036 - Managing Your Space

Derek "Cleaning" Young and Darren "Sorting" Moser talk how they approach managing their workspace. When is it time to get rid of a piece of equipment and when do you have to start over?

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to the nerd Party. Welcomeback to Maker's Method, a weekly conversation
about what it is to be amaker here on the nerd Party Network.
I'm your host, Derek young manosprompt and I'm joined up by a fellowmaker,

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cause player, puppeteer and my buddyDarren Moser, who some of you
may know as doctor sci Fi.So this week, I want to talk
about something that is a secret shame, no, something that's been on my

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mind since late last week because Ihave been given an opportunity to add a
piece of a equipment to my shopspace, which means that I need to
manage my shop space more efficiently,and so I wanted to kind of get

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your your take on how you manageyour space, because I know you're in
kind of a time of transition withhow you're using your space because you've got
K two s completely disassembled and areworking under the enormous gravity of con crunch

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for Star Wars celebration. But yeah, I I am admittedly a workspace goldfish.
And I use this term because goldfishexplain that goldfish will grow to the

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amount of space they are given generally, okay, and that is absolutely how
I am in the spaces that Ioccupy for making. So whether it's my
tiny bedroom office that houses my threeD printers and my computer and my vinyl

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cutter, or it's the two thirdsof my garage that is my shop space.
I have. It's almost horder levelpacked in with tools and projects and
supplies. And I was recently givenan opportunity to add a C and C

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machine to my shop space. Andwhile that's very exciting and I'm I can't
wait to put it together and startusing it, I don't know where it's
going to live because everything is likeit's just packed to the gills pun intended.

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I just I got to figure outhow to better manage my space.
Now. I know that the peoplethat are listening to this podcast can't see
your workspace I have visited. Iknow right now is not the best example

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of what it normally looks like.The last time I saw it, it
was very tidy, and I wasbecause I was expecting companies, Yes,
there we go, secrets out.I was very jealous of how sort of
organized and how you seem to knowexactly where everything was, which is typically

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not the case for me. I'ma little where did I put that I
think it might be here? DoI still have it? Do I need
to buy another one? Oops?I bought the other one. Now I
found the one that I thought Ididn't have, etc. I mean,
I will coves. I lost myneedle loosed pliers for like a week,
so I have found them. Sothey've returned to their where they're supposed to

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be spot. But yeah, whenwe first moved to this house about four
years ago, we decided that wewere going to turn the garage, which
is like a twenty by twenty room, into kind of a bonus room office
workspace. And I was kind ofthe deal. So I had a lot
of space to work in and havefun and none of the stuff went inside

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the house. So that was thearrangement with my wife. And yeah,
I kind of mocked it up inPhotoshop, kind of a rough layout of
how I wanted to do it,and it has definitely changed and evolved over
the years. I've always wanted,you know, the paneled desk, star
wall kind of pantry area, andfor the longest time that was just the

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shelves, and I knew I eventuallyI'd get to making the facade fronts and
you know then that led to otherprojects and fun things. But yeah,
it's so my Goldfish has grown toa twenty by twenty room, But that
doesn't necessarily mean I feel like Ihave more space at times. Well,
look, I can see the floor, that is true, and you know,

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between things that I'm printing and boxesof filament and etc. Etc.
There's there's definitely some times where it'sprecarious in at least in my little office
space, which is ten by tenand okay, and a big chunk of
it is taken up by a deskwith two printers on it. Yeah.

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When I got my glow forge,which I have, um, I had
built like a shelving unit into thewall or against one of the walls,
and so I ended up putting aheader board above it so that it would
support the piece that I removed tofit. Because I mean, guys,
go Forward is huge. It's reallyreally big. It's bigger than you think.

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Yeah, I don't remember the exactdimensions, but it is probably at
least three feet wide. Yes,it is very big. So yeah,
finding a space for that, andI'm actually looking at probably downsizing and removing
some of my tools, primarily myM two router or C and sea machine

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which has a router in it,and that is basically a ten foot by
four foot by six foot cart thatruns the vertical C and C. And
I just don't use it really asmuch as I thought. I thought i'd
be doing a lot more woodworking.I really like the idea. I still
think it's a great machine. Istill think it is a great bang for

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your buck for the size of whatyou can process for at thousand dollars C
and C. But it's starting toget to the point where I would like
the square footage back. And Ieven have a really nice table saw that's
a craftsman and you know, solidmetal and all of that, and even
that where I feel like I don'treally use it and might need to pass
that along to someone else to regainthe space. But yeah, it's you

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know, I kind of joked earlierthat the definition of a clean space is
how much flat surface area is exposed, because we can have all our tools,
but you know, once I feelthe pinch when I run out of
flat surface area and I'm there,I have probably like four, well,
counting my computer desk, I havefive like flat work areas, and I

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am constantly in the working out ofthe six inches from the edge mode.
You know what I'm talking about?Oh yeah, I live so then yeah
on the edge and so yeah,it's time to prioritize and put some things
away to just have a better layout. This, I mean, the same
thing happened when I was working onBD one. I had everything on one

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table and it was a point whereI feel like I'm going to accidentally break
something a three D printed part orsomething when I put it down, and
so I just cleared everything off andthen gnolled and laid out all his parts
kind of in an exploded view,just to know like what had I printed,
what had I not printed? Howare things coming together? And nothing
was getting crushed by another piece,So I'm just about there. That's actually

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probably what I'll do the rest oftonight. It's just clean up the space.
But so, yes, that that'swhat I referred to in the very
beginning of my Secret Shame, isthat there's there's no vertical space left.
Yeah, it's it's tough because Ithink the hobby of prop making or costuming

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or or even woodworking, honestly,like any maker hobby, there's a certain
amount of infrastructure that goes into it. But also like a lot of us
are trying to squeeze in a littlebit of time every day to do this

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kind of stuff, and cleaning upis often not at the top of the
list of things, at least forme, that I want to do.
Yeah, and it doesn't feel productivefor some reason, yet it is.
It's very productive. Yeah. Well, it's one of those things that you
know, future you will appreciate thatpresent you has taken the time to put

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the needle nose pliers back in thedrawer because you know, admittedly I've spent
five to ten minutes looking for measuringtape or an exact on knife, or
like just dumb inconsequential things that allwould typically have a place to live that

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they should go back to that locationwhen they're not being in use. But
there's just those times when you're likein that zone and you're working and stopping
to do some of that tidying upjust feel so counterproductive. Yeah, I
don't know, there's part of methat's like I blame all of these companies

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for making cool products that I wantto buy, right, you know,
like do I need two three Dprinters? No? Do I like having
two three D printers print twice asfast. You bet, I do,
you know, And particularly like rightnow I'm in the middle of a large

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project for Answer, and I'm alsoworking on my Star Wars celebration costume,
and both of those things I kindof need to run in parallel, mainly
because a anything that I do,I have to do stuff that's going to
be content generating. So I'm alwaysthinking about, you know, I got

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to make x number of videos everymonth, or I need, you know,
to create a backlog in case Ineed to go on vacation or something
gets in the way, etc.But you know, to try and do
all this stuff with one machine wouldjust be it would throw everything into chaos,

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which is hilarious considering we're kind oftalking about my shop chaos, so
you'd think I'd be used to it. Chaos is already here, we're just
giving it a different form exactly well, And I would say, you know,
the one thing that I feel thatI do fairly well is knowing where
my tools are, Like I've putenough you know, things on the One

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of the first things I did actuallywhen I moved into this space was I
did a fresh cleat corner. Sothat allowed me to kind of reconfigure the
space and use it as I needed. And so I have a lot of
you know, little mini dividers,and it's really easy to go to Harbor
Freight or someplace and just get thoselittle bins to store things. And yeah,

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it's but there's also been times,yeah, where it's like I have
like two full book you know shelvesback here that have nice little bins,
and I know half of that stuffI haven't touched in like five years,
and I could probably throw away andreclaim that space, but it just takes
that time, yea. So it'syeah, and then but eventually, then

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you hit that point where you're workingoff of the six inches from the edge
of the table and you're like,uh, well and you and it'll it's
like it's like waves on the shore, like it'll recede, and then it'll
come back and it'll recede. SoI'll clean my desk and it's great,
and then within a couple of weeksit's back to those six inches. Yeah.

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I find for me usually what createsthe necessity is if I'm working on
something that I know there's a highlikelihood that and usually this is like mold
making or resin casting, where Ijust know that anything within a two foot

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range is like in the blast zone. You might get a bit of silicone
on something, You're definitely going toget a bit of resin on something,
or like any of the extra stuffthat goes along with it. Like I
notoriously get resin pigments all over theplace for some reason. I I'd like
to say that it's the design ofthe bottle, but I really don't think

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it is. I think it's me. And that is usually the thing where
I'm like, all right, letme, let me get some things out
of the way. But generally speaking, I will like I will live in
that little six inch space. It'sthe dumbest thing that I do, but
I do it all the time.Like as we're speaking, I have like,

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let's see, three coffee mugs,a glass, a soda can,
and this is just from today.Like I don't even know why I have
bolts. I have three design notebooks. I have my iPhone charger, some
elastic two rulers, a tape measure, and a box of pop tarts.

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So it's like, yeah, it'slike, I mean, my keyboard and
mouse are right here. You know, they kind of have to be right,
so they don't. That's the onlyreason they don't have anything on top
of them. But yeah, it'sone of those weird things too. And
I find this to kind of bean issue specifically with my small office space.

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Is that because I had had allthese grand ideas about making this whole
room haunted mansion themed, right,I never looked at it from a utility
standpoint. So everything that I havein here that is for working, whether
it's like my vinyl cutter or alabel printer or whatever, like, they're

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all kind of on one surface.Yeah, rather than going tall, doing
something vertical so that I can takesome of these smaller objects that I'm not
using all the time and put themaway where they're at least within arm's reach,
but would clear up a lot ofspace in front of me. Yeah,

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I have that same feeling because myspace is my office space as well
as workspace, so I have youknow, lego and pictures and like again,
like these dusktar walls, they lookgreat, but it's a flat surface
that I don't have anything on.I don't have anything hanging on it.
I don't have anything in that areaso I really wish eventually it would be

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great to have like a small officeinside the house that could be the computer,
the printers, things that are youknow, dust free and run in
there. You know, that's wherethe lego could be displayed and the finished
pieces and whatnot. And then thisis literally just the workspace. But instead
we get a layer of dust oneverything. So that's just how it goes.

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Yeah, Well, and honestly,I'm kind of used to it,
just because we get the Santa Anawinds here all the time, so everything's
always a little dust a bit.Yeah, it's a challenge, it's it's
really difficult, and well, youknow, it's of the whole. Like

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I don't know, there's that wholetalk about you know, if your work
area is cluttered, it means yourbrain is cluttered or anything that. I
don't know if that's necessarily true,because I don't feel bothered by the fact
that stuff is everywhere. Again,it kind of goes in cycles. It
goes in cycles for me for theentire house. The entire house will eventually
reach a tipping point where I'm like, Okay, tomorrow's cleaning day because I

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have to pull it back from theedge and deep clean and everything is nice.
And that is just the way Ifunction is not so much the clean
as you go. It's clean whenit reaches critical mass, and then you're
granted a clean space for another coupleof weeks, and then you do it
all over again, and that's fine. Both ways work just fine. Yeah.

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Yeah, And to be clear,this isn't like a complaint about the
fact that I'm like fortunate enough tobe in the position where I do have
the tools and things that I havein order to run my business and to
make videos and to enjoy this hobby. But at a certain point, I

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feel like I and like this isjust right around the corner. I really
am going to need to take astep back and really assess the situation because
bringing a large machine it's the biggestthing that I'll have in my shop space.
Yeah, you know, not thatit's huge. Where thinking of putting

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it? I mean, I knowyou're still thinking about it, but do
you have any ideas or well?I think what makes the most sense is
and I wish I could do this, but I don't have the wall space
to do it. I'd love tolike hang it vertically, but I can't
because I just the way that myshop is laid out, it's just not

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practical, right, So what I'vebeen thinking about doing is making sort of
a FlipTop rolling cart where I canstore it vertically. Okay, pull it
out of the garage space, flipit up out and sort of like on
the driveway area, and run itand then that way. You know,

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particularly we're talking about something that's likefour feet square, right, like four
ft by four feet whereabouts. Okay, Yeah, because I imagine that a
lot of the stuff I'll be runningon it will be foam. I feel
a lot better about doing it outsidethan I do doing it in the garage

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space because I also have like that'swhere our washer and dryer are, right
and I it's bad enough that Ido like sanding and whatnot in there.
It's sectioned off. But that's notI know, it's not stopping it.
It's just making it a bit morechallenging. And yeah, this just feels

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like asking too much for this thesetup that I currently have in there.
Yeah, I think of like twooptions. One, I've seen someone who
has a two four foot by fourfoot C and C and they have theirs
on a big board with a hingeon it and kind of like you're talking

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about, they basically have it whereit can tip up towards the wall.
Not fully ninety but like maybe seventyfive enough to kind of get it out
of the way right when they're notusing it. But my other thought was
to embrace it as far as there'sthere's um, there's a maximum height above

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a C and C that will neverbe collided with. You know, you
have your gantry, you have yourwhatever. So another would be to go
low and you know, put iton a on a board, like a
supported board, and basically build likea work table over it where you know,
again your material is only going tobe so thick and your gantry is

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only so high and it's never goingto go higher than that. So then
you could have a four foot byfour foot worktop that's above it, and
now you have a machine that isnot you're not losing any vertical space because
you built that on top. Nowyou still have to have that somewhere in

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your space, you know, onthe floor, but you know, so
it's like go low instead of gohigh. But right, that's a good
point because I one of the firstthings that I did when when I was
setting up my shop space was Imade myself a big work table. I
feel like it's a rite of passageum and right now it currently holds a

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small resin printer and a minor saw. There's a lower shelf which basically just
has junk. It's you know,clamps and bins with random hardware in it
and all sorts of stuff like it'sthe garage equivalent of like the junk drawer

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in the kitchen. Yes, Ithink many of us could admit that at
times our entire workspace feels like thejunk drawer. I know mine does,
and I know that I'm the onethat's doing it, so it's like I
can't even complain about it. Butit almost makes me wonder maybe if I

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move Well now, I guess Ican't do that with the resin printer because
I need to be able to takethe top off of it. I was
going to say, put the resinprinter on the lower shelf, which would
then free up the upper portion ofthe workbench to hold the scene SA machine
next to the chop saw, butI don't know. I'll have to think
about it. The biggest takeaway fromall this for me, right now is

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that there's going to be a reckoningin my future where, you know,
because we also store like all theHalloween decorations and all that stuff, and
for the most part, it's allup in the rafters and it's not anywhere
near the ground, so I'm notcompeting with like tombstones and all that nonsense.

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But we do have two big fakebrick pillars that go out in the
front of the house, and thosedo take up a considerable amount of floor
space. Can I always put themoutside get a little natural weathering? I
would if they were real, butbecause their foam and would it would just
die? They yeah, they justfall apart, So you know, they

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take up space. And I've kindof come to terms with that. But
you know, I've got like arolling cart that I thought was going to
be super useful because I do liketo sort of work out side of the
garage space on the driveway when theweather's nice, but it ended up just
becoming another flat surface to put junkon. So you know, if I

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can move that out, then Imight pick up some extra space. But
you know, all of this isto say that I'm basically going to have
to take everything out. You haveto kind of start over and start over
sort of and reassess because you know, there's definitely so you've got a new
biggest object. That's the key,right. So now you have a new
thing that is bigger than anything else, it has to be placed first,

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which means you have to basically goback to the studs. I mean not
literally but kind of. Yeah,you know, there's I have two big
shelving units which are not being reallythat space isn't being maximized. There's you
know, bits of things on it, and it is what it is.

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And then I've got the you know, big massive columns that take up a
bunch of space. But then I'vealso got like our Christmas tree and like
random gardening tools and things like thatthat are all they take up space.
You know, it's just like randomthings to take up space that you're going
to want to be able to getto easily, even if you're not using

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them all the time. And soyou know, those things are going to
kind of come into play, andyeah, I'm not looking forward to it.
But at the same time, thereis something to be said about taking
stock and what you've got, yeah, and discarding or rehoming things that you

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know you just are never going touse and kind of coming to terms with
the fact that, like, ifyou do get rid of something and you
find a month from now that youneed that thing again, you know what,
Look, you've got however much timethat you had that thing for his
worth of knowledge about that tool orthat object or whatever, go buy yourself

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the one that's actually going to fitthe specific need, because Lord knows,
I've gone out and bought things thatwere like, oh, this will work
for this really super specific task,only to realize that had I paid a
dollar or two more, I couldhave gotten the thing that was more useful.
Across the board. Yeah, well, and sometimes it means investing in

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your shop. It means that workbenchyou built that served you well well,
Getting rid of that and buying twosmaller pre made rolling cards that fill that
space but are way more flexible isbetter. And I think I think of
I visited my father in law todayand he loves doing word working as he's

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retired, but he just has hisgarage and it has a car in it
all the time, and so thebalance they've worked out is pretty much everything
is mobile. So he pulls outhe is dust collecture and he's got a
joiner and a table saw and aplaner and all of these things, but
it's like five or six little cartsthat all, you know, a mixed

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match and whatever, and he justcomes out into the driveway and has his
space and he's worked it out withhis wife that when he's working out a
project for a couple of days,the garage is kind of in that pseudo
space for a while. The car'soutside for a little bit, but you
know, he's not always woodworking,so that's when it's that time. It's
that time. But then the restof the time it all compresses into half

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of the garage, and you knowthat can be hard for people who feel
like you know, I mean,oh man, you watch like New Yankee
Workshop or any of these shows,were like, oh, I need to
cut this two by four. Justwalk over to the two by four station
and boom boom cut it and you'redone. Yeah, but with limited space,
sometimes we can't live in that easyaccess, ready to go every station.

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We need flip top tables and thingswe pull out when we use it
or working on the floor, andthat's just how it goes. Yeah,
yeah, I know, like wetalked about in a previous episode about you
know, tools that we thought we'dget a lot of use out of and
things like that. It's also anothergood opportunity for me to kind of really

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make a judgment call, like amI using this tool? Yeah? That
is taking up this much space thatcould be used by something else. Yeah.
No, I think you're right.And yeah, I mean there's a
whole thing of just you know,organization and storage and all of that,
but you know, it finds abalance. Like I said, I think

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after this recording, my next taskis going to be to purge down,
or not purge, but clean offsome of the spaces because I have a
you know, workbench, and Iknow I'm going to be cutting big sheets
of foam and I need a large, flat, open area and I really
don't want to down the floor sonow. And sometimes, I mean,

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I have my new kind of patchshirt that I'm sewing up for celebration,
and I have it all lay down. It's nice, but I need to
kind of take a picture of it, fold it up and put it in
a box until I'm actually going tosit down and sew it because it's taking
up three, you know, ninesquare feet of surface area that I need

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for other things. And I havelike two of my work surfaces are just
tables from Walmart. You know,of an eight by two and a like
a six by two, And thoseare great because when you don't need them,
you pack them down and they slideaway and they take up almost no
room. But when you need abig flat surface for a project, you

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just pop it out and that's andyou know it. I wouldn't stand on
it. It's not that you know, structural, but sure it's enough to
hold anything except for like a drillpress. Yeah, having stuff like that
is particularly good, mainly because youknow, you get a couple of good
days of weather too. Oh yeah, I mean we're so spoiled like our

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I mean, it's been a littlerainy this last week, but I know
eventually I'm gonna have to paint inthe next month, and I know the
weather is probably gonna be amazing becauseit's southern California and we're gonna get seventy
eighty degree days and I'm like,hey, here's a painting day. And
I look, you know, it'sstill spring for the rest of the nation.
And they're like, yeah, Ican't paint for these last three months
because of the weather. And I'mlike, maybe that's why I haven't built

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a paint booth, because my outdoorpaint booth is the outdoors. It's nine
times out of ten, is readyto go. It's right, Yes,
it's the beauty of it all.You just throw the garage door open.
Done, yep. But so butyour project for celebration, so your costume

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that you're putting together, your kindof mismatch of Star Wars inspired stuff,
has that Have you moved onto thesewing step at all? Or are you
still in the three D printing phase? So I'm still in the three D
printing phase of it, although withinthe next week, let's say, I
should be done with all of theprinting, okay, which is great because

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it took a while to get tothis point because I just kept making rookie
mistakes and assumptions about symmetry and howthe human anatomy is not We're not a

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mirror image and you know myself particularly, and so the the greaves and shin
pieces for the armor had to beprinted like four times. I think I
printed them only four. That's notso bad to completion on all four,

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Oh, okay, um, notnot the shin guards, but at least
the the greaves portion of it.Only to find out that I was like,
ah, my right calf muscle isbigger than my left calf muscle.
These are not the same things.See, I would have I would have
like split it down the front andadded a piece of strip of foam on

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the front that could be weathered tolike just give it a little bit of
expansion. But again, it's allthe look you're going for. So that's
the thing about three D printing isit kind of needs to fit together or
it doesn't really work so well.And it's funny too, this particular armor.
Depending on who you get your armorfrom, whether you're doing ABS or

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you're doing three D printed or fiberglassor whatever, like, there's definitely some
different schools of thought about how tobest make these so that they are easy
to get in and out of.And so there's quite a few people who
split them down the front and theback, and because there's an added shin
piece, it hides the seam completelyso you never see it. But I

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also didn't want to split a threeD print and then have to deal with
the jagged infill and having to likefigure out sealing all of that. That's
true, all this sort of stuff, and I didn't really meant to be
cut how the other parts were goingto align if I started to modify things

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sort of in isolation. So yeah, I printed one left leg that was
too small, and then three rightlegs that were also too small, only
to realize that what I needed todo is to expand it. Expand the

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width, but not the depth orthe height to fit my calf muscles.
And then was able to figure out, okay, my right calf muscles,
the larger one left one is notthat far behind, so I can just
use the same files and mirror themmeasurement wise, And so those have all

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been printing as far as the sewingportion goes. I asked my Instagram followers
for some recommendations about local cause playfolks who are good with sewing machines,
and ended up being put in touchwith someone who, assuming their wonder con

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costuming goes, well, they're goingto offer me their services to make some
alterations to my pawn show. Andyou know, in return, I will
repay the favor at some point downthe road with a proper build or a
paint job or something like that forthem in return. So yeah, Maker

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community doing big things, lending ahand to people in need, and I'm
excited. It's, you know,like I'm finally I finally feel like I'm
starting to see enough progress after beatingmy head against a wall for a week
or two because my printers have basicallybeen running NonStop. I've got armor printing

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on one. And then the otherbig project I'm working on is it's a
gonk droid, life size gonk droidthat's a projector. Oh nice, And
so so what you're three D printingthe droid rather than doing the bin method.

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I'm three D printing its feet,okay, just because I don't want
to have to deal with all thoseweird angles. And yeah, it'd be
different if I had a table saw. I think it'd probably be easier to
do it that way. But alsoI found this three D model I think
on Thing a Verse, and Ireally liked the design. And if I

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can set my printer off and running, it frees me up to do other
things. And so yeah, Ihad a gonk for a little while.
I made it kind of like animperial gonk, and mine could break apart,
and I could I could even stilltake the two halves apart, flip
one inside out and nest it insideso it doesn't actually take up a lot

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of space. But eventually, youknow, I needed the space and it
was just a thing to stand andtake up space. So it's since been
retired. But yeah, this isjust sort of a fun thing. I
had a company reach out to me. They're bringing a new a new projector

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to market, and I thought theform factor was really interesting and that it
kind of lended itself to doing somethinga little fun. And I've wanted to
build a gonk for a while.I think they're funny looking, and I
pitched them on the idea and theyliked it, and so now I'm building

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there go And I think eventually whatwill probably happen is I'll probably sell it
or maybe do like a raffle anddo a donation to a charity or something
like that. With honestly, justtalk to anybody at celebration and see if
they want it. You will.You will find someone that weekend that will

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want that, like, yeah,for sure that's also local and can pick
it up, you know. ButI'm sure which is the most important part.
Yeah, I don't think it's goingto fit in someone's carry on as
they head back to their home,but no, afraid not. But yeah,
so you know, lots of printing. There's a ton of standing in

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my future. As we started recording, I realized I'm going to need to
place a big order for spray paints. Yeah. I ordered five cans of
plastic dip today. I'll get herewithin a week. And I had to
wait till today because I was returninga voice changer that didn't work with what

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I was expecting. So I waswaiting for that to refund to Amazon so
I could spend Amazon money because it'sgoing to be stuck in Amazon anyway,
so I might as well wait forit to spend. But yeah, I'm
I'm kind of getting to that pointwhere I'm I feel like I'm tracking the
things i have to do very well. That's been working with Trello and other

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things, but I need to startgiving myself progress kind of check in deadlines
because I've I'm worried that like aweek is going to go by and then
two weeks are going to go byand I'm going to be like I'm still
making progress, but have I beenmaking enough progress in those two weeks,

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so and that's hard when again,my trailerboard is like six different columns and
I'm constantly jumping between them. Soit's not as easy as finished bed.
It's like, well, bad's gotlots of things to do and work on.
So yeah, I guess milestones,That's what I meant to say.
So I want to have milestones oflike I want this done by this time

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and that way, If I'm hittingthose milestones, then we're doing good.
But and I have a one weekvacation coming up in a role that is
going to be a lot of timeinvested in working in the shop and getting
things done, and you should comeby. That would be fun one of
these days. If that works out, come we'll work on each other's projects

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and you can shoot a new locationfor your video. There we go.
But yeah, no, it's it'scoming along. I'm aculi aware of how
much time is left. But nowI think, well, I mean,
we've done it for the last threeepisodes. What is the actual number of
days we just passed sixty? We'realmost a fifty one two three four,

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We're fifty five days away as ofthis recording. Get on and and my
countdown is going to Yeah, that'sgoing to the Wednesday of so. But
I'm hoping that I'm not having todo any thing those days between Sunday and

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Tuesday, that I can actually justenjoy everybody coming into town and all of
that and not to be oh mygoodness, I need to paint well.
And I think it's tough too,because I think with restrictions kind of being

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lightened, there's a lot of peoplewho are really excited about seeing so many
friends and that there's a lot ofstuff that's going to be going on that
weekend. I'm already double bunch onseveral days, and that's just how it's
gonna go. Yeah, it's Ithink it's gonna be a little crazy,

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but it'll be fun. It will, it will, And I fortunately,
I think I only have two weekends, like two Saturdays, booked with things
between now and the end of May, so wow, I think I can
work around all the other other days. But as long as I'm doing something

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every night at least some even ifit's standing or modeling something or starting the
three D printer, every hour youspend is an hour that you didn't have
to spend in the future so itgets there. Yeah, oh cool,
it's probably a good place I needto wrap this up. Yeah yeah,
So clear off your vertical spaces asbest you can, and don't don't feel

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bad. We're all in the sameboat as as we can crunched together.
Amen to that. So, Darren, if if our listeners want to catch
up with your build or any ofthe other stuff that you've been doing,
where can they find you? Theycan go to doctor sci Fi dot com
Dr SciFi and all of my socials, which are Doctor sci Fi. I

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post a lot on Instagram in progress, and I've actually been shooting a little
one minute videos on TikTok that kindof breakdown the design process, kind of
in a chapter format for K two. So I'm going to try to keep
up with that as I kind ofreach points along the build. And that's
been fun. Hasn't really gone pasta couple hundred views, but that's all

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right because I'm making content that Iwould watch if I was a maker wanting
to see. So that's all see, And now you're giving me a reason
to have to go over to TikTok. Now, damn, there you go.
It's you know, there's something easyabout just have your phone out and
you're literally recording for a few minutesto make that one minute, a little

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clip at a time, and thenyou there you go. Yeah, it's
just finding the right type of videothat I think is the trick. Yeah.
Well, if anybody wants to catchup with what I'm working on,
you can find me every Saturday overout on YouTube at van Oaks Props,
and every other day of the weekspending far too much time on Instagram also

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