E147: Weapons (2025) | Spoiler Review & Discussion - Make Every Death Count

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I'd say within the next three four weeks we might
be able to do without the AC on. Hopefully. We
were in the fifties, I mean fifties at night. We're
in the fifties at night last weekend. Now this weekend
we're in the nineties. But it was fun while lasted. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well I guess so today we're gonna reviewing Weapons, Zach

(02:05):
Creigor's new film, writ and directed by Zach Cregor of
Why His Kid. You know, huge fan of Barbarian. Yes,
I actually just rewatched Barbarian last week because it's on
Netflix right now. So I rewatched it last week. I
was I was editing photos for a client, sitting there
on my iPad, and that's when it's a background noise

(02:26):
throwing Barbarian. End up getting like wildly invested again, even
though I obviously know what happens that movie upon rewatch.
I think when we reviewed it, I don't know if
correct me, if I'm wrong, We'll see if your memory
is better than mine. When we reviewed Barbarian, didn't we
say that it's one of those movies it's not like
super rewatchable. I'm pretty sure we did, because like great
first time watch. Not so sure it's something I could

(02:48):
throw on and watch all the time. I think we
both said that and read on that was wrong. I
like to walk it back as well. Yeah, watching it again,
I was like, Wow, this is significantly better than I remember.
I just there's something about with Justin Long. Anything with
Justin Long, you just the goat, but something when you
know who his character is, and that reveal of the

(03:12):
type of person he is. Once you know that, watching
it the whole time, it just gives you a different
perspective of it. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
Yeah, and again we'll die on the hill. The first
act of Barbarian is the greatest short film I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, yeah, really, there's a lot of potential with just
that concept alone. But then he goes off the rails.
But like the second and third act, we're just significantly
better this time watching it again, I agree.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
I rewatched it maybe like three months ago, and yeah,
it definitely got better second time around.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
I think up to this point, I think there's still
no physical release for Barbarian. Is that changing? I think
that actually might be changing. I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Actually, I know people have been ripping their own yes,
because one of.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
The most like fan made. Yeah, I still don't think
there there's a physical release yet.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
No.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
I thought I heard there were rumors of a four
K steel book dropping, and it needs to happen. I
can't believe, because they went all in on the pre
release marketing where they sound out the baby bottles. You know,
if you're gonna do stuff like that, like, how can
you not have a physical release? Come on?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
So, I'm sure with the response to weapons, I'm sure
Barbarian will be getting a steel book, a four K,
maybe even a double pack with weapons.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, I don't like double packs. I don't.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
I don't mind it. I buy it.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
I want it to have its own release the way
it deserves, a limited edition four K steel book like
The Monkey Guy one. Yeah, right away too, Barbarian, I
think is significantly better than the Monkey absolutely, So come on,
what can happen? Yeah, but that's what we're talking about today.
We're talking about weapons, which a lot of people are

(04:57):
saying is better than Barbarian. I saw, I think even
I think it was JT. Muhlner. I saw say it
was a big step up from Barbarian. Okay, I don't
know if I believe that. I don't know if I'm
on that train. However, thoroughly enjoyed it. Yes, you know,
just like a spoiler free review for two seconds, like

(05:20):
it's the first half the movie is like a ten
out of ten at first, like two thirds of the movie,
Like it's very high ranking for me.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yes, I was in the theater and throughout most of
the film, at least two thirds of the way, and
I'm like, is this a legit ten out of ten
for me?

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Like this? I loved it.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, took a little bit of a turn towards the end,
but still thought it was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Yes, I really enjoyed it, just yeah, the end. I
think the end is gonna end up making or breaking
it for people. I think there's a lot of people
that are gonna get to that last act, the climax
of the film, and they might go, I hate this movie. Yeah,
this is this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
But a lot of people will be like, that was dope.
I enjoyed that. Yep. Sweet. I think either way it

(06:07):
still falls off some at the end. But yeah, I
mean before we dive into spoilers, do you want to
talk about what you've watched? Yeah, sure, I watched it
a lot. You should give us recommendations on our website
at make everydeth count dot com and leave us a
voice message. Yes, please listen to it on the show.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Please do so since since our last I Know What
You did the last summer. Yes, quickly, I watched Sharknado
because it was Shark Week. That's the only shark movie
I watched during Shark Week.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
What a choice?

Speaker 5 (06:38):
The best shark movie ever made?

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Question Mark, It's close.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Then I watched I Still Know What You did last
summer in the hotel room at flashback weekend. Same Then
I watched Night Bright elm Street right after twenty ten. Yeah.
Also in the hotel room, watched The water Boy. Yes,
go to It, great film. Then we watched Scooby Doo
and The Cyber Chase. I made sure to log that one.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
I gave it four out of five.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Then I decided to look at like real cinema, so
I watched The Social Network. Yes, amazing, great flick. Yes
lost in translation. First time I seen that. It's two
thousand and three Bill Murray seventeen year old Scarlett Joyanson.
Oh yeah, yeah, and it's It is probably one of

(07:31):
the best movies I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
It's very good.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
I watched Adaptation, which is Nick Cage playing twins. He's
a screen they're both screenwriters. Shit goes kind of crazy.
Also thought it was very good. I watched Hurry Up Tomorrow,
which is Jenna Ortega and The Weekend Ladies and Gentlemen
the Weekend and it's the biggest piece of dog shit.

(07:59):
It's horrible. After Death of a Unicorn and Hurry Up
Tomorrow and even the one like fanfic movie that she did,
Miller's Girl recently, I kind of want to fire her agent.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, she is picking some weird ass films.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
She did okay in it. The Weekend horrible and the
whole movie was just was just the Weekend soundtrack. Yeah,
it was really bad. And then I watched Sinners.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh yeah, I liked it.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
I did give it a four out of five, but
they thought it was very good.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
That seems good to me.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
I watched Strange Darling, Oh you did watch I did
three and a half out of five.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
I enjoyed it deserves a four. I enjoyed it. And
then Weapons. Yeah, I did not log much recently. I'm
out of the I'm out of the loop. I've watched
I Know Which Lastummer and I still know Chia that
summer like six times since last time we talk. I
had Screamed three on on my on VHS today, so

(09:04):
I watched that about five times. I've watched about every
Scooby Doo animated film you can imagine because of my son. Yeah, sure,
because blame it on Kate. Yeah, watch Jurassic Park. I
watched Jaws again. I've been watching WWE Unreal. I just
finished episode three. That is a sweet show. Yeah, I
like what they're doing over there.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I've heard good things.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's uh. I know some people are like, god, k fabe,
you're ruining this for me. To me, I it makes
me respect the show even more. We we obviously know
it's fake, we know what Gorilla is and all that,
but it to see just how every little detail is
planned out, it's just cool and you it's also nice

(09:48):
seeing all of the although it could you know, ruin
the k fabe, you ruin the illusion for you, but
seeing certain like heels, especially the women like this. There's
a lot of like Karen type characters, like Chelsea for example.
Seeing her like the real hers, she's pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, I've seen her on podcasts and stuff and and
clips and yeah, she seems pretty cool irl.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, but she's got one of the most annoying characters possible.
You know, Karen, She's a Karen, that's her job. But yeah,
then Rhea Ripley, Rhea Ripley. I had something I want
to tell you about Riha Ripley in that show, and
I can't remember what it was. She she collects some
interesting things. Yeah, she's obviously a big horror movie fan,

(10:29):
huge terrifier fans. She's gonna end up being in terrify her.
For ah. She is also in just kind of like
stuffed animals, like literal stuffed animals like taxi tax she's
in a taxidermy. Yeah, oh, like you're Norman Bates. That's crazy,
and that's it's an art. It's just a little weird.

(10:52):
I don't know, it can be weird. It's funny. It
just depends on what the animal is. It's funny how
you judge it differently based on whatever the animal is.
Because like if you go into like a hunter's cabin
and there's a fucking buck on the wall, you know,
flinch at that. Like my dad, for example, has two
mounted bear heads that he got that he killed in Canada.

(11:14):
So that's like that just feels normal to me. But
then if it's like a fox, it suddenly gets weird.
Don't stuff your dogs, don't recommend that. Yeah, you know,
what's the every thing I don't know how to feel about.
You've seen that one company where when your dog dies,
they'll take like a picture of your dog and turn

(11:34):
it into like a stuffed animal, like a cuge stuffed animal,
so you you remember of that way. I don't know
how to feel about that one either. That's not weird,
it's like but it just something about it creeps me out.
But I could see how that'd be very comforting. So yeah,
I guess just depresses me.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
I'm definitely not stuff in my cat, even though she's
nineteen years old and my best friend in the world.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Definitely not stuff in my cat. Yeah. I don't know.
I just feel like that was seeing a even just
as like a stuffed animal like a toy would I
don't know. Yeah, it make me sad all the time. Yeah,
I have enough pictures popping up already. Yeah, I can't.

Speaker 5 (12:15):
Hey, ten years ago you took this picture of your cat.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I'm like, I know she's so young. I get that
in my cat all the time too, all the time,
all the time. I don't know, that's that's pretty I
just watched to bring her back. Yeah, that was good.
I have not checked that out yet. I don't know
what i'd rate it, MA me three and a half. Okay,

(12:38):
maybe you could argue before that was pretty good. Did
you like it better than talk to me? Yes, it's
I think the first again first half to talk to me.
I think it's fantastic and that it takes a big
fall off. The Bring Her Back may not have the
same peak that Talk to Me does at the beginning,
but it's way more consistent like get it finishes the job,

(13:01):
although it does have a very like well no, not
as bad as weapons were all of a sudden you
just kind of cut to credits. But the ending just
kind of it happens pretty quick. Okay, but yeah, I
know it's on my list.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Also on my list, like top of my list is
the new King of the Hill. Yeah, which, by the way,
I've heard a report that King of the Hill and
WWE's doing something next week.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
I don't know, that's interesting. Did you see that Hank
was on THEO Von's I do. That's so much effort,
so much effort for them to do those clips.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
They're going all in. Hulu is going all in on
marketing King of the Hill, even though they're not going
to be a thing in a year.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
That's already kind of what Hulu was becoming. Anyway, why
I would do the same thing about as Disney, just
take all their shit and put it on to Disney. Plus,
well they already were right, so just who cares?

Speaker 5 (13:52):
It started out they threw everything that was not PG
or G rated and threw it on Hulu and then
they're like, eh, we could use a little more. How
about the SIPs? Yeah, how about everything else?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
And then ninety percent of the people that are actually
subscribed to Hulu are only subscribed because of the bundle
deal through Disney Plus. Same with like ESPN users.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's definitely definitely interesting because Hulu as a brand is
definitely worth a lot. Yeah, so just like disbanding, it
just absorbing and disbanding is kind of kind of weird.
But Disney can afford to do that because they don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Are they still going to be calling things like Hulu
like Hulu Originals Just Hulu is just gonna be on
the same app as Disney, like Hulu is the production company.
Yeah maybe, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
That's a lot of rebranding. Yeah, but it's Disney. So
they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
They should just keep Hulu as a brand, just not
have Hulu be an app. Just Hulu Originals will be
featured on Disney Plus.

Speaker 5 (14:50):
Next, you're gonna tell me they're going back to Max?

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Uh? Probably?

Speaker 5 (14:55):
Actually, did you hear Warner Brothers Discovery merged and became
More Brothers Discovery, and then now they're splitting, so now
it's going to be Warner Brothers and Discovery. What the
fuck are they doing? Warner Brothers made a lot of
weird decisions lately.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah. One of the uh, well that then WWE is
now going to be streamed on ESPN, and then ESPN
bought NFL Network and you know Red Zone and all that. Like,
that's messy over there too. Where is the fcc TC
monopolies everywhere here? Yeah? Yeah, it's a with WWE being

(15:33):
on ESPN. WWE is so stupid for the for not
talking about p l e s the way they should
have with the ESPN because it made it seem like
everybody would have to spend thirty dollars a month to
watch the plees. But if you have any cable provider,
you get it for free. You just watch it that way.
With that, you just sign in with your table or

(15:53):
TV cable provider, which is great. Can UFC consider something
like that? I'm sure they are not gonna because I would.
And then the ESPNWE is a completely separate subscription than
ESPN Plus, right, so I was like, oh, ESPN plus
would already pay for It's cool, but no, it's a

(16:14):
separate thirty dollars a month, which would have been trash,
but because because you just sign it with your TV provider. Yeah,
you know, with like YouTube, DV and whatnot. It's okay.

Speaker 5 (16:25):
A lot of monopolies out here.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
Everything is monopoly if you look at umbrellas in general,
Like the food industry is awful about it, like soda soda, and.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Like how Pepsi owns everything.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Yeah, Pepsi owns everything, Coke owns anything left over, free
do La, and how everything is under that freeo La umbrella.
It's wild if you actually look into it, it's the
umbrella is crazy. Yeah. Did you know that RB's owns
Buffalo Wild Wings. That's interesting, the fact.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
That RB's is struggling, but Buffalo Wild Wings is goaded.
It is the only thing keeping Rby's alive. The only
thing keeping beat Ups is alive is sports.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
Yeah. If hell, if they weren't a sports bar, they
would be on the struggle bus. They're like a it's
just a mainstream sports bar.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Jason Kelsey tells me to go there.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
I go there. Well, I one thing great about it
is the UFC premium beat ups, which I don't know.
I gotta assume one of the ones around us does it.
That's so I guess that's what we're doing, and then
start going to beat ups instead of paying eighty dollars
a month.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
Probably have to go there like really early, like early
prelims early, which.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
What I like watching the early prelims. Yeah, I don't
have any complaints, So.

Speaker 5 (17:44):
Do ciovon bring it all the way back.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
We'd be best friends. Sure, let's talk about weapons. If
you haven't heard about it, stop watching this is go
watch it. That's my recommendation. Absolutely, don't don't listen to
a spoiler review unless you've seen it. But starting Julia
Garner and Josh Brolin on top of others, which it's
it's funny because they just kind of disappear for a

(18:06):
little bit. Yeah, because of the way the storytelling takes place.
But rough synopsis here, essentially, out of nowhere, seventeen kids
go missing, and those seventeen kids are all part of
one classroom, and in that classroom only one kid remained
cute little it was his name Andy. It's it's been

(18:28):
a day, Alex. There's an Andy in here somewhere, a
lot of a's got Archer with Josh Brolin, got Justine
to any am I the only person when you hear
the name Justine you think of I Justine. We can't
have that name to be around anymore. But she's still around. Yeah,
but which is funny. She doesn't really getting views anymore,

(18:50):
but she's around. Still better than us, that's it matters. Yeah,
but yeah, So you have Julia Garner playing Justine, who
is a teacher of this class. So she ends up
becoming like a target of the town because these kids
just out of nowhere, no idea. At two seventeen am,
in the middle of the night, they left. Yeah, all

(19:12):
seventeen of those kids took off, looking like they're pretending
to be airplanes with their hands out, all weird, and
into the darkness, into the darkness. And that's it. And
then the rest of the movie is following that mystery,
going character by character and following their stories and their
perspective of what happened, which I love that type of storytelling.
If you've ever seen The Haunting of Hill House, it's

(19:34):
kind of like that. I think it was Dave McRae
that described weapons as what felt like a long like
eight episode serie mystery series put into a film. Yeah,
that's exactly what it felt like, because you start, you
start with Justine and you're getting her perspective and how
she's being attacked and people think that it has to

(19:55):
do with her. And then we go over to Archer,
who was an asshole at the city hall meeting to Justine,
and you get his perspective and why he feels the
way he does. And then you're going over to the officer.
You're even going over to the town drug addict, you know,
you get Alex the kids perspective as well. Yeah, and
so I like that you're just constantly kind of rewinding

(20:17):
and you're following the characters one at a time. I
think that kind of type of storytelling is fun because like, oh,
I've been here before, but here's what actually happened. You
learn more as it goes on, you keep filming in
the blanks. Yep. Yeah, I was insanely invested until I
had like a kind of like a oh that's lame,

(20:39):
not not lame, but it just once you get an
answer to the mystery, which is the kids have been
in the basement of this house the whole time. Alex's
house where his parents are clearly like, we knew earlier
in the film that they were fucked up something. Whether
it was possession or what, we didn't know yet, but
we knew that something was wrong with that house to

(21:00):
begin with. Uh. And then yeah, the drug addict whose
name I don't recall, I figured out once I see it.
It's not Paul. Now Paul's the James. Yeah, James James. Yeah,
James is out trying to just get money. He needs

(21:21):
money for his heroin and all his other drugs. He
did a lot, and he had a lot going on
in that tent, diversifying. Yeah, good for him. Yeah, but yeah,
he needed some money to pawn, to steal some stuff,
pawn it off to get money for more drugs. And
he saw that that house looked abandon so he broke
in and looked into the basement, found all the kids

(21:43):
standing there, and yeah, then you.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Know, just kind of sat on it until he found
out there was a fifty thousand dollars reward.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Yeah, then he was all about it.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Which I maybe you flip the principal, Marcus and him,
Maybe you flip them. Yeah, their stories it's a little closer.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
To the end. Then I don't know which reveal would
have been less satisfying. I guess, like, what would have
taken me out more finding out she was a witch
and participating in witchcraft. Oh no, it's a character you
don't know, Gladys is a character you don't know, right,
I don't know. Yeah, if that would have been uh

(22:24):
less interesting, or if discovering the kids and being like, oh,
that's where they are this whole time, it's like, Okay.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
I guess, I guess, like they're in the basement. Weird
shit's going on?

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Why? And then you immediately.

Speaker 5 (22:39):
Find well, you do in the principles perspective, you do
find out that Gladys is a witch.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, it's not while they don't they don't spoon feed
it to you and exactly what Gladys's goal was. It's
pretty clear that she was using the kids to feed
off of their soul. Yeah, she is trying to dage,
which the biggest part of that is watching her hair

(23:07):
come back. She starts off ball, she starts getting like
strands of hair, and then by the end of the
movie she's got some like full gray hair going. So
she's using witchcraft with these kids to dage. They just
never really show how she's doing it, right, So I'm
actually you don't quite understand what she can do with this.

(23:28):
So we you know she's got the freaking thorn thing
she you basically you take a piece of something from
a person, wrap it with something someone else's belonging, and
once you put your blood in there, wrap it around
and you snap this twig that that person will attack
the other one. But what were the kids going for

(23:52):
when she lured all the kids to the house. Were
they on the path to attack something? I don't know.
I don't know, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (24:06):
I think, uh it was just to summon them, because
that wasn't with the stick or anything. That was a
bowl of fire. Oh, you rip them all in and
then lit it on fire, and that summoned them at
two seventeen?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
How much power does she truly have? What kind of thing?
Because then we see that the salt line she's putting down.
If you were to cross the salt line, they would
then attack you. Right, So there's just a I guess
a lot you could do with it. She's very powerful, Yeah,
except she's why she waits a long a d age
Huh for real?

Speaker 5 (24:38):
Yeah, maybe she Maybe she's thousands of years old.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
She could be the only reason she was there was
because her she needed help, she was sick and needed
help from her niece, and so they was her niece, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Think so for sure, because they kept calling him Alex's aunt.
Was she was it also his mom's aunt or was it?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Yeah? Right, so it would be his great aunt. Yeah right,
I think that was the point. I guess, so, yeah,
not only it's her sister, probably not right, Yeah, the uh,
it's just because, like you, the mystery just kind of
quickly gets resolved like you. Because I think that's what

(25:24):
was keeping me so intrigued. That's why that that first
two thirds of the movie maybe a little Less was
so freaking good because you're just slowly getting fed the answers,
like you're slowly filling in the blanks, and then all
of a sudden, it's just there they are. And then
next scene this is why it's like Witchcraft, and so
that that happened so quick, and then we just kind

(25:44):
of spend the rest of the movie in more of
a I guess kind of an action scenario and uh,
having that final throwdown, which it was funny Uh, there
was no way to not make it funny.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
I thought of some ways to not make it funny,
So Zach call me up. Yeah, it definitely was comedic. Uh,
And that's where it lost me. I was fully in,
like this is a ten out of ten movie until
the call climax, the actual climax, Yeah, where Alex uses

(26:24):
her wig hair, snaps the stick and the kids go
and attack her.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
Then from that point on I was like, oh, trash,
not trash, but it just wasn't my The vibe certainly changed. Yes,
it was because it's really not a horror.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Comedy at all up until that point. Right.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
You do have your James, the drug addict is very
much a goofy guy.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
Yeah, and like you, even the moments with Gladys, like
in the Woods, I think that was genuinely creepy. She
had some like the jump scares and the dream sequences. Yeah.
I don't really think other than a couple of moments
with James and maybe a couple moments of Paul, I
don't really think there were funny moments.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
But I think it worked very well because we were
tense up until his perspective, and we got the comedic relief,
We got to chill, and then we got jump scared,
and then we.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Got action, and then we got kept going. Yeah, you know,
it was the one thing that probably it probably would
have made it funnier in the climax, which maybe why
they didn't do it. When they when Alex snaps the
twig and all the the kids go running and start

(27:37):
chasing Gladys, they run normal. They run like fucking zombies.
They had Dawn of the Dead zombies when they do
anything else or diving through windows, breaking through doors, et cetera.
If they would have done the plane run with the
arms out, I don't know. I kind of would have
wanted to see why I don't there was like a
lack of consistency with that because Marcus did it, the
principal did it. When he was chasing down a scene,

(28:01):
he ran like that. So one of one of the
kids run like that.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
It must have just been like, we don't know why
he's doing this yet. Yeah, so okay, it's related to
the kids and how they ran, and then by the
end we knew all everything, so they didn't need to anymore.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
That's the lame.

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Yeah, it was definitely definitely goofy at the end, you know,
with the guy lawn mowing and running through the houses.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
It was clearly it was edited and shot in a
way to be funny, like they knew what they were doing.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
If it were me to make it not funny or
not as funny, I would have had it where she
runs out of the house right outside the front door,
and in slow mo the kids are jumping through the
window and get her down right there. Yeah, I'll say
that the way to make it not funny is keep
the chase shorter, classical music ending on the front lawn.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Yeah. Yeah, you just had to. You had to make
a shorter chase because honestly, I was thinking in the moment,
because we've seen that anybody that's under this witchcraft, basically
their endurance doesn't mean shit, right, Which is that why
marks his eyes were slowly coming out of his head
because he was just running full force, and just is
there if you were to truly push your heart beyond

(29:13):
your that level of endurance, would that start to happen?
Because that's what I thought was happening, is like he
was truly pushing his body further than it could go
because witchcraft. So I thought that's why they made his
eyes start popping out like that.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
It was a good touch because as he's running throughout,
like they get bigger and bigger.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
I don't know if it was just because like he
was so focused and running that like eventually it just started, yeah,
just receding.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
His eyelids were receding. He was just so focused. I
guess if he's not blinking at all, I don't that's interesting.
I don't know. Somebody tell me the science behind that, please,
But yeah, her, clearly the d aging was effective on
her because I was like, how the hell are you
even getting away from these kids? She's just as fast,
she wasn't gassing out.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Yeah, And then we kind of get because because part
of me I had to think about it was like, yeah,
she was just like sucking their power from them because
they were there. But then it made sense because at
the end the narrator, which by the way, the narrator
is the only part I'm like, huh.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, it's a little girl that you never she this.

Speaker 5 (30:21):
This happened at my school. I wasn't in the classroom,
he wasn't my friend. It's just in my school, Like, okay, cool,
just a little creepy for the end really where she's like,
you know, some of the kids have even started talking again,
so like she was sucking their their their life force
from them, slowly but surely, and some kids got.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Hold on.

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Let me think of the wording here. I don't want
to say sucked. Some kids were affected more than others.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
Yeah, energy revoked more than others. Correct. Yeah, so I
guess that's what she was doing in her room, and
that's what the fucking bonds eye looking tree was. Maybe.
I don't know. I'm sure there's actual witchcraft studies that
would answer these questions. I'm sure has acted his research,
and it's just not filling in the blanks for me
at this point until I do my own research. But yeah,

(31:16):
that what was I gonna say? Fun the narrator, I
don't know. Well, oh so that was one thing that
kind of bothered me, where I think just part of
the climax that people might hate. But the ending is
really not satisfying. You're kind of like it's very sad. Yeah,
and it happens quick. It happens quick like Josh Broland's archer.

(31:39):
He you know, he finally finds his son Matthew Matthew
turns out to be a fucking prick by the way. Yeah,
he was the bullying Alex, which I don't I kind
of wish that wasn't the case because I want to
root for Archer, right, you know, and then you're like, oh,
your kid's a little ship Archer. Damn it.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
I mean he is kind of a big ship Archer. Well,
we only see him with Justine, but then he like,
you know, he saves Justine's life and then he yeah,
you're right, Yeah, he's when he was a baseball coach too.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Yeah he was. He was definitely a leader of the aggressors. Yeah. Yeah,
very vocal.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
But you know, you're a parent, all these kids go missing,
there's no answer. You're gonna be freaking out.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
To probably wouldn't have painted witch on the side of
her car like he did. Yeah, and then it's not clue.
I guess he had to be the one that was
knocking on Justine's door and going after her. Yeah. Interesting,
but uh yeah, but so he's under the whole witchcraft thing.
She does a whole twiggy thing on him and tries
to get Archer to attack Justine, and he's got her

(32:41):
in like a choke hold and then once she dies
and they the kids fuck her up. It was awesome. Yeah, yeah,
I do like that. He's good he stamps out of
he's good, and then, uh, well, Paul is already dead.
No coming back from that. The parents are not okay.
They they were enough to hug Alex. Yeah, but they

(33:06):
we find out were they hugging back because he was
hugging them. Maybe not. I don't think they were. I
think they were just fucking brain dead.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
But but yeah, at the end, the narrator said, like
he went to live with another aunt. Yeah, who I
hear is very friendly.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, he said that. The narrators said, they're still eating
soup every day, They're still being force fed, and.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
So yeah, they must have they got even more life.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Sucked out of them. Yes, I just I wish. I
know it would be kind of like, oh, how convenient,
but I do wish they would have been able to
bounce back and at least we saw some scent of
life from them.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
Uh that.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Yeah, whether they were hugging back Alex or whatever, it's
just such a depressing ending. And then all the kids
are not talking. I guess they started to talk. Some
of them have even started to talk again, how does
that work?

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Like?

Speaker 1 (33:56):
This is where I just wish I could understand more.
I like how Zach Kreger is spoon feed you answer?
He doesn't make it fucking like cleurse so clear what
he's doing. You got to fill in some of your
blanks yourself, which is again I think for a lot
of people that works really well. But I just even
some of the audience reviews I've seen in this movie
on Ron Tomatoes, a lot of them are like, I

(34:16):
don't like this was confusing your shit, I have no
idea what happened? That kind of thing. Sometimes you got
to fill in the blanks yourself. I just have questions.
But I'm curious about not saying it's a bad thing.
It wasn't.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
It wasn't a satisfying ending. I think I think it
works enough for me. They won, But at what cost?

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Kind of a thing? I think I would have wanted
it to go a little bit longer and just show
us the parents reuniting with the kids, and show us
Alex with his aunt and just like, how are they doing? Brother?

Speaker 5 (34:49):
I think it would have been fine if you know
the kids were starting to make the recovery and then
we go to Alex and Alex is asking his aunt,
you know, how are mom and dad? Can I see
him today? And I like, even if they still didn't
have a happy ending, they were like, no, they they're not,
We're not going to see him today. Yeah, Like, even
if that was the only I guess sad note, I

(35:09):
feel like that would have been more satisfying.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
But yeah, just I don't know.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Just yeah, we we did it, We got past this,
but people were affected forever.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
I guess. Yeah, I guess any reason to see Justin
Long again would have been nice. Justin Long was in
this movie. Yeah, not enough for ninety seconds maybe, yeah,
about ninety seconds of screen time. Yeah, he was great, though, Yes,
we need more of it. Every Zach Kreiger movie ever
has Justin Long in it. Yeah, all three of us, me,

(35:40):
you and Brendan. When Justin locks you up, we were
all like, is that Justin Long? Same thing when when
Ray was on screen, yep, Toby huss Yeah, I'm like,
he got pain his penis. He's also in the New
King of the Hill. He's because Johnny Harbick died.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
He's Dale Oh yeah yeah, uh but yeah he showed
up and we were like, well, not Brendan, And it.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Was like, oh, yeah, how did you feel about Archer
figuring out the map and the It's very goonies but.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
You know, it definitely was a little goofy. Yeah, but
I mean he's a he's a smart guy.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
I can't believe people didn't figure it out, right.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Yeah, he was the one that had to figure it out.
I guess because he has maps, because he's a contractor.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
I guess. By the way, on the for the red
paint that he bought for the door. So did he
buy the red paint with the intention of writing witch
on her car and he ordered under the company name
so that he could just go return him? Yeah? Or
like yeah, did somebody which jaj butch some fucking paint dude? Why?
Because yeah, I don't think he wanted the door to
be painted red. He was like, oh shit, that paint

(36:48):
was for me, not anybody else in my bad who
see yeah? Who see Yeah?

Speaker 5 (36:53):
He He's like, oh no, I'll return it.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
That's on. That's completely my fault. Guy. What was the
other thing that? Fuck the was it the window window
pane of the you mess up something else where? They
were going to have this all the siding done because
of the order of the room and whatever. I guess
that kids go missing. Yeah, it just shows that he's distraught. Yeah. Yeah,
but uh, the last two things, I know, we actually

(37:19):
have three things that I know I need a touch
on her. I'm going to be I'm mad that I forgot. Yeah,
one was the map. It seems so easy to figure out,
like anybody, by the way, there should have been a
lot more fucking camera footage, Like no one on the
street for of Alex's street had a ring camera that
would have detected seventeen kids running down the road. Yeah,

(37:40):
I understand, listen because the plot says, so I get it. Yes,
but in twenty twenty five, especially in the neighborhood, they
were in nice houses that plenty of cameras like that
out there. I'm sure somebody, and then no witnesses, Nobody
in that entire block saw seventeen kids sprinting down the road.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
No one in the entire town was awake to even
see one or two running from across the town.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah, no, I just it. That is so unbelievable to me.
I don't know. It's funny, like we we don't question
the witchcraft, but these kids not being spotted by people
that had noised the fuck out of me for some reason,
How the hell did you guys? Like nobody, nobody picked
them up on camera? Nothing. I wish there actually was
an answer for that, like somehow they were fucking invisible

(38:26):
or something. I don't know, give me something too dark.
I guess it's just those cameras are literally designed to
do that. That's literally the point of them. But yeah, uh,
I'm surprised there weren't more, even the parents having the
cameras to figure out, Yeah, these kids are running a
straight line this direction like that should have been put
together quickly. It shouldn't have been a freaking it shouldn't
have been Archer figuring that out and crossing these paths.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
I guess they were just more obsessed with getting an
answer and it being Justine. It's her fault somehow. Yeah,
I guess they just never thought about triangulating the points.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, they and they, Yeah, because he should have known
that they were running right at Alex's house, especially because
then why didn't anybody check on Alex's house more often?
There should have been a welfare check the second they
put newspapers up on the windows. We should consider a
welfare check.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Well, because they did as mowed the lawn because there
were newspapers up in the windows. And then Gladys said
they're gonna come. Don't tell the cops or the detectives anything.
Sent the kids to the backyard into the woods, I guess.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
And then nobody spoted them. That was the middle of
the fucking day. Nobody saw them then either.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
It's just crazy to me, like, come on, man, And
then took all the newspaper down and then put the
newspaper back up.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
Yeah, she cleaned the hell out of that house. She did.
She did a good job. Yeah, good for her.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Well, I guess it was probably Alex that did most
of the work.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Yeah. And then they had Alex's dad go in and
he's just mute now because of his stroke. They said
that he had.

Speaker 5 (39:57):
She said, oh, he had a stroke, that's why he
can't talk, when really he was just like hypnotized, possessed whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Witchcraft she was throwing on him under her control. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
His his job every day was when Alex came home
from school, he was to open the door and shut
the door.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
That was his job. Kind of sucks it out. It
was one thing having to feed his parents, but the
fact that he had to feed soup to all seventeen
of those kids, Yeah, it's tough. Couldn't help a little bit, Gladys,
you're the one benefiting from this asshole, right. Unbelievable. Not
only she she made him go shopping too. Yeah, like
as a kid, did you give him money? I assume
she'd give him money probably. Also I mentioned this in

(40:39):
the car, but you know, technically, because you need to
get the belongings of somebody for this the witchcraft thing
to work. And Alex takes all the postcards off of
their bins in the classroom, wouldn't those technically belong to Justine?

Speaker 5 (40:55):
I mean, the the kids colored them, the kids personalize
them with the I guess they touched him more, they
drew on him, put their personality in it. So I
guess that's that means it's theirs. Maybe they got to
take him home at the end of the year, so
technically it's there theirs. I sure I would have loved
to see like a fun little of every like the

(41:19):
little squishball always. I thought that because that makes way
more sense to me. Because he was looking at the
racers and the pencils and things like that. I was like, yeah,
that makes a lot of sense to me, grabbing the
fucking bin cards. And then she didn't notice He's standing
right next to him with his hand in his backpack.
Those bins didn't have any note cards on him, like
they have all the year, every day, and she did

(41:41):
not catch it.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah. See, those are the things that bother me. What
the hell not the witchcraft?

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
The other thing that I the most confusing part of
the whole movie, The one thing I this is actually frustrating.
Like the other stuff we're kind of joking about, Okay, yes,
but this is the one thing I'm like, why was
that there? When Archer has his dream seat quins and
he's following his son and whatnot, he goes out in
front of his house or else, I don't remember what
house it was, but his house is above his house

(42:10):
is an assault rifle. I think it was like an
M sixteen or something. I don't remember. I was so
distracted by how stupid the concept was just this big
three D M sixteen above the house, and then on
the barrel of the gun or on the grip by
the barrel of the gun, was the just two seventeen
on it. I no idea why he saw that or
what they were trying to say that that had to

(42:33):
been just for us. It had to be.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
It couldn't have been for Archer. It had to be
for us, just to be like, someone is using these
kids and people as weapons, but we don't know that yet.
So it's like, Okay, these kids are going to be
used as weapons, but you didn't. We don't need We didn't.
We didn't need that.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
Yeah, I thought it was stupid. I really don't understand.
I thought it was an alien spaceship. Honest. Yes, I
literally when it when it first was showing on the screen, like,
that's a this is aliens. They have been they have
been taken by a stat the point or is it
so we go only shit, it's aliens a gun?

Speaker 2 (43:11):
What?

Speaker 1 (43:12):
I don't know it? Yeah, I don't think you could
ever give me a satisfying answer on why. There There
were some undertones originally that it felt there was like
some school shooting vibes, like they were trying to be
a little relevant to that.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Yeah, they were like Grill and Alex like why did
all your classmates not.

Speaker 1 (43:28):
Come to school? What did you do? What did your
teacher do. Yeah, there was a little bit of undertones
of that for a while, and I thought, that's maybe
that's why they're leading into the gun for a second.
If that's the case, I still don't buy it. It
was just weird to me. Yeah, nitpicking at this point,
but yeah, that was not that was not necessary. That

(43:48):
was weird. Yeah, and then there's there was this big
emphasis on two seventeen the whole movie, and maybe there
is some sort of answer to that of why two
seventeen was relevant, But really it just seems like like
that is the time that Gladys did it. Did it,
she was working on it, she was ripping up the papers,
and then she just happened to light the fire at
two seventeen. Yeah, that's so it's really not relevant. It

(44:13):
just happens to be when she did the spell or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
I don't know if that's like a like a Blair
witch trial reference or something like that.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
It could be. I would assume that it's it's referencing something.
I'm sure, and I just don't. I'm ignorant and I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
What it is.

Speaker 5 (44:31):
But I'm gonna need screen Rant to write a big
article about it. Explaining everything.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I saw somebody post a picture of their local movie
theater and the screen times for Weapons today, and one
of them was two seventeen. That's crazy. I think that's
a coincidence. That's awesome. That's fun.

Speaker 5 (44:47):
Also, the movie came out on August seventh, Yeah, which
was the anniversary of Trevor from The Whitest Kid.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
You know, dying. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:55):
I don't know if that was a coincidence. Like, I
don't think the director of a movie could really be
like this is when we're released.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah. I think that was a coincidence, a big coincidence,
but yeah, maybe sad. Yeah, yeah, I think that was
all my main talking points. The big thing I wanted
to rant about I don't remember did Yeah. The big
thing was that that gun. I knew that because oh

(45:28):
last thing this is this is not a script problem.
I think it makes sense. Then cops are stupid sometimes.
But Paul when he is uh searching James and he
asked him, He's like, do you have anything sharp in
your pockets that's gonna yeah, that's gonna poke me. And
then he's like, no, no, I swear I've got nothing
in that pockets and he reaches into his pockets and
gets poked by the syringe. I wanted to punch him
in the fucking face, Like, why didn't you tap the

(45:50):
outside of his pockets first and feel you would know
immediately that there was a syringe in there. Yep, you're
the dumb ass pat him down in the outside first.
You're not reaching to the man's pocket until you know
for sure whether or not something is in there, and
then you can perceive a caution if you know something
in his pocket, right, dumb ass. God, that's how HIV spreads. Folks,
Be smart, Yeah, wear a condom.

Speaker 5 (46:13):
He definitely got something because that he got stabbed with
three needles right below his eye.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Later on, it's interesting that they have the hole him
getting poked and then he gets stabbed in the face.
And then there's like he talks about AIDS and having
AIDS and he's like, do you have hepatitis anything like that?
And he's like, no, not that I know of. And
that's the end of it. Why was there such a
weird emphasis on that I was waiting I get I
Actually no, I know the answer. The answer is the
beef between them and him chasing him off well and

(46:40):
not going to like that sets up him going after
James and James not going to the police station, and
him bringing Paul to the house. I get what it does,
but yeah, we don't really ever circle back to it.

Speaker 5 (46:53):
No, And I'm like, okay, I gotta watch when he died.
I'm like, oh, he died. He didn't die via syringe,
didn't die via ironic way involving spreading diseases or whatever. No,
he just he just died.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
I appreciate the somewhat accurate exit wound of the bullet
in Paul's head. Yeah, because uh, a lot of movies
fucked that up, because the exit wound will yeah gnarly
like that. The the the effects, the gore effects were
were beautiful. We had let me look into that. Right now.

Speaker 5 (47:27):
We had Wong who head budded his partner, his husband
or partner until his head was caved in. And then uh,
I say, you know from uh doctor Strange. His name
is Mark Mars and then Marcus gets hit by a
car and his head is like completely smashed in.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
So Jason Collins, special makeup effects designer, autonomous effects. Oh,
autonomous effects. So there you go, very nice. Yeah, what
is he? What else is he? Done. Well, let's look.
Let's see. Let's look Amsterdam and the Hunger Games, Maize,
Runner Atlas, The Apprentice.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
American Horror Story Episodes Reed, grade three. Don't worry Darling, Okay.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
I think I followed them on Instagram. American Horror Story
Yellow Jackets, Yellow jack Dude, there's some good good effects
in there, Yellow Jackets.

Speaker 4 (48:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
What they got up coming at the bottom down here?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Uh sinis or two. I saw, oh, keep going, Parks
of Rack, Canna, Montana.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I saw upcoming Black Antenna and Magpie. Yeah. By the way.
On the topic of Marcus and his husband, who's aim,
I don't remember? Uh do them? Just making out a
whole train of hot dogs and sitting down and watching

(49:02):
the movie and just sitting there and throwing back hot
dogs is the best thing I've ever seen. That is
the life I want to live for real. There was
like six hot dogs for those two I think it
was eight, and there was carrots and ranch too. Yeah,
they only put mustard on the hot dogs, dude, it's gross.
Technically you're not You're not supposed to put ketchup on them.

(49:22):
It's just mustard. Well says that Chicago every chicgo dogs suck.
No hot do. I feel like ketchup is the I
don't like ketchup either. I'm a plain dog guy. I
hate myself. Everybody else it's cheese dog or chili dog.
Fuck what chili dogs do? But I don't. I hate mustard.
Hate to be that guy. Not a mustard guy, not
a ketchup guy. I really don't like sauceage in general.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council considers ketchup on
hot dogs a condiment for children and a faux pa
for adults.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
That's just disrespectful.

Speaker 5 (49:53):
It's immature, and camouflage is the all be flavor. So
others suggested to sugary and adults should prefer salting meals
with vinegary, mustard, sour crowd, or chili. You say it
camouflages the beef flavor. So in other words, eating it
plain is the best answer. And I'm the adult here.
Oh no, you need to put vinegary, mustard, sour crowd,
or chili on it. How can those are strong flavored things?
How can those not camouflage bee flavor? How is ketchup

(50:16):
not doing that? Because it's immature. That's so dumb, because
it's to sugary, sweet and savory. This, The New York
Post says, never ever put ketchup on hot dogs. Experts say,
but sweet and savory.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
I can't do it.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Hot dog etiquette from hot Dash doog dot org got
the hot dog and sausage.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
There's a YouTube video. Wow, it's a lot of dos
and don't. That's unbelievable. I'm all right, I'm good. Uh
my plain dogs, dude, I do I do like ketchup
on like everything. I don't like ketchup. I wish I did.
I could be in the cool kids club.

Speaker 5 (51:06):
I'm not the biggest mustard fan, but if I have
like mustard and ketchup, that's fine.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Everybody always gives me shit for like not liking sauces
and condiments like that. Like I throwin mustard, ketchup, mayonnaise. Nothing.
I don't like slimy things on my food. Okay, and
do you think I like that? Why are you making
fun of me? You think I want this? I would
happily be able to. I wish I could. I wish
I could enjoy those things. Just deep throat the hot dog. Yes,

(51:35):
I also hate ranch. Yeah, that's so sad. I don't.
I don't what to do about it. It's God, it's
one of the things that's made dieting a little bit easier.
Guys just seasoning my chicken.

Speaker 5 (51:50):
No, I need to dip something in something almost at
all times.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
I wish I could be that guy. I like quest
like cheese, dip cheese, like cheese dip cheese. Isn't it
count as a condiment? It can be used as a condiment.
It's not a condiment like cheese. It's a mold. It's okay.

Speaker 5 (52:17):
So it's up to a ninety seven percent from the critics,
and it's sitting at a ninety okay the audience, and
at eight point zher is that refreshed refreshing?

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (52:30):
IMDb eight point oh out of ten.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
I would give it a seven and a half out
of ten. So three point seventy five out of five
if you would. I think I feel good there. I
feel alright there. Yeah, I maybe an eight. That feels high.
Eight's fucking high.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Man.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
I love the movie. It is good.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
I really really did. Like seriously, until the climax, I'm like,
is this like the best horrorror film I've ever seen?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I take it easy, dead ass take it easy. I
don't think I preferred over Barbarian, to be honest, I do.
I think Barbarian God, the opening is so good and
that I just think I think Barbarian is more of
a horror film. Yeah, so maybe that's why although there
are some moments and weapons, I saw people saying it's

(53:22):
not scary. You're like, all right, listen, not every horror everything,
not everything labeled horror needs to be the scariest thing
you've ever seen. Right, there are many many subgenres of horror,
So take it easy. Okay, it's definitely still a horror film.
But there were some moments where they had very good suspense.
I know you were saying that the scare in the
basement was probably the most effective. Yep, with the Barbarian

(53:44):
in the basement should look like the Barbarian. Yeah, and
then not the mother, oh the mother of from Barbarian.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah yeah, yes, but the ant and weapons, the ant
look like the mother in Barbarian.

Speaker 1 (53:58):
And I think Brendan's said the scare in the bed
with during Archer's dream got him. I thought the most
effective one. I think the one I like the most
was with Justine's dream because I really love the build
up to it, where they do this really cool slide
behind Justine's head and reveal the hallway and then they
come back with her. There's a lot of really great

(54:20):
steady can work in this, by the way, that was
something I was noticing throughout too. Yes, but yeah. Then
she lays back in bed and gladyses up on the ceiling.
I think it was supposed to be Gladice up on
the ceiling and screaming, and I thought that was a
good one too. I like that. Yeah, they at the
whole time, I'm like, ooh, a clown, Ooh, a clown. Yeah,
because she's wearing so much makeup and she looks old. Yeah,

(54:41):
she's got that sloppy lipstick going on. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (54:46):
I gave this movie a four and a half out
of five.

Speaker 1 (54:49):
Nine out of ten. That's crazy work. I as of
right now, I'm sticking by it. I think eight is
you seven and a half eight somewhere in there. I
feel good about because it was definitely good and at
the very least, I could say that Zach Kreiger has
a bright future in this genre, and I hope he
sticks with it and keeps doing this type of stuff. Yes,

(55:12):
it's a twenty four style horror. It's not an a
twenty four film, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (55:16):
No?

Speaker 1 (55:17):
Who is it? Of course it's harder to see on
the freaking poster.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
It is.

Speaker 1 (55:28):
New Line Cinema Vertigo. Oh yeah. That was the first
time I've seen a New Line opening animation in theaters
in so many years. While I was I actually was
caught off guards like, oh, yeah, this is a New
Line movie. Oh here, IMDb's asking me. There, I gave
a Nate. You gotta sign in. Oh well, they caught
me slipping. I guess I'm not. I tried to give
a Nate.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5 (55:54):
It's definitely one of my favorites, like as far as
like this year when it comes to uh enjoyment and
rewatchability and.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Well that's a question, is it? Is it very rewatchable?
I said no to Barbarian So maybe I'm wrong with
this one because I'm not so sure. I think that
was the only thing. I think it's a little long.
It's two hours and eight minutes, and I was especially
as the climax and the way there was a there
was a time there and maybe it was after the
whole finding the kids thing. I just wasn't as interested,

(56:24):
felt like it was dragging a little bit until we
got to the climax. I don't agree that I someone
with adhd two hour movie it's scary. I don't. Yeah,
I don't. I'm more of a ninety minutes guy.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
But but I felt it was it was not very
long or not that long at all.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
I wasn't I wasn't bored or anything. I just there
was a time when I felt I noticed the run time.
It's like this thing is really going as we're still going.

Speaker 5 (56:48):
As of right now. I have I Know what you
last Summer at number one, and Hard Eyes at number two.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Oh so this is under those, huh. I have Weapons at.

Speaker 5 (56:57):
Three, above Final Destination of the Monkey. I really enjoyed Locked.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
It's above Lock. It's definitely above all three of those
for sure.

Speaker 5 (57:05):
Companion until down and then we go down. Sinners I
have at six. By the way, I have it below
the Monkey for personal enjoyment. It is rate rated higher
than the Monkey for me, but for as far as
like my ranking of horror movies that came out this year,
Sinners is at six, then Monkey, Final Destination, Weapons, Hard Eyes.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
I know Brendan hated Hard Eyes, by the way, so
what brendick out of our I know, right, That's why
I sound like that seems like a movie for you, brother, Absolutely,
I don't know. He's his favorite movie, like ever is
like Hereditary, So he's into the dark, original horror.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
So he just hates Love. He hates Mason Gooding.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
How could you? Well, I think he doesn't have the
same appreciation for Mason that we do, and I think
that is a very important part of enjoying that movie.

Speaker 5 (57:51):
So uh yeah, Also you're sim for Mason Christopher Landon
as well.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Right, right, so anything Christopher land In. Yeah, No, I
really enjoyed this movie. I do. I do think confidently.
I think this is the best warm movie it's come
out this year. I do think Weapons is the best
warming it's come out. Here's the thing.

Speaker 5 (58:12):
I may not rank Cinners as high, but I definitely
am like, I think it's at a ninety seven percent
as well. Yeah, I'm like, it is damn good for sure.
But Weapons for me, little dog cameo right at the end.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
It almost made it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:30):
No, Weapons is definitely definitely the best horror movie that
came out this year.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Yeah, just on like pure quality, I think so. I
mean The Sinners is in the weird sub genre where
it's because it's also one of those where it's horror,
but it's like no r.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
Yeah yeah yeah, western almost Western. It's kind of western
feel to it.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Just I don't know. I think just in terms of
like just quality, not even like personal preferences, like we're
judging the film for what it is. I think Weapons
is probably is the best horror of it's come out
this year. Yes, yes, Zach, you did it, you did
it again. I just I'm ready for the next one. Brother,
and I also hilarious that Jordan's Peel's team turned this
movie down. Hilarious. They shared it's a it's a Jordan

(59:19):
Peele style script for sure. It's something that he totally
would have done a good job with. I'm I'm glad
Zach got it because I want to. This is only
his second film and it's going to keep opening the
door for him to do more. So I'm glad that
he got it, But Jordan Peele could have totally kicked
ass with the script as well. Well. Hopefully him is
goaded as well. Yeah yeah, him's got those super weird

(59:39):
vibes too. Yeah, that's next month, right, September twelfth. Yes,
I think.

Speaker 5 (59:43):
Do you know what Zach Kreiger's upcoming confirmed projects are. No,
there's only one that's Resident Evil.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Oh, that's right, that's it.

Speaker 5 (59:52):
That's all we got confirmed.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
So I actually I hate that he's doing Resident Evil,
and not because like because I want to see it's something.
I don't want to see another Residuevil film, like I
want to see that done, right, I want to see
Zach Kreiger original Yeah, right, exactly. I don't want him
to be on the ip leash. Let him keep, let
him keep cooking. Yeah, but maybe he can finally fix

(01:00:15):
that that IP because I don't understand how they can't
make a good on screen adaptation of Residonu Evil. It
blows my mind. Maybe Zach can do it. Is he
writing it? I don't know. Oh, that would be the
deciding factory. So he's a big RI four fan. Yeah,
so he is writing and directing it. He's been very

(01:00:38):
transparent about how like, okay, it's it is, Resident Evil,
but I'm not going to restrict myself based on the
story of the games and how the games play out.
He's like, I'm going to make a good movie first
and incorporate the IP how I can. And maybe that's
a good thing. Maybe that's what the formula needs for

(01:00:58):
Resident Evil this time around. Yeah, I mean they they
they never have committed to the story of the films
or of the games. Like that's why they keep fumbling.
So part of me is like we is. I don't know.
I don't like when movie adaptations are just copy and
paste of the game. Yeah, just play the game the
very cinematic experiences as it is. So that's why I

(01:01:21):
especially thought that about Until Dawn. I'm like, that is
a movie, brother, Like, you want to watch a movie,
you can go on YouTube right now and watch cut
scenes only Yep. The other dog gotta get a cameo
in too. She's laying down here. She just loves you
so much. I wish she's been licking me for hours.

(01:01:42):
Very good, very good film.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Well, I don't I don't know if I've just been
watching really good cinema lately. And that's why I'm like,
holy shit, everything I'm seeing is the greatest cinema right now,
the cinema. But but like, yeah, I'll be talking about
weapons for a while, a long while.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, I don't know what our next episode of the
our next review will be. We gotta go see Freak
Your Friday. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
I want to talks have Seen together. I just don't
know if that's gonna happen until it's on vod Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
What otherwise, what's the next thing in theaters that we like?
Have to go see Toy Story? Well, I am going
to see Toy Story. My wife already said so because
my son loves Toy Story. That'd be the first movie
he sees in theaters. How about that Last Rites I
think is probably next in the list? Uh, that is
the end of this month.

Speaker 5 (01:02:36):
I don't have If I had a list up, i'd
be reading it, but I don't. It's fine, we'll figure
that out. Watch Slash Society Summit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
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