July 15, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
The California Mama Bears have been forced out of hibernation.
Fierce guardians of our future, Mama Bear's fights or parents' rights,
defense of the family and God given freedoms everywhere. You're
listening to Mama Bear's Radio with your host, The New Normal,
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Kristin Hurly.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
The New Normal is currently sick to her stomach. The
New Normal. Mama Bear just got a bill texted to
me for my daughter's car insurance.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, I want to die in puke.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
How is any kids supposed to support themselves these days? Uh? Okay,
I'll get into that in a minute. Welcome to Mama
Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here just dying for day to day.
I'm staring at a pay the full amount for six months.
My twenty one year old just got her billed a
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you know, another six months of car insurance. Oh boy,
we finally took her off the family policy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She lives out of state, so she got her own.
God gosh, and it's going up. That keeps going up,
with the actual actual.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Heck, America, we gotta get our crap together. Okay, I digress.
Welcome to Mama Bears Radio. Safe and Effective radio from
yours truly, Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Zero jabs and arms.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Maybe an occasional one aimed at your brain hopefully, But
other than that, we are just gold standard broadcasting over here,
a little bit of den cleaning. It's so nice when
I get an email occasionally from you out there.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I do enjoy the conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
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posted to podcast usually in a day or so, so
you can catch one if you missed an hour or whatever.
Sure with friends from my better moments. When I have
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a coup, there's like a good three minute stretch in
my two hours of radio show. You can passing along
for what that's worth. All right, everybody, Well it's just
us today. I don't have a guest today, so it's
two hours of my musings and babbling and the stream
of consciousness thought. So he's a little cathartic kind of
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fun again, I hope, as I've been saying.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
For four years now, guys, it's July.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It is four years of Mama Bear's radio and I
want to say, gosh, I need to look up the
exact date, but I think we might actually be like
t minus two weeks to my four year anniversary on
air as Mama Bear's Radio, and we've really been through
the mill, have been through the Ringer. Gosh, darn it
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if this world hasn't flipped on its head about fourteen times.
And the course of those four tumultuous and really fun years, Gosh,
if you were gonna pick, we really have seen it all,
and I have been here to do it all with
you all. I truly feel like I'm trying to be
a voice for everybody out there, men included, but particularly
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my sisterhood Mama Beerrors, particularly in the year the early
years boy so long ago, all the schools shut downs
and the total badlam mania of all of that, and
now we've all kind of grown through it and beyond it.
Really is, there's just like so much to tackle to
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sink our claws into and try to maintain a semblance
of normal life for our kids while we continue to
just face the battles and do what we can and
participate in self governed. So again, I feel like We've
all been through again. The ring are together and I'm
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still here on air. It ain't over, will it ever be?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Over.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm not so sure at this point. Do you feel like, okay,
eurly sidebar here, like and this is back okay, back
in that let's reminisce together because we have two hours,
so shall we.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Let's indulge ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like back in the day that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The super COVID shutdown, days when Gavin Newsom decided for
forty million of us that there was like a color
coding system to our counties and you qualified to move
into a different color bracket of privileges based on how
obedient and compliant you were with COVID rates and whatever
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the heck the metrics were. It was like they give
it and take it away, Gavin Newsom did with your
your county was privileged or not privileged based on whatever
metrics they decided. They woke up in the morning and
they're like, this is a good idea. Really mess with everyone.
But even back in that day when in the same breath,
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I and all of the rest of you were like,
how the f who the f do they think they
are and how can they do that? And there were
so many times in my mind where I was like wait.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But but but but but but but the Constitution isn't
there something called the Bill of Rights? What the stink?
And heck?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And you had to keep rectifying like what do they
think they are doing with?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But isn't that against the law?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And who's gonna come and arrest them for for denying
me my god given rights to like move about freely
and do what I want, go to the grocery store.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And there was a daily reckoning of what they can't
do this, they can't do this, they can't do this,
But they did, and they did and they did and Okay,
but my point is, like I kind of was back
in those days, and I used to tell my kids this, like, oh,
you know, it's the COVID right, because remember in the
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beginning when it was like the counts, like the national
COVID counts, and it was like, we're flattening the curve.
We're gonna flatten the curve. And I kept telling my
kids like, oh, you know, once it flattens out, or
maybe there would be like a slow day and the
COVID numbers you know, leveled out for a minute or whatever,
I'd be like, oh, look, we're levingling out. As soon
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as it goes back down, they'll let us out of
our houses or as soon as X happens, then we
get our life back. And there was always some sort
of like if we achieved this goal or if this happens,
then it'll poof all goes away and goes back to normal.
Like I'm still waiting for it to go back to normal, don't.
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I mean, do you guys feel like that that there
was like, oh, only if then that then you people
get your world back, or you get your freedoms back,
or you know, will open up, the will open up
the grocery stores or the churches or whatever it was.
And then it took so long to sort of kind
of happen, and it just has never like That's why
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I joke and I always say about myself. I were
the new normal. This is the new normal. We never
went back to life as it was before. And I've
at some point you stopped thinking, oh, well, when all this,
when people wake up and realize is this is really stupid,
then we're going to get back on the other train
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we were on, keep going with our lives that just
stinkin' well did not happen. All this to be said,
here we are as I reflect on you know, my
fourth year of Mama bear'sraid and being involved and just
taking on this completely new mantle than I never thought
I would, of participating in civic life and taking a
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responsibility and thinking, oh, shoot, you know, if I don't
step up, we all don't step up. You know, we're
heading towards the ruinous end. Of course we may be
headed there with despite our valiant efforts, but try to
forget about that. But we just we absolutely never got
off this crazy train collided universe that somehow, you know,
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we now we're moving somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It never went back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So in I suppose all that to be said, in
the spirit of all of that, I am still here.
There's there's this brave new world to share together, me
as kind of a voice in the thick of things,
and just trying to at least express my experience, your experience,
the cards laid out in front of us, the hills
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to climb, the battles to fight at the very very
stupid least, the you know, here's something to be aware of,
Like can we have a conversation about this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I mean, I feel like wrapping up this segment that
I have chatted my way through before we take.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A commercial break.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Here at the very least, what am I still doing
in front of the microphone? And again, I think I
just would like to reiterate it is an insane time
and place and despite all of the adult battles we
have to fight amongst ourselves and the overall existential disaster
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of what are we even all stink and doing here
in the first place? You get up in the morning.
It's bad enough. It's actually bad enough. You get up
in the morning and you're like, what's my purpose? And
what am I doing here? In in a normal given world?
You know, the world we used to live in that
was rough enough, but now it's that compounded with how
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do I possibly create a semblance of, you know, a
happy world for my kids without tainting to them freaking
them out too bad about.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
The state of the world.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
How do we just build for them a childhood or
a young adulthood that gives them a solid, happy state foundation.
I feel like us gen xers kind of had or
some sort of foundational stability about the world around you.
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Even if that was all just a farce, It totally
could have been, but it wasn't, you know, to a
larger extent than it is today. And so I think
in the umbrella of that the endeavor to continue to
raise our kids and them let them have the experience
of a world, in a nation, and then on a microscale,
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you know, a home that is not not in stable
and treacherous. I don't know what I'm trying to say,
that is happy and inspires them for their future, doesn't
make them all like depressed.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And like we all just like, what's the point? Who cares?
We're all at war with one another? With one another?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know, you've got to at least give your kids
a glimpse of what's real in life and love and
truth and family and stability, so that they are inspired
to carry themselves forward and carry the community forward and
the nation forward, and have goals and aspirations and again
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to contribute to our civic society and self governance and
carry our nation forward into something amazing and incredible, whether
that's going to.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Mars or not. I think, oh, where I see this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think it actually was my my one of my
favorite writers, Howard James Howard Counstler, who said this is
like his take on the Elon goes to Mars thing,
it's like, can we get our s together down here
on Earth before we go and like plague other planets
with all our bull crap like Mars. Fine, but it's
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not really working out that great right now here on Earth,
so I mean we should start down here.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
All right, Well, all.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That to be said, I do have tons to get
to today, so I will keep my little nose clean
and get down to business when we get back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
This is Kristin Hurley here, Mama Bears Radio. I'll be
right back Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome
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back to Mama Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I hope everybody had a fun Fourth of July. There
were a couple three more flags out and about in
my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Warms my heart.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some houses go nuts and they pull out all the
stops for flags and the banners and decor and all that.
And then I think it was last year one of
my neighbors had an upside down flag for the fourth and.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
July and upside and I remember going, oh, what the
you know what the actual hack people?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Anyways, but I have to say I am so sick
to death in my heart for the families in Texas.
Oh gosh, it's like you can't escape the images and
you know, floods like there was hurricanes last year or whatnot,
horrific images.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That the details and sort of the from my kid's.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Centric viewpoint as a mama bear, you just want to
throw up when it's it's stories of children in these terrible,
terrible scenes. And I think that that's kind of the
focus of the Texas situation in the floods, is the
children caught up in that and you and I literally
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want to puke it. It makes me super sick to
my stomach. And there's like chaos and tragedy of course
all the time. It could happen at any moment to any.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
One of us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Be ready to and cover at any moment out here
for the you know, we're really overdue for big earthquake.
I think about that every night when like my cat
jumps on the bed and the bed shakes a little.
I'm like, ah, is that it nothing is guaranteed and
and it just is is sad that over the whole
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a weekend there's a kind of the juxtaposition of terrible
tragedy and pain and suffering, especially like I said, kids
centric Lee and so.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I don't know, all roads just lead to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
One needing to be you know, ready, your heart be
better oriented, get out of your head and your stupid
power trips, and turn it over to God and be
and live your life for you know what God is
leading you to to help and love one another and
quit with all the bs, the daily strife and bs.
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Maybe this is why the gen z ers are getting
a little more faith centric. I have an article about
that I want to bring to everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Today that's like it's like so many things can be
true all at once.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's like and my husband and I were just talking
about those this weekend, and you know, in any relationship,
it's like you can say these statements that are true
and then say the exact total op it that's also true.
You know many It's like in the I don't know,
whole globe or multi multi variable, faceted existence we live in,
there's a lot of sort of same things happening. So
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I think at the same time, like there's pulling out
that says like gen Z they're like the least proud,
they have the least pride and national pride in America
whatever that stat is.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
At the same time.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Though, the pendulum is swinging back, and there are data,
there's data that says that they are turning more to
God and Church and seeking out real truth in their lives,
probably because they've been drowning and inundated in the muck.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But just to keep going here in a little bit
of the July fourth spirit.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We had maybe had some hot dogs, maybe you had
some beer, maybe had a little bit of time for
self reflection a little bit this weekend, and I cannot
help myself when it indulge us all in just a
little bit of inspirational stuff that was crossing my mind,
of course. And then there's a lovely little piece very
wise from the Free Press was talking in an article
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about the snake the Madsten flagged the Join or Die.
It's the Madston flag, right, but the snake pieces representing
the colonies originally, And this was something actually I didn't
know this drawn by Benjamin Franklin in for his newspaper,
which was one of only maybe fourteen or fifteen or
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something in the colonies back in his day, and he
actually drew this. It's like an early day meme, the snake,
the fractured snake, and it was I think the quote
under that was join or die or unite or die.
They had kind of a couple of different phrases to
go with it. It was reprinted in a bunch of
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the different papers.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was originally, yeah, printed in the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Gazette,
one of fifteen newspapers in the American colonies at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And you know, this was actually pre American Revolution. This
was I think in the time of the French and
Indian War.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Sorry, was an earlier skirmish than the American Revolution, but
it stood the test of time. I think it was
something yeah, the French and Indian War. It sort of
continued on as a symbol for the colonies that we
need to unite together here in times of conflict or
that we're all perish. And this meme, this theme, this
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meme lasted and stood all the way through. It was
a couple of decades before the Revolution. So Barry Weiss
is reflecting on this cartoon and she says, we are
no longer thirteen colonies. The snake was made whole and
became eplerbusunum out of many one by the founders in
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seventeen seventy six, it was given a new birth of
freedom by Abraham Lincoln at the cost of three hundred
and sixty thousand Union soldiers and countless Southern lives.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Obviously, it's been through a lot, so, she says.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The culture has changed, the country has changed, the world
has changed, and yet that image from the seventeen hundreds
feels eerily contemporary. She says, I find it impossible to
look at that snake and not see America in twenty
twenty five, fractured once more. We are not divided by
a foreign enemy, though they've done their fair share to
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amplify our divisions. This time, we've been torn up by
ideologues and demagogues. Right here at home today, there are
those who tell us that we are not in fact
a single people, but rather disparate tribes whose i identities
put us at odds with one another.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Forever.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They've divided us not into colonies or states or physical territories,
but into identity groups and political factions vying for power
and control. Some of these people would have us believe
that our nation does not belong to its citizens, whether
they arrived on slave ships or the Mayflower, or as
huddled masses yearning to breathe free, but only to a
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certain ethnic mix, deemed quote heritage. That America wasn't a
nation built around an idea, the very nature of our exceptionalism,
but we are just another country based on blood and soil.
Others fixate on the hypocrisies woven through our history, losing
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sight of the brilliance of the American idea and its
transcendent recognition of unalienable rights, as they insist we are unexceptional.
They argue that America's promise can never be perfectly fulfilled
and so has to be abandoned, or that the success
freedom brings is evil, and that we need to suffocate
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individual liberty to guarantee equity. The effect of these illiberal
ideologies is the same. They have sliced up the snake
once more from the one many an inverted American revolution.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Dang it if that's not accurate. We all feel it.
It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's ridiculous that our children learning kindergarten.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That, well, we're all categorized differently.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
That one's that, and this one's that, and you you're
the cause of all of the pain and suffering of
the other groups. That's the messaging noon. No wonder the
kids are nuts these days. So Barry ends the article
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with this. She says, so on this Independence Day, we
don't just celebrate the birthday of the words that made us.
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all
men are created equal, that they're endowed by their creator
with certain unalienable rights. But the choice to live by
them two and a half centuries later, and I just
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think it's it is a choice at this point. It
was a choice for the founding fathers give up, They
give things up for a better ideal, to unite the
colonies together, to reject the tyranny, to reject everything that
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up to that point was accepted as society and government
and rulers and the ruled, and they were. It is
a revolutionary war in so many ways, complete revolution of
thought and philosophy. And you know, so daring, And I
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think the proof is in the pudding. For so many
years of fantastic success, it ain't perfect, but we are
stinking humans, so that should be patently obvious that we're
gonna muck it up. But on the hole in the
aggregate for two hundred and forty nine years now, pushing
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on through it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
At two hundred and fifty we have been as one.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Where we are, we are the cause of that fractured
snake coming rearing. It's it's bloody headed us. And I
reject that. I reject that completely. And we as a
Mama Bear and and as citizens here, it is our
job to reunite ourselves together and stop the madness.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So with that to be said, what are we gonna
do for the next hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We're gonna talk about the fracturing, talk about all of
ourselves tearing one another apart, and sort of the daily
soap opera of trying to work through it and put
the pieces back together. Okay, everybody, Well, I'm Kristin Hurley.
This is Mama Bear's Radio. I will take my break
and be back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back times home.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You're afraid to pay the feet, so you find yourself
somebody you can do the job free when you mean
the bed of love because your man is that it
sounds that's the time you getting me running.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And you know I'll be around. Welcome back to Mama
Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Kristin Hurley here anyway, doing the dirty work over here,
but I love it and it's so much fun to
be on air and continuing to do Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Four years later.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Holy cow, A lot of words, a lot of complaining. Okay, Well,
back to the matter at hand. I didn't get to
this last week, even though it had the Supreme Court
decision had come down, right, we had two whoppers with
respect to as I say, kids centric goggles on, I've
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got my kid goggles on, or my you.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Know, very narrow minded like.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's what I'm interested in, is anything that's going to
touch children, parents' rights, prospering our posterity. And so I
didn't get to this though the Taylor versus mom Mood
Supreme Court decision we dealt with scrimtti, which was, you know,
it's kind of like chopping, the chopping off of the
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body parts of our children. And this is back to
just straight up are the parents raising the kids or
is the state raising the kids? And in case you
don't know the background, I'll go super quick on this one.
This was a bunch of parents in Maryland from a
cross section of religious beliefs. There were a number of
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different families that in the suit against this particular district.
The district had disallowed this, the parents from opting out
of curriculum that they found inappropriate or went against their
faith and religious beliefs, and the school was like, no,
your kids have to be here to read the dirty
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pornographic books.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And so the parents sued.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Of course, it wound its way through the courts and
found its way to the Supreme Court, who said, okay, yeah,
the parents. You know, the parents get to decide, thank
you very much. Kind of a no dabt. But in
this day and age, anything can happen here. So this
was a very clear.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Ruling. The decision.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Was very clear that the judges see through the woke
crap of the state is in charge of your children,
and we're going to stuff. We're going to stop discussing
stuff down their throats and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
There's there's a couple of interesting perspectives about this case
I wanted to bring up, and but the first one
is I have this interesting like, okay, fine, you can
opt out of stuff at schools that under a religious
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belief exemption.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
This goes against my faith.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It has to be your excuse, And I'm asking this
as a question and my husband and I were just
talking about this the other day actually, because I was like,
when are.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
We gonna get out of California? And he's like, but
I was born here. I love it here.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm like, ah, you know, I there are as we
travel down the road, like I can't in good faith
tell my children, oh yeah, raise a family here in California.
It's so so conducive to family life and protecting your children.
This is like it's getting nuttier as we go, and
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I want to boot my kids out for my grandkids's sake.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But what would it take to keep me here?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What would it take for me to look my kids
in the eye and be like, Okay, you know you,
if you choose to stay in California, it's like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Fair enough grounds to do so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Namely, and one of them, as I told my husband,
was if somehow either nationally, and my husband's always he's
so glass half full.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
He's always like, we're going to take California back. But
until that day, mister J.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Hurley, you know, we depend a little bit upon the
sanity at the national level to help rest back some
of the crazy as we've seen in this tailor versus
my mood decision from the Supreme Court. Furthermore, the Title
nine protection that are coming out, and just a number
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of things.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
At the federal level, even though we don't you know, should.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Not be dependent on a federal government for the end
all be all right, we are the United States.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm a states rights kind of a person.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But when you know the states have gone so far
afield as this particular one that we live in has
and is seriously treading on our personal liberties and stuff,
you know that that's when it, I don't know, everything
good principles be damned out the door. But the both
of Hooyne is is you know, we snuck by in
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a particular time with our young kids where in full
you know, full disclosure here, they did get some childhood
vaccinations back when it was kind of like just.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The thing you did.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Although I had enough, you know, enough of prescience of mind,
I guess is the word or not a little bit
of a suspicion then where you know, they didn't get
them right away. I waited until they were older. We
sort of spaced them out. There were less jobs required
to go to school in the first place, and then
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you know I sort of picked and chose what I
wanted them to get and when, and they didn't get
them all. And when my kids were enrolled in public, public,
charter school, and then even sort of later on, I
remember distinctly at my charter school signing the exemption papers
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that yeah, my kids only had a partial, partial job schedule,
and I signed the little papers that said this is
my choice and enroll my kids anyways, mofo in parentheses.
I didn't say that, but it was like like nothing,
like this school secretary was says, oh, no, no, no,
you're missing some here and so here, and I go, okay,
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well they're not going to get a Well here's your
exemption form, fill it out. And I signed it and
never thought twice. And you know, the daughters never got
the thing, you know, at thirteen or whatever they were
supposed to get. It was like by then I was like, no,
I did some that I felt was right, and that
is my choice.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But but the gates, the gates were closing shortly thereafter.
Obviously the state did you know was two seven seven
two seven six whatever the legislation was that closed off
that option for parents and families, and now it is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Talk about join or die.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It is jab or die in terms of personal in
terms of freedom for your kids, and not all, not
all school children in California are treated equally. There are classes,
there are privileged classes. If you have complied, then you
are allowed to public school education. If you don't comply,
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You don't get that. How that possibly flies as equality
or excuse me? Equity of course is a different word.
But how that flies under civil liberty protection? It makes
me shudder. In fact, I have an article I didn't
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get to this last week. Let me see if it's
still here in my pile. Excuse me. Barring teens with
medical exemptions from classrooms increases suicide risk.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
So you want to talk about harming kids.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And teen mental health, Well, tell them they can't go
to school like all their other friends because they're in
a subclass among us here because they didn't comply or
their parents didn't comply. And this is for you know,
at this point, it is the rare and the few
that have an actual medical exemption.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Doctors don't give those out.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But in the instances when a kid does have an exemption,
they are treated differently still and it increases the the
you know, the their mental health. Of course, you're not
as good as everyone else. You have a set there's
a separate set of rules for you, is the message. Okay,
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But back to the mattered hand. On one hand, I'm stoked. Okay, cool.
The Supreme Court decided in favor that parents have jurisdiction
over the raising of their kids and the content that
their kids are exposed to at school.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
However, do they really have to.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Approach this under the First Amendment religious beliefs umbrella?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Why do why does it have to fall under? Well,
I have my religious beliefs are such, therefore.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
My kid I can pull my kid out of whatever
lesson or whatever, you know, exposure to whatever it is
that's happening. Isn't that a fresh, new, brand new protected class.
Shouldn't we all have the ability, for whatever stupid dang
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reason we want, exempt our kids or opt out. If
if there's true parent jurisdiction over your children, why do
you have to claim religious belief in order to enjoy
that protected status? So I really it's like, if you
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take one more step down the rabbit hole of this,
I just have a little bit of an issue of
if I were to want to pull my kids out
for some reason, any reason, I'm I am a free
person under the Bill of Rights, the Constitution of the
United States, presuming.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
That still all exists.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But you know, under that, guys, under that umbrella, like
why do I have to say, Well, it's my religious
faith that exempt that that grants me this ability. And
if you don't have that, you gotta lie and say that.
You know, maybe you don't go to church, maybe you
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don't have a particular religious faith or whatever, but your
common sense enough to know that kindergarteners should not be
reading pornography in the classroom, and you got to you
gotta like lie and pretend like, oh, it goes against
my faith, pull my kid out.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
So I have a little bit of a m how
you know, yay, But dot dot dot.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Maybe we need to take this conversation one step further
as a free people.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
How is it then that again we're left with this.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Class system, right or a little bit there's a little
bit of a differentiation happening here that if we're pure
at heart about parents' rights, I'm not sure we need
that distinction, and that goes for everything, Like I'm not
sure if finishing my thought process about California and my
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future grandchildren, which I am planning for.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
My kids are like, oh barf mom.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
But you know, I was saying to my husband, well, okay,
if there were a national a national protection on families
that states that, right, there are some states where you
do not need to have all seventy two seventy nine.
I mean, by the time I have grandkids, two hundred
different shots in ours and before they let you into
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public education, which is taxpayer funded, is free for everyone.
If there was a national movement to protect families and
students and parents that you don't have to have be
in total stupid compliance with the excuse me, lobbyist funded
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laws that say you need to take these products into
your bodies or else. If there were national protections about that,
and my children could choose on their own, as a
free people, to inject their children with substances or not,
and then they still were offered a quality public education
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I said, quality and tongue in cheek, just like everyone else,
then then maybe I, you know, would have less reservations
about raising families in California. But okay, I do want
to get to my mood versus Taylor just a little bit,
So we're gonna delve more into that after I come
back from the break. But I did want to point
that out, like, on one hand, we celebrate, on the
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other hand, it's there's still a lot of nuances out there.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
This is not a solve all policy. It's a good one.
It's helping us out, Thank you Supreme Court. But anyways,
more to do as usual. Okay, Mama Bear's Radio, Kristin
Hurley here, I'll be right back Mama Bear's Radio. We'll
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be right back.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, the
new normal. Just slogging my way through the new normal
every day here. Oh it's four years. I'm just gonna
stop saying. Almost four years. Four years Mama Bear's Radio.
This month very exciting.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Okay, So this is from the Federalist. I want to
cram this in.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Before the top of the hour because I have other
stuff I want to talk about. But hiding the as
we're talking about Taylor v. MA Mood, the Supreme Court
decision that came out a couple weeks ago. Hiding beneath
this religious exercise challenge, however, that writes the Federalist is
an issue whose day has come. The very question of
parental rights and who controls the formation of children. Ma
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Mood reveals the two very different views of the role
of parents and of government institutions like public schools in
the formation and education of kids. So, Justice Alito's majority
opinion clearly recognizes the primary right of parents to form
their children, especially in matters of religious belief quote. A
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government burdens the religious exercise of parents when it requires
them to submit their children to instruction that poses quote
a very real threat of undermining the religious beliefs and
practices that the parents wish to instill. And a government
cannot condition the benefit of free public education on parents'
acceptance of such instruction. And in this traditional view, parents
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decide the beliefs and practice that children will be exposed to,
and schools cannot override these decisions. Okay, But Justice So
to Mayor's dissent, pains a very different picture.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Here's the opposite side of the coin.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Public schools, she says, this court has said, are quote
at once the symbol of our democracy and the most
pervasive means for promoting our common destiny. They offered to
children of all faiths and backgrounds, an education and an
opportunity to practice living in our multicultural society. That experience
is critical to our nation's civic vitality. Yet it will
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become a mere memory if children must be insulated from
exposure to ideas and concepts that may conflict with their
parents' religious beliefs. Today's ruling ushers in that new reality. Okay, oh,
so much to break down about this, But this is
about what the federalist says, and there's some good stuff
in here, so hang on with me. There are two
problematic strains of thought here. First, the dissent in visions
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public schools, not parents, as the primary means which children
are formed. The opinion speaks as if schools, not families,
are the fundamental way that children are introduced.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
To society and taught how to be citizens.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
This view has become prevalent on the left today and
has made its way all the way up to the
Supreme Court. Second, Sodo Mayor unbelievably speaks as if her
view is the traditional and accepted one. In Sodo Mayor's world,
states are the primary formers of children, and the idea
that parents, rather than the schools, may decide the ideas
to which their children are exposed ushers end quote a
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new reality. Oh, that's a new way of doing things,
she thinks. Parents making these decisions, of course, does not
usher in a new reality, but restores it to the
way which societies have always functioned. So to my or's
rewriting of history acts as if parents being the primary caregivers, educators,
and decision makers for their children is a novelty rather
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than a natural reality. I'm going to skip ahead here
a little bit from William Blackstone to John Adams and
Thomas Jefferson. The founding era Anglo American legal tradition clearly
affirmed that parents have the primary duty to protect, care for,
and educate their children, and because rights them from duties,
parental rights over children are indeed natural rights. So why
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wasn't this idea constitutionalized? Perhaps simply because it wasn't necessary.
Why does our modern society require explicit laws protecting parental
rights Because there are state run institutions that now compete
with parents for the care, control, and education of the children.
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Those institutions largely did not exist at the time of
the Founding in anything like their current form. There was
no fear of mandatory public education overriding the decisions and
desires of parents because there was no mandatory public education.
There were no professionalized police forces examining claims of child
abuse or neglect, no child protective service agencies. There were
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no mandated reporter laws encouraging people to report parents for
a violating the secular orthodoxy of the day in the
ways that they raise and educate their kids. In the
era of the American Founding, there was a great concern
for freedom of speech, religion and assembly, and the press
to protect a robust public discourse and a healthy citizenry.
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There was a fear of standing armies and therefore desire
to maintain an armed populace. The abuses of the British
government led to protections and against unreasonable searches and seizures,
cruel and unusual punishment, trials without juries. But in that
monumental historical moment, there was no conceivable threat to parents
caring for and educating their children properly and freely. Therefore,
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it is unsurprising that parents' rights did not find their
way into the legal text and acted enacted during the
American Founding.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
All right, I'm at the top.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Of the hour here, guys, We're going to keep going
with Mama Bear's Radio for one more hour.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Everybody's stay tuned. This is Mama Bear's Radio. I'll be
right back.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
It is
Speaker 2 (45:52):
K O M y la Salva Beach and the Monterey
Bay home of Schoolhouse Radio.
The California Mama Bears have been forced out of hibernation.
Fierce guardians of our future, Mama Bear's fights or parents' rights,
defense of the family and God given freedoms everywhere. You're
listening to Mama Bear's Radio with your host, The New Normal,
(00:31):
Kristin Hurly.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
The New Normal is currently sick to her stomach. The
New Normal. Mama Bear just got a bill texted to
me for my daughter's car insurance.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Oh, I want to die in puke.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
How is any kids supposed to support themselves these days? Uh? Okay,
I'll get into that in a minute. Welcome to Mama
Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here just dying for day to day.
I'm staring at a pay the full amount for six months.
My twenty one year old just got her billed a
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you know, another six months of car insurance. Oh boy,
we finally took her off the family policy.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
She lives out of state, so she got her own.
God gosh, and it's going up. That keeps going up,
with the actual actual.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Heck, America, we gotta get our crap together. Okay, I digress.
Welcome to Mama Bears Radio. Safe and Effective radio from
yours truly, Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Zero jabs and arms.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Maybe an occasional one aimed at your brain hopefully, But
other than that, we are just gold standard broadcasting over here,
a little bit of den cleaning. It's so nice when
I get an email occasionally from you out there.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I do enjoy the conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Mama Bears Radio at gmail dot com, m A m
A Bears Radio atmail dot com. And the episodes are
posted to podcast usually in a day or so, so
you can catch one if you missed an hour or whatever.
Sure with friends from my better moments. When I have
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a coup, there's like a good three minute stretch in
my two hours of radio show. You can passing along
for what that's worth. All right, everybody, Well it's just
us today. I don't have a guest today, so it's
two hours of my musings and babbling and the stream
of consciousness thought. So he's a little cathartic kind of
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fun again, I hope, as I've been saying.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
For four years now, guys, it's July.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
It is four years of Mama Bear's radio and I
want to say, gosh, I need to look up the
exact date, but I think we might actually be like
t minus two weeks to my four year anniversary on
air as Mama Bear's Radio, and we've really been through
the mill, have been through the Ringer. Gosh, darn it
(03:03):
if this world hasn't flipped on its head about fourteen times.
And the course of those four tumultuous and really fun years, Gosh,
if you were gonna pick, we really have seen it all,
and I have been here to do it all with
you all. I truly feel like I'm trying to be
a voice for everybody out there, men included, but particularly
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my sisterhood Mama Beerrors, particularly in the year the early
years boy so long ago, all the schools shut downs
and the total badlam mania of all of that, and
now we've all kind of grown through it and beyond it.
Really is, there's just like so much to tackle to
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sink our claws into and try to maintain a semblance
of normal life for our kids while we continue to
just face the battles and do what we can and
participate in self governed. So again, I feel like We've
all been through again. The ring are together and I'm
(04:06):
still here on air. It ain't over, will it ever be?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Over.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I'm not so sure at this point. Do you feel like, okay,
eurly sidebar here, like and this is back okay, back
in that let's reminisce together because we have two hours,
so shall we.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Let's indulge ourselves.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
But like back in the day that.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
The super COVID shutdown, days when Gavin Newsom decided for
forty million of us that there was like a color
coding system to our counties and you qualified to move
into a different color bracket of privileges based on how
obedient and compliant you were with COVID rates and whatever
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the heck the metrics were. It was like they give
it and take it away, Gavin Newsom did with your
your county was privileged or not privileged based on whatever
metrics they decided. They woke up in the morning and
they're like, this is a good idea. Really mess with everyone.
But even back in that day when in the same breath,
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I and all of the rest of you were like,
how the f who the f do they think they
are and how can they do that? And there were
so many times in my mind where I was like wait.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
But but but but but but but the Constitution isn't
there something called the Bill of Rights? What the stink?
And heck?
Speaker 2 (05:32):
And you had to keep rectifying like what do they
think they are doing with?
Speaker 3 (05:38):
But isn't that against the law?
Speaker 2 (05:42):
And who's gonna come and arrest them for for denying
me my god given rights to like move about freely
and do what I want, go to the grocery store.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Or whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
And there was a daily reckoning of what they can't
do this, they can't do this, they can't do this,
But they did, and they did and they did and Okay,
but my point is, like I kind of was back
in those days, and I used to tell my kids this, like, oh,
you know, it's the COVID right, because remember in the
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beginning when it was like the counts, like the national
COVID counts, and it was like, we're flattening the curve.
We're gonna flatten the curve. And I kept telling my
kids like, oh, you know, once it flattens out, or
maybe there would be like a slow day and the
COVID numbers you know, leveled out for a minute or whatever,
I'd be like, oh, look, we're levingling out. As soon
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as it goes back down, they'll let us out of
our houses or as soon as X happens, then we
get our life back. And there was always some sort
of like if we achieved this goal or if this happens,
then it'll poof all goes away and goes back to normal.
Like I'm still waiting for it to go back to normal, don't.
(07:01):
I mean, do you guys feel like that that there
was like, oh, only if then that then you people
get your world back, or you get your freedoms back,
or you know, will open up, the will open up
the grocery stores or the churches or whatever it was.
And then it took so long to sort of kind
of happen, and it just has never like That's why
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I joke and I always say about myself. I were
the new normal. This is the new normal. We never
went back to life as it was before. And I've
at some point you stopped thinking, oh, well, when all this,
when people wake up and realize is this is really stupid,
then we're going to get back on the other train
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we were on, keep going with our lives that just
stinkin' well did not happen. All this to be said,
here we are as I reflect on you know, my
fourth year of Mama bear'sraid and being involved and just
taking on this completely new mantle than I never thought
I would, of participating in civic life and taking a
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responsibility and thinking, oh, shoot, you know, if I don't
step up, we all don't step up. You know, we're
heading towards the ruinous end. Of course we may be
headed there with despite our valiant efforts, but try to
forget about that. But we just we absolutely never got
off this crazy train collided universe that somehow, you know,
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we now we're moving somewhere else.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
It never went back.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
So in I suppose all that to be said, in
the spirit of all of that, I am still here.
There's there's this brave new world to share together, me
as kind of a voice in the thick of things,
and just trying to at least express my experience, your experience,
the cards laid out in front of us, the hills
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to climb, the battles to fight at the very very
stupid least, the you know, here's something to be aware of,
Like can we have a conversation about this?
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Did you know?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
I mean, I feel like wrapping up this segment that
I have chatted my way through before we take.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
A commercial break.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Here at the very least, what am I still doing
in front of the microphone? And again, I think I
just would like to reiterate it is an insane time
and place and despite all of the adult battles we
have to fight amongst ourselves and the overall existential disaster
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of what are we even all stink and doing here
in the first place? You get up in the morning.
It's bad enough. It's actually bad enough. You get up
in the morning and you're like, what's my purpose? And
what am I doing here? In in a normal given world?
You know, the world we used to live in that
was rough enough, but now it's that compounded with how
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do I possibly create a semblance of, you know, a
happy world for my kids without tainting to them freaking
them out too bad about.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
The state of the world.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
How do we just build for them a childhood or
a young adulthood that gives them a solid, happy state foundation.
I feel like us gen xers kind of had or
some sort of foundational stability about the world around you.
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Even if that was all just a farce, It totally
could have been, but it wasn't, you know, to a
larger extent than it is today. And so I think
in the umbrella of that the endeavor to continue to
raise our kids and them let them have the experience
of a world, in a nation, and then on a microscale,
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you know, a home that is not not in stable
and treacherous. I don't know what I'm trying to say,
that is happy and inspires them for their future, doesn't
make them all like depressed.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
And like we all just like, what's the point? Who cares?
We're all at war with one another? With one another?
Speaker 2 (11:26):
You know, you've got to at least give your kids
a glimpse of what's real in life and love and
truth and family and stability, so that they are inspired
to carry themselves forward and carry the community forward and
the nation forward, and have goals and aspirations and again
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to contribute to our civic society and self governance and
carry our nation forward into something amazing and incredible, whether
that's going to.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Mars or not. I think, oh, where I see this.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think it actually was my my one of my
favorite writers, Howard James Howard Counstler, who said this is
like his take on the Elon goes to Mars thing,
it's like, can we get our s together down here
on Earth before we go and like plague other planets
with all our bull crap like Mars. Fine, but it's
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not really working out that great right now here on Earth,
so I mean we should start down here.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
All right, Well, all.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
That to be said, I do have tons to get
to today, so I will keep my little nose clean
and get down to business when we get back.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
This is Kristin Hurley here, Mama Bears Radio. I'll be
right back Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back. Welcome
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back to Mama Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
I hope everybody had a fun Fourth of July. There
were a couple three more flags out and about in
my neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Warms my heart.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Some houses go nuts and they pull out all the
stops for flags and the banners and decor and all that.
And then I think it was last year one of
my neighbors had an upside down flag for the fourth and.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
July and upside and I remember going, oh, what the
you know what the actual hack people?
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Anyways, but I have to say I am so sick
to death in my heart for the families in Texas.
Oh gosh, it's like you can't escape the images and
you know, floods like there was hurricanes last year or whatnot,
horrific images.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
That the details and sort of the from my kid's.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Centric viewpoint as a mama bear, you just want to
throw up when it's it's stories of children in these terrible,
terrible scenes. And I think that that's kind of the
focus of the Texas situation in the floods, is the
children caught up in that and you and I literally
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want to puke it. It makes me super sick to
my stomach. And there's like chaos and tragedy of course
all the time. It could happen at any moment to any.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
One of us.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Be ready to and cover at any moment out here
for the you know, we're really overdue for big earthquake.
I think about that every night when like my cat
jumps on the bed and the bed shakes a little.
I'm like, ah, is that it nothing is guaranteed and
and it just is is sad that over the whole
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a weekend there's a kind of the juxtaposition of terrible
tragedy and pain and suffering, especially like I said, kids
centric Lee and so.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
I don't know, all roads just lead to.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
One needing to be you know, ready, your heart be
better oriented, get out of your head and your stupid
power trips, and turn it over to God and be
and live your life for you know what God is
leading you to to help and love one another and
quit with all the bs, the daily strife and bs.
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Maybe this is why the gen z ers are getting
a little more faith centric. I have an article about
that I want to bring to everybody.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Today that's like it's like so many things can be
true all at once.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's like and my husband and I were just talking
about those this weekend, and you know, in any relationship,
it's like you can say these statements that are true
and then say the exact total op it that's also true.
You know many It's like in the I don't know,
whole globe or multi multi variable, faceted existence we live in,
there's a lot of sort of same things happening. So
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I think at the same time, like there's pulling out
that says like gen Z they're like the least proud,
they have the least pride and national pride in America
whatever that stat is.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
At the same time.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Though, the pendulum is swinging back, and there are data,
there's data that says that they are turning more to
God and Church and seeking out real truth in their lives,
probably because they've been drowning and inundated in the muck.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
But just to keep going here in a little bit
of the July fourth spirit.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
We had maybe had some hot dogs, maybe you had
some beer, maybe had a little bit of time for
self reflection a little bit this weekend, and I cannot
help myself when it indulge us all in just a
little bit of inspirational stuff that was crossing my mind,
of course. And then there's a lovely little piece very
wise from the Free Press was talking in an article
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about the snake the Madsten flagged the Join or Die.
It's the Madston flag, right, but the snake pieces representing
the colonies originally, And this was something actually I didn't
know this drawn by Benjamin Franklin in for his newspaper,
which was one of only maybe fourteen or fifteen or
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something in the colonies back in his day, and he
actually drew this. It's like an early day meme, the snake,
the fractured snake, and it was I think the quote
under that was join or die or unite or die.
They had kind of a couple of different phrases to
go with it. It was reprinted in a bunch of
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the different papers.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Let's see.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It was originally, yeah, printed in the Pennsylvania Pennsylvania Gazette,
one of fifteen newspapers in the American colonies at the time.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
And you know, this was actually pre American Revolution. This
was I think in the time of the French and
Indian War.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Sorry, was an earlier skirmish than the American Revolution, but
it stood the test of time. I think it was
something yeah, the French and Indian War. It sort of
continued on as a symbol for the colonies that we
need to unite together here in times of conflict or
that we're all perish. And this meme, this theme, this
(18:44):
meme lasted and stood all the way through. It was
a couple of decades before the Revolution. So Barry Weiss
is reflecting on this cartoon and she says, we are
no longer thirteen colonies. The snake was made whole and
became eplerbusunum out of many one by the founders in
(19:09):
seventeen seventy six, it was given a new birth of
freedom by Abraham Lincoln at the cost of three hundred
and sixty thousand Union soldiers and countless Southern lives.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Obviously, it's been through a lot, so, she says.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
The culture has changed, the country has changed, the world
has changed, and yet that image from the seventeen hundreds
feels eerily contemporary. She says, I find it impossible to
look at that snake and not see America in twenty
twenty five, fractured once more. We are not divided by
a foreign enemy, though they've done their fair share to
(19:47):
amplify our divisions. This time, we've been torn up by
ideologues and demagogues. Right here at home today, there are
those who tell us that we are not in fact
a single people, but rather disparate tribes whose i identities
put us at odds with one another.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Forever.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
They've divided us not into colonies or states or physical territories,
but into identity groups and political factions vying for power
and control. Some of these people would have us believe
that our nation does not belong to its citizens, whether
they arrived on slave ships or the Mayflower, or as
huddled masses yearning to breathe free, but only to a
(20:25):
certain ethnic mix, deemed quote heritage. That America wasn't a
nation built around an idea, the very nature of our exceptionalism,
but we are just another country based on blood and soil.
Others fixate on the hypocrisies woven through our history, losing
(20:46):
sight of the brilliance of the American idea and its
transcendent recognition of unalienable rights, as they insist we are unexceptional.
They argue that America's promise can never be perfectly fulfilled
and so has to be abandoned, or that the success
freedom brings is evil, and that we need to suffocate
(21:07):
individual liberty to guarantee equity. The effect of these illiberal
ideologies is the same. They have sliced up the snake
once more from the one many an inverted American revolution.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Dang it if that's not accurate. We all feel it.
It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
It's ridiculous that our children learning kindergarten.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
That, well, we're all categorized differently.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
That one's that, and this one's that, and you you're
the cause of all of the pain and suffering of
the other groups. That's the messaging noon. No wonder the
kids are nuts these days. So Barry ends the article
(22:04):
with this. She says, so on this Independence Day, we
don't just celebrate the birthday of the words that made us.
We hold these truths to be self evident, that all
men are created equal, that they're endowed by their creator
with certain unalienable rights. But the choice to live by
them two and a half centuries later, and I just
(22:29):
think it's it is a choice at this point. It
was a choice for the founding fathers give up, They
give things up for a better ideal, to unite the
colonies together, to reject the tyranny, to reject everything that
(22:53):
up to that point was accepted as society and government
and rulers and the ruled, and they were. It is
a revolutionary war in so many ways, complete revolution of
thought and philosophy. And you know, so daring, And I
(23:22):
think the proof is in the pudding. For so many
years of fantastic success, it ain't perfect, but we are
stinking humans, so that should be patently obvious that we're
gonna muck it up. But on the hole in the
aggregate for two hundred and forty nine years now, pushing
(23:43):
on through it.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
At two hundred and fifty we have been as one.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Where we are, we are the cause of that fractured
snake coming rearing. It's it's bloody headed us. And I
reject that. I reject that completely. And we as a
Mama Bear and and as citizens here, it is our
job to reunite ourselves together and stop the madness.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
So with that to be said, what are we gonna
do for the next hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
We're gonna talk about the fracturing, talk about all of
ourselves tearing one another apart, and sort of the daily
soap opera of trying to work through it and put
the pieces back together. Okay, everybody, Well, I'm Kristin Hurley.
This is Mama Bear's Radio. I will take my break
and be back in just a minute.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back times home.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
You're afraid to pay the feet, so you find yourself
somebody you can do the job free when you mean
the bed of love because your man is that it
sounds that's the time you getting me running.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
And you know I'll be around. Welcome back to Mama
Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Kristin Hurley here anyway, doing the dirty work over here,
but I love it and it's so much fun to
be on air and continuing to do Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Four years later.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Holy cow, A lot of words, a lot of complaining. Okay, Well,
back to the matter at hand. I didn't get to
this last week, even though it had the Supreme Court
decision had come down, right, we had two whoppers with
respect to as I say, kids centric goggles on, I've
(26:09):
got my kid goggles on, or my you.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Know, very narrow minded like.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
That's what I'm interested in, is anything that's going to
touch children, parents' rights, prospering our posterity. And so I
didn't get to this though the Taylor versus mom Mood
Supreme Court decision we dealt with scrimtti, which was, you know,
it's kind of like chopping, the chopping off of the
(26:34):
body parts of our children. And this is back to
just straight up are the parents raising the kids or
is the state raising the kids? And in case you
don't know the background, I'll go super quick on this one.
This was a bunch of parents in Maryland from a
cross section of religious beliefs. There were a number of
(26:58):
different families that in the suit against this particular district.
The district had disallowed this, the parents from opting out
of curriculum that they found inappropriate or went against their
faith and religious beliefs, and the school was like, no,
your kids have to be here to read the dirty
(27:19):
pornographic books.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
And so the parents sued.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Of course, it wound its way through the courts and
found its way to the Supreme Court, who said, okay, yeah,
the parents. You know, the parents get to decide, thank
you very much. Kind of a no dabt. But in
this day and age, anything can happen here. So this
was a very clear.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Ruling. The decision.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Was very clear that the judges see through the woke
crap of the state is in charge of your children,
and we're going to stuff. We're going to stop discussing
stuff down their throats and you can't do anything about it.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Anyways.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
There's there's a couple of interesting perspectives about this case
I wanted to bring up, and but the first one
is I have this interesting like, okay, fine, you can
opt out of stuff at schools that under a religious
(28:25):
belief exemption.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
This goes against my faith.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It has to be your excuse, And I'm asking this
as a question and my husband and I were just
talking about this the other day actually, because I was like,
when are.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
We gonna get out of California? And he's like, but
I was born here. I love it here.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm like, ah, you know, I there are as we
travel down the road, like I can't in good faith
tell my children, oh yeah, raise a family here in California.
It's so so conducive to family life and protecting your children.
This is like it's getting nuttier as we go, and
(29:04):
I want to boot my kids out for my grandkids's sake.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
But what would it take to keep me here?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
What would it take for me to look my kids
in the eye and be like, Okay, you know you,
if you choose to stay in California, it's like.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Fair enough grounds to do so.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Namely, and one of them, as I told my husband,
was if somehow either nationally, and my husband's always he's
so glass half full.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
He's always like, we're going to take California back. But
until that day, mister J.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Hurley, you know, we depend a little bit upon the
sanity at the national level to help rest back some
of the crazy as we've seen in this tailor versus
my mood decision from the Supreme Court. Furthermore, the Title
nine protection that are coming out, and just a number
(30:02):
of things.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
At the federal level, even though we don't you know, should.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Not be dependent on a federal government for the end
all be all right, we are the United States.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm a states rights kind of a person.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But when you know the states have gone so far
afield as this particular one that we live in has
and is seriously treading on our personal liberties and stuff,
you know that that's when it, I don't know, everything
good principles be damned out the door. But the both
of Hooyne is is you know, we snuck by in
(30:41):
a particular time with our young kids where in full
you know, full disclosure here, they did get some childhood
vaccinations back when it was kind of like just.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
The thing you did.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Although I had enough, you know, enough of prescience of mind,
I guess is the word or not a little bit
of a suspicion then where you know, they didn't get
them right away. I waited until they were older. We
sort of spaced them out. There were less jobs required
to go to school in the first place, and then
(31:14):
you know I sort of picked and chose what I
wanted them to get and when, and they didn't get
them all. And when my kids were enrolled in public, public,
charter school, and then even sort of later on, I
remember distinctly at my charter school signing the exemption papers
(31:36):
that yeah, my kids only had a partial, partial job schedule,
and I signed the little papers that said this is
my choice and enroll my kids anyways, mofo in parentheses.
I didn't say that, but it was like like nothing,
like this school secretary was says, oh, no, no, no,
you're missing some here and so here, and I go, okay,
(31:59):
well they're not going to get a Well here's your
exemption form, fill it out. And I signed it and
never thought twice. And you know, the daughters never got
the thing, you know, at thirteen or whatever they were
supposed to get. It was like by then I was like, no,
I did some that I felt was right, and that
is my choice.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Moving forward.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But but the gates, the gates were closing shortly thereafter.
Obviously the state did you know was two seven seven
two seven six whatever the legislation was that closed off
that option for parents and families, and now it is.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Talk about join or die.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
It is jab or die in terms of personal in
terms of freedom for your kids, and not all, not
all school children in California are treated equally. There are classes,
there are privileged classes. If you have complied, then you
are allowed to public school education. If you don't comply,
(32:58):
You don't get that. How that possibly flies as equality
or excuse me? Equity of course is a different word.
But how that flies under civil liberty protection? It makes
me shudder. In fact, I have an article I didn't
(33:21):
get to this last week. Let me see if it's
still here in my pile. Excuse me. Barring teens with
medical exemptions from classrooms increases suicide risk.
Speaker 3 (33:32):
So you want to talk about harming kids.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
And teen mental health, Well, tell them they can't go
to school like all their other friends because they're in
a subclass among us here because they didn't comply or
their parents didn't comply. And this is for you know,
at this point, it is the rare and the few
that have an actual medical exemption.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Doctors don't give those out.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
But in the instances when a kid does have an exemption,
they are treated differently still and it increases the the
you know, the their mental health. Of course, you're not
as good as everyone else. You have a set there's
a separate set of rules for you, is the message. Okay,
(34:18):
But back to the mattered hand. On one hand, I'm stoked. Okay, cool.
The Supreme Court decided in favor that parents have jurisdiction
over the raising of their kids and the content that
their kids are exposed to at school.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
However, do they really have to.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
Approach this under the First Amendment religious beliefs umbrella?
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Why do why does it have to fall under? Well,
I have my religious beliefs are such, therefore.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
My kid I can pull my kid out of whatever
lesson or whatever, you know, exposure to whatever it is
that's happening. Isn't that a fresh, new, brand new protected class.
Shouldn't we all have the ability, for whatever stupid dang
(35:22):
reason we want, exempt our kids or opt out. If
if there's true parent jurisdiction over your children, why do
you have to claim religious belief in order to enjoy
that protected status? So I really it's like, if you
(35:45):
take one more step down the rabbit hole of this,
I just have a little bit of an issue of
if I were to want to pull my kids out
for some reason, any reason, I'm I am a free
person under the Bill of Rights, the Constitution of the
United States, presuming.
Speaker 3 (36:06):
That still all exists.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
But you know, under that, guys, under that umbrella, like
why do I have to say, Well, it's my religious
faith that exempt that that grants me this ability. And
if you don't have that, you gotta lie and say that.
You know, maybe you don't go to church, maybe you
(36:30):
don't have a particular religious faith or whatever, but your
common sense enough to know that kindergarteners should not be
reading pornography in the classroom, and you got to you
gotta like lie and pretend like, oh, it goes against
my faith, pull my kid out.
Speaker 3 (36:51):
So I have a little bit of a m how
you know, yay, But dot dot dot.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Maybe we need to take this conversation one step further
as a free people.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
How is it then that again we're left with this.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Class system, right or a little bit there's a little
bit of a differentiation happening here that if we're pure
at heart about parents' rights, I'm not sure we need
that distinction, and that goes for everything, Like I'm not
sure if finishing my thought process about California and my
(37:34):
future grandchildren, which I am planning for.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
My kids are like, oh barf mom.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
But you know, I was saying to my husband, well, okay,
if there were a national a national protection on families
that states that, right, there are some states where you
do not need to have all seventy two seventy nine.
I mean, by the time I have grandkids, two hundred
different shots in ours and before they let you into
(38:03):
public education, which is taxpayer funded, is free for everyone.
If there was a national movement to protect families and
students and parents that you don't have to have be
in total stupid compliance with the excuse me, lobbyist funded
(38:24):
laws that say you need to take these products into
your bodies or else. If there were national protections about that,
and my children could choose on their own, as a
free people, to inject their children with substances or not,
and then they still were offered a quality public education
(38:45):
I said, quality and tongue in cheek, just like everyone else,
then then maybe I, you know, would have less reservations
about raising families in California. But okay, I do want
to get to my mood versus Taylor just a little bit,
So we're gonna delve more into that after I come
back from the break. But I did want to point
that out, like, on one hand, we celebrate, on the
(39:09):
other hand, it's there's still a lot of nuances out there.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
This is not a solve all policy. It's a good one.
It's helping us out, Thank you Supreme Court. But anyways,
more to do as usual. Okay, Mama Bear's Radio, Kristin
Hurley here, I'll be right back Mama Bear's Radio. We'll
(39:37):
be right back.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, the
new normal. Just slogging my way through the new normal
every day here. Oh it's four years. I'm just gonna
stop saying. Almost four years. Four years Mama Bear's Radio.
This month very exciting.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Okay, So this is from the Federalist. I want to
cram this in.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Before the top of the hour because I have other
stuff I want to talk about. But hiding the as
we're talking about Taylor v. MA Mood, the Supreme Court
decision that came out a couple weeks ago. Hiding beneath
this religious exercise challenge, however, that writes the Federalist is
an issue whose day has come. The very question of
parental rights and who controls the formation of children. Ma
(40:57):
Mood reveals the two very different views of the role
of parents and of government institutions like public schools in
the formation and education of kids. So, Justice Alito's majority
opinion clearly recognizes the primary right of parents to form
their children, especially in matters of religious belief quote. A
(41:19):
government burdens the religious exercise of parents when it requires
them to submit their children to instruction that poses quote
a very real threat of undermining the religious beliefs and
practices that the parents wish to instill. And a government
cannot condition the benefit of free public education on parents'
acceptance of such instruction. And in this traditional view, parents
(41:48):
decide the beliefs and practice that children will be exposed to,
and schools cannot override these decisions. Okay, But Justice So
to Mayor's dissent, pains a very different picture.
Speaker 3 (41:58):
Here's the opposite side of the coin.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
Public schools, she says, this court has said, are quote
at once the symbol of our democracy and the most
pervasive means for promoting our common destiny. They offered to
children of all faiths and backgrounds, an education and an
opportunity to practice living in our multicultural society. That experience
is critical to our nation's civic vitality. Yet it will
(42:22):
become a mere memory if children must be insulated from
exposure to ideas and concepts that may conflict with their
parents' religious beliefs. Today's ruling ushers in that new reality. Okay, oh,
so much to break down about this, But this is
about what the federalist says, and there's some good stuff
in here, so hang on with me. There are two
problematic strains of thought here. First, the dissent in visions
(42:45):
public schools, not parents, as the primary means which children
are formed. The opinion speaks as if schools, not families,
are the fundamental way that children are introduced.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
To society and taught how to be citizens.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
This view has become prevalent on the left today and
has made its way all the way up to the
Supreme Court. Second, Sodo Mayor unbelievably speaks as if her
view is the traditional and accepted one. In Sodo Mayor's world,
states are the primary formers of children, and the idea
that parents, rather than the schools, may decide the ideas
to which their children are exposed ushers end quote a
(43:19):
new reality. Oh, that's a new way of doing things,
she thinks. Parents making these decisions, of course, does not
usher in a new reality, but restores it to the
way which societies have always functioned. So to my or's
rewriting of history acts as if parents being the primary caregivers, educators,
and decision makers for their children is a novelty rather
(43:40):
than a natural reality. I'm going to skip ahead here
a little bit from William Blackstone to John Adams and
Thomas Jefferson. The founding era Anglo American legal tradition clearly
affirmed that parents have the primary duty to protect, care for,
and educate their children, and because rights them from duties,
parental rights over children are indeed natural rights. So why
(44:04):
wasn't this idea constitutionalized? Perhaps simply because it wasn't necessary.
Why does our modern society require explicit laws protecting parental
rights Because there are state run institutions that now compete
with parents for the care, control, and education of the children.
(44:25):
Those institutions largely did not exist at the time of
the Founding in anything like their current form. There was
no fear of mandatory public education overriding the decisions and
desires of parents because there was no mandatory public education.
There were no professionalized police forces examining claims of child
abuse or neglect, no child protective service agencies. There were
(44:47):
no mandated reporter laws encouraging people to report parents for
a violating the secular orthodoxy of the day in the
ways that they raise and educate their kids. In the
era of the American Founding, there was a great concern
for freedom of speech, religion and assembly, and the press
to protect a robust public discourse and a healthy citizenry.
(45:07):
There was a fear of standing armies and therefore desire
to maintain an armed populace. The abuses of the British
government led to protections and against unreasonable searches and seizures,
cruel and unusual punishment, trials without juries. But in that
monumental historical moment, there was no conceivable threat to parents
caring for and educating their children properly and freely. Therefore,
(45:30):
it is unsurprising that parents' rights did not find their
way into the legal text and acted enacted during the
American Founding.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
All right, I'm at the top.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Of the hour here, guys, We're going to keep going
with Mama Bear's Radio for one more hour.
Speaker 3 (45:43):
Everybody's stay tuned. This is Mama Bear's Radio. I'll be
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