May 24, 2025 • 49 mins
In this episode of Make Every Death Count, Riley and Nic review the latest film in the Final Destination franchise - FINAL DESTINATION BLOODLINES!
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Speaker 2 (00:39):
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We're gonna get tropical. Welcome back to another episode of
Make Every Death Count, brought to you by the slash
Gast Podcast Network. We're your host. My name is Riley,
my name is Nick. Today is technically the season premiere
of season five. Technically cool because our seasons don't mean
anything true. But technically this is season five, which means
(01:00):
this is the start of our every other week programming. Sorry,
that's just what we have time for every other week.
Probably mostly new releases, but not always yeah, not always
movie reviews either. Yeah, it's just whatever the hell we
want to do.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's sprinkle an extra episode in here and there if
there's something that piques our interests.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, get your bonus episodes out. I didn't want
to say, because I keep forgetting to mention this. At
the top of the episode. There is a make Every
Death Count website Make everydeathcount dot com. On that website one,
it's just a nice little location. You can find all
the episodes, like minded people in the reviews and stuff.
(01:40):
But also there's an option there where you can leave
a voice message. And if we get some cool voice messages,
I'll happily to play them on the show, react to them,
respond to him.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If you have questions, thoughts, concerns, whatever, you can go
leave a voice message on the website and leave a review. Yeah,
or you're listening especially Apple, Yeah, five star reviews specifically
help out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But hey, before we dive in to Foundation Bloodlines, I
figured we should talk about what we've watched since then,
because it's been a minute, so we should have plenty
of talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. No, yeah, you don't got plenty yeah yeah the
Maple Yeah yeah, uh so I guess our last episode
was until Dawn. Yeah, so since then, I watched Drop.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Nice here. I also watched Drop.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's pretty good. Christopher landon Gotta Love it. I didn't
put until on here until trash I am. I gave
it four stars. I give it like I'll give it
three and a half. It's probably more like a three
and a half. I liked it though I watched the
mini series Evil Genius. The full story is Evil Genius,
(02:56):
the true story of America's most diabolical bank heist.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh you ever heard of the the.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
The pizza delivery Bomber. Yes, yes, it's a it's a
docu series crime series about that. Okay, yeah, it's okay.
It popped up played next after that, so I watched
it because why the hell not Sisters starring Tina Fey
(03:24):
and Amy Poehler. It's twenty fifteen comedy, mom comedy, mom comedy. Okay,
it's about how old people are not young anymore but
they want to be young.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was pretty pretty dog too. Yeah it sounds pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it was longest yard nice to go one ways.
And then I watched Final Destination, Final Destination two, Final
Destination three, four or five, and Bloodlines. I've also been
watching Futurama and I really want to watch King of
the Hill because the new new season new series comes
(04:01):
out pretty soon, but uh, huge, some stuff in the background,
but nothing that I really remember. Anyway, I watched well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I also watched all the fun final Destination films. Got
a nice rewatch in there. I watched The American Sniper immediately. Dude,
I'm telling you, if you want to, if you think
you're like man, I hate America, just go watch America
Sniper and you're all a sudden you're back in. I
actually ended up buying Chris Kyle's book too, because I
haven't read the book, so I bought the book to
read it myself. Read the True Story because a lot
(04:32):
of the movie is kind of a little more all
day weekend. Yeah, see, it's a perfect time. Let's sit
down on Monday. I'm devoted a whole day to Chris Kyle.
I'm gonna read the whole book. I watched Nose Faratu
as well. Okay for the second time. Stay Alive, the
two thousand and six banger, incredible film. They should have
made a video game. I still think they should. It
(04:54):
looks like a great game. Frankie Munas the peak of
Franki Munez's career. I said it was if you're in
a movie night. When we watched Stay alive. I said,
I'm gonna have my people contact his people and do
an interview. That's just about stay alive. You're my people,
so get on it. I had my people contact his people.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
My people is Chas Yeah, okay, then Dead Silence, Nice Banger,
and Cry Wolf Cry Underscore Wolf, Nice Banger. It's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That movie actually sucks.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's really bad, but I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's a fun watch. I think the twist actually
still holds up.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah. I think the reveal is like, oh cool. I
think I watched that for the first time at the
beginning of the year. It was here. It was here. Yeah,
end of last year. Must have been, because I don't
see it on my list. It's a must have been
an end of last year. Time flies already halfway through
the year. Yes, we are almost halfway through the year.
(05:49):
It's almost my birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah. Yeah, that means I'm getting creeping up on twenty nine,
which means I'm creeping up on thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Brother, we're old. Our ten year high school reunion is
this year technically, even though who knows if that's going
to happen. I'm not going no matter what, so.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I said, if I lose another thirty pounds.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'll go. If I lose about one hundred and fifty
pounds and gain one point five million dollars in my
i'll go.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Also, I'll have a one month old at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So also they want to have it the weekend that
our town is having a festival.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Some people do anyway, and that's the one.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Weekend I never want to be even near the town.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So I don't want to go drink some ritas.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Not. I don't want to. I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You don't want to, you know, hit the town before
they shut it down, you know, but the ritas not
really carnivals this weekend you go into the carnival. No,
you're not going to bring your nephew to the carnival.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No, I'm actually they probably will have to go for
he's a cop, got a show that we love the town.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah right right, so yeah, he's yeah, they'll probably go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
What is it going to do there? Who knows?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Ever, since I don't nobody cares listening to this podcast,
But we had a it was a town festival that
used to be in collaboration with their city hall in
our fire department. Well, some beef happened. It was like
on the property of the fire department. Well some beef
happened between the town and fire department. Where now the
fire department puts on their own little carnival to raise money,
(07:26):
and then the festival is now separate, but it can't
be on the fire department property anymore, which was like
that's where the carnival side of the festival was.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, big open field.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, it was way better. Now it has to so
they take up It was every time this festival happens,
it takes up a bunch of the city streets, you know,
and it's it's a whole thing. But now it's even
worse because they shut down the main block, the main
route to the highway.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they literally were like, hey,
fire department were actually the proceeds that we make from
the festival were not paying you anymore. Like it's to
support the town, not the fire department, and the fire
department for some reason, the police department is included, yeah,
but the fire department's not for some reason.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't know, I don't know what actually went down,
but that's the gist. So now there's two festivals one
Memorial Day one July is second weekend of July. Yeah,
something like that. Fun lot's fun, so much fun. Yeah,
the at least you could hear some good bands. Usually
(08:34):
usually I haven't heard of anyone being like, oh man,
this people's playing a bronfest. I haven't heard any of that,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The last one that I recall being big was Mo Pitney.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, we had Mo Pitney.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, who's after that? Didn't somebody like legitimately famous? Another
country singer that was like legitimately popular. Time it was
a sky Phillips.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Was four years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Whatever one they let me on the stage for. They
put me on the stage to film him. He was
a big deal. I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
We had Mo Pitney. Yeah, but most from around here, Yeah,
it doesn't count. We had Philip Phillips. I can't remember
who they put me on stage for to film, to
film him from behind. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Whatever in support knows, move On Holmes.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was just me.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
God, if it was Luke ho it was just me,
we could probably pull that off. Get the town drunk
enof where you get up on stage everyone thinks you're
actually Luke Combs.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Surprisingly I need to get a little fatter. Yeah, he
is trying to lose weight right now though. So for him,
I've seen some pictures of him and some like Jim
Him and Jim Schwartz, by the way, weird. It's just
because you're so seeing him in jeans a button up.
To see him in Jim clothes is weird. I'll be
prime Luke Combs, fat Luke Combs in his prime. That's
(09:52):
who I'll be. I'm also skinny Otis skinnier Otis from.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
W Yeah, you're also less jacked Otis because boy, that guy,
what do you mean he is very strong?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah he is? Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I'm moving on Found Station Blood Lines. Let's talk
about it. We've seen it. You've seen it twice. I
saw it twice. Must be nice.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Can't relate.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We didn't. We're gonna put out a spoiler free review.
Didn't get a chance. Time is a viable thing. You know,
watch a fly by as the pundulum swings.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But we were going to but then, you know, we
were really pressed for time, and there was a line
in the movie that made us sit down and think,
you know, what, life is precious? They were oh yeah,
Tony Dodd. Yeah, when you said line in the movie,
I was it made me feel like a line of people.
What do you mean there was a line of people
in the movie, And I'm like, I'm way too busy
to talk about this right now.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
We had a buddy in town that when saw it
with us, and yeah, he took up our time that day.
So he did like that movie. Yeah, yeah, he he
was one that was oh great heaven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. But so in a nutshell, Bloodlines, what it is
you start off probably the best opening scene that we've
probably in the franchise. It's either one or two. I
think Foundation two is probably still the best.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I do love that log truck and the accident. I
think I'm voting for this one though. For Bloodlines.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it's it's close. I think the Bloodline is just
more interesting because they're pushing it's so unique. You know,
you're in the nineteen sixties and is the fifties or sixties? Sixties?
Uh fifty eight? What did they say? They say the year?
I can't remember what it is though. It's been like
two weeks since I've seen it. It's been one night
since you've seen it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, I don't remember the text on the screen.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, whatever, it's like sixty years ago. Yeah, uh yeah.
And so we start in the past and we're following
this woman her her boyfriend as they go to the
space Needle and a g and opening in the space
Needle and yeah, it's you know, it's just like any
Foundination film. Shit goes wrong in this movie in terms
(12:09):
like the events that create the disasters. It's even more
exaggerated than ever before, for sure. Like the villain of
this movie is the penny.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah. By the way, you know, the impact of Final
Destination Bloodlines is crazy. The penny is what started the
whole franchise and the events of the whole franchise. And
as of yesterday, as we're recording this, they're no longer
making the penny. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
How interesting is that?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Huh The impact that Final Destination has, it's crazy. They've
been they've been talking about stop making the penny for
thirty years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They finally did it because it doesn't cost like three
cents per penny.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it's like three to five cents to make one penny, Yeah,
depending on the price of copper at the time. And
they're like, oh, businesses will round their prices up or down.
Businesses are going to round their prices down. No, they're
gonna round them up.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh yeah, right, like in sporting, I just typed in,
I was looking up I was gonna look up Funcinnation,
bloodlines characters on Google, and I just typed him Foundation,
blood Lines, Copper Copper.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is. It is in there. That's a real copper
Penny right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, but yeah, her name is Iris. That's was I
was something on her name. Iris.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Don't want the world to see me because I don't
think that they'd understand.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, but of course she ends up preventing She has
a vision, ends up preventing the Shine disaster. Unlike most
of the fascination films, it's like twelve to twenty peopleish
lives are saved. Give her a take.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, plane crash was what well, live saved? It's oh
live save, yeah, live sick. She saved.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
She saved like hundreds of lives, hundreds yeah, yeah, because
they were all, you know, the glasses breaking, they all
fall through and it was yeah, off they kill a
child that they sure do twice well because Tony Todd's like,
you know, he dies, his character dies, but the kid
where the piano falls on him, the kid that throw
(14:09):
a penny originally Yeah, you know, yeah, he gets squashed.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean technically that that was in a premonition. Yeah,
so it didn't actually happen, so it's fine, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So because of that, saving hundreds of people like that,
they went on to have families, kids, grandkids, great grandkids.
You have this massive family tree of people who have
been born after the space needle who shouldn't be alive
because they were meant to die that day. Right, So
(14:45):
everybody that has been born since then as part of
that family tree. If anyone involved in a space needle
what would have been the space need disaster, that's coming
back for him. That's got to get him. And the
whole movie, we're following Iris's family and their attempts to
(15:07):
escape death. It's a good time. Now. She's really not
much more to it than that, just like conlization is
in general, there's just avoid death.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, our people die. Our main character, what's her name, Stephanie, Stephanie.
She is having the premonitions, the same exact premonition as
her grandmother Iris.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, she's having it via nightmares.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah. Fun. During finals Week two, couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, it's tough, and she she's like a straight A
student in high school, top of the class, and yeah
she's flunking out. Yeah, right now, she's flunking out because
the nightmares just won't let her sleep. But they find
out that her grandmother is still alive. And this is
where there are things about this movie that I love.
(15:55):
I think it's peak zach Klopovski. That's easy to say. Yeah,
Zaklopopsky hasn't exactly had a lot of bang or films
up to this point. The last franchise movie he directed
was Leprechawn Origins, which we reviewed relatively recently in Marsh
That movie's really, really bad. It's up there with one
(16:16):
of the worst movies I've seen. Yeah, And the thing
about Zaklopovsky and his approach to Leprekank Origins is that
his big thing was he wants to do something different.
You know, he didn't doesn't want to do the same
old formulas, do something different. And if he'd have taken
that approach to Final Destination Bloodlines, we'd have been like,
fuck off, right, you know, it's we like these movies
(16:37):
for a reason. We like to see crazy over the
top deaths, get some good characters in there, let's have
a good time, and luckily he suck with that formula.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, that's that's exactly what it was. Final Destination has
always been just a fun time. Yeah, a lot of
over the top deaths, comedy, et cetera. Not so much
in the first one, but really not even the first three.
Three was getting there.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
There's I mean, there's some comedy in there, but I
think I think there are some comedic characters.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well in there. They lean into that a little bit
more well and I mean, well, I guess Stiffler Sean
Williams Scott in the original, he's the dopey, the dope. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think what Bloodlines does and kind of what four
if five not as much, but four and six do,
is that there's death or there's comedy within the death. Yes,
and I still have yet to make up my mind
how I feel about that. I don't mind the kills
in Bloodlines. There are some good ones. I think people
(17:43):
have really been talking about the MRI kill. Yeah, that's
that's really the one that stands out. I think, Oh, yeah,
it's the most practical. I don't know, I you've seen
them behind the scenes clips that in post of that,
but they showed how they twisted the body in half,
and it's just two people. One's the one person's the
f one person's the top, and they just kind of
suck them in and then they added the only one
(18:05):
that's practical. That's the thing about it. That's where the
more I think about bloodlines, I've had time since watching
it to really analyze it in my head, I just
think there is way too much CGI. I mean, it
is riddled with CGI deaths. And we everybody dogged on
(18:27):
found Station four for doing that, for really leaning into
the three D crap and doing CGI kills and bloodlines.
Although not three D so it's not literally in your face,
it is an insane amount of CGI. Yeah, like it
could have been shot in three D and have very
similar vibes to the faadestination.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, there were definitely some times that like you could
tell it was CGI, Like the truck driving by which
truck driving by the one in the trailer. Oh yeah
that went that moved so fast. Yeah that was CGI. Yeah,
probably just a three just hall ass in a truck, dude, Well,
(19:07):
it's all ass down that little neighborhood. Honestly, I was
multiple times. I'm like, oh, like, they're even the the
lawnmower killed. There was the last kill of the movie,
the big goodbye with the logs. That was the only
one where in the feeder, Yeah, took off the my
Rose couple of glasses. I was just like, all right,
(19:30):
that's a lot insanely cgi. I wasn't distracted even on
the second viewing. I wasn't distracted until that last one.
I was okay with what I was watching. Yeah, I
think you can buy into it still, but just looking
at it, it's just you compared to the first three
that are a lot more practical, Like you have one
(19:54):
of the best burn scenes I've ever seen is in
Foundation three, and that was done practically. Yeah, and there
is like if you look back at the log scene
and fouscination too, the log truck scene, a lot of
that's very practical. There's just a lot more practical things happening,
and that is not the case in Bloodlines and a
lot of stuff. I was thinking, like, why don't you
(20:14):
do that practically? Like you could have totally pulled some
practical elements in there. You know, it was practical technically
in the opening scene the oldest person ever set on fire,
so yeah, yeah, so that was it was a long
time too, she was burning for a while. Yeah yeah, so,
I mean, of course those flames were enhanced.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It has its moments like the ring finger, like that
was practical and it was disgusting, and that stands out yep,
because it's not cartoony crap exactly. There are certainly some
cartoony moments in Bloodlines.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, it did not take me out in my opinion,
it didn't take me out.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah. That was one of my biggest criticisms. But it
wasn't like, God, this movie sucks because of this, right.
It is so over the top. It's like, okay, the
only the only other thing that really well. I have
two things. I don't like the look of these last
three films nearly as much as the first three films,
and I think that is because they lean more into
comedy now. But they're just so bright and colorful, and
(21:19):
these like livid color is very vibrant. The original three
are not like that at all. They're very dark and moody.
Fat the other moody films. I prefer that approach. I
just think it's way more serious. And yeah, it's not
there in the it's not found The's bloodline specifically, it's
just it's literally the last three films in general, they
(21:40):
kind of just get more of a spoofy vibe.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't know. I mean that that comes with the time, though.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Digital filmmaking, well we got we got five movies in
fourteen years, yes, and then it took another how many years?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
When did five come out? I saw five eleven eleven,
I guess so, I guess I would have been in
high school.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So it took another fourteen years to get one more. Yeah,
it comes with the times. I guess. You can't really
have a blue movie.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You can, It's not like get to make it blue.
It's just, man, it's a lot. It's super viral. You
can make something look very cinematic without doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like it would have been interesting seeing the contrast,
because we do jump a little bit back and forth
between the fifties and sixties, the flashback and present day.
Of course, you want the pre accident to be bright
and colorful, yeah, and then you can tone it down
and get a little moody. But yeah, it's twenty twenty five.
(22:50):
Gotta have a colorful movie, I guess for the ADHD
heads out there.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
The only other thing I really didn't like was so
there's old Ira of present day. She has been dodging
death for years, completely isolated from her family, now does
anything to escape death, and has locked herself in her
little cabin in the middle of nowhere and has built
literally a clash of Clash of Clan's fortress around her house.
(23:19):
It is giant wood spike She's got spikes on her
fucking gutters. She's just everything like as if she was
stopping tanks, as if she was preparing for tanks to
enter her property. She's got a giant metal gate. Nobody
can come in that kind of thing. And I just
find that extremely stupid.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's uh, it's it's Lori Strode in Halloween.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, it's a very exaggerated version of it. But yeah,
Lori Strode's whole fortress trap thing. Yeah, it would have
been great for Lori Strow this setup. It would have
worked very well.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, Michael would have just been standing out there. Yeah.
I just it doesn't make sense to me if your
goal is to escape the elements of death. Yeah, did
to have be around safety where's as hard as possible
for death to kill you. Then why the fuck would
you add a million weapons around your property? Like what
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is she trying to stop? Yeah, she's like, Okay, I'm
gonna put a spiky weather vein on the top of
my fortress, and then premonition, it's the spiky weather vein
that kills me.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, it's not even a premonition. She just knows.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, she writing it all down. I guess it's trust
no one Like in Final Destination too, clear was in
the psych ward in the padded room. Yeah, but I
guess she still don't even trust them with her food.
I guess. I guess, Yeah, you're growing it yourself, so
you know what's in it. I guess Yeah. Clear makes
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a lot more sense to me. And fundcination too, like that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That approach. If you were going to try to gave
death where there's nothing it could do to stop you
or to kill you to use against you, you go
into a padded room. You don't build a clash of
clan's fortress if you can. Really, That's the another thing
I didn't get because her and her granddaughter, as Stephanie,
had the ability to see it before it was coming.
Not premonitions, but like literally like this could play out.
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I could see this is how it's going to play out,
and I can avoid that. And they were doing that consistently,
like you watch Iris do that in the house when
the flower planet is like burning, the ropes burning and
she immediately catches it and like, I see you, Dick,
you know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Maybe she built the fortress first and then saw the
I don't know, because yeah, maybe maybe death wasn't coming
for her yet. Yeah, so it's not like she's building
this fence and then you know.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So that's just kind of where I'm talking about though,
where we're so we're leaning into spoof man, like there's
no way you rode out and designed that fortress and
then be like, yeah, this is fucking dumb. This is
so illogical. And then I did like the way that
she's like, yeah, okay, I'll let death get me now,
Like seeing his believing I like that a lot. I
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think that's the way to do it. You were dying anyway.
By the way, can death use is them having cancer
because she has cancer Old Iris and then Tony Todd
and William Bludsworth he has cancer, does that death doing that.
Is that what we're saying, Yeah, death is just like,
all right, you in I'm just gonna kill you slowly. Now,
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if death can do that, why not just give everyone
a brain hemorrhage. Yeah, like everybody that that was part
of those family trees. Because they're saying the reason took
so long to get to Iris and her family is
because it just took death a long time to work
through all those hundreds.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Of people and their families. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But in theory, you can just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Stroke brain hemorrhage. Yeah, lot, God, you can knock out
one hundred a day. They could have. Yeah, as they're
exiting the the space needle structure back in back in
the day, just all of a sudden, oh shit, gas leak.
Everyone said.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, and that's another thing because they do talk about
how everybody that was in the space you know, slowly
started dying over the years, YadA, YadA, But you gave
them so much time to have families and kids and
kids and kids and kids and kids.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Get Yeah, death only works six days a week or
something or four, you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Know, going take one person a day?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is that the rule?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's kind of how it plays out in these movies.
It's only one or two a day.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, if you're at some point that, yeah,
death is like, okay, I'm going to give you cancer
because you're doing so well at evating me. Yeah, just
just give them a brain hemorrhage. That's all you need
to do. Come on, death, come on.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah. Really, there should be no way to avoid this scenario.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Now we could make get in scary movie they avoid
death and oh my god, we avoided death, and then
be like, oh not really, you know five four, three,
two and they all just have fucking brain hammer doesn't
fall over, be like that's how death works.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm waiting for one of these movies to have somebody
that escapes death, be like a straight up serial killer,
because one of the ways you can save your life
after cheating death is if you kill somebody, you take
their life and whatever time they had left you take.
I'm surprised they haven't done that where somebody is willing
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to do that and is going to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, because we had Yeah that's so interesting because ooh okay,
now we have someone living forever, go in the hospital,
kill a baby all their time they had left. Now
you get now you live forever. Why do you live
forever because you're avoiding death? You keep killing babies? Come
back later? Does it work?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Doesn't the only work if you've cheated death before. Yeah,
you don't, just because that would means every.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Just keep cheating it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
How do you cheat death again?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Uh? You have premonitions? Yeah, yeah, that would be That
would be crazy, just having someone just sitting there being like,
I have to be a serial coat, I have to
kill people because death keeps coming for me. Yeah, even
though that's kind of not how it works, because it's
just like, Okay, then we're done. You get this person's time,
and yeah we're done. Yeah right, unless you just cheat
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it again and cheat it again, I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
As wary as that just hasn't happened yet. And the
other way, apparently every time, the whole it's skipping you
is how you survive that. Every movie they they go
with that, it's like okay, it skips me, I'm good now,
and every time death comes back and kicks your ass
and it just happens again. Yeah, literally the exact same
ending for the last six movies. That's how it goes, like,
(29:55):
oh we're good now, Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We're not good dang it, dang it. Yeah, every time.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think it's yeah, except for two but yeah, the
whole If I die and I get brought back, sure,
but your heart has to stop, right, which is how
this movie ends, where Stephanie thought that she had died
because she drowned, and her brother Charlie, who is a
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t o Briona's as I say his name from Chucky,
he's junior and Chucky but yeah, brings her back like
all right, we did it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I brought you back from the dead. And the one
girlfriend's dad it's just like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Also thought that if you're brought back from the dead
like that, I thought it only save you. So wouldn't
Charlie still be fucked anyway?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Just stops the line in this one. I guess the
rules are they change in like tiny little ways every
movie and I just don't know. Yeah, but yeah, turns
out her heart never stopped, so they were still gonna die.
And then they have this weird train crash logs crush
(31:11):
them cgi disaster that Yeah, that was the one. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
so just you're just throwing everything at us at this point.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, what was the point of the car because there
was a callback to the I thought I was like
throwing off completely. I'm like, oh, did the pass change
as well? And they had the car driving over the tracks?
You know, Yeah, I have no idea. Just a sign, yeah,
I guess, just a sign that was happening. Again, Speaking
of which, do you know Stephanie's car's license plate number?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No fl it one eight zero flight one ah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Flight one A. Yeah, there was something else one ad
in there too. I think I actually did notice how
license plate. I think I was like, oh, that's cute.
I said that to Brendan, who probably didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh yeah, whoa, Okay, I mean we do gotta talk
about Tony Todd. Well, yeah, Tony Todd having a much
more thorough scene finally get his actual character name and backstory,
some backstory. Yeah, this whole time, death has been after
him and he knew it. Yeah that that was such
(32:22):
a great, great full circle moment. Yeah, because this is
his last film role. Even Yeah, there were I'm glad
that this was truly the last one. I don't think
there's any other random projects out there that haven't released.
It could have been a shitty candy man, you know,
for his last one could have been, they could have
got another one out. Yeah, No, I believe this is
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his last. I think there's one movie that he's still
in that was filmed in twenty fourteen that is just
in hell, just in production hell. But it's still coming out.
It's still coming out, but so we might see that
in ten more years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
There were several movies that he filmed before he died
that started rolling out after his death. And I'm glad
that this was the one where it seems like it's
gonna be like the actual last one, because it's the
perfect goodbye. He was clearly already sick, they knew he
was dying.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, and he They told him to improvise the last
couple of lines that he said. They said, just talk
to talk to the fans, say what you want to say,
and he did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's funny because I even said that after what we
went to eat afterwards. I was like, man, it felt
like he was talking to me. It's like it clearly, Yeah,
he was saying goodbye and the best way he could.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah. I don't. I don't cry movies. Okay, all right,
tough guy, I'm a man. I did I did get
a little I almost teared up. They were they were welling.
It was tough because because yeah, clearly he was. He
wasn't talking to the camera, he was talking to us, yeah, said, yeah,
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it was just sad seeing him like that. Honestly, he's
always been like a bigger beef for your guy. Not bad,
but face and neck. He's always been full. Yeah, and
just was skin and bones. Yeah, it was. It was tough.
It was tough to see him like that. Yeah, but
it was a very cool goodbye. Not a lot of
actors get that opportunity. Yeah, and being a constant throughout
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the franchise and getting your full circle. All right, here's
my big here's my origin, and here's my goodbye. Not dead,
he's gonna it's gonna live his life the rest of
his life.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know, I didn't think of Tony falls was on Twitter.
Now that's always going to be there.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, m I mean he rested bees. But yeah, that
was that's the best scene in the movie as a result.
But oh yeah, for sure, good goat. It does get
a little convoluted after that though, in the hospital, like okay,
now we're gonna have an allergic reaction. No, don't where
are they where are they? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Between Eric and Paul. And yeah, because Eric turns out
he is not the child of Howard, Yeah right, yeah Howard.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yes, uh yeah, he turns out his mom cheated and
yeah he's actually so he's not part of the bloodline
of the Space Needle.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So why did Death go after him?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well, that's what I was thinking, because it looks like
he can't die. Well, even why the tattoo shit happened? Yeah,
even that, that is, why is death just fucking with him?
You know, nothing to do with it?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Throw throw Stephanie off the trail, I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
But then yeah, so Death being an asshole and having
him killed in the MRI machine is just because Eric
decided he was going to try to interfere, yeah, revenge.
What if right in that moment, Paul would have done
something where like he was trying so hard to get
the the epinephrine, you know, if he was trying so
hard to get that, it ended up he like pushed
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Eric into the MRI machine and got him killed. And
then Paul takes over Eric's life. Where was that at?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Because Eric and Paul are great characters. Everybody's simping over
Eric online rightfully, so rightfully. So he just got picked
up and if you saw he got picked up by
Convention All Stars.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Really nice, very nice. He'll start hitting cons here soon, yeah,
he he definitely was a was a scenes dealer. Yeah,
And I think actually that's the part of blood Lines
I think is the best people saying that they're horrible characters.
I'm I don't get that. I think there's some of
the better characters in the franchise. It was especially after
the first trilogy. I think I think the characters and
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blood Lines are significantly better than four and five. So yeah,
Eric and Paul, I think are the standouts. So to
see them go kind of sucks together. But yeah, brothers
brothers going down to his brothers. Yeah, yeah, that the
MRI as soon as as soon as everyone saw the
(37:11):
the nipple piercings. Yeah we knew there was a dick
piercing We all knew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Did he do it himself?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know what's the most unbelievable scene in the entire movie.
All this crazy shit happens in Bloodlines, but the most
unbelievable scene is Eric in the tattoo shop and he
presses play on a song and starts doing his own
tattoo on his forearm, and before the song is over,
he has completely finished a forearm tattoo that says dad,
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that's completely filled in black.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, he's a piece of pro he's.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That. Yeah. No, it's impossible. That is impossible to do.
Maybe was it?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Was it blank when he's started? Yeah, because I was
gonna say maybe he already had it outline, he just
had to do the filling, which I'm pretty sure you
see his blank off I think you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so a little load of barnacles. He's just the goat man,
apparently best character in the entire franchise. Close to it,
(38:20):
can't be to, can't be Kevin and Wendy.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'll die in that hill a j clear or not
well not ag but yeah, all you're talked to Devin
Sawa like that?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Whoa uh. I know, we haven't really liked transition to
and that's Final Destination both lines. But you ever heard
of the movie Fortune Cookie No. Two thousand and fifteen.
It's a ripoff of Final Destination.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It look good.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, it's dog shit from what I hear, starring Ryan Merriman. Really,
he's in a ripoff of a movie and a franchise
that that he's in.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That he's in.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
So it's an incredible movie if Ryan Merriman is in it. True,
you should watch Backwoods sometime now. That is a rough movie.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Smoking of Backwoods. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Also, that is the real introduction of hands from the
Textang Samasker his car and it is Robert Muse so yeah,
it's literally him and it's straight up hands doesn't talk
to only gruns. Yeah, same actor ship it. Yeah, that
(39:37):
was the introduction of hands. I think you might have
a moment with a car in there too, which brings
the racing stuff in there. The movie sucks, so but
it does start Ryan Merriman and uh, Hillary Duff's sister
whose name I'm forgetting, what is her name? Brittany Brittany Duff.
That doesn't sound right, but the other Duff sister Duff.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
We were talking about, I'm a destination. Uh what are you?
What are you rating it?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, one more thing before we read it. Just to
the comedy in this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It is the most.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like punchline like punchline kills we've seen where it's like,
I don't even think of an example like, well, it's
not like the kind of thing like, well, it's not
like I'm gonna lose my head or something, and then
their head blows up like it's like that kind of punchlines.
There are several where they literally predict their desks and
(40:38):
then like, I guess the whole Stephanie predicting the soccer
ball thing was. I mean, that's funny when it happens,
but that's not as bad as punchline.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's funny because it happens. Then in the background, that's why. Well,
and she gets fucking humbled by a soccer ball. It
was pretty funny, flipped into a trash can, didn't Wasn't
that the kid that kicked that soccer ball as a
hell of a kick? Uh? The something happened and then
the leaf blower blue something knocks over the.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
The limb trimmer and that ends up hitting the leaf
blower and the leaves. The leaves set off the kids
and they kicked the soccer ball and it hits her
in the head. She falls into the trash can and
goes into the dump truck. Yeah, it's yeah, that one's
pretty funny. They're all pretty funny. The entire movie is
going for humor with those kills, in my opinion, absolutely works.
(41:30):
Yeah it doesn't. That's just kind of what it's become.
You were in twenty twenty five. Yeah, you gotta spoonfeed us.
But that's exactly why I prefer the first three. Moon Like,
I still rank the first three higher. I still think
three is by far the best I have.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I believe it's three one. I did have three to
one Bloodlines, two, five to four, But do you got
two so long? It's not low, it's it's just the
bottom the bottom. Oh no, No, there's a very big
difference between the best four and the bottom two.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I think I have it as three. Probably it's probably one, two, one,
one and two can flip for me. It just a
been yeah, and then probably blood Lines, although I think
five might be the overall, like better movie, but it's
hard to say. I don't know. Blood Lines just it
(42:27):
just I think it has more likable characters, it's an
easier film to rewatch, more rewatchable. And then four, you know,
is so far at the bottom, it's not even close. Yeah, yeah, no,
I really did enjoy blood Lines. I'm sure the ranking
will change. Sure, personal ranking there I need to watch
it again. You've watched it twice.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It comes out on VOD pretty soon. Well, okay, I
think in June. We all right, I guess I want
to get it now and then at a star rating.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I gave it a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I'm giving it a four for right now. It might
go down to three and a half.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, three and a half feels about right. I might
give it a five, give it a two and a half.
Two and a half is what I get four, and
I think I might be a little generous.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Still, Yeah, it's it's definitely if you had to put
it in a ranking of the horror that came out
this year, where is that Hard Eyes, Until Dawn, Drop Monkey?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I think I prefer all those, really, Yeah, I think so,
maybe not the Monk because there's very well, the thing is,
Monkey's just a little bit more practical. Well yeah, so
I give a little points for that. But the Monkey
and the Monkey is basically a foundation film for real.
Yeah so, but yeah, there's it's close to the Monkey.
But I think I'm not necessarily saying these are better movies.
(43:54):
But I think I'd prefer Until Dawn and Hard Eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And what was there? What else was there up wolf Man.
Wolfman is under it borderline, borderlines, sucked into the deep,
into the deep, sucked. I don't know. I mean there's
still like Sinners that you haven't seen Sinners that comes
out to yeah, like this upcoming week I have as
(44:21):
of right now. As of right now, I watched it twice.
I did bump it above until Dawn, so I have
Hard Eyes Final Destination until Dawn.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Uh, it's probably more watchable than until Down. I just
don't know it's a better movie.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I gotta watch until doawn again knowledge I'm reading the description.
Ranking is based on personal enjoyability, not star rating perfect
so but I mean that's gonna move. This whole list
is going to change a million times, especially when there's more.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hard Eyes is still dominating to me. This year is
for most enjoyable, I think, so big fan. I haven't
rewatched the Monkey, so I own it now, but I
haven't rewatched it. I gotta re that'st thing. You really
got to rewatch at least two more times before you
can really be like this is my ranking. This is
(45:11):
where it's I had a weird craving to watch wolf
Man again, and I have the four K, so I'm
gonna have to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
It's funny you say that. The other night we were
streaming and like someone in the chat said something about Wolfman.
I'm like, yeah, I don't want to watch it. Yeah,
I have this steel book, all right, I know what
we're doing. Perfect Wolf space Man, Wolf space Man, Cry
underscore Wolf, Wolf Space Man. A lot of weird wolf
(45:39):
titles out there. Cry underscore Wolf is pretty fucking dumb.
I don't know what they were thinking with that, because
you can't just call it cry wolf. You have to
call it cry underscore Wolf. That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's because it takes place on the internet.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's his Christian name.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Every time I watched that movie, though, I miss aim
a lot. Yeah, just the sounds hearing that, the sound
of aol instant messengers, like, oh, better times, simpler times.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
We had no responsibilities back then.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You used to change your status and stuff on there.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I'm fine, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Do you remember my Space and every time somebody started dating,
they would change their name to I heeart that person.
Oh yeah, fucking.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Change their songs and add like of the of the
top songs on your profile, like at least two of
them were a love song for them, and then everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I'm every time somebody would get a girlfriend, they would
change it. They would add the take a look at
my girlfriend. It'd always add that fucking song.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
What is that song?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Cupid Cubid something, isn't it? Cupid choke Hold?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Cupid Cupid's choke hold? Yeah, not Cuban, not Cuban. Yeah, cheesy,
only one I got.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, that was on everybody's MySpace profiles. I miss MySpace.
How's Tom doing? Probably fine. I'll be living on a
beach somewhere that he does photography that makes sense. He
posts guess where he posts all his pictures?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Facebook?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Instagram? Uh oh, how the turntables is my space? Because
my Space made to come back? Is it still?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It isn't like almost exclusively music? Isn't that the point
of it now? Is music?
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't even know what the fuck this is. Join
the millions of musicians and artists on myspacelia, so it's
it's just a music social media for musicians. I'm seeing
Whoopy Goldberg, Sabrina Carpenter, Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Drake, Oh, not a good look, Woody Harrelson Harrels Pazzi
from like twenty years ago. Uh ooh uh uh holy shit.
What is his name? He's got a cool name, Rice Alba. Yeah,
(48:03):
I think I'm gonna sign back up. It just keeps going.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Time to meet the comeback. How many those people are
active on MySpace? Zero?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
No? Shot, Right, it's probably you know what, it probably
would be a place I want to go. It's probably
all just Midwest emo bands on there. Probably that sounds
like the perfect social media for me. Probably I'm gonna
sign up. I'll have a status report. No I won't, No,
I'll forget. Okay, Well that's foundation Bloodlines. Did enjoy it.
(48:35):
I think it's even a better theatrical experience. I do
recommend seeing in theaters if you can. Yeah, there were
a couple there were a couple booms that really boomed. Yeah,
it's a good time. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, that's it. Okay, it's a wraple this episode of
Make Every Deathcount. You enjoyed, Like you said at the beginning,
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I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I forgot we're tossing up fear Street. Fear Street. Maybe
not in a cornfield, it's coming on V O D.
I think it's hard to talk about good movies. Maybe
Sinners is a is a contender. If there's a conversation
that we had, is it all the above? You might
get some bonus episodes sprinkled in. You are all of
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this is the start of our every other week programming. Sorry,
that's just what we have time for every other week.
Probably mostly new releases, but not always yeah, not always
movie reviews either. Yeah, it's just whatever the hell we
want to do.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's sprinkle an extra episode in here and there if
there's something that piques our interests.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yeah, yeah, get your bonus episodes out. I didn't want
to say, because I keep forgetting to mention this. At
the top of the episode. There is a make Every
Death Count website Make everydeathcount dot com. On that website one,
it's just a nice little location. You can find all
the episodes, like minded people in the reviews and stuff.
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But also there's an option there where you can leave
a voice message. And if we get some cool voice messages,
I'll happily to play them on the show, react to them,
respond to him.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
If you have questions, thoughts, concerns, whatever, you can go
leave a voice message on the website and leave a review. Yeah,
or you're listening especially Apple, Yeah, five star reviews specifically
help out.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
But hey, before we dive in to Foundation Bloodlines, I
figured we should talk about what we've watched since then,
because it's been a minute, so we should have plenty
of talk about.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah. No, yeah, you don't got plenty yeah yeah the
Maple Yeah yeah, uh so I guess our last episode
was until Dawn. Yeah, so since then, I watched Drop.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Nice here. I also watched Drop.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
It's pretty good. Christopher landon Gotta Love it. I didn't
put until on here until trash I am. I gave
it four stars. I give it like I'll give it
three and a half. It's probably more like a three
and a half. I liked it though I watched the
mini series Evil Genius. The full story is Evil Genius,
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the true story of America's most diabolical bank heist.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Oh you ever heard of the the.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
The pizza delivery Bomber. Yes, yes, it's a it's a
docu series crime series about that. Okay, yeah, it's okay.
It popped up played next after that, so I watched
it because why the hell not Sisters starring Tina Fey
(03:24):
and Amy Poehler. It's twenty fifteen comedy, mom comedy, mom comedy. Okay,
it's about how old people are not young anymore but
they want to be young.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was pretty pretty dog too. Yeah it sounds pretty bad.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah, it was longest yard nice to go one ways.
And then I watched Final Destination, Final Destination two, Final
Destination three, four or five, and Bloodlines. I've also been
watching Futurama and I really want to watch King of
the Hill because the new new season new series comes
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out pretty soon, but uh, huge, some stuff in the background,
but nothing that I really remember. Anyway, I watched well.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I also watched all the fun final Destination films. Got
a nice rewatch in there. I watched The American Sniper immediately. Dude,
I'm telling you, if you want to, if you think
you're like man, I hate America, just go watch America
Sniper and you're all a sudden you're back in. I
actually ended up buying Chris Kyle's book too, because I
haven't read the book, so I bought the book to
read it myself. Read the True Story because a lot
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of the movie is kind of a little more all
day weekend. Yeah, see, it's a perfect time. Let's sit
down on Monday. I'm devoted a whole day to Chris Kyle.
I'm gonna read the whole book. I watched Nose Faratu
as well. Okay for the second time. Stay Alive, the
two thousand and six banger, incredible film. They should have
made a video game. I still think they should. It
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looks like a great game. Frankie Munas the peak of
Franki Munez's career. I said it was if you're in
a movie night. When we watched Stay alive. I said,
I'm gonna have my people contact his people and do
an interview. That's just about stay alive. You're my people,
so get on it. I had my people contact his people.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
My people is Chas Yeah, okay, then Dead Silence, Nice Banger,
and Cry Wolf Cry Underscore Wolf, Nice Banger. It's a
good one.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That movie actually sucks.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
It's really bad, but I love it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's a fun watch. I think the twist actually
still holds up.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Yeah. I think the reveal is like, oh cool. I
think I watched that for the first time at the
beginning of the year. It was here. It was here. Yeah,
end of last year. Must have been, because I don't
see it on my list. It's a must have been
an end of last year. Time flies already halfway through
the year. Yes, we are almost halfway through the year.
(05:49):
It's almost my birthday.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah. Yeah, that means I'm getting creeping up on twenty nine,
which means I'm creeping up on thirty.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Brother, we're old. Our ten year high school reunion is
this year technically, even though who knows if that's going
to happen. I'm not going no matter what, so.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I said, if I lose another thirty pounds.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'll go. If I lose about one hundred and fifty
pounds and gain one point five million dollars in my
i'll go.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Also, I'll have a one month old at that time.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So also they want to have it the weekend that
our town is having a festival.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Some people do anyway, and that's the one.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Weekend I never want to be even near the town.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
So I don't want to go drink some ritas.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Not. I don't want to. I can't afford it.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
You don't want to, you know, hit the town before
they shut it down, you know, but the ritas not
really carnivals this weekend you go into the carnival. No,
you're not going to bring your nephew to the carnival.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
No, I'm actually they probably will have to go for
he's a cop, got a show that we love the town.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah right right, so yeah, he's yeah, they'll probably go.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
What is it going to do there? Who knows?
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Ever, since I don't nobody cares listening to this podcast,
But we had a it was a town festival that
used to be in collaboration with their city hall in
our fire department. Well, some beef happened. It was like
on the property of the fire department. Well some beef
happened between the town and fire department. Where now the
fire department puts on their own little carnival to raise money,
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and then the festival is now separate, but it can't
be on the fire department property anymore, which was like
that's where the carnival side of the festival was.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Yeah, big open field.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, it was way better. Now it has to so
they take up It was every time this festival happens,
it takes up a bunch of the city streets, you know,
and it's it's a whole thing. But now it's even
worse because they shut down the main block, the main
route to the highway.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, I think they literally were like, hey,
fire department were actually the proceeds that we make from
the festival were not paying you anymore. Like it's to
support the town, not the fire department, and the fire
department for some reason, the police department is included, yeah,
but the fire department's not for some reason.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't know, I don't know what actually went down,
but that's the gist. So now there's two festivals one
Memorial Day one July is second weekend of July. Yeah,
something like that. Fun lot's fun, so much fun. Yeah,
the at least you could hear some good bands. Usually
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usually I haven't heard of anyone being like, oh man,
this people's playing a bronfest. I haven't heard any of that,
so I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
The last one that I recall being big was Mo Pitney.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, we had Mo Pitney.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
No, who's after that? Didn't somebody like legitimately famous? Another
country singer that was like legitimately popular. Time it was
a sky Phillips.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Was four years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Whatever one they let me on the stage for. They
put me on the stage to film him. He was
a big deal. I can't remember.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
We had Mo Pitney. Yeah, but most from around here, Yeah,
it doesn't count. We had Philip Phillips. I can't remember
who they put me on stage for to film, to
film him from behind. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Whatever in support knows, move On Holmes.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
It was just me.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
God, if it was Luke ho it was just me,
we could probably pull that off. Get the town drunk
enof where you get up on stage everyone thinks you're
actually Luke Combs.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Surprisingly I need to get a little fatter. Yeah, he
is trying to lose weight right now though. So for him,
I've seen some pictures of him and some like Jim
Him and Jim Schwartz, by the way, weird. It's just
because you're so seeing him in jeans a button up.
To see him in Jim clothes is weird. I'll be
prime Luke Combs, fat Luke Combs in his prime. That's
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who I'll be. I'm also skinny Otis skinnier Otis from.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
W Yeah, you're also less jacked Otis because boy, that guy,
what do you mean he is very strong?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah he is? Oh yeah, oh.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I'm moving on Found Station Blood Lines. Let's talk
about it. We've seen it. You've seen it twice. I
saw it twice. Must be nice.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Can't relate.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
We didn't. We're gonna put out a spoiler free review.
Didn't get a chance. Time is a viable thing. You know,
watch a fly by as the pundulum swings.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
But we were going to but then, you know, we
were really pressed for time, and there was a line
in the movie that made us sit down and think,
you know, what, life is precious? They were oh yeah,
Tony Dodd. Yeah, when you said line in the movie,
I was it made me feel like a line of people.
What do you mean there was a line of people
in the movie, And I'm like, I'm way too busy
to talk about this right now.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
We had a buddy in town that when saw it
with us, and yeah, he took up our time that day.
So he did like that movie. Yeah, yeah, he he
was one that was oh great heaven. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah. But so in a nutshell, Bloodlines, what it is
you start off probably the best opening scene that we've
probably in the franchise. It's either one or two. I
think Foundation two is probably still the best.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
I do love that log truck and the accident. I
think I'm voting for this one though. For Bloodlines.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it's it's close. I think the Bloodline is just
more interesting because they're pushing it's so unique. You know,
you're in the nineteen sixties and is the fifties or sixties? Sixties?
Uh fifty eight? What did they say? They say the year?
I can't remember what it is though. It's been like
two weeks since I've seen it. It's been one night
since you've seen it.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Well, I don't remember the text on the screen.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
Yeah, whatever, it's like sixty years ago. Yeah, uh yeah.
And so we start in the past and we're following
this woman her her boyfriend as they go to the
space Needle and a g and opening in the space
Needle and yeah, it's you know, it's just like any
Foundination film. Shit goes wrong in this movie in terms
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like the events that create the disasters. It's even more
exaggerated than ever before, for sure. Like the villain of
this movie is the penny.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
Yeah. By the way, you know, the impact of Final
Destination Bloodlines is crazy. The penny is what started the
whole franchise and the events of the whole franchise. And
as of yesterday, as we're recording this, they're no longer
making the penny. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
How interesting is that?
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Huh The impact that Final Destination has, it's crazy. They've
been they've been talking about stop making the penny for
thirty years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
They finally did it because it doesn't cost like three
cents per penny.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it's like three to five cents to make one penny, Yeah,
depending on the price of copper at the time. And
they're like, oh, businesses will round their prices up or down.
Businesses are going to round their prices down. No, they're
gonna round them up.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Oh yeah, right, like in sporting, I just typed in,
I was looking up I was gonna look up Funcinnation,
bloodlines characters on Google, and I just typed him Foundation,
blood Lines, Copper Copper.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
It is. It is in there. That's a real copper
Penny right there. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, but yeah, her name is Iris. That's was I
was something on her name. Iris.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Don't want the world to see me because I don't
think that they'd understand.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Yeah, but of course she ends up preventing She has
a vision, ends up preventing the Shine disaster. Unlike most
of the fascination films, it's like twelve to twenty peopleish
lives are saved. Give her a take.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, plane crash was what well, live saved? It's oh
live save, yeah, live sick. She saved.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
She saved like hundreds of lives, hundreds yeah, yeah, because
they were all, you know, the glasses breaking, they all
fall through and it was yeah, off they kill a
child that they sure do twice well because Tony Todd's like,
you know, he dies, his character dies, but the kid
where the piano falls on him, the kid that throw
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a penny originally Yeah, you know, yeah, he gets squashed.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
I mean technically that that was in a premonition. Yeah,
so it didn't actually happen, so it's fine, I guess. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
So because of that, saving hundreds of people like that,
they went on to have families, kids, grandkids, great grandkids.
You have this massive family tree of people who have
been born after the space needle who shouldn't be alive
because they were meant to die that day. Right, So
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everybody that has been born since then as part of
that family tree. If anyone involved in a space needle
what would have been the space need disaster, that's coming
back for him. That's got to get him. And the
whole movie, we're following Iris's family and their attempts to
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escape death. It's a good time. Now. She's really not
much more to it than that, just like conlization is
in general, there's just avoid death.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah, our people die. Our main character, what's her name, Stephanie, Stephanie.
She is having the premonitions, the same exact premonition as
her grandmother Iris.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Yeah, she's having it via nightmares.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Yeah. Fun. During finals Week two, couldn't imagine.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, it's tough, and she she's like a straight A
student in high school, top of the class, and yeah
she's flunking out. Yeah, right now, she's flunking out because
the nightmares just won't let her sleep. But they find
out that her grandmother is still alive. And this is
where there are things about this movie that I love.
(15:55):
I think it's peak zach Klopovski. That's easy to say. Yeah,
Zaklopopsky hasn't exactly had a lot of bang or films
up to this point. The last franchise movie he directed
was Leprechawn Origins, which we reviewed relatively recently in Marsh
That movie's really, really bad. It's up there with one
(16:16):
of the worst movies I've seen. Yeah, And the thing
about Zaklopovsky and his approach to Leprekank Origins is that
his big thing was he wants to do something different.
You know, he didn't doesn't want to do the same
old formulas, do something different. And if he'd have taken
that approach to Final Destination Bloodlines, we'd have been like,
fuck off, right, you know, it's we like these movies
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for a reason. We like to see crazy over the
top deaths, get some good characters in there, let's have
a good time, and luckily he suck with that formula.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, that's that's exactly what it was. Final Destination has
always been just a fun time. Yeah, a lot of
over the top deaths, comedy, et cetera. Not so much
in the first one, but really not even the first three.
Three was getting there.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
There's I mean, there's some comedy in there, but I
think I think there are some comedic characters.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well in there. They lean into that a little bit
more well and I mean, well, I guess Stiffler Sean
Williams Scott in the original, he's the dopey, the dope. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I think what Bloodlines does and kind of what four
if five not as much, but four and six do,
is that there's death or there's comedy within the death. Yes,
and I still have yet to make up my mind
how I feel about that. I don't mind the kills
in Bloodlines. There are some good ones. I think people
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have really been talking about the MRI kill. Yeah, that's
that's really the one that stands out. I think, Oh, yeah,
it's the most practical. I don't know, I you've seen
them behind the scenes clips that in post of that,
but they showed how they twisted the body in half,
and it's just two people. One's the one person's the
f one person's the top, and they just kind of
suck them in and then they added the only one
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that's practical. That's the thing about it. That's where the
more I think about bloodlines, I've had time since watching
it to really analyze it in my head, I just
think there is way too much CGI. I mean, it
is riddled with CGI deaths. And we everybody dogged on
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found Station four for doing that, for really leaning into
the three D crap and doing CGI kills and bloodlines.
Although not three D so it's not literally in your face,
it is an insane amount of CGI. Yeah, like it
could have been shot in three D and have very
similar vibes to the faadestination.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, there were definitely some times that like you could
tell it was CGI, Like the truck driving by which
truck driving by the one in the trailer. Oh yeah
that went that moved so fast. Yeah that was CGI. Yeah,
probably just a three just hall ass in a truck, dude, Well,
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it's all ass down that little neighborhood. Honestly, I was
multiple times. I'm like, oh, like, they're even the the
lawnmower killed. There was the last kill of the movie,
the big goodbye with the logs. That was the only
one where in the feeder, Yeah, took off the my
Rose couple of glasses. I was just like, all right,
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that's a lot insanely cgi. I wasn't distracted even on
the second viewing. I wasn't distracted until that last one.
I was okay with what I was watching. Yeah, I
think you can buy into it still, but just looking
at it, it's just you compared to the first three
that are a lot more practical, Like you have one
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of the best burn scenes I've ever seen is in
Foundation three, and that was done practically. Yeah, and there
is like if you look back at the log scene
and fouscination too, the log truck scene, a lot of
that's very practical. There's just a lot more practical things happening,
and that is not the case in Bloodlines and a
lot of stuff. I was thinking, like, why don't you
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do that practically? Like you could have totally pulled some
practical elements in there. You know, it was practical technically
in the opening scene the oldest person ever set on fire,
so yeah, yeah, so that was it was a long
time too, she was burning for a while. Yeah yeah, so,
I mean, of course those flames were enhanced.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
It has its moments like the ring finger, like that
was practical and it was disgusting, and that stands out yep,
because it's not cartoony crap exactly. There are certainly some
cartoony moments in Bloodlines.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, it did not take me out in my opinion,
it didn't take me out.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah. That was one of my biggest criticisms. But it
wasn't like, God, this movie sucks because of this, right.
It is so over the top. It's like, okay, the
only the only other thing that really well. I have
two things. I don't like the look of these last
three films nearly as much as the first three films,
and I think that is because they lean more into
comedy now. But they're just so bright and colorful, and
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these like livid color is very vibrant. The original three
are not like that at all. They're very dark and moody.
Fat the other moody films. I prefer that approach. I
just think it's way more serious. And yeah, it's not
there in the it's not found The's bloodline specifically, it's
just it's literally the last three films in general, they
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kind of just get more of a spoofy vibe.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
I don't know. I mean that that comes with the time, though.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Digital filmmaking, well we got we got five movies in
fourteen years, yes, and then it took another how many years?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
When did five come out? I saw five eleven eleven,
I guess so, I guess I would have been in
high school.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
So it took another fourteen years to get one more. Yeah,
it comes with the times. I guess. You can't really
have a blue movie.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
You can, It's not like get to make it blue.
It's just, man, it's a lot. It's super viral. You
can make something look very cinematic without doing that.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
I feel like it would have been interesting seeing the contrast,
because we do jump a little bit back and forth
between the fifties and sixties, the flashback and present day.
Of course, you want the pre accident to be bright
and colorful, yeah, and then you can tone it down
and get a little moody. But yeah, it's twenty twenty five.
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Gotta have a colorful movie, I guess for the ADHD
heads out there.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
The only other thing I really didn't like was so
there's old Ira of present day. She has been dodging
death for years, completely isolated from her family, now does
anything to escape death, and has locked herself in her
little cabin in the middle of nowhere and has built
literally a clash of Clash of Clan's fortress around her house.
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It is giant wood spike She's got spikes on her
fucking gutters. She's just everything like as if she was
stopping tanks, as if she was preparing for tanks to
enter her property. She's got a giant metal gate. Nobody
can come in that kind of thing. And I just
find that extremely stupid.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
It's uh, it's it's Lori Strode in Halloween.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah, it's a very exaggerated version of it. But yeah,
Lori Strode's whole fortress trap thing. Yeah, it would have
been great for Lori Strow this setup. It would have
worked very well.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, Michael would have just been standing out there. Yeah.
I just it doesn't make sense to me if your
goal is to escape the elements of death. Yeah, did
to have be around safety where's as hard as possible
for death to kill you. Then why the fuck would
you add a million weapons around your property? Like what
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is she trying to stop? Yeah, she's like, Okay, I'm
gonna put a spiky weather vein on the top of
my fortress, and then premonition, it's the spiky weather vein
that kills me.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yeah, it's not even a premonition. She just knows.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, she writing it all down. I guess it's trust
no one Like in Final Destination too, clear was in
the psych ward in the padded room. Yeah, but I
guess she still don't even trust them with her food.
I guess. I guess, Yeah, you're growing it yourself, so
you know what's in it. I guess Yeah. Clear makes
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a lot more sense to me. And fundcination too, like that.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
That approach. If you were going to try to gave
death where there's nothing it could do to stop you
or to kill you to use against you, you go
into a padded room. You don't build a clash of
clan's fortress if you can. Really, That's the another thing
I didn't get because her and her granddaughter, as Stephanie,
had the ability to see it before it was coming.
Not premonitions, but like literally like this could play out.
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I could see this is how it's going to play out,
and I can avoid that. And they were doing that consistently,
like you watch Iris do that in the house when
the flower planet is like burning, the ropes burning and
she immediately catches it and like, I see you, Dick,
you know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Maybe she built the fortress first and then saw the
I don't know, because yeah, maybe maybe death wasn't coming
for her yet. Yeah, so it's not like she's building
this fence and then you know.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
So that's just kind of where I'm talking about though,
where we're so we're leaning into spoof man, like there's
no way you rode out and designed that fortress and
then be like, yeah, this is fucking dumb. This is
so illogical. And then I did like the way that
she's like, yeah, okay, I'll let death get me now,
Like seeing his believing I like that a lot. I
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think that's the way to do it. You were dying anyway.
By the way, can death use is them having cancer
because she has cancer Old Iris and then Tony Todd
and William Bludsworth he has cancer, does that death doing that.
Is that what we're saying, Yeah, death is just like,
all right, you in I'm just gonna kill you slowly. Now,
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if death can do that, why not just give everyone
a brain hemorrhage. Yeah, like everybody that that was part
of those family trees. Because they're saying the reason took
so long to get to Iris and her family is
because it just took death a long time to work
through all those hundreds.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Of people and their families. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
But in theory, you can just.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Stroke brain hemorrhage. Yeah, lot, God, you can knock out
one hundred a day. They could have. Yeah, as they're
exiting the the space needle structure back in back in
the day, just all of a sudden, oh shit, gas leak.
Everyone said.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Well, and that's another thing because they do talk about
how everybody that was in the space you know, slowly
started dying over the years, YadA, YadA, But you gave
them so much time to have families and kids and
kids and kids and kids and kids.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Get Yeah, death only works six days a week or
something or four, you.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Know, going take one person a day?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Is that the rule?
Speaker 2 (27:35):
It's kind of how it plays out in these movies.
It's only one or two a day.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Yeah, I feel like, yeah, if you're at some point that, yeah,
death is like, okay, I'm going to give you cancer
because you're doing so well at evating me. Yeah, just
just give them a brain hemorrhage. That's all you need
to do. Come on, death, come on.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
Yeah. Really, there should be no way to avoid this scenario.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Now we could make get in scary movie they avoid
death and oh my god, we avoided death, and then
be like, oh not really, you know five four, three,
two and they all just have fucking brain hammer doesn't
fall over, be like that's how death works.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I'm waiting for one of these movies to have somebody
that escapes death, be like a straight up serial killer,
because one of the ways you can save your life
after cheating death is if you kill somebody, you take
their life and whatever time they had left you take.
I'm surprised they haven't done that where somebody is willing
(28:36):
to do that and is going to do that.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Yeah, because we had Yeah that's so interesting because ooh okay,
now we have someone living forever, go in the hospital,
kill a baby all their time they had left. Now
you get now you live forever. Why do you live
forever because you're avoiding death? You keep killing babies? Come
back later? Does it work?
Speaker 2 (28:58):
Doesn't the only work if you've cheated death before. Yeah,
you don't, just because that would means every.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
Just keep cheating it.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
How do you cheat death again?
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Uh? You have premonitions? Yeah, yeah, that would be That
would be crazy, just having someone just sitting there being like,
I have to be a serial coat, I have to
kill people because death keeps coming for me. Yeah, even
though that's kind of not how it works, because it's
just like, Okay, then we're done. You get this person's time,
and yeah we're done. Yeah right, unless you just cheat
(29:29):
it again and cheat it again, I guess.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
As wary as that just hasn't happened yet. And the
other way, apparently every time, the whole it's skipping you
is how you survive that. Every movie they they go
with that, it's like okay, it skips me, I'm good now,
and every time death comes back and kicks your ass
and it just happens again. Yeah, literally the exact same
ending for the last six movies. That's how it goes, like,
(29:55):
oh we're good now, Oh.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We're not good dang it, dang it. Yeah, every time.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I think it's yeah, except for two but yeah, the
whole If I die and I get brought back, sure,
but your heart has to stop, right, which is how
this movie ends, where Stephanie thought that she had died
because she drowned, and her brother Charlie, who is a
(30:24):
t o Briona's as I say his name from Chucky,
he's junior and Chucky but yeah, brings her back like
all right, we did it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
I brought you back from the dead. And the one
girlfriend's dad it's just like, yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Also thought that if you're brought back from the dead
like that, I thought it only save you. So wouldn't
Charlie still be fucked anyway?
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Just stops the line in this one. I guess the
rules are they change in like tiny little ways every
movie and I just don't know. Yeah, but yeah, turns
out her heart never stopped, so they were still gonna die.
And then they have this weird train crash logs crush
(31:11):
them cgi disaster that Yeah, that was the one. I'm like, oh, okay, yeah,
so just you're just throwing everything at us at this point.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
Yeah, what was the point of the car because there
was a callback to the I thought I was like
throwing off completely. I'm like, oh, did the pass change
as well? And they had the car driving over the tracks?
You know, Yeah, I have no idea. Just a sign, yeah,
I guess, just a sign that was happening. Again, Speaking
of which, do you know Stephanie's car's license plate number?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
No fl it one eight zero flight one ah.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Flight one A. Yeah, there was something else one ad
in there too. I think I actually did notice how
license plate. I think I was like, oh, that's cute.
I said that to Brendan, who probably didn't get it.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Oh yeah, whoa, Okay, I mean we do gotta talk
about Tony Todd. Well, yeah, Tony Todd having a much
more thorough scene finally get his actual character name and backstory,
some backstory. Yeah, this whole time, death has been after
him and he knew it. Yeah that that was such
(32:22):
a great, great full circle moment. Yeah, because this is
his last film role. Even Yeah, there were I'm glad
that this was truly the last one. I don't think
there's any other random projects out there that haven't released.
It could have been a shitty candy man, you know,
for his last one could have been, they could have
got another one out. Yeah, No, I believe this is
(32:45):
his last. I think there's one movie that he's still
in that was filmed in twenty fourteen that is just
in hell, just in production hell. But it's still coming out.
It's still coming out, but so we might see that
in ten more years. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
There were several movies that he filmed before he died
that started rolling out after his death. And I'm glad
that this was the one where it seems like it's
gonna be like the actual last one, because it's the
perfect goodbye. He was clearly already sick, they knew he
was dying.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, and he They told him to improvise the last
couple of lines that he said. They said, just talk
to talk to the fans, say what you want to say,
and he did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's funny because I even said that after what we
went to eat afterwards. I was like, man, it felt
like he was talking to me. It's like it clearly, Yeah,
he was saying goodbye and the best way he could.
Speaker 1 (33:38):
Yeah. I don't. I don't cry movies. Okay, all right,
tough guy, I'm a man. I did I did get
a little I almost teared up. They were they were welling.
It was tough because because yeah, clearly he was. He
wasn't talking to the camera, he was talking to us, yeah, said, yeah,
(34:01):
it was just sad seeing him like that. Honestly, he's
always been like a bigger beef for your guy. Not bad,
but face and neck. He's always been full. Yeah, and
just was skin and bones. Yeah, it was. It was tough.
It was tough to see him like that. Yeah, but
it was a very cool goodbye. Not a lot of
actors get that opportunity. Yeah, and being a constant throughout
(34:25):
the franchise and getting your full circle. All right, here's
my big here's my origin, and here's my goodbye. Not dead,
he's gonna it's gonna live his life the rest of
his life.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
You know, I didn't think of Tony falls was on Twitter.
Now that's always going to be there.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, m I mean he rested bees. But yeah, that
was that's the best scene in the movie as a result.
But oh yeah, for sure, good goat. It does get
a little convoluted after that though, in the hospital, like okay,
now we're gonna have an allergic reaction. No, don't where
are they where are they? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Between Eric and Paul. And yeah, because Eric turns out
he is not the child of Howard, Yeah right, yeah Howard.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yes, uh yeah, he turns out his mom cheated and
yeah he's actually so he's not part of the bloodline
of the Space Needle.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
So why did Death go after him?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Well, that's what I was thinking, because it looks like
he can't die. Well, even why the tattoo shit happened? Yeah,
even that, that is, why is death just fucking with him?
You know, nothing to do with it?
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Throw throw Stephanie off the trail, I guess.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
But then yeah, so Death being an asshole and having
him killed in the MRI machine is just because Eric
decided he was going to try to interfere, yeah, revenge.
What if right in that moment, Paul would have done
something where like he was trying so hard to get
the the epinephrine, you know, if he was trying so
hard to get that, it ended up he like pushed
(36:10):
Eric into the MRI machine and got him killed. And
then Paul takes over Eric's life. Where was that at?
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Come on?
Speaker 2 (36:17):
Because Eric and Paul are great characters. Everybody's simping over
Eric online rightfully, so rightfully. So he just got picked
up and if you saw he got picked up by
Convention All Stars.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Really nice, very nice. He'll start hitting cons here soon, yeah,
he he definitely was a was a scenes dealer. Yeah,
And I think actually that's the part of blood Lines
I think is the best people saying that they're horrible characters.
I'm I don't get that. I think there's some of
the better characters in the franchise. It was especially after
the first trilogy. I think I think the characters and
(36:49):
blood Lines are significantly better than four and five. So yeah,
Eric and Paul, I think are the standouts. So to
see them go kind of sucks together. But yeah, brothers
brothers going down to his brothers. Yeah, yeah, that the
MRI as soon as as soon as everyone saw the
(37:11):
the nipple piercings. Yeah we knew there was a dick
piercing We all knew. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:18):
Yeah, good for him.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Did he do it himself?
Speaker 2 (37:22):
You know what's the most unbelievable scene in the entire movie.
All this crazy shit happens in Bloodlines, but the most
unbelievable scene is Eric in the tattoo shop and he
presses play on a song and starts doing his own
tattoo on his forearm, and before the song is over,
he has completely finished a forearm tattoo that says dad,
(37:45):
that's completely filled in black.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, he's a piece of pro he's.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
That. Yeah. No, it's impossible. That is impossible to do.
Maybe was it?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Was it blank when he's started? Yeah, because I was
gonna say maybe he already had it outline, he just
had to do the filling, which I'm pretty sure you
see his blank off I think you do. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
so a little load of barnacles. He's just the goat man,
apparently best character in the entire franchise. Close to it,
(38:20):
can't be to, can't be Kevin and Wendy.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
I'll die in that hill a j clear or not
well not ag but yeah, all you're talked to Devin
Sawa like that?
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Whoa uh. I know, we haven't really liked transition to
and that's Final Destination both lines. But you ever heard
of the movie Fortune Cookie No. Two thousand and fifteen.
It's a ripoff of Final Destination.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
It look good.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
No, it's dog shit from what I hear, starring Ryan Merriman. Really,
he's in a ripoff of a movie and a franchise
that that he's in.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That he's in.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
So it's an incredible movie if Ryan Merriman is in it. True,
you should watch Backwoods sometime now. That is a rough movie.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Smoking of Backwoods. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Also, that is the real introduction of hands from the
Textang Samasker his car and it is Robert Muse so yeah,
it's literally him and it's straight up hands doesn't talk
to only gruns. Yeah, same actor ship it. Yeah, that
(39:37):
was the introduction of hands. I think you might have
a moment with a car in there too, which brings
the racing stuff in there. The movie sucks, so but
it does start Ryan Merriman and uh, Hillary Duff's sister
whose name I'm forgetting, what is her name? Brittany Brittany Duff.
That doesn't sound right, but the other Duff sister Duff.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
We were talking about, I'm a destination. Uh what are you?
What are you rating it?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Well, one more thing before we read it. Just to
the comedy in this movie.
Speaker 1 (40:13):
It is the most.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Like punchline like punchline kills we've seen where it's like,
I don't even think of an example like, well, it's
not like the kind of thing like, well, it's not
like I'm gonna lose my head or something, and then
their head blows up like it's like that kind of punchlines.
There are several where they literally predict their desks and
(40:38):
then like, I guess the whole Stephanie predicting the soccer
ball thing was. I mean, that's funny when it happens,
but that's not as bad as punchline.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
It's funny because it happens. Then in the background, that's why. Well,
and she gets fucking humbled by a soccer ball. It
was pretty funny, flipped into a trash can, didn't Wasn't
that the kid that kicked that soccer ball as a
hell of a kick? Uh? The something happened and then
the leaf blower blue something knocks over the.
Speaker 2 (41:09):
The limb trimmer and that ends up hitting the leaf
blower and the leaves. The leaves set off the kids
and they kicked the soccer ball and it hits her
in the head. She falls into the trash can and
goes into the dump truck. Yeah, it's yeah, that one's
pretty funny. They're all pretty funny. The entire movie is
going for humor with those kills, in my opinion, absolutely works.
(41:30):
Yeah it doesn't. That's just kind of what it's become.
You were in twenty twenty five. Yeah, you gotta spoonfeed us.
But that's exactly why I prefer the first three. Moon Like,
I still rank the first three higher. I still think
three is by far the best I have.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
I believe it's three one. I did have three to
one Bloodlines, two, five to four, But do you got
two so long? It's not low, it's it's just the
bottom the bottom. Oh no, No, there's a very big
difference between the best four and the bottom two.
Speaker 2 (42:06):
I think I have it as three. Probably it's probably one, two, one,
one and two can flip for me. It just a
been yeah, and then probably blood Lines, although I think
five might be the overall, like better movie, but it's
hard to say. I don't know. Blood Lines just it
(42:27):
just I think it has more likable characters, it's an
easier film to rewatch, more rewatchable. And then four, you know,
is so far at the bottom, it's not even close. Yeah, yeah, no,
I really did enjoy blood Lines. I'm sure the ranking
will change. Sure, personal ranking there I need to watch
it again. You've watched it twice.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
It comes out on VOD pretty soon. Well, okay, I
think in June. We all right, I guess I want
to get it now and then at a star rating.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I gave it a three and a half.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
I'm giving it a four for right now. It might
go down to three and a half.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yeah, three and a half feels about right. I might
give it a five, give it a two and a half.
Two and a half is what I get four, and
I think I might be a little generous.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Still, Yeah, it's it's definitely if you had to put
it in a ranking of the horror that came out
this year, where is that Hard Eyes, Until Dawn, Drop Monkey?
Speaker 2 (43:31):
I think I prefer all those, really, Yeah, I think so,
maybe not the Monk because there's very well, the thing is,
Monkey's just a little bit more practical. Well yeah, so
I give a little points for that. But the Monkey
and the Monkey is basically a foundation film for real.
Yeah so, but yeah, there's it's close to the Monkey.
But I think I'm not necessarily saying these are better movies.
(43:54):
But I think I'd prefer Until Dawn and Hard Eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
And what was there? What else was there up wolf Man.
Wolfman is under it borderline, borderlines, sucked into the deep,
into the deep, sucked. I don't know. I mean there's
still like Sinners that you haven't seen Sinners that comes
out to yeah, like this upcoming week I have as
(44:21):
of right now. As of right now, I watched it twice.
I did bump it above until Dawn, so I have
Hard Eyes Final Destination until Dawn.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Uh, it's probably more watchable than until Down. I just
don't know it's a better movie.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
I gotta watch until doawn again knowledge I'm reading the description.
Ranking is based on personal enjoyability, not star rating perfect
so but I mean that's gonna move. This whole list
is going to change a million times, especially when there's more.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Hard Eyes is still dominating to me. This year is
for most enjoyable, I think, so big fan. I haven't
rewatched the Monkey, so I own it now, but I
haven't rewatched it. I gotta re that'st thing. You really
got to rewatch at least two more times before you
can really be like this is my ranking. This is
(45:11):
where it's I had a weird craving to watch wolf
Man again, and I have the four K, so I'm
gonna have to make that happen.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
It's funny you say that. The other night we were
streaming and like someone in the chat said something about Wolfman.
I'm like, yeah, I don't want to watch it. Yeah,
I have this steel book, all right, I know what
we're doing. Perfect Wolf space Man, Wolf space Man, Cry
underscore Wolf, Wolf Space Man. A lot of weird wolf
(45:39):
titles out there. Cry underscore Wolf is pretty fucking dumb.
I don't know what they were thinking with that, because
you can't just call it cry wolf. You have to
call it cry underscore Wolf. That's true.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
It's because it takes place on the internet.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
It's his Christian name.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
Every time I watched that movie, though, I miss aim
a lot. Yeah, just the sounds hearing that, the sound
of aol instant messengers, like, oh, better times, simpler times.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
We had no responsibilities back then.
Speaker 2 (46:09):
You used to change your status and stuff on there.
Speaker 1 (46:12):
I'm fine, I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
Do you remember my Space and every time somebody started dating,
they would change their name to I heeart that person.
Oh yeah, fucking.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Change their songs and add like of the of the
top songs on your profile, like at least two of
them were a love song for them, and then everybody.
Speaker 2 (46:30):
I'm every time somebody would get a girlfriend, they would
change it. They would add the take a look at
my girlfriend. It'd always add that fucking song.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
What is that song?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
Cupid Cubid something, isn't it? Cupid choke Hold?
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Cupid Cupid's choke hold? Yeah, not Cuban, not Cuban. Yeah, cheesy,
only one I got.
Speaker 2 (46:52):
I remember that.
Speaker 1 (46:53):
Yeah, that was on everybody's MySpace profiles. I miss MySpace.
How's Tom doing? Probably fine. I'll be living on a
beach somewhere that he does photography that makes sense. He
posts guess where he posts all his pictures?
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Facebook?
Speaker 1 (47:10):
Instagram? Uh oh, how the turntables is my space? Because
my Space made to come back? Is it still?
Speaker 2 (47:18):
It isn't like almost exclusively music? Isn't that the point
of it now? Is music?
Speaker 1 (47:25):
I don't even know what the fuck this is. Join
the millions of musicians and artists on myspacelia, so it's
it's just a music social media for musicians. I'm seeing
Whoopy Goldberg, Sabrina Carpenter, Conan O'Brien.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Drake, Oh, not a good look, Woody Harrelson Harrels Pazzi
from like twenty years ago. Uh ooh uh uh holy shit.
What is his name? He's got a cool name, Rice Alba. Yeah,
(48:03):
I think I'm gonna sign back up. It just keeps going.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Time to meet the comeback. How many those people are
active on MySpace? Zero?
Speaker 1 (48:13):
No? Shot, Right, it's probably you know what, it probably
would be a place I want to go. It's probably
all just Midwest emo bands on there. Probably that sounds
like the perfect social media for me. Probably I'm gonna
sign up. I'll have a status report. No I won't, No,
I'll forget. Okay, Well that's foundation Bloodlines. Did enjoy it.
(48:35):
I think it's even a better theatrical experience. I do
recommend seeing in theaters if you can. Yeah, there were
a couple there were a couple booms that really boomed. Yeah,
it's a good time. Loved it.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, that's it. Okay, it's a wraple this episode of
Make Every Deathcount. You enjoyed, Like you said at the beginning,
make sure you leave a review wherever you listen. Appreciate that,
and we'll see in a couple of weeks. Because that's
our new programming.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
I don't know what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
I don't either.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
I forgot we're tossing up fear Street. Fear Street. Maybe
not in a cornfield, it's coming on V O D.
I think it's hard to talk about good movies. Maybe
Sinners is a is a contender. If there's a conversation
that we had, is it all the above? You might
get some bonus episodes sprinkled in. You are all of
(49:22):
them in one episode twenty minute review. Each relliant could
now see okay with that as always, thank you so
much for listening, and we'll talk to you next time. Bye.
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