E134: Wolf Man (2025) | Spoiler Review & Discussion - Make Every Death Count

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Behind a mask.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Holicy for fish?

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Watch the take all.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
What's happening? Love is what's going on. We're gonna get tropical.
We're gonna get tropical. Welcome back to another episode of
Make Every Death Count, brought you by the slashing Cast
podcast Network, where your hosts. My name is Riley, my
name is Nick. And can you believe that we already
recorded this intro once?

Speaker 1 (00:52):
We didn't get very far.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
We didn't get very far. We didn't get very far,
but we did realize we weren't recording. Not sure if
that was a skill issue or a technical issue. I'm
looking now it's red. I'm pretty sure it was a
skill issue. If you're seeing this, then it's working.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
The thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Listen, we use one of the road the road Caster Video,
not the Roadcaster Audio pro one not this is the
one with video. Because the video versions be able for
members on YouTube. Uh yeah, so the screen it is
this fucking big and look at my fingers, all right,
big fingers. So sometimes it's a little hard to click

(01:32):
around and navigate that thing. And I have a feeling
it was a skill issue and I just clicked out
of the record.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
I didn't know. But now I'm paranoid. Now I'm gonna
keep checking out.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Yeah, so we're watching this time. But what we said
in the intro the first time was something on the
lines of, oh man, we went and saw Wolfman. Oh dude,
it's a first movie I've seen in the year.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
Yeah, it's the first first movie we've seen in a
long time together in the theater. We saw Night Swim.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, we we did that. The last movie that you
and I saw together in a movie theater was Night Swim.
I still don't believe you, because I don't recall watching
the movie in theaters at all. I'll find the picture
because I thought the only because that would have been
after my son was born, because I thought the first
movie I saw or he was born was Trapp. I
thought that was the only movie I've seen since he
was born. But I guess night Swim made the cut.

(02:19):
It was just so bad. Cut it out of my memory.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Fucking January Blumhouse, yeah, or January Blumhouse is always bad?

Speaker 2 (02:30):
So what is Wolfman? I didn't know January Horror. Were
they going to score this time around? That's the question. Uh.
But this review is a spoiler review. Okay, this movie's
hard to talk about without doing spoilers, so that's what
we wanted to do. However, we did do a short
review for our members YouTube members that is spoiler free.

(02:52):
So if you're just dying to hear our spoiler free
analysis of this film, that's the place to go. Really
gotta hear it. But if you don't want to pay
any money to hear that, then that sounds like a
waste of money, which fair enough, I hear you. In
a nutshell, We do recommend going to see it if

(03:12):
you have any interest in seeing this movie, if something
about it seems intriguing to you. Trailers, synopsis wolf Man
in general, you're were wolf fan. The way to watch
this movie is in theaters because a lot of directional
sound in there. They are, or you need to have
a really good surround sound because they are. It's everywhere.
It's very important to the viewing experience. I think of
wolf Man to see with a good surround sound system. Yep,

(03:35):
there we go. I feel like we're relatively caught up
on what bullshit? That was a lot longer the first
time we were said it, but in a nutshell that
was we was wrapped up our first intro that we
didn't record, correct.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Yeah, oh well, we moved on to what we also included.
The trailer. I saw the trailer. You didn't, Yeah, the
full trailer.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I saw a teaser when like they first started marketing,
but never the full trailer.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I saw the trailer. I was half watching it, and
I read a lot of comments that said that they
were spoiling the transition scene. Right, and again, I don't
really remember that much of the trailer because I half
watched it because I didn't want to be spoiled. And
I don't think that they are correct, because the whole
movie is the transition scene.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, the whole movie, with which I didn't know. I
didn't know that what the movie was about at all.
I because the synopsis, all right, family, remote farmhouse. They're
attacked by an unseen animal. But as the night stretches on,
the father begins to transform into something unrecognizable. That's literally
the IMDb synopsis they say it right there, and I'm like, oh, okay,

(04:45):
because I didn't know that. I had no idea that
that's what we were doing the whole time. That is,
the whole movie is just his He gets attacked, he
gets clawed by the werewolf and just slowly but surely
is transitioning into a werewolf. And that's it. So there's
no real transformation scene, it doesn't exist because it's the

(05:06):
whole movie which is in it. That's one first step
to what Leewinell did differently yep. And I don't even
think we talked about Leeweel because that was another thing
that was in our intro. This movie's written directed by
Lee Winnell. He also co wrote with his wife Corbett Tuck.
And I'm rooting for Lee. I am because Lee wrote Saw.
Lee wrote Insidious directorial debut with in Citious three. Just

(05:30):
he's been a James wand they've been tight for a
long time. So a lot of things you see James
wand on, leewin l was on at least back in
the day that James Wand you know, he directed Thurius
seven and then he abandoned everybody. Yeah he left us
for Hollywood. Now I'm just kidding, but yeah, they used
to be Uh it was like everything. If James was
on it, Lee was on it. So yeah, now he's

(05:50):
out here directing Wolfman. Would have thought not me.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
James Wand's other bud, Jason Won.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I love that guy. I do like Jason Blum.
I think his heart's in the right place. I just
think Blum something everything. Every once in a while, I
think Blum gets a little greedy and they're like, let's
throw five million dollars at this this shitty idea. We'll
make a quick buck and then we'll take that money
and we'll fund a better project. I literally think that's
the mentality. It's like, we're gonna make one really cheap,

(06:18):
bad movie so that we can put a little bit
more money in five minuts Fridays. Sound good.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, that's that's about right. Yeah, Because some of the
January horror that Blumhouse has released has been awful.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Sick Yeah, Sick wasn't awful, man, but it's not very good.
Definitely overrated. When it first came out, I.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Did not get sick on the cack sick on the cack.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
But then you know, like just last year alone bro
Afraid Afraid, uh, imaginary Imaginary, It's one of the worst
moves oversea. So yeah, dude, they just and then there
was something else that was awful actual nights Nights. Now
there's another one. So they had four awful one because
there was one I'm forgetting, But yeah, dude, they just

(07:03):
man when they missed, they fucking miss souh. Yeah. Wolf
Man a little nerve wragging for that reason. But what
the hell was I saying before we got into Lee
went Now because I was skipping out on Lee wentel
Uh he's a goat. Yeah, but okay, the movie went
in blind. I didn't know about the whole movie and

(07:23):
a transition scene. That was what I was saying. The
whole I had establishedly went out before we went into
the conversation, try to establishly went out. But one of
the things that leaded differently for in terms of like
what we're used to with were wolf movies is that
there's no transitioning back. Right once you're a wolf, you're
a wolf, which they kind of make it clear right
away because the opening scene we see a wolf man

(07:47):
and the sun's up yep. I was meanly like, there's
no moon out here. Hey, wait a minute, because I
thought they were gonna do like, oh, I can see
the moon right now.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, it was uh, it was dawn. That scene takes
place at at dawn in the morning, so yeah, the
sun's sun's up. Gun guns up, so guns up, not
guns out, guns up. Yeah, and he's he's still running around.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah. So it's immediately you're like, oh, this is different.
We're not doing kind of the stereotypical wear a wolf thing.
We're doing someone bit different. And I said to you, now,
that's one of the things, like there's the actual lore
of wear wolve's in this movie, but I think the
design of the wolf is very bigfooting to me, so
it just kind of basing the lore and based on

(08:38):
the look, I was like, this isn't a wolf were
wolf movie. This is a bigfoot movie. Kind of looks
like a big fun.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
A little bit, a little bit if he grew a little.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Taller, yeah, a little short. Yeah, but it when they're
just like standing because the first time you actually see
the wolf in the movie, the opening scene with Blake
and his dad. Our main character Blake and his father,
whose name I don't remember. Grady Grady. Yeah, Yeah, that's right,

(09:07):
Grady Grady. Yeah, he goes out, he's going out hunting
with his dad. Blake's went on hunting with his dad.
They they're they're trying to get deer, you try to
trying to eat, trying to get some food for the house,
because they're aund just like an isolated farmhouse in I
think northern Oregon. They're up there. They're up there and

(09:27):
in freaking one hundred foot tall pine trees area. Okay,
and yeah, so they go out there they're hunting, and
you can tell very quickly that that he's very strict,
very strict father, and he gets on Blake gets too
far away, or he doesn't he's not listening close enough.

(09:47):
He's just a kid. It was he ten, did he
mean estandlish hold he is probably just about Yeah. So
he just he's out there hunting his own food, and
he's gotta make sure he knows his way around the
woods or he's gonna get hurt. So you just kind
of tell that Grady's paranoid, and uh turns out rightfully
so because he knows that where wolves are a thing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Mm hmmmm.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
And then we see one and Blake gets his scope
on one and that's dude, that was Bigfoot.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Yeah, he was just standing there medicineally.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Who's that bigfoot? See?

Speaker 1 (10:19):
That's the interesting thing, Like he's because he had that
little speech about how like the easiest thing is to die,
the easiest thing is for people to leave you kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
So that makes I guess that's That's just one big
little reference at the end of the movie.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
So I'm like, is it his brother? Is it something
like a family member? I'm like, could it have been
his his wife, Blake's mother. It's not wolf wolf, wolf
space woman. It's wolf space man, So probably not.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Maybe it's a man, you know, like in a Broadway.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
You many human.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
You know how Like I don't know, I'm trying to
think of any phrase from the Bible ever, but I.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Can't wolf space human.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Maybe that's why the space is there.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
If you high they wrote it in white font, so
when you highlight it, it says.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Humans invisible ink. Invisible ink right there. That'd be funny.
You just take like an ultra violet flashlight to any
of the posters in the theater and it just human.
That was the working title.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Could have been.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
They erase the H and the U.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Done it again.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
God damn, that's great. Uh okay, so man, well man,
let me just kind of like give you my how
I feel about this movie coming out of it. It's
weird doing a spoiler free review and then doing it
as spoiler one because you're like, what should I say?
Because so many people here and never to listen that
spoiler free one. The movie looks good. It looks great. Actually,

(12:00):
like some of the night cinematography. I'm not gonna say,
it's all the way up to uh, what's the movie?
What's the movie on the Jordan Peeld movie? Sorry the light. Yeah,
it's not as good as Nopes nighttime cinematography, but there
are some seriously good looking night shots. It's crazy what
you can do with digital cinema these days. Which I
don't know what they shot on, but this was like

(12:23):
they grabbed some I bet you they shot on some
sort of sony sony camera with just the low light performances.
I was singing out there, it's.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
Not on IMDb. I was gonna tell you, but it's
not there.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Yeah they were. They must have had hella large sensors
pulling in light like that. So yeah, it looks great
in those very dark shots, and it looks great in general.
There's really good movement. It was a lot of stuff
going on there, good effects, not just digital effects but
also your practical effects. It looks the wolf design looks good.

(12:59):
The body horror is great. So the the special effects
you're getting there with the body horror are pretty brutal,
pretty great. I just don't like the actual wolf design,
is what I was saying. She's very big footy to me.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah. Sound design as well.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Sound design is great. The score is great, yeh, Yeah,
the performances are great.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, where I think the movie lacks and this is
a being a dead horse here because of the spoiler
free review, but I I don't think we ever get
enough establishment of our main characters, that being Blake, Charlotte,
and I don't remember the daughter's name. It's gonna click.
Uh it didn't click our name.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Snap blank snap, huh blank snap.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Ginger snaps oh Ginger, Wow, her name is Ginger. Yeah,
so Ginger, Charlotte, Blake and you. Yeah, they're again. The
formances are good, and they try to establish them. They
try to give us we okay, we know that the
Charlotte Blake's relationship isn't too great lately. We know that

(14:12):
Blake is in between jobs and things might be hard.
We know that Blake has a better relationship with Ginger
than Charlotte does, and we get we're getting we're getting there,
but it's kind of like it's basically like, hey, here
are the bullet points. Here's the bullet points of what
these characters are. But we're not gonna go into them.
We're not gonna make you actually get to know them personally.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, well, because the whole movie is a transformation.
And at some point, kind of early on, he's unable
to talk.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, so yeah, either once were there, Once we're at
the he's becoming Awarewolf, the developmenttween those characters is gone,
like that was it. You had your moment and it's over.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
So in the opening scene, his dad was very hard
on him, and then right when we flash forward, he's like, listen,
my dad was very hard on me. That's why I
don't want to be a mean I don't want you
to fear me. I'm here, I'm always going to be here,
and I am always here to protect you. And then
once he's unable to talk, and they made it very

(15:16):
clear that Charlotte and is so busy that her and
Ginger's relationship is not as close as as Blake's and Ginger's, right,
So then once he's unable to communicate, they're like, they're
still kind of not super close.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Yeah, like Charlotte, Yeah, and they're not they're not able
to connect emotionally, right because we're in the middle of
just action the whole movie, correct, So we just don't
what I would call it. I would call it dating
app development. Yeah, that's what I would call it. Because
you can look at someone's dating profile, you're dating app
profile you could get you can get a breakdown quickly

(15:58):
of who that person is. But until you get to
know them, until you meet them and talk to them
and see what they're actually like, you don't really get
to know that person. And that's kind of what the
development in this movie is. It's dating app development where
it's we again, you got the bullet points, so we
get what they're doing. It's we know what the characters are,
we know what they're struggling with very quickly, but we

(16:19):
don't get to see them in action enough before shit
hits the fan and all of a sudden that development
is over.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
It's one hundred and three minutes. And if yeah, if
they would have added a little more to it, they
really could have, you know, pulled up some heartstrings at
a couple different points. But like they they started and
then nope, yeah, like I'm like, okay, they're gonna get
closer and close. No they didn't. It was just okay,
here's here's you know, thirty percent pulling on your heartstring

(16:46):
and then nope, we're done because it's just action. Yeah, yeah,
which isn't a terrible thing. It just didn't work very
well in their favor. If they weren't trying to do that,
then they accomplished goal. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
The thing is usually when you say, like, hey, the
pacing's really fast paced, so you know, we hit the
ground running. That's often the good thing in movies. But
because of what this is, because it's a movie with
the very small family, three people cast, you know, a
three person cast, and we're isolated at a farmhouse middle
of nowhere, those characters need to mean something and because
we just didn't, we didn't get there.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Right because the movie, I mean it we go right
into it and they don't get you know, a day
to settle into this house, work bond. That was the
whole point. They they're working. Charlotte is working so much,
not being able to spend time with Blake or Ginger,
so they could have had a moment or a whole
day of bonding and getting closer. And Blake tells Ginger,
you know your mom is trying really hard here blah

(17:43):
blah blah. But we don't because we as soon as
we get to this house, it's nighttime and shit has
already hit the fan. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, because you get the opening scene, which I like
the opening scene. It kind of proves to be. All
it does really is establishes the location. I guess, it
establishes Blake's father, who, of course, you know, you figure
out the end so quickly with it. Yeah, and establishes
the end of the movie like the Deer Stand. Okay.

(18:15):
But yeah, so after that opening scene, we skip ahead
thirty years later. Blake is now forty I guess, married
daughter finds out. The way they say is like, oh, hey,
I just got a letter. They have they are locking
in that my father is deceased.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
They've officially declared my father deceased.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, which means really one of two things. Either he's
you know, brain dead on life support, or he's missing.
The missing one's the obvious one in the scenario.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
So, yeah, when he's sitting down in his bunker underneath
his house and he's talking about he's gonna be the
one to take out that wolf man monster the face
of the wolf, you kind of figures he's going missing.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, So and then once that happens, nobody ever watching
this movie is gonna be shocked that one of the
wolves later on, the wolf that Blake is fighting as
his own wolf, is his dad. It's a fucking no brainer. Yeah,
uh yeah, but yeah, I mean that's that's pretty much it.
We get that establishment, We get one more scene where

(19:19):
Blake is talking to Charlotte and they confirm that their
relationship ain't going too well and he's looking too good.
And then we're in a we're in a moving truck
and we're on the way to the farmhouse. And on
the way to the farmhouse they meet uh, what.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Is his name, Drake, the Dockhan guy.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Derek, And it was a d I just couldn't think of
the Derek. Uh, Derek is the son of the the
guy that Grady tries to radio at the beginning of
the movie. So he's been living there his whole life.
They see him. I don't know why he's so creepy.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
It was a really nice callback to the beginning where
you just see the black silhouette in the distance, Yeah,
the wolf man. And then they're at the tree stand
and there's just the black human like silhouette standing in
the tree stand like that was that was fun. And
then he turns around or he goes to climb down
the ladder and you see the gun. You're like, Okay,
that's a human.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, I don't mind that being a man. I don't
mind that being creepy. I just think it's weird. If
you live on the woods your whole goddamn life, you'd
be socially awkward. So yeah, he's just a little weird.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I think he again with the development, like we didn't
get a lot of time. He is very clearly upset
that blake, you know, got out got to live his
gotta live a life, a nice life. They don't they're
not worried about anything. They don't have to be strong
because they're taken care of where I'm out here fighting
for my life every goddamn day right kind of a thing.

(20:46):
But again, he's in it for five minutes, yeah, seven minutes,
so yeah, and he's really.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Only in there to be a victim, to be a
reason for like the wolf to get a hill in
and to get to Drake or to Drake Jesus, to
get to Blake to attack him and start the infection.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Well also his gun at the end, yeah, his gun
of course.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah. So but yeah, I mean, yeah, they pick him
up and they're trying to they're driving to the farmhouse, which,
by the way, was was there just gonna walk a
way back to his house because they were driving for
a while, David drove for a while. That was my
first thing I was thinking. I was like, what, Okay,
there's a plot. Hole doesn't matter because he's gonna get
go by the wolf.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
He also he also was there to explain that the
wolf men you men, uh, that they do not like
the light. They said, everyone you know around here you
turn off your power at night. And then Blake is like, oh,
I thought that was just my dad. But I think

(21:49):
that I thought that was just my dad being paranoid.
They they don't like the light or like the people
that live there to light the light. No the wolf
I think I think it was pointing at the wolves
don't like the light, but they don't have any Is.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
That why they're there because there's no lights in that
area because they don't have lights. That's like the problem.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Well they later on because when he went and turned
on the generator, then yeah, that's when the wolves stayed
around and kept walking around the house because it was light.
At least that's what I assumed because he made the
comment like, oh, yeah, you know, we turn off the
power at night, and then Blake's like, oh, I thought

(22:32):
that was just my dad's thing.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
So they like the light?

Speaker 1 (22:36):
Well no, well no, because we find because because like
in the barn when we were they're in the darkness
and she has the flashlight, and then we we switch
over to his point of view and he can see
perfectly fine, and their eyes are glowing.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, so what they just can't see as well with
the lights.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
But then he's the point. But then they turned the
the the flashlight on and he's freaking out. He also
stepped in the bear trap. But also, but that's what
I got that like they can't see very well in
the light because when he finally like fully transforms and
he's looking into the woods, like you can see it
gets brighter so he can see in the dark. That's

(23:21):
what I assumed.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
I just didn't assume. Shit, I get Lee, all right,
I get what he's Yeah, yeah, human, yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
And Lee, if you didn't intentionally do that, give me
credit for that.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Come on, I guess where where my brain was with it,
the you know, the hey, it's dark out there, because
he was kind of like, stay at night, you want
to be home, you don't want to be out because
it's we don't have roadside lights out here. I didn't
really think beyond anything other than the fact that they
can see you can That was That's literally all I
didn't establish, like them not going into the light or whatever, just.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Which I guess if the werewolves could wolf men could
still u they can see without the light, like they
can see better, so they could still see your house like.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
He was doing just finding the dawn and that's the
fucking sunlight. So I just feel like for us in
light wouldn't make a big difference. I don't know, and
support it and Turlish, uh yeah, so car accident happens
and when they're off and running. Yeah, which that car
accident was crazy, by the way, that's pretty I was
kind of wondering the whole time how they were shooting that.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Yeah, I don't know if I if I I did,
definitely did not predict the wolf man standing in the road.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
Yeah, because when we're you kind of get hey, I
want to show my family this. I want you guys
to see the canyon and you know, it's a beautiful thing,
which we get they get there eventually at the end
of the movie. But I just thought we would get
more development. And I feel like we should have got
more development because we could have really allowed that family
to bond more and care for them more.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
Again, Yeah, get them to bond, spend a day, chop
some wood, you know, hang out see the canyon or
or or don't or think about going to see the canyon.
But get a whole day of development before tragedy strikes.
But then no, he's turned around and he's talking to
his daughter, talking about his daughter, and then as soon
as he whips forward, boom, wolf man standing on two

(25:21):
legs in the middle of the road caused him to veer.
Should have just hit the motherfucker. But yeah, then yeah, turn,
does a bunch of flips slide. It's just like he
goes straight down a massive hill and then lands on
in a couple in a tree. Yeah, they're like sideway
the van is side of the van. It's you haul

(25:44):
ya is sideways, fully sideways, like perpendiculo to the ground,
up in a tree, in a tree. Yeah, it's kind
of it's very Jurassic parky kind of. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
If you imagine that scene in Dass Park where they're
hanging fround from the trees, just take take the car
and flip it this way. Yeah, and yeah, same thing
really so yeah, and then like you said, from there,
we're we're off and going. Then they run away, they
get to the farmhouse, and from there on it's pretty
much it can almost be redundant, honestly, because the it's

(26:17):
just this slow transition for Blake, and you know, we're
just we're just getting closer and closer. He's getting a
little more.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Woolfie's hallucinating, which I didn't really get that very much.
He was hallucinating like when he is like you keep
calling on the radio, I'll go board up the front door.
And he goes to the front door. Her daughter stands
there and stares at him, and then she goes and
she stares at him, and they're like He's like what,
I'll be there in a minute. Then gosh, yeah, and

(26:46):
then and then he goes to board up and suddenly
they're in the basement or though they're on the couch
cuddled up.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
I didn't think that was an hallucination. I thought that
was the start of the lack of communication. I thought
they didn't respond to him because he literally.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Was speaking Yeah, yeah, I don't know, Yeah, not very clear.
Because then there was another time where he saw them
in the basement, but they were actually sleeping on the
couch upstairs, and that's when he goes upstairs and find
he hears the spider, right, yeah, like he.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
By the way that that crazy hearing just kind of
disappears after that, but he's not he can still do it.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
But there's a little bit that you can hear U
Charlotte's heartbeat a little later.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
You were talking.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
They definitely should have leaned into it a little more. Yeah,
there was a little bit. He's hearing feet in the
early part of his transformation, he's hearing a spider walking
the floor above him. That was a big spider.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It wasn't a big spider, but like that is insane,
and that just kind of goes away.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
And then he heard her talking through the through the
floor to the basement, and then I could do that.
But then yeah, he heard he heard a couple of things,
heard her talking on the radio, heard them out in
the barn. The truck turning on freaked him out because
it was really loud.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Yeah, I guess so, and same with the other wolf
heard it. Yeah, you think like the generator being on
it all would be driving him nuts because of the
spider was loud as shit.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
I guess the generator was down the hill a little bit.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
But have you ever heard of spider walk? Go put
your fucking ear up to the spider on the wall.
You're not gonna hear it walking, dude. He was like thumping.
It was crazy. It was like ghost Jason never hike alone,
footsteps on that spider's feet, you know, Like it was
crazy how loud they were.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah, yeah, I wish they would have leaned into it
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah, I thought that was everything. I like, maybe you
shut your power off because the noise of the because
they're running generators out there. Maybe that's why, And I
don't know in supporting.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, that could that could be it as well. You
don't run the power because they'll hear it. Yeah, and
they will come.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, but apparently they can come whenever the hell they want.
That's why I don't the the ability to have were
wolf's bigfoot out there in the middle of the day.
Just you know, they have no weakness except they do.
I mean, they kind of died fast. And like when
Blake killed his dad, the wolf his dad. Oh god,
it's just a throat bite.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Yeah, that bad. He bit his throat out after he
already ate his fingers off and.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
That's just yeah, he just vomited a bunch of blood
and the fingers and it was kind of it.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah. And then yeah, he ripped his throat out. Yeah,
revealed the tattoo.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
What, Oh my god. Yeah, I would have thought the
thought that was his dad the.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Whole Everyone in the theater did not make a noise or.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I did hear one person say, oh, it's his dad.
I did hear one person say that, and I was like,
shut up, Yeah I was dad.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
So that spoiler alert. It was an older couple in
the same row as us. I think it was the
I think it was her, and then the people that
I opened the door for when we walked in, they
were right behind us.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Oh that's nice.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, so it would have been that that girl there.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That makes sense. But yeah, it was of course, it
wasn't like it. They weren't like shock. Yeah, it wasn't
like that. I was like, oh, it's a dad, Yeah,
yes it is. It sure is.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
I could have could have said that an hour and
a half ago.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
But yeah, right, like, of course that's where it's going.
But yeah, when we get to the final climax, you know,
Charlotte and Ginger runoff into the woods the end up
finding Derek's gun. They go to the same tree stand,
the same tree stand we see the beginning of It's
not a tree stand, it's a deer stand because it's

(30:52):
not to a tree, but you called it. Ginger calls
to the treehouse. It's importing. Uh. They go to the
same one from the beginning of the movie. I assume
the point, which I don't know if they are claw
marks in the door. Wonder if it actually is the
same deer stand. I don't know, but yeah, they go
there and they're waiting to kill Blake. Kill Daddy, kill Blake. Now,

(31:15):
now one couple things with us. I think it happens
the way too fast, Like we go from pretty intense
action scenes one beat to the next, and it concludes
quite quickly. Yep. I was also was gonna be frustrated
the fact that Blake, as a werewolf, the wolfman was
unable to catch to catch Charlotte Ginger, but he does,

(31:39):
he'd have a foot.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Yeah, it was only running on three limbs. Come on,
you try running on three limbs.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
I can't run on two.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
I can't either.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Actually, running on three limbs would be very ard as
a human. You tried running on three limbs, I might Okay,
good luck, I only have three working limbs. My right
leg is gone.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Oh you're used to it, then I could be I
should be you know what, I'm gonna be the wolf
space man.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
But they get the Yeah, they're at the deer stand.
Blagans are crawling up there very slowly and gets to
the top, and you could I actually I kept waiting
for a transformation out of the wolf. But that's what
I thought was happening there, because they even had the
sun come up, and again I was like, oh, maybe

(32:31):
you can't be a wolf during the day, right, because
he starts to sound human again. I don't know if
you heard it a little bit. I thought, yeah, I could
kind of hear him sounding human again, so I thought
that was gonna happen. And but yeah, he gets up
there and all of a sudden, he just kind of
loses the animal instinct and he's calm again, and he
wants to die. I guess.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Yeah, I don't know, maybe the tree stand just finally
got to him, or maybe the whole time he was
just a thing more like an animal, because he's like, please.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Just he had to shoot me. Yeah, I was. I
was kind of thinking that maybe he just wanted to
die because at.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
The end, Yeah, he's sitting there and of course, you know,
the daughter can read minds. That's the running joke throughout
the whole thing. She's like, yeah, he wants you to
and just suffering.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
Yes, he just wants to be over with things what
she said.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
And then she didn't pull the trigger and so then
he had to rip the door open.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Yeah, he had like go to attacker.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Or this is this is where I think if you
establish these characters much more thoroughly, because at the end
of the day, we just saw, you know, his wife
just had to shoot him and kill him as.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
They were working towards bettering their relationship. Yeah, the daughter
is the one who finally said. The daughter who's super
close to the dad, said yeah, you have to shoot him.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Yeah, you got to kill him, and she had to
witness that, and like that sounds like it would be
very intense, like just didn't feel anything. It wasn't that
I didn't give a shit because, like I decided, I
don't know, man, you just there's not enough development where
you're like that hurts. I'm gonna cry right, and you
may you could have, because not only should you have
developed them more, but I would have actually gone way
further with I need to kill my own father type thing.

(34:13):
I would have had Charlotte get knocked out.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
And Ginger be the one to shoot him.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Yeah, Charlotte get knocked out and then I don't know how,
but then Ginger has the gun. That's what brings him
out of the animal instinct. So he's in animal instinct.
He knocks out Charlotte, and then when he goes to
attack Ginger, she now has a gun. He comes out
of it and he realized what he's about to do,
and then she's he grabs the gun barrel and puts

(34:41):
it to his head. Yeah, and she has to pull
the trigger. That that fucking works better to me, Like, you,
there's so much you could have done. It really packed
the punch Man, Yeah it Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
They just it could have been a lot more again
with character development, like back before a little bit earlier,
when he is inaudible, he can't speak, but he can
still like he's seeing them were kind of and then
she puts her hand on his head and she talks
and he can't understand her. But then he's like, I

(35:16):
love you, and that came through Like it should have
been a lot more there, like maybe he's thinking stuff
and she's getting closer and crying. That scene should have
been a little longer, just to really pull on your heartstrings,
like she is so connected to her father who is
turning into an animal. Yeah, a wolf spaceman.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
Hey, you just don't get enough, so you don't really don't.
You don't feel shit in my opinion, at the end
there maybe it got to some of you, but I
was I now I'm the kind of I'll cry to
here In movies, alright, I'm a bitch like that, So
for it not to affect me, I was like, damn,
like you cry your arm again? All right, well everyone does.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
I never have, never have yet. One time I got
just quick story here. I've told you this a million times,
but it's a funny story. One time, flying first class
up in the sky on the way back from Austin, Texas,
I got super drunk on a plane drinking Scotch with
my heart surgeon passenger, and I was watching Armageddon and

(36:14):
got to the end right when I was about to
lay in the plane, and I had to cry, right
fucking Bruce willis good. Oh do when Ben Affleck's in
the when he gets he closed the door on ben Affleck. Yeah,
dude gets me every time. It's so sad, a great
crying out. See that, that's how you established.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
We should have watched them. Oh but but yeah, like
when when finally she's like, you know, you have to
shoot him, and then he rips the door off and
she pulls the trigger. We just sat there like okay,
and then they walk and they finally get to see
that that valley with the sunrise, and you're like, yep, Okay,
credits are gonna roll in five four three two yep,

(36:58):
and that's it.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
They recreate the same shot that Blake have with his
father at the opening of the movie. Yep.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
And then yeah, and we were just like okay, yeah,
and here come the credits and there we are. Yeah,
and then the credits start out just a big L.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Yeah. I can't believe they didn't. They didn't think about that.
So what they what they do in the end Crimes.
I think the point is that it's it starts with
one letter and it transitions into another, and they keep
doing that for the for the credits. Yeah, it's the
maatic because they're transforming. Huh, because it's a transformation movie.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
They start out with Lee went L.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, and it's just a big L that slowly zooms in.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
I was like, okay, then directed by Lee one L.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
But it's it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
We just it cuts to black and put the It's like, oh,
I could have imagined seeing that with a theater full
like high school or yeah, like that was really funny.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah. So that's where I'm all with wolf Man. Not
not too many things in there. I said this in
the spoiler Free review too. It's like nothing in there
really pisses you off. No, it's not like, oh I
hate that plot point, I hate this, I hate that.
It's nothing like that. It just ultimately feels underwhelming because
it can't pack a punch when you just don't like
the characters enough, it's not there. It's really carried by

(38:23):
a little bit of star power, having you know, Julie
Gardner in there. It's carried you you like the cast,
I just don't know if you get to like who
they're playing. And just a reminder, like I said in
the spoiler free it was supposed to be Ryan Gosling, Yeah,
as as the Wolfman, and they probably figured, well, he's
not gonna be able to talk for sixty percent of

(38:43):
the movie, so what's the point in paying Ryan Gosling. Yeah,
a bit of a waste of money.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
He's still a producer, which I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's cool.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, he's produced producer.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Uh. Yeah, Like like we said before, if you had
any interest in seeing it, go see it in theaters.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
Yeah, it's worse in that type of environment for sure.
And it's not a bad movie.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
No, it just feels like it's almost there.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Yeah, it's just a bit of a misopportunity, a little
underwhelming because you don't get the development you need to
really sell this shit.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
I have ADHD brain. I always say, you know, these
three hour movies way too long. Yeah, two and a
half hour movies. Pushing it.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
It's too long too, but it's the time.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
I feel like they could have used another ten minutes
of character development. Yeah, and it would have been a
lot heavier hitting at the end.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Yeah. I think there's two ways to go with the ending.
Like I think Ginger killing him hits way harder, way harder.
The one relationship that's almost there that you almost feel
is Ginger and her dad. Like that relationship is the
most developed in the film. We're like kind of getting there.
We're almost there. Charlotte and Blake, You're like, whatever, but

(39:56):
you go that route. Had Ginger be forced into being
the one to pull the trigger, you get that? Or
while like he while he's attacking Charlotte, Ginger goes to
stop him or puts you know, tries to slow him down,
and by putting a hand on her forehead or on
Blake's forehead again try to read his mind, and then
he ends up attacking her and it puts her into

(40:18):
like she's about to die. It's fatal. And because I
was waiting for like, is there a way? Is there
a way to recover from this? Is there a way
to be cured of being a wolf? Because I was wondering,
is true love the cure? Is his love for his
daughter going to be the cure? That would have been
cheesy as shit. I would have gone that route. I
think ginger killing him is way more powerful. But I thought, like, yeah,

(40:39):
maybe he accidentally almost kills or almost kills his daughter
and that's what lends him leading to the cure.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
I don't know, like you have to pass it on,
pass it on, survive the night.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Could he don't know?

Speaker 1 (40:56):
So, yeah, it's got fifty percent on Rotten Tomatoes at
this time and a six point one on IMDb. Yeah,
and I think that's like that's about right, Yeah, I said,
I said three out of five, Yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
I said six out of ten, which those are the
same thing. Yeah, So I was wondering if it would
change when we talk about it more in depth, but
I still six out of ten feels right absolutely.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
And like we said in the spoiler free review. Uh,
this is this is one we can rewatch. I'm not
dying to go to the theater to rewatch it again.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, you know what it reminds me of just something
that is kind of similar to it's a fun time,
but the characters are not quite there. You're not really
what the performances are good? You know, you know what
I'm thinking, you know what I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Maybe you can you guess, try to guess.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
I'm curious. It's a suicide Squad. It's kind of like
Suicide Squad. Oh, where it's like that's not a good movie. No,
it's not a good movie, but it's a fun watch
and entertaining watch, and like, this movie has a lot
less flaws than that movie, but it's kind of like
that where it's a good time. If you hate Suicide
Squad nor what I just said, because it's I I
was one that enjoyed watching that movie in theaters. I

(42:06):
was like, Oh, that was fun. That was kind of
what I thought it was gonna be. Wolf Man's like
the same way. It's like, oh that's fun, but yeah,
it's not great. It's not a blockbuster by any means.
It's not it's not an Oscar Winner. No, but I
can rewatch it for sure. Yeah, because it's so short
with when it came to the Invisible Man. Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
I like it every more and more every time I've
watched it. So maybe maybe wolf Man will be the
same way.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
I actually think it's a movie I'm gonna like less
every time I watch it because the action is good
and entertaining. It's not good enough where it's like this
is groundbreaking action. I need to watch all the time.
So every time it's gonna be reminded that I'm like, God, damn,
these characters aren't there. It's I get more frustrated. So
maybe once a year, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
When the next one comes out. Thinking of which, when
is the next one? It's not far right? What what
is the next Frankenstein Next? I don't know if that's
technically part of it? Dark army Frankenstein.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yeah, who's doing Frankenstein?

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Isomic Bonster Universal?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
You haven't know who's directing it? Uh, isn't somebody relevant?
Somebody big? Kind of Uh?

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Nothing I'm seeing at this time.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I thought that was there was just an announcement about it.
Might be that might be stupid. Maybe I got I
got that like a low carb diet brain currently and
you know it kills me.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Yeah, hm hmmm. Apparently Wolfman was supposed to Dwayne the
Rock Johnson as the Wolfman. Uh an early early development, like.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Just like just to be the wolf itself or to be.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Blake probably I probably both, which that got scrapped way
way too long ago.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
You know what the other movie we forgot about that
we were talking about earlier, The Bride?

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh yeah, The Bride comes out this year, which might
be a musical or might have some musical elements. I
I think, I think so fring Sign. Is there a
fig movie come out on Netflix this year?

Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh, Gamba del Toro? Yes, I remember now, Gamel del Toro.
It's all come together. Yeah, well, I don't know if
that's I don't know if it's like officially part of
the Dark Universe. I assume it is, since it's literally
Franks Sign but.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
Dark Universe next. I spelled everything wrong. I was only
half looking at the screen. Uh no officially confirmed playing
So okay, so this is.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
Just something different. Must be Garma de Toros. It's coming
out on Netflix. Yeah, it must be.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
It's just something just out there. It's it's yeah, Toro
so that makes sense, I guess.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Based on the original novel.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
I'm looking at screen rant that's how that's how sad
my my existence is right now. Yeah, but I mean
there's definitely potential just get a little more character development
in there. And for the next one, well, I.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Think they're kind of I'm actually surprised they're not doing
more characters that are more accurate to their new world
at Universal Studios, the the Epic universe that they're doing there,
because they have a whole new section devoted to the
Universal monsters that are unique new takes on those characters.

(45:49):
I'm surprised not trying to do films that look like
those animatronics that they've built, you know, but they're very
old school. No, I don't want to say stereotypical, but
like the looks that we know of those characters. That's
what they're kind of doing, just a bit of a
modern vibe to it. Yeah, so we're not even like
close to that so far.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Also, we we mentioned this in the spoiler free review.
The marketing mm hmm uh. They revealed the logo and
the look of the Werewolf wolf Man at Halloween Hornites yep,
which why that's an interesting way to be h Whenell

(46:30):
described the the design reveal at Halloween Hornites as a debacle,
Oh wow, Universal did it without discussing it with him
or the film's makeup artist. He Wentelle unsuccessfully tried to
stopping it by calling Jason Blum and retorted that it
was like judging Freddy Krueger makeup by a costume at

(46:51):
Spirit Halloween.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Totally fair, totally fair.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
So that's interesting that Whenel called Blum and said, what
the hell stop?

Speaker 2 (47:03):
It was Jason Blum's call. What he featured like one
of the Blum uh, one of the Blum shows, the
Blumhouse shows, member like the one we went to.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
He was walking around. I think the Wolfman was walking around.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
That's so stupid. How fuck how that's the kind of
shit I'm talking about. That's like the exact kind of
shit I'm talking about that Blum does. And you're like,
what were you thinking? Sometimes they're like, Eh, they got it.
They're sitting on gold and they nailed it. And then
sometimes they do the dumbest shit ever like that. That
is stupid. Why I don't get it. I don't understand it,

(47:37):
Like where's the thought process coming from? But yeah, I'm
gladly called him out. If that was if that was
Blum's decision, you know, it could maybe Universal was involved.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, what's the source? Lee Wentel at New York City
Comic Gun said that, Sorry, good, So that's a that's
an interesting source. I think I believe it. Yeah, oh,
screen ran article. Oh but yeah, I never saw it.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
I never saw that hollow Horn Night's reveal and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
I think I just saw a quick picture and I
scrolled right by it to the comments.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I do recall the logo, which means nothing.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Yeah, I remember, I recall that.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
But I never saw the the design.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Twenty five million dollar budget.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
Well they're gonna make that bad well, I don't know.
I mean they're gonna make that money back. Yeah, it's
just how much they're gonna prove it, because you really
need to before you start looking at green be where
you start looking at profit, you need to make double that.
So they need to make at least fifty million, and
then we'll see.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
It's probably it'll probably be a hundred million Wolfman Box
Office Mojo. Yeah, nothing for Thursday screen and.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Is already probably they'll probably have been one hundred million,
maybe a little bit more. Oh for sure, that's probably
what they'll be.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, box Office Mojo is by IMDb. I didn't know that. Yeah,
sad IMDb pro to be specific. It used to be
they email me all the time, trying to get me
to come back after they charged me. After I canceled.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
They probably emailed me too. But it's on my Yahoo email,
which has about one hundred thousand done ready emails.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
It's the void just gone.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Yeah, it just could be anything.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
All things considered. Not the worst movie we could have
saw on to kick off the year. Oh absolutely, not
in theaters for our theaters.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
I've come back. It's what's the day today, the sixteenth. Okay,
I've already seen five movies worse than this this year,
and I've only seen like twelve movies this year.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Ooh ooh oh. Usually usually at the beginning we talked
about what we watched. Well, maybe next time.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
I don't have anything anyway. I watched, well, I watched
the front Room for Rabbit and Red. I watched yesterday
last night. This I already for. It was called what
did I tell you guys? It was called Discovery of Something.
Sure I can find it, but yeah, it's a Netflix

(50:11):
movie I watched. Besides it was at Netflix movie. It
was a movie on Netflix.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Besides time Cut. I watched carry On.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Oh yeah, you finally watched it? Did you like it?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (50:22):
You know?

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Okay, what did I give it? Oh? I gave it
four stars? Was I drunk?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Probably not?

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Maybe three and a half stars.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
Disappearance on Clifton Hill. Who it was? I don't know.
It was confusing because they just throw so much at
you at once.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I was like, okay, carry On. Apparently I liked it.
I gave it four stars. Maybe maybe more like three
or three and a half. I watched Tucker and Daliever's Evil.
I see that popular Friends stuck in Dalever's Evil. Yeah,
so you gave it a five?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Huh? Because I only get only get popular friends if
it's a five.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
No, I gave it four four.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
That's just so uh.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
And then I watched foul Fall again, Yeah it was
it was up next and then and then I watched
Jerry and Marge go large with Brian Cranston about how
they play the lottery. He's a math whiz and so
they play the lottery. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gave it
four stars. Apparently I was on a four star streak.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Loved it.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
I actually do do. I like heisty movies, so like
that kind of fits right in. And then I watched
the Age of Adeline.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Oh how is that?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I liked it. I gave it three and a half stars. Yeah,
you watched it as well, at some point you gave
it three and a half stars. Age of Adeline has
Harrison Ford, it's Blake Lively and she can't die or
she does an age.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
I recall it now.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
Yeah, I saw it on a YouTube short. I saw
a clip. I'm like, I'm in back when I was
reviewing everything I watched, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
Trying to do right now.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
And then I watched Inheritance, which one's that. It's the
girl whose dad is Patrick Warburton and he dies and
then he leaves his son is the Deep from the Boys,
who's a politician, leaves him all this money and then
leaves his daughter a secret. And it's a guy chained

(52:19):
up in a bunker. Simon Pegg is chained up in
a bunker, and she he knows the whole family story,
all the secrets, and it's yeah, it's her figuring out
what to.

Speaker 2 (52:34):
Do with him.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Huh, Yeah, it was okay. I thought the ending was
a little cheap. I gave it three stars.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
My twelve things I've watched so far this year, I'll
just go through them fast. Ready, Trap Time, Cut, Squid Game, Thanksgiving,
Bad Future One, Bad Feature two Back Future three, Jingle
All the Way, Juror to I Know which last Summer,
The front Room, disappearance on Clifton Hill, wolf Man. There
you go. That's thirteen thirteen.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
I said in my news resolution, I'm trying to watch
at least or I'm trying to watch six films a
week on average.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
It's a lot.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Right now, it's the sixteenth and I've watched eight.

Speaker 2 (53:13):
Remember how I said I had a goal to read more.
I said, I only I left the goal low at
one book a month. I read a book this month.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Oh so you're done.

Speaker 2 (53:21):
I did it done until March. There's a there's a
book I'm waiting because I would already be starting another one.
But there's a book i'm waiting on. It was written
my friend of mine that's not here yet. I don't
know why it's taking us a fucking long. They ordered
it forever ago. But yeah, so I'm trying. I want
to read that to hopefully it's good and I can
maybe give you a little bit of a marketing boost.

(53:42):
We'll see. I don't know if I read a movie
call or I read I read a movie. I read
a book called Horror Movie. Yeah, Horror Movie by Paul Trembley,
who wrote the book that Knocked the Cabinet is based
on Oh okay, yeah, One thing I will tell you
about the book some review for members. Actually, that's kind
of what I'm gonna do. A little little flesh, little club,

(54:03):
little flash club.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
You know, I can't read, so sorry.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
But Paul Trembley does not like Caine Hotter. Oh there's
a whole thing about horror conventions in there, and it's
very obviously stabbing at Caine Hotter.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Oh he told me that.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Yeah, but it's interesting. So at the end of the book,
after the book is over, he has a breakdown of
all the chapters and kind of explains him in more
detail from his personal standpoint. I was like, oh, man,
I wonder if he talks about how they're friends. Now
he's poking fun at Kane. Hodder doesn't mention Kane at
all in that same or in the in that chapter

(54:37):
he interesting, he explains some of you know what's funny.
Remember I told you, guys, I messaged you and Chase
about this. I was like, both of them are at
Scares that Care weekend. I bet you he had a
bad experience with Caine and Scares that Care in twenty nineteen.
And that's what uh, that's what that was about. He
was making fun of Kane and I in that in
that thing, He's like, obviously the convention in the book,

(55:00):
which I think is called Scare, scarecre something scary or
something like that. Now you just like, obviously it's inspired
by Scares that Care. Because I was there in twenty nineteen.
I'm like, you, motherfucker. I knew you were talking shit
about Kane. So for that reason, the book sucks. That
was a I have issues with the book, but it
was a fun read.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
I gotta I gotta watch more movies.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I do, gotta read more books.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Who I can't read.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
There's something I'm sorry to keep rambling. I'm sorry. That's
that's literally the point of the show where we started
this podcast to talk about this kind of bullshit.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Yeah, so we appreciate if you're here.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, the there are certain things that books can do
in with horror well in general, but there's certain things
that books to do that movies can't. It sounds so
much like because your brain makes things scarier, which it does,
like some books can be scarier for that reason. But
if you've ever read the I Know what You Did
Last Summer book, it's a perfect example of, like you,
that's not possible in a movie. Yep, you can't do

(55:59):
that in a movie. So yeah, I don't want to
spoil it because I think you guys should read it.
It's a fun reading, but yeah, you cannot do that.
You cannot reveal the killer the way they do in
the book in a movie. It's not possible, right, So,
like you, just it's a little bit different. It's different.
And the book I just read, The Horror movie by
Paul Trembley goes from being in present day to the

(56:21):
past to being in a script. Oh yeah, it's like
the movie is about a or the book is about
a movie that was made. It actually reminds me of
the Dead by Daylight, super Massive game, you know casting, Yeah,
Frank Zone casting a Frank Stone reminds me of the
I wrote the movies. I had the posed to write
the murder mil Yeah, Murder Mill. It's like that. It's

(56:42):
a movie that has like shit went wrong on set,
the movie never came out, and now all these years
later they want to remake it, and this dude that
was in the movie is still around and went it
was like a curse set that kind of thing. So
you go from reading the script of the movie that
never came out to being in the past and experiencing

(57:04):
them making it, and then being in the present and
kind of the process of him talking to Hollywood to
get a remake done. It's really interesting. It's really the
only kind of thing you could do that in the movie,
but not the same way. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
That's why you read books. My whole rantier is read
books because you can get more, You can get more
out of the genre that he wouldn't be able to before.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
Good Pitch.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
Yeah, go check it out, although there are better books,
because again, that book was little, it was it was
all right, it was okay. The ending sucks in my opinion.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
So, uh, next week, do you know what we're doing?

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Is it the I know, recasting or is that the week? No? No,
is it in the deep, Into the deep, Into the deep?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Assuming that it comes out on digital on Friday.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
I'm pretty sure it does.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Our episode should be out on Saturday, yeah, unless something
goes terribly wrong with their distribution.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah. So Into the Deep with Scout, Taylor Compton, and
Richard Dreyfuss. He's in it probably for three minutes, I
would yeah, less, definitely less than five minutes of screen time. Yeah,
for sure.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's a shark movie.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
But they blow my mind. He can be in there
a lot.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Pretty cool Scout's hat.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
So Scout in a wet suit is fine by me.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
That's why I made the list.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
How old is Scout now?

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I don't know. Scout Taylor Cout.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
She's gotta be hold on educated guests. I'm guessing she
was twenty one when she made Halloween. She tanta have
been a little older. I'm gonna say twenty one. That
was twenty years ago. Dude, she's gotta be like thirty nine.
She's thirty five, thirty five? How old was she? Seventeen?
She's seventeen. Robin thought he was Halloween.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
Born in eighty nine. Her birthday's coming up? Oh, have
birthday in February February twenty first, nineteen eighty nine.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Yeah, so she was. She was seventeen seventeen while shooting
rob Zomies Halloween. Maybe maybe turn eighteen on set something
like that. I don't know. She's a young lady.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, she is younger than I thought. I thought she
was forty good Fir and Danielle.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Wait, wait thirty five forty forty six? Are you sure
I'll tell you why? I know? In a second?

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Why is things?

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I want to find out? Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:38):
Oh, I thought, no, I found out.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Oh it's in forty six.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
Okay, So it says June first, nineteen seventy seven, so
she's forty seven. However, you go on Wikipedia, which is
always right, and it says no date. It just says
nineteen seventy six or seventy seven, so she's either forty
seven or forty eight. But then, but then, like Google,
AI said, as June first, Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
I shouldn't you know? Why I fight? So the math
I was doing, I knew she turned she turned ten,
or maybe you know she turned eleven on the set
of Halloween four, So that's what I was doing. The
math on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
A lot of places say June first, but Wikipedia doesn't,
so who knows? It also doesn't know the year it says,
it says seventy six or seventy seven.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I'm sure we could figure it out. It's crazy. I
know somebody I can ask correct. Let me just text
Danielle real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh yep, So yeah, that's what's uh, that's what's coming.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
To you next week. It's probably gonna be bad.

Speaker 1 (01:00:44):
I'm glad anyone is still here listening.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It'd probably it doesn't be worse than wolf Man, oh
for sure. Something right now, it's gonna be worse than Woven?
And then what was that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
The week after is the I know what you did
last summer recasting?

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Which that might That might change, by the way, because uh,
I think there's another movie that I found that comes
out that week that might be worth her time. I
can't rera what it is, so I might not ever
find it again, I say, companion. It could be. I don't,
I don't remember. We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
We also have a commentary this month at some point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yeah, right now, let's see it. Right now, let's get
over with.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
What time is it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Oh? Okay, that's it. Thank you so much for watching
this episode of makeing Over of the Counter. Listen to
this episode Making of Account. It's been fun. Uh leave review,
follow that kind of thing. I want to watch a
video version coming number on YouTube. If you're watching on YouTube,
thanks appreciate you and with that, as always, thank you

(01:01:44):
so much for listening and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Hid You Rise from the movie Screenajeries from the horror screen,
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