E133: Time Cut (2024) | Spoiler Review & Discussion - Make Every Death Count

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Speaker 1 (00:39):
What's happening? Love is what's going on. We're gonna get tropical.
We're gonna get tropical. Welcome back to another episode of
Make Every Death Count, brought to you mind the slash
Cast podcast network where your host's my name is Riley,
my name is Nick. Here with a special special episode today,
they come Back, The Comeback. Maybe the most special episodpisode

(01:00):
ever ever.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Definitely the most special episode of the year so far. Yeah,
because it's the first episode twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
We made it. Wows. It was a long road to
get here. Yeah, yeah, we already. We talked about our
New Year's resolutions on our Slasher Society summit that went
out to members. I didn't think of another one after
the fact, and then I forgot what it was. Oh,
I could have said it here, but already if your
other resolution was so, I guess forget about it. Yeah,

(01:33):
oh I remember. Oh well, one of my resolutions is
to read more. My goal was to read. My goal
was to read at least one book a month. That's
not that much, but it's twelve more than I would
have got last year. That's not true. I read one
book last year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
I didn't watch shit for movies last year. This year
i'm at two, one of them being this movie that
we're gonna talk about to day. But right now i'm
at two. It's pretty good, not bad. I want to
I want to get like six a week.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's a lot. I got two already in one day,
two and one day. What was the other one you watched?
Jason Babon carry On? Oh, carry On, Yeah, which I liked.
I like. You know that that movie's on track to
be like one of the most viewed I think, well,
it already is like one of in the top three
most viewed Netflix films. Yeah yeah, next to bird Box,

(02:34):
which that movie was overrated too, So I guess it
makes sense.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
I like heist type movies. I mean, people do like
the Oceans movies.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
People love those.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
I love those so having having that little action thriller
kind of going on.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I like it. It was a I liked it. I
watched it at like five am when I when Kane
couldn't sleep one day, so yeah, it was okay. I
like fun. Illogical, Yeah, illogical. It kind of reminds me
a little bit of Trap actually, because it's like, you're

(03:07):
the what we're doing here? Fun but none of this
makes any sense. I haven't seen Trap yet. I don't
recommend it. I don't particularly recommend it other than if
you want to just get a good look at Josh
Hardnet for a couple hours, which he is at one
point is shirtless, so that's a big win. And I
haven't watched it yet. Yep, you're missing out. You're missing out.

(03:28):
But yeah, today we're talking about a Netflix movie that
came out October called Time Cuts. This was kind of
like their Halloween special this year somehow came out in
October thirtieth, and it's basically it's Back to the Future
meets Scream. So it's basically totally Killer, but not as
good as Totally Killer.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
They Yeah, this movie was actually in development before Totally Killer.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well you should have got it out first, so you
didn't look as bad because yeah, it's uh not only
to come out after totally kill her, but it didn't
deliver nearly as well as totally killer. Maybe maybe we
don't know that, huh, but yeah, I just brief synopsis.
High school student accidentally travels back to two thousand and

(04:16):
three and a scientist stop the serial killer who murdered
her sister. Yeah, it's a out of all the time
travel movies, I mean only goes back twenty one years.
Twenty one years, so it's not that different, Like two
thousand and two thousand and three, two thousand and three
to now is not that different like it is, and

(04:41):
it's noticeable, Uh you know why things like if you
were to do I don't know because I guess, Uh,
I guess. I mean we've changed a lot culturally, I suppose,
and but like wardrobe is different music, you know, but
if you go walk into a school from two thousand

(05:01):
and three, it's not that different from today other than phones.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
The soundtrack they went on in the soundtrack was bumping.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Vanessa Carleton, Yeah, that's teenage started with Vanessa Carlton as
just like just a reminder of what we're doing here. Yeah,
it's like, Okay, I'm going to do it.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
But this film is directed by Hannah McPherson. I think
that's how you say her name. Not a lot of
great directing credits up to this point, at least in
terms of film, but she has done several episodes of
television series that stand outs, like she did an episode
of Into the Dark. She did two episodes of School Spirits,

(05:46):
the last two of season one, last two episode Season one,
which I do. I really like that show me too,
so not bad. That's about it that that you of
at least. However, this movie is not a directing fail
in my opinion. I think where it's a mess is

(06:09):
the writing, and it's not even really the whole movie,
because this movie's written by Michael Kennedy, who you're going
to figure out very quickly has a type. Yep, he's
got a type of movie that he likes to make,
so he's he wrote he co wrote with Christopher Land
and Freaky Yep, he wrote It's a Wonderful Knife, and

(06:31):
then he did time cut, so he's into this. And
then Bordertown, I've ever seen Bordertown. He was a staff
writer on Bordertown, but he's really into this time travel,
time loop bodies. It's like he is obsessed with the
late nineties and early two thousands, and just that's where

(06:53):
we're staying. I mean, I get it. Same Yeah, Groundhog's Day,
you know, although he didn't up with Happy Death Day,
but right missed opportunity there. Yeah, he would have loved
it and had a great time.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
But then he's writing the Valentine's Day movie that comes
out this year. Yeah, Heart Eyes, Heart Eyes, which we
are going to do an episode on.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Yeah, we're gonna go see it. I only watched like
the first thirty seconds of that trailer because trailers today,
especially on slash movies, and that seem it looks like
who done it? And I'm assuming they just they get
spoiler field so quickly. So I didn't want any the
killers to be ruined for me. But Slasher Valentine's Day,
I was like, okay, cool. It's also was a good sign.
I thought John Squire's ordered it really well. And on

(07:37):
X he was like, we aren't sure that the slasher
crazes back until more holiday themes slashers start making real money. True,
So if now we have a Valentine's Day movie coming out.
If this movie does well, I mean it's back, baby,
let's go. It's back and I'll be there. They'll get
my money. However, Michael Kennedy fol me once, shame on

(08:00):
me forool me twice. Also shame on me. Yeah, I
guess because you have fooled me twice. And then it's
a wonderful knife. Well, here's the thing, time cut is
it has a five out of ten on IMDb, and
it is that's his lowest rating as a writer so far,
and personally that offends me because it's a wonderful knife

(08:24):
is so much worse in this movie. It's so much
worse in this movie. It's a wonderful knife. Ah. Man,
if you haven't seen it, I want to recommend it.
But it was on the cover of Fangoria. Yeah, and
Justin Long's in it, and Justin Long is genuinely the
only redeemable thing in that movie. As he usually is,
it starts off good. It starts off good. This is

(08:45):
what I'm starting to catch a theme with Michael Kennedy.
Starts off good like I'm like, okay, these characters are
little tropy, a little cheesy, but I'm buying in. I'm
buying into what you're doing here, and I'm having a
good time. And then you introduce an ending that he
is either super illogical, super dumb, ruins the entire plot
of the movie, or it's just trash and it's a

(09:09):
wonderful knife. You think the ending that time cut's bad,
it's a wonderful knife has one of the worst endings
I've ever seen in the movie, like, how did we
get here? What are we doing? But it's just in long,
so it's fine. Time cut, Let's talk about it. Let's
just go through this movie a little bit, because we
start in two thousand and three. Okay, we get a

(09:30):
little bit of establishment, a little bit of background on
our friend Quinn, who will will come to know, and
he's trying to give this love letter to Summer, who is,
of course, is the sister that we're following. It's Lucy's
sister ends up being murdered, and that's what we see
that she dies. H We cut to present day and

(09:52):
it's already kind of a weird plot. Idea to me is, okay,
sister died. Now the parents are going to force another
kid out at the older I don't know if they
say how old, but it was enough.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
To do uh if.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah, treatments to.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
So obviously they couldn't conceive at their age. The forty
ish probably be a little older, probably a little older.
So yeah, they're like, Okay, we're gonna force another kid
out here and just to fill this hole that summer
left after she died. And then we're gonna raise her it.

(10:35):
We're gonna be super strict. You know, you can't do this,
can't do that. You always got to be studying, you know.
And then you can't leave. You never go anywhere, can't
leave the town of Sweetly, Minnesota, can't leave Soda.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Yeah, to the to the point where she gets a
NASA internship in Washington, d C. And they're like, oh no,
we'll talk about this later. Yeah, we'll talk about it later.
You could come to me and Sonar, which her dad
works at a company like I don't actually still don't
know what sonar is.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
A nuclear they have they have access to nuclear.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Capabilities. Yeah, basically take back to the future's plutonium. That's
what sonar is. In this movie. You need access to
sonar to get the time machine to work. That's the Platonium,
and conveniently, her father, Lucy and Summer's father works at
Sonar I can get in. Yeah, so that's nice. So yeah,

(11:38):
and he's like, yeah, you can have an internship there.
Forget that NASA one. I don't. I just it feels
a little much. Yeah, did they really? They're really really buzzkills.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I tell you, Like, I obviously have not lost a
very close family member, but I feel like, from what
I normally hear, you don't really like go and not
celebrate but acknowledge their death date. You go to their
grave on their birthday, you know, maybe the anniversary of
the death. I mean you you might, you might.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
I think it's a little weird that they force Lucy
to acknowledge the sister she never met. Yeah, like you
have knowledge, but it's like you always got to bring
your sister that you never met, something like you got
to keep following this tradition. Do you have an offering
for her? Yeah, it's a little I don't know, it's
probably it's probably not as unrealistic as I'm putting it,

(12:33):
but it just seems.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
All a little forced, right. Yeah, And then we also
find out that Summer's middle name was Lucy. Yeah, so
they're just trying again but different.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Just and then is Lucy's Milliam summer maybe probably so yeah,
but uh so, Yeah, they go to where she died.
It's it's it's a little even more weird to visit
the location of the murder. It's different if you're visiting
a grave site, right, I'm kind of a little more

(13:06):
on board, but visiting this location, I don't know, but yeah,
they they're there and randomly Lucy hears a sound coming
from the barn and it's a time machine. She gets
sent back to two thousand and three, and he kind
of kind of learn I don't know, we do kind

(13:27):
of all those stereotypes here of of time travel movies
from this point one where we're gonna go, Okay, she
meets her sister. That's all nice and heartfelt, and she
gets an idea. She's learning about her friends, and you're
gonna get music from two thousand and three. You're gonna

(13:48):
see the clothes and all that. Hillary Duff with Hillary Duff, Yeah,
Rachel loved that when I was watching with her. Yeah,
what else do they do? It was all then do
the teenage dirt bag makes it in there? There's Levine. Yeah,
so they spent their entire budget on the music, and
it worked for me.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
I tell you what you're getting.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
You're getting a whole star bump from me. Yeah, for
the soundtrack. I mean, yeah, it's it's a this thing.
Think about this movie. I thought, like, I'm having fun
at this point. Oh yeah, I'm I'm a sucker for
time travel, time loop who done? It's like that everything

(14:32):
I like in these like in movies. You know, all
my all my my guilty pleasures in film are all
in this movie. So you know, when I'm disappointed by it,
they really fucked up the ending. So we'll get there
in a second. But yeah, So the murders that we've
already heard about, the murder, there was four murders back

(14:54):
in two thousand and three. I forgot all of them
except for Summer. There's Emma or Emmy. There's that one boyfriend,
the one girl, and the one girl. The boyfriend that
rented an American psycho, which I appreciate. Getting killed by
American Psycho DVD is pretty neat. Yeah, fun little concept. Yeah,

(15:19):
so yeah, it was four that got murdered. Originally, as
you know, as Lucy decides, she's gonna try to help.
She tries to intervene with the first kill, ends up
getting a security guard killed too. So now three people
end up getting murdered that night, and it's supposed to
being it's a three day thing here, three day killing spree.

(15:43):
But then after that they like, she has to tell
her sister. She's building a relationship with her sister Lucy
in Summer, and she has to tell Summer about like
how why she knew. She ends up being honest with
her from the future, I'm your sister, And then she
tells or who's going to die next, and that's Emmy,
who we find out Summer has a relationship with Emmy,

(16:07):
and they just they were gonna come out to their parents,
but didn't because Smer got scared.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Which is odd because yeah, they were a little strict
back in two thousand and three, but they were kind
of chill.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Yeah, they're pretty cool, pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Comparative to you know, twenty twenty four, but they.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Were kind of chill like that. I don't know how
much it actually would care.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
I mean, it is yet two thousand and three is
a different Yeah, it's one of those, yeah, right, obviously
it's not like nineteen eighty three, right.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
But still still we're still work in progress. Yeah, still
work in progress. As quoted from the movie. Yeah, so
it Yeah, I get being scared. I think even today
it's scary for sure. So all right, And I thought
it was the line that she has like, oh, you
have an like an obnoxiously handsome husband, and she reacts

(17:03):
to that, and it was like, ah, it's cheeky, good
for them. That's how it was her way of figuring
it should have been deeper in that because she ends
up figuring out she's gay. Like so Lucy figures out
Summer is gay before she brings up the fact by
having a husband, because that could have been her way
of figuring out that she's lying. Right, never marry a man, right,

(17:24):
you know, I don't know, insubordinate, just just trying to
write this for Michael Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
You add a little bit more and what wasn't there?

Speaker 1 (17:34):
But okay, So she ends up telling Summer that she's
frying the future, Emmy's dying. Next they go they save Emmy.
It's like cool, all right, now we have to save
Let's go ahead, save Summer, even though there was the
risk that it would kill Lucy right, which, by the way,
it's obnoxious to me that it took her so long

(17:56):
to put together the fact that she if she saved Summer,
she might die.

Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, yeah, I mean she had to get there being like, Hey,
would you guys ever have any more kids?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
No? Never?

Speaker 2 (18:10):
Yeah, I get so, I guess I understand a little bit.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's I mean, it was so obvious that she was
only born as a result of her sister dying. That's
why there's a twenty year gap between them. So I
just feel like that's the first thing that she should
have thought of, like, oh, if you die, uh, or
if you live, I might never be born. Oh shoot,

(18:33):
what do we do? And then we get to the
big killer reveal to put together this plan to bait
the killer. I went to talk about Quinn this whole time.
The Quinn he was obsessed with Summer wanted to smash,
ends up being good friends with Lucy because Lucy went

(18:57):
to her old teacher and Quinn was there at the time.
She was asking about time travel and he's a physics
nerd and was you know able to help? And they
created a bond as a result, so he's there. He's
actually a pretty cool character. Yeah, for the most part,
they're like, all these characters are relatively likable. Yeah, I

(19:18):
don't know my issue I have this movie. I don't
hate any the characters. It's not like that. It's it's
just it really falls apart at the end. But then
they okay, they trapped the killer, hit him with a car, which,
by the way, that boy's spine should have been broken
when they hit him with that car, absolutely demolished him.
But then it gets revealed that it's Quinn is the killer,

(19:41):
the guy I was just telling you about.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
He's the killer, which, by the way, as soon as
I saw him for the first time in that science room,
I'm like, Okay, he's the killer, right, he's he's gonna
end up being the killer.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
But did you know it was him from the future.
I did not.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
No, I didn't that part I did not think of.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
But yees, Quinn from the future to his present day self. See,
I also knew he's gonna be the killer, and I
knew it was gonna be hear from the future. I
the first time I watched this, the second he said
or that line that the teacher has that's like, oh yeah,
he's kind of like a physics freak or whatever. It is,
like he's like an expert in physics. I was like, there,

(20:23):
he made the fucking time machine. It's like, man, I
wonder who made the time machine because it's the only really,
it's the only suspect, right, because obviously somebody who knew
the murders is the one that built the time machines,
that built in the damn barn.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Well, then of course your red herring is Summer's ex boyfriend.
He's the red herring where you're like, yeah, you know
he had the al he had alibi, so it's fine.
And then you find that note. Eric was his name Eric, Eric,
And so then they find the note that's labeled E.
They're like, see he had to And I'm like, okay,

(21:00):
so he definitely is not killing he's he's.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Your red herring.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, he just he's constantly just looking around corners.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Like the second. The second I read the note as well,
which I assume as is intentional in terms of like
production design. But I could tell right away that either
that's written by a woman, that a girl wrote that note,
or they are giving this dude way too much credit. Yeah,
that that was beautiful handwrite beautiful handwriting. It's written in

(21:29):
pink pen, Like you think, this dude is so mad
he went and grabbed his the closest pink pen to
him to write this note.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
I just if you're writing a threatening note, at least
write it in pink. So I don't really, I don't
mean a gender stereotype. But you look at that note
and you're like, a man did not write that. It
was pretty clear that it wasn't him.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
But yeah, literally, the second that that happened, with that
line about to Quinn, I was like, Okay, Quinn built
time machine. He's a killer. Got it. And then once
they pulled him to the river and they were dragging
the river, I'm like, cool, I got motive and that
was it, and I for the rest of the movie
I didn't even bother to guess anything because there are

(22:11):
no other suspects in the movie that really make any
sense unless it was Summer herself and she never died,
which they could have done a little something like that
because we don't see her die in the opening scene.
We only see the killer take a scythe and slash
at her. We don't see the death, So if they
would have done some little tweaky or cheeky stuff where

(22:33):
it was like they never found all the bodies. They
found her, but yeah, something like that, and you could
have had her be some time travel. I don't know,
it would have made sense either way. So really the
only suspect is Quinn. But it didn't make sense for
present day Quinn. So or past whatever you're going to
pass Quin in two thousand and three Quinn. Yeah, so

(22:56):
he shows up. He says exactly what you expect him
to say. They bullied me. Shoot, yeah, that I built
the time machine and went back and decided to kill
all you guys. This is what I don't get. And
this is where the movie really falls apart to me.
So Quinn Quinn, Young Quinn two thousand and three, Quinn
takes a razor to his knife while being or takes

(23:20):
a razor to his neck, Sorry, takes a razor to
his neck while looking talking to his future self, says
I if I kill myself now, you'll die too. And
then his response to that is you're gonna learn quickly
that that's not how time travel works. So I was like, oh,
so this is not a paradox scenario. It's it works

(23:43):
in you create a new timeline. With every change you make,
you create a new timeline, which is in theory, that's
how time travel should work. So okay, that means if
Summer does live, it will not change Lucy's timeline, right,
Lucy can only return to her own timeline. Correct, So

(24:06):
I was like, got it, that makes sense. But then
she goes she takes Quinn. Who I think that Quinn
is from. In my head, I was like, he's from
a completely different timeline. He because technically he's from Lucy's timeline.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought, But he.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Really shouldn't because what just yeah, if he's from if
he's from Lucy's timeline, this is this is why you
got to stick with me and why this is this
movie falls apart. If he's from Lucy's timeline, it can
only return to that timeline. That means they never lived,
They were never alive for him to go back in
time to kill them. Do you see what I'm saying?

(24:48):
It doesn't make sense for him to be the killer
because if if he if this, Quinn exists in the
timeline where they're already dead, which is Lucy's timeline. Like
Lucy lives, Lucy exists in the timeline that the killer
Quinn is from, So how the fuck did But yeah,
this shouldn't it shouldn't be possible, like lou Okay, it

(25:08):
totally makes sense to be that Quinn went back in
time and killed people and it created a timeline and
there's Lucy. But the time machine discover being discovered by
Lucy doesn't make any sense because it should not exist
in her world because that Quinn should not it should
not be possible for him to be from that timeline.
That's why I was getting mad at first.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
You see what I'm saying, Well, you put it together
what I'm saying kind of, Well, I think it does
make sense.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It makes sense based on their bullshit rules.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Well, so, yeah, that Quinn in let's just call Lucy's
the Lucy timeline, Okay, Quinn is in the Lucy timeline,
and that that flash that she saw was Quinn going
back to two thousand and three was Lucy's Quinn. Yeah,

(25:58):
which then caught but but she wasn't there yet.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
But Lucy's Lucy's Quinn. This is Lucy can't have a
Quinn because or or can't have that Quinn because if
Lucy exists then Summer is already dead. That's what I'm saying.
So if the Quinn in her timeline cannot be pissed

(26:23):
off and want to go back and kill them because
they're already dead, see what I'm saying, Like, there is
no pissed off Quinn in her timeline because they're already dead.
So like it's fine that a Quinn goes back and
kills them, but it doesn't make sense for her to
know to see that Quinn's time machine. Yeah, this is

(26:46):
overthinking it all right, Oh, I understand I'm overthinking the problem.
Am I overthinking it? Or did they underthink it? Okay?
And it all would have been fine if he didn't
say that stupid line about you're gonna figure out the
time travel doesn't work that way, because if that's the case,
then you are in a different timeline than your past Quinn,

(27:08):
because based on the rule because like, okay, she goes
back to present day afterwards. Yeah, yeah, she goes back
to present day and she she's still alive, she's still living,
nothing changed, but her parents don't know who she is.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Right right exactly? That That makes no sense at all.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
It doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
That makes no sense whatsoever?

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I was. I was getting so frustrated because you try
to process it and you're like, well, how does so
that make any sense?

Speaker 2 (27:35):
So she pulled she pulled old quinn in back to
present day twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, killed him yep.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
In that parking garage, then waited.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
His death by the way, Yeah, so fast, so stupid. Yeah,
it was sucked.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Then goes back to that timeline.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Yeah, And then is like and then.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, goes back ghosts ghosts. She goes to her parents' house,
her house, Yeah, and they don't know who she is,
so then she goes back to that timeline somehow.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Right. This is why it doesn't make any sense because
either either you creating new timelines, what changes and you
can only only return to your timeline? Or there is
a linear track, a linear timeline and there's that's it
and everything you do changes then. But if that's the case,

(28:33):
then she should not be alive, right, like she It
makes more sense actually instead of like timelines that she's
literally from a different universe. We're seeing we're in the
multiverses for time gun. But even that, like, how are
you what? Then your parents shouldn't have forgotten you? I don't.
It doesn't make any sense, right, and all her parents

(28:56):
forgot her. Who is she? Like, who is she as
a how was she born? Yeah? Like if does she
belong to somebody else?

Speaker 2 (29:04):
Also, it's the back to the future thing where they're like, hey,
you hung out at our house for like three days
a girl who looked just like you and was named
Lucy remember that summer? Yeah, like you do you think
they would maybe be like, oh, yeah, you're really familiar, Like, nah,
they have no idea who I was.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Well, honestly though, I kind of get forgetting it. Then
went back to the future like you like, yeah, you
probably have a memory of Marty of like when you
were in high school, especially because he still gives Marty's advice.
You know, I'm sorry you put your mind to it,
you can accomplish anything. But it is one week. It's
one week, and they don't really hang out that much.

(29:45):
And at what point do you realize that Marty does
look like Marty that you knew in high school thirty
years ago? Calvin Calvin, Yeah, Marty, Hey, at what point
do you realize that, as your son's getting older, that
he does look like that guy from thirty years ago?

Speaker 2 (30:06):
It's like, I mean, hey, maybe you don't remember what
he looks like, but you you definitely remember Calvin.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
I guess. And then when Calvin Klein comes out, you're.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
Like, wait a minute, when the brand Yeah comes out,
you're like, I guess you just think that that's what
he made.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
I mean, there's definitely some things that they should have
picked up on, sure, but it does make sense that
they get how again, how long does it take? How
long does it take for Marty to grow up? For
you realize how similar our second son? Yeah, I think
it would be a lot the one that should have
been weird. They remember the old eight year old, like
if you're you know, if you have a kid someday

(30:48):
and one habit set fire to the living room, wrong,
go easy on him, and it's like then that happens. Wait, wait,
and you look like Calvin Well. George have really called
him Calvin Well? That's true. He didn't get a good
look at his underwear. No, no, not on his hope chest.

(31:08):
I guess they must call you caw. But yeah, I
know that movie very well right now, I watch it
this morning.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
But then back to time cut, Yeah, it was just like, hey,
I'm back in this timeline, they're like, oh my gosh,
and they're like, yeah, my parents parents didn't know who
I was, So I'm just gonna stay here.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
End of movie. Yeah, oh crazy.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Hold on, how are you going to exist without your social.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Sit Like Rachel was like, what, She's just gonna get adopted.
I'm like, that's the least of my fucking concerns. She
doesn't exist, she's not a person. She doesn't have she is.
There's no record in this person, So what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
No, especially if she were to go back and you know,
back to the future and we don't know who you are.
So obviously she goes upstairs to her room. Her room's
not gonna be there because she doesn't exists. So she
doesn't have a birth certificate, she doesn't have a soul
security card to even bring back to say hey, I'm
a person. She literally does not exist. Yeah, yeah, see

(32:12):
this is and we're okay with that. Apparently we have
to be because the movie ends.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
And if we're staying on this linear timeline, Quinn Quinn
is no longer a killer. His two thousand and three
self was not bullied, or he wasn't thrown into the
river because because Lucy saved him, so he never becomes
the killer that comes back to kill them, like in
theory at that moment, based on the dumb logic this movie,

(32:39):
we're good. Yep, there is no killer to come back
because Quinn never turned into a killer. So that's it.
Movie's over. Yeah, that which is for that reason, they
should have just still thrown him into the fucking river. Yeah,
it's tough. It's it's the most broke I mean, we're

(33:03):
talking about time travel here. Okay, it's already illogical, but
it's the most broken plot hole version of time travel
I've ever seen. It just doesn't make any sense. Rough.
They should have just had Summer or Lucy die. They
should have had Lucy die just either literally fade away. Yeah,

(33:23):
either she fades away and dies or it's something morbid,
or Summer ends up killing herself to save Lucy. That's
something like that.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
That is what I was thinking was gonna happen by
the end of the movie. Yeah, so, like kind of
how the Final Girls were, like you, she was destined
to die at the end the mom right, she was
destined to die kind of a thing like Summer has
to die or else Lucy never would have went back
and saved her friends, right, kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, that's another. That's another thing because because Summer doesn't die,
it's it is a paradox. The whole movie is a
paradox if you don't go in as separate timelines like
we were saying before, but based on what Quinn and
his shit, the timeline is like, don't work out that either.
So in general, just no rules, just no rules, and

(34:15):
you know what, we could be overthinking and overreacting. We
are I'm well, we're not because it's got a five
out of ten for a reason. And it's like rules
need to be in place for these types of movies
because you have to be able to make a plot
with them that makes sense, and we need to understand
the rules because otherwise it's just like this is stupid.

(34:37):
What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah? It it definitely. The ending definitely sucked.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It makes you so mad that you just forgot that
you actually were kind of having fun before that. Yeah,
aside from the rules of time travel, I just when
she a lot of convenient shit keeps happening. And then
like with the going back to the present with Quinn,
with Killer Quinn and having the electric car charger. He

(35:07):
stabs into that, it shocks somebody's still alive, and then
she grabs his knife and stabs him after he wakes
back up. I hate that stabs so much, and it's
so anti climactic that it's just like, yeah, oh it's over,
very anti climactic. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
At that point, I thought, again, there's no rules, right,
that does the time machine? So the time machine okay,
so they just use the time machine to go back
to twenty twenty four, so now they need more uh few.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
That doesn't she takes his sonar sonar, right, she takes
it from him. That's what I thought. Oh, maybe because
he had to go get some for when he was
going to go back to the present. Okay, so they're
okay that you can fill that hole.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
That good good writing, good gas there. Yeah, yeah, I
guess you're right there.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, but it's just this uh really trying to force
the instead of killing one of the sisters, we want
them to be happily. Ever after, I just.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, then she applies for NASA's two thousand and three internship. Yeah,
and NASA's just like you, there's no record of this
person existing. Ye, you're in.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Did we see that she got accepted? Is that a thing? Yes?
I think it was. I think she.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think the last email that she wrote email on
your honored dial up it works, Yeah, that.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Was I think she. I think it said she was accepting.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
So this person with that has no record of existing,
no grades NASA, NASA a government operation.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
She must have had one hell of a senior year
that one year. Yeah, because she's like I you're saying,
she has the knowledge, But how do you what she's
gonna take her ged? Like, how do you get to
the point? I don't know it. It's very illogical. The
whole thing, the whole thing. If you if you truly
are a person who has no record at all, like

(37:17):
in the world, in the world, they can't figure out
who you are. What does America do? Like, what what
is next for you? Do you get to get this
whole security number? How did they give you a real id? Well,
like you're gonna make up your name? Can you whatever
you want?

Speaker 2 (37:32):
Like, well, like some babies you know, dropped off at
the orphanage or at the fire station there.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Now, maybe there's DNA when you're born, you know what
I mean? I mean yeah, but like you know, back
in you know, nineteen seventy, baby is left on the
orphanage stairs.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's all the difference of baby though, and you're you.
They are then creating the record, right for what what?
What would America do? I'm sure there's cases out there
like this is an adult, we don't know who it is,
no rednia. Yeah, like what happens?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I mean at some point, maybe you do just make
it up. If they if you are not in any
in twenty twenty five, you know, you're not in any
DNA database anywhere, and they can't figure out anything with
any potential matches of any DNA database, maybe they do.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Just make it up. I need to do some research
on that because I'm just curious. You want to disappear, Yeah,
well that's stealing identities, all right, because if you want
to disappear, you just got to take someone else's identity
and get rid of your old Well yeah, we're talking
about no identities whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Yeah. I enjoyed the vibe again. It's it's time travel. Yes,
it's two early two thousands. The vibe was there.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, it's got a lot going for it, and just
the ending is really just all falls apart, and yeah
it's sad, yeah it, but I still think it's significantly
better than it's a wonderful knife, Like it's a wonderful.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Knife is so dumb and you and you said earlier
that it's better than or that Totally Killer is better.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Than time Cut, time cut, and who've seen Totally Killing?
I have, Yeah, I significantly I think Totally Killer is
better better? Yes, do I Which one? Do I enjoy more?
Totally Killer for sure? Dude, I don't know, because because
Aprilavine plays.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Yeah, and that's a Carlton and wetst.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Totally Killer has good kills as well. And that's that
is true, really uh really self aware and like punchy dialogue,
you know. I And there's because there's a little bit
bigger of a gap, a little bigger of a gap
with time. You just you can have you can make
fun of the time, how things have changed a little bit.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
That's forty years in Totally Killer thirty.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I think it's thirty thirty thirty or forty because you know,
And then the ending is so creative and they they do,
they do, and I'm not gonna spoil it, but they
do in totally kill her. What backs features should have
done right? And I'm like, good for you. So I
really like that, like that movie beginning to end works
time cut, beginning to like forty five minutes in that

(40:23):
We're good there. Yeah, I don't know, maybe an hour. Yeah, no,
it does, okay, it does okay until until they get
to sonar. Then it's like, okay, so what.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
It's got a thirty something percent on Rotten Tomatoes this
movie time Cut.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah. Yeah, it's got a five out of ten nine
to b.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Oh twenty four for critics and thirty three for audience.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Sounds about right. What would you give it? Uh, I'm
going to give it the benet of the doubt that
the ending doesn't completely tank it. I'm gonna match its
IMDb score at a five five out of ten. Yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
I gave it on my letterbox, which is how I'm
gonna keep track, just because you know I have ADHD.
I gave it three stars. I did say I would
give it a whole star bump for the soundtrack, so
I guess it's a two. No, so it's a four four.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Out of five. Wait, great movie? Wait no, no, I
you know what I'll give it a three and a
half stars. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Star star ratings are based on my personal enjoyment movie quality.
That's what I that's what I put on my letterbox list.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
You need a disclaimer for how trash your ratings are.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Yeah, Otherwise people are gonna say, why do you have
I Know what to do last summer at a perfect five.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Out of five? True? True? Yeah. I don't like going
out of five on things like there's a big difference
between a two and a half star film and a
five five out of ten, you know what I mean? Like,
doesn't five out of ten just seem worse? Or it's
like or a three and a half star film seems

(42:08):
worse than a seven out of ten? You know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
It's like I give a lot of movies three and
a half stars on my letter box I see, but.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
I would I would rarely give something a seven out
of ten. You know, it's kind of high. It's pretty
high school. I wouldn't say rarely, but you gotta be
you gotta be legit good. I feel like to get
that high. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
I enjoyed the vibes, but the ending just crashes and burns.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
Sure does. Yeah, but uh yeah, that's time cut. If
you haven't seen it, well, you don't know need to
waste your time anymore.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
I mean, well, if you're at the end of this
and you haven't seen it, maybe maybe it's not worth
the watching. But if you hadn't seen it, I think
every movie is worth a watch.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Really. I can definitely send you a couple that you
would change your mind. Jeepers, Creepers, Reborn.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Maybe not unless you just want to see one of
the worst movies ever made.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
He said to be two was up there. You don't
need to watch that. You don't need to watch that
Death House. I can make an argument that that's probably
not worth your time. I just want to say, you know,
buy to some people. Yeah that's true. I won't say
by the gunner. Yeah, there you go. Yep, Okay, that's
time cut. We'll be back next week with I already forgot.

(43:31):
Isn't wolf Man next week? It's Wolfman next week, a
brand new release. Gonna go see it in theaters. Leewanel's
wolf Man. By the way, I'll dog in this more
next week. I hate the way they're marketing that movie.
I really hope that I trust Lye went out and
I think, I hope it's a good movie. But god,

(43:52):
they they revealed, they revealed the costume like the look
of wolf Man at Halloween Hornites and then they they
do they revealed the full transformation already, Like what are
you doing stupid? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Yeah, I'm trying to stay away from anymore because I
feel like trailer one was just all right.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
I saw most of the movie. Yeah, luckily I've avoided
most of it. But man, Twitter, everything's on Twitter, so
x the everything up? Yeah, if you will, the everything up,
the everything app. Okay, speak much follow us on x
we haven't already had slashing cast and Instagram. I might
start posting there soon, who knows. Subscribe on YouTube? I
you're not a member on YouTube mostly the video version

(44:32):
of the show. That's the place to do it. Okay,
then is always thinking. So much for listening, and we'll
talk to you next time. Bye, Tone Hide your Rise
from the movie screen toes from the Horror.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Screen Hall of Fame for Villains, watch the take a ball.
This slasher has no doubt Bell go all about to
make every death count. No, no,

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