachers. Many
districts use educators provided by the People'sRepublic of China, but these teachers are

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not neutral. In March twenty nineteen, President Jijing Ping called in educators to
instill patriotism in the country's youth andreject wrong ideas and ideology. Educators who
express opinions about falling Gong or criticizedparty leadership lose their jobs, so remaining
teachers are there true believers or havebeen counted into silence. A foyer from
teaching included names of teachers who visitedin twenty seven. Five of the six

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were CCP members, with one receivingan award for being an outstanding Communist.
Another delegation several months later featured aVIP guest, the party's secretary from Jeju
Provincial Education Education Department. As employees, four nationals are given access to district
servers and student information PDEs work identifiedtwenty districts around the country located near military
bases, and we believe that basecommanders deserve to know whether potentially hostile foreigners

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may have access to data about thechildren of military personnel. Finally, there
are curriculum concerns. Multiple contracts referencebooks and curriculum being provided from confucious institutes
are partner universities in China. Acontract from one California districts stated that textbooks,
reference materials, and av materials wouldbe provided by Yunon Normal University,
a school designated medium risk by theAustralian Strategic Policies too because of the university's

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research on ethnic minorities and ties tothe government's Ethnic Affairs bureaucracy. Parents and
administrators do not know what curriculum isbeing used in these classrooms and must defer
to teachers who were hand selected andvetted by the PRC. What might this
look like in practice. A twentyseventeen documentary shows a student at the University
of Michigan singing at a Confucius Instituteconcert, but chairman Mouth nurtures the people
on this land, a slap inthe face to the forty million Chinese citizens

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who died during the Mau Created famine. As parents, we deserve to know
whether hostile nations are pumping propaganda intoour children's heads. Some parents may wish
to ask their school to hire ateacher from Taiwan instead. Well. Others
might want their students to take adifferent foreign language class. I am a
mama Wolverine, and I want myson and daughter to be taught true history
about the weaker genocide, one childpolicy, and the repression of distance like

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Jimmy Lay, not the alleged virtuesof communism. America needs greater transparency around
foreign funding in our schools. Familieslack basic information, so they cannot make
informed choices about whether they want theirchildren to participate in these programs. As
you said, this is a matterof national security. Over the past year,
and it has become abundantly clear thatAmerica has not fully appreciated the foreign

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threats aren't just overseas. They're alsoon our shores. From farmland purchases of
by balloons, secret police stations tobattery factories. Our country's openness is being
weaponized against us. In July,we sent letters to governors asking them to
investigate this issue in their states.Unfortunately, few seem to consider this an
issue of concern. We ask thatyou use your influence to communicate the acute
nature of this danger to politicians inyour respective states. Our other request is

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one of oversight. We believe thatit would be constructive use of the FBI's
investigative power to research China's influence inAmerican education, both to monitor programs still
in existence and determine the extent ofthe damage that has been brought to date.
This might be a better use ofthe bureau's finite resources than investigating school
board parents, a directive still enforcedtoday because Attorney General Garlands October twenty twenty
one memo has never been rescinded.As members of Congress, you swore oaths

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to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic I ask you today
to uphold this oath in order toprotect not only our constitution but also our
children. Thank you. This conversationwith Nicole Neelie, I think is very
important. She has been on CapitolHill now twice. Her organization, Parents
Defending Education is just killing it outthere. They've got some great content online

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and I really hope that again youcan get more main parents, more parents
across this United States to understand what'sin front of them and what their kids
are going through every single day behindthe brick walls of these schools. Originally
from Chicago from the suburbs, shethen moved from California to Washington, DC.
She leads a grassroots organization working toreclaim our schools from activists imposing harmful
agendas. They have an indoctrination mapon their website which I could easily spend

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an entire day on updating from Maineand I might just have to work on
that. Through networking and coalition building, investigative reporting, litigation, and engagement
on local, state, and nationalpolicies. She's fighting for really the classroom
and promoting the restoration of a healthy, non political education for our kids.
She's also the founder of Free SpeechNational Campus Free Speech Organization, and has

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worked at the Independent Women's Forum inthe Cato Institute. You can find her
on Twitter at Nikki Neely Nicki withan Eye, and at Defending ed and
online at defending ed dot org,where you can submit anonymous tips for your
local school in documentation issues. Shebelieves that sunshine is the best disinfectant.
She's a mama Wolverine, a parentof an eight year old and a nine

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year old. She's also a loverof breakfast tacos. And I welcome Nicole
o' neely, founder and president ofParents Defending Education to the main Source of
truth podcast. So, Nicole,I really appreciate your time today. You've
been you've been all over the placein the last couple of weeks, and

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we'll speak to that, but Ijust just want to say thank you for
spend some time with the listeners today, No thank you. Is it unfortunately
a target rich environment, so there'sa lot of things to take on,
no doubt, so we've got alot to speak about in a short amount
of time. But if you couldtell the listeners a little bit how you
got into the situation of taking upthe charge to expose the K through twelve
schools and really create parents defending education. Sure, so I used to run

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a campus pree speech group named SpeechFirst and le food the universities that violated
student's First Amendment right, which iswas totally fun. I seried a bunch
of schools around the country, includingboth my alma mater and my husband's alma
mater, which makes super awkward whenthey called the astronomy. But in the
summer of twenty twenty, when theworld was shut down, I read a

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Wold Street Journal interview with a superintendenceof a Chicago slutter near where I grew
up, and he thought he wasgoing to allow black and brown children to
go back for in person education beforewhite children in the name of anti racism.
And I started screaming in my computer. I was like, you get
innett. And I went to afriend and I said, I want to
start speech First for kay to twelve. I want to see these bad guys.

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And he was like, awesome,cools like we're in, but basically
like you're gonna need a bigger boathe's got. I think you're gonna have
to start from a different place.No one knows this is unconstitutional, And
I was like, what are youtalking about? Farre in mine? I
am married to a constitutional lawyer,and so we have dinner parties where we
talk about like Supporton's amendment. Weare super friend people. Yes, And

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I started started researching that campy andone thing that I realized is when you
talk about civil rights in an educationsetting, more often than not, it's
about colleges. It's about campus freespeech, it's about Leah Thomas, it's
about kangaroo courts for tenal ninth.It's not can my eight year old before
to use a pronoun, can myyou know, junior high daughter plain as

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four team as a boy, andso things like that, they're just as
not a lot of information out there. So I thought, all right,
well if it's not out there,and we'll build it as we went from
there. Well, that's it's amazing. I mean, you've really and when
did you start that again, yousaid twenty twenty one. I started working
on it in twenty twenty and yeah, we launched in March of twenty twenty
one, and it has been awild ride ever since. Yeah, I
mean I've been involved now for threeand a half years. Since my kids.

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Basically, we got a white supremacistletter from my school around the George
Floyd death as Minneapolis is burning theground and called us all white supremacists,
I think five or six times inthe letter, and that really sparked me
to get off the coach. Andso we've all kind of gone through that
the last few years. And itis amazing really since COVID and having parents
the ability to really look and seewhat's going on, a lot of people
have gotten involved. But so lastweek you went to Washington, DC to

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testify on the so called book banning, right, And when I watched your
testimony, I mean, you justbring the heat and the fire, and
you just I mean, you mightbe a sister from another mother of mine,
but really, so one of thethings you said was families are now
considered adversaries by public K through twelveschools if they speak out about the porn

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being pushed in the American in thelibraries, in the American Library Association.
So can you talk a little bitabout that situation in Capitol Hill. And
I don't know if that's your firsttime at Capitol Hill, if you've done
in a bunch, you're kind oflocal maybe that's a really good avenue for
you to be an advocate for.But tell us a little bit about going
to Capitol Hill and kind of goingthrough that process, and then we'll talk
a little bit Kennedy and those things. Yeah, it was my first time

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day in the Senate, which isterrifying. You know, it's a very
august body. And yeah it wasI found it really how does the imitating?
But it's a good topic, right, I mean when we hear from
parents through our tipline, through parentorganizations that we work with, they're concerned
about this issue of what do theirkids have access to? And then how
can they express concerns because more oftenthan not, when a parent says I'm

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not comfortable with it, they're madefun of by their teachers, by their
administrators, if they speak up ata school board, you know, they're
ducked by their communities. There isan intentional campaign really to ostracize and humanly
as these parents and make an exampleof them, sending a message sit down,
shut up, they're not your kids. There are because we know how
to do this, stay away.And I think that's something that really in

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COVID kind of threw into it withthrown into stark relief that parents were not
supposed to be part of this system. And I believe, you know,
I think so many of us.I remember sitting around with my husbands during
when schools were locked down and gettingtext messages from friends and they said,
you know, I want my kids. I don't want my kids school to
be closed. How do I getthem to reopen? And I was like,
oh, you sleep, summer child. You think they care about your

(27:59):
opinions? And I think that hasreally been something that has galvanized and gotten
so many people off the sidelines forthe past three years. Is No,
you may not hold me at arm'slength. They're my children. I want
to know what it's going on.I want to help my child. And
if you get between me and mychild, there will be hell to pay.
Yeah, no doubt, and thewhole lack of transparency, I think
is something we're seeing all across thenation. So did you light up or

(28:22):
did you squirm a bit? WhenSenator Kennedy started to read from the porn
books Gender Queer and All Boys Aren'tBlue? I did not light up.
I started to grimace, And soI had actually become a meme because I
don't know if the panel was sittingthere stony face, and I was,
I mean, it was a littlebit jarring right to hear him read those
passages that you know, it's onething to sort of read them on paper,

(28:45):
but said to hear I sitting youat senator, have those words come
on his mouth? I was like, ah, so it was, yeah,
well in our so I might Imight put together a super cut of
him and I so I spoke aboutall Boys Aren't Blue a couple of years
ago in our district here in Hampden, Maine. Kelsey Stillyoa, the twenty
twenty two main Teacher of the Year, had that book as a poster in

(29:07):
her classroom for eleven year olds inseventh or eighth grade and gave students incentives,
prizes and daily announcements to read thatstuff. And so, you know,
I think he should have kept readingsome of the really horrible parts.
But I do give him big propsbecause I know the far left is just
losing their mind. So and thenthe reaction from the author of Gender Queers,
She stated in an article I read, you know, it's a comic,

(29:29):
it's in full color, but itdoesn't mean it's for children, she
said, I originally wrote it formy parents, you know, So that's
that's the disconnection. It's like,look, nobody's banning books. It's all
about proper curation. That's one ofthe words you used last week, which
which I'm stealing. That's awesome aboutproper you know, sexualized content, standards,
about parental control, none of thosethings that we have in the library

(29:51):
right now. And Joe Biden's apparentlygonna hire a books are and a monitor
the book challenges because of everything thathappened last week, right and I think
a very disingenuous conversation is taking placeright now. Obviously Progressives has done polling
in this and they saying, okay, this schools well, people don't want
book spanning, but moving something froman elementary school to a high school is

(30:14):
not stanning, and it is completelygarbage to say so. And so we
see activist organizations like the American LibraryAssociation Kind America trying to muddy the waters,
trying to equate it too, andhe saying, you know what,
that's not appropriate for my eight yearold to read. Is not the same
as the Nazis burning books In nineteenthirties exactly. I mean, how dare
they? Yeah? And again it'sall about nomenclature, right, I mean,

(30:36):
we know the left just moves agoal post and they start creating different
words and different acronyms, and it'slike you get kind of confused and wrapped
up in what's really going on.But so amazing timing. You went to
back to Washington, DC, theHouse of Representative this morning to speak about
a bombshell investigation that Parents Defending Educationtook on. And I want to set
this up a little bit. Soit talks about the Combating the Lives of

(30:57):
Authoritarians and School System Act, sponsoredby Republican Caucus Chairwoman Elise Stephanic from New
York, a Republican, in whichit would require any school it receives federal
funding to refuse funding from the ChineseCommunist Party or the People's Republic of China.
And it was co sponsored by DavidJoyce, representative from Ohio, another

(31:18):
Republican, and David Case a Democratfrom Hawaii. I think they are I
think it was Hawaii. I'm notsure, okay. And so Parents Defending
Education dug in and they found outthat the CCP China is spending money in
our American schools with teachers that arecould be communists, and you know,
nobody learns about communists anymore. Thedeaths of millions of Chinese, a totalitarian

(31:41):
regime to bet Taiwan Tanement Square,it's just not spoken anymore in these classrooms.
So talk a little bit about someof the investigation, and I've got
some details here that can kind ofjump in on. But to me,
this is a very interesting thing,and I'm going to make a main connection
as we could get down into thisa little bit further. Sure, So
we has actually started in March ofthis year because apparent in Northern Virginia flag

(32:06):
that the nation's former number one topSTEM school in the country had received over
a million dollars from CPP military entities, and I thought, working year,
we started digging into it. Wefiled a bunch of public reference requests.
What we thought, well, ifthis is happening here, isn't happening anywhere
else. And so my co workerfor months hours nine nineties publicly available records,

(32:27):
he filed dozens of public records arounda country and we have we ended
up coming up with one hundred fortythree districts around a country that have received
money from the Chinese Communist Party topeer feelings entities in the past ten years.
And there in mind, this wasfrankly a low ball number. This
is just what we could physically prove, because there have been entities, including

(32:49):
the US States Department and the USSenate that have said that this is orders
of magnitude larger, you know,hundred five hundred district tronic country, and
so this is really just the tipof the iceberg. But we thought,
well, this is just something elsethe parents don't know about, and why
are we kept in the dark aboutso many of these things. We want
to make informed decisions about what ourchildren weren't and if we're being you know,

(33:09):
the wool is held over eyes andwe're being pushed away to the school
house states, we can't make thosedecisions. Yeah, And it said in
the Washington Examiner, American students arebeing force fed Chinese Communist Party propaganda as
school systems nationwide except significant funding fromthe CCP linked financial institutions. And you
mentioned one hundred and forty three districts, thirty four states, seventeen million in

(33:30):
CCP funding from two thousand and nineto two thou twenty three, of which
twenty of these schools were right nearmilitary bases and five hundred nineteen confusust classrooms,
which we'll talk about, but themilitary based piece. You were asked
a couple of questions today because weknow that these systems. I mean,
we've got Herman the next town overfor me that's gone through a full blown

(33:51):
IT audit from the town. Theirsystems, they're just cracking all over the
place. It's very interesting that ofthese twenty school in your military basis.
Just think of if you have kidsin that school system, does the CCP
now have a book on those kids? I mean, it's certainly plausible,
right, And so if foreign nationalsare school employees, they have access to

(34:13):
the student database, they have accessto a lot of information, and that's
just kind of you know, thecomputer stuff. But then years aldso what
questions are they asking. I mean, you know, I joke today I
have an eight year old and anine year old. I mean, they
tell everybody everything about me past theGarbage County Archery store, knows like what
I do for a living. Andso, you know, kids are very
forthcoming, and at the same time, we also in schools across the country,

(34:34):
see them continually asking our students surveys. You know, under the guise
of social emotional learning, firms likePanorama Education doing all this stuff, collecting
data and even sometimes to school guidancecounts, are spending on Google forms.
How is that information secured? Whathappens to that information? On average,
two school districts a day are hack. I mean, we hear continuously about
ransomware, malware attacks from school districtsand so, and that's just from outside

(34:58):
forces. But we are ding thesepeople in the front door, and we
don't even know what they are taking. And that's me diverse further investigation.
I think it's a very amount ofproposal. Yeah, no doubt. And
you were you were charged thirty fourthousand dollars for the freedom of access information,
which I am very familiar with.I was told it was gonna be
twenty one grand my local Hampton RSUtwenty two school district. When I asked

(35:20):
about things like BLM and oppression andracism and ibramex Kendy and those kind of
things. I know you guys gotthat wien down, but this was this
was certainly not a free information packetthat you received, and again you mentioned
the Thomas Jefferson High School, whichunfortunately has fallen you think, you said
from first to seventh right in thenation, as far as the Stoom School.
So on one of the local mainschools which was on your website,

(35:44):
Oxford Hills MS eighty seventeen. Theytook eighty six hundred and thirty bucks for
Chinese language teaching. And it's fromthe Asia Society Museum, which allegedly collects
artifacts contemporary art, and Shocker hasthe Rockefeller Collection, and it was documented
back in August twenty twenty one actuallyby a guy here in Maine, Allan
Survenus, from the main group ParentsRights and Education, but he was never

(36:07):
able to fully vet that full storyout. So the Confucious Institute listed that
school in South Paris as a partnerschool online. So, you know,
what does the Asia Society push Besidescommunism? They pushed global competence, you
know. So one of the fourpillars on their websites is basically having students
become a little activists. So ittalks about taking appropriate action to improve conditions

(36:31):
within diverse audiences. And the presidentand the CEO of that company Asia Society
is paid like a million bucks,So I mean this is big business right
right, and it's you know this, So money in many cases used to
flow ten fifteen years ago directly fromChina over through a program called Convant and
then when Secretary to Boston, theSecretary of Pompeo during the Trump administration started

(36:53):
to dig into a crack down inthese programs, a lot of it went
on the grand but we saw moneyrunning through past their entity, like the
Asia Society, like college works,so still doing what they're doing. It's
harder to trade, which is tome, I mean kind of suspicious.
And that's why I wish that therewere more people who were cognizant of this
and aware of it, just becausewe should know. I would let me

(37:15):
just think, if there's an Americanteacher who's gone to China to go teach,
would they be able to spend theirday making fun of of of China,
you know, of the country thatthey're in. Absolutely not. Wouldn't
Chinese teacher come here and do itand prebbly be a warder to the isn't
get that in America in twenty twentythree, you set and so it's just
it's such a wild double standard.Probably it's obviously a hostile nation that the

(37:38):
fact that this was even controversial atall through my mind. Well, and
we'll get to that. I'm asecond here, But the interesting thing that
the Asia Society and these outstanding communistsare getting for their money is basically a
peak under the hood or a lookunder the hood, right, I mean
Chinese tours of schools, lesson plans, meetings with teachers, Chinese teachers inserted
into American schools like tax peers can'teven get a tour of their kids classroom

(38:02):
at this point. But they're rippingoff the STEM model and bringing it back
to China. I mean, it'sit's clearly there's some national security issues.
It's sort of a traderish betrayal.It's one of the terms. It was
used today in the hearing. Andit's just really another fracturing of trust and
transparency with the public. Right.And I mean, let's take a step

(38:23):
back. What are our children actuallylearning in school today? Right? That's
the most parents here about you assumewhen you send your childs in school,
ay, they'll learn and be they'llbe kept safe. And in far too
many districts across the country greatly.We're not saying either of those things happen.
Kids are sending hours and hours andhours a day and identity politics rather
than making up the learning loss whenwhen schools were closed for far too long.

(38:45):
And then we're also hearing about kidsoverdosing violent episodes and those are not
being addressed either, And so isit any wonder the parents are saying,
you know, I don't trust youguys, I don't like you guys.
And then as stuff like this comesup, they think, what the heck
else? You know, as yousaid, trust is broken, and it
doesn't seem to be any plan totry and restore that. Aside from making
fun of and shaming parents who hadthe scenario ask questions, Yeah, they

(39:07):
just they just give the stiff armto the parents. You know, from
a football perspective, it's just astiff arm. And so in twenty twenty,
there were two point six million homeschoolingstudents in two twenty one, three
point seven twenty twenty two, it'sListen's four point three. I'm hoping that
grows to five million in two thousandtwenty three, and that ten percent of
the students in the United states areactually getting an education because what we've seen

(39:29):
is, and you nailed it,parents just don't know what's happening behind these
brick walls. I say that nineout of ten parents here in my own
state don't know what's going on.But you've got critical race theory, racism,
segregation, COVID political theater, hypersexualization, the LGBTQ cult, communism.
It's complete insanity. And we're seeingthese kids with off the chart numbers

(39:49):
of anxiety, depression, and thoughtsof suicide. And then meanwhile, only
one in three kids in Maine canread it proficiency and only one in four
can do math at proficiency. It'sthe worst in our states history. It's
the dumbest generation in our nation's history. One of the people testifying today stated
the hearing, and therefore is alla racism, right. She was all,
you know, Asian backlash and racismand all that nonsense. And then

(40:12):
I saw you say, your grandparentsmet an internment camp, and you know
exactly what anti Asian racism looks like. Yeah, And this is I mean,
we see issues of children being treatedlyon the dip, on the basis
of skin color, on a regularbasis in twenty twenty three. Actually a
few months ago, we followed thepublic we follow the complaint with the offs
of Civil Rights because Portland Public schoolsin Maine had been they had affinity group

(40:35):
programming for teachers. You just can'tdo that. You can't have something that's
open to people of one skin colorand note another and say you can't come
because of you know, because you'rewhite, because you're this. That's grows.
It was discussing it unacceptable in nineteenfifty and the fact that there are
still taxpayer funded schools doing that intwenty twenty three should shock the conscience of
absolutely everyone. It's unconstitutional. Imean, my goodness, well, and

(40:58):
even you know nineteen sixty four CivilRights Act, right, I mean,
we've gone so far and now we'veregressed past, you know, like we've
regressed past nineteen sixty four at thispoint. But I think her I can't
pronounce her name, miss Kuzaka KusaKawa. I think it was maybe everybody
she you know. One thing shedidn't mention is that seventy percent of the

(41:19):
violence against Asians is done by blacksin America. Like, don't let the
facts get in a way of thereality, this was all about communism,
about potential safety issues, about kidsnot learning, and you know we're talking
about human rights violations in China andeverything. So I just incredible work.
I mean, you know, andyou mentioned also, I think in a
tweet, eighty seven percent of thosepolled said that schools should be required to

(41:42):
disclose when they accept money from aforeign government. First off, I don't
know who the other thirteen percent are, but overwhelming, right, yeah,
overwhelming. And luckily there's such atransparency requirement in place in colleges. There's
just not one in place at kateA twelve, and so we should put
in a place to kade A twelve. But at a higher end level,
it was two or fifty thousand dollarsin offense. You know, as we

(42:04):
soffering a Biden administrations, they weren'teven reporting some of those numbers that they
should have. But for the moneythat we attracting kat to twelve, it
was much lower. It was aroundten thousand dollars. And so we said,
you know, pass the transparency department, but also make it way way
lower, because yeah, it justneeds to loopen all the money the paps
because we know, you know,criminals will structure their transactions fall in although
that set threshold and we have tobe mindful of that. If we care

(42:27):
about money laundering, you know,the US Trade Department does. Why don't
we care about that in our schoolwell? And obviously Hunter Biden and the
big guy, they're they're pros atit. But you know, when the
IRS is going to track your sixhundred and first dollar on PayPal or whatever,
you would think that somebody could kindof check see what's going on into
our schools. And so, reallypart of the effort in your organization is

(42:49):
getting parents to show up. Soone of the things I read online doing
all the research said Dick Army usedto say that politics goes to he who
shows up, and it's time foreverybody to show up and get involved.
Those are some of the things youhad mentioned. So how do you continue
to get this information in front ofparents, in front of taxpayers so that
we can tell them how bad theseK through twelve schools are? And to

(43:12):
quote a G. I. Joecartoon, you stayed this morning knowing is
half the battle. I thought thatwas awesome. Yeah, I mean,
you know, we have a tiplineand since our launched, we have been
getting fifty to two hundred kids aweek from across the country. Almost one
hundred percent of people who send usthings check a box that they want to
be anonymous. People fear retaliation bothagainst themselves and their children, which seek

(43:36):
volumes about the state of discourse inAmerica today. But you know, that's
that's one thing. But we havelots of guys on our website just offering
kind of advice or options for peopleto be engaged. Everyone has a different
level of risk. Poler sean netarone is as brave as you are right
to show up an ask question.It might be, it might be stupid,
it might be stupid versus bravery.But I get to everyone has the
rules to play, and so wewant to kind of walk people through their

(43:58):
options and meet them where they are. You know, there are some people
who say I'm a small business.You know, if I'm a political activist,
we could lose everything. I don'tcall those people for that. But
what has been so fascinating to meover the past three years is watching all
these parents who aren't largely a politicalbefore now, I mean, they really
they weren't hard to see party activistsbut people who just looked around and saw
what was happening in schools and said, if not me, then who,

(44:20):
If not now then when? Imean we have seen the teachers Unions,
the school Boards Association, right,all these traditional power brokers that we thought
had our children's best interest at heart, absolutely did not. They cared about
their money, they cared about theirpower. I mean you look at some
of these reopening demands. Some ofthese teachers unions put out, we want
universal healthcare, we want a moratoriumon charter school. This has nothing to

(44:43):
do about getting our children back intoseaf and learning. This is all about
you guys. You guys are selfish, and so that's what parents had got
to step in and it's every singleday. I'm so honored to work alongside
my team. That also just somany brave parents who have said, you
know what, this is it,I can't wait any longer. My children's
are better, yeah, no doubt. And I think one of the biggest
things that I've found from this callingis the relationships that I've been able to

(45:06):
build with folks like yourself, peopleacross the country to really try to lean
on each other to help, youknow, push this envelope and and that,
you know, the whole over tothe window kind of situation when it
comes to politics. But yeah,I mean you mentioned UH like I always
voted, but I was never political. I never watched the news. In
fact, one year before I wason Tucker Carlson Show, I didn't know

(45:28):
who the man was, Like,I never watched that stuff, right,
And then we just we got aletter and I was like, this isn't
right. You know, something's wrongwith this. There's definitely the spider sense,
you know, going off. Soyou mentioned the tip line. I
think that's a that's a huge piece. It's at defending uh ed dot org
and you can follow on Twitter atdefending ed and also defending ed dot org

(45:50):
slash donate to contribute to their effortsbecause again, you know, these things
aren't free. I don't know anybodyin this space who is grifting off of
the concern evative side of this situation. I think we're all trying to survive.
And you've really done an amazing jobwith parents Defending Education. So maybe
speak a little bit about how doyou folks try to raise some money and

(46:12):
keep the keep the lights on soyou can keep people up to speed what's
going on? Sure, Yeah,we are on five or one C three
so we're in nonprofit so to donationsus are tax deductible precept no government money.
But you know, we turn aroundand then we go and put let
on target. I mean, wefile complaints of the Office of Civil Rights.
We have we're now two open federallawsuits against districts because of their gender
secrecy policies. We helped over sixtytwo thousand people submit comments to the Federal

(46:37):
Register on the Biden administration's proposed overhaulof Title nine. And we also just
go out and investigate. We loveto file public record quests and dig into
you know, the emails, thecontracts, the documents that these school systems
try to hide behind closed doors.They're so used to operating the shadows,
and we want to expose it.Like you said earlier, sunshine is the
best disinfectant. These are our children, these are our tax salis, and

(47:00):
they are accountable to thought periods.Yeah, outstanding, outstanding in amazing work
again Parents Defending Education. Our guestNicole Neely on the Main Source of Truth
podcast, I really appreciate you spendingthe time today's speak out the issues within
our k through twelve schools. Thankyou for having me absolutely hold on just
a second, just an outstanding interviewwhen Nicole I really appreciate her time.

(47:22):
And in closing, one of thethings that my guns Alice said from the
floor today of the House report thatcommunists are taking over classrooms, he said,
liberty is like oxygen. Communists haveinfiltrated our American classrooms to exercise soft
power on our educational system to prohibitthe horrors of Chinese communist rule. Kids
simply do not hear about communism inour school, in civics class. It

(47:45):
just doesn't happen anymore. And whenyou really speak truth to power, you're
called a racist, a transphoba,misogynist, or whatever. Keep speaking truth
to power, because when the farleft loses their mind and they can't speak
to the issues because they can't defendthem, you're winning. And the key
is getting it out to more parents. So please subscribe to the podcast,
Please share this with others. Thankyou very much for listening. Now you

(48:07):
need to take action. Oh alldecided about it? A dozen dozen all
round them up, Round them up, Let school round them up. Let's
school anyway, And that's the stainof my state of my state of mine.

(48:43):
That's the state of my state ofmy state of mind. All right.
That was Shine Down. This wasthe main source of Truth Podcast.
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