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From the major label debut podcast network. This is MLD News.
My name is Graham, right, Today's news. We're going right
over to the arts and culture desk, which is also
staffed by me, Graham Right. That's right, it's another monologue episode.
I'm here behind the microphone by myself. I'm just going
to try and keep it on the rails because it's
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time for a new feature on MLD news, maybe a
one time feature. It's Graham's concert review. I went to
see Oasis last night on their big reunion tour and
will any concert kind of exists at the intersection of
art and commerce where we make our bones here, a
twenty twenty five high profile reunion tour is a particularly
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interesting moment of arts and culture intersecting. Obviously, Oasis is
a band whose art is what we care about. It's
the songs, right yes. The antics and the narrative soap
opera stylings of the Gallagher brothers personal relationship back in
the day was very compelling. It was a great hook.
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Their feuds with Blur and other bands was you know,
they were always good, reliable sources of you know, outrageous
quotes and there was always a good story to tell
about what Oasis was up to or how they were
fighting this week. But if Wonderwall wasn't Wonderwall, if Live
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Forever wasn't Lived Forever, none of that would be interesting.
And Oasis are, you know, they're a real band. They're
a working class band. They are guys that came from
a not particularly privileged background who used rock and roll
as a ladder to climb to fame and fortune. I mean,
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it is the old classic narrative of living the rock
can roll dream. And that's something that obviously never existed
for most people, and it really doesn't exist for people now.
But it's of great interest to me because I kind
of grew up at like the last gasp of that,
and so I'm forever obsessed with looking at it and
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considering it and analyzing it. And Oasis, you know, burned out,
and the story and the narrative and the acrimony both
internally and externally ended up eating the art. And you
know that that happens a lot of times. Bands break up,
sometimes happily, sometimes not so happily. That becomes part of
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their story, right, And the fact that Oasis, which was
always like this combustible mixture of these two brothers. The
fact that it finally just it couldn't hold and it
exploded was perfect. It had to end that way, and
by ending that way, it really cemented their legacy. I
think even if you know, prior to this reunion, they
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weren't necesscessarily the most talked about or most praised band.
I certainly found in my social circles anywhere that I looked,
they were more overlooked than anything. You know, people remembered Oasis,
the songs were still on the radio, the music was indelible,
and everyone has always known that. But when I was
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telling people that I think Wonderwall is actually great and
it's not just a funny meme three years ago, I
really felt like I was kind of on my own
out there with it, and it didn't seem like it
was a very popular position to give a shit about
Oasis one way or the other. I always thought that
was a shame. But let me tell you, they're making
up for it now, and judging by the sheer teeming
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mass of humanity I saw at the concert in Toronto
last night, lots of people like Oasis, and I think
I was maybe wrong about them being overlooked. They just
weren't on the tip of anyone's tongue. Maybe it's just
a simple fact that, like, they didn't break up that
long ago in the grand scheme of things, so there
hasn't been enough time for people to really let them
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have like a legend that grows rather than a still
kind of current recent event. And of course, you know,
the last couple records were not as widely beloved as
the first couple of records, let's say, and that it
takes some time to recover from as well. But last
night what I saw was Oasis. I texted someone after
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the show and I said, there's still Oasis, and I
want to unpack what that means a bit, because to
me that felt pretty impressive. Oasis is a band that
came out of the nineties. They came out of a
music business, out of a popular culture, out of a
general culture that, needless to say, no longer exists. And
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in the case of the music business and rock and
roll in general, it feels like Oasis might as well
be from one hundred years ago, considering how different the
primordial ooze they were born out of was than what
the music culture bands are growing out of now. Is
like it's just so different, and a lot of the
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things that made Oasis great and made Oasis humongous are
not as in demand now. Certainly, you know, kick ass,
anthemic stadium rock music is not as popular or as
mainstream as it once was. Being opinionated and mean and
talking shit all the time about people in interviews is
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not as popular as it used to be, and it
comes with a lot of risk to your career now
if you're not careful about how you open your big mouth.
I saw the Blank one eighty two reunion tour last
year the year before, and it was amazing. It was
a great show. I love Blank, I'm so happy to
see those three guys back together up there getting paid.
But I really couldn't shake the feeling that they were
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not going to screw it up. The performance was amazing,
It was slick, it was dialed in. They've never sounded better.
The banter was classic blankle to is juvenile and silly,
but it never really got anywhere near a line that
might like offend or upset anyone, because I think they
all just basically understand tacitly that it's too big. You
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can make so much fucking money now, going on a
big reunion tour. It's really hard if you're an indie band.
It's really hard to be a new band out there
right now. But it's never been a better time to
be an in demand legacy act because people will pay
huge amounts for concert tickets, they'll pay huge amounts for merch.
Companies like Live Nation and others are just signing enormous
checks because they own a bunch of venues, so they're
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getting bar tab money as well for their corporation, which
means they can pay more money to the bands to
come in and bring drinkers, particularly Oasis concerts, where I
think more beer is getting consumed than maybe the entire
rest of the live music industry put together right now.
And I was really curious to see on the Oasis
reunion how professional it was going to be. I was
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curious to see if it would be pelpl they were
on their best behavior, that they were making sure to
keep it going. Just something as simple as, you know,
how much will Noel and Liam interact? You know, the
last thing anyone wants is for those guys to have
another falling out and the wheels to fall off the train,
and all those hundreds of millions of dollars to go unearned,
and it didn't feel like that at all. It felt
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like they haven't missed a beat. It didn't feel like
a throwback. It didn't feel like, let's all pretend it's
nineteen ninety six again. For one night, it felt like
we were in twenty twenty five. It felt like Oasis
was in twenty twenty five and they were up there
playing the songs, not a lot of bells and whistles.
They had the biggest video wall I've ever seen in
my entire life. I didn't know that a video wall
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at a rock concert could be that big and that
high definition, but by gum, Oasis has got the latest
cutting edge video technology. But other than that, it was
like six of them now standing in their spot of
the stage, playing their instrument, singing the song and just
taking for granted that that is enough, and when you're Oasis,
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it is enough, and the fact that they know it's
enough also broadcasts out of this stage. This is the
kind of like gig science magic that people like me
who have gigged for a living love to think about
and trying. It's really hard to describe it. Sometimes it's
really hard to put your finger on it. Sometimes there's
a lot of intangible elements of it. Aura, you know.
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I think aura is the word that the kids use
now for for what it means to be Liam Gallagher
and to stand there stock still, hands clasped behind your back,
singing supersonic and being more magnetic and exuding more charisma
than someone like me, who is sweating buckets, jumping up
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and down, pulling moves, going out to the crowd, working it,
trying to entertain. And we live in an age of
entertainment on and off stage, and Oasis in the world
of TikTok was not a guarantee. I don't think it
was a sure thing. And if they'd come out of
the gate with Noel and Liam, you know, yucking it
up on social media or doing the Hot Wings challenge
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or whatever else, I think that would have hurt the aura.
They don't do any of that stuff because they're Oasis
and they don't have to do it, and they know
they don't have to and so they don't. Just that
is such a beautiful thing to see. I don't want
to see Liam Gallagher riding around in a car with
James Corden lip syncing that's stupid. But Liam Gallagher on
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stage doing the Oasis thing is transcendent, and the show
was transcendent. You could feel it in this enormous, vibe
less parking lot in the middle of nowhere outside Toronto.
I mean, this is not an environment that's conducive for
any kind of meaningful experience, and yet everyone there seemed
to be having at least a meaningful experience, if not
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a really experience the normal review stuff, who cares. The
set list is amazing, it's wall to wall hits. The
sound was great, especially again considering we were in a giant,
empty parking lot with like wind blowing from three different
directions in the middle of nowhere. Sounded crystal clear. The
band is maybe tighter than they've ever been. I once,
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you know, went out with a few friends in Philadelphia,
and when we got back to the place we were
staying at two in the morning, we decided what we
should do is watch a performance of Live Forever by
Oasis from every year of their career. So like, google
Oasis Live Forever Live nineteen ninety and watch that ninety one,
ninety two, et cetera, et cetera, all the way to
two thousand and nine, or whenever they broke up the
first time. One of the things I got from that
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extremely fun and interesting and rewarding experience was the notion
that Oasis as a live band was maybe not always
ten out of ten, not always completely dialed in. It's
it's really hard, especially at that scale, to be great live.
It's a mixture of you gotta be tight, you gotta
be professional and player instruments well, but you also got
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to be compelling and have energy. And Oasis rarely had
the problem that they weren't compelling, but sometimes it felt like, oh,
it's a little too much energy. Oh no, now it's
not enough energy, and Liam's not there or whatever the
case is. It's not like that now. It doesn't sound phony,
it doesn't sound like it's all on backing tracks. In fact,
it sounds like they don't use backing tracks at all.
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It sounds gloriously like guitar players and a drummer playing
great rock songs and they're really good at playing them,
and they know they're good, and they're having fun being
that good, and everyone's having a great time hearing it.
I just loved it. It's hard to put on a show.
Of that magnitude. But then again you get the sense
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that Oasis was designed to put on shows of that magnitude,
and it's actually kind of harder to picture them in
a small club ever, although they must have started somewhere.
It felt like a miracle to me, maybe a lowercase
m miracle, but nevertheless, for Oasis to be back at all,
and then for Oasis to be as good as they are,
and for it to feel as real as it did.
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And yes, we were surrounded by commerce. This is not
a charity endeavor. The tickets were damned expensive, the drinks
were damned expensive. The merchandise was not cheap, but people
were so happily buying it, lining up for it, wearing
their you know, exclusive Toronto Oasis tour ties, which I
did genuinely think were super cool. Everyone there just seemed
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like they were feeling the specialness of it. There was
a good, buoyant mood in the air, and that's a
lot of people again in a big, huge parking lot
that's a pain in the ass to get to. The
vibes could have been bad. You know that Woodstock ninety
nine like negative energy in the air. This was the
kind of venue that engenders that kind of naturally. It
sucks to go to the bathroom, it's annoying to go
get a drink, and yet everyone was cheerful, smiling, beaming.
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They did two nights in Toronto. I went to the
second one. The first night, it started raining halfway through
the show, and I'm kind of glad I wasn't there
because I hate standing around wet. But I have to
imagine being at the first North American Oasis reunion show
and it starts to rain must have been a truly
transcendent experience and one that I would have loved to
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have had. However, I'm not complaining. It was a beautiful night.
I'm so glad that Oasis are back. I'm so glad
that everyone is just loud and proud about loving Oasis now.
And it was just really cool to go to it,
and I was. I left it just feeling really optimistic,
and you know, I kind of thought, oh, I'll do
this review and I'll be able to talk all about
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all the monetization and the commerce of the thing. And
like I said, that was there, but it just was
like in the background. And it is hilarious now that
there's like taco trucks and stuff at rock concerts, and
you can go see Oasis and like eat a Hamburger
while you do it. Esthetically speaking, that's not my preference.
But again, this place is so huge, and this is
so bright and loud and magnetic, all of that stuff
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just disappears into the background and what you're left with
is Wonderwall, sung by forty thousand people in a beautiful
moment where everyone's there for the same purpose, looking at
the same thing, listening to the same thing, loving music. Music. Again,
that was made by real, honest to god people, people
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who dreamed of making a band, and seemingly, through sheer
force of will, became one of the greatest, biggest, and
maybe most important rock bands ever to do it. It
just rules. I would love to talk more about Oasis
on this podcast at some point. That's another band. Maybe
I'll find a guest and do like an album rankings episode.
But in the meantime, I'll just say this. I'll leave
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you with this observation I had as I had long
sort of felt like a bit of an iconoclast for
thinking Oasis was amazing even in the wilderness years. I'd
also long felt like the bucket hat should make us
artorial come back. I thought they were really cool when
they were in fashion the first time, when I was seven,
and I was ready to see them again. I thought,
you know, the bucket hat got a bad rap for
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a while there, and it's time to see them on
some heads again. Having now seen like twenty thousand bucket
hats on twenty thousand heads at last night last Night's
Oasis show, I have altered my opinion to say that
I don't actually think most people look good in bucket hats,
especially if you're over the age of like twenty three.
So I am sadly but with confidence, giving up my
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search for the perfect bucket hat. If you look good
in a bucket hat, keep wearing it. Oasis does sell
them as merch and I bet they sold a ton
and that's the kind of art based commerce that we
are here to celebrate today. We're celebrating it. So that's
your MLD news for the week. Graham says, Oasis. We
like them, and if you get a chance to go,
there's more dates on this tour still. They're going to
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the States next. If you can get the money together
to do it, it's really worth it, you know. It
can be a bit of a slog out to wherever
the venue is, but it's Oasis man, and they're still
doing it. They're still Oasis. Thanks so much for listening
to my opinions about them and their concert. Thanks for
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