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Intrepid correspondents Graham and John Paul are bringing you season's greetings with the official MLD 2025 Gift Guide.

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Girlfriend Material's Hyped For The Holidays
Dan Mangan's New Album Natural Light
We Are Scientists / Keith Murray's 20th Anniversary of With Love And Squalor
Chris Stamey's New Album Anything is Possible
Morgan Nagler's New Single “Cradle the Pain"
The Blasters / Dave Alvin's New Album with The Third Mind Right Now! and the first vinyl pressing of his Merle Haggard tribute Tulare Dust
Save Ferris / Monique Powell's New Single "Get Dancing"
Nels Cline's New Album Consentrik Quartet
Bret Berg and Museum of Home Video's Patreon
Alan Siegel's New Book Stupid TV, Be More Funny
Brendan Bourke's artist roster including Big Special and Moon Panda
Nate Jackson and Daniel Kohn's New Book Tearing Down the Orange Curtain
Green Day / Rob Cavallo's 30th Anniversary Resissue of Dookie
Guster / Ryan Miller's 2024 Album Ooh La La
Lisa Fancher and everything from Frontier Records
The Bongos / Richard Barone's 2025 Live Album The Shroud of Touring: Live in 1985
Greg Alsop's Delta Underground Single “I Won’t Give You Up"
Claw Hammer / Bob Lee's New Band Astral Jets
Surfaris / Bob Berryhill's 60th Anniversary pressing of “Wipe Out"
Moe. / Rob Derhak's 2025 Album Circle of Giants
Wire / Colin Newman and Malka Spigel's New Immersion Album WTF??
The Watchmen / Sammy Kohn's Realtor Services
Vashti Bunyan's 20th Anniversary Reissue of Lookaftering
Rooney / Ned Brower Watch The Pitt on HBOMax
Soul Asylum / Dave Pirner's New Album Slowly but Shirley

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
From the Major Label Debut podcast network. This is MLD news.
I'm Graham right and joining me for a little bit
of shameless self promotion and then later slightly less shameless
promotion of our friends and colleagues.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Here at Major Label Debut.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
It's Major Label Debut producer John Paul Bullock, John Paul Howe.
Is your holiday season going so far? It's going spectacularly well.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
Graham at a boy.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
I am having a lot of fun running around town
doing stuff. Get ready for a little East Coast travel
sadly not to Toronto, but I will get to see
a bunch of family and friends. But in the meantime,
Los Angeles is a buzz with holiday cheer.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
And also a buzz with holiday cheer.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Me and Josh and nice transition. It's called segueing. It's
a professional trick. Sign up for my masterclass to learn
more eight hours on how to get to that. That's
right here on Major Reliable Debut. We don't just talk
about other people's music. We talk about our own music

(01:08):
when we have it to talk about. And I'm so
happy to talk about girlfriend material, my band with Josh Hook,
producer of this podcast with Jake Boyd drummer of the
great Canadian band Colorado with Joseph Grand, our friend and
public servant here in Ontario.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
You know, somebody doing a real job. We put out
a Christmas record.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Girl from Material has an album called Hyped for the Holidays,
which is streaming now, and to kick off we thought
we would chat about it very briefly.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, I'll tell you right now.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Even though I love you and I love doing this podcast,
and I'm been a fan of all of your musical output,
I think this is a particularly great installment of the
gram Right musical journey. And the fact that you did
it with these guys who are each so spectacularly talented
is just I mean, it is the kind of Christmas

(02:02):
album I always wanted, didn't really know I needed, although
I did know you were making this, and I'd love
to hear you sort of take us through the long
and winding road towards release of Hype the Holidays.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well, I started writing Christmas music for Girlfriend Material twenty seventeen,
twenty eighteen, when the band was pretty new, and I
have always had a real sentimental attachment to the Christmas
season and to the traditions. You know, Tokyo Police Club
years ago did a couple of Christmas themed shows in Toronto,

(02:40):
the first one of which you came to town for,
and we had snow machines inside and we wore sweaters
and we covered Christmas music and stuff and it was
really special and beautiful, and I and Josh as well
were really keen to sort of turn it into an
annual event, but Tokyo was also like a professionally operating
band with other tours, and we had to promote stuff,
and locking a hometown show in December every year can

(03:04):
get in the way of those things, and so it
ended up not turning into a tradition. But my love
of that tradition never left me. And when Girlfriend material
got going, I thought, oh my god, we'll make a
little Christmas EP every year. And I sat in this
very chair in my studio and home recorded for three
years in a row, home recorded some Christmas music, and

(03:26):
that's where the songs on this record were written. And
they were initially released with like canned home studio drums
and entire amp simulator, like totally headphone created music, which
was fine, but you know, didn't really make a big
splash in the world of Christmas music. I thought that
it was a really original idea to make Christmas music

(03:47):
for an indie rock band, And as we have come
up on the release of this album, I.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Have become more and more aware that it's not an
original idea at all.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
And everyone thinks it's a brilliant moneymaker to put out
Christmas music. But the thing is, I feel like almost
all the Christmas music I see, almost like all the
ugly Christmas sweater merch, is kind of like glib and
winking yeah and self aware and sort of like honestly
kind of contemptuous, of like the corniness of the idea

(04:19):
of putting out earnest Christmas music, which is fair enough,
because there's a lot of crappy, earnest Christmas music over
many years. But I love Wonderful Christmas Time by Paul McCartney,
and I love simply having a wonderful Christmas Time at Christmas.
And the girl from Material songs are not tongue in
cheek and they're not glib, they're really they're more earnest

(04:39):
than I even think I intended to make them. And
there was moments putting this together when I was kind
of embarrassed by how hard on sleeve they are, But
of course I think that at Christmas that is the
only way to be and it's the only good way
to make music anyway. So anyway, suffice it to say,
we finally got the actual band together in the student

(05:00):
and we cut all these songs live off the floor,
and so it's the best sounding girl for material music period.
It's one of my favorite musical projects I've ever been
part of. And there's like jingle bells jingling on every
festive track, So really, what's not to like?

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, two things I love about it are the fact
that you get to start this tradition of having Christmas
shows the way you always intended. Like my probably single
favorite piece of Tokyo Police Club merch that I own
is the ugly Christmas sweater poster from that first So
I hope that you can find a way to either
find that artist again and have that person make a

(05:38):
variant of it for these moving forward, or find something
similar that becomes as iconic in my mind. And then two,
the thing that I love is that everyone can share
in this experience, regardless of where they are in the world,
because you made very smartly a fireplace video on YouTube
which alert. I will put in the link to this

(06:01):
video right at the top of a bunch.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Of links that are going to be in here.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
But you can stream it and listen to it on
all the services. Hopefully one day there will be a nice,
you know, peppermint colored vinyl release of it.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
I thought you were going to say, like a Blu
ray release.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Blue right means next year that and I mean maybe
you can have them packaged together like a deluxe box set.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
I wish that I could come. You're playing a show
right when.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You Yeah, well, we were taping this in advance slightly.
So what day does this episode go out? Do you
have the sorry pop quiz producer net calendar.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I can look it up right now.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
It is coming out on the day of next week,
which is Wednesday, the seventeenth of December.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Okay, yes, So if you're in Toronto and you're listening
to this before the eighteenth, I have a show in
the evening of the eighteenth at Dina's in Toronto, which
you to be the Silver Dollar, which is an amazing there.
It's like this classic Toronto venue that was around for
years and years where Tokyo played some great early shows
and then it got demolished and replaced with a condo.

(07:12):
But part of the deal was the condo people had
to rebuild the venue to spec and so there's an
identical copy of the Silver Dollar newly built in the
same location. It's called Dina's now and that's where the
Christmas show will be happening. It's pay what you can
and all the proceeds go to a good cause. So
come on out if you haven't missed your opportunity already.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
Well, I wish I could be there. Yeah, me too.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Hopefully every year I slash the band will build a tradition,
and you know, I really want to try and make
this one stick and not just fizzle out after three years.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
Next year to get me there. You hear that, Toronto,
I'm coming for you. Look out.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
And then, also, you know, the point of this podcast
other than the shameless promotion of an excellent record made
by Graham and Josh and the entire Girlfriend Material apparatus. Those,
I mean, the other two guys in that band are
ridiculous rippers, like both incredible and I mean all four
of you all together. I hope that there's also future

(08:15):
Girlfriend Material releases that are non Christmas related. Because I
love the records you've made before this, so we're thinking
Easter next.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
I like that. Although that's my holiday, so back off.
That's right. Well, you can fly us in, that's right.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
Come in play a Although I know that Josh would
not want to perform on Easter because he is too
busy eating pizza with me.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
I respect that greatly, all right. Also, like part of
this episode, the second half our tradition, the MLD holiday tradition.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
Is to promote releases recent material from all of the
incredible artists who were so thankful came on the show
this year. And I'm just going to rattle off like
an incredible list of awesome gift ideas for you. And
it's going to start with a spoiler, which is actually

(09:04):
not a spoiler. By the time you consume this episode,
Dan will have already appeared. Yes, but Dan Mangan, the
incredible Canadian artist, has a great new record called Natural Light.
There'll be links in the description of everything. I'll post
all this stuff on social but there'll be a link
to that. Go listen to it, buy a copy, stream it.

(09:28):
However you consume music, please consume it. Also, we just
had a great episode with Keith Murray from We Are Scientists.
There's a twentieth anniversary reissue of their landmark major label
debut with Love and Squalor that you can get from
their website. Chris Damy from the DBS.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Was on the show.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
He has an awesome new record called Anything as Possible
that is also in there. And Morgan Nagler, who is
producing music like no one else I know, has a
great new single from the Share called The Pain, which
I've seen her perform twice and both times I got
the feels and felt overwhelmed by it. It's such a
gorgeous song. And then finally before I hand this off

(10:08):
to Graham to do what I'm doing, I'll say, mister
Dave Alvin of the Blasters and the Third Mind and
this is the X and all these great bands that
he's been in and as a solo touring musician, has
a bunch of new stuff out right now. He has
a new album with a Third Mind called Right Now.
And then also he has a first vinyl pressing of

(10:30):
this really really wonderful Merle Haggard tribute album called Tulayer Dust,
and that'll be in there too.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
And per Dave Alvin's advice if you have any aspiring
musicians in your life and you're able to track down
a particular eighties issue of Playboy magazine. It features the
interview with John Lennon that Dave Alvin recommends as sort
of like a one stop songwriting school from the Masters.
So you know, like you're a twelve year old nephew
who just got into music, get him a vintage Playboy

(10:58):
Just Got It to Music called Reading It for the
articles kids have to Learn. We talked to Monique Powell
from Save Ferris on this show this year, amazing episode.
They have a new single out called Get Dancing, and
they've been releasing new music sort of like a song
at a time every few months. So keep an eye
on that. I bet they'll have like a record or

(11:19):
a seven inch collection or something to sell. Nell's Clein,
the great guitarist Nell's Clin has a new album called
Concentric Quartet, which is amazing, and his major label debut, Lovers.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Is still available as well.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
If you have any jazz fans or fans of like
the best guitar player maybe on Earth, love in your
family or friend group.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Nell's Klein.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Great gift the Museum of Home Video, run by partially
by our friend Brett Berg, who we did the Doors
movie edit with, which was an incredible, feverish episode of
major label debut that I remember more like a dream
than a memory, but so much the better for it.
Museum of Home Video has Patreon, and I think that,

(12:02):
like subscriptions and Patreons can be a great gift because
it gives someone something they can access all year long,
and it like literally keeps an amazing project like the
Museum of Home Video going for another year.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Which you know, is a good deed.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
A couple of books to mention, Alan Siegel's book Stupid
TV be more funny an oral history, It's not quite
an oral history, a very thoroughly researched history with a
lot of interviews and other incredible facts, trivia and context
about the history of America's favorite family, the Simpsons, who
themselves debuted with a Christmas themed episode longer ago than

(12:42):
I've been alive. That book is available and really well
worth reading, as is Tearing Down the Orange Curtain by
Nate Jackson and Daniel Cohen, which is sort of a
history of OC punk, which, as I learned when I
read the book birthed a staggering umber of bands who
went on to great fame, acclaim, notoriety, and you know,

(13:05):
to change the world of music altogether. And before I
throw it back to John Paul, I will mention our
good friend Brendan Burke, who as a publicist. I guess
you could buy your friends like a month of Brendan's
services as a publicist.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
That'd be far too expensive. Or you are very rich.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
If you work for like a publication, you could put
his acts on the front page.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
That would be a gift to him from me.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Or you could pick up some of the acts that
he's working with lately, like Big Special who are from Birmingham, England,
or Moon Panda from San Diego. They both have great
music out That would make a wonderful gift for the
music lover on your list, John Paul.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
We've got a thirtieth anniversary reissue of Green Day's Dookie
that was produced by Major leberl debut guest Rob Cavallo.
Come on, buy another copy of Dookie. You need it
to help them get to what is I don't know
what is it when you sell thirty million.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Diamond I think criple Diamonds, Crimple Diamond, thriller level.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
It's just help Rob buy a summer home. I don't
know what's going on in his life, but yeah, just
help all those people.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Great Day needs your help. Green They needs your help.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And for that eleven year old nephew, you know, like
a beautiful Vinyl Dookie reissue is the perfect thing to
slide the inside so the pants.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
See, Yeah, we have Guster's Ryan Miller, who I'm almost
positive Ryan, if you're listening to this, I saw you
in Silver Lake and you were wearing spectacular pants. I'm
not sure if this is true or not, but I
was like, is that Ryan Miller? The pants makes me
think it's true he has cool pants. Yeah, I mean
he's a cool guy and like he has spectacular style.

(14:49):
That there's some of these words spectacular in this podcast.
They have a twenty twenty four album called Ooh La
Lah that you should already be familiar with, but if
you're not, check it out. Also, they're relentlessly because they're awesome. Ryan,
thank you for being on the podcast in two episodes,
and thank you for being awesome and making great music.

Speaker 1 (15:08):
I have to open TikTok to caption all of the
video clips we make because it's the easiest way to
capture videos that I've found, and we follow on the
mld TikTok account. We follow Guster, so whenever I open TikTok,
I see what's going on with Guster, And I got
to say, they have a great TikTok account. Yeah, I
really understand it. Their social media game is strong and

(15:29):
like real. It's like authentic to a band of their age.
It doesn't feel weird or forced or embarrassing. It's just
like really solid interesting stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
And but finally, before I throw this back to Graham,
I'd like to promote everything speaking of strong social media
games by American hero Lisa Fancher, who is the founder
of Frontier Records. Just a all around great follow across
all the platforms. But go buy every single hour and
she's ever put out. They're all good, every single one.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
We had the legend Richard Barone from the Bongos on
the show, and the Bongos right around when we had
Richard on put out a live album of them playing
live in nineteen eighty five. It's called The Shroud of Touring,
which I eventually figured out like the Shroud of Turin,
which is also Christmas related.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, christ that's right.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
So that's available on you know, wherever music is attainable.
And also Richard has a book and if you look
him up online, he is constantly moving, shaking, working playing
various gigs in and around New York. He is seems
to be like a genuinely tireless musician and like celebrator
and scholar of music and everything he does is really

(16:43):
interesting and cool.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Just at a cool tour with a pylon re enactment society.
I mean, he's like everybody loves Richard and he is
another person who has a strong social media game, good
to follow across all platforms.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Greg Allsop, this is a spoiler Greg of Tokyo pl
Club and of the major label debut theme song and
of my Heart and of our Hearts Deep in Them.
Greg was on the show in the spring and we
had an amazing conversation about it was supposed to be
about making music for podcasts and television shows and instead
we just unpacked our feelings about the Tokyo Police Club

(17:17):
farewell tour and subsequent retirement. That episode is going to
re air in an Encore presentation next week, I believe
on Christmas Eve. So if you're traveling or not traveling
and just looking for something to listen to while you'd
stare out the window morosely, that is a great episode.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Lots of feelings in that one.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
We should make Greg put up the theme song to
the show on all the platforms because it's such an
incredible piece of music that he made for us, because
he's kind and smart and wanted to support us, and
I can't thank him enough for it.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
And he is the he is the soundtrack to major
label debut.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
Absolutely, and he's in a group called Delta Underground and
they have a new single that came out earlier this
year called I Won't Give You Up, which you can
listen to and probably purchase in you know, however tracks
are purchased, it changes so often, but you can get them.
You can throw Greg ninety nine cents for a song.
I bet he'll He'll figure out a way to get
it to you. Bob Lee, drummer of one million bands approximately,

(18:23):
was on the show to talk all about that. That
was a great conversation. Bob was so cool and his
band astral Jets. He was on to talk about his
band claw Hammer. Like I said, he's in a lot
of bands, but astrol Jets is the new one, and
they have an album out that you can purchase, stream,
listen to and enjoy and gift. Perhaps most importantly.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Josh and I went to see them, Oh yeah, yeah,
and they were fantastic play with Mike Watt and a
bunch of other cool people, and they rip and the
drums were particularly a great part.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Of that one.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Before I hand it back to you, I will say
that one of my favorite episodes we did all year
was our conversation with Bob barry Hill of the Surfaris.
The Surfaris wrote Wipeout, which, as I said at the
time of the episode, is a song that it kind
of shocked me to realize was written rather than just
sort of like has been emanating from the heart of

(19:16):
the earth since time immemorial. Bob started, He got into
making rock and roll music with electric guitars before the
Beatles came out, and talking to Bob was like getting
messages from a world that I just can't even conceive of.
He is funny, wise and thoroughly experienced. And there's a
sixtieth anniversary pressing of Wipeout, and I think that everyone

(19:40):
needs to know that song and own that song, you know,
at any time of year.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Yeah, And I think it's I think it's like becomical.
I think it's hard to find. Sold out already and
hard to find. Rob Darhak from Moe was on. That
was a big deal for me. Rob's band was continues
to relentlessly continues to be totally great. They have an
excellent album from this year called Circle of Giants.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Go listen to it, go see them live.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
They're out there doing it over and over and over
again and making cool, weird music that will inspire you
and get you happy. Also another prolific couple of people,
Colin and Malca from Well from Immersion and Swim Records,
and Colin was in I mean Wire and malcol was

(20:30):
in minimal compact that They have a new immersion album
called WTF question Mark question Mark that is so good.
All the immersion output that they've done is so good.
But it is a rabbit hole. Go down that hole,
get all those records, get deep into it, going back
to the seventies, to Wire into the eighties through Malcus

(20:53):
bands and just buy them all. Listen to them all.
They have podcasts, they are like playing shows, touring all
over England, the UK and Europe. They just the two
of them are a genuine inspiration. And also like to
watch a married couple make music in this way together
for such a long period of time and have the

(21:14):
output be so consistently great, and for them also to
do it in such a honorable, not corny way. It
is real inspiration. If you're in the need for everyone
needs it, so just do that. Also, if you're looking
to buy a home in the Toronto area, might I
suggest realtor and Watchmen Sammy Cohne.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Sammy Cohne, great episode. I was thinking of Sammy the
other night. I was walking down Church Street here in
Toronto and I passed a hotel I think it's called
like the town In or whatever. And I used to
live like two blocks south of it, and I would
always see flight attendants would stay there. And this was
when I was in my early twenties, so I'd be
coming and going at all hours and I'd always see
flight attendants. In researching the interview with Sammy that we

(22:02):
did this year, I found that that was where the Watchmen,
who are a Winnipeg band whenever they came to Toronto,
they would stay at that hotel. And so I have
on my phone a number of selfies of me in
front of it. I took to send to Sammy, but
they were really bad, and it was cold out and
I've been walking for a while, so I looked my
face looks bad, and then I realized I was standing
at like a major intersection.

Speaker 4 (22:22):
And everyone was looking at me out of their cars
while I took my selfies. So I didn't send any
to Sammy because I didn't like how I looked at them.
So that's just a little Christmas gift to me. And
whoever's from the FBI is monitoring.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Oh, vash D Bunyan, that the great vash D Bunyan,
who I was just citing to someone as an example
of how shocked I am when some people say, sure,
I'll be on your podcast, Graham, Right, it's like that
vash D Bunyan. I remember when she said she would
come on the show. We were all sort of briefly
struck dumb, and it's a wonderful episode. Her album Just

(22:54):
Another Diamond Day is beloved for great reason, but she
has two other records, including one called look Aftering, which
just got a twentieth anniversary beautiful reissue this year, and
it's like a total different side of Vashti and it really,
for me at least, recontextualized her whole musical identity. And
you know, it's just a beautiful it's a beautiful object

(23:16):
and it's a beautiful.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Selection of music as well, And I think it would
be a really beautiful gift. I agree wholeheartedly. Get it
right now. Also, we had Ned Brower of Rooney and
also The Pit. They giant smash hit HBO Max show
The Pit and Ned is still making tons of music
with lots of cool people. But if you want to

(23:40):
see Ned, I suggest that you stream The Pit like
it is.

Speaker 3 (23:44):
It's going to win a bunch of awards. I think
it's already won some.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
But it.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Is a kind of a beautiful throwback to television from
a different era. It features a star from television from
a different era, and it features Ned also a star
also one of the guests on this show.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
We are so grateful that he was there.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Also, Ned's career path from Rooney drummer to paramedic and
then because he was a paramedic, he got hired to
do like consulting for the pit, and then that turned
into a job acting on the pit.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
So Ned is just killing it, I mean NonStop.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And finally, the first guest of this year that we
had was Soul Asylum's Dave Perner, which I mean, we
have been so fortunate with all the people that were
on this show this year. I mean just banger after
banger after banger after banger, and Dave Perner is no
exception to that.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The Soul Asylum has a new album.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
That came out this year that's called Slowly but Surely
the name Surely it's great, as is all the classic
Soul Asylum, Like you know, the guy's been doing it forever,
part of a bunch of different scenes, part of a
bunch of different eras of music, and he was so
kind to give his time to do this, and I

(25:06):
the record rips. Go check it out, go see them
on tour. He's another guy who's like touring, touring, touring,
never stops touring, and I'm very thankful for that that
you get a chance to see him. I saw him
i think two years ago at mccabes, a really cool
guitar store in Santa Monica, shot at mccabes and where
they have a small venue in the back, and he
did an acoustic set where he played a bunch of

(25:28):
soul Asylum hits and then other stuff that was more
deep cuts. It was everything I wanted, and I think
that if you go see that band, you go see
day Perner, He's going to give you everything you want
and more. So, please support all these artists. We're so
thankful that they came on our show. I more than

(25:51):
anything want you to stare into the burning flames of
the girlfriend material yule Log fireplace video and you may
see God.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
You may have a.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Genuine religious experience, which I think is the purpose of
Ernest Christmas Music right is to bring you closer to
the Holy I.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
Believe that's correct.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, And we do have a few fast paced versions
of Christmas hymns on there, so for God, shout out God,
shout out the Christ Child and.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
The Virgin Mary. There you go, this one's for you.
I will have links to all this stuff down below.
Wherever you're listening to this or watching this. Please support
these artists. They gave their time and art to.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Us, and to tell their stories is such an incredible gift.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
So I feel very thankful of that.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
I'm also very thankful for you, Graham right, and for
the beautiful Josh Hook, and for the beautiful Greg Alsop
who gave his awesome theme song to us. Thank you
all for listening to this, Thank you for being supportive.
We've had an incredible year and we have so much
good stuff coming. We've already recorded a bunch of episodes
for next year. Yeah, it's amazing to me how many

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people have stopped me and told me that they've been
listening and that they have enjoyed interviews with all these folks.
And I am so happy Abibley to keep doing this
and we've got a lot more coming your way.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
Thank you so much for listening, John Paul, thank you
for potting and producing all this year. John Paulblic producer
of the show, and Josh Hook, also producer of the show.
We love you, Josh, Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, bud Hi,
Josh and Greg Alsop mentioned repeatedly, but one more time again.
Now listen to the encore presentation of my conversation with
Greg it Rocks. And obviously, if anyone in that gift

(27:47):
guide you said to yourself, oh my God, I didn't
know that Colin Newman was on Major Label Debut. We'll
just scroll back in the feed, my good friend, it's
all there, a gift for you from us. That's your
MLD news for this week, but Major Label Debut will
return with more tales from the intersection of art and Christmas.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
So long, Happy holidays, Happy Holidays,