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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Slashing Cast behind a mask.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It could be anything, something to make you scream, something
you've never seen.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
God lacking knife snare, could.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Be some mead you iss you'd never been chosen for
the slasher Seed.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Not your right, your holi fathful fish watch to take
a bow? The slashing caspltel dot com all about tell
me every death count?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
What's happening? Love is what's going on. We're gonna get tropical.
We're gonna get tropical. Welcome back to another episode of
Make Every Death Count, brought to you by the Slashing
Cast podcast Network, where your hosts.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
My name is Riley, my name is Nick.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Sorry we missed last week. All right, it was the
audio is bad. We recorded an episode.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
It was two hours long.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
It was like a two hour long episode. I had
a star of the Fall Camp Blood in here, Ethan Spickler.
It was all. It was a very personable conversation. It
was not like it was super deep or anything, but
it was like a lot less horrid, a lot more us. Yeah.
We were chilling, yeah, chilling, vibe it in here talking
about random stuff. It was a good time.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Unfortunately, because Ethan had a separate microphone and for whatever
reason you can't on a roadcaster video that tracks don't separate,
so I couldn't fix it. There was a little bit
of reverb. It sounded bad, and you know, God, I
just didn't want to put out an episode where you
couldn't listen for more than thirty seconds before shutting it off. Dah.
So I decided it's gonna go into the archives, never
(01:40):
be heard from again. Yeah, gone, gone for good, gone gone,
Just like your dog. My dog's dead that right over
the car and had just drove in.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Everyone around you is dying.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
That's from I do, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Scare Movie three, Yeah, the best scary movie, right.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
Yeah, just thow we're talking about Scary Movie five.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah. I think I saw Scarm Movie five in theaters.
I'm pretty sure I did. No. I saw Scarm Movie
four in theaters with my mom and my brother, which
I think i'd only been when that movie come out.
Scary More Movie four O six ten. I went with
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my brother and my mom, and the only good scene
in that movie really was the opening scene with Shaq
and doctor Phil. Yeah, it's a good time. After that,
I don't know, fell apart pretty quick, but I do
like scim Movie three. It's not the best. The first
is the best. Yeah, but it might. I might like
three more than two. Really, I think two went a
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little too stupid. Oh like, I don't know, not, I
don't know, I don't know. I still love too and
I'll put it on. I'll laugh of a good time.
It's just not nearly as good as the first in
my opinion, in support it. Okay, This week we're talking
about Heart Eyes, a brand new release just came out today.
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Technically last night. We went and saw this morning at
ten forty five a m. Well on Friday morning. This
will probably come out on Saturday. But yeah, I'm super
excited going into this one. Heart Eyes to get another
Valentine's Day slasher, I'm all four. It's got some serious competition.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Though.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You can't just come in here and kick out my
bloody Valentine.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
You see the hat.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can't just come out here and
get rid of my bloody Valentine, both the original and
the remake Valentine. You know, Marley Sheldon Angel was in there.
You have to make a very intentional Angel joke in
Valentine's No, I don't guys, yeah, you haven't seen Valentine
get into the freculent, But what's his face that plays
(03:53):
Angel and Buffy? You know she has a Marley Sheldon's
a line in there that's like, well, come on, he's
no Angel, but I'm like.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
But he is.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
He is al.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
There's a few ones that I either haven't heard of
or just kind of either haven't heard of, missed or
just haven't really thought of. Hospital Massacre. There's a Cupid
Holidays Lover's Lane. Yeah, okay, uh, they have Raisin Caine
on here, which is kind of crazy maybe. And then yeah,
(04:31):
there's a there's a few other ones that I've either
never heard of or are very indie on this letter
box list that I found just curious about Valentine's Day movies. Yeah,
you might have to check him out. A little Valentine's
Day and in August.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Sure, perfect, now hard eyes until you it's gonna it's
gonna be in my Valentine's stage tradition. Now, same, it's
a fall right in line with movies like Thanksgiving. You know,
I'm all for the Holiday Slasher Comeback. I love it.
I'm big into it. I'm all for the Christopher Landon
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you know, scream like we're trying to be scream vibes,
comedy and horror mixed together. I'm all for that. Yep,
I will say for heart Eyes, because I've already seen
reviews that are are saying this that it leans a
little too into the funny.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
It is.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
It is a comedy horror, all right, it's not so
much a horror comedy. And I think for this for
Valentine's Day, especially because of the romance that's in this movie,
I am totally fine with it. I think this is
the holiday for if you're gonna lean into the funny
a little bit more. I think this is a holiday
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for it.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
It it was everything that I thought it was gonna be.
I thought it was gonna be more comedy than horror
and more horror than romance.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Yeah. Yeah, I nothing shocked to me in the movie.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It was.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
It was exactly what I thought I was gonna be.
It was, especially the trailers, if you watch the full trailers,
I did stop doing that. I didn't. I shut it
off after thirty seconds because I knew where we were
going here and we were about to get all the
kills spoiled. Which hearing some reviews on this movie. It
sounds like that's exactly what happened, that the best kills
in the movie were spoiled in the trailer. Stop watching
(06:29):
full trailers. I'm telling you watch teasers. If you see
a official trailer, you see that label on a trailer,
don't watch the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Yeah, I really nitpick when I watched my trailers recently. Honestly,
I think I might just stop all together.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
They just I don't know why we forgot how to
market horror movies without spoiling the whole movie. Yeah, don't
get it. Terrified is fine. They don't spoil their best kills.
So why is it like Blumhouse especially is notorious for
just spoiling the whole movie. And now, like if you
look at what is it, drop yeah, drop, Yeah, like that.
(07:13):
I feel like a lot of that movie I spoiled
in the trailer.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yeah we we, or at least I stopped watching with
like thirty seconds left, like right when the music started
to go and build up, I'm like, just I turn
it off. Yeah right, they just kept I already saw
so much.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Yeah, and apparently that's the same thing with Hard Eyes.
I didn't I'm glad I shut the trailer off on this.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
One, but I don't even I think I saw a teaser.
I don't know if I ever saw any part of
the full trailer, which.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, apparently, by the way, this is a spoiler review.
It saysn't the title, but just in case right now,
I'm I'm about to say a spoiler. So, but the
the kill in the back of the van with the.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
What is it a tyron?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I guess it was a ty iron. It was a
very thick tyre iron. But yes, that that kill was
in the whole thing was in the trailer.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
That that's disappointing.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, like what are you doing? Why? Why?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Why?
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Stop doing things like that? That was a cool kill. Yeah,
so this was another I mean, he's written by Philip Murphy,
but Christopher land was also a writer, and Michael Kennedy
and Michael Kennedy can't forget that. But Christopher Landen, he's
got a vibe. Man, he's got a style, and I
think the second you see Christopher landin you should just
prepare yourself either then that to me, that's always a
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great thing. I love his style. I love pretty much
everything that Landon's ever written. So I'm all in for it.
But then Josh Rubin also directed, and I think that's
being overlooked a little bit. Josh Rubin of College Humor,
very funny guy, has a cameo which I appreciated.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Yeah, he did the horror comedy Scare Me and and
were Wolves Within. Yeah, their horror comedies. Yeah, what what
did you expect? Of course, it's gonna be comedy. He's funny.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Yeah, So I think if you went in with the
right mentality as a result of who's work on this movie,
I think you'd enjoy it. But if you're going into
this movie thinking it's gonna be more horror than comedy,
it might fall flat for you. But for us, I
knew while watching it. I was like, yeah, this was
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made for us.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Absolutely, It's Christopher Landon. It's gonna be comedy, it's gonna
have some horror in it.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah. Like ten minutes in, I'm like, yeah, here we go.
I also I like the look of heart eyes. Yeah,
the heart Eyes Killer. I was a little nervous about
it when I first saw the first trailer, Like the
eyes light up and they're literally just hearts. You know,
it seems kind of cheesy once you see it being
chased or something. Actually kind of badass about the hard
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eyes mask.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Yeah, I to be honesty. When I first saw it,
I'm like, oh, man, how are they gonna introduce that? Like, oh,
you know, he's killing on Valentine's Day and then he
decides to wear hearts. The way the movie arts is
he's already the whole world knows about him.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, which is super cool, by the way, And that's
actually like, it might be my biggest complaint of the
movie because I think the idea of him already being
an established killer that has killed a shit ton of
people across the country. It was like not across the country,
guess because it was Philadelphia, Boston. I don't know if
it went anywhere in the Midwest. I know Philadelphia and
(10:24):
Boston for sure. That then now is in Seattle in
the film takes place in Seattle. I just the idea
of like a killer across the country like that is
so cool, but it's it's really not important in the movie,
the fact that this is not a countrywide killer like this.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
No, it's an interesting approach because like the towns are
every the whole country is preparing, like is the HK
Killer gonna be in our town this year.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, so there's that, I guess. So I guess you
get people more on alert, couple scared to go out,
that kind of thing, But beyond that, they don't really
beyond people knowing that he only goes for couples that
kind of thing, there's no real point for this the
Killer to be known across the country. And and because
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of that, it kind of makes me question the whole movie.
And like, because we get to the reveal, sorry to
just jump all the way to the end, but there's
like a thruttle thing going on. Okay, so you have
Jordana Brewster who plays Shaw. She's fantastic, yes, love her
to death, yes. And then you have whatever what was
(11:36):
the other guy's even name. He's not even like on
IMDb because they're avoiding spoilers. Dave. His name is Dave, right,
the IT guy. Maybe I see exactly. They're they're keeping
things kind of secret right now. They're keeping the IMDb
limited and that's why. So I'm pretty sure his name
is Dave. But this guy that we see in one
(11:58):
scene there you go, this guy was seeing one scener
in the movie that dude talks to Jesus Christ. Why
am i Alli? Yes, Ali and Jay it's coming back.
I'm bad with names, okay, but yeah, he talks. He
talks to Alley for one scene in the police department,
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and then you just kind of don't see him at
all the rest of the movie. Then all of a sudden,
he's the killer at the end, he's dating Shaw, and
then they have a fan who is a copycat version
of them, even though they were helping him out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Yeah, it was really really interesting when they revealed him
as the Hard Eyes Killer.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Eli, Right, are you talking about Dave David No? Eli?
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Right, I'm not sure it was part of their thrupple
who was a fan of the Hard Eyes Killer. Yeah,
And they pulled the mask off and Mason Good and
falls out. Who the fuck is that guy?
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Yeah? Right, and we're like I was thinking, I was
thinking that they might do that and that actually might
be the end. I didn't think we actually get to
reveal a killer because it didn't make sense to reveal
a killer because the killer is countrywide, Like, why would
it be somebody that she knows and has a motive
against her, against Ali or Jay unless it was Jay specifically,
(13:27):
But Otherwise, why would this killer have a motive that's
specific to her because they shouldn't be living in Seattle.
There shouldn't be somebody who's a local.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Right, Which still doesn't really make sense that the full reveal.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
That's exactly what I'm saying, Like, because this was a
countrywide killer, why is it that Shaw? Why would she, ever,
as a detective in Seattle, make the decision to do
the killings in her hometown right and where she is located.
It didn't make sense to me. So the twist and
where they go with it and the reveal, so I
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thought that was a little convoluted. It was a little
like forced, a little bit uh. And again, like I
think a lot of that's a result of if you
start to put the story together and the the killer
being countrywide and how are they here? How are they there? Right,
it starts to get a little messy. But again with
this movie, if you're gonna be over critical like that,
you're not gonna enjoy it, I promise, because it's got
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a lot of things that are dumb in it, but
they're like fun dumb. Yeah, there are a lot of
the chase scenes, for example, which are fun, but they
lose intensity as a result of the humor.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Yeah, that's a fair point when you look back at it,
Like for we when at least when I was in
there watching it for the first time, like, I didn't
have a problem with it. Now that it's sort of
settled a little bit my brain, I'm like, yeah, it
does sort of take you out of that that moment
a little bit.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
But also we're not ones to be like.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Right, And I don't think there was ever a point
where I thought jay Ally would die. No, Like, I
never felt that tension. And so them having little comedic
moments mid chase, Yeah, it didn't really bother me, but
I could see how it would take somebody out if
they were trying to be scared of this. But I
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was never expecting for there to be these and super
intense scary scenes. It's not like like my buddy Valentine
goes for intense chase scenes, yes, and that stay grounded,
you know, I just never expected that with this. I
don't know, I had the perfect mentality going into this
movie same where it just worked out for me. But
(15:40):
I could see how a lot of that shit that
goes on in the movie can be dumb. Yeah, I mean,
and then there's the romance side of it in general. Uh,
I don't know. I didn't. It didn't feel super forced
to me.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, I agree, it did not. It was a lot
of people are like, it's it's so unbelievable just the
way that they're treating each other that they would end
up falling in love at the end. And I don't agree.
I just don't like it was. Both of them were growing.
The character arcs were actually pretty good, all right.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
That's what keeps you invested in the most is the
fact that you give a shit about them, about Ali
and Jay. Yeah, and Mason Gooding really helps. I fucking
love that guy. I don't I want to be his
best friend.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
When I when I saw him for the first time
in this movie, I was like, oh man, I want
him in every Hallmark movie and I'll start watching him.
It just yeah, he he definitely. I mean, Olivia Holt
is great as well, but Mason Gooding definitely brought a lot.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
To this movie. Yeah. Yeah, he just it feels like
he's playing himself most of the time. Yes, you know
like that, just seeing the character he felt like Mason.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Well and it's It's interesting because he comes in. He's,
you know, the the love interests that you're like, Okay,
she's gonna get together with, you know, or we're rooting
for her to get together with, and she shutting him down.
He's he's just himself. He's just the common man. He's goofy,
he's awkward, he's funny, he's hot. It seems a little
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weird at first that he's willing to kind of stick
with her despite her kind of being shitty at first.
I think he I think that was part of it.
He no matter what he she said, she would push
him away and he's like, all right, you know, I understand,
I understand, and he's chill. And then finally when she
abandons him, he's like, what the fuck you abandoned me?
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Well, he tried to leave the restaurant too, like she
She did end up pushing too far and he walked
away respectfully. Yeah, but then she apologized and they were
fine and it seemed okay. But she I was I
was kind of glad they brought up the fact that
she did just abandon him because I was thinking, I
was like, damn, you could have definitely helped him just now,
so I'm glad that was kind of an actual plot
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point where it's like you left me, what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (17:58):
And yeah, her her arc going from hating Valentine's Day
and love and all that stuff, and she had just
been out of a relationship like that arc to the end.
And then same with Jay's where's he's chill? He's Chilly's
chill and he's like, all right, that's enough, but he's
still sticking with this person all they get the work done.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, I like it was kind of weird to me
at first that he was so patient with her and
calm with her. But when you get the background of
his parents that they were so shitty to each other,
I think her showing the same attitude as his parents
like motivated him to want to fix her. She was
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a fixer up, you know. Maybe, so if you want
to look deep into the script and this character development,
maybe you could find a reason why they both did
what they did. Yeah, because character arc.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, I mean, Jay is a he works in the
the love industry, the romance industry, so of course he's
gonna be pretty suave, and he's like the guy like
we brought a consultant here to save our ass or
our company is going to go under. It's this guy.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
He's the guy by the way for Ali's campaign that
got shipped on that everybody hated. I kind of loved it.
It was pretty good. People would I mean, I guess
it's not good for selling jewelry, but they're that commercial
of them recreating iconic couples dying, like couples trauma. What
all they have in there? They had Romeo and Juliette,
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and they had Bonnie and Clyde. Bonnie and Clyde was
in there. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. I
think there's a use for this trailer somewhere. I just
don't know if it's commercial somewhere, but not so much
for selling jewelry. I don't really know where she was
going with that. I want to know what they did
to fix it, because you get to the end of
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the movie and this company whatever it was called, Yeah,
they broke broke all their records. So what they do,
I mean, what they should have done is ride the
coattails of the drama. You know the fact that they
were heroes and they.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
Killed hard eyes. Maybe they did.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I'd probably just use them as a couple. I
love the fact that at the end when they're they
go to the drive in, which is a little weird
a little bit because they technically it's their fault kind
of that so many people died at that drive in.
Speaker 4 (20:31):
Right because they brought the killer there and he was
only focused on them, but killing everyone that gets in
the way.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Yeah. Yeah, we got that close up with that news earlier.
They said he will kill anyone that gets in his way. Yep,
that's right, and see came back, came back. Yeah. So
they go there at the end of the movie, at
the drive in again and they she he is giving
her a key, inviting him to come live with him,
which I'm shocked that they aren't living with each other,
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just saying, and then she ends up proposing him and
ask him to marry her. I like that. She she
did something earlier in the movie where I was like, oh,
she is the man in this relationship, and I can't
remember what she did because I was thinking when she
when she put out the ring to propose, I'm like, yes,
like this totally makes sense, it totally fits her character.
I can't remember what she did or in the movie
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that was like the traditional man thing to do. I
can't remember what it was that she did. Man, we
gotta go watch it again and I'll figure it out.
Because she did something where I was thinking that I
was like, oh, she is the man in this relationship.
She's doing man stereotypical things. And then she ends up
proposing at the end. I'm like, okay, so that was intentional.
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Whatever she did earlier. I wish I remember. I got
brain fog from dieting. You cut your carbs out of
your diet for a week and all of a sudden,
your brain goes with it. But yeah, I'll watch it again.
I'll try to get my wife to go for Valentine's
Day and I will. I will put it him in
this and come back to it. Don't forget.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
I'd really like to say it again, so if anyone
wants to go with me, Valentine's doing.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Weaker, Yeah, but yeah, in general, man, I did. I
really enjoyed it. It's it's absolutely going to be probably
more than just Valentine's saying, because I watched Thanksgiving like
once a week, So I'll just put hard Eyes in
the mix I want. I already have an original poster.
I bought one in preparation for this movie to be good,
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and now it is good, and those prices are gonna
go up. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I would love to get a mask. Yeah, I got it.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I want a hero so bad.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Yeah, I want to I want to screen used.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Yeah, whoever, whoever is a hero Hard Eyes mask out there,
which I I I know one person that I could
text who probably has access to one, but he'll never
let me have it, so probably not. Yeah, I would.
I'd like one a lot, but even either way, like
when someone ends up sculpting one and making a good one,
not tots preferably because this isn't be a trick you
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want to do, right, you just tell it's super well
made mask. I'm gonna buy it, so hit me up.
Sculptors out there.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Absolutely, Yeah, it's got It got one point one million
uh in its opening Thursday. And Love Hurts, which was
also in theaters. That's fun too, that's got that got
eight hundred k. So Hard Eyes edged it out a
little bit.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Horror winds.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
It's Love Hurt. It's rated R as well, more more
action comedy though than a than horror. People people were
saying when it was announced, They're like, it's an action
horror comedy and then when the trailer came after, like
scratch that it's just action comedy.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, they put out a BTS featurette that very clearly
it's it's action comedy. It's there's no horror.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
I don't think I'll I'll watch it for sure when
it comes out. But uh, but now I'm not going
to the theater for it. I'd rather go see Hard
Eyes again, honestly true. Yeah, so so it edged out
a little bit. It's a It's got eighty three percent
on Roun Tomatoes as of now.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, to so you shouldn't be watching this if you
haven't seen the movie, right, but just for more clarification,
like just how this movie is meant to be funny
and meant to be like have some dumb comedy in there.
When Jay goes back to Ali's apartment, her dildo, her
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vibrator is over on the her bedside table, and it
was already one thing having it there and her having
to find a way to hide it from Jay, so
it's not like, so that's already funny. But then she
the killer Hard Eyes ends up being in the closet
and she throws the vibrator at Hard Eyes and like
hits in the chest with it, then we cut back
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to it vibrating on the ground. So like, that's that's
what this movie is. And I know it's this is riding.
It's trying to replicate in a way the same tone
of scream.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
It is.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Like, I agree that it is doing that, there's no
doubt about it. This has meant to be like a
meta horror comedy like that, but at the same time,
it's so far into comedy that I calling it a
scream ripoff and saying it's just not doing it as well.
I don't think it's very fair.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
No, it's like it's a it's a Christopher Landon movie.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, and Christopher Landon obviously a scream fan, Yeah, obviously
likes that style of filmmaking, but he leans into the
comedy a little bit more. And I don't think that
this is a screen ripoff. I don't.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
It's it's similar in genre in style, but that's a
so Wikipedia has it listed as a romantic comedy slasher.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Film, romantic comedy slasher film.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Yeah, I think it's more comedy. It's a common rob horror, yeah,
or comm horror rom romance is kind of apply point,
not like the genre movie. You know what I mean?
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
Sure, Like, well, when you when you see romance like
romantic film, I wouldn't call it that per se correct, Yeah,
but there's romance in there, right. This is because the
character arc. That's why I think Hard Eye is gonna
being special and it's gonna end up living on and
being watched every year. Yes, it's got a cool killer.
(26:29):
Yes it has some good kills in there, but it's
not like the twist is so mind blowing that it
makes you come back to it. You like the characters,
You like Ali and Jay, you like Olivia and Mason.
They both have great performances. Then they're likable characters, yep,
and they have an arc and it all works out.
That's why cheesy ass rom coms always do well. That's
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why they make so much money. And yeah, I get
a little blood in it.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Yeah, I wonder if we get a we get a
sequel to Hard Eyes.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
You can't.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
He's gonna do well, it's gonna make it, It's gonna
make money.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Yeah, you can certainly do one just because the killer
is so cool, but to make sense out of it,
because then you start getting pretty screen repoff because you
have to continue you're at it's to be a copycat
killer who continues to target Olivia, because if you're not
gonna make it with Olivia and Mason, then why do it, right,
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So I don't I.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Of course, you know, love love hard eyes. I'd be
scared that it would turn out more like Happy Death
Day to.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
You, and I like Happy Death Day to you. It
is a different genre entirely.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yes, just get a little further away from what made
the original special. Yeah, I feel like that's what would
happen with this movie. With with a sequel to this movie, Yeah,
I just I just think, no matter what, it's gonna
be forced. Of course, the the if it does very well,
which it probably will. Uh yeah, Paramount sony My be
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like another one.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, I mean they're gonna want to sure. I just
don't know. I don't know how you do it without
forcing a really weird plot point unless you just get
rid of Olivia and Mason, and I don't. But I
don't like that. Like I said, that was the important
part of the movie, that was what made this.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
Wark what you could it could be their wedding day.
Speaker 1 (28:20):
But so you're a copycat killers randomly. I mean, I
guess because now they're famous, right and they run the
campaign and I there, there's a story to tell. I'm
sure you're gonna make it work. I don't know. I'll
happily watch it.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
I'd be mad that Devin saa, isn't it it though?
Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, killing Devin he was great. By the way.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
He was great. I wish he was in it a
little longer.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
He gets sent out of the room because he so
so uh uh Jay comes back at him after he
made some accusations, yeah, and broke it down and then
he's he turns to uh to seat.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
And he's like that's yeah.
Speaker 4 (28:58):
It's like, yes, you're great to tell it was, and
then and then he and then he breaks it down
a little more and then he just pulls the punch
and she's like, no, no, go outside and cool off,
and he just they shut the door and he's just
standing outside the door, just peering in through the frosting glass.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
I'm glad that Devin Sawa was starting to get his
flowers man, because he's been around for so long since
he was a little baby, So just him to finally
get a lot more representation in the horror genre. It's
just cool. Yeah, it's just cool to see him around.
Speaker 4 (29:31):
Yeah, Devin Sawa was great and it's so funny. Yeah,
and yeah, the detective's names are Shaw and Hobbs. Yeah,
and they make the joke like Hobbs and Shaw like
the movie, like the movie, and they look at each other.
I've never seen him saying that. There was a lot
of that as well, a lot of where both characters
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say something under their breath at the same time.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Can you give me an example of that?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
In the taxi with Ali and Jay talking to the
cab driver, She's like, we don't thank you. He's like,
I have Spotify. Oh yeah, and then Hobbs and Shaw
when they're like, no, no, I never heard of it.
And then earlier on both at the I think it
was right before the shopping montage when they were drinking
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mimosas both Monica and Ali were said something at the
same time. They did it quite a bit. Actually, I
thought for.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
For Jay and Ali, I thought they were kind of
doing a purpose because we're finishing each other sentences, but
they were saying, we're so compati different things. Yeah, we're
so compatible. Yeah, Monica kind of gets thrown away. Huh,
a little bit. She she was very big at the
beginning of the movie. You know, Ali's best friend is
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kind of pushing Nolly to do certain things. They had
that montage here you go, uh, here you go.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
Writers. She is jealous of all of Ali's success, and
therefore she is now the copycat killer in the sequel.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
She's like one hundred and ten pounds.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
Yeah, she was gamber and screen.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
Five and that's why that's bullshit too. That was Stu
the whole time. Yeah, now Jordana Brewster being a killer
I could buy into.
Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, that was she was great as well.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I love her so much. I had a huge crushing
around as a kid, So still do I'm still do good.
She still looks great.
Speaker 4 (31:32):
Well, she's forty four, gonna be forty five this.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Year, and and she'd be funny. Would have thought, yeah,
she's very funny. Would have thought she can bounce off
Devin Sawa.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
So well, yeah, there really weren't wasn't bad performances at all. No, No,
the cop, the comedic characters like the taxi driver, like
he did exactly what he needed to do.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Josh Ruben was in the movie. The director made his
little cameo.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah, I immediately too, like he's I mean, that's oh shit,
forgot forgot about you? Josh yeah, yeah, my god, that's
the director.
Speaker 4 (32:12):
Oh wake up.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Yeah, the whole theater blew up.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
It was the whole theater was like, I really wish
our feater was empty. By the way, Yeah, it was
one person, one person behind us. Yeah, who sneezed a
couple of times?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Shut up.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
I really wish I could have seen this movie with
a theater full of people of all ages. I feel
like that would have been fun.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, that's what we get for going at ten forty
five am.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, yeah, Friday.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Yeah, the kids were in school. You know.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Side note, you know when the best time to go
to the casino is at seven am on a Friday morning,
because that's where I won three thousand dollars, spent two hundred,
spent three hundred and one three thousand, just putting out there.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I have zero dollars, I have three thousand dollar. I'm
afraid I can't do that. I still haven't gone, I
haven't been there. Well, let's go maybe someday, maybe someday,
maybe Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Okay, I'm just kidding. They had at at our casina,
at our hard Rock. They put in uh, fancy recliners,
heated recliners with cup holders in front of like eight
screens to watch the super Bowl in the sports book section.
So and then they have the kiosk where you can
walk up and place your bets. That's on the kiosks. Yeah,
(33:31):
dangerous thing, but that's nice. I'm yeah, I want to go,
but I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
I placed a couple of bets for the Super Bowl.
Scored the first touchdown Eagles to win.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
I bet I only bet Saquon anytime score, Kelsey anytime
score because it's scripted. Of course Kelsey's gonna score. Uh,
and that's it. That's all I bet. I'm not betting
gatorade color. I'm not betting. I'm not I'm not betting
national anthem length. I'm I'm really uninvested in this year's
Super Bowl. God that fell off.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
They really fell off. Insubording.
Speaker 4 (34:08):
Yeah, very sad? Are we rate in this movie?
Speaker 2 (34:14):
You know?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
I was thinking about what I want to give it.
It's tough because I think for me, when I when
I look at like my letterbox score, like out of
five stars, I really want to put I don't. I'm
gonna go at least a four. I was tempted all
the way to four and a half. I might be pushed.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
I think I'm putting it at four and a half.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
You know, I was looking at your Scream three score
the other day and I almost kicked you off the show.
What is it?
Speaker 4 (34:38):
I don't remember if it's a two and a half.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
If you don't fix that, I.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Scream franchise rankings. It is a three sign Scream three.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
Sign, Scream four gets four. That's bullshit.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
No, Scream four gets three and a half.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's wrong. You're wrong.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
But look quick. I have Scream and then Scream six,
and then Scream two, Scream five, four to three. How
can you like all the shitty teen slasher movies like
I Still Know and Hard Eyes? How can you like
all those so much and then not love Scream three?
And how stupid it is? I don't it's three stars.
(35:20):
It's a six out of ten. That's that's great.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
It should be five stars.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
I'm a yeah, what else have you watched this week?
Speaker 1 (35:31):
Freaking nothing? Dude?
Speaker 4 (35:32):
But I guess since last you know, episode didn't go
I'll inform every one of my watching habits. I watch
Lisa Franken Sein. Yes, I watch Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Love
that movie. I might watch it again soon because I
just really enjoy.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
The movie Dying Dying.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
I watched Hot Tub Time Machine one and two because
you know they came up next after Forgetting Sarah Marshall,
and then Hell Razor yep, in Theaters, Let's go in
Theaters and the Scream six. I also want Scream six,
and I really want to watch Your Monster. It's still
at the very very top of my list. Hopefully I
(36:09):
get time next week to give it a watch. But yeah,
that's all I watched in the last two weeks.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
I watch so I mentioned Annabel last time, but watched
Scream five and six and Movie Night last weekend on Sunday,
and then we followed that with Freddy Versus Jason. So
I saw Freddy Versus Jason and then Hell Razor. I
think that's it I'm at so far. I watched one
(36:40):
episode of The Night Agent with my wife of season
two of The Night Agent.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
So I've only seen the last episode of the first
season of The Night Agent. That's all I've seen.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Why Why have you only seen that episode.
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Because I showed up to your house when you were
watching it.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Oh, it's a good show.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
My parents love it.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, it's a pretty good show.
Speaker 4 (37:04):
Uh, you know, of course, you know. The end of
the episodes are usually where we can get tangents. School Spirits.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yeah, it's back on Paramount.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Is it back like now now?
Speaker 1 (37:14):
Yeah? I think it's out.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
I hope so Spirits season two? I thought, I don't
know if all the episodes are out. Three three episodes
are out, another one will be on the tenth. So
that's Mondays, Mondays new episodes, Mondays. I think I think
(37:38):
we should do a little review of School Spirits. Maybe
I will, Maybe I'll watch it falls into this this
this kind of genre a little bit.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
I yeah, yeah, a little bit. It kind of feels
like it just teen drama essentially. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:56):
Have you ever watched the Scream TV series only season three?
Speaker 1 (38:00):
Oh? We should do we should do a live launch
party for members of the Scream TV series, Okay, because
I feel like you'd enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
I think I would. I've heard that it is a
decent slasher show, not a good scream show.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Correct, because it has nothing to do with Scream, right,
I mean, there are calls, calls and texts and metashit
like that, and you have like your Randy type character.
You have all that stuff in there, but it's like
has nothing to do with Woodsboro or ghost Face or Sydney.
It's so it's Brandon James, Brandon James's time around, but
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it is. It's a fun show. Fun who's done it show? Yeah,
both seasons deliver. Then they have a Halloween special, which
is also fun. Then there's season three and that one's
poopy a little bite. Three is bad.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Yeah, we got ideas, man, we got ideas. Now that's
the show's back. We got ideas.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Yeah, we got a nice studio that actually feels like
a studio. I'm like the booth, all right, the booth
didn't feel right. This feels right.
Speaker 4 (39:14):
The booth felt like I was eating something.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Wait, we go through those curtains. I want to feel
like I'm going to work. I want to feel like
I'm about to do something productive.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Should get a door, the sliding door.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
I thought about it, a barn door. Yeah, I I
don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (39:31):
But then you know, there's a barn door there, barn
door here, barn door gonna be there.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
I don't know what else you would do other than
a barn door, because you can't put a normal door there.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
It's yeah, it's definitely not a not a standard sized door. Yeah,
but yeah, get it. Get a metal one that locks
from the outside so we can.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Slam it every time. Yes, I would. Yeah, I've watched
let's see, let me check my list. I've watched twenty
nine film this year, so I'm behind behind. I've only
read one book. Still, it's right here.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
I've watched sixteen. I gotta work on.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
It wasn't even my resolution to watch more shit. And
you're you're losing that.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
That's true.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
If you show up to movie nights, you get at
least three movies in a week.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
That's true. But I work at four in the morning
on Saturdays and Sundays and I'm tired.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
You wake back up by that time, but I'm tired.
How much is horror or how much is not horror?
Of that?
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Sixteen is not horror? One?
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Two? What is squid Game? Three? Four, five, five five?
Speaker 4 (40:39):
Or not horror?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
This squid game? Cause horror?
Speaker 4 (40:43):
I don't know, does it?
Speaker 1 (40:45):
I wouldn't. I mean, was thriller? There's nothing horror about it?
Speaker 4 (40:50):
What action thriller, drama drama? Yeah, yeah, more drama thriller?
Speaker 1 (40:55):
Does it say on here? No, it doesn't. I'm sorry,
I don't speak of it alien.
Speaker 4 (41:01):
Let's see what Wikipedia says.
Speaker 1 (41:03):
I watched Quid game. I've watched Back to the Future
one through three about forty five times already.
Speaker 4 (41:08):
Wikipedia says it's a South Korean dystopian survival thriller action
television series.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
Perfect. I watched Jingle All the Way in February. No,
I watched it like January sixth. I'm talking about non horror. Oh.
I've watched Back to Future one through three about forty
five times each. I've watched the first one about one
hundred times, and then two and three about forty five times.
Jingle All the Way, jur number two, which kind.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
Of that's on my list.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I heard it was all right, Spider Man, Spider Man
Far from Home Avengers Endgame.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That is quite a jump. Spider Man the original, Yeah,
too far from Home Far from Home to endgame? Yeah yeah, which, okay,
Spy the first Spider Man. I didn't watch like back
to back with Spider Man Far from Home. I just
watched that separately.
Speaker 1 (42:01):
It just happened to be that I watched Apartment Far
from Home like the next day, and then I did
randomly watch Endgame like immediately after that.
Speaker 4 (42:08):
The whole Yeah, did you just picture it as the
NFL teams when you did not go the Chiefs not.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
At the time, I was just trying to make Kane watch.
That was that was the only goal I had. You
just you don't understand what you're seeing right now, but
what you're seeing is peaks. And when I was your age,
that was impossible.
Speaker 4 (42:27):
I mean, to be fair, like Endgame took over the world.
It was the pop it was pop culture.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
That was all it was.
Speaker 4 (42:36):
For months, everyone was just talking about Endgame. Yeah, I
mean the Infinity War, well, just the Marvel Cinemata universe
in general. That ten year run was crazy. Yeah, and
then you know, for a year after we were like,
oh yeah, yeah, I mean, no way home again kind
of brought it, brought it back up a little bit.
(42:58):
But little little cringe.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
A little cringe, Yeah, bring me pictures of Spider. Maybe
Captain America will be the comeback. You can go see
that this weekend, nohing next next week.
Speaker 4 (43:11):
Comes out next week, it comes on to Valentine Honestly,
I'm a little uninterested in going to theaters to see
any Marvel anymore.
Speaker 1 (43:17):
The trailer for catin America looks pretty good.
Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, it looks good. I'd rather just watch it at
home when it comes out.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, you can just kind of wait these days.
Speaker 4 (43:27):
I don't know if we are going to keep this
in or not. But like, I haven't watched Marvel in
a while.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
Well, I'm when it comes to the series on Disney.
Speaker 4 (43:38):
Plus, I've only seen WandaVision.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
I've seen part of Madame web My, damn web My,
damn web That movie sucked.
Speaker 4 (43:46):
So what as far as films we got?
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (43:54):
Since Okay, I've seen Black Widow, since since the Phase four,
since Endgame and Far From Home came out, I've watched all.
I've watched everything. I've seen Black Widow, I've seen No
Way Home, Yes, Multiverse of Madness, Doctor Strange, Yes, and
that's it. I haven't seen Dead Pull and Wolverine. Haven't
(44:18):
seen the new ant Man. I actually haven't seen ant
Man two. That's the only one before Phase four that
I have not seen is.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Ant Man two? Is that the Quantum Realm?
Speaker 4 (44:28):
No, that's Quantum Mania is three Quantum Mania is three.
Ant Man and the Wasp. Yeah, ant Man and the Wasp,
I haven't that's the only one I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Before.
Speaker 4 (44:42):
Before then before Current Times, I didn't realize we were
in phase six or we're about to be in phase six.
Fantastic four just put out the trailer the other day. Yeah,
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
It looks pretty good. I'm into it.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
And then Doomsday six.
Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, Avengers still shoggling to buy into the whole Robert
Donnay Junior thing.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
I'm into it.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
I want I'm not like mad about it like some
people are pissed. I'm not mad. I'm just it is
a little weird to me because are we really gonna
pretend it doesn't look like Robert Donna Junior? Wait, what
are we doing with that?
Speaker 4 (45:19):
I think they'll probably address it and be like Tony,
you can be like, who the fuck is Tony?
Speaker 1 (45:24):
I've it's gonna did you didn't you have a theory
about that? Or no? Was that there must have been
another about what they're gonna do with Maybe it was Simon.
Speaker 4 (45:33):
Well, yeah, they're gonna go get uh, They're gonna go
to a different universe and get Tony Stark from a
different universe. Yeah, or actually he's gonna end up being
Tony Stark from that universe. Is Green Goblin to help
the Goblin Green Goblin, Doctor Doom, Green Goblin. Yeah, you know, Avengers, Goblin,
these nuts. It's literally in the title of the film
(45:54):
Doctor Doom.
Speaker 3 (45:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
But then, uh, they're gonna go get Danos because Danos
is the only one that can help them. Defeed, the
alternate versions of themselves and the Secret Wars.
Speaker 1 (46:04):
Is that right out of the comics, Probably don't. Uh, yeah,
that's just theory of film theory.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
Thanks for watching all your horror horror topics right here on. Uh,
Make Every Death Count, Make.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
Earath Count was always created to talk about what the
help we want, and it tends to be horror. But
if we cover the horror and we have more we
want to say we in.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
The last quarter of Make Every Death Counts just tangents, correct.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I was trying to think of it some more tangents,
but I think I'm out fresh out.
Speaker 4 (46:37):
You know why we're out of tangents because we just
had our super show the other night.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, that's night exactly live. It's pretty lit, pretty lit,
that's all I got I did. I committed to four
stars for Hard Eyes.
Speaker 4 (46:58):
I'm going four and a half, baby, let's go.
Speaker 1 (47:01):
You know why I changed my mind because I went
to put Freddy Risgus Jason in my watch list and
I had I was gonna rate it, and I was like,
four and a half feels too high. I'm gonna be four.
I'm like, man, it's hard eye. I'm gonna put hard
Eyes about fred rig Jason like that. So I uh,
I put it out of four, eight out of ten.
It's nice. It's a generous. It's a generous rating because
it's really probably like a seven half.
Speaker 4 (47:24):
Well what ron It doesn't have an IMDb score because
it's not out yet, but it's now officially certified fresh
at eighty two and the audience is at seventy five. Yeah,
it's about right, which I wonder then if it's not
IMDb Now for ratings, Metacritic is at sixty one percent.
Speaker 1 (47:46):
I'm all for these who Done It slashers and holiday
slashers to keep coming. And honestly, you could bury me
and who Done It slashers and I'll be okay with that.
I'll watch them the rest of my life. Yeah, big
Scooby Doo guy.
Speaker 4 (48:02):
So uh, no IMDb aggregation at this time. So we're
just gonna have to go with a with seventy five
percent audience score and eighty two percent certified Fresh for critics.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
There you go, that's Hard Eyes.
Speaker 4 (48:19):
Hillariser has a seventy percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
Those are people that don't understand. Yeah, don't understand the
beauty of them.
Speaker 4 (48:27):
Movie seventy and then from critics and the seventy three
from audience, which I wonder how many are new from
these last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
Yeah, oh, there you go. That's Hard Eyes. That's our
thoughts on it. I think I'm gonna go see it again.
I think I can convince my wife to go. That
promise if I've seen a movie it was. Let me
make one of my wife real quick. If I've seen
a movie, she hasn't. She's the kind of person to
constantly ask for spoilers. She's like, is it this person?
(48:56):
Is it? This person? Is it?
Speaker 4 (48:58):
Is he gonna die? She does it all the time,
like shook. So what you need to do is tell
her that we went and saw Love Hurts. You're like, no,
we didn't see Hard Eyes. We saw love hurts.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
That won't work. She knows, damn she loves. She loves
asking questions if you if it's something you've seen, I'm like,
why don't you just watch it, honey? Like, damn, you're
gonna find out, you're gonna see you really want it spoiled.
She's not good with surprises, man, she's not. She's not
good at keeping them either. Like today she was like,
was your Valentine's sake gift? Like, no, I don't want
(49:28):
to see my valentine say gift. It's not Valentine's thing.
I can wait. It's fine.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
Is that why she told me that?
Speaker 3 (49:37):
What?
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Huh Uh? That's it. That's it, that's it. We'll be
back next week. Do we know what we're doing next week?
Speaker 4 (49:46):
Uh, Valentine?
Speaker 1 (49:48):
Oh yeah, Valentine, I gotta watch it for the first time. Oh,
you're gonna like it's so much more than hard Eyes.
That's a way superior Valentine's Day Horror Movie said all right,
well I guess with that as always, Thank you so
much for listening, and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.
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Speaker 3 (50:20):
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