June 18, 2025 • 46 mins
Ha ha ha .... the CDC is forced to put disclaimers on their webpages stating that informatoin contained therein goes against the Trump administration's (and everyone else on planet Earth's) stance that there are only two sexes. This hour I chat a bit about some gender mania resources and then I delve
back in to Robert Whitaker's book Anatomy of an Epidemic, hammering some more on the mental health industrial complex's outright fraudulent "science" on mental illness in America.
back in to Robert Whitaker's book Anatomy of an Epidemic, hammering some more on the mental health industrial complex's outright fraudulent "science" on mental illness in America.
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The California Mama Bears have been forced out of hibernation.
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Wow.
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Fierce guardians of our future. Mama Bear's fight for parents' rights,
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listening to Mama Bear's Radio with your host The New Normal,
Kristin Hurley.
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Welcome back our number two of Mama Bear's Radio, Kristin Hurley.
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Here.
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It's lovely Monday afternoon and I am just getting started.
I was super glad to have my guest last hour,
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I can never remember if it's a commer or whatever.
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you wanted to look up whatever, Poor Google. Anyways, welcome
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He thought he's being creative.
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Four awesome years on air.
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Okay, Christen Focus, I'm wasting my precious, humble little minutes.
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Okay.
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Santa Clair University's crazy idea of human sexuality. So, guys,
this was an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal
published I want to say it's so June sixth, ten
days ago or whatever, by a graduate student at Santa
Clair University. Blew my mind. I saw her kind of
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go crazy on Twitter. I'd never heard of this girl.
Everybody has comments about this opinion article that was published
in the Wall Street Journal. I want to read it
for you. For the most part, Hold on your stinkin' hats.
This is what passes for graduate student graduate programs in
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our universities. Probably not limited to that, but here we go.
Let me just I'm going to quote heavily from this article,
and then, of course, always with my little editorial opinions.
So she writes, this is Naomi EPP's best. I'm a
graduate student in marriage and family therapy.
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I'm going to let that.
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I'm going to repeat that, graduate student in marriage, marriage
and family therapy at Santa Clair University, a Jesubit institution. Recently,
I walked out of class, professor, and I'm gonna botch this.
Chong Jang Way had just played a video of a
female quote influencer engaging in sexual bondage activity. When the
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lights came up, the professor smiled and asked if we
wanted to try it ourselves. Maybe it was just a
crass joke to break the tension, but I didn't want
to find out if a live demonstration was next. I'm
going to repeat myself. This is Santa Clara University. The
article here Santa Clair University's crazy idea of human sexuality.
She's the sub title to become a therapist. I'm expected
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to watch bondage videos and submit a sexual autobiography. This
is by Naomi EP's best. She's a young she's a
young thing. You can go and look her up on
Twitter or whatever, or look this up on the Well
Street Journal. She goes on What began as a simple
accommodation request in a required course called Human Sexuality turned
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into a case study in the reshaping of therapy training
not by science, but by critical theory. This is a
worldview that filters human experience through left wing assumptions about power, oppression,
and identity, particularly regarding race, gender, and sexuality. She goes
on the first time I enrolled in the course, students
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were signed to read Sato Masochistic Erotic and a book
called The Guide to Getting It On, featuring sexually explicit illustrations.
We were told to write. Everyone listened to this. We
were told to write an eight to ten page quote
comprehensive sexual autobiography, which could include early sexual memories, masturbation,
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current experiences, and future goals with an active plan, all
uploaded to a third party platform for grading. Sidebar, Yeah,
rite a third party platform for grading?
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How about for sharing? Okay? Back to the article.
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The syllabus allowed that students quote are not required to
disclose anything that causes extreme discomfort, but that disclaimer rang
hollow attached to an assignment requiring us to discuss such
personal matters on ethical and religious grounds. This is the
author here continuing her editorial, I requested an alternative assignment,
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Carrie Watson, We're gonna name, blame, and shame them here.
Carrie Watson, the department chairman, denied my request, suggesting I
change my plans and pursue a different type of license
in his email sorry. In an email, she described the
course as quote an inoculation of sorts, exposing you to
content you might come across as a licensed therapist. She
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told me that if I did encounter such things in
a professional setting, I could quote assuredly communicate that discomfort
to clients and decline to work with them. So why
did it have to be a part of my training?
Asks the author? I appealed to the dean, the provost,
the Title nine office, the university president, and even campus ministry.
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I'm not sure who was more shocked, the priest reading
the syllabus or me screen sharing sexually explicit videos and
images with him. The course is a gred situation requirement,
so I re enrolled with mister Way, who's new to
the school. I requested the same accommodation that Ms Watson
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said quote Muslim women students had received to complete the
course remotely.
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Mister Way instead scheduled a zoom meeting with me.
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He promised a professional tone and said sexual disclosure wouldn't
be required, but in the classroom, among other things, he
showed a how to bondage video featuring a submissive wearing
a gimsuit, the full body garment design of strict movement,
and played songs like WAP and I Beat My Meat
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Rachel Slurs included. A guest speaker, a male transgender psychologist,
told us quote, only trans women have p s's that
can blow up the world, whatever that may be. Oh,
I can't I can't believe I'm reading this. I can't
believe I'm reading this out loud. I probably should have
said a disclaimer. Sorry, everyone, this is sidebar, but you
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cannot stink and believe this. This is for marriage and
family therapist training for licensure.
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Okay, back to the article.
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One exercise included anonymously writing down something we disliked about
our genitals or breasts to be a red read aloud
in class by another student. Okay, so this is back
to the author here. I again requested to complete the
course remotely. I was told no, I could drop the
course or be dropped. Miss Watson granted a one time
exception to take the w for withdrawal, pay out of
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pocket for continuing education course, to fulfill licensure requirements, and
enroll in an extra three units Santa Clair to be
eligible to graduate. When I asked for a tuition briefund
she called my request astonishing. My objections weren't treated as
signs of a systemic issue, but as a personal grievance
to be managed quietly. And Miss Watson did not respond
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to our request for comment from my editor at the Journal.
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Of course, not okay.
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I'm going to finish this up real quick, and then
we have to take my first break back to the
article again. This is in the Wall Street Journal, published
June sixth. This is Santa Clara University's crazy idea of
human sexuality by Naomi EP's best. When I went public
anonymously on substack, I realized I had stumbled onto something larger.
The entire field of educating therapy has been hollowed out
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and filled in with critical theory. Therapists are no longer
trained to be neutral. They're trained to be agents of
political change. Concepts like modesty and marital privacy aren't merely
treated as optional or even dismissed. They're seen as oppressive
norms to be actively combated. In multicultural counseling was of course, apparently,
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we were told that objective, rational, linear thinking, quote, delayed
gratification and making quote a plan for the future are
traits of quote white culture. I was required to preface
mock therapy sessions by quote naming my whiteness and warning
that I might misread clients because of my race. In
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human sexuality, we were taught that children with six months
of quote gender distress should be quote affirmed in their
belief that they are the opposite sex without deeper assessment,
even when trauma or autism was present. These ideas are
being promoted by the field's top bodies. The American Psychological Association,
American Counseling Association, and Council for Accreditation on Counseling of
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related educational programs have adopted standards grounded in critical theory.
Therapists influence decisions about gender transition, family custody, school discipline,
and even criminal sentencing. When clinicians are trained to see
everything through an ideological lens rather than with ethical neutrality,
the consequences extend far beyond the therapy room. Okay, here's
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the kicker and the article. Here she says, I'm twenty six,
newly married, mother of a one year old girl, and
a few credits from graduating. I pursued every institutional channel available.
I even sought short term therapy through campus mental health services,
which I was denied. A staff psychologist told me that
my department has a history of demanding intimate self disclosure
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from students, a practice he regards as unethical. Speaking up
comes with a risk, But in a field where descent
is discouraged and students are coerced, I've chosen to say
no more. Apparently she's still a graduate student there. I
mean this was only published. Like I said, about ten
days ago. Naomi Up's best and she's been through a
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whole thing online of course, all the haters and the
people that want to make loud noises against anyone that
chooses to speak up. So she's been through the mill. Fantastic,
like I was saying last hour, But I guessed, you know,
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the fortitude, the body parts to speak.
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Up when needed. I'm glad that.
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Someone instilled that in her at some point, that she
had that deep down to say no. You wonder Okay,
she's one out of how many in that gruduate program
or that licensure program for marriage and family therapy. I
might add, if you know that doesn't make you want
to cancel your next appointment, I don't know what does.
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She's one out of how many sitting through that course.
I wonder how many of those other young people are
sitting there going, oh, barf or I'm not writing an
eight to ten page paper about my sex habits. How
many of other of them dislike or excuse me, are
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abhorred by what they're expected to do, but they don't
speak up at least one of them did. I guess
that's a win. All right, Well, I will take my
break and be back. This is Kristen Hurley Mama Bears Radio.
I will be back in just a minute.
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Mama Bears Radio.
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We'll be right back.
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Days will long the deep Blues.
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Guy didn't have a kid, mom, And.
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Welcome back to my Mamma Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley. Here
the end of the innocence for graduate students at Santa
Clara University. That's for darn shirt, darn it, darn it,
these darned people. What the actual hell is all I
can say is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Deep breath. Kristin.
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All right, welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley
going as over here over and I'm going to name,
blame and shame them.
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Now.
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If that's happening at Santa Clara University, you want to
bet it's happening everywhere else too.
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We have to put our little feet down. All right,
here's a win.
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Let's pick ourselves up off the floor from our drooling
and our crying and our tears. Los Angeles Children's Hospital
to shut down trans Youth clinic.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Haha, this is a win. This came out last week.
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The Children's Hospital of Los Angeles has announced it will
close its long running trans Youth Health and Development program
by July twenty second, citing mounting legal and financial pressure
stemming from the Trump administration's recent executive actions. The clinic
has been run by Joe Hannah Olsen Kennedy, who has
worked with thousands of patients on sex changes. If you
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know anything about the story behind her, I'm not going
to get into it right now. I'm just gonna get
excited about this. So the decision comes as federal government
intensifies its scrutiny of controversial gender medical procedures on minors.
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Thank you.
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According to internal communications reviewed by The Los Angeles Times,
the chla's leadership determined there was quote no viable alternative
to closing the clinic if the hospital is to remain
operational and continues serving the broader pediagic excuse me, pediatric
population of southern California. The Trans Youth Center one of
the few clinics in the country to for gender modifying drugs,
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hormone therapies, and surgeries to children and teens on public
and insurance. There's the qualifier. That's you, My dear friends,
The taxpayer has faced increasing scrutiny as the federal government
moves to stop the controversial procedures. Thank you, thank you,
Thank you. All right, so that is a win. Let's
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have more of that. Close your doors up. What I
think is so funny though, this is funny, not funny.
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This is one of those okay.
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On I went back to the Children's Health Defense website
because I think that I started this Mama Bear's four
point zero journey out. I think I started talking about
this way back when I don't know, in March, when
Mama Bears came back online here at KOMY under the
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umbrella of childhood epidemic crazy diseases. Right, fifty four percent
of US youth are chronically ill. And I was citing
some of these statistics. Four in kids with depression, sorry,
four and ten kids with depression, one in five kids
with obesity, one in five kids with suicidal thoughts, one
in six with developmental disorders, one in ten with anxiety,
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one in ten with ADHD, one in twelve with asthma,
one in thirteen with food allergies, one in thirty six
kids with autism, and one in two hundred and eighty
five kids with cancer by age of twenty. What this
is a powerful theme here on this show that I
really want to keep revisiting, and in fact I'm going
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back as a continuation of last week's journey and fora
into mental health or lack thereof treatment resistance Lord Delano's
book that I was talking a lot about last last week.
But what I was delving a little bit more into
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the chronic health conditions among children, and I clicked on
a link that took me to the CDC site for
Healthy Youth and Mental Health. Okay, but here's the fun part.
So here's the CDC dot gov slash Healthy Dash, Youth
slash Mental Dash, Health Adolescent in School Health. So under
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on the top of this page, here's this banner. Per
a court order, HHS is required to restore this website
as a blank, blank blank February fourteenth, twenty twenty five.
Any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely
inaccurate and disconnected from the immutable biological reality that there
are two sexes, male and female. The Trump Administration rejects
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gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children
by promoting their chemical and surgical mutilation, and to women
by depriving them of their dignity, safety, well being, and opportunities.
This page does not reflect biological reality, and therefore the
administration and this department rejects it.
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Now it's the page is still up.
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I don't get the part about they how to put
it back up, but I love it. There's a big
old block at the top of the page. Here's the disclaimer.
This is garbage. The crap you're about to read blow
here is garbage if it's promoting anything other than immutable
biological reality that there's two sexes male and female.
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It's trash.
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So I thought that was a little kicker I wanted
to share with everyone. But on these okay, And why
does Kristen talk about this stuff all the time, Because
it's nutso and it at every facet of this whole.
You can be a different gender and not who you want,
and you can cut off a body part and it
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will magically transform.
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You into someone else.
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Is the worst crime perpetrated on our next generation ever.
I mean, if I had a chance to burn someone.
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At the steak, this would be This would be a
good reason.
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These doctors that talk about misinformation, that bald face lie
to children and then go and give them harmful drugs
and chemicals. Yes, chemical and surgical mutilation is what it is.
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And like I'm saying, if anybody deserves to be burned
at a steak and we can all agree on this
except for like a precious view that just have speaking
of mental illness. Okay, But the reason I bring this
up is the more we peel back the layers of
the onion of this sucker. As I say, we're coming,
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you know, it's coming to a head, and there are
more people like our miss Best at Santa Clair University
speaking up. There's more studies, there's more conversation, there's more
sanity checks, there's more common sense, and we have to
we have to crush this. We're gonna drive ourselves insane.
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But genspect. Okay, So this is another organization. I come
across this stuff all the time, and I just want
to bring it up in case anybody needs resources. GENSPEC
J sorry, g E N S P E c T.
Why we must protect puberty. This is an organization. They
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they have posted and you can sign on to a
memorandum of understanding from GENSPEC, rallying a global movement to
defend healthy adolescent development. If you're an adult, you can darn.
We'll do what you want and then live with the consequences,
but not to our children. So there's more organizations list
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like Jenspect. They have a really cool gender dysphoria support tool,
Friends and Family and Friends Survey and parental Survey. And
I do enough to take my break in just a minute,
but everybody stay with me here. I read a substack
by a family and they were in the UK, and
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they had a little girl who was a little girl
and she ran around in her tinker bell dress when
she was young and wings and she just a girly girl,
had a streak of autism somewhere in there, had some
social issues and a little, you know, some trouble interfacing
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with the outside world. As she got older, of course,
was captured by this insane ideology in secrets.
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She went to a gender clinic in the UK.
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And they when she became older, she I think she
The story was, she broached I want to be a
boy when she was maybe fifteen with her parents and
they're like, hello, you're fine, you're a girl, and they
stood their ground and she backed off, but secretly then pursued,
probably with the assistance of someone in school or someone
closer to her. And so the family received this letter
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in the mail from this gender clinic about Logan or
whatever boy name she had chosen for herself and said
that you know, she's up for her her puberty blockers
next week at her next.
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Appointment or whatever. That in the family hit.
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The ceiling, okay, but they found this organization Jens backed
in the Gender Dysphoria Support Tool and what this It's
an assessment assessment package and this is an assessment gathering
observations from family member and others who've known your child
well over time. When multiple observer share similar perspectives, their
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collective insight becomes harder to dismiss. And there's a parental
survey as well. And what this family did was they
had their friends and family, a ton of people fill
out information about this young lady that spoke of her
growing up, dispelled the lies that she had told the gender.
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Clinic that she she had outright lied.
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To them in order to check the boxes to be
able to get the puberty blockers or whatever. And the
family went to bat and said, no, that you know,
this maybe gender dysphoria, but she is not a boy
on the inside. And here's her behavior over her entire
adolescent you know, childhood adolescents, whatever. And they ganged up
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on this gender clinic, and the gender clinic backed off,
sent them a letter afterwards saying, okay, fine, we're dropping
you on this. If you want, you can go to
the and I said, this was in the UK. You
can go to the NHS or whatever. They dropped her
like a hot potato. And so it's an interesting approach
if that someone in your family or life thinks that
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they want to chop off body parts and are going around,
you know, with a clinic all too happy to collect
the paycheck for that. You might want to check this
organization out again. They provide publications, resources, support, group support,
anything parents could use when confronting this with their kids.
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And there's also a related organization called Thoughtful Therapists, which
are a group of probably didn't go through Santa Clair
University Marriage and Family licensing program, but they are therapists
that are egreeged at all of this and will support
a family and their and their kids through these difficult
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dysphoria times. Okay, everybody, So I am gonna have to
be disciplined and take my next break. I keep babbling
and totally blow it, so let me stay on task here,
take a break. When I come back, I actually going
to get back into So there was a second book
that I had discussed last week we were talking about
on shrunk, a story of Lord Delano, her book about
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her experience as a mental illness patient and all of
the nineteen different cocktail of drugs that she was put
on over the years. But the book that gave her
pause originally was called Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whittaker.
And I want to read a little bit from this book.
An incredible resource written and was published in twenty ten.
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So some of the.
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Stuff is like a little bit years old, but so good.
So everybody stay tuned. We're gonna tell into that when
I come back. This is Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurly here,
I will be right back.
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Mama Bear's Radio.
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Bear. We'll be right back down the street.
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You can hear the screen you are discrace as she
slams the door and it's gone to lease and now
it stands outside and all the neighbors start the gussip.
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Ben true, welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. I might
just let Jimmy Hendrix roll here. No one needs to
hear me when you can be listening to Jimmy Hendrix
shoot castles in the sand.
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And so castle's made of sand fall in list scene.
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Eventually, and if that isn't us in twenty twenty five,
I don't even know it is, all right, thanks Jimmy.
All right, everybody, I'm gonna.
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Have to barrel through all this stuff.
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As I started out the day saying fifteen hours, maybe
sixteen will do So why, okay, why am I talking
about all this I'm about to delve back into as
this subtitle of the book, Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs and
the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America. Why am
I heavy hitting on heavy hitting on this topic. Why
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am I pounding the sands of the castles made of
the sand castles of this gender ideology mania? It's not politics,
it's love of people and country. I want us to
be well and do well. And we are in such
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a death spiral on so many levels.
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We are bat as crazy.
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And I just cannot stay silent on some of these
things where I think we have gone seriously far afield,
maybe through no fault of our own, I don't know.
Do we need to learn the lessons here on a
number of levels, Yes, clearly, God's like how you people
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figure it out? Here's another lightning strike. Figure it out,
and we're working on it. But I'd like, I come.
I just have a few themes in my life that
have affected me personally.
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That I think affects all of us.
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And we have to face the facts that this isn't
a right or a left battle. This is a crisis
of humanity. What we're doing to our kids. And yes,
it has its tentacles of money and greed.
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How is it that the.
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Rise of mental illness in America.
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Has so shuts like the debt curve that you've even
looking at it, like, oh, America's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Gone off the deep end with our debt trillions and
trillions and trillions of trillions and trillions. Oh yeah, we've
got our stuff together America financially. Sure have you seen
the debt curve? Well, the mental illness curve is the
same thing. Okay, my favorite thing. I this is a
total pause. In twenty twenty with this whole stupid COVID world.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
We went through.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I made a bumper sticker from my car and it
said we flattened the Freedom Curve, and somebody got so
pissed that they scraped it off my car. A couple
of months later, they couldn't handle the truth, could write
because Fauci was like, we have to flatten the curve.
Two weeks to flatten the curve, and I was like, well,
we flattened a curve. It wasn't the COVID curve. It
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was the freedom curve. Okay, I'm sorry. So the mental
illness curve has gone off the charts. Why is that. Well,
if the drugs that were giving everyone as treatment, take
this and you'll feel better.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
You need this.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
If that was working, don't you think it would be
the inverse curve, And it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's off the charts.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Sixty six million Americans probably more because that was a
twenty twenty two stat are on one or more mood
altering antipsychotic antidepressant.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You get the picture.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Drugs that permanently alter the chemistry in your brain. It
was probably fine in the first place, but you go
on the drugs, just like if you become an addict
cocaine or meth or you name it.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You permanently change.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
The structure of the function of your brain and becomes
dependent upon those substances. And we've done this to ourselves
and we're doing it to our kids, and it's killing me.
So again, Anatomy of an Epidemic. This is by Robert Whittaker.
I'm halfway through this book.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This again. I think if you.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Takes this book is so heavily annotated and like the
back you know there. I love it when a book
is like you like the last fifth of the book
are the citations so heavily backed up by research and
hard and fast data and facts.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's impressive. It's a very detailed book.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Therefore I only can do a couple pages of a time,
but I wanted to share. I'm gir, I have another
break to take. Am I going to be a good
girl and take my break? Or am I going to
plow right through it? I might plower right through it.
I want to quote a little bit from this book.
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This is chapter nine, the Bipolar Boom. And you wonder
about as RFK talks about, and.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
We said, regulatory capture.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We know there's a revolving door obviously between the regulators
and the industry.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This goes for everything.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This goes for a lot of different genres, but particularly
in big pharma and medicine. And he taught this author
was at the two thousand and eight Annual Meeting of
the American Psychiatric Association in DC.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Big you know.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
APA con whatever it is, big conference and big presentations.
Every day he's writing that told of the great advances
that lay ahead. The leaders of the APA regularly urged
the reporters and science writers and attendance to quote help
get the message out that psychiatric treatment works. And is effective,
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and that our diseases are real diseases, just like cardiovascular
diseases and cancer. This is from the APA President, Carolyn Rabinowitz.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
We need to work together as partners so we can
get the word out to patients and families. The press
has an important role to play, explain the incoming president,
not a Logan's Stotland, because quote, the public is vulnerable
to misinformation. This is two thousand and eight. Everybody. She
urged reporters to quote help us inform the public that
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psychiatric illness is real, psychiatric treatments work, and that our
data is as solid as in other areas of medicine. Okay,
so the author, and for brevity, I'm going to skip
through some of this again.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
This is from chapter nine. Robert Whitaker.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
He said, each day I would go for a stroll
in the exhibit hall, which I always enjoyed. Eli Lilly, Pfiser,
Bristol Myers, Squib and others. Other leading vendors of psychiatric
drugs had all had welcoming centers where if you were
a doctor, you could collect various trinkets and gifts. Pfisers
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seemed to be the most popular as the psychiatrists could
pick up a new personalized gift each day, their names
printed on a mini flashlight one day and a mobile
phone charger than next. They could also win a gift
by playing a video game called the Physician's Race Challenge,
the pace of their virtual self racing towards the finish
line governed by how well they answered questions about the
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wonders of Geodon as a treatment for their bipolar illness.
After playing that game, many lined up to have their
photos taken and stamped on a campaign button that said quote.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Best doctor on Earth.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
The best attended events of the conference, where the industry
sponsored symponesiums. At every breakfast, lunch, and dinner hour, the
doctor could enjoy a sumptuous free meal, which was then
followed by talks on the chosen topic. There were symposiums
on depression, ADHD, schizophrenia, and the prescribing of antipsychotics to
children and adolescents, and nearly all of the speakers hailed
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from top academic schools. Okay, and I want to emphasize
this point. We'll finish this paragraph before I take my break.
So the book goes on to say the fact that
they were all being paid by the drug companies was
openly acknowledged, as the APA, as part of a new
disclosure policy, had published a chart listing all the ways
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that pharmaceutical money flowed to these quote thought leaders. In
addition to receiving rich monies, most of the quote experts
served as consultants, on advisory boards and as members of
speakers bureaus. Thus you could see that Joseph Biederman, a
psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, who during the
nineteen nineties led the way in popularizing juvenile bipolar disorder,
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received research grants from eight firms, acted as quote consultant
to nine, and served as a speaker for eight. His
long list of pharmaceutical clients was not all that unusual,
and at times speakers had to update their information in
the disclosure guide when they strove to the podium as
they had recently added another pharmaceutical company to their list
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of clients. After Harvard Harvard Medical schools, Jeene Fraser dutifully
relayed such information at a symposium devoted to the merits
of putting children on multiple psychiatric drugs. She said, without
any hint apparent hint of irony, quote I hope you
find my presentation unbiased. You want a snicker in barf
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at the same time. So this is the state of
again not limited to big pharma, big medicine, where there's
this major major crossover of ethics violations thereof and money
flowing both ways, and your children and your families are
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at the expense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Okay, we will take our last quick break of the day.
I have the.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
If you guys could see the pages marked in this
book of like juicy quotes and tidbits and data that
I want to talk about you. Like I said, fifteen sixteen,
maybe seventeen hours more of Mama.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Bears to go.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right, Kristin Hurley here Mama Bears Radio. I'll take
my last break and be right.
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Back Mama Bear's Radio.
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We'll be right.
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Speaker 3 (41:43):
Who welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. My last precious
segment of the day. Actually, I put on a different
hat and at school's out drivetime show. For the next
two hours, I will be in the bomb shelter with
my crew here trying to be entertaining and less depressing.
Speaking of depression. I'm going to finish a little just
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another little bit. So this book goes on to say,
this is a later chapter. As recently as nineteen eighty eight,
the year Prozac came to market, only one in two
hundred and fifty children under nineteen years of age in
the United States was taking an antidepressant. This was partially
due to a cultural belief that youth were naturally moody
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and recovered quickly from depressive episodes, and partly because study
after study had shown that tricyclics, which is an earlier
version of antidepressants that was marketed, work no better than
a placebo in this age group.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
There's no escaping the fact that research studies certainly have
not supported the efficacy of a tricyclic antidepressant in treated
depressed adolescents. This is the Journal of Child and Adolescents
Psychopharmat Sorry Psychopharmacology editorial.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
In nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Two, however, when Prozac and the other SSRIs were brought
to and touted as wonder drugs, the prescribing of antidepressants
to children took off. The percentage of children so medicated
tripled between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen ninety four, and
by two thousand and two, one in every forty children
under nineteen years of age in the United States was
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taking an antidepressant. Oh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
During the course of the SSRI related lawsuits, right, one
in forty kids is on it.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
There's lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Expert witnesses for the plaintiffs, most notably David Healen England
and Peter Bragan in the United States, got a look
at some of the trial data to get these approved right,
and they observed that the drugs increased the suicide risk.
They spoke out about what they had found, with an
increasing number of anguished parents telling of how their children
had killed themselves after going on an SSRI. The FDA
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was forced to hold hearing in two thousand and four
on this risk and four so long ago. But it
did happen. This is recent that in turn led to
a stunning admission by the FDA's Thomas Laffrin about the
drug's efficacy and children twelve pay attention here. Twelve of
the fifteen pediatric antidepressant trials that had been conducted had failed.
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The FDA in fact, had rejected the applications of six
manufacturers seeking approval to sell their antidepressants to children. These
are sobering findings. Laufren confessed the FDA did not approve
Prozac for use in children, as two of the three
positive studies reviewed by Lafren had come from trials of
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this drug. It did approve Prozac. Sorry, two of the
three okay. So out of fifteen studies twelve failed, there
were three left. Two of them were presented to the
FDA for approval for Prozac. But Eli Lilly simply had
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been better at using biased trial designs to make it
appear that its drug worked. For example, in one of
the two Prozac trials, all of the children were initially
put on placebo for one week, and if they got
better during that period, they were excluded from the study.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Whoops.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
This helped knock down the placebo response rate. Next, the
children who were randomized into prozac were evaluated for a week,
and only those who adapted well to the drug were
then enrolled in the study. This helped increase the drug
response rate. The book is full of such discussions of
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the actual data. All right, America, we've got this. We're
gonna figure out We're gonna conquer all. I want to
leave everyone with a little message of hope. We got
schools out drive Time. Then we've got Henry Michelle in
Surfgates City, and then tonight at seven we have the
Cyt Crew from here in Santa Cruz. They have a
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number of shows the summer, so we're gonna hear from
them at seven o'clock. All right, everybody, stay tuned, keep
your claws out. This is Mama Bears Radio, Kristin Hurley.
Here'll be back next week.
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It's lovely Monday afternoon and I am just getting started.
I was super glad to have my guest last hour,
Matt Bidroau from Apage Strong. Super cool that these amazing
people are out there offering these wonderful programs for her
young things. We need more of that. Anyways, I encourage
everybody to check the them out in apage Strong dot com.
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I can never remember if it's a commer or whatever.
You'd just Google it, although I hear poor Google is
really really get in the middle finger these days. Can
you can go straight to grock or whatever and get
all your questions answered, find websites, look up the music
you wanted to look up whatever, Poor Google. Anyways, welcome
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back to Mama Bear's Radio. We have a crazy hour
ahead of us nutty people running them up Santa Clara
University near and dear to our hearts here there in
our backyard. I have a number of other things that
get through, So without further ado, I suppose my den cleaning.
I'm not sure I have even edited my darn website yet,
(01:47):
you know, as I say on the totem pole of priorities,
fixing up the Mama Bear's website, my static little HTML page,
I think I need to update it. I think it
still says the other station. But at any rate, you
can always find me there. You can email me at
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Right, but at any rate, it's up there just in
case you miss an hour. And I appreciate everyone, you know,
the periodic nice messages and goodwill and et cetera. We're
trying to build a really cool station here at Komy.
More stuff in the works. Everything in life moves at
a smail's pace. It's you know, years ago. We my
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husband's been through a million different startups, a million different
product ideas, a million different iterations of kind of being
mister tinkerpreneur.
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Had. We had a guy one time.
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He's working with this years ago, and there was a
particular little it was like a little email gadget.
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It was like just emails for.
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Like the old folks back in the day when internet
and email was just kind of coming to fruition. And
the one guy, the one partner, wanted to name the product.
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It's so easy.
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It s so easy or something is how he spelled it,
and you could never look at it straight and pronounce it.
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It's so as. It was just, you know, it didn't work.
He thought he's being creative.
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But my husband and I always like, it's not so
easy is our you know? The product name for just
about everything that he's working on. Everything you do takes time.
Case in point Ko and y Schoolhouse Radio work in progress,
but we're having a lot of fun bringing you cool
new programs both local and national, et cetera, et cetera.
(03:50):
But yours truly here, I want to say Mama Bear's Radio.
Mama Bear's birthday is coming up in July. I'm gonna
have to really tune my fifty year old brain to
fear fure out. What was the first air date for
Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
It was July twenty something.
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I want to say, in twenty twenty one, I'll have
to conjure up that date and we'll throw a little
birthday party from Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Four awesome years on air.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Okay, Christen Focus, I'm wasting my precious, humble little minutes.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Okay.
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Santa Clair University's crazy idea of human sexuality. So, guys,
this was an opinion piece in the Wall Street Journal
published I want to say it's so June sixth, ten
days ago or whatever, by a graduate student at Santa
Clair University. Blew my mind. I saw her kind of
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go crazy on Twitter. I'd never heard of this girl.
Everybody has comments about this opinion article that was published
in the Wall Street Journal. I want to read it
for you. For the most part, Hold on your stinkin' hats.
This is what passes for graduate student graduate programs in
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our universities. Probably not limited to that, but here we go.
Let me just I'm going to quote heavily from this article,
and then, of course, always with my little editorial opinions.
So she writes, this is Naomi EPP's best. I'm a
graduate student in marriage and family therapy.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I'm going to let that.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I'm going to repeat that, graduate student in marriage, marriage
and family therapy at Santa Clair University, a Jesubit institution. Recently,
I walked out of class, professor, and I'm gonna botch this.
Chong Jang Way had just played a video of a
female quote influencer engaging in sexual bondage activity. When the
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lights came up, the professor smiled and asked if we
wanted to try it ourselves. Maybe it was just a
crass joke to break the tension, but I didn't want
to find out if a live demonstration was next. I'm
going to repeat myself. This is Santa Clara University. The
article here Santa Clair University's crazy idea of human sexuality.
She's the sub title to become a therapist. I'm expected
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to watch bondage videos and submit a sexual autobiography. This
is by Naomi EP's best. She's a young she's a
young thing. You can go and look her up on
Twitter or whatever, or look this up on the Well
Street Journal. She goes on What began as a simple
accommodation request in a required course called Human Sexuality turned
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into a case study in the reshaping of therapy training
not by science, but by critical theory. This is a
worldview that filters human experience through left wing assumptions about power, oppression,
and identity, particularly regarding race, gender, and sexuality. She goes
on the first time I enrolled in the course, students
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were signed to read Sato Masochistic Erotic and a book
called The Guide to Getting It On, featuring sexually explicit illustrations.
We were told to write. Everyone listened to this. We
were told to write an eight to ten page quote
comprehensive sexual autobiography, which could include early sexual memories, masturbation,
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current experiences, and future goals with an active plan, all
uploaded to a third party platform for grading. Sidebar, Yeah,
rite a third party platform for grading?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
How about for sharing? Okay? Back to the article.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
The syllabus allowed that students quote are not required to
disclose anything that causes extreme discomfort, but that disclaimer rang
hollow attached to an assignment requiring us to discuss such
personal matters on ethical and religious grounds. This is the
author here continuing her editorial, I requested an alternative assignment,
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Carrie Watson, We're gonna name, blame, and shame them here.
Carrie Watson, the department chairman, denied my request, suggesting I
change my plans and pursue a different type of license
in his email sorry. In an email, she described the
course as quote an inoculation of sorts, exposing you to
content you might come across as a licensed therapist. She
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told me that if I did encounter such things in
a professional setting, I could quote assuredly communicate that discomfort
to clients and decline to work with them. So why
did it have to be a part of my training?
Asks the author? I appealed to the dean, the provost,
the Title nine office, the university president, and even campus ministry.
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I'm not sure who was more shocked, the priest reading
the syllabus or me screen sharing sexually explicit videos and
images with him. The course is a gred situation requirement,
so I re enrolled with mister Way, who's new to
the school. I requested the same accommodation that Ms Watson
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said quote Muslim women students had received to complete the
course remotely.
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Mister Way instead scheduled a zoom meeting with me.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
He promised a professional tone and said sexual disclosure wouldn't
be required, but in the classroom, among other things, he
showed a how to bondage video featuring a submissive wearing
a gimsuit, the full body garment design of strict movement,
and played songs like WAP and I Beat My Meat
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Rachel Slurs included. A guest speaker, a male transgender psychologist,
told us quote, only trans women have p s's that
can blow up the world, whatever that may be. Oh,
I can't I can't believe I'm reading this. I can't
believe I'm reading this out loud. I probably should have
said a disclaimer. Sorry, everyone, this is sidebar, but you
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cannot stink and believe this. This is for marriage and
family therapist training for licensure.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Okay, back to the article.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
One exercise included anonymously writing down something we disliked about
our genitals or breasts to be a red read aloud
in class by another student. Okay, so this is back
to the author here. I again requested to complete the
course remotely. I was told no, I could drop the
course or be dropped. Miss Watson granted a one time
exception to take the w for withdrawal, pay out of
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pocket for continuing education course, to fulfill licensure requirements, and
enroll in an extra three units Santa Clair to be
eligible to graduate. When I asked for a tuition briefund
she called my request astonishing. My objections weren't treated as
signs of a systemic issue, but as a personal grievance
to be managed quietly. And Miss Watson did not respond
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to our request for comment from my editor at the Journal.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Of course, not okay.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
I'm going to finish this up real quick, and then
we have to take my first break back to the
article again. This is in the Wall Street Journal, published
June sixth. This is Santa Clara University's crazy idea of
human sexuality by Naomi EP's best. When I went public
anonymously on substack, I realized I had stumbled onto something larger.
The entire field of educating therapy has been hollowed out
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and filled in with critical theory. Therapists are no longer
trained to be neutral. They're trained to be agents of
political change. Concepts like modesty and marital privacy aren't merely
treated as optional or even dismissed. They're seen as oppressive
norms to be actively combated. In multicultural counseling was of course, apparently,
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we were told that objective, rational, linear thinking, quote, delayed
gratification and making quote a plan for the future are
traits of quote white culture. I was required to preface
mock therapy sessions by quote naming my whiteness and warning
that I might misread clients because of my race. In
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human sexuality, we were taught that children with six months
of quote gender distress should be quote affirmed in their
belief that they are the opposite sex without deeper assessment,
even when trauma or autism was present. These ideas are
being promoted by the field's top bodies. The American Psychological Association,
American Counseling Association, and Council for Accreditation on Counseling of
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related educational programs have adopted standards grounded in critical theory.
Therapists influence decisions about gender transition, family custody, school discipline,
and even criminal sentencing. When clinicians are trained to see
everything through an ideological lens rather than with ethical neutrality,
the consequences extend far beyond the therapy room. Okay, here's
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the kicker and the article. Here she says, I'm twenty six,
newly married, mother of a one year old girl, and
a few credits from graduating. I pursued every institutional channel available.
I even sought short term therapy through campus mental health services,
which I was denied. A staff psychologist told me that
my department has a history of demanding intimate self disclosure
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from students, a practice he regards as unethical. Speaking up
comes with a risk, But in a field where descent
is discouraged and students are coerced, I've chosen to say
no more. Apparently she's still a graduate student there. I
mean this was only published. Like I said, about ten
days ago. Naomi Up's best and she's been through a
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whole thing online of course, all the haters and the
people that want to make loud noises against anyone that
chooses to speak up. So she's been through the mill. Fantastic,
like I was saying last hour, But I guessed, you know,
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the fortitude, the body parts to speak.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Up when needed. I'm glad that.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Someone instilled that in her at some point, that she
had that deep down to say no. You wonder Okay,
she's one out of how many in that gruduate program
or that licensure program for marriage and family therapy. I
might add, if you know that doesn't make you want
to cancel your next appointment, I don't know what does.
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She's one out of how many sitting through that course.
I wonder how many of those other young people are
sitting there going, oh, barf or I'm not writing an
eight to ten page paper about my sex habits. How
many of other of them dislike or excuse me, are
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abhorred by what they're expected to do, but they don't
speak up at least one of them did. I guess
that's a win. All right, Well, I will take my
break and be back. This is Kristen Hurley Mama Bears Radio.
I will be back in just a minute.
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Mama Bears Radio.
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We'll be right back.
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Days will long the deep Blues.
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Guy didn't have a kid, mom, And.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Welcome back to my Mamma Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley. Here
the end of the innocence for graduate students at Santa
Clara University. That's for darn shirt, darn it, darn it,
these darned people. What the actual hell is all I
can say is disgusting.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Deep breath. Kristin.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
All right, welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley
going as over here over and I'm going to name,
blame and shame them.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
If that's happening at Santa Clara University, you want to
bet it's happening everywhere else too.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
We have to put our little feet down. All right,
here's a win.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
Let's pick ourselves up off the floor from our drooling
and our crying and our tears. Los Angeles Children's Hospital
to shut down trans Youth clinic.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Haha, this is a win. This came out last week.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
The Children's Hospital of Los Angeles has announced it will
close its long running trans Youth Health and Development program
by July twenty second, citing mounting legal and financial pressure
stemming from the Trump administration's recent executive actions. The clinic
has been run by Joe Hannah Olsen Kennedy, who has
worked with thousands of patients on sex changes. If you
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know anything about the story behind her, I'm not going
to get into it right now. I'm just gonna get
excited about this. So the decision comes as federal government
intensifies its scrutiny of controversial gender medical procedures on minors.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
According to internal communications reviewed by The Los Angeles Times,
the chla's leadership determined there was quote no viable alternative
to closing the clinic if the hospital is to remain
operational and continues serving the broader pediagic excuse me, pediatric
population of southern California. The Trans Youth Center one of
the few clinics in the country to for gender modifying drugs,
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hormone therapies, and surgeries to children and teens on public
and insurance. There's the qualifier. That's you, My dear friends,
The taxpayer has faced increasing scrutiny as the federal government
moves to stop the controversial procedures. Thank you, thank you,
Thank you. All right, so that is a win. Let's
(18:23):
have more of that. Close your doors up. What I
think is so funny though, this is funny, not funny.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
This is one of those okay.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
On I went back to the Children's Health Defense website
because I think that I started this Mama Bear's four
point zero journey out. I think I started talking about
this way back when I don't know, in March, when
Mama Bears came back online here at KOMY under the
(18:56):
umbrella of childhood epidemic crazy diseases. Right, fifty four percent
of US youth are chronically ill. And I was citing
some of these statistics. Four in kids with depression, sorry,
four and ten kids with depression, one in five kids
with obesity, one in five kids with suicidal thoughts, one
in six with developmental disorders, one in ten with anxiety,
(19:18):
one in ten with ADHD, one in twelve with asthma,
one in thirteen with food allergies, one in thirty six
kids with autism, and one in two hundred and eighty
five kids with cancer by age of twenty. What this
is a powerful theme here on this show that I
really want to keep revisiting, and in fact I'm going
(19:41):
back as a continuation of last week's journey and fora
into mental health or lack thereof treatment resistance Lord Delano's
book that I was talking a lot about last last week.
But what I was delving a little bit more into
(20:02):
the chronic health conditions among children, and I clicked on
a link that took me to the CDC site for
Healthy Youth and Mental Health. Okay, but here's the fun part.
So here's the CDC dot gov slash Healthy Dash, Youth
slash Mental Dash, Health Adolescent in School Health. So under
(20:22):
on the top of this page, here's this banner. Per
a court order, HHS is required to restore this website
as a blank, blank blank February fourteenth, twenty twenty five.
Any information on this page promoting gender ideology is extremely
inaccurate and disconnected from the immutable biological reality that there
are two sexes, male and female. The Trump Administration rejects
(20:45):
gender ideology and condemns the harms it causes to children
by promoting their chemical and surgical mutilation, and to women
by depriving them of their dignity, safety, well being, and opportunities.
This page does not reflect biological reality, and therefore the
administration and this department rejects it.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Now it's the page is still up.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
I don't get the part about they how to put
it back up, but I love it. There's a big
old block at the top of the page. Here's the disclaimer.
This is garbage. The crap you're about to read blow
here is garbage if it's promoting anything other than immutable
biological reality that there's two sexes male and female.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
It's trash.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
So I thought that was a little kicker I wanted
to share with everyone. But on these okay, And why
does Kristen talk about this stuff all the time, Because
it's nutso and it at every facet of this whole.
You can be a different gender and not who you want,
and you can cut off a body part and it
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will magically transform.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
You into someone else.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Is the worst crime perpetrated on our next generation ever.
I mean, if I had a chance to burn someone.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
At the steak, this would be This would be a
good reason.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
These doctors that talk about misinformation, that bald face lie
to children and then go and give them harmful drugs
and chemicals. Yes, chemical and surgical mutilation is what it is.
(22:40):
And like I'm saying, if anybody deserves to be burned
at a steak and we can all agree on this
except for like a precious view that just have speaking
of mental illness. Okay, But the reason I bring this
up is the more we peel back the layers of
the onion of this sucker. As I say, we're coming,
(23:02):
you know, it's coming to a head, and there are
more people like our miss Best at Santa Clair University
speaking up. There's more studies, there's more conversation, there's more
sanity checks, there's more common sense, and we have to
we have to crush this. We're gonna drive ourselves insane.
(23:24):
But genspect. Okay, So this is another organization. I come
across this stuff all the time, and I just want
to bring it up in case anybody needs resources. GENSPEC
J sorry, g E N S P E c T.
Why we must protect puberty. This is an organization. They
(23:46):
they have posted and you can sign on to a
memorandum of understanding from GENSPEC, rallying a global movement to
defend healthy adolescent development. If you're an adult, you can darn.
We'll do what you want and then live with the consequences,
but not to our children. So there's more organizations list
(24:08):
like Jenspect. They have a really cool gender dysphoria support tool,
Friends and Family and Friends Survey and parental Survey. And
I do enough to take my break in just a minute,
but everybody stay with me here. I read a substack
by a family and they were in the UK, and
(24:28):
they had a little girl who was a little girl
and she ran around in her tinker bell dress when
she was young and wings and she just a girly girl,
had a streak of autism somewhere in there, had some
social issues and a little, you know, some trouble interfacing
(24:49):
with the outside world. As she got older, of course,
was captured by this insane ideology in secrets.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
She went to a gender clinic in the UK.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
And they when she became older, she I think she
The story was, she broached I want to be a
boy when she was maybe fifteen with her parents and
they're like, hello, you're fine, you're a girl, and they
stood their ground and she backed off, but secretly then pursued,
probably with the assistance of someone in school or someone
closer to her. And so the family received this letter
(25:26):
in the mail from this gender clinic about Logan or
whatever boy name she had chosen for herself and said
that you know, she's up for her her puberty blockers
next week at her next.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Appointment or whatever. That in the family hit.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
The ceiling, okay, but they found this organization Jens backed
in the Gender Dysphoria Support Tool and what this It's
an assessment assessment package and this is an assessment gathering
observations from family member and others who've known your child
well over time. When multiple observer share similar perspectives, their
(26:05):
collective insight becomes harder to dismiss. And there's a parental
survey as well. And what this family did was they
had their friends and family, a ton of people fill
out information about this young lady that spoke of her
growing up, dispelled the lies that she had told the gender.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Clinic that she she had outright lied.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
To them in order to check the boxes to be
able to get the puberty blockers or whatever. And the
family went to bat and said, no, that you know,
this maybe gender dysphoria, but she is not a boy
on the inside. And here's her behavior over her entire
adolescent you know, childhood adolescents, whatever. And they ganged up
(26:46):
on this gender clinic, and the gender clinic backed off,
sent them a letter afterwards saying, okay, fine, we're dropping
you on this. If you want, you can go to
the and I said, this was in the UK. You
can go to the NHS or whatever. They dropped her
like a hot potato. And so it's an interesting approach
if that someone in your family or life thinks that
(27:08):
they want to chop off body parts and are going around,
you know, with a clinic all too happy to collect
the paycheck for that. You might want to check this
organization out again. They provide publications, resources, support, group support,
anything parents could use when confronting this with their kids.
(27:30):
And there's also a related organization called Thoughtful Therapists, which
are a group of probably didn't go through Santa Clair
University Marriage and Family licensing program, but they are therapists
that are egreeged at all of this and will support
a family and their and their kids through these difficult
(27:52):
dysphoria times. Okay, everybody, So I am gonna have to
be disciplined and take my next break. I keep babbling
and totally blow it, so let me stay on task here,
take a break. When I come back, I actually going
to get back into So there was a second book
that I had discussed last week we were talking about
on shrunk, a story of Lord Delano, her book about
(28:15):
her experience as a mental illness patient and all of
the nineteen different cocktail of drugs that she was put
on over the years. But the book that gave her
pause originally was called Anatomy of an Epidemic by Robert Whittaker.
And I want to read a little bit from this book.
An incredible resource written and was published in twenty ten.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So some of the.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Stuff is like a little bit years old, but so good.
So everybody stay tuned. We're gonna tell into that when
I come back. This is Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurly here,
I will be right back.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Bear. We'll be right back down the street.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
You can hear the screen you are discrace as she
slams the door and it's gone to lease and now
it stands outside and all the neighbors start the gussip.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Ben true, welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. I might
just let Jimmy Hendrix roll here. No one needs to
hear me when you can be listening to Jimmy Hendrix
shoot castles in the sand.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
And so castle's made of sand fall in list scene.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Eventually, and if that isn't us in twenty twenty five,
I don't even know it is, all right, thanks Jimmy.
All right, everybody, I'm gonna.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Have to barrel through all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
As I started out the day saying fifteen hours, maybe
sixteen will do So why, okay, why am I talking
about all this I'm about to delve back into as
this subtitle of the book, Magic Bullets, Psychiatric Drugs and
the Astonishing Rise of Mental Illness in America. Why am
I heavy hitting on heavy hitting on this topic. Why
(30:31):
am I pounding the sands of the castles made of
the sand castles of this gender ideology mania? It's not politics,
it's love of people and country. I want us to
be well and do well. And we are in such
(30:52):
a death spiral on so many levels.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
We are bat as crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
And I just cannot stay silent on some of these
things where I think we have gone seriously far afield,
maybe through no fault of our own, I don't know.
Do we need to learn the lessons here on a
number of levels, Yes, clearly, God's like how you people
(31:21):
figure it out? Here's another lightning strike. Figure it out,
and we're working on it. But I'd like, I come.
I just have a few themes in my life that
have affected me personally.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
That I think affects all of us.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
And we have to face the facts that this isn't
a right or a left battle. This is a crisis
of humanity. What we're doing to our kids. And yes,
it has its tentacles of money and greed.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
How is it that the.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Rise of mental illness in America.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
Has so shuts like the debt curve that you've even
looking at it, like, oh, America's.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Gone off the deep end with our debt trillions and
trillions and trillions of trillions and trillions. Oh yeah, we've
got our stuff together America financially. Sure have you seen
the debt curve? Well, the mental illness curve is the
same thing. Okay, my favorite thing. I this is a
total pause. In twenty twenty with this whole stupid COVID world.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
We went through.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
I made a bumper sticker from my car and it
said we flattened the Freedom Curve, and somebody got so
pissed that they scraped it off my car. A couple
of months later, they couldn't handle the truth, could write
because Fauci was like, we have to flatten the curve.
Two weeks to flatten the curve, and I was like, well,
we flattened a curve. It wasn't the COVID curve. It
(32:56):
was the freedom curve. Okay, I'm sorry. So the mental
illness curve has gone off the charts. Why is that. Well,
if the drugs that were giving everyone as treatment, take
this and you'll feel better.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
You need this.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
If that was working, don't you think it would be
the inverse curve, And it's not.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
It's off the charts.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Sixty six million Americans probably more because that was a
twenty twenty two stat are on one or more mood
altering antipsychotic antidepressant.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
You get the picture.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Drugs that permanently alter the chemistry in your brain. It
was probably fine in the first place, but you go
on the drugs, just like if you become an addict
cocaine or meth or you name it.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
You permanently change.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
The structure of the function of your brain and becomes
dependent upon those substances. And we've done this to ourselves
and we're doing it to our kids, and it's killing me.
So again, Anatomy of an Epidemic. This is by Robert Whittaker.
I'm halfway through this book.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
This again. I think if you.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
Takes this book is so heavily annotated and like the
back you know there. I love it when a book
is like you like the last fifth of the book
are the citations so heavily backed up by research and
hard and fast data and facts.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It's impressive. It's a very detailed book.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Therefore I only can do a couple pages of a time,
but I wanted to share. I'm gir, I have another
break to take. Am I going to be a good
girl and take my break? Or am I going to
plow right through it? I might plower right through it.
I want to quote a little bit from this book.
(35:07):
This is chapter nine, the Bipolar Boom. And you wonder
about as RFK talks about, and.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
We said, regulatory capture.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
We know there's a revolving door obviously between the regulators
and the industry.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
This goes for everything.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
This goes for a lot of different genres, but particularly
in big pharma and medicine. And he taught this author
was at the two thousand and eight Annual Meeting of
the American Psychiatric Association in DC.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Big you know.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
APA con whatever it is, big conference and big presentations.
Every day he's writing that told of the great advances
that lay ahead. The leaders of the APA regularly urged
the reporters and science writers and attendance to quote help
get the message out that psychiatric treatment works. And is effective,
(36:07):
and that our diseases are real diseases, just like cardiovascular
diseases and cancer. This is from the APA President, Carolyn Rabinowitz.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
We need to work together as partners so we can
get the word out to patients and families. The press
has an important role to play, explain the incoming president,
not a Logan's Stotland, because quote, the public is vulnerable
to misinformation. This is two thousand and eight. Everybody. She
urged reporters to quote help us inform the public that
(36:39):
psychiatric illness is real, psychiatric treatments work, and that our
data is as solid as in other areas of medicine. Okay,
so the author, and for brevity, I'm going to skip
through some of this again.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
This is from chapter nine. Robert Whitaker.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
He said, each day I would go for a stroll
in the exhibit hall, which I always enjoyed. Eli Lilly, Pfiser,
Bristol Myers, Squib and others. Other leading vendors of psychiatric
drugs had all had welcoming centers where if you were
a doctor, you could collect various trinkets and gifts. Pfisers
(37:18):
seemed to be the most popular as the psychiatrists could
pick up a new personalized gift each day, their names
printed on a mini flashlight one day and a mobile
phone charger than next. They could also win a gift
by playing a video game called the Physician's Race Challenge,
the pace of their virtual self racing towards the finish
line governed by how well they answered questions about the
(37:39):
wonders of Geodon as a treatment for their bipolar illness.
After playing that game, many lined up to have their
photos taken and stamped on a campaign button that said quote.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Best doctor on Earth.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
The best attended events of the conference, where the industry
sponsored symponesiums. At every breakfast, lunch, and dinner hour, the
doctor could enjoy a sumptuous free meal, which was then
followed by talks on the chosen topic. There were symposiums
on depression, ADHD, schizophrenia, and the prescribing of antipsychotics to
children and adolescents, and nearly all of the speakers hailed
(38:14):
from top academic schools. Okay, and I want to emphasize
this point. We'll finish this paragraph before I take my break.
So the book goes on to say the fact that
they were all being paid by the drug companies was
openly acknowledged, as the APA, as part of a new
disclosure policy, had published a chart listing all the ways
(38:35):
that pharmaceutical money flowed to these quote thought leaders. In
addition to receiving rich monies, most of the quote experts
served as consultants, on advisory boards and as members of
speakers bureaus. Thus you could see that Joseph Biederman, a
psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, who during the
nineteen nineties led the way in popularizing juvenile bipolar disorder,
(39:00):
received research grants from eight firms, acted as quote consultant
to nine, and served as a speaker for eight. His
long list of pharmaceutical clients was not all that unusual,
and at times speakers had to update their information in
the disclosure guide when they strove to the podium as
they had recently added another pharmaceutical company to their list
(39:21):
of clients. After Harvard Harvard Medical schools, Jeene Fraser dutifully
relayed such information at a symposium devoted to the merits
of putting children on multiple psychiatric drugs. She said, without
any hint apparent hint of irony, quote I hope you
find my presentation unbiased. You want a snicker in barf
(39:46):
at the same time. So this is the state of
again not limited to big pharma, big medicine, where there's
this major major crossover of ethics violations thereof and money
flowing both ways, and your children and your families are
(40:09):
at the expense.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
Okay, we will take our last quick break of the day.
I have the.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
If you guys could see the pages marked in this
book of like juicy quotes and tidbits and data that
I want to talk about you. Like I said, fifteen sixteen,
maybe seventeen hours more of Mama.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Bears to go.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All right, Kristin Hurley here Mama Bears Radio. I'll take
my last break and be right.
Speaker 4 (40:37):
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Speaker 2 (40:43):
We'll be right.
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Speaker 4 (41:33):
She couldn't have thinking this lassic craving.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
Who welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. My last precious
segment of the day. Actually, I put on a different
hat and at school's out drivetime show. For the next
two hours, I will be in the bomb shelter with
my crew here trying to be entertaining and less depressing.
Speaking of depression. I'm going to finish a little just
(42:06):
another little bit. So this book goes on to say,
this is a later chapter. As recently as nineteen eighty eight,
the year Prozac came to market, only one in two
hundred and fifty children under nineteen years of age in
the United States was taking an antidepressant. This was partially
due to a cultural belief that youth were naturally moody
(42:27):
and recovered quickly from depressive episodes, and partly because study
after study had shown that tricyclics, which is an earlier
version of antidepressants that was marketed, work no better than
a placebo in this age group.
Speaker 2 (42:39):
Quote.
Speaker 3 (42:39):
There's no escaping the fact that research studies certainly have
not supported the efficacy of a tricyclic antidepressant in treated
depressed adolescents. This is the Journal of Child and Adolescents
Psychopharmat Sorry Psychopharmacology editorial.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
In nineteen ninety.
Speaker 3 (42:56):
Two, however, when Prozac and the other SSRIs were brought
to and touted as wonder drugs, the prescribing of antidepressants
to children took off. The percentage of children so medicated
tripled between nineteen eighty eight and nineteen ninety four, and
by two thousand and two, one in every forty children
under nineteen years of age in the United States was
(43:16):
taking an antidepressant. Oh okay, so.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
I'm gonna skip ahead a little bit.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
During the course of the SSRI related lawsuits, right, one
in forty kids is on it.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
There's lawsuits.
Speaker 3 (43:32):
Expert witnesses for the plaintiffs, most notably David Healen England
and Peter Bragan in the United States, got a look
at some of the trial data to get these approved right,
and they observed that the drugs increased the suicide risk.
They spoke out about what they had found, with an
increasing number of anguished parents telling of how their children
had killed themselves after going on an SSRI. The FDA
(43:55):
was forced to hold hearing in two thousand and four
on this risk and four so long ago. But it
did happen. This is recent that in turn led to
a stunning admission by the FDA's Thomas Laffrin about the
drug's efficacy and children twelve pay attention here. Twelve of
the fifteen pediatric antidepressant trials that had been conducted had failed.
(44:20):
The FDA in fact, had rejected the applications of six
manufacturers seeking approval to sell their antidepressants to children. These
are sobering findings. Laufren confessed the FDA did not approve
Prozac for use in children, as two of the three
positive studies reviewed by Lafren had come from trials of
(44:42):
this drug. It did approve Prozac. Sorry, two of the
three okay. So out of fifteen studies twelve failed, there
were three left. Two of them were presented to the
FDA for approval for Prozac. But Eli Lilly simply had
(45:02):
been better at using biased trial designs to make it
appear that its drug worked. For example, in one of
the two Prozac trials, all of the children were initially
put on placebo for one week, and if they got
better during that period, they were excluded from the study.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
Whoops.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
This helped knock down the placebo response rate. Next, the
children who were randomized into prozac were evaluated for a week,
and only those who adapted well to the drug were
then enrolled in the study. This helped increase the drug
response rate. The book is full of such discussions of
(45:38):
the actual data. All right, America, we've got this. We're
gonna figure out We're gonna conquer all. I want to
leave everyone with a little message of hope. We got
schools out drive Time. Then we've got Henry Michelle in
Surfgates City, and then tonight at seven we have the
Cyt Crew from here in Santa Cruz. They have a
(45:59):
number of shows the summer, so we're gonna hear from
them at seven o'clock. All right, everybody, stay tuned, keep
your claws out. This is Mama Bears Radio, Kristin Hurley.
Here'll be back next week.
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