E138: The Monkey (2025) | Spoiler Review & Discussion - Make Every Death Count

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Speaker 1 (00:48):
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It's good to see you. It's good to see you.
Another week another episode. Today is Sunday, which means real.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Late, my bad, busy weekend. It's been busy. Yeah, yeah,
like the weather. The weather did not help. No, everyone's sick.
You had to work too much this week, and so
stop that. I just want just quit that job, will you? Man?
I I am not well, physically drained, mentally not in

(01:20):
a great place. Well all right, it's full stop period,
No butts, no nothing, man, let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
I it's funny because I feel kind of burnt out,
but I don't. But I'm also like, I'm super motivated
right now. I think it just kind of comes with
working out so much. And now I'm like truly seeing
results of working out, not so much on the scale.
The scale is, I hate scales. Just measure just measure yourself,

(01:55):
watch your waist that way. Scales are. It's lying to
me straight up.

Speaker 1 (01:59):
I I felt myself get fatter this week, like like
I told you, I in in seven days I McDonald's
like fourteen times, and I feel myself being unhealthy I had.
That's depression just feeding into it. It's fine, Well it's
not fine, but that's what's going on.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
That's actively what's happening. Yeah, I tell any workout man,
that's uh. It will help a lot mentally.

Speaker 1 (02:27):
Now that it's getting a little warmer, now my foot's
not hurting as bad. It still hurts like a motherfucker,
but yeah, such as.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Life, my foot's fine. My foot only hurts when the
weather initially changes. Then it's it stops.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Mine just always hurts.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
Dang dang love it. Yeah, I was just a weekly
update here on life. I started playing UFC five and
I've never played those games online because I know they
make me mad. They're always full laggy bullshit. I don't

(03:03):
if you've ever played any of those types of combats
or really any like sports game, A lot of them
are insanely laggy online that you ever played ww online?

Speaker 1 (03:13):
Oh yeah, it's brutal, but so.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
I knew it was gonna be bad. But then I
started doing it, and I was, I like, I have
a problem. I feed so much into one v one
competition and I actually don't like it. I don't like
one v one competition because I need.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
I need someone.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
I need someone to pass a blame to. You know,
that's the that's my toxic trait. Added to the list
of my toxic traits. But if it's one v one,
I get so mad when I lose. It's very childish
of me, and I know it is I and man,
I UFC has this ability to make me so mad.
And it's more skill based than multi versus, like you

(03:51):
actually have to like no combos and block at the
right time. But I swear to god, there's so much
cheese in there, and or people that just spam, or
people that only use five star fighters like you constantly,
are just going against Anderson Silva and John Jones and shit,
and I'm like, fuck off, you go outside. Also, when
I was playing online, I'm sorry, this is this important

(04:13):
segment of the show. When I was playing online for
the first time, it was like Tuesday at ten am. Okay,
I was like, I'm gonna get the bitches that aren't
very good at this game, new players, and no man,
it was just the sweatiest people that only play online.
So dude, I was getting so mad on the verge
of breaking controllers. My son probably thinks I'm a psycho.
I was getting so mad at the TV, so I

(04:36):
think I'm gonna make the choice. I was having fun
because I love competition like that, but I think I
gotta let it go. I think I gotta uninstall.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
It and go back to multiverses. I just wanted to
break even because I started off. When I first started playing,
I was like three and thirty five. I like, my
record was so bad. They were kicking my ass. And
then because you start to figure out like what works
against NPCs, I can win legendary against NBC's what works

(05:03):
on them does not work on real people. So yeah,
you had to start figuring out what works by getting
your ass whip, and then started to make a comeback.
And I got within like ten of being even, of
my record being even, and I just I started getting
my ass whipped again. My rank got too high, and
so I was all right, I think I'm gonna let
it go. See, the only games I play are chill games,

(05:26):
so I have don't recommend UFC five. Hell No. I
played check In, which is a hotel builder management game.
Very simple, News Tower, which is a game about a
news newspaper company in the nineteen thirties. Maybe I should
play games like this. The Executive just came out this

(05:47):
this past week, and it's a movie tycoon, so you
can make a production company. You make films, you find
out what combos work, like horror and thriller or slasher
and horror, romance, comedy, stuff like that. It's early access,
it's indie, so you know it's it's pretty limited, but
it's pretty fun. And it's cheap software inc. Where you

(06:08):
make software. Ale Abby I've been playing, which is a
monastery in the nineteen or fifteen hundreds that make beer. Yeah,
so it's mainly just making beer, which is fun. And
then I restarted Galactic Air, which is a space hospital game.

(06:30):
So that's what I've been doing, trying to do. It's
been a little weird this week because I've been working
at the gas station so much. Yeah, but yeah, I
only play, only play chill games because that's all my
mental health can take.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Oh yeah, no, for real, it is very mentally taxing
to be so mad at a competitive game. But anyone
that knows me, like I have a very addictive personality.
It's I'm lucky that I haven't been a like, horribly
addicted to something like drugs or alcohol.

Speaker 1 (07:04):
I can get you whatever you want. I can get
your heroin.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
I with usc five kidding, there's I was struggling, like
I struggle to walk away. So you lose one like
gotta I gotta go off on a win. But then
you win like on a streak, and that game fucks
you up even more because if you win three fights
in a row, you get the title. You win a title,
and then if you have the title, you get defense
and you get in their defense defenses is that what defenses?

Speaker 1 (07:34):
Defense?

Speaker 3 (07:36):
You have to defend the title belt and every time
you win, you get a gym on your title belt
and then if you lose it, if you lose a fight,
then you lose the belt, and it's just it's.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
A never ending cycle. It was fucking me up, man,
So yeah, I think I need to let it go,
you know, don't I need to I need to watch
more movies. Though I didn't watch any movies this week,
I did. I did.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm so glad you brought it up. We'll keep this
going before we talk about the monkey. So I managed
to watch a few movies this week. First of all,
I watched Night Swim for Rabbit and Red night Swim,
especially upon a rewatch. Now is what is probably the
worst depends on how we define mainstream. I think it's

(08:18):
the worst written mainstream horror film that I've seen the
last twenty years. That is definitely fair. I don't know
what else. I don't know how It depends on you
to find mainstreams. I can think of some worst movies,
you know. But the movie looks good and all that,
but god, it is so poorly written.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
It's horrible. It's bad.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
So yeah, I gave that a whopping one and a
half out of five stars, three out of ten. The
only reason I did it gave it that much was
because the cast was that bad.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Yeah, watch a movie called Reunion this week. You ever
heard of that?

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Reunion is a Who Done It? It centers on a
murder that takes place at a high school reunion. Oh yeah,
it's a comedy. It's a comedy film, and yeah it's
it was exactly what I needed it to be. Like,
it wasn't that good, but I last a couple of
times I was guessing the killer and that's all I need,

(09:14):
literally all I needed. Saw a huge Who Done It?

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Guy?

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Had fun with that. We need more Who Dunn? It's
out there. Watched Whiplash this week, it's back on Netflix.
I also watched The Monkey Monk.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
That's it. I just watched The Monk the Big Fan though,
Big Fan, let's talk about you guys. I didn't watch anything.
Oh and the other thing I watched.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
It's not of my letterbox because they don't put shows
on letterbox. I am caught up on school Spirits, are you?

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah? I I gotta wait till the whole season's out
before I watch it.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
I didn't know they came out on Thursdays, So I
was up late Wednesday night and I was watching the show.
I was like, all right, I'm all cut up, but
all of a sudden there was a new episode there.
I'm like, oh, all right, did I watched the episode
right that or there? So yeah, it's it's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I mean, I'm enjoying. How many episodes are there right now? Six?
I think? Is there only eight in this season? I
think that's correct. So I got two more weeks to
wait before I've been to it all. And I'll probably
rewatch season one too, because why not, even though you
know I don't. I don't have time to do that
shit fun show. Yeah it is.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
Season two is working. Yeah, I didn't think it would
because of how the first season ends. Because you're not
guessing anymore. You would think you're guessing plenty, you're guessing
plugging at the second season. There's still plenty going on
where you things that are unanswered.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Okay, yeah, now that's it. Caught up my week everything
I went through this week, hung out my son a lot.
That's what I was doing this weekend.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
That's why immediately after we record this, I have to
stay up and edit this and slash and gast make
sure it's out by tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
And yeah, freak, Like I said, I've been working so
much at the gas station that I in my body
is so drained. I don't anything else, so I sucks. Yeah,
but that's that's the rod I'm in, and maybe next
year I'll get out of it.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I think telling you work out. I think my calculation
star correct for about twelve minutes into this episode. And
for those that leave negative reviews when they tune into
an episode because they don't get to the point quickly
on a podcast, first of all, fuck you.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I hate people that do that.

Speaker 3 (11:27):
And if you're mad that I said, fuck you, fuck you,
fuck you, don't do that, all right, just let us.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Ramble a little bit ahead.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Podcast for a lot of people is therapeutic. Yeah, so
let us talk.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Geez, let me talk about my depression.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Come on, the Monkey were going in spoiler filled review
Here went and saw it. It's a good time. Okay,
went saw it front Thursday Night, Thursday Night. I directed
it and written by An's Good Perkins, based on the
short A short story by Stephen King follows to twin

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brothers Bill and Howe. They find a monkey that their
dad had when they were kids. This monkey, when you
turn the key on the back, it will randomly choose
somebody to kill, and it does.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
And it makes it look like an accident. Very final destination.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Style, Yes, yeah, very Finnization style. But we start off
in the movie and when they're kids they kill some
people with the monkey. Skip to the future twenty five
years and they're trying to avoid the monkey, or at
least so it seems, there's been the subplot. I didn't
think was a thing. I didn't read this short story.

(12:45):
I'm not sure it's the thinking of the short story
at all either, But yeah, I guess we'll start from
the beginning. We kick off with the pretty cool scene
following Bill and how the twin brothers he are following
their dad trying to return the monkey symbol or not symbol. Honestly,
did you know that Disney forced them to I changed
the design of the monkey.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
I read that article.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Yeah, which makes it because they own the like the
look of the symbol monkey.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Of a symbol monkey in movies as a toy, like
that's I guess, a toy that comes to life somehow,
Like that's the the trademarker that they have.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
I honestly kind of like the drum the snare drum monkey.
I do instead. It's more fun. Yeah, it's not annoying.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
Annoying. Looking at the Wikipedia page for the short story
of the Monkey, it's just hal uh. He does not
have a brother, and then he does have a son pet.
They go to Crystal Lake A subtle Yeah. I would
actually like to read the short story, but I have not.

(13:58):
What's his face that plays her dad? What? Amma? You
know who? That was? Adam Scott. Adam Scott. That's right, crazy,
It did not. I didn't expect that we start the
movie on Adam Scott. Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, he's selling. He's selling the monkey back and and
it I'm glad this scene exists because you immediately know
what you're getting yourself into, which you probably I think
it's one of those movies where you probably want to
know just how stupid this movie is going into it right,
because it's very stupid. It is super over the top desks.

(14:35):
It's like fandacination style, but it's comedy fondestination, like yes, fascination.
Although it has some funny kills, a lot of times
kind of grounds those in reality still and makes them
scary right like foundation too, like the log truck. Okay,
like that's people don't drive behind those still, it's right, right,

(14:55):
So it's it's not like that. There's nothing in the
Monkey where you know this first kill with that of
Scott where he's selling the monkey and you know it
ends up.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Did we ever see the key turned? Now?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
It's yeah, in in the in that opening scene we do. Okay, yeah,
I thought it just kind of did its own thing there.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Yeah, because the pawnshop owner was like, it probably doesn't
even work. Oh right, right, yeah, don't turn that, and
then he did. He did, Ye turned the key.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
But then one of the the night, it's like a
knight in there that has a it's not a bow
and arrow, but.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
It's a it's a deep sea diver. It's the Oh
that's fun. Yeah I saw that. I'm like, okay, yeah, damn.
But yeah, it shoots an arrow right through the harpoon. Yeah,
gets a gets the owner right in the tummy, and
then it retracts and pulls out his intestines with him.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yeah, just massively long strand of his intestines. So yeah, yeah,
super over the top. That's where were you going with.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Your final destination kills are very elaborate. Yeah, in this one,
it's just more like accidental environment causes these kills. Yeah, yes,
I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
What is who was playing the mom? I'm doning out
all names right now.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Tatiana mass Lani. Yeah, she's in keeper as well, right, yes,
and she's also she Hulk that's right, that's right. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:38):
I like her a lot more in this. I thought
she was great.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
I do too. I thought she was great. She's a
bad mother. No, Well, it's funny because actually when it
first started happening, like this scene they the first death
happens with Hal and Bill.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
They're going out to dinner at one of those like
they cook in front of you. Yeah, and they're going
out with their babysitter.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
Named Annie Wilkes by the way, hilarious. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
And then at some Hal I think spun the monkey
earlier monkey was in the car with them. It teleports,
moves itself around, falls in to the the restaurant and yeah,
they the blade falls off of of the the meat
cleaver falls off and decapitates babysitter.

Speaker 1 (17:35):
So we're just keep going the crazy. Yeah. The head
slides right off and onto the grill.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Yeah, and he's kind of like hard cut to the funeral,
which the little joke. They're doing the hard cut to
the funeral, and that's when we had the scene with
the mom with Lois sitting with Hal and Bill and
she's kinda this is where I said it might be
a little bit of bad Brother. She's like, yeah, death,
we're all gonna die. You're you're gonna die. I'm gonna die,

(18:01):
you know, And which is okay, you gotta have that
conversation with the kids. It's how it is. But it's
some of us are gonna die peacefully, some of us
are gonna be brutally murdered.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well, she got him ice cream. Yeah, then they just
go home and dance afterwards. Yeah, that's fun. That's fun.
I'd appreciate that she was very scorned with her husband leaving, Yeah, leaving,
But he he was doing the same thing. He was

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hiding the monkey and its effects from his family, the
people that he cared about. Didn't work.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
It did not doesn't work. When you leave the monkey behind.

Speaker 1 (18:40):
It must have teleporter back because he burned it. Yeah,
the monkey doesn't really make sense to me. The rules
of the Monkey. I thought it was so funny when
the monkey's in the backseat of the car at the
restaurant and then all of a sudden, he's in the
driver's seat. Yeah. I thought that was so funny, and

(19:01):
it was not meant to be probably probably not. It
was so funny to me.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
It seemed like everything they were going for was trying
to be humorous.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Oh yeah, it is defined as a comedy horror. Yeah,
so it was. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
And then well, okay, Hallen's is spinning in again, trying
to kill his brother, which I think of psychopath. But
you know, this movie makes you think Bill's the bad
guy because Bill's calling him a dumb shit the whole time,
and and he you know, the bully is cool and whatnot.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
But how does try to kill him multiple times with
the bowling ball over his head? And well that was
that was a fantasy. Well, he was holding it above
and then he he fantasized about actually dropping it, and
then it cut to him still holding it above his head.
So that's not attempted murder. He was he was thinking
about it. That is conspiracy, Yeah, it is Hal.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, so Hell tries to kill Bills several times, and yeah,
when he attempts to wind up the monkey figures out
the monkey's evil pretty quick by Hal Yeah, impressive, figures
out the monkey's eagle, tries to spit it to spin
the key to give him to killed. Bill ends up
killing his mom instead.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Just she died like by fucking aneurysm. Yeah, he just
blew up her head blew up. That's not creative. Yeah,
I mean it was. That was a little more, uh
meant to be scary.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
I think, well, when she not so much, well, yeah,
when she screams with the camera there, it's pretty freaky.
But later when Hal has a dream of her and
she's screaming at the camera, I actually thought that was
pretty freaky. Yeah, it did make my tummy hurt. Oh
that's how scary you boys.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, there were some scary moments in this. Well that's
that's about it. We pretty much stop after that. I
mean yeah, after you stop seeing Lois, the horror kind
of goes away. Lois Lois well PD.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
We and then the next so Uncle Chip and aunt
ida Ye take over the and again we got Oscar
Perkins plays Uncle Chip and another funny moment there with
him sitting down talking to Uncle Chip. I think it's
how next to him is like, hey, you know me
and your ann we're gonna do the best we can.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
All right.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
We never wanted kids, you know, we just didn't think
we're also swingers. Uh hey, we never we never wanted kids,
but we're gonna do We're gonna do the best with
you too. We just know it's gonna be pretty bad. Yeah,
you gotta respect the honesty. But that HALLI tries is

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how try to kill Bill again? Is that why he
ends up spinning it again?

Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, they at that point he tells Bill about it.
Oh yeah, and they try it then.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, just randomly, which is so weird, Like, yeah, let's
see if someone actually does die.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Because he had uh he had chopped it up with
a cleaver and threw it away. Yeah, and then it
came back. Always comes back, that damn monkey. Yeah. So
Bill ends up be like, all right, you know, let's
just try it out.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Let's just see if it works. And he spins it
up and then he's hard. Cut back to Uncle Chip's funeral.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, I like it, And then that show uh hit
or explained his death. He was hunting in the woods
and a stampede it was like four hundred deer appeared
in the woods and stampeded him, and then they opened
the sleeping bag and it's all just guts. Yeah, it's
just like ground a beef. Yeah, it looked like fruit punch,

(22:45):
like an old school fruit punch at a prom with
fruit in it. Yeah, that's exactly what it looked like.
It's probably what it was. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, and
I don't think anyone else dies from there. And they
decide for that, They're gonna nude. Okay, monkey too dangerous,
Let's take it. Let's put it in a well that's
at our aunt's house. Can't destroy it, but we can

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contain it.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
Yeah, which is not true. I don't This is where
I don't understand. Again, it doesn't matter a movie like this,
so I'm not holding it too much against it. But yeah,
they do that. They throw that monkey in the well,
which we already confirmed it can teleport and bring itself
back to life being chopped up and burned, you know,
but the fucking flamethrower. Yeah, they throw it in the well,

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and then it's just like, all right, I'm gonna chill
over twenty five years and that's it. And then does
it ever? Oh well, so we find out later that Bill,
Bill's the bad guy all along, right, and Bill went
back in to the well because he figured out that
Hal must have killed his mother. So Bill goes and

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tries to get the monkey right away and finds just
the keys, and he says he took it as a
sign that the monkey will come back, and it just does.
Twenty five years later, he gets a forcing cookie.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's his high turn the key. See what happened to
turn the key? See what happens? Hi? Yeah, that was
that was not explained very well.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
I just don't understand that. Why why did it take
twenty five years? If the monkey does want to kill,
which it I think that's the point. I'm not sure
if it's like sacrificing people to the devil or whatever
is going on there, and we see literal fucking death later,
so it seems like the monkey is in maybe in

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some sort of association with death himself.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I don't know. They made it a big point that,
you know, contain it. It's not gonna hurt anyone. But
I don't think they spun the key at the restaurant
before they went into the restaurant. The monkey just decided
to kill and play in the while they were in
the restaurant with.

Speaker 3 (24:59):
The Now, I think they did spin it, and it moved,
It opened its mouth and moved, and then it just stopped.
And then it's not until it drops that hand again,
that right hand again that it actually does kill. So
I think that's what happened. I think they spun it.
Nothing happened at first, and then they went and the
monkey was in the car and then he drops he
drops the drumstick again once they're there.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, you're right, So it just waited.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
It just waited. Yeah, it randomly chooses. You cannot make
a wish on who you wanted to kill. It does
not work as how figure it out.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
It does not take requests. Death does not take requests,
which is the theme of the movie, right, Death does
not take requests. Don't wish people to die death? All
is fair in death size? Is it the line? Do
you know a movie that's from you know what I'm
trying to quote now? All is fair and death size? Oh,

(25:55):
it's fair and death size. What are the rest of
the lines from Found Station three? Oh? H when the
Kinley's He's like, mm hmm, these girls didn't do shit
to anybody, you know what? What?

Speaker 3 (26:10):
Ben Laden ben Lod was still alive at that time,
so he says that Ben Laden live.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
And well, damn love file does Station Tree big fan?
Yeah so so yeah. So then in the middle of
the night and Ida hears twenty years later, twenty five
years later, and Ida hears the music wakes her up,

(26:37):
kind of fucked up that the monkey kills her. You know, yeah,
unless it was just the way to get back to
being used, you know, what's another thing. So just random
complaints here Bill.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Bill is adamant after finding, after putting it together, that
Hal killed his mother. He holds this grudge for twenty
five years. Will not go kill Hal himself. He has
to do it via the monkey. Yeah, so he waits
for this monkey to call on him to hey, come

(27:15):
get me. But then he when he gets the monkey,
he tries suspinning it over and over again to kill Hal.
That's the whole goal. And it just starts killing random
people all over town, just random people, people they didn't know.
So if it really is random and death is so
random like that when it comes to the monkey, why

(27:38):
is it. The first three times they spun it, it
killed people close to them, Uh, babysitter, mom, and uncle
Chip all in a row. And then technically the next
one to die is an Idah. Yeah, it's fucked up.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Yeah, but I guess I guess the monkey needed to
be found by Rowan Gampbell. Yeah, yeah, Thrasher. I saw
the motherfucker. I'm like, I know you. I know those
lips because his hair was covering his eyes the whole movie. Yea,
and yeah, I don't know, just just needed to make

(28:17):
it clear. Hey, I don't take requests. Yeah, but I
need to kill your aunt Ida so that I can
be found and brought back to kill more people. He
doesn't need to be found. You can just teleport wherever
you want. I don't understand he sure he could have.
He could have. Yeah, just spawned at Bill's place or
spawned at Hal's place.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's like overthinking it. It's movie is not meant to
be overthought like that, but yeah, it's It's always weird
to me when a movie kind of establishes rules and
then just says fuck it. Like the no plot says,
this is what we're doing. That's how it goes.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, present day Hal is he's all grown, he's working,
he's a cash register. Yeah, he's working at a grocery store.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Yeah, cool, killing it all right, he has his son
that he had an accident whoopsie Daisy, but is not married.
He only sees his son once a year. Is son
Pete a week for a year?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah? A week every year? Yeah, that's it. That's it.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
And this for some reason, this time around his ex
girlfriend not only they ever married, right they this time
around she's married to Elijah Would Yeah, and she's like, hey,
this is the last time you're gonna see p D.
Like it's her fucking call just triggered me, that's all.

(29:47):
Uh Like, hey, you know what Ted Elijah Wood over here,
who writes books about bear a good father. Yeah, yeah,
he's gonna adopt PD. So you don't even have to
be around anymore. You know that's what you want?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
Right?

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Like, how about you make that's my call as a father?
And I actually take my son away from me. He's like,
it's so hard for me to see him once a year,
and he he it is established that he does that
to avoid.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I guess what's the word misfortune? Bad things happen to me.
So I'm keeping you away from that. But I still
love you and I want to see you, so a
week every year, I can kind of contain the chaos.
That is my life. It's kind of bullshit. Yes, I agree,
but I was ped. I would say, get bent, Hal,

(30:34):
I'm gonna see you every other weekend. Yeah, I understand,
but couldn't be me. Couldn't be me.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
But yeah, So he's with PD and he realizes, I
don't know why, he realizes that the monkey's back. People
start dying and but I mean what she really establishes
is the person at the same motel well that Hal
is at with PD, someone ends up dying in the

(31:04):
pool and blowing up into pieces.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
So yeah, Bill, Bill calls Hall and says aunt Ida died.
It was an accident. Yeah, And they're like, oh.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Why does Bill do that? Why does Bill call Hall
and tell him that the monkeys the Monkey's back.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
I don't know. I don't know what his goal was.
I guess to just get him, get him to come
to the town. I guess wasn't he was already there,
wasn't he. So so the way that the movie goes
is aunt Ida dies, they have a estate sale. What's
his face? Roan Campbell finds the monkey, sells it to Bill.

(31:46):
Bill calls Hal then says, hey, they need to finalize something.
You have to come to this town bring Pete. And
I don't know when the girl dies in the pool,
so he must have spun it again. Yeah, I guess,
I just I didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
I didn't even think about the fact that that's a
different location that Bill wants.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
But why does he? So Bill thinks it's by distance
like the and I know he said he needs pet
to spin it because if PD spins it, he thinks
that will kill how because no matter how many times
Bill tried, because Hal spun it killed his mom, so
Pete spends it kills it dead.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Logical, I guess, although Bill is kind of stupid, so
I guess it makes sense.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Fair Yeah, missus monkey. I like the the oh yeah,
that happens twice in the movie that the first time
Hal is talking to his mom because the monkey appears
on his shelf out of nowhere, and he calls out
to Lewis' mom. It's like, hey, why did you why

(32:49):
did you put this monkey in here? And she's like,
I haven't.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
I haven't not gone in there since I found a
stiff sock. Which listen to mothers, you're gonna have to
still go in your kid's room.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
That's gonna happen. He goes, yeah, yeah, and then I
have the call back. I think it's an intentional callback. Yes,
later when I didn't what is why does Bill say that? Oh?
He's like, don't didn't you ever house as the Bill,
He's like, you know, she's my mother too, Like I
also lost my mother, Like I didn't want that to happen.
He's like, oh, yeah, we're just so stupid. But that's

(33:23):
like it was meant to be stupid. Well yeah, like
that's kind of psycho psychotic behavior, like it's my mom. Yeah,
this person killed my mom. Oh they're my brother. Oh
it was his mom too, kind of like that. Yeah,
and just like that allan Bill are fine. Yeah, we

(33:44):
got the death montage of all the people that died
in the way. Yeah, fun, what ol did that include?
We had the pool, of course, we had the pool
that she jumps in off the diving board. And I
don't think that's a very accurate depiction of what would

(34:04):
happen if the water was the fool was electrified. Yeah,
and she jumps in and the second she hits the water,
she explodes into a million pieces. Yeah, I don't think
that would happen.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Don't think that will happen, but I like it, and
I to herself and how she died. I mean, she's
her first, she gets the fish hooks. I guess that
could be scary. So she sits up and screams at
the camera with the fish hooks in her face.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Well, yeah, because we hear the monkey. And then she
falls through the stairs and we just sit for like
ten good seconds on just the stairs, the broken stair. Yeah,
and then she lifts her heads up and is screaming, which, yeah,
that was actually kind of scary with the fish hooks
in her face, yes, unnerving, yes, And then she peels

(34:51):
them out, smells gas, walks over, listens to hear the
gas coming out, gets close enough, and ignites her head
on fire. I don't know what that would happen either,
to be honest with you, But I don't know how
gas works like that, Like, is it really like gas
fills up your home and then you light a match

(35:11):
in your home just explodes.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Well, yes, that can happens when you don't leave the gas.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
But I don't know if it would just just light
a person's head on fire and nothing else.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Yeah, I don't know if. I don't know how quickly?
Is your skin to start on the fire. This is
an honest question, like if you were to have flame
shoot at your face, like your hair would start at
a fire, but would your skin.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Just curious, honestly, I don't know. For Antidos, she she
did her whole head like chin pop, yeah, in flames.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, and she runs out the front door. For some reason,
she never actually tries to take the fire out, No,
starts running and then she runs straight into her picket.
It's like a picket sign.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
Well there's water, right, she r She runs downer stairs
across the road and there was water there, so maybe
that's where she was going. That was the goal. Maybe
she trips over the monkey. It wasn't a monkey. It
was a It was like a bag with ros with
rose in it, like a present. Uh. Yeah, I don't know.

(36:19):
It was dark, I couldn't see.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, I know they established whatever the hell that was
at some point, but yeah, don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
Memory here and then yeah, I I don't remember some
of those kills off the top of my head. I
know there was one of the golf course, the cobra
out of the pops out of the golf hole.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
Yeah, now that's a whole other fear of mine that
would never well, first of it, definite wouldnt happen here,
but them that just ain't fitting into an own golf hole.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Well yeah, then he even says, like a cobra in
Maine or yeah in Maine. Yeah, like there's no cobras
in Maine. There was one. There was one, and that's
where it was. Yeah, there were there were a few kills.
They quit cut to those. And then the insurance agent

(37:12):
or whoever, a state or a retailer realator, yeah, realator.
Uh opens the closet. Then that he thinks he hears
the monkey coming from and then a gun falls and
blows her head off.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
Yeah, she didn't even blow her head off. It blew
her into several pieces. Yeah, it's quite the double barrel
they got there. Yeah, yeah, what big climax movie. PD
ends up going into where Bill is, which how does
he have all those TV set up too?

Speaker 1 (37:46):
That's every thing I was thinking.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Like, he's got all these old CRTs and ship set
up just kind of random, just look like a henchman's
layer kind of thing. And the monkey sits on top,
which would be hard to get.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
To every time. So it's a shrine.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, but he gets ped in there, trying to get
him to spin the key and get to kill his dad,
but it's he won't do it, so then he starts
to fight with the monkey, tries to get him to
force his arm down to kill somebody, and the monkey
gets pissed off. And I guess when the monkey gets mad,

(38:22):
all rules go away and he just starts killing everybody.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
Yeah, the monkey really started drumming there. Yeah, and then
you look, they looked outside and there are planes on
fire falling out of the sky crashing into buildings.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
Yeah, like full apocalypse out there. And Casco is what
it was called, a small town of Kesco. But yeah,
and that's when you have the conversation and how it
bills like yeah, it's my mother too, like oh yeah, yeah.
And then they're friends and everything is good. But then
the monkey strikes one more time and the lowest bowling

(38:58):
ball their mom's bowling. While I saw earlier get through
this crazy booby trap shit that Bill's got set up.
It ends up shooting the bowling ball straight into his
face and plants his head against the wall.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Which is what Hal wanted to do. He wanted to
drop the bowling ball on his head as a kid.
It all came full circle. Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
How it's not sad. I'm glad that it wasn't, because
like they don't have a good relationship, Like they hated
each other, and at that moment they were like, oh, okay, yeah,
let's be friends now. And they were gonna go on
vacation together with the How. P D and Bill, We're
gonna go together. But then Bill gets killed.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Damn, that's it. He's just like, yeah, shit, all right,
let's go beat people die. Everyone dies.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, And then the weird ending of the movie. Just
this whole movie is batshit crazy, right, but the ending
just was like, Okay, we're just gonna make you talk
about this. At the end, it's p D and How
driving off. They're going through Casco where it's full apocalypse.
You see a plane already crashed down.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Over there. There's a baby on fucking fire. The woman
is yelling ah, pushing a stroller and it's just flames
coming from the stroller. You don't actually see the baby,
but obviously it's implied. Yeah, but that was funny. Yeah,
that was just enough where you can't be like, ah,

(40:23):
you can't kill kids. No, it was that was funny.
If there was a baby crying, it have been too far. Yeah,
but there was no baby crying. I tend to agree,
no baby crying. It was on fire. It was the
other one. Someone got impaled into a tree holding a
briefcase and then the briefcase open and papers flew all over.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Yeah, there's a lot of crazy shit like that. Then
there they stop at a stop light for a long
stop light. You know, they're the only car out there
on the apocalypse is happening there in Casco. But I
then a white horse with the man and all white
just walk with black eyes, just walks by.

Speaker 1 (41:02):
Yep. Look they look at each other, Alan nods on them. Yeah.
The pale horseman, pale horseman, which is death. So it
seems so we can infer the four horsemen of the apocalypse.
The last one is the pale horseman, which is death.
And there you go. So just kind of gives them

(41:23):
all that.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
Yeah, I don't know if there was more that Oscar
Perkins wanted to go with that.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
Yeah, that kind of missed for me. It did feel
out of place, like is that supposed to be like
the soul of the monkey or just death. And in
that case, why are you seeing him? Yeah? I don't
get it.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
I I is it because there's so much death that
he can't keep up, so his actual physical being is
seen like or or because of the apocalyt like it's
it is apocalyptic? Or is seeing one of the four
horsemen like that is? Are we supposed to infer that
the monkey just ended the world? Not just Casco.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Maybe? And somehow out of all that, how n PD
don't die? They did nothing wrong? That that was one
thing that I just I obviously we we've we've studied film,
we understand themes and film and motifs and all all
that jargon. I'm just it's just not clicking for me.

(42:29):
What what really this this represents? Like death is here,
but it just not clicking with me. Yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
If it was the if it was supposed to establish
the fact that the world is ending, that I'm into that.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
I guess the monk ended the world. It didn't seem
like that though. It just it just kind of seemed
like it was that town, like the Monkey's like, look
what I can do. I can end the world if
I want to my hand.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
If he ended the world over just bill. Fuck, that
would be kind of funny actually for my hand down.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Yeah, that would actually be kind of funny. I don't
I did. I only thought it was Casco as well.
Death does not take requests, So maybe Death was just
like be careful now, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (43:27):
Or maybe it was because they end up taking the
monkey and it's which by I was thinking that that's
what you should do. Anyway, I guess putting it in
the well is smart, but you know it can teleport,
so it's knowing that you might as well keep it
with you because as long as you can constantly see
the monkey and nobody's spinning it, you know, nobody's dying.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Right at that at that point in the plot, Yeah, yeah,
don't turn the key.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Well that's what they do. They keep it with them,
And I feel like maybe that's what it was. Maybe
Death was saying take care of the monk.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Death was being like, hey, I'll see you again if
you decide to turn that key. That was the only
time where like my mouth opened and I was kind
of in awe. I'm like, what the fuck am I
looking at it? Just it still has just not clicked
with me. Maybe maybe on the video version of this
people rand screen rant ending explained, please I need it.

(44:30):
I probably already. I don't even want to read it.
It's just they're probably gonna be like and then ghost
done to a horse, rode up and looked at him. Yeah,
and then they suggest they go dancing. Lois left dancing
Lois Oh, Lois.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
Yeah, and then they live happily ever after as far
as we know. So it seems well, I guess if
it's limited, I'll just say it did. Did Pete's mom live?
Is Elijah Wood alive?

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But if they're not in Casco, Yeah, they're probably still alive.
Well good hopefully uh pe d goes home and fights
for not not adoption, Yes, and hopefully hal I guess
at that point, you know, Hal is like, nah, we
got this, we got the monkey, we can control it.

(45:26):
So now we can actually see each other. You would
certainly think. So that's what I assume with him dancing, like, yeah,
let's go, let's go have fun. Let loose. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
So the monkey so it's a good time that it
is bad shit crazy, like they just described, just a
lot of over the top crazy kills. It's it's a
fucking monkey, bro, It's a toy Monkey, wind Up Monkey.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Yeah, it's got cheese. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
They went a little more all in with the comedy
than I anticipated. I mean, pretty the whole movie as
a joke. Yeah, Like racially it is like Hall and
Bill in their relationship and the way it ends, like
it's all just one big joke.

Speaker 1 (46:09):
I knew we went in doing knowing it was gonna
be a horror comedy. But yeah, yeah, like you said,
I don't think it was. I didn't think it was
gonna be that much comedy, but I still dug it. U.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, yeah, I had fun with it. My only complaint was,
and I told you this coming home, there's a weird
down period. I think it was after aunt Ida died
until like then basically until they find Bill or they
get start getting that, there's just this really twenty twenty

(46:40):
five minute down time where because the movie hits you
in the face with death like it's I mean literally
within five minutes, we have somebody some testines being pulled
across a fucking.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
A pawn shop.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
And then yeah, it has that moment or that twenty
minute period where just nothing really happen happens, and that
craziness kind of goes away and I felt that, I
felt it just kind of die for a little bit.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I mean that was when uh Roan Campbell. Ricky gets
the monkey at the state sale, sells it to Bill
to missus Monkey. Yeah, and then Bill tries to get
Hall and Peeney to the town and then Hal the

(47:28):
opens they opened the closet where the realtor gets her
blown up, blown apart, and then Bill calls the house
to Hal and how ends the conversation being like, wait
are you here? Are you in this town? And then
Bill hangs up, but he goes in the phone book.
It Bill's not in it. Why does he look at it?
Then he looks up monkey, missus Monkey, and then calls in.

(47:53):
It's Bill saying, my quest for the toy monkey from
my childhood has been fulfilled. Yeah, So like I understand
it was getting the monkey to Bill. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
It's basically the second act of the movie though, where
it's like Craziness Act two and then Craziness again. So
it just stands out as it's kind of.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Well, then it goes into the backstory Bill climbing down
the well finding the key doing crazy type of thing,
only wearing the tuxedo or the the suit his funeral suit. Yeah,
that's kind of dumb. Uh, So I can see that. Yeah,
we have we have Act one, which is a little
bit longer. Act two is short, but I guess important

(48:40):
because then how the monkey gets to Bill Bill it
explains the backstory of why Bill is doing this, and
then we go to act three where Ricky gets them
to Bill accidentally. Yeah, because he just wanted his death.

Speaker 3 (48:55):
By the way, Rowan Campbell's with the the Wasp, Okay,
that one, because a lot of these, not even now,
not so much this movie, because you think with Faunascination,
you're like, this could kind of happen, right, this could
kind of play out, but you're not just gonna have
wasp fucking breakthrough a windshield and only target that one

(49:17):
person and go into his throat.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Uh huh, Well, I think we're climbing out of his
nose and mouth then after yeah, yeah, and they just
kind of like peel through his skin and shit. And
that was pretty good though. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, I guess it's just that one is there's nothing
realistic about that one.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I suppose the monk chose Ricky.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Yeah, I guess the cobra and main thing isn't very
realistic either, But some of the killers, I know they
are exaggerated, like the execution of the water and blowing
him into pieces, but like it could happen technically being
stampled by deer, It could happen having an aneurysm or
whatever that happened to, or it could happen and.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
Then going all in on the gore with those kills
like that, that's the fun. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I did think ant IDAs, because they do this like freeze.
You know, we're freeze. I'm a talk You wonder how
I got here that kind of thing that do that
with Antidis death and when she her she runs into
the sign and her face is impaled, and I thought
that that looked weird as shit frozen. I don't know
if that actual effect was practical. I don't think it

(50:26):
was not her running into it, because it looked so
rotoscoped on the still image that I was like thrown
off by that effect a little bit, and they just
hold it there. It's kind of crazy how confident they
were in it.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, I I didn't. I guess maybe I wasn't looking
that hard. I don't know. I didn't feel that way,
but I definitely want to rewatch it.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
If you look at this is just kind of how
my fucking brain works. I watched too much to VFXRST react. Yeah,
would when her her face just it's like nothing happened
to her face. It's just rotoscope right here. It doesn't
actually smash it. Just yeah, it looks weird and it

(51:11):
would have been fine. You didn't hold on it. Well,
maybe they fucking hold on it.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
Maybe that's why they were Like it was kind of
far back, so maybe you couldn't tell. I don't know
if you were sitting in the front row of the
damn theater, you you'd be able to see it. I
mean you saw it. Well, yeah, like it's it's kinda
it's kind of uh, cameras kind of set backwards, so
like it's not as close up, so maybe you don't
people don't notice it.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
I'm surprising. It's need something more practical. If you're gonna
if you're gonna freeze on something it allows someone to
nitpick it, you should probably do it practically.

Speaker 1 (51:44):
Maybe maybe we should have went like from that cut
from that angle to the house and then freeze so
she's even further away so you can't tell yeah, I
don't know. I was gonna say this.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
I was thinking this a whole movie, and I can't believe
it wasn't the first thing I said about the movie,
this is a Christmas story, the horror film. Like that
is exactly how it feels. Man Like having How's voiceover
and the freezing and all that and just kind of
cutting in and explaining things, you go, was so Christmas story.

(52:21):
And especially when we're in the past and it's modern
how talking about the childhood like it was. I was like, Wow,
this is literally a Christmas story the horror movie.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Yeah, kind of. I'm big into I'm big into a
Christmas story. So so, yeah, we enjoyed it, though enjoyed
it a lot. Oh yeah, yeah, it's I gave it
a four out of five. I also gave it a
four out of five, and I was juggling with Hard Eyes,
which one I liked better? I like. I came to
the conclusion, as of now, Hard Eyes is still still

(52:54):
slightly edging. I scored Hard Eyes the same, the same,
but I like in terms of rewatchability that Hard Eyes
is a step up. I dropped my review or my
score of Hard Eyes from four and a half four.
Who so, hater, I already headed a four. I've only

(53:14):
seen both of them once, and it's definitely gonna be
ones that I rewatch as soon as it's on vod
or streaming right away. Yeah, it's what IMDb. It's got
a six point six out of ten. It's got a
seventy seven percent certified fresh from critics on Rotten Tomatoes,
and a sixty four from the audience.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
Yeah, honestly, I think a three and a half out
of five is probably a.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
More broad accurate score.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Of what the movie is. But it hit me in
the right places, so I gave it four.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Same third two hundred theaters box off in Mojo doesn't
have Saturday yet as of recording this, but it five
or seven point seven million to date, so it made
I point eight on Friday. Wasn't was the budget ten?
Budget was ten, So they need twenty million to profit
and between Thursday or early screenings and and Friday, the

(54:11):
twenty first, seven point seven. I mean, so they'll get
it this weekend. They'll make a profit this weekend for sure. Yeah. Yeah,
I wish Saturday was on here already.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Well, so I say in for Osgod Perkins, I did
like this significantly.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
More than Long Legs.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Long Legs is not funny. It goes a very It
felt too much like Sounds of the Lambs, but like
not as good as Sounds of the Lambs.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Love Silence of the Nicholas Cage is great, though. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:42):
I was just a little It took me. It took
me three tries to watch it all.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
The way through. I haven't seen Long Legs. I've heard
it is crazy. Oh yeah, it's it's weird. It's not
in today's world of horror, especially with things like the
substance and whatnot. It's not that weird, but it's weird.
I definitely definitely want to check it out. Oz Perkins man,

(55:07):
is he that guy? Can I call you Ozzie? No?
Oh please don't? Is that trademark? H? Yeah? Glad to
see uh, glad to see quote Nepple baby do succeeding
on his own.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
And now he's doing Keeper, which there was a teaser
for Keeper at the after the credits for the Monkey
also looks bad, shit crazy. I don't know what's happening
in it. It was just a lot of screaming and
I felt uncomfortable. Yeah, it was just music.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Over the women talking to each other and screaming yeah
and then scream and Tatian's in there again and she
scared me then too. Then termed me on maybe she's
pretty scary, yes, yes, yes, uh yeah, and that also
comes out this year. So so Oz's got to uh

(56:04):
to two films coming out this year. He's cooking, He's
he's cooking. Good for him? Yeah, that's a monkey. Anything
else that were just so desperately need to talk about
in this episode of Make Every of the count This
This definitely was the movie I was looking forward to
the most this year. Can you say something like that

(56:24):
when I know which last summer is coming out? Well
that was before? What do you mean about? Like this is?
This was the one that I was I was really
looking forward to and I met my met my expectations,
maybe exceeded them, had a great time. I don't know
what I'm looking forward to the most this year. We
did see a trailer for The Woman in the Yard. Yeah,

(56:45):
Blumhouse film, and actually looks decent.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
It looked like they were trying and I'm not so
sure Blum can say that.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
They fly out. They flexed it from a January release
to March, so yeah, they didn't want to dump it
in January or February, made it to March.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
Yeah, so it's not a night swim. Hopefully it was creepy.
I'm into that weird shit like that.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
Yeah, it looked interesting. Only a month of marketing though. Yeah,
So I think.

Speaker 3 (57:20):
I usually when Blum isn't marketing their movies very well,
it's because he knows it's bad. Yeah, and Jason Blum
is just like, let's just cut down our marketing budgets
cut in half to increase our odds of profiting, which might.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Be what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (57:35):
But I also think Jason Blum has a tremendous dependence
on VOD. I think he relies heavily on success with
streaming services, which is why he was one of the
first to dive into VOD and theaters of the same
day with Halloween Kills and allowen N's being on VOD
immediately and in theaters. So I could call him a genius,

(57:59):
could call him stupid.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
I don't know. It seemed to work out for Halloween.
They made a lot of money. Why waste money going
to theaters and no one's seeing it? When it's sort
of evergreen on vod I can understand that business model,
but you can't do both. You can't don't make shitty movies.
Well that's the thing, dude, if you make a good movie.

(58:23):
But that's not always true. Man, if you look at what's.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
I just saw a a graphic today that it was
like night Swim making fifty five million, and some other
shitty horror movies I can't remember. But then it was
like Pearl only made nine million or something like that.
Fair it was Pearl, Pearl, the Substance and something else. Oh,

(58:53):
I can see it. I'm zoning it out.

Speaker 1 (58:56):
Well, yeah, they they all made like ten million dollars
Pearl only, mate, I think nine million, right ten. It's
showing on on Wikipedia four point eight budget and ten
point one. That's interesting. But I think those first of all,
you're targeting is such a niche audience. The those audiences

(59:18):
for those horror movies, those are real horror fans, you know,
and that is a small demographic of people, I believe
it or not. So yeah, no one, no casual horror
fan is going to see the Substance or Pearl. It's
just not gonna happen. But I also don't think those
were marketed very well. Substance. Substance got a little more

(59:39):
traction with the normies. A lot of that was due
to performance, Yeah, like yeah, it's that's a crazy film
with a crazy performance. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
So yeah, but even then, like it was, it was
too late, It was too late.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
Yeah. So moral of the story, Jason Blum is the
greatest mind in film. Every once in a while, they
hit and there was another trailer that played beforehand that
we were like, oh, I mean Jason Blum produced this?
Did he not? No? No, this was not Blumhouse, not Blumhouse.

(01:00:19):
But isn't it a Jason Blum produced film? Or am
I crazy? I don't think so. It's James Waans, but
it's not not Blumhouse. Not. I bet he's said James Blum.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Probably, But this this was in development for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
since May twenty twenty four. They it was a bidding
war for domestic rights. So I think this was technically
filmed in twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two. There

(01:00:57):
was a copyright of twenty twenty three, twenty twenty three. Yeah,
on the intro that I saw, Yeah, twenty twenty three
and they were filmed February twenty twenty four. Nice, So
it's been a while. I've been a little while. Yeah,
and it was worth the wait. Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
This year still has Founzation Bloodlines, which I'm excited for.
I know it's last summer until Dawn.

Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
Borderline. Yeah, I mean, I'm not insanely excited for that,
but I am. I'm I'm excited for him, but it's
not And that's vod On in theaters. Yeah, on the
same day.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Why am I swinging on every horror movie this year?
Scream Seven's next year, Megan, I mean, I thought there
was some other franchises coming back.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
We even have this calendar, Google calendar. I don't think
so it's asked me to access the calendar. Who cares?
It's fine. I mean, if you're uh member, stay tuned
to our summits where we talk about, you know, what
episodes we're gonna do every month at the beginning of
the month, and that's how, uh, that's how you find out, uh,

(01:02:12):
how we remind ourselves what's coming out. Yeah, half the
time there's Borderline, Opus, Death of Unicorn. Who is that?

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
That's Finnwolf Hard written, directed, and starring. No, no, no, that's
that's no, that's the that's a hell of a summer too.
Actually that wass super fun. Yeah, that's fin wolf Hard, directed,
written by, and starring. Yeah. Death of Unicorn. I don't
don't remember what that's about. At the top of my head,
it's exactly what it sounds like. What do you mean

(01:02:43):
with General Artaga, General Artaga, that's right, Yeah, we're unicorner
and and Paul Rutt. It's Paul h Paul Run, General Taga.
I think Jeneral takes his daughter. They kill a unicorn,
they kill that's the movie. Horror comedy, dark comedy, thriller. Yep,

(01:03:06):
so there's that. Will Poulter's in it too. Ah so
now we gotta love that guy. That's March twenty eighth.

Speaker 3 (01:03:14):
Yeah, hell, the summer is April fourth, so yeah, all
these are coming up. Clowning a corn field twenty eight
days later. I forgot about that one.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
That was the other one twenty eight years or well
years later, twenty eight years later.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, sorry, the Conjuring the last right Black Phone two. Yeah,
Predator bad Land still supposed to come out, although I
think that's getting delayed probably financial Freddy's two.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Yeah, just what a year. What a year. There's some
heaters this year.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Plus see millions of originals that are gonna come out
in there that are probably several of them are gonna cook.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
So yeah, yeah, stuff that aren't even on our radar
that are gonna come out and be a gym. Yeah,
and all theirs.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
I mean they already released Dark Match this year. I
mean that was top of the line. It's actually it
was actually kind of fun. It was terrible, but it
was kind of fun.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
I have not seen it. Christ Jericho puts on an
incredible performance. He really does. He went all in.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I gotta say that he tried, and that's more than
you can say about his aw career currently.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Oh boom, damn, damn.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I mean he is pretty bad. I started watching he
can't wrestle anymore. He's washed, and then the story's so
bad that it's even worse.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
How cheap are those tickets? Though? Cheap? Cheap, cheap because
they never sell out? Yeah yeah, Champ, but they got money,
so it's okay, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
That's going to wrap this episode of Make Every Deathcount,
Thanks so much for listening to Back next week is
supposed to be doing it, and I know, I know
what you did last summer. So many words, recasting video,
will see if that happens. Maybe something else will pop
up on a radar this week that we end up
reviewing instead. I also have an interview up coming for
the Death of snow White. Which would it came out

(01:05:03):
this week with the Monkey Monk. That's it, all right
with that is always Thank you guys so much for listening,
and we'll talk to you next time.

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