January 2, 2024 • 54 mins
Pornography Is Not Education is a parent group led by our next guest, Robin Paterson.
They are a non-profit organization, dedicated to ensuring that the children attending our schools and libraries are provided with a safe, nurturing learning environment. Critical to this mission, is the removal of pornographic material, images, advertisements, and videos from K -12 "research" or "homework" databases.
She's been fighting school and library porn since 2016 and PINE's motto is, “They won’t stop until we make them!”
That goes for a lot of things in Maine…including our appointed Secretary of State who last week created a 31 page nothingburger to stay her illegal and reprehensible decision to take Trump off our ballot until the supreme court rules on it.
We also do an update from AmericaFest with @BillboardChris!
@CCSDConvo on Twitter
http://www.pornographyisnoteducation.org
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/maine-source-of-truth-podcast--5501107/support.
They are a non-profit organization, dedicated to ensuring that the children attending our schools and libraries are provided with a safe, nurturing learning environment. Critical to this mission, is the removal of pornographic material, images, advertisements, and videos from K -12 "research" or "homework" databases.
She's been fighting school and library porn since 2016 and PINE's motto is, “They won’t stop until we make them!”
That goes for a lot of things in Maine…including our appointed Secretary of State who last week created a 31 page nothingburger to stay her illegal and reprehensible decision to take Trump off our ballot until the supreme court rules on it.
We also do an update from AmericaFest with @BillboardChris!
@CCSDConvo on Twitter
http://www.pornographyisnoteducation.org
Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/maine-source-of-truth-podcast--5501107/support.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:00):
Pornography is not Education is a parentgroup led by our next guest, Robin
Patterson. They're a nonprofit organization dedicatedto ensuring that the children attending our schools
and libraries are provided with a safe, nurturing learning environment. Critical to this
mission is a removal of pornographic materials, images and advertisements and videos from K
through twelve research or homework databases,which we'll be talking about. She's been
(00:22):
fighting the school in library porns intwenty sixteen, and their motto is they
won't stop until we make them.That goes for a lot of things in
Maine, including Tommy Tyrant. ShnnaBellows, our appointed secretary of State who
last week created a thirty one pagenothing burger to stay her illegal and reprehensible
decision to take Trump off the ballotuntil the Supreme Court rules on it.
(00:42):
This is the main source of Truthpodcast, and very few parents have said
anything, but Shawn mcgriarty did.Sean mcbrity is in the faults of miss
today. Sean, though, howpervasive is that in our school? Sean
mcgriarty joins us now. He justwon this law suit and gets forty thousand
dollars from the school board. Goodmorning, Shawn, you're his most dangerous
(01:03):
dad. Apparently. How are youare you being soon or what you do
by a local district for exposing thetransgender library display? Can you explain to
what's what happen? Hey, youare so with everything that's going on to
be just talked to this It's likealcohol mail. Yeah, about the over
(01:25):
setialization of books and libraries at thepool and they look like you put the
handle on that. That's the whyI expects you to support there. I
ask you to support this podcast ifyou want it to continue, and if
you want to help me with mylegal expenses and God willing a legal offense
fund to help others in need,please consider chipping in at www dot gibsen
(01:45):
go dot com, slash Sean mcbriardyAnd now onto the show. All right,
folks, this is season three,episode ninety three, and it's January
two, twenty twenty four as werecord this Pornography is not education will be
the title, And I wanted togive you Proverbs sixteen twenty eight. A
perverse man spreads strife and a slandererseparates intimate friends. That Bible verse is
(02:09):
about backstabbers, because this week Ihad someone I used to consider a friend
try to stab me in the back. It was a really pathetic attempt,
But this person appears to want totry to take potshots at me game on.
It's really not that big a deal, but they're showing their true colors,
and even though I've been fully transparentwith them, I'll no longer be
sticking up for them as I havefor the last several years. It's actually
(02:30):
kind of liberating when people show youwho they really are. Those folks that
essentially can't come to grips with somebodyelse doing it a different way, and
instead of them just doing it intheir own parallel lane, they decided want
to attack you. Whatever, folks, some people can't handle the truth.
They can't handle that our rights asAmericans are being eliminated every single day,
(02:51):
and we still have the ability tosay what we want where we want,
within the law and place appropriate pressureon public servants who try to circumvent the
law. Now, as updates today, that person Shenna Bellows, the public
servant. She's a Democrat. Shockerright, She's the state's first female Secretary
of State, elected by the legislatorin twenty twenty and sworn in the following
(03:15):
January. She's basically appointed by thelegislature. Maine is one of only three
states in which this position is electedby the legislator, not elected by we
the people, but by the threequarter majority bunch of goofballs in Augusta,
Maine. They're elected again elected withinthe legislature. Some are elected by the
public in most states in America,and some are appointed by the governor.
(03:38):
So Bellows on Thursday removed Donald Trumpfrom the twenty twenty four primary ballot in
Maine, although she really didn't.She referred to section of the constitution that
bars those had sworn into the oathof the Constitution from holding office if they've
been engaged in insurrection. The casestems from Trump's actions before the January sixth,
twenty twenty one attack on the USCapitol. And that's from the Washington
(04:00):
Post. I believe. Let mefind that again, Yes, from the
Washington Post. I'll call that apeaceful protest incited to become a riot caused
by Capitol police. Same Capitol policeare opening doors, ushering people in the
same Capitol police that threw flash bangsinto the crowd, and that sort of
started the entire riot situation. Butthe only person harmed that day was a
(04:23):
person who was actually shot by aCapitol police officer. And again she was
murdered essentially. But nothing else reallyof any major significance happened that day.
Bellows again she cited that the Coloradodecision, in reaching she sought out incited
the Colorado decision in reaching her conclusionthat the January sixth attack was quote violent
(04:45):
enough, potent enough, and longenough to constitute an insurrection. Now nobody
has charged Donald Trump of an insurrection. Even the FBI said it wasn't an
insurrection on January sixth, and thenthe Colorado decision was overturned, and Trump
is still right on the ballot.No, he's still rightly on our ballot
too, because what she did isshe actually stayed her thirty one page nothing
Burger decision until the Supreme Court ruleson it. So it's really it's a
(05:10):
non factor. It's all for show. Lumored with Laura Lumer, who is
following me on Twitter. I followedher for a while. She says,
quote main Secretary of State Shenna Bellowsreceived donations from the Soros family George Soros
during her twenty fourteen United States Senaterun, which he got blown out on
Bello's acceptance of Soros funding follows apattern of individuals or organizations attempting to kick
(05:31):
Trump off the ballot while being fundedby the Soros family members or organizations.
Lumur dot com had previously reported thatCrew CRW the organization leading the charge to
remove Trump from the Colorado budget Coloradoballot. Sorry, the Michigan congresswoman and
Democrat United States Senate nominee Alissa Slotkin, who supported failed attempts at removing Trump
(05:54):
from the Michigan ballot. The CaliforniaLieutenant Governor Ellenie Kolaneka US, who requested
California Secretary of State Shirley Weber toexplore every legal option to remove Trump from
the California ballot, all funded bySoro's family members. The other thing is
Shannon Bellows is in up Talker,right, So this is just something that
I noticed and it's been reported byother outlets. She raises her voice at
(06:17):
the end of each sentence like it'squestioning the madness in her own head,
because folks, she's insane. Shesaid during her first interview that we made
the decision. Then she kind ofbackpedaled and corrected herself to I, Well,
she had it right the first time. This is all about following the
money. Now, the dirt onBellows is coming fast and furious. In
October twenty twenty one, she wason a zoom call with a bunch of
(06:40):
other leftists including Colorado Secretary of State, and Bellows discusses their biggest threats to
democracy. So hold on, we'regoing to listen to that and security Bellow,
I would love to hear about yourthoughts on like our biggest threats facing
hart democracy through at this point intime. Well, what Secretary Grisibald just
said, it named is something thatwas imaginable two years ago or ten years
(07:01):
ago, and that is election sabotageis a crystal clear example of what's happening
all across the country. So weneed to organize to make sure we have
better leaders in positions of power tofight back against that. Secretary Dunson talked
about voter suppression, and that's somethingthat when we started our careers at the
(07:23):
ACLU and Southern Partty Law Center.It's fighting back about systematic structural voter oppression,
targeting specifically black and brown voters.It's rooted in white supremacy. That
is something we have to continue todo work on. And Secretary Merrill talked
about before the People Act and theFreedom to Vote Act, we must have
federal standards all across the country.And then finally, just to echo my
(07:45):
colleagues, this is rooted in adeliberate and organized campaign to discourage people from
participating in our democracy. It isan attack on our very democracy itself because
when everyone participates, it's everything thatwe care about. Social justice, climate
justice, economic justice. We win. Those on the other side are trying
(08:07):
to discourage people from participating. That'swhat this really is about. We have
to fight back to protect our democracy, to protect everything something that was unimaginable.
I mean, you just listen toher speak and she just sounds like
such a moron. She talks aboutsystematic voter oppression. The only voter oppression
we have in Maine is coming fromher office. From her she talks about
(08:30):
this being rooted in white supremacy.Such a bunch of garbage. Hey,
by the way, you're a wokewhite woman, you idiot. And then
she talks about an organized campaign fromthe people against people participating in our democracy.
She can't pass a Civics class inmiddle school. We are not a
democracy, United States. We're aconstitutional republic. We are built on the
(08:52):
foundation that it is not majority rule. There are specific things in place to
make sure that our leader, ourpresident of the United States, is inserted
properly. Now we all know that, let's go, Brandon basically stole the
election. There's no way that guygot eighty one million votes. It's pure
lunacy to think that we are doingthat. But she also mentions social and
climate justice. I mean, thisis a complete far left freak show.
(09:16):
The dirt will continue to come out, so you know again, she's a
former ACLU clan member, Hyperpartistan.Let's go brand and support her again.
It's no shock she's a Democrat,she lives with a beta male named Brandon
who looks just like a tall lesbian. And she was even trashed on CNN
for her idiotic ruling, with politicalanalysts calling it mind boggling and comical.
(09:37):
Now even leftist Angus King, DemocratJared Golden Rhino Susan Collins all failed to
agree with Bellows, and hey,listen, she deserves everything she gets.
You can go back on my Twitter, you can go on Facebook, you
can find all of her information isonline. I've never said that anybody should
do anything beyond what you can dowithin the law, within the First Amendment,
(10:00):
within peaceful protest. If somebody wantsto camp out in front of her
house on the state road and peacefullyprotest, hey, that's what the left
has been doing for years and yearsin front of conservative outlets, conservative hosts,
Supreme Court justices, you know,you name it. Nobody is saying
that she should be swatted. Whathappened to her wasn't swatting. It's complete
(10:22):
nonsensical that some of these conservative areso called conservative people are out there trying
to make this a swatting issue.It's not. She deserves pressure. That's
basically the root cause of the entiresituation. Now, the other part of
this is that the main GEOP,which is simply a pathetic group running this,
you know, alleged conservative presence,they should be hammering main Governor Janet
(10:46):
Mills in this situation. Janet Millshas yet to say a peep on this
entire cluster, this entire clown show. Right, this entire situation. She
hasn't said a word. Mills remainedsilent to date. In the gu should
be pressuring her non stop. Alleighty members roughly of the main rhinos,
(11:07):
most of them ninety percent of themare rhinos. Let's just say it straight,
should be pressuring Mills to make astatement. Suffice to say, one
of the key GOP members wanted torecently talk some crap behind my back.
Several folks who floated this nonsensical ideato defend in my position. Basically,
everybody knows I'm a transparent guy.I talk the truth, you know facts,
don't care about your feelings. QTtime is over, folks. You
(11:30):
know the GOP again. They couldbe winning on three issues potentially four now,
one illegal immigration, to abortion,which in man, you can have
right up until you know the pointyou can see the head coming out of
the womb, and education, whichis what this podcast is all about.
They certainly could be trying to winon election interference, but they're not because
they're not organized. They are abunch of weak cowards who really don't want
(11:54):
to work that hard. And thesefar left democrats are attacking and taking away
all of our freedom. But thisGOP social club. They're afraid, they're
afraid of being called in the youknow names in the local Banger daily news.
And we've had local legislators tell usthis to our faith. So it
doesn't mean there aren't good Republicans.There are. I'm sure there are some
(12:15):
good Democrats somewhere, although I don'tknow if I've met one lately. But
again, here in Main we havea bunch of wheak conservative outlets core all
talk and no action. So Iwant to play an update from America Fest.
I had a chance to go thankyou very much for your generous donations
that offset probably about half of myexpenses, actually about a quarter or of
(12:35):
my expenses. But I caught upwith Billboard Chris, who I had a
chance to have on the podcast backon July twenty second, twenty twenty two,
way back on episode twenty seven,and we spent a little bit of
time with him, and actually onI spent some time with him on January
fourteen, twenty twenty three, almosta year ago, in front of Boston
Children's Hospital in my first actual bigtime public protest. So here's our update
(12:56):
from America Fest that I want toshare with you. All right, So
this man, the father of twogirls from British Columbia, mission to travel
North America's exposed to gender ideology,why children should not and could not content
to medical transition. You've had deaththreats made against you, You've lost your
livelihood, constant physical harassment. Idon't know if you have any broken bones
(13:18):
on you today. Okay, allright, well dogs online, really for
simply using your First Amendment rights beinghere in America walking around with the sandwich
sport. Really and so on Twitterat Billboard Chris all in one word,
pushing for a million followers, whichis amazing. Thanks here, I think
you did all right, And soyou were back on episode twenty seven my
(13:41):
podcast I think of the ninety oneor two now and Chris Elson aka Billboard
Chris, I really appreciate being it. It's my pleasure to be here.
This is an amazing event. Iwas outside this morning. I'd been outside
for thirty seconds. It was abouteight o'clock in the morning. I thought
I'll catch some people as they comein, and I ran into a guy
California who has lost his son becauseat the age of two, when his
(14:03):
little boy was still in diapers,the mother decided that their little baby boy
was really a girl, and thefather spoke out against this, and so
he was giving a temporary restraining order. Even though there was no pistical abuse
or anything like that. He simplyobjected to the affirmation of his child of
being a girl. And now hehas a five year restraining order. He's
(14:26):
gone not to talk to his son. And unless we put a stop to
this business a child transition in fiveor six years time, when this kid
starts to say puberty, mom forsure will be blocking his puberty and altering
the course of his life. So, yeah, he's stoped to it.
He's gonna be messed up forever.As you know, as you helped me
learn those chemical castration drugs, there'sno going back really there. They're permanent
side effects. They're really detrimental toespecially a growing, you know, youth
(14:50):
and those kind of things. Oneof the things I want to ask is
you know how you went from yourkind of first sandwich board experience to now
being voted by Charlie Kirk and reallyhaving a lot of folks know who you
are. You've made a difference andyou've you've really this is a calling for
you. I would have to believe, and it's not something that anybody would
(15:11):
have imagined. But thinking yourself wayback, probably in British Columbia when you
first did that, to where youare today, and maybe give me a
little summary on how that just crazyride has occurred. Well, I knew
if I just kept going that there'sonly one way this can go is I'm
going to continue to make more peopleaware. I'm going to activate more people
who start to fight back. That'sone of my main goals. And I'm
(15:35):
reminded of this speech that the newPresident of Argentina recently gave, Javier Amelie.
He said that he's not here toguide sheep, He's here to awaken
alliance. And that's part of whatI've been trying to do this whole time,
because I knew just if I keptgoing and stay persistent, going out
there every day, that all sortsof people would come along who would start
(15:56):
fighting this in their own way,the lawyers, the doctors, who ever.
So you just keep going, andwhen you're persistent, things grow.
So I'm not at all surprised wherewe've come to today, and in a
lot of ways, I still thinkthis is just the beginning well, that's
amazing. Do you have any insights, Chris on how many children and families
you've saved by your advascy work.I mean, I know that's probably overwhelming
(16:17):
to think about, but that's ultimatelywhy you're doing this. You know,
do you have a number in yourhead, like, even if it's one,
it's obviously worthwhile. But there's there'sgot to be hundreds or thousands of
kids. Well, there are lotsof kids and families that I've been talking
with where the kids have already comeout of this phase. But really,
I think ninety nine percent of thegood work that will come of this will
(16:38):
be stuff I never hear about becauseI'm acting proactively to help educate parents so
they can have these conversations with theirkids so their kids never fall down this
rabbit hole in the first place.So I'm never gonna hear about those And
that's just great because there's not muchwe can do about the damage that's been
done, but we can stop damagefrom happening. So it's all the looking
(17:00):
forward. Yeah, no doubt youdid. You come to this conference with
a set of goals in mind,and you know, I mean, I
know Charlie mentioned twenty twenty four isgonna be his hardest working year ever.
And that hit home to me,you know, trying to do this sort
of unemployed dad, just kind ofin Maine, trying to figure out what
to do with myself. You've hada chance to travel all around the country,
and so you know, do youthink you're gonna be able to work
(17:22):
harder in twenty twenty four than youare? Or is that you know we'd
like, well, how did youtake that from last night? Well,
I can't really work harder than Ihave been working the last three years,
to be honest with you, butI can work differently. So one thing
that's going on now because things evolveand they change, and I have such
a large social media reach now thatI need to focus more on some of
the other platforms. So I've justwe've had renters in our basements week for
(17:47):
seventeen years. I gave her anotice in August. She's moved out.
So I've converted that into a studio. So I'm gonna be conducting a lot
more interviews, doing podcasts. I'mgonna get my YouTube channel going, get
other platforms going. I'm gonna makea lot of short educational videos because people
need two or three minutes, yeah, on different subjects to learn how to
message on this. So yeah,I'll get the socials going more and more
(18:07):
for sure than I have. ThenI'll get my website updated. But my
bread and butter is always going tobe out on the street. Yeah.
Yeah, you are a man ofthe street, There's no doubt. And
I wasn't almost a year ago thatyou and I were standing in front of
Boston Children's Hospital in the freezing rainwith one hundred and fifty cops around us,
waiting for Antifa to show up,which is still an amazing That is
my first ever protest that I've everbeen to, right, and people call
(18:30):
me an activist all the time.I'm like, look, I've been a
one protest and it was in frontof a hospital, So you know,
I really appreciate it. I'm gladthat you're here. I'm glad to see
again. You know, if youever need a strong dad talking about education,
you know where to find me.And I really appreciate the success you've
had. It's good and bad success, right, I mean, there's so
much evil in the system you can'ttake care of all of it. But
(18:52):
you're trying to take a piece,You're trying to step forward and step up,
and I just really appreciate it.Thank you so much, John,
I really appreciate you and all thework that you keep going. Thanks man,
thank you. Alright, awesome,let's take a photo and yeah we're
either she is all right? Sothat was awesome again catching up with Chris
after you know, not seeing himfor a year. But that was at
America Fest in Phoenix. And I'llbe sharing more of those sort of man
(19:15):
on the street kind of discussions.I talk to a lot of people.
I might do one podcast with themall included. I haven't decided yet,
but one of the things Chris saysis I'm not here to wake up the
sheep. I'm here to wake upthe lions. And that's on a T
shirt I often wear. So Chrisalso mentioned working differently using social media platforms
as a different way to work harderin twenty twenty four. That might be
something that I need to look atas well. You know what is my
(19:37):
reach podcast platforming? Again, thisis kind of a fledgling podcast. There's
certain core group of folks that listento everyone, and I appreciate it.
We need to either determine how tofigure out how to get this out some
more ears, or we need todo something different. So, as I
always say, please share it,please like it, please subscribe, and
hey listen. If you want toend up supporting the podcast, you can
(19:59):
do that a number of different ways. You can now do it as a
paid subscriber to my sub stack.I think I have one. It's five
bucks a month if you enjoy someof the content that I provide, some
of the writings. I'm getting moreinto writing articles national articles on your news
and then certainly www dot Gibson godot com slash Sean McBride, you can
you know again, pitch in ananytime and I will not keep a dime.
(20:23):
The way I've set this currently upis I just want to make sure
I can pay for my expenses,and I have cost my family two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars over the lasttwo and a half years by not working,
by doing this as a calling.That's my choice, but that choice
can't continue without your support. DrewPatterson, our guest husband, remembers when
he and his wife realized their middleschool daughter's online school account in the Cherry
(20:45):
Creek School District was linked to raw, unfiltered pornography. She called to him,
you need to come here right nowand see if I'm seeing what I
think I'm seeing. Drew Patterson said, it was just appalling and the thought
our middle school daughter could be exposedto that was just appalling. She is
at CCSD Convo on Twitter now knownas x and also you can follow their
(21:08):
work on Pornography is Not Education dotorg or pine online. Their advocates for
beneficial, age appropriate educational materials inColorado. Colorado, like Maine, a
hotbed for the woke. Pornography isNot Education is a nonprofit organization dedicated to
ensuring that the children attending our schoolsand libraries are provided with safe, nurturing
(21:32):
learning environment. Critical to the missionit is the removal of pornographic material,
images and advertisements and videos from theK through twelve research or homework databases that
will be speaking about. They alsofiled a lawsuit against the Colorado Library Consortium
in an Alabama, Bama company calledEbsco. The lawsuit was brought on behalf
of the parents by the Thomas MooreSociety, a national nonprofit law firm that
(21:56):
describes itself as dedicated to restore respectin the law for life, family and
religious liberty, something I think allof our listeners can get behind. It's
asking that a judge issued an injunctionstopping EBSCO and the consortium from providing databases
that contained pornography to underage kids.Seems pretty basic, right, So she's
(22:17):
been fighting school and library porn sincetwenty sixteen, and their motto is they
won't stop until we make them pornographyis not education. As a parent group
led by our next guest, RobinPatterson, and I want to welcome her
to the Main Source of Truth podcast. So Robin, thank you so much
(22:38):
for joining us today on Main Sourcesof Truth. Please, you know,
kind of tell little listeners how yougot involved in this fight. I mean,
I obviously did the introduction, buthow did you get involved in fighting
pornography in schools? And then we'regoing to dive into some of the detailed
parts of the lawsuit. Sure,well, thank you so much for having
me on, But this goes backto twenty sixteen. I can't believe it's
been seven years since we stumbled onpornography in our own local school. We
(23:03):
certainly weren't looking for it, justhelping our kids with their homework. And
back in those days, in sixteenand seventeen, it wasn't well known like
it is today. And I'm sureyour listeners are you know, are hearing
about pornography in schools, mostly inthe books and ebooks. Now this is
around the country that awareness has beenraised, but back in those days it
was we were a little ahead ofthe curve there, and we were looking
(23:26):
at the digital research databases. Theseare best thought of as digital electronic encyclopedias,
and we've found it's just a handfulof big global companies. You have
Ebsco, Ebsco, Epsco, galeSengage Proquests and that's where we were finding
the pornography and the school was notresponsive to us, and the state was
(23:49):
not responsive to us at the time. So we went on to co found
disorganization, pornography is not education,and to try and take different strategies to
apply pressure not only here in Coloradobut across the country. We've networked now
with roughly throyquest states. Yeah,and I think you know, we have
(24:10):
some common connections that we'll probably speakabout here, but for me, yeah,
I mean, twenty sixteen is alifetime ago. You know, in
dog years, it's like twenty sevenyears ago or more at this point.
Right. So one of the thingsthat I say is I didn't get involved
into what I call the hyper sexualizationof students in schools until the fall of
twenty twenty one, when I foundout that the main teacher of the year,
Kelsey Stoyanova in my local school districthere, was being celebrated for pushing
(24:34):
pornography on kids. And so,you know, a lot of us are
starting to come around. Parents arestarting to come around, but it's it's
like a slow burn. It's anarduous process, like every day you're clawing
and scratching to get people just tounderstand what's happening. So one of the
things that I was when I wasdoing some research, can you describe a
(24:55):
little bit what ebsco industry does somethingto do with research databases, but they're
specifically targeting school children with actually explicitmaterials. Correct, that is correct.
They do target school children and theycall themselves information curators. So you have
Epsco and Gale are the two maincompanies, and they're very ubiquitous. I
(25:15):
think a lot of parents don't evenrealize that they have these digital resources in
their school. You could throw adart at the map of the United States
or even the world, and youwill find these databases and they're information curators.
Well, that brings two problems intoplay. One, you're paying a
private company to curate information not onlyfor K twelve, but for college students
(25:36):
too, by the way, andso you're getting what we have reports,
multiple reports of you know, informationbias, political bias. And we're starting
to also take a look at alot of the what I would call very
unscientific information that children can be bornin the wrong body. There's a lot
of this type of information, butmainly this very very dangerous right down to
(26:00):
the elementary school level with these Galeand ebscode databases. But we've focused a
lot on the pornography and the adultadvertising in these and so what they do.
These databases cannot be filtered. Theybypass ordinary filtering. So their corporate
owned and their sold to schools assafe and reliable alternatives to the Internet.
(26:23):
And so school buy these believing youknow that this is these are educationally sound,
but at the same time their businessmodel requires them to go to their
publishing and advertising partners and tell themgive us your media, you know,
whether it's books, magazines, youknow, what have you. They take
(26:44):
that media and we'll get it tothe right audience for you. So we'll
expand your product recognition, will expandyour marketplace, your market reach. And
so this really is at odds withthe goal of providing scholastic materials for school
children. Well yeah, and soone of the things I read here was
the services are purchased by the ColoradoLibrary Consortium called Click for one hundred and
(27:07):
seventy one Colorado school districts and anumber of libraries in the state. But
it's not just a Colorado thing.In fact, EBSCO services fifty five thousand
schools nationwide. Well, that's right, it is. It's across the country.
And so they have this business model. EPSCO even calls themselves the natural
partner. And what they're doing isthey're really satisfying the needs of their publishing
and advertising partners. And that's howyou know, children thinking they're just doing
(27:33):
their homework or their classwork, arefinding they find advertisements for sex shops.
Sometimes these are embedded with apparently monetizedhyperlinks to a variety of sex shops to
hardcore porn. We found links toporn hub, torture porn sites in some
of the databases now the GALE databases, people are reporting even advertisements for cannabis
(27:59):
and online. It's all about themoney and we always you know, work
through that. And one of thethings that we'll do a little follow up
on here in the next coming weeksis that off the air you mentioned that
you know, main students are alsofed through this digital main library aspect,
some of these EBSCODE databases. Soone of the things that you know you
mentioned is you know, bondage siteslust BDSM. They market to school children
(28:21):
things like an ebook called Pornography inAmerica, a reference handbook adult erotica,
torture porn sites you mentioned, andyou know, over one hundred instances of
advertising for a large scale sex toystore are all linked into these EBSCO databases
which are closed, right, sothey're not something that the schools can filter
out. You can't filter out thisonline sexualized content because it's basically baked into
(28:45):
the model. Correct. That iscorrect? Yes, And often you know,
the other side, when defending thiswill say, well, we have
filters in our school. But thosefilters are not going to go inside a
privately owned digital encyclopedia as it were. So this information, everything that's in
these databases was selected for inclusion.Both EPSCO and Sengage Gale, the main
(29:07):
providers of databases, promise that theyhave a team of information curators to provide
the most reliable and scholastic and educationalmaterial. So if it's in there,
they put it in there. Well, yeah, part part of your lawsuit,
I think I started in terrupt partof the lawsuit says. On November
eighteen, twenty sixteen, a memberof Pornography Is Not Education spoke with an
(29:30):
EBSCO sales representative who sold EBSCO productsto Click. He admitted EBSCO was fully
aware of the sexual, sexually explicitcontent of its schools products marketed, even
to elementary schools. And that wasa quote. So yeah, I mean
and here in Colorado, and itis a similar type of model around the
(29:52):
country. In many cases, you'llhave a state level entity. It could
be the Secretary of State, Departmentof ED in Colorado with a not profit
or quasi government agency and they brokeerthis stuff. So they're getting wholesale,
you know, deals from EPSCO andGale the commercial vendors for the databases.
They then make them. I thinkin Maine it's either free or low cost.
(30:15):
They make this available to schools andlibraries and colleges across the state.
For example, you could be sittingin a middle school in Maine and your
library is going to have a linkto the digital main library where they have
a lot of Gale an EPSCO databasesin Colorado? Can you describe Gail a
little bit as well? So EBSCOis one component is Gale Like is it?
(30:38):
Is it? Ford and Chevy kindof like, are they the two
main databases in the in the space? Yeah, they are. They're They're
very very similar and they have similarbusiness models. Just for the referends.
I'm a RAM, I'm a Ramtruck guy, not a not a Ford
Chevy guy. Well what I thinkhappened? You know, EPSCO dominated the
market and then when we out thelawsuit, we got a lot of national
(31:02):
attention, a lot of interviews,and we raised a lot of awareness.
EPSCO was actually put on the socalled Duty dozen list by the Center on
Sexual Exploitation, and the link tothat is on our website. But you
know, so they got a lotof bad press, and I think that
what happened was a lot of schoolsand libraries. So well, maybe we
(31:22):
won't use EPSCO anymore, will useengauge Gale. In fact, that happened
in our own school here in Colorado, and it turned out that the engage
was just as bad. Yeah,it's not worse. One of the things
I said here was a Gale databaseis Solicit's clickbait for adult hookup sites to
the K through twelve school So again, it's all about the money, like
they can't it's not that they're justdrifting off of taxpayers and taking taxpayer money
(31:48):
to do this. They're also sortof secondarily selling to the pornography market,
which obviously we're just seeing. Theamount of sex is continuous. I mean
books like gender Queer for example.One of the pages it has a direct
link to kink dot com. I'vegone to kink dot com. I'm not
I'm not proud of going there,but it is a hardcore BDSM site and
(32:08):
instantaneously once you pass through the RUeighteen button which you just click on,
it's it's instant, you know,just disgusting content. I mean, it's
it's so easy for a school childto sort of just wander down that path
and all of a sudden, youknow it's porn for days, and you're
doing it through your school laptop,right, and it appears to be endorsed
(32:30):
by the school because the teacher toldthe kids to go there. So this'ially
puts teachers in a bad spot.You know, if they don't know about
it, they ought to know aboutit, and they shouldn't look the other
way because it's a difficult position forthem. And a lot of the time
the information or the sexually inappropriate contentand advertising is it sort of floats to
(32:52):
the top. So let me giveyou some examples. It's like it's designed.
I was doing research, pretending tobe a child, doing research on
the prison system, and I endedup on an article called Boys half Way
House, which is embedded with apparentlymonetized hyperlinks to hardcore torture porn websites.
And again, like you say,you just click on the Yeah, I'm
(33:14):
eighteen. I was doing research onrace relations and I ended up on articles,
a ton of articles with things likerace play BDSM articles. If you
search on health or you know,sex ed type of topics. You get
things for children as young as elementaryschools. Sometimes time to ease your fears
(33:35):
and your sphincter. Yeah, yeah, that's all. That's what I want
to talk about. I mean,it is a I mean part of part
of where this is all coming from. So I'm a member of the World
Library Association. I'm an unpaid boardmember. I mean, we advocate that
school boards stop paying the local AmericanLibrary Association or whatever the spinoff is in
Main, it's the Main Library Association. It's the same thing because the al
(34:00):
is run by a Marxist lesbian herwords, Emily Drabinski, who believes libraryes
should be the site of socialist organizing. Also her words, right, And
so you know again the Supreme CourtBoard of Education versus Pico nineteen eighty two,
the US Supreme Court allows schools toremove educationally unsuitable and pervasively vulgar materials
(34:20):
and do so immediately. But theydon't want that to happen, right,
All they do is continue to doubledown. And what they said was the
EPSCO said their resources were vetted anddependable. It's a quote, and that
also they inaccurately said your group wason a crusade to ban and burn all
electronic resources from schools and libraries,and then accused some of the parents of
(34:43):
modern day book banning. So thereaction, you know, that's the reaction
constant from the left. It's notlike, hey, we overstepped our bounds.
We went way down a very darkroad. We need to pull ourselves
back. It's always like, no, you're a book banner. Well,
and you have to understand too thatthe ala, you know, the ad
Hominem attacks on anyone who says,hey, no porn for kids. They
(35:07):
call you a sensor. But theyalso have a financial conflict of interest as
well as being ideologically bizarre and withtheir Bill of Rights and thinking that you
know, anything goes. But theyare kind of shilling for these commercial vendors.
So for example, you have ebsco, Gale, you have your commercial
(35:30):
database vendors, and some publishers.They actually formed a group called the Corporate
Committee for Library Investments, so they'relobbying the IMLS, the Institute of Museum
and Library Services, for money forlibraries across the country. Well, libraries
show their gratitude by purchasing their commercialproducts, their books, their databases,
(35:51):
their ebook platforms and so on.So you have a very circuitous financial relationship,
and that's why they call people namesthat don't make any sense, and
people can plain about their product.Well, the interesting thing I think,
Robin is that again her words likeshe's proud of being a Marxist lesbian.
I don't care if she's a lesbian, but she uses it for leverage,
and she thinks it by saying thatthat people are going to back off because
(36:13):
they're like, oh no, Idon't want to upset an LGBTQ member.
All it should tell is tell parentsand taxpayers that this is a trans cult.
They're all part of it, they'reall in on it. And she's
literally saying that, you know,she's a socialist. She enjoys socialist organizing
in your local library. And we'veseen it here, we've seen in my
local library down the road here.Actually was was pushing against me not to
(36:36):
make it on the local town councilbecause they were afraid that I was going
to burn books, which is ridiculous. Like the only people that are that
are not allowing books to go inthe library are librarians, right, and
and so you know, we justsay, look, look this, this
is pervasively vulgar material that has noreason. It's educationally unsuitable, shouldn't be
(36:58):
there to begin with. You can'tban something that shouldn't have been there to
begin with. And one of thethings I had an argument with a teacher
here locally in the school a fewweeks back, and I said, listen,
would you put a loaded handgun inthe library? And he kind of
cocked his head and he said,oh, WHOA, that's not the same
And I said, well, itkind of is the same. Like innocence
lost from a child can never beregained. It's the death of their innocence.
(37:22):
And he said, well, ahandgun has to be fired or something,
and I said, yeah, bookhas to be read. I mean,
it's the same deal. Like itdoesn't make any difference. But what
they're doing is they're you know,they're putting a loaded handgun or a grenade.
They're pulling a pin on a grenade, thrown it in the library or
in this case, you know EBSCOor Gale database is and they're saying,
well, you know, maybe nobodywill find it, but they do.
(37:43):
It's so easy, and it's andit's like stuff that we thought were whispers,
you know, a few years ago. I mean twenty sixteen is a
lifetime ago. But you know nowit's a poster on the wall a library.
That's true. And you know,the ALA is also involved in other
activities. They have toolkits. Thisis very top down, I believe.
They have a program that was underthe Obama administration. It was started.
(38:07):
It was called ed Connect Challenge,and this is a top down driven through
the American Library Association, and theyhave toolkits and what they do is they
this is for school librarians around thecountry to find ways to collaborate with the
local public libraries. And so whatwe have found at pornography is not education.
(38:28):
As we've actually we've been engaged withlegislation. We've had twelve states introduced
in six states paths or model legislation. But as we do this, what
happens is sometimes the schools will startto self regulate. Okay, that's what
we saw here in Colorado. Sothey cancel the EPSCO maybe some Gaale databases.
They call the companies and say getthis cleaned up, white you have
(38:51):
porn and you know, sex shopads. And as that happens, they
then are backdoring the students into thelocal public life, very top down,
driven by the ALA. And sothis happens in various ways. So in
our schools and around the country,you can have seamless access. So for
example, and I also see thisin some of the main schools that I
(39:14):
was looking at with it's all overthe country. A child can be on
their schools library website and it willsay, hey, do your research and
here's the link to your local publiclibrary. In some schools, I don't
know which schools, but in someschools they have seamless access, so if
the child's on school property, theygo right into the library, no firewalls.
(39:35):
In some schools the children are usingtheir school issued student ID members and
lieu of a library card. AndI don't know if parents realize this at
all, or if they do,do they realize that those children are exposed
potentially to every single book and everysingle database in that library. Yeah,
I mean, I think it's oneof those things that because everything is electronic,
(39:58):
that homework doesn't get past, youknow, by hand to students anymore.
Books don't come home, parents can'tsee something on the kitchen table like
they used to when you know,we were in school. And that's part
of the plan, right, that'spart of the strategy of what I would
call these groomers, these folks thatare grooming you know, children sexually.
They're trying to normalize sexuality within theseschools. But you have had success.
(40:20):
You mentioned some of the legislation andyou got your local Cherry Creek, Colorado
school district to ditch epsco correct,that is correct? Yeah, that's great.
Like I mean hit hit them withtheir pocket book? Is right of
their wallet? Is? I mean, that's the biggest thing. I think
It's really important for parents to gettheir kids go into their electronic portals because
(40:44):
that was actually how we found itoriginally. The parents have a different password.
The parents have a different electronic portal. You can maybe see your kids'
grades, but the child is seeingsomething else. And when we use our
child's password, that was when wefound all the databases, websites, serve
all kinds of stuff behind this digitalcurtain, and parents really need to get
(41:04):
in there and take a look.They need to do what they what we
call the litmus test. So andthis was actually coined by some of the
IP professionals that we worked with.They call it their naughty words search.
There shouldn't be naughty words in kidsdatabase or encyclopedias. So if you're seeing
stuff like that that those conversations needto be very public. They need to
(41:28):
include legislators, They need to beat board meetings. If you write a
letter, copy everybody and make thisbecause this is the kind of pressure.
I think a lot of educators doknow by now that there's a very serious
problem with the sexual exploitation buried insidethese databases, but they don't want to
rock the boat. Well, yeah, it's misfeasans versus malfeasance, right,
(41:51):
And I listened to Dan Bongino allthe time. He uses that phrase a
lot. I had to look themup because I didn't know what they were.
But really, misfeasance is like youreally don't know what's going on,
so you can kind of be ignorantto the point. Malfeasance is when you
know what's going on and then youchoose to do nothing, so you have
a bunch of resources on your website. One of the letters to the mayor
City Council of the Aurora Public Schooland Public Library in Colorado talked about a
(42:15):
simple search on pleasure, right,So that's kind of one of those those
knotty words, although again it shouldn'tbe naughty. But in the EBSCO explorer
for elementary school, it leads toan article called Aggression and Pleasure in the
opposite sex in the same sex mainstreamonline pornography. Then it reads, in
part quote, swearing is a languageof emotion and is common during sex,
(42:36):
such as fuck yeah or shit thatfeels good, ejaculation in the mouth,
on the face, spanking, hairpulling, face, and body hitting,
choking. It contains that link campaigncontains monetized live hyperlinks to pornhub indebted embedded
in the article like pornhub, Imean pornhub. That's insane. It's insane.
(42:57):
Yeah, it's insane, and itit's I can't imagine the harm that
this can really cost to a childof any age. But yes, elementary
school. We have shared this informationwith Colorado state leaders. We have had
meetings with the state librarian and withhigh level school board state school board members,
(43:20):
and nothing has been done. AndColorado, and this may be the
case for other states as well,appears to have an unusual financial relationship with
EPSCO. So when we started bringingthese claims out. Instead of jumping to
help keep the students safe, whatthey did instead was they created information that
I believe they passed around to allthe school districts in the state of Colorado
(43:45):
encouraging them to continue using EPSCO anddon't pay any attention to the tinfoil hats
out there. And then they've doneone hundred thousand dollars grant from EPSCO for
one of their libraries. We've passedthis information to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
So you know, I can onlyspeak to Colorado. I wonder what's
happening around the country. I dowonder why some people are so loath to
(44:08):
step up and help the kids,help get this well, I think I
think you hit it on the head. I mean, it's it's a follow
of the money scenario, right,So all of these folks basically are tied
somehow to some financial institution, andsomebody above them is saying, hey,
listen, if you get rid ofus, there's gonna be problems for you.
We're we're gonna call you a homophobeor a bigot or a racist or
(44:30):
whatever it is. None of that. Obviously, Well, I'm actually obviously
in most cases, none of thatstuff is true, but they use it
as leverage and weak people fall forit all the time. One of the
things the local main and I'm searchingfor right now Maine basically came up with
an entire marketing program about how youknow reading was education and this and the
(44:52):
other thing. They didn't focus atall on the porn links that they provided
in this book list from the mainteacher that you're Kelsey Staianova. They just
continue to talk about how you know, education is one of those robust things
and you shouldn't have any burden uponit, you shouldn't have any you know,
guardrails on it. And it's justinsane. I mean, the piece
that gets worse, it's unfortunate.And you mentioned one of the articles the
(45:14):
EBSCO explorer for high school on sexeducation term anal sex. So you search
on that, it leads to anarticle It's time to ease your fears and
your sphincter, and you mentioned thatearlier and it reads in part heterosexual anal
sex has become fashionable. Some guysare boob men, others are legs men,
but in the bedroom they're all bummen. And then it goes on
(45:36):
to say, listen, fellas,this is a gift. If you want
it, you have to earn it. And again the same thing, the
articles embedded with monetized hyperlinks and numerousadult websites like kinkly dot com and others.
And so I agree with you.Like to me, when these local
or national, statewide, whoever itis, these legislators, these people in
(45:58):
political power understand, Hey, youcan't hide behind the fact you didn't know
anymore. Because I sent it rightto your email. It's a public record.
And that's one of the things Itell all of our listeners. You
could go on your website and basicallyalmost cut and paste and replace some of
the words with localized content. Becauseit's vital to understand that the EBSCO database
(46:19):
contained to constitute a closed and commerciallyowned system, so they can't be filtered.
It's all something that these EBSCO folksthought, Yeah, that's worth putting
in there. Let's put porn hubin there. I mean, it's it's
just it's a huge risk. Yeah, it's a risk for student safety's it's
the databases, to my mind,are a scam. Okay, so any
(46:39):
scholastic contents and there's probably just alost leader for the real product, which
is the advertising and it's targeting kto host school children with marketing including for
adults products and services. And bythe way, it may not be illegal
to feed that to eighteen nineteen yearold college students, but I don't know
(47:00):
think that's what most parents want topay for either in the colleges. No.
I mean, it's it's immoral,right, it's it is. It's
immoral on the on just the verysurface, and then you start diving further
into it. And and these arethings again, you know. I joke
that when I talk to a parent, uh, and I talk about porn
in the library, which is veryevident all across our state and across our
nation, they kind of cock theirheads sometimes like they you know, it's
(47:21):
fight flight or freeze, and thosethat want to fight me or those that
want to run away, okay,whatever, somebody cocks their head and they're
like, what did you just say? Well, you have a chance,
you know, with those folks.And that's why we do this podcast.
We're hoping to reach more people thatwill cock their head and say, holy
cow, I better start looking atyou know, my kids database for their
educational research purposes. Hey kid,what's your password? That's a password you're
(47:46):
paying for is a tax payer,it's not some you know, like you
know, it's not like Fort Knoxor anything. But but even homeschool students,
I mean, one of the thingsthat that struck me was and I
didn't think about it until I readsome of your information. You know,
teachers are placed in jeopardy. They'renow having to decide whether or not they
want to keep their job or ifthey want to, you know, resign
for this transgender, hyper sexualized nonsense. But even homeschool students who use these
(48:12):
databases kind of come in contact withthis smart while doing their research. Yeah.
Absolutely, It's very very common acrossthe country for public libraries to have
these databases and they get them,you know, into collections that they call
homework tools. Well, grown upsdon't do homework, or they'll say it's
fourteens or four kids, and sothey have these these databases with some very
(48:37):
raw content in them, and they'remarketing that directly to minors through the public
library or through the partnerships between thepublic libraries and the public schools, which
are becoming very common as well.Yeah, and you know, kind of
wrapping up and closing, and Iappreciate your time. One things stated in
your lawsuit was, quote, providingsexually explicit and obscene materials to school children
(49:00):
violates federal and state law and isharmful to children, unquote. I mean
that's the basics of it, right, I mean, so the unfortunate part
is no district attorneys in Maine andI assume not in Colorado want to hold
any of these groomers accountable. Sowhat's the status of your current lawsuit?
Is it still ongoing or is it, you know, sort of being bounced
around. I know a lot ofthese get punted up into you know,
(49:20):
larger court systems. So what's what'sthe status of your lawsuit? Well,
well, last I mentioned there's anunusual climate in Colorado. We voluntarily withdrew
that lawsuit, although we stand bythe merits of the case, and you
know, we had accomplished our goalsand getting several large school districts in Colorado
to cancel their EPSCO subscriptions at thetime, and getting the national exposure and
(49:45):
getting EPSCO onto the Dirty Dozen list, so that the language of that lawsuit
is on our website at pornography isnot Education dot org. And we hope
that it's like a relay race andsomeone else will We'll pick that up,
because yes, it is against thelaw, and it's a shame that law
enforcement doesn't step up. Yeah.I always, you know, for here
(50:08):
in main and I always go tothe sheriffs and I'm like, look,
you're supposed to be the police ofthe police, but just you know,
nobody wants to stick the reputation onthe fact that kids are being hyper sexualized
constantly behind the brick walls of theseK through twelve schools. So great resources
on your website you just mentioned it. People can go and contact you there
and then join the website. Correct, that is correct. Yes, we
(50:30):
have our email there. Were alsohave a YouTube channel with some some videos
and whatnot, so awesome. Andthen what's your what's your Twitter? X
heading? Again, what's your what'syour Yeah, our Twitter is at CCSD
Conpo. Great and the website isPornography is not Education dot Org. No,
(50:51):
I appreciate. I really wish thiswas under different circumstances. You know,
I'm starting to develop a number ofrelationships with folks in Colorado, you
know, fighting the same woke garbageis here in our schools here in Maine,
and you know we're seeing California andColorado and Washington State, Oregon.
You know, really unfortunately leading thepack along with Maine in just this just
garbage that's being infiltrated into our schoolSo I really appreciate you being with us
(51:15):
today on main source of truth.Well, thank you so much for your
time. So some final truths.I really appreciate Robin coming on today.
World Library Association. As a mentionedfull disclosure, I'm an unpaid board member.
What we're trying to do is makesure that schools follow laws like Board
of Education versus Pico, nineteen eightytwo US Supreme Court. It allows schools
to remove educationally unsuitable and pervasively vulgarmaterials and do so immediately. They don't
(51:40):
have to go through a bunch ofthis book challenge nonsense. They can pull
the garbage off the shelf immediately.It just takes balls and ovaries for someone
to actually do that. So WorldLibrary Association is a no nonsense alternative to
the American Library Association run by EmilyDrabenski. The markis Lesbian who believes library
(52:01):
should be the socialist sites of socialsorganizing again all of her words, it's
just insane. So I really appreciateit. The other thing I mentioned Don
Dan Bongino, he often says,we experience, and this is what we
experience here in Maine. We're experiencingit right now. No Democrats act like
Republicans, but many Republicans act likedemocrats. And when liberties are being taken
(52:22):
away, even alleged conservative media groupsor alleged conservative groups grifting for money,
all they do is write stern emails. They don't do anything. It's a
completely worthless endeavor. They're not challengingthe system, using their rights to do
so. They're backing away because they'reballless. It's really unfortunate. So you
(52:47):
know, it's pathetic the people whoreally can battle in the arena of confrontational
politics and those who just talk aboutit. So listen. I appreciate listening
to the podcast. Please share itwith others. Subscribe so you get all
the updates, Round round them up, round them up data. All right,
(53:38):
that was shine Down. This wasthe main source of Truth podcast.
Search for the show on Facebook andgive us a like. I've been your
host. Sean mcbriardy, follow meon Twitter, Truth Social and YouTube.
We're working hard to keep the truthalive and we'd love to have you donate
it. Give us send go slash, Sean mcbriardy, PayPal or Venmo.
I hope you enjoyed the show
Pornography is not Education is a parentgroup led by our next guest, Robin
Patterson. They're a nonprofit organization dedicatedto ensuring that the children attending our schools
and libraries are provided with a safe, nurturing learning environment. Critical to this
mission is a removal of pornographic materials, images and advertisements and videos from K
through twelve research or homework databases,which we'll be talking about. She's been
(00:22):
fighting the school in library porns intwenty sixteen, and their motto is they
won't stop until we make them.That goes for a lot of things in
Maine, including Tommy Tyrant. ShnnaBellows, our appointed secretary of State who
last week created a thirty one pagenothing burger to stay her illegal and reprehensible
decision to take Trump off the ballotuntil the Supreme Court rules on it.
(00:42):
This is the main source of Truthpodcast, and very few parents have said
anything, but Shawn mcgriarty did.Sean mcbrity is in the faults of miss
today. Sean, though, howpervasive is that in our school? Sean
mcgriarty joins us now. He justwon this law suit and gets forty thousand
dollars from the school board. Goodmorning, Shawn, you're his most dangerous
(01:03):
dad. Apparently. How are youare you being soon or what you do
by a local district for exposing thetransgender library display? Can you explain to
what's what happen? Hey, youare so with everything that's going on to
be just talked to this It's likealcohol mail. Yeah, about the over
(01:25):
setialization of books and libraries at thepool and they look like you put the
handle on that. That's the whyI expects you to support there. I
ask you to support this podcast ifyou want it to continue, and if
you want to help me with mylegal expenses and God willing a legal offense
fund to help others in need,please consider chipping in at www dot gibsen
(01:45):
go dot com, slash Sean mcbriardyAnd now onto the show. All right,
folks, this is season three,episode ninety three, and it's January
two, twenty twenty four as werecord this Pornography is not education will be
the title, And I wanted togive you Proverbs sixteen twenty eight. A
perverse man spreads strife and a slandererseparates intimate friends. That Bible verse is
(02:09):
about backstabbers, because this week Ihad someone I used to consider a friend
try to stab me in the back. It was a really pathetic attempt,
But this person appears to want totry to take potshots at me game on.
It's really not that big a deal, but they're showing their true colors,
and even though I've been fully transparentwith them, I'll no longer be
sticking up for them as I havefor the last several years. It's actually
(02:30):
kind of liberating when people show youwho they really are. Those folks that
essentially can't come to grips with somebodyelse doing it a different way, and
instead of them just doing it intheir own parallel lane, they decided want
to attack you. Whatever, folks, some people can't handle the truth.
They can't handle that our rights asAmericans are being eliminated every single day,
(02:51):
and we still have the ability tosay what we want where we want,
within the law and place appropriate pressureon public servants who try to circumvent the
law. Now, as updates today, that person Shenna Bellows, the public
servant. She's a Democrat. Shockerright, She's the state's first female Secretary
of State, elected by the legislatorin twenty twenty and sworn in the following
(03:15):
January. She's basically appointed by thelegislature. Maine is one of only three
states in which this position is electedby the legislator, not elected by we
the people, but by the threequarter majority bunch of goofballs in Augusta,
Maine. They're elected again elected withinthe legislature. Some are elected by the
public in most states in America,and some are appointed by the governor.
(03:38):
So Bellows on Thursday removed Donald Trumpfrom the twenty twenty four primary ballot in
Maine, although she really didn't.She referred to section of the constitution that
bars those had sworn into the oathof the Constitution from holding office if they've
been engaged in insurrection. The casestems from Trump's actions before the January sixth,
twenty twenty one attack on the USCapitol. And that's from the Washington
(04:00):
Post. I believe. Let mefind that again, Yes, from the
Washington Post. I'll call that apeaceful protest incited to become a riot caused
by Capitol police. Same Capitol policeare opening doors, ushering people in the
same Capitol police that threw flash bangsinto the crowd, and that sort of
started the entire riot situation. Butthe only person harmed that day was a
(04:23):
person who was actually shot by aCapitol police officer. And again she was
murdered essentially. But nothing else reallyof any major significance happened that day.
Bellows again she cited that the Coloradodecision, in reaching she sought out incited
the Colorado decision in reaching her conclusionthat the January sixth attack was quote violent
(04:45):
enough, potent enough, and longenough to constitute an insurrection. Now nobody
has charged Donald Trump of an insurrection. Even the FBI said it wasn't an
insurrection on January sixth, and thenthe Colorado decision was overturned, and Trump
is still right on the ballot.No, he's still rightly on our ballot
too, because what she did isshe actually stayed her thirty one page nothing
Burger decision until the Supreme Court ruleson it. So it's really it's a
(05:10):
non factor. It's all for show. Lumored with Laura Lumer, who is
following me on Twitter. I followedher for a while. She says,
quote main Secretary of State Shenna Bellowsreceived donations from the Soros family George Soros
during her twenty fourteen United States Senaterun, which he got blown out on
Bello's acceptance of Soros funding follows apattern of individuals or organizations attempting to kick
(05:31):
Trump off the ballot while being fundedby the Soros family members or organizations.
Lumur dot com had previously reported thatCrew CRW the organization leading the charge to
remove Trump from the Colorado budget Coloradoballot. Sorry, the Michigan congresswoman and
Democrat United States Senate nominee Alissa Slotkin, who supported failed attempts at removing Trump
(05:54):
from the Michigan ballot. The CaliforniaLieutenant Governor Ellenie Kolaneka US, who requested
California Secretary of State Shirley Weber toexplore every legal option to remove Trump from
the California ballot, all funded bySoro's family members. The other thing is
Shannon Bellows is in up Talker,right, So this is just something that
I noticed and it's been reported byother outlets. She raises her voice at
(06:17):
the end of each sentence like it'squestioning the madness in her own head,
because folks, she's insane. Shesaid during her first interview that we made
the decision. Then she kind ofbackpedaled and corrected herself to I, Well,
she had it right the first time. This is all about following the
money. Now, the dirt onBellows is coming fast and furious. In
October twenty twenty one, she wason a zoom call with a bunch of
(06:40):
other leftists including Colorado Secretary of State, and Bellows discusses their biggest threats to
democracy. So hold on, we'regoing to listen to that and security Bellow,
I would love to hear about yourthoughts on like our biggest threats facing
hart democracy through at this point intime. Well, what Secretary Grisibald just
said, it named is something thatwas imaginable two years ago or ten years
(07:01):
ago, and that is election sabotageis a crystal clear example of what's happening
all across the country. So weneed to organize to make sure we have
better leaders in positions of power tofight back against that. Secretary Dunson talked
about voter suppression, and that's somethingthat when we started our careers at the
(07:23):
ACLU and Southern Partty Law Center.It's fighting back about systematic structural voter oppression,
targeting specifically black and brown voters.It's rooted in white supremacy. That
is something we have to continue todo work on. And Secretary Merrill talked
about before the People Act and theFreedom to Vote Act, we must have
federal standards all across the country.And then finally, just to echo my
(07:45):
colleagues, this is rooted in adeliberate and organized campaign to discourage people from
participating in our democracy. It isan attack on our very democracy itself because
when everyone participates, it's everything thatwe care about. Social justice, climate
justice, economic justice. We win. Those on the other side are trying
(08:07):
to discourage people from participating. That'swhat this really is about. We have
to fight back to protect our democracy, to protect everything something that was unimaginable.
I mean, you just listen toher speak and she just sounds like
such a moron. She talks aboutsystematic voter oppression. The only voter oppression
we have in Maine is coming fromher office. From her she talks about
(08:30):
this being rooted in white supremacy.Such a bunch of garbage. Hey,
by the way, you're a wokewhite woman, you idiot. And then
she talks about an organized campaign fromthe people against people participating in our democracy.
She can't pass a Civics class inmiddle school. We are not a
democracy, United States. We're aconstitutional republic. We are built on the
(08:52):
foundation that it is not majority rule. There are specific things in place to
make sure that our leader, ourpresident of the United States, is inserted
properly. Now we all know that, let's go, Brandon basically stole the
election. There's no way that guygot eighty one million votes. It's pure
lunacy to think that we are doingthat. But she also mentions social and
climate justice. I mean, thisis a complete far left freak show.
(09:16):
The dirt will continue to come out, so you know again, she's a
former ACLU clan member, Hyperpartistan.Let's go brand and support her again.
It's no shock she's a Democrat,she lives with a beta male named Brandon
who looks just like a tall lesbian. And she was even trashed on CNN
for her idiotic ruling, with politicalanalysts calling it mind boggling and comical.
(09:37):
Now even leftist Angus King, DemocratJared Golden Rhino Susan Collins all failed to
agree with Bellows, and hey,listen, she deserves everything she gets.
You can go back on my Twitter, you can go on Facebook, you
can find all of her information isonline. I've never said that anybody should
do anything beyond what you can dowithin the law, within the First Amendment,
(10:00):
within peaceful protest. If somebody wantsto camp out in front of her
house on the state road and peacefullyprotest, hey, that's what the left
has been doing for years and yearsin front of conservative outlets, conservative hosts,
Supreme Court justices, you know,you name it. Nobody is saying
that she should be swatted. Whathappened to her wasn't swatting. It's complete
(10:22):
nonsensical that some of these conservative areso called conservative people are out there trying
to make this a swatting issue.It's not. She deserves pressure. That's
basically the root cause of the entiresituation. Now, the other part of
this is that the main GEOP,which is simply a pathetic group running this,
you know, alleged conservative presence,they should be hammering main Governor Janet
(10:46):
Mills in this situation. Janet Millshas yet to say a peep on this
entire cluster, this entire clown show. Right, this entire situation. She
hasn't said a word. Mills remainedsilent to date. In the gu should
be pressuring her non stop. Alleighty members roughly of the main rhinos,
(11:07):
most of them ninety percent of themare rhinos. Let's just say it straight,
should be pressuring Mills to make astatement. Suffice to say, one
of the key GOP members wanted torecently talk some crap behind my back.
Several folks who floated this nonsensical ideato defend in my position. Basically,
everybody knows I'm a transparent guy.I talk the truth, you know facts,
don't care about your feelings. QTtime is over, folks. You
(11:30):
know the GOP again. They couldbe winning on three issues potentially four now,
one illegal immigration, to abortion,which in man, you can have
right up until you know the pointyou can see the head coming out of
the womb, and education, whichis what this podcast is all about.
They certainly could be trying to winon election interference, but they're not because
they're not organized. They are abunch of weak cowards who really don't want
(11:54):
to work that hard. And thesefar left democrats are attacking and taking away
all of our freedom. But thisGOP social club. They're afraid, they're
afraid of being called in the youknow names in the local Banger daily news.
And we've had local legislators tell usthis to our faith. So it
doesn't mean there aren't good Republicans.There are. I'm sure there are some
(12:15):
good Democrats somewhere, although I don'tknow if I've met one lately. But
again, here in Main we havea bunch of wheak conservative outlets core all
talk and no action. So Iwant to play an update from America Fest.
I had a chance to go thankyou very much for your generous donations
that offset probably about half of myexpenses, actually about a quarter or of
(12:35):
my expenses. But I caught upwith Billboard Chris, who I had a
chance to have on the podcast backon July twenty second, twenty twenty two,
way back on episode twenty seven,and we spent a little bit of
time with him, and actually onI spent some time with him on January
fourteen, twenty twenty three, almosta year ago, in front of Boston
Children's Hospital in my first actual bigtime public protest. So here's our update
(12:56):
from America Fest that I want toshare with you. All right, So
this man, the father of twogirls from British Columbia, mission to travel
North America's exposed to gender ideology,why children should not and could not content
to medical transition. You've had deaththreats made against you, You've lost your
livelihood, constant physical harassment. Idon't know if you have any broken bones
(13:18):
on you today. Okay, allright, well dogs online, really for
simply using your First Amendment rights beinghere in America walking around with the sandwich
sport. Really and so on Twitterat Billboard Chris all in one word,
pushing for a million followers, whichis amazing. Thanks here, I think
you did all right, And soyou were back on episode twenty seven my
(13:41):
podcast I think of the ninety oneor two now and Chris Elson aka Billboard
Chris, I really appreciate being it. It's my pleasure to be here.
This is an amazing event. Iwas outside this morning. I'd been outside
for thirty seconds. It was abouteight o'clock in the morning. I thought
I'll catch some people as they comein, and I ran into a guy
California who has lost his son becauseat the age of two, when his
(14:03):
little boy was still in diapers,the mother decided that their little baby boy
was really a girl, and thefather spoke out against this, and so
he was giving a temporary restraining order. Even though there was no pistical abuse
or anything like that. He simplyobjected to the affirmation of his child of
being a girl. And now hehas a five year restraining order. He's
(14:26):
gone not to talk to his son. And unless we put a stop to
this business a child transition in fiveor six years time, when this kid
starts to say puberty, mom forsure will be blocking his puberty and altering
the course of his life. So, yeah, he's stoped to it.
He's gonna be messed up forever.As you know, as you helped me
learn those chemical castration drugs, there'sno going back really there. They're permanent
side effects. They're really detrimental toespecially a growing, you know, youth
(14:50):
and those kind of things. Oneof the things I want to ask is
you know how you went from yourkind of first sandwich board experience to now
being voted by Charlie Kirk and reallyhaving a lot of folks know who you
are. You've made a difference andyou've you've really this is a calling for
you. I would have to believe, and it's not something that anybody would
(15:11):
have imagined. But thinking yourself wayback, probably in British Columbia when you
first did that, to where youare today, and maybe give me a
little summary on how that just crazyride has occurred. Well, I knew
if I just kept going that there'sonly one way this can go is I'm
going to continue to make more peopleaware. I'm going to activate more people
who start to fight back. That'sone of my main goals. And I'm
(15:35):
reminded of this speech that the newPresident of Argentina recently gave, Javier Amelie.
He said that he's not here toguide sheep, He's here to awaken
alliance. And that's part of whatI've been trying to do this whole time,
because I knew just if I keptgoing and stay persistent, going out
there every day, that all sortsof people would come along who would start
(15:56):
fighting this in their own way,the lawyers, the doctors, who ever.
So you just keep going, andwhen you're persistent, things grow.
So I'm not at all surprised wherewe've come to today, and in a
lot of ways, I still thinkthis is just the beginning well, that's
amazing. Do you have any insights, Chris on how many children and families
you've saved by your advascy work.I mean, I know that's probably overwhelming
(16:17):
to think about, but that's ultimatelywhy you're doing this. You know,
do you have a number in yourhead, like, even if it's one,
it's obviously worthwhile. But there's there'sgot to be hundreds or thousands of
kids. Well, there are lotsof kids and families that I've been talking
with where the kids have already comeout of this phase. But really,
I think ninety nine percent of thegood work that will come of this will
(16:38):
be stuff I never hear about becauseI'm acting proactively to help educate parents so
they can have these conversations with theirkids so their kids never fall down this
rabbit hole in the first place.So I'm never gonna hear about those And
that's just great because there's not muchwe can do about the damage that's been
done, but we can stop damagefrom happening. So it's all the looking
(17:00):
forward. Yeah, no doubt youdid. You come to this conference with
a set of goals in mind,and you know, I mean, I
know Charlie mentioned twenty twenty four isgonna be his hardest working year ever.
And that hit home to me,you know, trying to do this sort
of unemployed dad, just kind ofin Maine, trying to figure out what
to do with myself. You've hada chance to travel all around the country,
and so you know, do youthink you're gonna be able to work
(17:22):
harder in twenty twenty four than youare? Or is that you know we'd
like, well, how did youtake that from last night? Well,
I can't really work harder than Ihave been working the last three years,
to be honest with you, butI can work differently. So one thing
that's going on now because things evolveand they change, and I have such
a large social media reach now thatI need to focus more on some of
the other platforms. So I've justwe've had renters in our basements week for
(17:47):
seventeen years. I gave her anotice in August. She's moved out.
So I've converted that into a studio. So I'm gonna be conducting a lot
more interviews, doing podcasts. I'mgonna get my YouTube channel going, get
other platforms going. I'm gonna makea lot of short educational videos because people
need two or three minutes, yeah, on different subjects to learn how to
message on this. So yeah,I'll get the socials going more and more
(18:07):
for sure than I have. ThenI'll get my website updated. But my
bread and butter is always going tobe out on the street. Yeah.
Yeah, you are a man ofthe street, There's no doubt. And
I wasn't almost a year ago thatyou and I were standing in front of
Boston Children's Hospital in the freezing rainwith one hundred and fifty cops around us,
waiting for Antifa to show up,which is still an amazing That is
my first ever protest that I've everbeen to, right, and people call
(18:30):
me an activist all the time.I'm like, look, I've been a
one protest and it was in frontof a hospital, So you know,
I really appreciate it. I'm gladthat you're here. I'm glad to see
again. You know, if youever need a strong dad talking about education,
you know where to find me.And I really appreciate the success you've
had. It's good and bad success, right, I mean, there's so
much evil in the system you can'ttake care of all of it. But
(18:52):
you're trying to take a piece,You're trying to step forward and step up,
and I just really appreciate it.Thank you so much, John,
I really appreciate you and all thework that you keep going. Thanks man,
thank you. Alright, awesome,let's take a photo and yeah we're
either she is all right? Sothat was awesome again catching up with Chris
after you know, not seeing himfor a year. But that was at
America Fest in Phoenix. And I'llbe sharing more of those sort of man
(19:15):
on the street kind of discussions.I talk to a lot of people.
I might do one podcast with themall included. I haven't decided yet,
but one of the things Chris saysis I'm not here to wake up the
sheep. I'm here to wake upthe lions. And that's on a T
shirt I often wear. So Chrisalso mentioned working differently using social media platforms
as a different way to work harderin twenty twenty four. That might be
something that I need to look atas well. You know what is my
(19:37):
reach podcast platforming? Again, thisis kind of a fledgling podcast. There's
certain core group of folks that listento everyone, and I appreciate it.
We need to either determine how tofigure out how to get this out some
more ears, or we need todo something different. So, as I
always say, please share it,please like it, please subscribe, and
hey listen. If you want toend up supporting the podcast, you can
(19:59):
do that a number of different ways. You can now do it as a
paid subscriber to my sub stack.I think I have one. It's five
bucks a month if you enjoy someof the content that I provide, some
of the writings. I'm getting moreinto writing articles national articles on your news
and then certainly www dot Gibson godot com slash Sean McBride, you can
you know again, pitch in ananytime and I will not keep a dime.
(20:23):
The way I've set this currently upis I just want to make sure
I can pay for my expenses,and I have cost my family two hundred
and fifty thousand dollars over the lasttwo and a half years by not working,
by doing this as a calling.That's my choice, but that choice
can't continue without your support. DrewPatterson, our guest husband, remembers when
he and his wife realized their middleschool daughter's online school account in the Cherry
(20:45):
Creek School District was linked to raw, unfiltered pornography. She called to him,
you need to come here right nowand see if I'm seeing what I
think I'm seeing. Drew Patterson said, it was just appalling and the thought
our middle school daughter could be exposedto that was just appalling. She is
at CCSD Convo on Twitter now knownas x and also you can follow their
(21:08):
work on Pornography is Not Education dotorg or pine online. Their advocates for
beneficial, age appropriate educational materials inColorado. Colorado, like Maine, a
hotbed for the woke. Pornography isNot Education is a nonprofit organization dedicated to
ensuring that the children attending our schoolsand libraries are provided with safe, nurturing
(21:32):
learning environment. Critical to the missionit is the removal of pornographic material,
images and advertisements and videos from theK through twelve research or homework databases that
will be speaking about. They alsofiled a lawsuit against the Colorado Library Consortium
in an Alabama, Bama company calledEbsco. The lawsuit was brought on behalf
of the parents by the Thomas MooreSociety, a national nonprofit law firm that
(21:56):
describes itself as dedicated to restore respectin the law for life, family and
religious liberty, something I think allof our listeners can get behind. It's
asking that a judge issued an injunctionstopping EBSCO and the consortium from providing databases
that contained pornography to underage kids.Seems pretty basic, right, So she's
(22:17):
been fighting school and library porn sincetwenty sixteen, and their motto is they
won't stop until we make them pornographyis not education. As a parent group
led by our next guest, RobinPatterson, and I want to welcome her
to the Main Source of Truth podcast. So Robin, thank you so much
(22:38):
for joining us today on Main Sourcesof Truth. Please, you know,
kind of tell little listeners how yougot involved in this fight. I mean,
I obviously did the introduction, buthow did you get involved in fighting
pornography in schools? And then we'regoing to dive into some of the detailed
parts of the lawsuit. Sure,well, thank you so much for having
me on, But this goes backto twenty sixteen. I can't believe it's
been seven years since we stumbled onpornography in our own local school. We
(23:03):
certainly weren't looking for it, justhelping our kids with their homework. And
back in those days, in sixteenand seventeen, it wasn't well known like
it is today. And I'm sureyour listeners are you know, are hearing
about pornography in schools, mostly inthe books and ebooks. Now this is
around the country that awareness has beenraised, but back in those days it
was we were a little ahead ofthe curve there, and we were looking
(23:26):
at the digital research databases. Theseare best thought of as digital electronic encyclopedias,
and we've found it's just a handfulof big global companies. You have
Ebsco, Ebsco, Epsco, galeSengage Proquests and that's where we were finding
the pornography and the school was notresponsive to us, and the state was
(23:49):
not responsive to us at the time. So we went on to co found
disorganization, pornography is not education,and to try and take different strategies to
apply pressure not only here in Coloradobut across the country. We've networked now
with roughly throyquest states. Yeah,and I think you know, we have
(24:10):
some common connections that we'll probably speakabout here, but for me, yeah,
I mean, twenty sixteen is alifetime ago. You know, in
dog years, it's like twenty sevenyears ago or more at this point.
Right. So one of the thingsthat I say is I didn't get involved
into what I call the hyper sexualizationof students in schools until the fall of
twenty twenty one, when I foundout that the main teacher of the year,
Kelsey Stoyanova in my local school districthere, was being celebrated for pushing
(24:34):
pornography on kids. And so,you know, a lot of us are
starting to come around. Parents arestarting to come around, but it's it's
like a slow burn. It's anarduous process, like every day you're clawing
and scratching to get people just tounderstand what's happening. So one of the
things that I was when I wasdoing some research, can you describe a
(24:55):
little bit what ebsco industry does somethingto do with research databases, but they're
specifically targeting school children with actually explicitmaterials. Correct, that is correct.
They do target school children and theycall themselves information curators. So you have
Epsco and Gale are the two maincompanies, and they're very ubiquitous. I
(25:15):
think a lot of parents don't evenrealize that they have these digital resources in
their school. You could throw adart at the map of the United States
or even the world, and youwill find these databases and they're information curators.
Well, that brings two problems intoplay. One, you're paying a
private company to curate information not onlyfor K twelve, but for college students
(25:36):
too, by the way, andso you're getting what we have reports,
multiple reports of you know, informationbias, political bias. And we're starting
to also take a look at alot of the what I would call very
unscientific information that children can be bornin the wrong body. There's a lot
of this type of information, butmainly this very very dangerous right down to
(26:00):
the elementary school level with these Galeand ebscode databases. But we've focused a
lot on the pornography and the adultadvertising in these and so what they do.
These databases cannot be filtered. Theybypass ordinary filtering. So their corporate
owned and their sold to schools assafe and reliable alternatives to the Internet.
(26:23):
And so school buy these believing youknow that this is these are educationally sound,
but at the same time their businessmodel requires them to go to their
publishing and advertising partners and tell themgive us your media, you know,
whether it's books, magazines, youknow, what have you. They take
(26:44):
that media and we'll get it tothe right audience for you. So we'll
expand your product recognition, will expandyour marketplace, your market reach. And
so this really is at odds withthe goal of providing scholastic materials for school
children. Well yeah, and soone of the things I read here was
the services are purchased by the ColoradoLibrary Consortium called Click for one hundred and
(27:07):
seventy one Colorado school districts and anumber of libraries in the state. But
it's not just a Colorado thing.In fact, EBSCO services fifty five thousand
schools nationwide. Well, that's right, it is. It's across the country.
And so they have this business model. EPSCO even calls themselves the natural
partner. And what they're doing isthey're really satisfying the needs of their publishing
and advertising partners. And that's howyou know, children thinking they're just doing
(27:33):
their homework or their classwork, arefinding they find advertisements for sex shops.
Sometimes these are embedded with apparently monetizedhyperlinks to a variety of sex shops to
hardcore porn. We found links toporn hub, torture porn sites in some
of the databases now the GALE databases, people are reporting even advertisements for cannabis
(27:59):
and online. It's all about themoney and we always you know, work
through that. And one of thethings that we'll do a little follow up
on here in the next coming weeksis that off the air you mentioned that
you know, main students are alsofed through this digital main library aspect,
some of these EBSCODE databases. Soone of the things that you know you
mentioned is you know, bondage siteslust BDSM. They market to school children
(28:21):
things like an ebook called Pornography inAmerica, a reference handbook adult erotica,
torture porn sites you mentioned, andyou know, over one hundred instances of
advertising for a large scale sex toystore are all linked into these EBSCO databases
which are closed, right, sothey're not something that the schools can filter
out. You can't filter out thisonline sexualized content because it's basically baked into
(28:45):
the model. Correct. That iscorrect? Yes, And often you know,
the other side, when defending thiswill say, well, we have
filters in our school. But thosefilters are not going to go inside a
privately owned digital encyclopedia as it were. So this information, everything that's in
these databases was selected for inclusion.Both EPSCO and Sengage Gale, the main
(29:07):
providers of databases, promise that theyhave a team of information curators to provide
the most reliable and scholastic and educationalmaterial. So if it's in there,
they put it in there. Well, yeah, part part of your lawsuit,
I think I started in terrupt partof the lawsuit says. On November
eighteen, twenty sixteen, a memberof Pornography Is Not Education spoke with an
(29:30):
EBSCO sales representative who sold EBSCO productsto Click. He admitted EBSCO was fully
aware of the sexual, sexually explicitcontent of its schools products marketed, even
to elementary schools. And that wasa quote. So yeah, I mean
and here in Colorado, and itis a similar type of model around the
(29:52):
country. In many cases, you'llhave a state level entity. It could
be the Secretary of State, Departmentof ED in Colorado with a not profit
or quasi government agency and they brokeerthis stuff. So they're getting wholesale,
you know, deals from EPSCO andGale the commercial vendors for the databases.
They then make them. I thinkin Maine it's either free or low cost.
(30:15):
They make this available to schools andlibraries and colleges across the state.
For example, you could be sittingin a middle school in Maine and your
library is going to have a linkto the digital main library where they have
a lot of Gale an EPSCO databasesin Colorado? Can you describe Gail a
little bit as well? So EBSCOis one component is Gale Like is it?
(30:38):
Is it? Ford and Chevy kindof like, are they the two
main databases in the in the space? Yeah, they are. They're They're
very very similar and they have similarbusiness models. Just for the referends.
I'm a RAM, I'm a Ramtruck guy, not a not a Ford
Chevy guy. Well what I thinkhappened? You know, EPSCO dominated the
market and then when we out thelawsuit, we got a lot of national
(31:02):
attention, a lot of interviews,and we raised a lot of awareness.
EPSCO was actually put on the socalled Duty dozen list by the Center on
Sexual Exploitation, and the link tothat is on our website. But you
know, so they got a lotof bad press, and I think that
what happened was a lot of schoolsand libraries. So well, maybe we
(31:22):
won't use EPSCO anymore, will useengauge Gale. In fact, that happened
in our own school here in Colorado, and it turned out that the engage
was just as bad. Yeah,it's not worse. One of the things
I said here was a Gale databaseis Solicit's clickbait for adult hookup sites to
the K through twelve school So again, it's all about the money, like
they can't it's not that they're justdrifting off of taxpayers and taking taxpayer money
(31:48):
to do this. They're also sortof secondarily selling to the pornography market,
which obviously we're just seeing. Theamount of sex is continuous. I mean
books like gender Queer for example.One of the pages it has a direct
link to kink dot com. I'vegone to kink dot com. I'm not
I'm not proud of going there,but it is a hardcore BDSM site and
(32:08):
instantaneously once you pass through the RUeighteen button which you just click on,
it's it's instant, you know,just disgusting content. I mean, it's
it's so easy for a school childto sort of just wander down that path
and all of a sudden, youknow it's porn for days, and you're
doing it through your school laptop,right, and it appears to be endorsed
(32:30):
by the school because the teacher toldthe kids to go there. So this'ially
puts teachers in a bad spot.You know, if they don't know about
it, they ought to know aboutit, and they shouldn't look the other
way because it's a difficult position forthem. And a lot of the time
the information or the sexually inappropriate contentand advertising is it sort of floats to
(32:52):
the top. So let me giveyou some examples. It's like it's designed.
I was doing research, pretending tobe a child, doing research on
the prison system, and I endedup on an article called Boys half Way
House, which is embedded with apparentlymonetized hyperlinks to hardcore torture porn websites.
And again, like you say,you just click on the Yeah, I'm
(33:14):
eighteen. I was doing research onrace relations and I ended up on articles,
a ton of articles with things likerace play BDSM articles. If you
search on health or you know,sex ed type of topics. You get
things for children as young as elementaryschools. Sometimes time to ease your fears
(33:35):
and your sphincter. Yeah, yeah, that's all. That's what I want
to talk about. I mean,it is a I mean part of part
of where this is all coming from. So I'm a member of the World
Library Association. I'm an unpaid boardmember. I mean, we advocate that
school boards stop paying the local AmericanLibrary Association or whatever the spinoff is in
Main, it's the Main Library Association. It's the same thing because the al
(34:00):
is run by a Marxist lesbian herwords, Emily Drabinski, who believes libraryes
should be the site of socialist organizing. Also her words, right, And
so you know again the Supreme CourtBoard of Education versus Pico nineteen eighty two,
the US Supreme Court allows schools toremove educationally unsuitable and pervasively vulgar materials
(34:20):
and do so immediately. But theydon't want that to happen, right,
All they do is continue to doubledown. And what they said was the
EPSCO said their resources were vetted anddependable. It's a quote, and that
also they inaccurately said your group wason a crusade to ban and burn all
electronic resources from schools and libraries,and then accused some of the parents of
(34:43):
modern day book banning. So thereaction, you know, that's the reaction
constant from the left. It's notlike, hey, we overstepped our bounds.
We went way down a very darkroad. We need to pull ourselves
back. It's always like, no, you're a book banner. Well,
and you have to understand too thatthe ala, you know, the ad
Hominem attacks on anyone who says,hey, no porn for kids. They
(35:07):
call you a sensor. But theyalso have a financial conflict of interest as
well as being ideologically bizarre and withtheir Bill of Rights and thinking that you
know, anything goes. But theyare kind of shilling for these commercial vendors.
So for example, you have ebsco, Gale, you have your commercial
(35:30):
database vendors, and some publishers.They actually formed a group called the Corporate
Committee for Library Investments, so they'relobbying the IMLS, the Institute of Museum
and Library Services, for money forlibraries across the country. Well, libraries
show their gratitude by purchasing their commercialproducts, their books, their databases,
(35:51):
their ebook platforms and so on.So you have a very circuitous financial relationship,
and that's why they call people namesthat don't make any sense, and
people can plain about their product.Well, the interesting thing I think,
Robin is that again her words likeshe's proud of being a Marxist lesbian.
I don't care if she's a lesbian, but she uses it for leverage,
and she thinks it by saying thatthat people are going to back off because
(36:13):
they're like, oh no, Idon't want to upset an LGBTQ member.
All it should tell is tell parentsand taxpayers that this is a trans cult.
They're all part of it, they'reall in on it. And she's
literally saying that, you know,she's a socialist. She enjoys socialist organizing
in your local library. And we'veseen it here, we've seen in my
local library down the road here.Actually was was pushing against me not to
(36:36):
make it on the local town councilbecause they were afraid that I was going
to burn books, which is ridiculous. Like the only people that are that
are not allowing books to go inthe library are librarians, right, and
and so you know, we justsay, look, look this, this
is pervasively vulgar material that has noreason. It's educationally unsuitable, shouldn't be
(36:58):
there to begin with. You can'tban something that shouldn't have been there to
begin with. And one of thethings I had an argument with a teacher
here locally in the school a fewweeks back, and I said, listen,
would you put a loaded handgun inthe library? And he kind of
cocked his head and he said,oh, WHOA, that's not the same
And I said, well, itkind of is the same. Like innocence
lost from a child can never beregained. It's the death of their innocence.
(37:22):
And he said, well, ahandgun has to be fired or something,
and I said, yeah, bookhas to be read. I mean,
it's the same deal. Like itdoesn't make any difference. But what
they're doing is they're you know,they're putting a loaded handgun or a grenade.
They're pulling a pin on a grenade, thrown it in the library or
in this case, you know EBSCOor Gale database is and they're saying,
well, you know, maybe nobodywill find it, but they do.
(37:43):
It's so easy, and it's andit's like stuff that we thought were whispers,
you know, a few years ago. I mean twenty sixteen is a
lifetime ago. But you know nowit's a poster on the wall a library.
That's true. And you know,the ALA is also involved in other
activities. They have toolkits. Thisis very top down, I believe.
They have a program that was underthe Obama administration. It was started.
(38:07):
It was called ed Connect Challenge,and this is a top down driven through
the American Library Association, and theyhave toolkits and what they do is they
this is for school librarians around thecountry to find ways to collaborate with the
local public libraries. And so whatwe have found at pornography is not education.
(38:28):
As we've actually we've been engaged withlegislation. We've had twelve states introduced
in six states paths or model legislation. But as we do this, what
happens is sometimes the schools will startto self regulate. Okay, that's what
we saw here in Colorado. Sothey cancel the EPSCO maybe some Gaale databases.
They call the companies and say getthis cleaned up, white you have
(38:51):
porn and you know, sex shopads. And as that happens, they
then are backdoring the students into thelocal public life, very top down,
driven by the ALA. And sothis happens in various ways. So in
our schools and around the country,you can have seamless access. So for
example, and I also see thisin some of the main schools that I
(39:14):
was looking at with it's all overthe country. A child can be on
their schools library website and it willsay, hey, do your research and
here's the link to your local publiclibrary. In some schools, I don't
know which schools, but in someschools they have seamless access, so if
the child's on school property, theygo right into the library, no firewalls.
(39:35):
In some schools the children are usingtheir school issued student ID members and
lieu of a library card. AndI don't know if parents realize this at
all, or if they do,do they realize that those children are exposed
potentially to every single book and everysingle database in that library. Yeah,
I mean, I think it's oneof those things that because everything is electronic,
(39:58):
that homework doesn't get past, youknow, by hand to students anymore.
Books don't come home, parents can'tsee something on the kitchen table like
they used to when you know,we were in school. And that's part
of the plan, right, that'spart of the strategy of what I would
call these groomers, these folks thatare grooming you know, children sexually.
They're trying to normalize sexuality within theseschools. But you have had success.
(40:20):
You mentioned some of the legislation andyou got your local Cherry Creek, Colorado
school district to ditch epsco correct,that is correct? Yeah, that's great.
Like I mean hit hit them withtheir pocket book? Is right of
their wallet? Is? I mean, that's the biggest thing. I think
It's really important for parents to gettheir kids go into their electronic portals because
(40:44):
that was actually how we found itoriginally. The parents have a different password.
The parents have a different electronic portal. You can maybe see your kids'
grades, but the child is seeingsomething else. And when we use our
child's password, that was when wefound all the databases, websites, serve
all kinds of stuff behind this digitalcurtain, and parents really need to get
(41:04):
in there and take a look.They need to do what they what we
call the litmus test. So andthis was actually coined by some of the
IP professionals that we worked with.They call it their naughty words search.
There shouldn't be naughty words in kidsdatabase or encyclopedias. So if you're seeing
stuff like that that those conversations needto be very public. They need to
(41:28):
include legislators, They need to beat board meetings. If you write a
letter, copy everybody and make thisbecause this is the kind of pressure.
I think a lot of educators doknow by now that there's a very serious
problem with the sexual exploitation buried insidethese databases, but they don't want to
rock the boat. Well, yeah, it's misfeasans versus malfeasance, right,
(41:51):
And I listened to Dan Bongino allthe time. He uses that phrase a
lot. I had to look themup because I didn't know what they were.
But really, misfeasance is like youreally don't know what's going on,
so you can kind of be ignorantto the point. Malfeasance is when you
know what's going on and then youchoose to do nothing, so you have
a bunch of resources on your website. One of the letters to the mayor
City Council of the Aurora Public Schooland Public Library in Colorado talked about a
(42:15):
simple search on pleasure, right,So that's kind of one of those those
knotty words, although again it shouldn'tbe naughty. But in the EBSCO explorer
for elementary school, it leads toan article called Aggression and Pleasure in the
opposite sex in the same sex mainstreamonline pornography. Then it reads, in
part quote, swearing is a languageof emotion and is common during sex,
(42:36):
such as fuck yeah or shit thatfeels good, ejaculation in the mouth,
on the face, spanking, hairpulling, face, and body hitting,
choking. It contains that link campaigncontains monetized live hyperlinks to pornhub indebted embedded
in the article like pornhub, Imean pornhub. That's insane. It's insane.
(42:57):
Yeah, it's insane, and itit's I can't imagine the harm that
this can really cost to a childof any age. But yes, elementary
school. We have shared this informationwith Colorado state leaders. We have had
meetings with the state librarian and withhigh level school board state school board members,
(43:20):
and nothing has been done. AndColorado, and this may be the
case for other states as well,appears to have an unusual financial relationship with
EPSCO. So when we started bringingthese claims out. Instead of jumping to
help keep the students safe, whatthey did instead was they created information that
I believe they passed around to allthe school districts in the state of Colorado
(43:45):
encouraging them to continue using EPSCO anddon't pay any attention to the tinfoil hats
out there. And then they've doneone hundred thousand dollars grant from EPSCO for
one of their libraries. We've passedthis information to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation.
So you know, I can onlyspeak to Colorado. I wonder what's
happening around the country. I dowonder why some people are so loath to
(44:08):
step up and help the kids,help get this well, I think I
think you hit it on the head. I mean, it's it's a follow
of the money scenario, right,So all of these folks basically are tied
somehow to some financial institution, andsomebody above them is saying, hey,
listen, if you get rid ofus, there's gonna be problems for you.
We're we're gonna call you a homophobeor a bigot or a racist or
(44:30):
whatever it is. None of that. Obviously, Well, I'm actually obviously
in most cases, none of thatstuff is true, but they use it
as leverage and weak people fall forit all the time. One of the
things the local main and I'm searchingfor right now Maine basically came up with
an entire marketing program about how youknow reading was education and this and the
(44:52):
other thing. They didn't focus atall on the porn links that they provided
in this book list from the mainteacher that you're Kelsey Staianova. They just
continue to talk about how you know, education is one of those robust things
and you shouldn't have any burden uponit, you shouldn't have any you know,
guardrails on it. And it's justinsane. I mean, the piece
that gets worse, it's unfortunate.And you mentioned one of the articles the
(45:14):
EBSCO explorer for high school on sexeducation term anal sex. So you search
on that, it leads to anarticle It's time to ease your fears and
your sphincter, and you mentioned thatearlier and it reads in part heterosexual anal
sex has become fashionable. Some guysare boob men, others are legs men,
but in the bedroom they're all bummen. And then it goes on
(45:36):
to say, listen, fellas,this is a gift. If you want
it, you have to earn it. And again the same thing, the
articles embedded with monetized hyperlinks and numerousadult websites like kinkly dot com and others.
And so I agree with you.Like to me, when these local
or national, statewide, whoever itis, these legislators, these people in
(45:58):
political power understand, Hey, youcan't hide behind the fact you didn't know
anymore. Because I sent it rightto your email. It's a public record.
And that's one of the things Itell all of our listeners. You
could go on your website and basicallyalmost cut and paste and replace some of
the words with localized content. Becauseit's vital to understand that the EBSCO database
(46:19):
contained to constitute a closed and commerciallyowned system, so they can't be filtered.
It's all something that these EBSCO folksthought, Yeah, that's worth putting
in there. Let's put porn hubin there. I mean, it's it's
just it's a huge risk. Yeah, it's a risk for student safety's it's
the databases, to my mind,are a scam. Okay, so any
(46:39):
scholastic contents and there's probably just alost leader for the real product, which
is the advertising and it's targeting kto host school children with marketing including for
adults products and services. And bythe way, it may not be illegal
to feed that to eighteen nineteen yearold college students, but I don't know
(47:00):
think that's what most parents want topay for either in the colleges. No.
I mean, it's it's immoral,right, it's it is. It's
immoral on the on just the verysurface, and then you start diving further
into it. And and these arethings again, you know. I joke
that when I talk to a parent, uh, and I talk about porn
in the library, which is veryevident all across our state and across our
nation, they kind of cock theirheads sometimes like they you know, it's
(47:21):
fight flight or freeze, and thosethat want to fight me or those that
want to run away, okay,whatever, somebody cocks their head and they're
like, what did you just say? Well, you have a chance,
you know, with those folks.And that's why we do this podcast.
We're hoping to reach more people thatwill cock their head and say, holy
cow, I better start looking atyou know, my kids database for their
educational research purposes. Hey kid,what's your password? That's a password you're
(47:46):
paying for is a tax payer,it's not some you know, like you
know, it's not like Fort Knoxor anything. But but even homeschool students,
I mean, one of the thingsthat that struck me was and I
didn't think about it until I readsome of your information. You know,
teachers are placed in jeopardy. They'renow having to decide whether or not they
want to keep their job or ifthey want to, you know, resign
for this transgender, hyper sexualized nonsense. But even homeschool students who use these
(48:12):
databases kind of come in contact withthis smart while doing their research. Yeah.
Absolutely, It's very very common acrossthe country for public libraries to have
these databases and they get them,you know, into collections that they call
homework tools. Well, grown upsdon't do homework, or they'll say it's
fourteens or four kids, and sothey have these these databases with some very
(48:37):
raw content in them, and they'remarketing that directly to minors through the public
library or through the partnerships between thepublic libraries and the public schools, which
are becoming very common as well.Yeah, and you know, kind of
wrapping up and closing, and Iappreciate your time. One things stated in
your lawsuit was, quote, providingsexually explicit and obscene materials to school children
(49:00):
violates federal and state law and isharmful to children, unquote. I mean
that's the basics of it, right, I mean, so the unfortunate part
is no district attorneys in Maine andI assume not in Colorado want to hold
any of these groomers accountable. Sowhat's the status of your current lawsuit?
Is it still ongoing or is it, you know, sort of being bounced
around. I know a lot ofthese get punted up into you know,
(49:20):
larger court systems. So what's what'sthe status of your lawsuit? Well,
well, last I mentioned there's anunusual climate in Colorado. We voluntarily withdrew
that lawsuit, although we stand bythe merits of the case, and you
know, we had accomplished our goalsand getting several large school districts in Colorado
to cancel their EPSCO subscriptions at thetime, and getting the national exposure and
(49:45):
getting EPSCO onto the Dirty Dozen list, so that the language of that lawsuit
is on our website at pornography isnot Education dot org. And we hope
that it's like a relay race andsomeone else will We'll pick that up,
because yes, it is against thelaw, and it's a shame that law
enforcement doesn't step up. Yeah.I always, you know, for here
(50:08):
in main and I always go tothe sheriffs and I'm like, look,
you're supposed to be the police ofthe police, but just you know,
nobody wants to stick the reputation onthe fact that kids are being hyper sexualized
constantly behind the brick walls of theseK through twelve schools. So great resources
on your website you just mentioned it. People can go and contact you there
and then join the website. Correct, that is correct. Yes, we
(50:30):
have our email there. Were alsohave a YouTube channel with some some videos
and whatnot, so awesome. Andthen what's your what's your Twitter? X
heading? Again, what's your what'syour Yeah, our Twitter is at CCSD
Conpo. Great and the website isPornography is not Education dot Org. No,
(50:51):
I appreciate. I really wish thiswas under different circumstances. You know,
I'm starting to develop a number ofrelationships with folks in Colorado, you
know, fighting the same woke garbageis here in our schools here in Maine,
and you know we're seeing California andColorado and Washington State, Oregon.
You know, really unfortunately leading thepack along with Maine in just this just
garbage that's being infiltrated into our schoolSo I really appreciate you being with us
(51:15):
today on main source of truth.Well, thank you so much for your
time. So some final truths.I really appreciate Robin coming on today.
World Library Association. As a mentionedfull disclosure, I'm an unpaid board member.
What we're trying to do is makesure that schools follow laws like Board
of Education versus Pico, nineteen eightytwo US Supreme Court. It allows schools
to remove educationally unsuitable and pervasively vulgarmaterials and do so immediately. They don't
(51:40):
have to go through a bunch ofthis book challenge nonsense. They can pull
the garbage off the shelf immediately.It just takes balls and ovaries for someone
to actually do that. So WorldLibrary Association is a no nonsense alternative to
the American Library Association run by EmilyDrabenski. The markis Lesbian who believes library
(52:01):
should be the socialist sites of socialsorganizing again all of her words, it's
just insane. So I really appreciateit. The other thing I mentioned Don
Dan Bongino, he often says,we experience, and this is what we
experience here in Maine. We're experiencingit right now. No Democrats act like
Republicans, but many Republicans act likedemocrats. And when liberties are being taken
(52:22):
away, even alleged conservative media groupsor alleged conservative groups grifting for money,
all they do is write stern emails. They don't do anything. It's a
completely worthless endeavor. They're not challengingthe system, using their rights to do
so. They're backing away because they'reballless. It's really unfortunate. So you
(52:47):
know, it's pathetic the people whoreally can battle in the arena of confrontational
politics and those who just talk aboutit. So listen. I appreciate listening
to the podcast. Please share itwith others. Subscribe so you get all
the updates, Round round them up, round them up data. All right,
(53:38):
that was shine Down. This wasthe main source of Truth podcast.
Search for the show on Facebook andgive us a like. I've been your
host. Sean mcbriardy, follow meon Twitter, Truth Social and YouTube.
We're working hard to keep the truthalive and we'd love to have you donate
it. Give us send go slash, Sean mcbriardy, PayPal or Venmo.
I hope you enjoyed the show
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy, Jess Hilarious, And Charlamagne Tha God!