March 16, 2025 • 37 mins
In this episode of Make Every Death Count, Riley sits down with the cast and crew of The Death of Snow White, coming to theaters April 2025!
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Make Every Death Count, brought to you by the Slashing
Cast Podcast Network. Today, I'm your only host. My name
is Riley. Today we have a very special episode for you,
as this is an interview I did a couple of
months back for the upcoming film The Death of snow White,
(01:01):
and as it approaches its Los Angeles premiere on March
twenty first, I felt now was the time to get
this interview out there into the world, especially as they're
looking to a Nationwine release in April. The Death of
snow White's directed by Jason Brooks, who you may know
from the fan films Friday at Thirteenth, Vengeance as well
as Vengeance two and Roseblood. He is my favorite fan
(01:25):
film Jason. I think he absolutely nails it, and that's
why he's been so popular at conventions because he is
such a great Jason Vorhees. But he's also proven himself
to be a great director, as he did direct Vengeance two,
and of course he's a great special effects artist. So
that's one of the reasons I was excited for this
film in the first place. The death of snow White.
(01:47):
While it is still the story of snow White that
you know and love, it's the original tale, that darker
version of the story that you may have heard of,
and you're combining that story with the skills of Jason
and his girlfriend Naomi, who was well as extremely talented
special effects artists. I'm so curious to see what they do,
(02:10):
how they apply their skill set to the story of
snow White, and you can find out soon, like I said,
premiering next week March twenty first in Hollywood and the
nationwide release in April. But this interview is super cool
because it includes eleven eleven cast and crew members, So
(02:30):
we brought in a whole bunch of people and it
was a lot of fun to sit down and get
to know them and let them build up the excitement
for us. But I don't want to yap forever. I
just wanted to make sure we got the introduction there.
But without further ado, here is my exclusive interview with
the cast and crew of the Death of Snow White.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Enjoy. Hi everyone, my name is Andrew Scott Bell. I'm
the film. I'm a film a TV composer, and I'll
be writing the music or I am currently writing the
music with the Death of Snow White.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Guys, my name is christ and because I played the
Prince and the Death of snow White.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Hi, I'm Chelsea Edmondson. I play the evil Queen.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
My name is Snaia Luss and I play snow White.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's my name is Michael De Santo and I play
the character of White.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
My name is Eric Pope and I am playing the
role of Tiny.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
I'm Alie Chapman and I played the role of Arsta.
Speaker 9 (03:24):
Hi.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
I'm Resa May and I play the role of Pollen,
one of the seven Dwarfs.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My name is Colin Miller and I played Bow and
the Death of Snow White and the Bird's.
Speaker 11 (03:33):
My name is Jeremy Helen. I play the role of
Dozer in the Death of snow White.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My name is Dylan Moore. I played Sunny in the
Death of snow.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That was impressive. I mean, we've already acomplished something here today,
but I do want to start just getting you started here.
The snow White, especially out of like all of these
classic fairy tale stories, has been done many times, many
many times. There's been weird takes on it. But the
(04:02):
Death of snow White to me, from what I've seen,
is it's this really unique combination of being very artistically driven,
being scary, but also still telling a unique and loving
story we like true romance to follow as well. So
in your opinion, and whoever wants to start, I don't know,
maybe we want to start with you, Sinaia as snow
White is what about this story, you know, written and
(04:26):
directed by Jason Brooks makes it different from what we've
seen before.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think the biggest thing is just our snow White
combines a lot of elements from like true like historical
like happenings, as well as like it's a lot more
of the grim version, which we haven't really seen told
a lot in the film sphere, and also like pretty
(04:53):
awesome effects.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So it has already of very big blood.
Speaker 9 (04:59):
I mean, yeah, that's what it's going to make it
stand out as well. I'm a big fan of the
Evil Dead, Dead Alive. I haven't seen this much blood
since those the days of those movies.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, the effects really stand out in this picture. From
the practical effects really stand out. I'd even add hell
Raiser to that are a little bit a little bit
of a hell Raiser. Once everyone sees the movie, they'll
see the scene I'm specifically thinking about. But yeah, there's
a lot of heart in this picture, and that's like
really important to me on projects that I choose to
(05:33):
work on. Is like, I work on a lot of
horror movies and I try to pick I try to
pick the ones that I think, you know, I have
a little bit more than just the thrills and kills,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, I think that's from an outside of looking in
that's kind of just seeing Jason Brooks any project he's
working on is what gets me excited, because he does
have the writing chops and everybody knows that he loves effects, right,
there's very talented efects artists. So just kind of going
off of that, what was it like actually seeing those
effects in action, like on set, because it's one thing
(06:08):
seeing it on a film, but where it can be terrifying,
but I feel like it's just a blast to watch
on set.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Christin, you told the story the other day. I saw
you tell the story the other day about a fire extinguisher. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (06:23):
I don't want to give too much away, but there
were some practical effects where you know, Eric did say
that there was forty gallons of blood and in order
for them to use this forty gallons of blood, they
used fire extinguishers to spray a lot of that blood
on different characters. Other prosthetics that they used, like was
(06:44):
a hand that looked incredibly real. Like I myself love
special effects making up and I can tell which which
looks good and which looks bad, but that it was
so realistic and I knew exactly what hand they molded,
and I was like, Jason, is this your hand? And
he goes yes, and I take pictures. I showed it
to everyone and they're like, why are you showing me
a hand? And I was like, no, that's a prosthetic
(07:05):
and they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No way.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So it's it looks really real like they're like in
the trailer.
Speaker 12 (07:12):
You see Chelsea's eye about to get you know, sewn
eyelashes together.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Spoiler alerts that's not her real life, but insane.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, it wasn't. As it turns out, it wasn't. Thankfully
it looks real.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Our effects team, it's incredibly impressive on this movie. It's
the most impressive of any movie I've worked on in
terms of the practical effects and just the things that
they build and like the bones, you know, and the
individual hair follicles and all the things.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That's very detail oriented.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And uh, my fitting was at Jason Naomi's house, which
their kind of front room living area was kind of
a workshop of all these ghoulish things or kind of
like walking through a morgue. There was just like bodies
everywhere and limbs and things with bones sticking out, and
there were just things that they were building and then
(08:09):
their little troll dogs just like you know, like you're
running through all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Is awesome, I.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Will tell you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They definitely took their time on doing these prosthetics. The
detail was immaculate. It was insane.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yeah, you couldn't be squeamish as an actress, you I mean,
just the blood alone.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I mean, you know you definitely you couldn't be like you.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Had to just you know, like power through it and
not you know, realize obviously you know you're you're on
set with these incredible effects, but definitely, like you know,
if you ate a big lunch like you, I don't know,
you like, oh God, like look at all that blood.
Speaker 11 (08:54):
I remember there was one point I was walking on
sat backstage and they was someone lying down as I
was approaching, and I was like, oh they okay, Like
why are they lying down? There was a couple of
people looking over them, and as I got closer, I
was like, it's supposed to okay, they're not like moving
all the rest, so they're just lying there and a
couple of.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
People attending there.
Speaker 11 (09:13):
And as I got closer, it was literally a prosthetic
of an entire body, but like the bottom half had
been ripped, and that people looking over it were just
inspecting it like they picture.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It looked good.
Speaker 11 (09:25):
I honestly thought it was a real person approaching it
and they were just lying there and these folks were
talking to them.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It looked that real.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
And then wasn't until I got right up close and
saw that they were missing the bottom half of their body.
It was like, whoa this is This is like one
of the first days I was there and I was like, Okay,
if this is what we're working with, this is phenomenal.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
Yeah, I want to add to that that because I
was there for the body laying on the grass, and
I think I was walking with you, but I got
up really close to the body and you could see
the individual hairs that they've put on, the lashes and
the eyebrows, and the makeup and the skin coloring. Everything
(10:09):
looked so natural, and everything looked so real, but like
natural I guess for a dead person because the body
was most but it looked so real. It was ridiculous
and kind of veering off of like the special effects stuff.
I do have a question for Chelsea, just because some
(10:31):
of the stuff that I'd seen, like in the trailer,
looks like it would have taken like hours for you
to get ready to do. How long was like your
longest I guess makeup prep time, like real makeup. Yeah,
for like the special effects that they.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Did, I mean every day, it was like a couple hours.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
But it also wasn't non stop because our hair and
makeup team weren't.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Doing everyone, so like I don't really know what the longest.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Consecutive would be because it would be like I got
my hair done and then the hair would have to switch,
and then I'd go through makeup, and then they'd be
like maybe some time in the outdoor.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I had an outdoor tent for the things that I
had to.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Do with my body, like bluing leeches on me and stuff,
so I would kind of like get a little makeup,
then I'd get a coffee, then I'd get a little
I mean, every day it was like a two hour
block of just all the things before I would come
to said, I was just there like two hours early
every day.
Speaker 10 (11:30):
Wow, that's crazy, yeah, because they actually when we were
doing the shoot for some of Chelsea's scenes, they had
a completely separate makeup and wardrobe tent for her because
there was a lot of special effect stuff they were
doing that we were not privy to, so some of
it we didn't even like see how it was done
(11:50):
because that was kind of secret to their trade.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So that stuff was.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Actually kind of fast.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Oddly, the effects stuff like was pretty fast, Like we're
it took a while to get into every day beauty
makeup takes a long time, you know, it just does
and like hair, but the effects stuff for me was
actually pretty fast because it was just like five or
six people tag teaming me and sticking things on me
and like like that part actually.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Was usually the last thing we did, and it was
just like a lot. That was the biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Is like a lot of people touch me and around
me all the time, like five or six people. So
if you're like a claustrophobic person or don't like people
touching you around you all the time, I think that
would be hard. But I was fine, you know, but
I think I thought about that a lot. I'm like,
if you're someone that really doesn't like people like around
your touching, this in the hard because there was always
(12:40):
like people sticking things on.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Me and taking things off me.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Did you have to be cast at all or did
any of you have to actually get a cast to
your face or your body? I'd had a body cast
that I feel like that's when the claustophobia hits a
peek because you're just stuck there.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I didn't do a face that was okay, do
a face cast.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I've never done like what's called a life cast where
it's like your whole face is covered, and then I
think sometimes they even have to put straws in your
nose and stuff, and to be honest, I don't think
I could. I actually was panicking kind of the night
before and this is like before I met Jason. Naomi
was texting them to make sure it wasn't one of
those because I was like, I don't know if I
(13:23):
can do that, and I'm sure as shit cannot do
that sober. So I was like, I need to know
what's going on because I would need prescription medication to
get through that, that's like.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And they were like, no, no, no, like it's just
your body. And I was like, okay, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I've had that done.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
And yes, you're right about the straw But the thing
that's also we don't talk about as that if you
have to shave and put tape on, so the beard
had to go.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So my wife was not happy at all.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So, yeah, but you're right about the cal You just
have to stay still and you're just you know, yeah,
you have to concentrate on your breathing.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Not a fun experience.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, I don't think it sounds fun. I had to
do half one once. That's the most I've ever done.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
So my mouth was still like totally open, like I
could mouth breathe it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I was speaking out Chelsea. You mentioned that this the
effects on the Death of snow Wide are like the
best that you've worked with, did you I think so?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, homo practical.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Did you get to like experience anything on Army of
the Dead or No.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Army of the Dead was interesting because it was I'm
in a scene with just one other actor named Steve Corona,
and he actually dialect coach me on this movie.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
He's a really good coach. But so Steve and I
had a scene together. But we shot that scene.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Over two weeks, so we were on set with the
other actors all the time, like you know, and we
would see them at launch and talk to them and stuff.
But we felt like we were making our own separate
movie of just like us falling in love and you know,
riding around in a cool car and just me having.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
A good time.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
But I did get to see there. What was really
impressed about that it was the set that they built
for Vegas. You know, I got to see that and
that was crazy. I mean it was like they built
like part of the strip and just had it all
like for cocked and leaning signs down, zombies everywhere, zombies
at lunch like that was very very cool. But I
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only got to see them shoot like two scenes in
between mine. I got to watch Dave Bautista and Ronald
Castillo do this cool fight scene and I got to
see some of their stunts and things.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Which was really neat. But I didn't get to see
a ton of their effects.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
And I would imagine that they had more digital type
effects than our movie. And I feel like a lot
of people will really like that Depth of Snow White
is so practical and doesn't I mean, we have some
digital effects too, but we're not relying on that. And
I am really excited for people that are like super
if you're like a nerd and you're really into practical effects,
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and I love that stuff, and I just think people
are gonna love.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That about our movie.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah. I was only bring it up because I say,
you saying that definitely shows just the caliber of what
Depth of Snow Ice bringing the table right, because the
budget difference between those two films is pretty drastic.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So I feel like our set design.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I mean that like the budget for Army and the
Dead was like, I think close to seventy million dollars
and obviously they can build the Vegas and all that stuff,
which was so impressive. But I was really impressed on
our movie when I got there and saw the sets
that were built in the woods and stuff, because I
know that we're known.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Near We're nowhere near any kind of like big budget.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
You know, it's an independent film, and our sets are
designed so well and for what was spent on them,
they look incredible. Like, it's very impressive to me what
our team was able to pull off on this movie
for the budget.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It's it's really really neat.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, it actually it blows my mind as someone who
has worked at the exact spot that that set is.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
And you know, for U.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Snaia being in your backyard like that, it's crazy, guys.
It's almost let me a picture from set. I'm like,
there's no way that's the backyard. There's no way that's
what we're looking at. So yeah, I think it's it's incredible.
I mean, it's an incredible transformation. Granted in her backyard
is gigantic. It is, yeah, it is, but they made
good use of it for sure. That I was seriously
blown away when I saw it, super beautiful. What was
(17:23):
it like for you, Snaya having your whole house continue
to be transformed like once a month.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I let's just say I'm glad that I don't live
there all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's kind of a lot.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's cool, but it's a lot like you just like
your construction and I'd rather get annoyed at a neighbor.
But it's like, oh, it's just dad building a castle
in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh right, right, right, yeah cool.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
What was it like for you guys, like walking onto
set for the first time, because it's got to feel
like walking into like Disney World.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Have you ever been of the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I haven't. I've seen pictures of it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, it's it's straight up walking into the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yes, it's like that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's exactly like I got transported back in time. It's
so incredible. Yeah, you go into the Renaissance Festival and
then another path is the castle. So we made a lot.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
We made do with a lot that we had with
the area that we were given, and it looks seamless
and spot on like when you when we were looking
at it through playback, like we could obviously see the
ending of the set. We could obviously see like, oh,
Renaissance Festival and then there's a house. So but when
(18:34):
you see it on playback, like you you are teleported
back into another worlds.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It was amazing.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I worked for the Renaissance fairs. I my character there
is well, it's on the ferry smasher. But I was
going to say that we actually did recruit and bring
in a lot of the Rennies. So some of the
tents you saw were provided by some of our pirate folks.
We also brought in like Seattle Knights for you know,
so you like so, yes, you do feel like you're
being pulled back because some of the talents, some of
the people that we brought in are very much medieval performers.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Which I think that's genius, by the way, Like what
a smart way to immediately upgrade your set without really
spending a ton of money. It's like, hey, come show
off what you guys do on a daily basis.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
Absolutely in flamethrower are they brought in flame throwers, an
aerial list, jugglers, the whole nine yards. We had We
had a we had an area where we couldn't be
close to flame flame throwers, otherwise we would have been
burned alive.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
It was really cool seeing the horses too, Like it
was just it was so amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I just I loved it. Yeah, I imagine stunts in
general were probably pretty apparent on set. I mean, I mean,
how much did you guys have to go through?
Speaker 10 (19:52):
Sun Wise, we all basically kind of did our own stunts.
We didn't have any stunt doubles. So if there was
a stunt that we didn't know how to do, we
kind of learned how to do it during the filming.
So like I Jeremy actually, who was in this call,
he taught me how to do like a forward role
(20:14):
for one of the stunts that I was supposed to do.
And we all kind of do a little bit of
fight choreography. That was really really fun. It was I
think that might have been my first brush with fight choreo.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So yeah, it really.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Brush girl, you were you are hitting it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Thank you for aught.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It was violence.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
Yeah, had like their own specific really cool weapon. Colin,
you had some fight stuff.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
Right, Yeah, I had what was it? It was like
a giant pick axe. We Yeah, we all kind of
had like our own really really cool weapons. They were
all handmade. I was like this pick axe that was
bigger than me. I think my favorite weapon that I
saw had to be Collins weapon.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It was the best one, the coolest.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Act that my character made himself, and he showed it
and he designed it. But yeah, I mean, in my opinion,
the coolest kills.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
So he had some pretty bad kills.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely was bad ass. But the weapons
themselves were really well designed and it was a lot
of fun. As Reese said, I've done some previous stunt
stuff before, so yeah, I was teaching her how to
do forwarder and all that sort of stuff, and there
was a moment where we were told to sort of
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like sort of practice come up with like our own
sort of like sort of routines and things that we
could do for some stunt corier stuff. And I remember
I sort of went off and was practicing a couple
of things. You know, I wait for everyone else, so
you know, safety first and all the rest of it.
And at one point I was doing something I'm not
going to say what of this is because it would spoiler,
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but I had the.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
First ad.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
China basically shout out my name at some point I
was like, but I looked over.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
She was like, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Could you do that again?
Speaker 11 (22:24):
I was like, well, yeah, that's what I'm planning to
hopefully do. But the way she like yelled at me,
I thought I was getting told off for something. So
I was practicing it, but she was super impressed by
and I was like, yes, okay, that's obviously a green light,
so I'm happy with that. So we got to incorporate
our own little spin on our little like fight scenes,
which was really really fun. I love that we got
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to sort of bring our own sort of personal touch
to our own obviously the weapons and approach to fight
scenes as well.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, the same team was like super collaborative.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
They let us come up with our own stuff, add
whateverybody like change some stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
But yeah, it stunts for very fun.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's something that I love about this movie is that
all the characters are very vibrant and they have their
own like every every single character is unique and different
and has their own flare, you know, And that's hard
to accomplish in a movie with so with such a
big cast, right, Like a lot of indie horror movies
you have like one or two main characters and then
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everyone else is just like, you know, fodder for the kills.
But this, like looking at this panel, there's like ten
ten all main characters, and they're all so unique and
they all have their own flare so that when they're
on screen, you're you're compelled by all of them individually.
And that's really hard to accomplish on you know, you know,
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a micro budget thing. And I think that's a testament
to each of these actors bringing a bit of their
own you know, energy and fun and ideas to that character.
At least that's how it comes across, you know. I'm
working on the Locked picture, so at least that's how
it comes across. I don't know what it was like
on set, but working on the on the final film,
it really feels that way.
Speaker 12 (24:10):
Yeah, I'll say a lot of a lot of us
when we were in the fight choreography, we all just
wanted it to look cool. We wanted to not only
be seamless and make it look real, but also look
cool and make sure that everyone is having a fun time.
Like working with the fight choreography, like they would have
one suggestion and then I would like, would.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It be cooler if I did this, and like, oh yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
So me having gymnastics background, I was able to do
a little bit more things that they think that they
thought I couldn't do.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So we were just all having a great time and
just trying to make it look cool.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I think you guys succeeded just from the little bit
that I've seen. I mean, the end of the trailer
had me pretty hyped up.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I was.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I was enjoying the end of the trailer. And one
of the things actually that adds to that is I
think actually hiring actors with dwarfism, it makes such a
massive difference, and it is like it's a very notable
thing right now because somebody decided not to do that recently,
somebody decided that CGI was the better route to go
for that. So you can, you guys talkbout that a
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little bit, just like what that changes with the dynamic,
even the the if you want to exaggerate or talk
more about stunts as well. Just there's so much more
fun to.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Have with that.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
I think, Yeah, I think honestly, I think it's so
refreshing to actually have little people come in as actors
for the Seven Dwarves, just because I feel like we're
so highly caricatured in media already that it's nice to
kind of have us portray people with dwarfs and real
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dwarfs who are real flesh and body, where humanistic characters
were not being put in there as a novelty where
they walk that fine line between i mean caricature and
stereotype and realism. And I think they did a really
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really good job with doing that respectfully, and that was
really cool. You know, like they painted us in a
really good light, they painted us in a badass light,
so it kind of feels like we are taking our
power back in that sense. That's something that I really
appreciated from them.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, I love how we were represented in this film
and I and I love how our characters were just
so powerful. And I feel like that's what you know,
when you know, you see little people on you know,
film and TV, it's like we're just you know, we're
we're lacking that that power that like we are, you know, amazing.
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And so I really love how Jason and Naomi, you know,
just showed how our characters were and show that we were,
you know, just as just as as you know, amazing
as the Knightsman and all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So it was it was great.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
It was so refreshing to be in a film like this.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Yeah, it just goes to show that like all of
us as well, it's been little people with dwarfism, we
also have different types of dwarfism. We're not all limited
to the same types. So there are differences between all
of us that you know is different to our body type,
body structure and all the rest of it. So back
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to like the stunt stuff for example, and as like
Tristan was saying, giving us that flexibility of trying things
out and letting it like them, letting us show them
what we're capable of able to do, as opposed to
people just assuming and putting us in a type slot
or being like, oh no, you you probably can't do that,
or you probably can't do this. But it's like they
were literally I've been the floor been like, hey, if
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you've got ideas, if you've got extra skills that you
want to incorporate or anything like that, now's the time
to do it. So it was nice to be able
to be ourselves show the skills that we've learned through life.
Depending on whatever background we've all obviously followed and be
able to portray that as ourselves on screen in.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
A really badass cool way.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
So it was nicely Jason and Iaomi actually allowed us
to portray ourselves and portray the character that we wanted
to in a way that respected it and stayed true
to us.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah. Uh, that's exactly what came to my mind earlier
when Colin brought it up that they were everyone was flexible,
like being having a stun team and a choreography team
that's flexible. That makes all the difference in the world
because people have so many hidden talents you just don't know.
You just don't know until they're put in front of you,
even no idea what people are capable of. So I'm
glad that they were not locked into a certain move
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set or anything and allowed you guys to shine.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
They are do work for badass.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
You know, they were twenty little fighters.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They were ripping it up.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Yeah, I think it was really really cool all that
we weren't kind of depicted as like, you know, a
one dimensional stereotypical like seven dwarves, and I mean, look
at tiny, look at Eric's character. That's definitely like very
very different from the seven Dwarfs that you know are
depicted in the Grim's fairy Tale book. And everyone was
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kind of able to put their own spin on these characters.
And it's really cool to have to see them with
you know, full personalities, like a full life.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Everyone had their own personality.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, And actually I was curious because you were talking
about that as well earlier, Andrew, is that how everyone
is kind of their own main character? And for you,
when you're composing music for that is is that kind
of opened some doors for you to kind of I
don't write specific themes for characters or I don't know
how what is it like even just scoring for a
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Runnissan style film? What is that like for you?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, that's a great question, Thank you. It's it is
a lot of fun. This movie is unique to other
pictures that I've scored because there are so many characters,
Like you know, I've worked on the Winnie the Pooh,
Blood and Honey series, and who has a theme, and
Christopher Robin has a theme, and you know Tigger in
the in the sequel and Number two, Tigger has a theme,
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and Awl has light motifs. And I really enjoy that
type of film scoring.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
So it is.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It has been really rewarding to work on a movie
like this where kind of like I won't say that
the musically it's like Lord of the Rings, but in
the way that Lord of the Rings has so many
characters and so many opportunities for light motifs and themes,
like Star Wars is the same way. I'm really having
fun just kind of like putting a little flair for
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each character as I go. Uh, snow White has a
lullaby theme that that is that plays. The Prince has
his own little fanfare, which is really cool. Snow White
and the Prince, the two like together. Their relationship has
a theme that I think I've posted that one already. Obviously,
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the Evil Queen has a theme, and all the Dwarves
have these little you know, whether it's like a little
bit of an instrument for this character or something that
that when this character does something, that little instrument plays.
You know. It's been really fun to do that, and
having those themes and motifs and little nods weave together
in certain scenes is really cool. And of course the Dwarves,
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you know, the character of the Dwarves, they they have
this this song that they sing with snow White that
has a lot of you know, I could say that,
but it has. It has a lot of significance to
the story, and that has become a main theme that
you hear throughout the picture, not only when they sing
it in that scene, but in the in the music,
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in the actual score. It's the first thing you hear
when the when the starts at the very opening of
the movie, is that main theme. So I'm really bringing
these characters to the forefront of musically, to the forefront
of the score.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I'm I love what you did with Button, Honey, and
that's such an oddball a couple movies there that to
be able to ground a score so great with then,
And I was, I think it's really cool and it
shows how talented you are. So I'm really excited to
see we do it this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's I was working on.
When I was working on Poutu, the trailer came out,
posters started going up around Los Angeles, and I was
still scoring the movie like it, working in posts and
especially like film composing, which is like one of the
last parts of posts film, the soundtrack, sound design, color
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correction like those are like the last big three that
have and then of course the dub the mix, so
scoring them. You know, there's I I grew up listening
to and reading interview of film composers. That's what I
wanted to do all most of my life. And so
there are tons and tons of horror stories of like
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people studios putting up like billboards next to the composer's
recording studio like coming soon, and it's like no pressure.
You know, they're still writing the music. Is the billboard
is steering them through the window, you know.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
So yeah, there is a lot of pressure, but you know,
you just you kind of just get buckled down and
get used to knowing that, like, okay, it's got to
be March fifth, and that's when I got to you know,
the train is going to the station and I can't
you know, I can't deliver late kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You just get used to that being your reality as
this part of the film industry. So you have a clip, right, Riley,
you have a clip.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, I've got to figure out how to share something
in here and zoom.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Ye.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Incredible job.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That was all. Thank you. I'm I'm excited for you
all to see the finished product. And then the soundtrack
will come out the same day the movie head theaters
and stuff like that. So when I first met with
Jason on our first Zoom call and he was looking
at me and a couple of other composers, I said
to him, I'm not gonna lie. I don't normally do this,
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but I want to tell you my pitch, like straight up,
because I because this is what I want to do,
and you know, I want to know if you're not
on board with that. I don't normally do that, you know.
I don't normally say right off the bat, like I
watched your movie and this is what I'm excited about,
you know. And I told him I want to write
a score that is brave heart horror.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yes, that's where we're going, definitely, dude, Like you guys said,
like the ren Fair is there, and there's like kind
of a mix of all these like you know, obviously
Snow White is a Germanic tale, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was like, Jason, do we want to go only
like do we want to go true to German? Germanic?
But you have you have different swords and weapons from
all over Europe and accents from different parts of the UK,
and he was like, let's just musically mash all of
that together. So you have bagpipes, you have Irish flutes,
you know, Scottish drums, you have you know, Germanic folk
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instruments and dulcimer's, and it's just kind of like a
stew of, you know, because it doesn't take place in
any specific place. It takes place in this you know
fairy tale, you know land that's not specifying. So we
just kind of made like a potle like stew of
a bunch of different ingredients musically that I think is
really fun to play with.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So I'm so excited. That was so epic.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It made me really want to see what the visuals
are that go with it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, you know, big studio pictures are fun because they
have a lot of money and they can afford big
practical effects. But indie films have heart that can't be
replicated because in order to make an independent film, people
have to come together and like wear different hats and
you know, build different roles and do choreography yourself and
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in order you know, everyone's more invested than just their
role on an independent picture because you know, it takes
a family to make one of these Uh, these lower
budget pictures. And that's what I'm excited for people to
see is the family like on display that I'm just
now getting to know, but that I can tell working
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on the picture. I can tell that there was a big,
happy family on set making it all together. So that's
what I'm excited for people to see.
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What's happening? Love is what's going on. We're gonna get tropical.
We're gonna get tropical. Welcome back to another episode of
Make Every Death Count, brought to you by the Slashing
Cast Podcast Network. Today, I'm your only host. My name
is Riley. Today we have a very special episode for you,
as this is an interview I did a couple of
months back for the upcoming film The Death of snow White,
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and as it approaches its Los Angeles premiere on March
twenty first, I felt now was the time to get
this interview out there into the world, especially as they're
looking to a Nationwine release in April. The Death of
snow White's directed by Jason Brooks, who you may know
from the fan films Friday at Thirteenth, Vengeance as well
as Vengeance two and Roseblood. He is my favorite fan
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film Jason. I think he absolutely nails it, and that's
why he's been so popular at conventions because he is
such a great Jason Vorhees. But he's also proven himself
to be a great director, as he did direct Vengeance two,
and of course he's a great special effects artist. So
that's one of the reasons I was excited for this
film in the first place. The death of snow White.
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While it is still the story of snow White that
you know and love, it's the original tale, that darker
version of the story that you may have heard of,
and you're combining that story with the skills of Jason
and his girlfriend Naomi, who was well as extremely talented
special effects artists. I'm so curious to see what they do,
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how they apply their skill set to the story of
snow White, and you can find out soon, like I said,
premiering next week March twenty first in Hollywood and the
nationwide release in April. But this interview is super cool
because it includes eleven eleven cast and crew members, So
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we brought in a whole bunch of people and it
was a lot of fun to sit down and get
to know them and let them build up the excitement
for us. But I don't want to yap forever. I
just wanted to make sure we got the introduction there.
But without further ado, here is my exclusive interview with
the cast and crew of the Death of Snow White.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Enjoy. Hi everyone, my name is Andrew Scott Bell. I'm
the film. I'm a film a TV composer, and I'll
be writing the music or I am currently writing the
music with the Death of Snow White.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Guys, my name is christ and because I played the
Prince and the Death of snow White.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Hi, I'm Chelsea Edmondson. I play the evil Queen.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
Hi.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
My name is Snaia Luss and I play snow White.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
It's my name is Michael De Santo and I play
the character of White.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
My name is Eric Pope and I am playing the
role of Tiny.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Hi.
Speaker 8 (03:19):
I'm Alie Chapman and I played the role of Arsta.
Speaker 9 (03:24):
Hi.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
I'm Resa May and I play the role of Pollen,
one of the seven Dwarfs.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
My name is Colin Miller and I played Bow and
the Death of Snow White and the Bird's.
Speaker 11 (03:33):
My name is Jeremy Helen. I play the role of
Dozer in the Death of snow White.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
My name is Dylan Moore. I played Sunny in the
Death of snow.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
That was impressive. I mean, we've already acomplished something here today,
but I do want to start just getting you started here.
The snow White, especially out of like all of these
classic fairy tale stories, has been done many times, many
many times. There's been weird takes on it. But the
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Death of snow White to me, from what I've seen,
is it's this really unique combination of being very artistically driven,
being scary, but also still telling a unique and loving
story we like true romance to follow as well. So
in your opinion, and whoever wants to start, I don't know,
maybe we want to start with you, Sinaia as snow
White is what about this story, you know, written and
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directed by Jason Brooks makes it different from what we've
seen before.
Speaker 6 (04:31):
I think the biggest thing is just our snow White
combines a lot of elements from like true like historical
like happenings, as well as like it's a lot more
of the grim version, which we haven't really seen told
a lot in the film sphere, and also like pretty
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awesome effects.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
So it has already of very big blood.
Speaker 9 (04:59):
I mean, yeah, that's what it's going to make it
stand out as well. I'm a big fan of the
Evil Dead, Dead Alive. I haven't seen this much blood
since those the days of those movies.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, the effects really stand out in this picture. From
the practical effects really stand out. I'd even add hell
Raiser to that are a little bit a little bit
of a hell Raiser. Once everyone sees the movie, they'll
see the scene I'm specifically thinking about. But yeah, there's
a lot of heart in this picture, and that's like
really important to me on projects that I choose to
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work on. Is like, I work on a lot of
horror movies and I try to pick I try to
pick the ones that I think, you know, I have
a little bit more than just the thrills and kills,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, I think that's from an outside of looking in
that's kind of just seeing Jason Brooks any project he's
working on is what gets me excited, because he does
have the writing chops and everybody knows that he loves effects, right,
there's very talented efects artists. So just kind of going
off of that, what was it like actually seeing those
effects in action, like on set, because it's one thing
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seeing it on a film, but where it can be terrifying,
but I feel like it's just a blast to watch
on set.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Christin, you told the story the other day. I saw
you tell the story the other day about a fire extinguisher. Yeah.
Speaker 12 (06:23):
I don't want to give too much away, but there
were some practical effects where you know, Eric did say
that there was forty gallons of blood and in order
for them to use this forty gallons of blood, they
used fire extinguishers to spray a lot of that blood
on different characters. Other prosthetics that they used, like was
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a hand that looked incredibly real. Like I myself love
special effects making up and I can tell which which
looks good and which looks bad, but that it was
so realistic and I knew exactly what hand they molded,
and I was like, Jason, is this your hand? And
he goes yes, and I take pictures. I showed it
to everyone and they're like, why are you showing me
a hand? And I was like, no, that's a prosthetic
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and they're like.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
No way.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
So it's it looks really real like they're like in
the trailer.
Speaker 12 (07:12):
You see Chelsea's eye about to get you know, sewn
eyelashes together.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Spoiler alerts that's not her real life, but insane.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Yeah, it wasn't. As it turns out, it wasn't. Thankfully
it looks real.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
Our effects team, it's incredibly impressive on this movie. It's
the most impressive of any movie I've worked on in
terms of the practical effects and just the things that
they build and like the bones, you know, and the
individual hair follicles and all the things.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
That's very detail oriented.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
And uh, my fitting was at Jason Naomi's house, which
their kind of front room living area was kind of
a workshop of all these ghoulish things or kind of
like walking through a morgue. There was just like bodies
everywhere and limbs and things with bones sticking out, and
there were just things that they were building and then
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their little troll dogs just like you know, like you're
running through all this stuff.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Is awesome, I.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Will tell you.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
They definitely took their time on doing these prosthetics. The
detail was immaculate. It was insane.
Speaker 8 (08:25):
Yeah, you couldn't be squeamish as an actress, you I mean,
just the blood alone.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
I mean, you know you definitely you couldn't be like you.
Speaker 8 (08:34):
Had to just you know, like power through it and
not you know, realize obviously you know you're you're on
set with these incredible effects, but definitely, like you know,
if you ate a big lunch like you, I don't know,
you like, oh God, like look at all that blood.
Speaker 11 (08:54):
I remember there was one point I was walking on
sat backstage and they was someone lying down as I
was approaching, and I was like, oh they okay, Like
why are they lying down? There was a couple of
people looking over them, and as I got closer, I
was like, it's supposed to okay, they're not like moving
all the rest, so they're just lying there and a
couple of.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
People attending there.
Speaker 11 (09:13):
And as I got closer, it was literally a prosthetic
of an entire body, but like the bottom half had
been ripped, and that people looking over it were just
inspecting it like they picture.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
It looked good.
Speaker 11 (09:25):
I honestly thought it was a real person approaching it
and they were just lying there and these folks were
talking to them.
Speaker 2 (09:30):
It looked that real.
Speaker 11 (09:32):
And then wasn't until I got right up close and
saw that they were missing the bottom half of their body.
It was like, whoa this is This is like one
of the first days I was there and I was like, Okay,
if this is what we're working with, this is phenomenal.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (09:48):
Yeah, I want to add to that that because I
was there for the body laying on the grass, and
I think I was walking with you, but I got
up really close to the body and you could see
the individual hairs that they've put on, the lashes and
the eyebrows, and the makeup and the skin coloring. Everything
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looked so natural, and everything looked so real, but like
natural I guess for a dead person because the body
was most but it looked so real. It was ridiculous
and kind of veering off of like the special effects stuff.
I do have a question for Chelsea, just because some
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of the stuff that I'd seen, like in the trailer,
looks like it would have taken like hours for you
to get ready to do. How long was like your
longest I guess makeup prep time, like real makeup. Yeah,
for like the special effects that they.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Did, I mean every day, it was like a couple hours.
Speaker 7 (10:51):
But it also wasn't non stop because our hair and
makeup team weren't.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Doing everyone, so like I don't really know what the longest.
Speaker 7 (11:00):
Consecutive would be because it would be like I got
my hair done and then the hair would have to switch,
and then I'd go through makeup, and then they'd be
like maybe some time in the outdoor.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
I had an outdoor tent for the things that I
had to.
Speaker 7 (11:13):
Do with my body, like bluing leeches on me and stuff,
so I would kind of like get a little makeup,
then I'd get a coffee, then I'd get a little
I mean, every day it was like a two hour
block of just all the things before I would come
to said, I was just there like two hours early
every day.
Speaker 10 (11:30):
Wow, that's crazy, yeah, because they actually when we were
doing the shoot for some of Chelsea's scenes, they had
a completely separate makeup and wardrobe tent for her because
there was a lot of special effect stuff they were
doing that we were not privy to, so some of
it we didn't even like see how it was done
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because that was kind of secret to their trade.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
So that stuff was.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Actually kind of fast.
Speaker 7 (11:56):
Oddly, the effects stuff like was pretty fast, Like we're
it took a while to get into every day beauty
makeup takes a long time, you know, it just does
and like hair, but the effects stuff for me was
actually pretty fast because it was just like five or
six people tag teaming me and sticking things on me
and like like that part actually.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Was usually the last thing we did, and it was
just like a lot. That was the biggest thing.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Is like a lot of people touch me and around
me all the time, like five or six people. So
if you're like a claustrophobic person or don't like people
touching you around you all the time, I think that
would be hard. But I was fine, you know, but
I think I thought about that a lot. I'm like,
if you're someone that really doesn't like people like around
your touching, this in the hard because there was always
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like people sticking things on.
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Me and taking things off me.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Did you have to be cast at all or did
any of you have to actually get a cast to
your face or your body? I'd had a body cast
that I feel like that's when the claustophobia hits a
peek because you're just stuck there.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, I didn't do a face that was okay, do
a face cast.
Speaker 7 (13:00):
I've never done like what's called a life cast where
it's like your whole face is covered, and then I
think sometimes they even have to put straws in your
nose and stuff, and to be honest, I don't think
I could. I actually was panicking kind of the night
before and this is like before I met Jason. Naomi
was texting them to make sure it wasn't one of
those because I was like, I don't know if I
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can do that, and I'm sure as shit cannot do
that sober. So I was like, I need to know
what's going on because I would need prescription medication to
get through that, that's like.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
And they were like, no, no, no, like it's just
your body. And I was like, okay, I'm good.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I've had that done.
Speaker 9 (13:40):
And yes, you're right about the straw But the thing
that's also we don't talk about as that if you
have to shave and put tape on, so the beard
had to go.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
So my wife was not happy at all.
Speaker 9 (13:49):
So, yeah, but you're right about the cal You just
have to stay still and you're just you know, yeah,
you have to concentrate on your breathing.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Not a fun experience.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Yeah, I don't think it sounds fun. I had to
do half one once. That's the most I've ever done.
Speaker 7 (14:03):
So my mouth was still like totally open, like I
could mouth breathe it.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
I was speaking out Chelsea. You mentioned that this the
effects on the Death of snow Wide are like the
best that you've worked with, did you I think so?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, homo practical.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Did you get to like experience anything on Army of
the Dead or No.
Speaker 7 (14:24):
Army of the Dead was interesting because it was I'm
in a scene with just one other actor named Steve Corona,
and he actually dialect coach me on this movie.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
He's a really good coach. But so Steve and I
had a scene together. But we shot that scene.
Speaker 7 (14:38):
Over two weeks, so we were on set with the
other actors all the time, like you know, and we
would see them at launch and talk to them and stuff.
But we felt like we were making our own separate
movie of just like us falling in love and you know,
riding around in a cool car and just me having.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
A good time.
Speaker 7 (14:56):
But I did get to see there. What was really
impressed about that it was the set that they built
for Vegas. You know, I got to see that and
that was crazy. I mean it was like they built
like part of the strip and just had it all
like for cocked and leaning signs down, zombies everywhere, zombies
at lunch like that was very very cool. But I
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only got to see them shoot like two scenes in
between mine. I got to watch Dave Bautista and Ronald
Castillo do this cool fight scene and I got to
see some of their stunts and things.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Which was really neat. But I didn't get to see
a ton of their effects.
Speaker 7 (15:34):
And I would imagine that they had more digital type
effects than our movie. And I feel like a lot
of people will really like that Depth of Snow White
is so practical and doesn't I mean, we have some
digital effects too, but we're not relying on that. And
I am really excited for people that are like super
if you're like a nerd and you're really into practical effects,
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and I love that stuff, and I just think people
are gonna love.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
That about our movie.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah. I was only bring it up because I say,
you saying that definitely shows just the caliber of what
Depth of Snow Ice bringing the table right, because the
budget difference between those two films is pretty drastic.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
So I feel like our set design.
Speaker 7 (16:15):
I mean that like the budget for Army and the
Dead was like, I think close to seventy million dollars
and obviously they can build the Vegas and all that stuff,
which was so impressive. But I was really impressed on
our movie when I got there and saw the sets
that were built in the woods and stuff, because I
know that we're known.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Near We're nowhere near any kind of like big budget.
Speaker 7 (16:36):
You know, it's an independent film, and our sets are
designed so well and for what was spent on them,
they look incredible. Like, it's very impressive to me what
our team was able to pull off on this movie
for the budget.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
It's it's really really neat.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Yeah, it actually it blows my mind as someone who
has worked at the exact spot that that set is.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
And you know, for U.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Snaia being in your backyard like that, it's crazy, guys.
It's almost let me a picture from set. I'm like,
there's no way that's the backyard. There's no way that's
what we're looking at. So yeah, I think it's it's incredible.
I mean, it's an incredible transformation. Granted in her backyard
is gigantic. It is, yeah, it is, but they made
good use of it for sure. That I was seriously
blown away when I saw it, super beautiful. What was
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it like for you, Snaya having your whole house continue
to be transformed like once a month.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I let's just say I'm glad that I don't live
there all the time.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
It's kind of a lot.
Speaker 6 (17:34):
It's cool, but it's a lot like you just like
your construction and I'd rather get annoyed at a neighbor.
But it's like, oh, it's just dad building a castle
in the backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Oh right, right, right, yeah cool.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
What was it like for you guys, like walking onto
set for the first time, because it's got to feel
like walking into like Disney World.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
Have you ever been of the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
I haven't. I've seen pictures of it.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
No, it's it's straight up walking into the Renaissance Festival.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
Yes, it's like that.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
It's exactly like I got transported back in time. It's
so incredible. Yeah, you go into the Renaissance Festival and
then another path is the castle. So we made a lot.
Speaker 12 (18:14):
We made do with a lot that we had with
the area that we were given, and it looks seamless
and spot on like when you when we were looking
at it through playback, like we could obviously see the
ending of the set. We could obviously see like, oh,
Renaissance Festival and then there's a house. So but when
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you see it on playback, like you you are teleported
back into another worlds.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
It was amazing.
Speaker 9 (18:41):
I worked for the Renaissance fairs. I my character there
is well, it's on the ferry smasher. But I was
going to say that we actually did recruit and bring
in a lot of the Rennies. So some of the
tents you saw were provided by some of our pirate folks.
We also brought in like Seattle Knights for you know,
so you like so, yes, you do feel like you're
being pulled back because some of the talents, some of
the people that we brought in are very much medieval performers.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Which I think that's genius, by the way, Like what
a smart way to immediately upgrade your set without really
spending a ton of money. It's like, hey, come show
off what you guys do on a daily basis.
Speaker 12 (19:17):
Absolutely in flamethrower are they brought in flame throwers, an
aerial list, jugglers, the whole nine yards. We had We
had a we had an area where we couldn't be
close to flame flame throwers, otherwise we would have been
burned alive.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
It was really cool seeing the horses too, Like it
was just it was so amazing.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I just I loved it. Yeah, I imagine stunts in
general were probably pretty apparent on set. I mean, I mean,
how much did you guys have to go through?
Speaker 10 (19:52):
Sun Wise, we all basically kind of did our own stunts.
We didn't have any stunt doubles. So if there was
a stunt that we didn't know how to do, we
kind of learned how to do it during the filming.
So like I Jeremy actually, who was in this call,
he taught me how to do like a forward role
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for one of the stunts that I was supposed to do.
And we all kind of do a little bit of
fight choreography. That was really really fun. It was I
think that might have been my first brush with fight choreo.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
So yeah, it really.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Brush girl, you were you are hitting it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Thank you for aught.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It was violence.
Speaker 12 (20:39):
Yeah, had like their own specific really cool weapon. Colin,
you had some fight stuff.
Speaker 10 (20:48):
Right, Yeah, I had what was it? It was like
a giant pick axe. We Yeah, we all kind of
had like our own really really cool weapons. They were
all handmade. I was like this pick axe that was
bigger than me. I think my favorite weapon that I
saw had to be Collins weapon.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
It was the best one, the coolest.
Speaker 2 (21:16):
Act that my character made himself, and he showed it
and he designed it. But yeah, I mean, in my opinion,
the coolest kills.
Speaker 10 (21:25):
So he had some pretty bad kills.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
Yeah, yeah, I definitely was bad ass. But the weapons
themselves were really well designed and it was a lot
of fun. As Reese said, I've done some previous stunt
stuff before, so yeah, I was teaching her how to
do forwarder and all that sort of stuff, and there
was a moment where we were told to sort of
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like sort of practice come up with like our own
sort of like sort of routines and things that we
could do for some stunt corier stuff. And I remember
I sort of went off and was practicing a couple
of things. You know, I wait for everyone else, so
you know, safety first and all the rest of it.
And at one point I was doing something I'm not
going to say what of this is because it would spoiler,
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but I had the.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
First ad.
Speaker 11 (22:16):
China basically shout out my name at some point I
was like, but I looked over.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
She was like, that was amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Could you do that again?
Speaker 11 (22:24):
I was like, well, yeah, that's what I'm planning to
hopefully do. But the way she like yelled at me,
I thought I was getting told off for something. So
I was practicing it, but she was super impressed by
and I was like, yes, okay, that's obviously a green light,
so I'm happy with that. So we got to incorporate
our own little spin on our little like fight scenes,
which was really really fun. I love that we got
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to sort of bring our own sort of personal touch
to our own obviously the weapons and approach to fight
scenes as well.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yeah, the same team was like super collaborative.
Speaker 11 (22:57):
They let us come up with our own stuff, add
whateverybody like change some stuff.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
But yeah, it stunts for very fun.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
That's something that I love about this movie is that
all the characters are very vibrant and they have their
own like every every single character is unique and different
and has their own flare, you know, And that's hard
to accomplish in a movie with so with such a
big cast, right, Like a lot of indie horror movies
you have like one or two main characters and then
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everyone else is just like, you know, fodder for the kills.
But this, like looking at this panel, there's like ten
ten all main characters, and they're all so unique and
they all have their own flare so that when they're
on screen, you're you're compelled by all of them individually.
And that's really hard to accomplish on you know, you know,
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a micro budget thing. And I think that's a testament
to each of these actors bringing a bit of their
own you know, energy and fun and ideas to that character.
At least that's how it comes across, you know. I'm
working on the Locked picture, so at least that's how
it comes across. I don't know what it was like
on set, but working on the on the final film,
it really feels that way.
Speaker 12 (24:10):
Yeah, I'll say a lot of a lot of us
when we were in the fight choreography, we all just
wanted it to look cool. We wanted to not only
be seamless and make it look real, but also look
cool and make sure that everyone is having a fun time.
Like working with the fight choreography, like they would have
one suggestion and then I would like, would.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
It be cooler if I did this, and like, oh yeah,
yeah yeah.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
So me having gymnastics background, I was able to do
a little bit more things that they think that they
thought I couldn't do.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
So we were just all having a great time and
just trying to make it look cool.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I think you guys succeeded just from the little bit
that I've seen. I mean, the end of the trailer
had me pretty hyped up.
Speaker 7 (24:50):
I was.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I was enjoying the end of the trailer. And one
of the things actually that adds to that is I
think actually hiring actors with dwarfism, it makes such a
massive difference, and it is like it's a very notable
thing right now because somebody decided not to do that recently,
somebody decided that CGI was the better route to go
for that. So you can, you guys talkbout that a
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little bit, just like what that changes with the dynamic,
even the the if you want to exaggerate or talk
more about stunts as well. Just there's so much more
fun to.
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Have with that.
Speaker 10 (25:22):
I think, Yeah, I think honestly, I think it's so
refreshing to actually have little people come in as actors
for the Seven Dwarves, just because I feel like we're
so highly caricatured in media already that it's nice to
kind of have us portray people with dwarfs and real
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dwarfs who are real flesh and body, where humanistic characters
were not being put in there as a novelty where
they walk that fine line between i mean caricature and
stereotype and realism. And I think they did a really
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really good job with doing that respectfully, and that was
really cool. You know, like they painted us in a
really good light, they painted us in a badass light,
so it kind of feels like we are taking our
power back in that sense. That's something that I really
appreciated from them.
Speaker 8 (26:28):
Yeah, I love how we were represented in this film
and I and I love how our characters were just
so powerful. And I feel like that's what you know,
when you know, you see little people on you know,
film and TV, it's like we're just you know, we're
we're lacking that that power that like we are, you know, amazing.
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And so I really love how Jason and Naomi, you know,
just showed how our characters were and show that we were,
you know, just as just as as you know, amazing
as the Knightsman and all of that.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
So it was it was great.
Speaker 8 (27:09):
It was so refreshing to be in a film like this.
Speaker 11 (27:12):
Yeah, it just goes to show that like all of
us as well, it's been little people with dwarfism, we
also have different types of dwarfism. We're not all limited
to the same types. So there are differences between all
of us that you know is different to our body type,
body structure and all the rest of it. So back
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to like the stunt stuff for example, and as like
Tristan was saying, giving us that flexibility of trying things
out and letting it like them, letting us show them
what we're capable of able to do, as opposed to
people just assuming and putting us in a type slot
or being like, oh no, you you probably can't do that,
or you probably can't do this. But it's like they
were literally I've been the floor been like, hey, if
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you've got ideas, if you've got extra skills that you
want to incorporate or anything like that, now's the time
to do it. So it was nice to be able
to be ourselves show the skills that we've learned through life.
Depending on whatever background we've all obviously followed and be
able to portray that as ourselves on screen in.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
A really badass cool way.
Speaker 11 (28:15):
So it was nicely Jason and Iaomi actually allowed us
to portray ourselves and portray the character that we wanted
to in a way that respected it and stayed true
to us.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah. Uh, that's exactly what came to my mind earlier
when Colin brought it up that they were everyone was flexible,
like being having a stun team and a choreography team
that's flexible. That makes all the difference in the world
because people have so many hidden talents you just don't know.
You just don't know until they're put in front of you,
even no idea what people are capable of. So I'm
glad that they were not locked into a certain move
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set or anything and allowed you guys to shine.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
They are do work for badass.
Speaker 9 (28:52):
You know, they were twenty little fighters.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
They were ripping it up.
Speaker 10 (28:57):
Yeah, I think it was really really cool all that
we weren't kind of depicted as like, you know, a
one dimensional stereotypical like seven dwarves, and I mean, look
at tiny, look at Eric's character. That's definitely like very
very different from the seven Dwarfs that you know are
depicted in the Grim's fairy Tale book. And everyone was
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kind of able to put their own spin on these characters.
And it's really cool to have to see them with
you know, full personalities, like a full life.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Everyone had their own personality.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Well, And actually I was curious because you were talking
about that as well earlier, Andrew, is that how everyone
is kind of their own main character? And for you,
when you're composing music for that is is that kind
of opened some doors for you to kind of I
don't write specific themes for characters or I don't know
how what is it like even just scoring for a
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Runnissan style film? What is that like for you?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, that's a great question, Thank you. It's it is
a lot of fun. This movie is unique to other
pictures that I've scored because there are so many characters,
Like you know, I've worked on the Winnie the Pooh,
Blood and Honey series, and who has a theme, and
Christopher Robin has a theme, and you know Tigger in
the in the sequel and Number two, Tigger has a theme,
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and Awl has light motifs. And I really enjoy that
type of film scoring.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
So it is.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
It has been really rewarding to work on a movie
like this where kind of like I won't say that
the musically it's like Lord of the Rings, but in
the way that Lord of the Rings has so many
characters and so many opportunities for light motifs and themes,
like Star Wars is the same way. I'm really having
fun just kind of like putting a little flair for
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each character as I go. Uh, snow White has a
lullaby theme that that is that plays. The Prince has
his own little fanfare, which is really cool. Snow White
and the Prince, the two like together. Their relationship has
a theme that I think I've posted that one already. Obviously,
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the Evil Queen has a theme, and all the Dwarves
have these little you know, whether it's like a little
bit of an instrument for this character or something that
that when this character does something, that little instrument plays.
You know. It's been really fun to do that, and
having those themes and motifs and little nods weave together
in certain scenes is really cool. And of course the Dwarves,
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you know, the character of the Dwarves, they they have
this this song that they sing with snow White that
has a lot of you know, I could say that,
but it has. It has a lot of significance to
the story, and that has become a main theme that
you hear throughout the picture, not only when they sing
it in that scene, but in the in the music,
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in the actual score. It's the first thing you hear
when the when the starts at the very opening of
the movie, is that main theme. So I'm really bringing
these characters to the forefront of musically, to the forefront
of the score.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
I'm I love what you did with Button, Honey, and
that's such an oddball a couple movies there that to
be able to ground a score so great with then,
And I was, I think it's really cool and it
shows how talented you are. So I'm really excited to
see we do it this.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Thank you, thank you. Yeah, it's I was working on.
When I was working on Poutu, the trailer came out,
posters started going up around Los Angeles, and I was
still scoring the movie like it, working in posts and
especially like film composing, which is like one of the
last parts of posts film, the soundtrack, sound design, color
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correction like those are like the last big three that
have and then of course the dub the mix, so
scoring them. You know, there's I I grew up listening
to and reading interview of film composers. That's what I
wanted to do all most of my life. And so
there are tons and tons of horror stories of like
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people studios putting up like billboards next to the composer's
recording studio like coming soon, and it's like no pressure.
You know, they're still writing the music. Is the billboard
is steering them through the window, you know.
Speaker 13 (33:26):
So yeah, there is a lot of pressure, but you know,
you just you kind of just get buckled down and
get used to knowing that, like, okay, it's got to
be March fifth, and that's when I got to you know,
the train is going to the station and I can't
you know, I can't deliver late kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
You just get used to that being your reality as
this part of the film industry. So you have a clip, right, Riley,
you have a clip.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Yeah, I've got to figure out how to share something
in here and zoom.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Ye.
Speaker 10 (34:37):
Incredible job.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
That was all. Thank you. I'm I'm excited for you
all to see the finished product. And then the soundtrack
will come out the same day the movie head theaters
and stuff like that. So when I first met with
Jason on our first Zoom call and he was looking
at me and a couple of other composers, I said
to him, I'm not gonna lie. I don't normally do this,
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but I want to tell you my pitch, like straight up,
because I because this is what I want to do,
and you know, I want to know if you're not
on board with that. I don't normally do that, you know.
I don't normally say right off the bat, like I
watched your movie and this is what I'm excited about,
you know. And I told him I want to write
a score that is brave heart horror.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Yes, that's where we're going, definitely, dude, Like you guys said,
like the ren Fair is there, and there's like kind
of a mix of all these like you know, obviously
Snow White is a Germanic tale, you know.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I was like, Jason, do we want to go only
like do we want to go true to German? Germanic?
But you have you have different swords and weapons from
all over Europe and accents from different parts of the UK,
and he was like, let's just musically mash all of
that together. So you have bagpipes, you have Irish flutes,
you know, Scottish drums, you have you know, Germanic folk
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instruments and dulcimer's, and it's just kind of like a
stew of, you know, because it doesn't take place in
any specific place. It takes place in this you know
fairy tale, you know land that's not specifying. So we
just kind of made like a potle like stew of
a bunch of different ingredients musically that I think is
really fun to play with.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
So I'm so excited. That was so epic.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
It made me really want to see what the visuals
are that go with it.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, you know, big studio pictures are fun because they
have a lot of money and they can afford big
practical effects. But indie films have heart that can't be
replicated because in order to make an independent film, people
have to come together and like wear different hats and
you know, build different roles and do choreography yourself and
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in order you know, everyone's more invested than just their
role on an independent picture because you know, it takes
a family to make one of these Uh, these lower
budget pictures. And that's what I'm excited for people to
see is the family like on display that I'm just
now getting to know, but that I can tell working
(37:21):
on the picture. I can tell that there was a big,
happy family on set making it all together. So that's
what I'm excited for people to see.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
That was a perfect ending. That was the perfect last speech.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Right there, to hide your rise from the movie screens,
to loajeries.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
From the horror screens.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Hall of favor villains. Watch them take about this. Lesher
has no doubt they'll go all about to make every
death cult
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