June 18, 2025 • 44 mins
Picking up the dropped ball(s)..... is not just for basketball players! Today I speak with one of the founders of the Apogee Strong organization, Matt Beaudreau. This amazing collection of prgrams under the Apogee banner "exists to reseed freedom in our children and in our nation through education for the entire family." Matt and I talk particulary about their mentorship programs for young women and men.... instilling valueable skills, confidence, values and knowledge in our nation's next generation. Super cool program! I hope everyone will recomend this program for young adults in their lives who could benefit from from inspiration and perspective. https://apogeestrong.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
The California Mama Bears have been forced out of hibernation. Wow,
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(00:31):
Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
All Right, everybody, it's a fresh new Monday. Welcome to
Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Here as usual, my claws are out. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
I need about fifteen hours today to get through everything
I want to talk about. But my first hour, we're
gonna go straight into my guest. I'm super excited he's
joining me today. I know I have talked a little
bit about Appajee Strong before on the phone lines. Now
Matt drou CEO Atpage Strong Organization. Matt, Welcome to Mama
Bear's Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Honor is absolutely mine. I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Christen.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay, well, we have some wonderful mutual friends that introduced
me to Abajee a year two ago or whatever, and
I finally got the chance to really start exploring your
programs and I'm super super stoked.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We need more of this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So let me just let you introduce yourself, and you know,
eventually we'll get here to what is APAGEE, How is
it founded?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Who you know, how did you come up.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
With the structure for the program? And what do you
guys offer? So I'll turn it over to you here.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I appreciate that very much. So you know again, Matt Bodrow.
And what I tell people is I'm a career educator,
and that means I've gotten the chance to see it all.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was a California native.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I haven't lived in California for the last few years.
We bought a farm in the mountains of North Carolina,
but California born and raised as my wife, and you know,
I saw education from the inside out. We were at
Stanford for quite a while. My wife and I both
worked there. I was a public school teacher and I
did the whole public school, private school teaching administration, did
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all of that while I was there in California, and
absolutely loved the good humans working in the system. Absolutely
loved the amazing parents and amazing students, but was not
in love with the system itself. And as a father
and then as you know, as an educator, I had
to take a look in the mirror and go, you
know what, I don't want to perpetuate a lot of
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what I'm seeing here. I think there's a different way
that we could do education. But I don't want to
do one of these guys which just complains about a solution.
So I started building campuses that I believed in in
the Sacramento area and we had some great success. I
built them primarily for my kids, but you know, it
was very, very quickly, I said, quickly, within the matter
of four or five years, we had multiple campuses and
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we were serving hundreds of families.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And that's really kind.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Of what started this whole journey for us at apage style.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Everybody has started to look elsewhere for education. It's just ubiquitous,
especially here in California. And I myself have always been
been interested in independent schools, independent approaches, different approaches like
teaching pedagogy. I have three kids, each one of them
to their own little independent thing. And what I love, though,
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is having the opportunity to wrap in the values that
we hold dear that they don't necessarily get in school.
They get a whole bunch of other drunk mucking up
the works. And you know, being able to educate with
the academics and instill principles. And I don't even want
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to say conservative values. I want to say they're American
values into our kids. Is so important to me. And
I'll just read your mission statement. APAGE exists to recede freedom.
I love it in our children and in our nations
for education for the entire family. It's right there on
your website, right, Okay, so you are you know, APAG
is a little bit beyond.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Uh school for kids.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You have programs APERG Women, APAGE Strong Young Women, which
is I particularly want to get into that Strong Young
Men as well, and APAGE Man. Do you want to
talk a little bit about how how those programs came
to be?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Absolutely, So you know what you said, it's it's education
for the entire family.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We are very values based. We don't pretend that all
of us are going to agree on every single topic
all the time. And most people listening, you know, the
people closest to you, You don't agree on every single thing.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So do you just and those relationships?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Of course not. You learn to work through those. And
civil discourse is a thing like that, that is a
it is something that we as humans can can do.
And the reality is, you know, the majority of the time,
the people in our tribe or in our network, we
agree on on the.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Majority these things.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
What we're concerned about our campuses and in our programs
is we do we agree on those values of honor
and intevity and loyalty and politeness and right like, that's
where we come together and then we can have great
conversations around other things. And so it truly is education
for the entire family. We do have these K through
twelve and actually K through university campuses, but we have
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these other programs that while they do fold into the campuses,
they can also stand alone. So if you're not near
a campus, but you have a teenage daughter, and there's
the mentorship program for the teenage girls, there's a mentorship
program for the boys, a mentorship for the moms, mentorship
for the dads, and that does all get folded in
here on a campus. And that came about really organically.
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You know, we're building campuses and my partner Tim Tim Kennedy,
who is the co founder of the organization, you know,
we're going. Man, We've got really good men in our network.
I have so many amazing friends that have done amazing things,
and they're more importantly just good as humans. Gosh, I
don't want to get more of these guys in front
of our young men and just give them more examples
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to look up to. And Tim you know, thought the
same and has the same kind of network. And so
it started, really is that mentorship for the young men.
And we had men young men from you know, very
quickly from fifteen sixteen different countries, from almost every state. Uh,
and we're just bringing in these good men to pour
into these guys, and that very quickly became all these
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dads that these young men went.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Hey, by the.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Way, we could have used this kind of knowledge, We
could have used this kind what about a men's program?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And so it was the classic story of just organically
growing from there, you know, made it for the men.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Then you have the wives going, we'd love to see
something for the ladies for.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
The ladies, and has circled back around for the young
ladies too. So it really, truly, honestly is education for
the entire family.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, and what.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I particularly love and was intrigued for looking into Apage
was raising future leaders for tomorrow. This is something I
talk about all the time. We can save the nation. Right,
We're working hard to keep the pieces together here, but
who are we? You know, it's for our posterity and
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the next generations. But those guys need the fortitude and
the deeper understanding of what it means to as you said,
civil discourse, be a nation, be have the internal tool belt,
you know, handling emotions and being able to debate and communicate.
All these fundamental things that you want to instill in
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your kids so they grow up into like people that
can handle it. So I super appreciate that, and I
really want to talk a little bit if I'm just
kind of looking through your program for young men. Let's
just say this is like a twelve month mentorship program
that you guys offer, correct.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So we say we say twelve plus, meaning if that
that young man comes in for you know, for for
twelve months and pours in and shows up and really
you know, gets accurate that he's invited to stay in
perpetuity no charge.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well yeah, it is a little bit and beyond right
because you want you don't just want to like, you know,
do it and forget about it. But I love the
modules become the gentlemen manners are so far gone in.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The normal public lexicons. O build your reputation. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Command the room, get creative man's skills. Hone, you're inner warrior.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I love that. There's a quote.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, this is not a school, it's a battlefield
for self esteem. Anyways, do you want to talk a
little bit about these different modules that you the mentorship
program takes young men through.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
You bet yeah, where pleasure and it's funny. I just
coming off a text message from one of our moms.
This young man has been part of our program for
three years. I just got himself into the Air Force Academy.
He actually seventeen years old. Just became the youngest person
to ever complete I don't remember the name of the race,
but it was two hundred and fifty mile race that's
on a s feet by the way.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Those us of a couple of days, he became the
youngest person ever.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I'm just a phenomenal young man. So you know, these
these modules. The way everything is set up is every
month these young men have a specific project, a specific
challenge that they are taking on. They've got workouts that
we give them. There's a recommended book they don't have
to read that book, but we do want you know,
leaders or readers, and so we do want them reading.
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But then we've got the private platform where they've got
the other young men to connect with. They have some
of our coaches, some of our men to connect with,
and every week they get to jump on a live
call with a really some of the most phenomenal men.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
On the planet.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And these men range from you know, professional athletes and
actors to maybe feel and CEO entrepreneurs, and you know,
it's all over the board. But again it's a man
that that identify with that set of values. And so
every month, these young men are pushing themselves forward and
learning to lead.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So they we do.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
We talk about manners quite a bit. That's right the front.
We get back to this good old fashioned yes sir,
no sir, yes, ma'am. No man, let's hold some doors
open for the ladies. Let's and you know, let's learn
to shake hands, let's look somebody in the eye. And
I know that's just such basic fundamentals, but it is
so gone that you know, when these young men adopt
this and they realize that the world book's different, and
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people will, you know, we're raising the bar for them.
And they raise the bar for themselves by doing this.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
People will look to them. Already.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I can't tell you the number of times people have
talked to me and just be like, oh my gosh,
this young man was amazing, and I'm like, well, tell
me about what do you do?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He said, sir? He said, man, he shook my head
and he's like.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You would think we introduced them to Jesus just because
we reintroduced manners.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, it's phenomenal, odd man, that it really would
stand now, it.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Really is, It really is.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And so you know, they they they go from these manners,
they go to uh running family meetings in their homes.
They are learning to interview. They're interviewing CEOs, and they're
having to earn their way into these interviews. They're having
to Yes, they get the interviews that we provide for them,
but that's also part of their challenges, you know, finding
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CEOs and other leaders to interview, their interviewing military and
law enforcement. They're going out and doing public speaking challenges.
They're going out and doing service challenges in their community.
They're going out to.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, figure out.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Who they can mentors. They're also finding other young men
that they can go pour into the man's skills. Those
are just basic skills that you know, we feel like
uh should be kind of status quo, the good old fashioned.
How do you tie a tithe? You know, change a tire?
You know, some of the just some of the basics.
You know, they're diving into that first aid and CPR
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and aeed. There's even a little sales and marketing challenge.
There is a no technology challenge, whether they're taking off
of all technology outside of their zoom calls for their meetings.
You know, they're taking off that that piece.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
For a month and just you know, seeing what does that?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
What does that do?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You know, how did I respond?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And am I.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Okay with with no tech in my life and not
text messaging? Are getting on video games and so it's
just it's this real series of leadership challenges and they're
documenting all of it, so they create a digital portfolio
around that so that they can show the world. Look,
I'm I'm doing my best to create far more than
I consume, to give far more than I take. And
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here are the lessons learned from there. Here's the network
created from there, and you know, and out of that,
you know, of course, opportunities are coming. There's been job offers,
there's been you know, college acceptance. There's this young man,
you know, the Air Force Academy and to get like
we can name all those stories. But more importantly, we
just have young men who are stepping into that self
esteem and going, Okay, I have something to offer the world.
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And I think that's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's so essential.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I was laughing when you're talking about the man skills.
My daughter, my youngest one, actually.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Just graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Of course, for graduation, there's been a lot of we
live by the beach, there's a lot of beach bonfires, a.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Lot of partying going on.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
She's the one that starts the bonfires at the beach.
She's the one with the like the skills to turn
on the little propane torch, build the wood up and
start a fire.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And I'm going, you're kidding me, Like none of the
other boys are, like nobody, no, Mom.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
They make me do it because I know how to
do it. And I go, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
The kids can actually do it. But it's so essential, right,
and hey, hey, here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's on us, right, It's on us as parents, like
that's that's a.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Big part of this, right.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I'm definitely not a you know, I'm not going to
point a finger and go look, you know, it's just
this generation with it. No, Hey, that's on us as
parents then too, So how are we leading again? That's
why when we're talking about what we want to do,
it's not just let's build these campuses and let's let's
get the use of today back to where we think
that you know that they are leading like we'd like
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to see in leading also hate parents. They need to
see you doing this by example, and too, let's get
you growing at the same time, because if that's on us,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It really is well and it's such a snowball effect,
I think. And getting back to the you know, the
skill working with your hands, accomplishing something, even if it's
like screwing something in or drill and putting a little
piece of what together or something, that leads to confidence
for the next thing that's harder, and then the next
harder thing, and then you know, and pretty soon you've
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got it's not just skills, but it's inner fortitude and
confidence you know that I can do that, and then
that multiplies in all of the different aspects to life.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I think super cool.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Your spot off.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So the mentors, let's talk a little bit about you know,
it's you kind of have your core group, the founders
of Apage and coaches. But you mentioned the mentors that
come in. What what are their roles and how often
do they do they interact with the boys or girls
in the mentorship program.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That's a great question. So it you know, it depends
on the mentor.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
When when I talk about, you know, the mentors that
we have, we're talking high level mentors, and you go
onto our website you can see some of the mentors
that have come in, and I mean we can go
down the list of just you know, Tulci Gabbert is
a dear friend of mine and she's come in, you know,
a couple of times. Carry Lee Walsh's a little Bay
Area legend.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
She's come in.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
She's come in a couple of times. We just had,
you know, Sage Steel, that Alex her Mosey, Andy Frizella.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, I can go who's who live?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Actually it is.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
A who's who list, it really is, And so it
really depends on that. And obviously these are all world
changing individuals, and so if they are on if they
are on that site, they have at least come in
for a couple hours to pour into people at some point.
But the majority of them come in, you know, on
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multiple occasions. They will also show up to some of
our live events and our reunions to pour in in person.
So it really depends, you know, obviously on the mentor
how deep our relationship is with those individuals. And so,
but every week, the young people are getting to end
by the way, moms and the dead. I had the
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men's call earlier today. The women are having their call
tonight actually right now as we speak. And guest mentors
come in every single week for our tribe, and it's
either a new mentor that they've never met before or
one of those one of those existing you know that
that's a weekly call. And then we build out coaches
internally to just make sure that we've got some of
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our own who are also mentoring from the standpoint of, Hey,
I've been through this roadmap that you are all going
through right now. Here's how I tech, Here's how you
should tackle it. Here's how I tackle it. Here's what
I learned, Here's what I would have done differently. How
can I help serve you?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
So we've got you know, obviously, all these very well
known people just are our people who have gone through
this too, are continuing to give back and and kind
of pay it forward to So it's this is a
weekly a weekly d deal with these with these caliber people.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So inspiring, it just feels like we really have run.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Sorry, well, I.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Just it's so much fun. Oh, it's so much fun.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
It really is so much fun with us.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
To get a glimpse of different if you go down
the list of mentors is like UFC athletes, I can
appreciate that we love UFC right, people that have been
at the top of their game somehow, whether it's media
and journalism, or athletics or corporate and to get to
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those top level spots, it's like, you know, the road
to that has been full of bumps and fits and starts,
and it's the journey that's instructive that the kids need
to hear, you know, how do you overcome the roadblocks
and your own like disappointments and rejection and the full
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gamut of getting to where you know, having a vision
and achieving it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That really is super instructive.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's right, that's exactly it's. It is such a it's
that it's it's pointing eyes to the horizon and going look.
You know, you dive in and you learn this this
world changer that everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Guess what, he was just like me.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
She was just like me, and she didn't have it
all figured out. And he still doesn't think he has
it all figured out. And you know, you hear those stories.
And then what's what's beautiful is, over the course of
the year or longer you're talking to so many of
these people, inherently you start seeing patterns. Right, success loves clues.
So you start seeing all of these patterns of success.
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You start hearing all the patterns of like you said,
overcoming certain things and being resilient and where you know
smart risk was taken. And you know how intentional they
are about their the tribal people around them, How intentional
they are about you know, their own reading and their
own growth, how intentional they are about their own physical health,
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how intentional they are about you know, every single aspect.
You start to see these patterns and these young people
and again moms and dads too. What's cool is that
they've realized you actually never know what call is going
to change your life. It may be somebody that is
wildly famous and you're like, I'm so excited to talk
to them, and then the call will be great and
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he's like, yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Was that was awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
And then it may be a call with somebody that
you're like, I have no idea who this is, but
I got on there and it was the exact story
that I needed to change everything. And it's so much
fun to watch that happen week over week over week.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, I am super inspired. I'm really glad to have
you on today. We're gonna pause for a break, Matt,
so hang tight with me for a couple of minutes
and then we'll be back. All right, everybody, this is
Mama Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here, my guest, Matt Purdreaux,
CEO of Apage Strong or Programs right plural. There's there's
many branches to what they offer. I'm super glad to
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have him today. So everybody, we're gonna take a break.
Stand by.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I'll be right back Mama Bear's Radio, Bears Radio, We'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's radio Kristin Hurley here, I
have a guess at this hour Matt bidrou from Apage Strong,
and we were chatting about what it takes to raise leaders,
the leaders of tomorrow, benefiting or prospering our next generation,
as I like to say, and we've been talking about
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their mentorship program.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I wanted, Matt, I want to.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Delve a little bit more into some of the tools
that you are bequeathing to these young people. And this
is your young women and young men mentorship program. And
I love, I love some of this. Mastering self discipline,
overcoming weakness and self doubt, building a brotherhood, leading through service,
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building real world grit. How I mean, how many kids
give up after the first try these days, Strength and
body and mind, facing adversity like a warrior, taking responsibility
for your actions. All of these are so so important.
Mastering financial independence starts at home. Our nation's bankrupt and
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out of control spending.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
How do we change that?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Need to instill the value.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of money and financial responsibility for the men, respecting and
understanding women. Thank you excellent speaking with confidence power. The
list goes on of essential life skills, not only you know,
to help themselves through life but to be the ones
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that set the tone an example for the rest of
their peers in the next generation and pass that along.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm curious a little.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Bit, Matt, like, how do you find from the I
want to say students, but the young men and women
in your mentorship program, what are some recurring themes that
you hear from them about their experiences? You know, young
adults are coming of age in the land of TikTok
and Instagram, Like, how what are their main themes that
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they struggle with?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Would you say, Yeah, that's a really good question, and
you know, you kind of started to allude to it there,
So I'll tell you with the young men all of
the above what you're saying. The you know, social media
ends up being kind of a thing that can be
a distraction. It can you know, create kind of social
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angst it creates. You know this when I say addiction,
there's the actual physiology, like physiology involved in this, and
you know, there's this lack of motivation. But for the
young men in particular, the thing that hits the hardest,
the biggest struggle that they'll be very open with, uh,
is it's video games. That's you know, and again I
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can't make it a blanket statement to where this is
impacting every young man. I would never say that, but
I will tell you that's a conversation that I've had
over and over and over again for years, in years
and years, video games becoming an addiction, becoming something that
takes the place of real world experience, becoming something that
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checks off all these boxes that young men naturally have,
right They the young men naturally want to they want
to create, they want to compete, they want to you know,
work to slay the dragon and save the princess.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know kind of kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But they're checking all of this off in a virtual fashion.
And then there is actual physiology behind that, where you know,
you're getting these these giant dopamine hits from playing these
video games. But dopamine's like a swimming pool. If you're
go to you know, if you're going to drain it,
you got to fill it back up, and you got
to give you.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Got to give it time.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And these young men are spending out and hours and
hours on these games, and so it's killing the dopamine.
So they really are physiologically impressed and don't want to go,
you know, get into the real world, right, So for
the young men, video games, and then I will tell
you an offshoot of that, and people will say, that's
not an offshoot of it, but it is is pornography,
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you know, and young men being faced with that, being
exposed to that, being tempted by that. You know, young
men are already going to be tempted because it's so accessible,
but having their friends around them, you know, exposing them
to that. So for the young men, it's that. For
the young ladies, you know, all of those things are relevant,
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but it's the social media part of it that is
creating so much angst and anxiety for them, at least
in our experience. That's that's the the majority. And I
don't work, I don't work directly with the young ladies
as much. I'll go on and see them and pour
into them where I can, But we need ladies pouring
into them. So we have male coaches, you know, female
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women and young women who are pouring into them more often,
and so that would be a better question for them.
But that's what I hear from the coaches and the
social media time for our young ladies.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, Well, my my husband is kind of a in
the tech realm a Silicon Valley engineer type. And he's
constantly told my daughters, the algorithms are telling you to
scro They're they're helping the doom scrolling more than you know.
And it's curated for you to draw you in and
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you like, an hour's gone by, and you look up
and you're like, oh, shoot, I lost an hour of
my life.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's by design.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So it's there's some strong, strong forces working against getting
our kids up and out of that. Well, I want
to talk a little bit more about helping them learn
to communicate, because it's like, if you, if you distill down, well,
what are the major problems in our society today, in
our nation and maybe perhaps worldwide whatever. There's so many
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to choose from, but communication is one of them. Expressing
yourself accurately, like having clarity of thought, being solid in
your perspective, and then being able to output that communicate
that to someone else. You know, what are some of
the ways you approach that with the young young men
and young women.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Mentorship great great question and great question, and communication is
one of those what we call a mena skill. It
is a skill that we believe matters always to all people.
All time, you know, across the board.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So it's we attack that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
From a number of different perspectives. So one, in order
to communicate well, you do need clarity of thought. And
clarity of thought comes in a number of ways, but
one it does come with writing. So we do encourage writing,
but not writing, you know, essays for essays, say right,
that's that sounds like school. But writing out your ideas,
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writing out your thoughts, writing out reflections on books you've read,
writing out reflections on conversations, writing out the stories that
live in your mind that maybe create.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
A little bit of chaos or a little bit of
sadness or a little.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Bit of what if we write those out and we
revisit those and we really take a look at it,
sometimes you find that when you put it objectively on paper,
now it's something you can look at and go, Okay,
you know what that's actually I'm gonna go ahead and
tell myself a different story about this story.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
The self esteem sometimes starts with the stories.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You tell yourself about yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And so we have them write and reflect, you know,
in various on various things to really push themselves through
and see what do I actually think about this, So
that's one element of it. Obviously, the weekly calls where
they are engaging with and getting comfortable engaging with very
high level individuals, that is helpful. They are talking directly
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to these individuals, they're asking questions, they're getting feedback. We
give them a framework for asking really good questions, so
they'll operate within that framework until they have their own
framework developed and so the last these questions and gain
these responses. But then even outside of the mentors on
those live calls will also take them through some socratic conversations.
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Well maybe you put them as a protagonist in a
scenario and go, okay, you've got choice A or you've
got choice B. Which one you want to take? You know,
what does that look like? Why are you choosing this
over this?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And will allow.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Them to formulate again what do I think about certain things?
We'll actually think and we'll engage in those kinds of
conversations and almost you know, debate with them. So we'll
do those things. And then some of those projects that
they have throughout the throughout the months. Again they're interviewing CEOs,
they're interviewing law enforcement, they're interviewing military, but they're also
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going out and presenting. You know, they're doing and specific
public speaking challenges. They're also going out and doing door
to door almost a sale online giveaway, that this is
one of the most fun exercises we have. That there
is a month where they have this challenge that really
requires some some cajones and going door to door and
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you're meeting some strangers and not in an unsafe fashion.
There's more to it. You don't have to go just
door to door, but it's a sales and marketing challenge
that is really really unique, and it really like teeters
on the success, teeters on your ability to communicate and
to figure out how to continue to communicate with strangers.
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And it is so fun and so inspiring to watch them.
So we're putting them in all of these scenarios where
communication matters orally and in a written fashion, and you
see the ship, you fundamentally see the young people if
they stick with it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I would say from my experience observing and you know,
hearing from my own kids, there's always a loud one
in the room with very loud let's just say political
opinions or opinions on something, and it takes incredible guts
for someone to stand up to that, especially in a
public setting, and say, well I disagree, and here's a
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different perspective, and here's what I think, and be unafraid
to be, you know, beat down by the more powerful personality,
so to speak, or the fear of saying something wrong,
like the group think in the world. And this goes
for adults too, obviously, is so powerful to you know,
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to stand up and to propose a different viewpoint or
just even ask a question takes a lot of guts.
And so I appreciate that aspect to this that you're
helping the kids again have those tiny experiences that build
the build the self confidence, yes to you know, pull
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that out when when the time is right.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well, Matt, standby.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
We are gonna be on our last break here, and
so if everybody can just hang tight, we have one
more segment coming up. My guest today Matt Boudreaux, CEO
of Apage Strong Programs. And as soon as my computer
co operates here, we were gonna be taking our last
break at the hour. This is Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin
(32:29):
Hurley here, I'll.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Be right back.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Got out of town on a bot.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
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the trades on the outside. I'm the down.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Welcome back to Mama Bears Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Here my guest this hour, Matt Budreau, CEO of Apage Strong,
raising Leaders for UH for the future of our nation.
I absolutely love everything about this program.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I encourage everyone to look them up.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's appa ge now that's spelled a po gee apa
G Strong. Do you google, Matt? Do you want to
tell us where? What even does apag mean? Where's that
name come from?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
That's a really yeah, that's a really good question. So
the apage is like the approach to the summit of something.
It's approached to the to the highest level. So you know,
when you are approaching the summit of the mountain, you're
approaching the apage of the mountain.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
And so that's, you know, just kind.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Of paying homage to the fact that, you know, we're
all here to continue to grow. There's no such thing
as perfection. That's not possible and not going to be
the perfect mod the perfect dad, the perfect young Persian.
But there's always room to grow and to continue to climb.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And so that's what it's in reference to.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Very inspiring.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, I want to talk a little bit in our
last segment here about this concept of freedom. It's something
I talk about all the time and I always say, well,
you know, I'm a gen xer, and somehow in my
young years I had instilled a complete and total reverence
for the uniqueness of our nation, the founding fathers in
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their bravery and creativity to put on paper an entirely
new way of government, excuse me self, governance and.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
What that means.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I think obviously, like a lot of us, millions
of us, we had to really re examine that in
the last is starting twenty twenty and the sort of
the tumultuous decade we're in, and I had to go back,
and you know, I had that sense about me and
was in like extreme defiance of anyone to try and
(35:03):
come and take it from me. But you know, again,
it begs a relearning of the Bill of Rights and
the way the constitution in our government is set up,
and what does that mean and where are the boundaries
and all of that. So, you know, I know that's
something that's important in Apogee that you're instilling in young.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
People as well.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
They're not getting it in schools, they may not be
getting it necessarily at home.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It is.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't know, it's a complex topic to be able
to weave in what does the nation mean? Why do
we have what we say American exceptionalism? What about our
nation has worked all these years? And what is freedom
and liberty? So how do you approach those subjects with
your young men and women mentorship programs?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, it's such a great question, It's such a great conversation.
It is far more it's far more complex when the
individual lives it out, But it really is simple to present.
And that's that's kind of what we've found is if
we present something very simply and provide a very simple
road mapp, then you let the beauty and complexity of humanity,
you know, they can take it from there. And the
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reverse is also true, which is why I'm not a
huge fan of the schooling system, because all of the
overly complex systems also tend to get simple human beings,
and so that's obviously not what we want. So, you know,
we really look at it in two ways. One, do
we want to give them the historical context, talk about
the founding Fathers, the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Take a look at us.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Of course, we want them to have that general knowledge.
We want them to understand, you know, why what what
people were fighting for them.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
More importantly, we want them.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
To understand how that actually looks like, how do how
does somebody actually behave when they are behaving as a
sovereign human? So what is the definition of freedom and sovereignty?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like what is that? You know?
Speaker 5 (36:57):
The Socrates say at the beginning of wisdom is the
day definition of terms? So what do those terms mean?
But more importantly, how does it look? So again, the
mentors that come in, you know, we want to talk
to them about, well, what does sovereignty mean to you?
What does that looks up to you? How does that
play out? How do you live a sovereign life? So
you say, look, I'm going to do life the way
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I want to do it, with the people I want
to do it to. I'm not going to have to
ask permissions in people. But I'm going to do this
so that I can serve others, not so that I
can be served. How does that look? Who are the
people that are living in this way? And it starts
between the ears like sovereignty and creative and the most
powerful cages are invisible. It is the you know, I
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think I have to ask permission. I think I have
to shut down because everybody says I have to shut down.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I didn't shut down.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
My businesses in twenty twenty either, right there, because I
didn't shu to so I didn't. It was just it's
it's really similiar.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
But I can walk them, right.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
And so I've walked the kids through, like this is
what happened. I saw this coming, this is what we
told to me, this is what was said to me,
and this is what I chose to do in response
because I had the right to continue to operate my business.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I had the right to continue.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So here's how I showed that I had that right.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know, I showed it from a.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You know, the standpoint of taking a look at the
constitution and going here's why I'm going to say open.
But more importantly, I did it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Now what comes with that? There's pushback.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
There's pushback from maybe it's a pushback from local legislators,
maybe push back from you know, people who you sought
were your friends and people who are your family who
are saying, how dare you push back against the narrative
whatever that is, and you have to understand that part
of sovereignty and freedom is being at peace with making
hard decisions, and not everybody would be okay, is that right?
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So again it's it's a very long tail, multifaceted conversation,
but everything we do points to at direction.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, And throughout this whole conversation with you, I keep
wanting to say, well, you know, can't kids just get this?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
And there shouldn't they be.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Getting this a at home, be maybe from a church
or church community if you're plugged in, or you know,
a smaller community at large. It feels like there was
a day and maybe I don't you know, I don't
want to idealize anything, but I feel like, sure there
were times gone by where young men and women, the
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adults in the room modeled these things of self discipline
and responsibility, and you know, going down the list of
your modules is the stoic mind, right, and motivation and
all of that, and the.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Kids didn't have to flail.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To you know, to a certain degree, like I said,
we've we've dropped the ball on modeling this, and so
I really do appreciate that you guys are recognizing that
these are holes that need to be filled.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
And you're offering it out there.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So this is so you know, a see, there's obviously
it's remote to a large extent. This is for anyone
across the land to look into and possibly join a
program for themselves or their children.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Do you guys, I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
How else have you how have you seen your growth
in the last several years. Is it just word of
mouth or how are you guys reaching and finding families.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, that's that's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Well, it goes back to what you were just saying too,
or it needs to be modeled. That's why the moms
and the dads matter so much, right, we want that
to be normal in the household, but we also want
these normal hubs in the community. So, you know, the growth,
it has been organic, It has been word of mouth.
But it's not just the online mentorship programs, these virtual components.
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We have got over one hundred physical K through twelve
and or K through university locations that people have decided
to partner with us to launch in their own hometown.
And so they're launching these K through twelve or K
through university campuses in their hometown. And when they do that,
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they're inviting all these young people who come in. It's
a physical location to meet and we're providing you know,
the curriculum, the context. They're automatically connected with our mentorship programs.
The moms and dads who are sending their kids there
are automatically connected with our men's and women's mentorship programs,
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and they start building out local hubs for education, so
that we start building strong families in strong communities in
these physical local hubs. The virtual was how we started,
and it's great. It'll always be a part to keep
everybody connected, but the end goal is more and more
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of these physical locations that people and then we just
can connect with each other across the country.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
It's great to be able to have all the family
that you know at our Long Island, New York campus
connecting with the families at our Salt Lake City campus,
and of course we do that virtually, but then you know,
they're responsible for leading their local community and building this hub,
and then we can all get together at our annual
family reunion in Texas and I and we can all
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you know, all get together and celebrate and hug each other.
But you know, we'll connect virtually throughout the local meeting hubs.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Are where it's at.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I had no idea that your physical locations were so
so broad. I had no idea you're at one hundred
one hundred plus.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
That is so cool, yes, ma'am, just in the last year.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, my hat's off to you, and I super appreciate
you know a your time with me today and be
the you know energy and the way that you're doing
your part to help our next generation. It's like I said,
it's like I'll save the Narn Country myself, but we
have to bequeath it to kids. They can handle that.
So thank you for all of that. And we have
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like just a minute left, so.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
One more time. How people can find you?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
You bet, I appreciate that, and I appreciate you being
on the same team very much a voice on the
same team. So anybody can go to apputystrong dot com
a p O G E E strong dot com see
what we're doing there. If you're on social media, we're
at Appetu program. People can also reach out to me
directly at Matt Bodrow on most social media platforms as well.
So yeah, I very much appreciate you. Christen.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Well, this has been cool.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
We will have to stay in touch and just check
in periodically, keep tabs on on your growth path. And
I again, my hat's off to everybody, and I appreciate
your time. Well, we'll sign off here. Matt, thank you
so much for joining Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
It was an honor. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
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Speaker 3 (00:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
I need about fifteen hours today to get through everything
I want to talk about. But my first hour, we're
gonna go straight into my guest. I'm super excited he's
joining me today. I know I have talked a little
bit about Appajee Strong before on the phone lines. Now
Matt drou CEO Atpage Strong Organization. Matt, Welcome to Mama
Bear's Radio.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Honor is absolutely mine. I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Christen.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Okay, well, we have some wonderful mutual friends that introduced
me to Abajee a year two ago or whatever, and
I finally got the chance to really start exploring your
programs and I'm super super stoked.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
We need more of this.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
So let me just let you introduce yourself, and you know,
eventually we'll get here to what is APAGEE, How is
it founded?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Who you know, how did you come up.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
With the structure for the program? And what do you
guys offer? So I'll turn it over to you here.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
I appreciate that very much. So you know again, Matt Bodrow.
And what I tell people is I'm a career educator,
and that means I've gotten the chance to see it all.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
I was a California native.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
I haven't lived in California for the last few years.
We bought a farm in the mountains of North Carolina,
but California born and raised as my wife, and you know,
I saw education from the inside out. We were at
Stanford for quite a while. My wife and I both
worked there. I was a public school teacher and I
did the whole public school, private school teaching administration, did
(02:12):
all of that while I was there in California, and
absolutely loved the good humans working in the system. Absolutely
loved the amazing parents and amazing students, but was not
in love with the system itself. And as a father
and then as you know, as an educator, I had
to take a look in the mirror and go, you
know what, I don't want to perpetuate a lot of
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what I'm seeing here. I think there's a different way
that we could do education. But I don't want to
do one of these guys which just complains about a solution.
So I started building campuses that I believed in in
the Sacramento area and we had some great success. I
built them primarily for my kids, but you know, it
was very, very quickly, I said, quickly, within the matter
of four or five years, we had multiple campuses and
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we were serving hundreds of families.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
And that's really kind.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
Of what started this whole journey for us at apage style.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Everybody has started to look elsewhere for education. It's just ubiquitous,
especially here in California. And I myself have always been
been interested in independent schools, independent approaches, different approaches like
teaching pedagogy. I have three kids, each one of them
to their own little independent thing. And what I love, though,
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is having the opportunity to wrap in the values that
we hold dear that they don't necessarily get in school.
They get a whole bunch of other drunk mucking up
the works. And you know, being able to educate with
the academics and instill principles. And I don't even want
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to say conservative values. I want to say they're American
values into our kids. Is so important to me. And
I'll just read your mission statement. APAGE exists to recede freedom.
I love it in our children and in our nations
for education for the entire family. It's right there on
your website, right, Okay, so you are you know, APAG
is a little bit beyond.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
Uh school for kids.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
You have programs APERG Women, APAGE Strong Young Women, which
is I particularly want to get into that Strong Young
Men as well, and APAGE Man. Do you want to
talk a little bit about how how those programs came
to be?
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (04:25):
Absolutely, So you know what you said, it's it's education
for the entire family.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Right.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
We are very values based. We don't pretend that all
of us are going to agree on every single topic
all the time. And most people listening, you know, the
people closest to you, You don't agree on every single thing.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
So do you just and those relationships?
Speaker 5 (04:43):
Of course not. You learn to work through those. And
civil discourse is a thing like that, that is a
it is something that we as humans can can do.
And the reality is, you know, the majority of the time,
the people in our tribe or in our network, we
agree on on the.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Majority these things.
Speaker 5 (05:00):
What we're concerned about our campuses and in our programs
is we do we agree on those values of honor
and intevity and loyalty and politeness and right like, that's
where we come together and then we can have great
conversations around other things. And so it truly is education
for the entire family. We do have these K through
twelve and actually K through university campuses, but we have
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these other programs that while they do fold into the campuses,
they can also stand alone. So if you're not near
a campus, but you have a teenage daughter, and there's
the mentorship program for the teenage girls, there's a mentorship
program for the boys, a mentorship for the moms, mentorship
for the dads, and that does all get folded in
here on a campus. And that came about really organically.
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You know, we're building campuses and my partner Tim Tim Kennedy,
who is the co founder of the organization, you know,
we're going. Man, We've got really good men in our network.
I have so many amazing friends that have done amazing things,
and they're more importantly just good as humans. Gosh, I
don't want to get more of these guys in front
of our young men and just give them more examples
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to look up to. And Tim you know, thought the
same and has the same kind of network. And so
it started, really is that mentorship for the young men.
And we had men young men from you know, very
quickly from fifteen sixteen different countries, from almost every state. Uh,
and we're just bringing in these good men to pour
into these guys, and that very quickly became all these
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dads that these young men went.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Hey, by the.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Way, we could have used this kind of knowledge, We
could have used this kind what about a men's program?
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Right?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And so it was the classic story of just organically
growing from there, you know, made it for the men.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Then you have the wives going, we'd love to see
something for the ladies for.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
The ladies, and has circled back around for the young
ladies too. So it really, truly, honestly is education for
the entire family.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well, and what.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
I particularly love and was intrigued for looking into Apage
was raising future leaders for tomorrow. This is something I
talk about all the time. We can save the nation. Right,
We're working hard to keep the pieces together here, but
who are we? You know, it's for our posterity and
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the next generations. But those guys need the fortitude and
the deeper understanding of what it means to as you said,
civil discourse, be a nation, be have the internal tool belt,
you know, handling emotions and being able to debate and communicate.
All these fundamental things that you want to instill in
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your kids so they grow up into like people that
can handle it. So I super appreciate that, and I
really want to talk a little bit if I'm just
kind of looking through your program for young men. Let's
just say this is like a twelve month mentorship program
that you guys offer, correct.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
So we say we say twelve plus, meaning if that
that young man comes in for you know, for for
twelve months and pours in and shows up and really
you know, gets accurate that he's invited to stay in
perpetuity no charge.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Oh nice.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Well yeah, it is a little bit and beyond right
because you want you don't just want to like, you know,
do it and forget about it. But I love the
modules become the gentlemen manners are so far gone in.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
The normal public lexicons. O build your reputation. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Command the room, get creative man's skills. Hone, you're inner warrior.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I love that. There's a quote.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
You know, this is not a school, it's a battlefield
for self esteem. Anyways, do you want to talk a
little bit about these different modules that you the mentorship
program takes young men through.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
You bet yeah, where pleasure and it's funny. I just
coming off a text message from one of our moms.
This young man has been part of our program for
three years. I just got himself into the Air Force Academy.
He actually seventeen years old. Just became the youngest person
to ever complete I don't remember the name of the race,
but it was two hundred and fifty mile race that's
on a s feet by the way.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Those us of a couple of days, he became the
youngest person ever.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
I'm just a phenomenal young man. So you know, these
these modules. The way everything is set up is every
month these young men have a specific project, a specific
challenge that they are taking on. They've got workouts that
we give them. There's a recommended book they don't have
to read that book, but we do want you know,
leaders or readers, and so we do want them reading.
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But then we've got the private platform where they've got
the other young men to connect with. They have some
of our coaches, some of our men to connect with,
and every week they get to jump on a live
call with a really some of the most phenomenal men.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
On the planet.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
And these men range from you know, professional athletes and
actors to maybe feel and CEO entrepreneurs, and you know,
it's all over the board. But again it's a man
that that identify with that set of values. And so
every month, these young men are pushing themselves forward and
learning to lead.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So they we do.
Speaker 5 (10:12):
We talk about manners quite a bit. That's right the front.
We get back to this good old fashioned yes sir,
no sir, yes, ma'am. No man, let's hold some doors
open for the ladies. Let's and you know, let's learn
to shake hands, let's look somebody in the eye. And
I know that's just such basic fundamentals, but it is
so gone that you know, when these young men adopt
this and they realize that the world book's different, and
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people will, you know, we're raising the bar for them.
And they raise the bar for themselves by doing this.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
People will look to them. Already.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
I can't tell you the number of times people have
talked to me and just be like, oh my gosh,
this young man was amazing, and I'm like, well, tell
me about what do you do?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
He said, sir? He said, man, he shook my head
and he's like.
Speaker 5 (10:50):
You would think we introduced them to Jesus just because
we reintroduced manners.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know, it's phenomenal, odd man, that it really would
stand now, it.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Really is, It really is.
Speaker 5 (11:03):
And so you know, they they they go from these manners,
they go to uh running family meetings in their homes.
They are learning to interview. They're interviewing CEOs, and they're
having to earn their way into these interviews. They're having
to Yes, they get the interviews that we provide for them,
but that's also part of their challenges, you know, finding
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CEOs and other leaders to interview, their interviewing military and
law enforcement. They're going out and doing public speaking challenges.
They're going out and doing service challenges in their community.
They're going out to.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
You know, figure out.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Who they can mentors. They're also finding other young men
that they can go pour into the man's skills. Those
are just basic skills that you know, we feel like
uh should be kind of status quo, the good old fashioned.
How do you tie a tithe? You know, change a tire?
You know, some of the just some of the basics.
You know, they're diving into that first aid and CPR
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and aeed. There's even a little sales and marketing challenge.
There is a no technology challenge, whether they're taking off
of all technology outside of their zoom calls for their meetings.
You know, they're taking off that that piece.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
For a month and just you know, seeing what does that?
Speaker 5 (12:15):
What does that do?
Speaker 4 (12:17):
What is that?
Speaker 5 (12:17):
You know, how did I respond?
Speaker 4 (12:19):
And am I.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Okay with with no tech in my life and not
text messaging? Are getting on video games and so it's
just it's this real series of leadership challenges and they're
documenting all of it, so they create a digital portfolio
around that so that they can show the world. Look,
I'm I'm doing my best to create far more than
I consume, to give far more than I take. And
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here are the lessons learned from there. Here's the network
created from there, and you know, and out of that,
you know, of course, opportunities are coming. There's been job offers,
there's been you know, college acceptance. There's this young man,
you know, the Air Force Academy and to get like
we can name all those stories. But more importantly, we
just have young men who are stepping into that self
esteem and going, Okay, I have something to offer the world.
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And I think that's pretty special.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
It's so essential.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I was laughing when you're talking about the man skills.
My daughter, my youngest one, actually.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Just graduated high school.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Of course, for graduation, there's been a lot of we
live by the beach, there's a lot of beach bonfires, a.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
Lot of partying going on.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
She's the one that starts the bonfires at the beach.
She's the one with the like the skills to turn
on the little propane torch, build the wood up and
start a fire.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
And I'm going, you're kidding me, Like none of the
other boys are, like nobody, no, Mom.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
They make me do it because I know how to
do it. And I go, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (13:41):
The kids can actually do it. But it's so essential, right,
and hey, hey, here's the deal.
Speaker 5 (13:47):
That's on us, right, It's on us as parents, like
that's that's a.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Big part of this, right.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
I'm definitely not a you know, I'm not going to
point a finger and go look, you know, it's just
this generation with it. No, Hey, that's on us as
parents then too, So how are we leading again? That's
why when we're talking about what we want to do,
it's not just let's build these campuses and let's let's
get the use of today back to where we think
that you know that they are leading like we'd like
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to see in leading also hate parents. They need to
see you doing this by example, and too, let's get
you growing at the same time, because if that's on us,
you know.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
It really is well and it's such a snowball effect,
I think. And getting back to the you know, the
skill working with your hands, accomplishing something, even if it's
like screwing something in or drill and putting a little
piece of what together or something, that leads to confidence
for the next thing that's harder, and then the next
harder thing, and then you know, and pretty soon you've
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got it's not just skills, but it's inner fortitude and
confidence you know that I can do that, and then
that multiplies in all of the different aspects to life.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I think super cool.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am. Your spot off.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
So the mentors, let's talk a little bit about you know,
it's you kind of have your core group, the founders
of Apage and coaches. But you mentioned the mentors that
come in. What what are their roles and how often
do they do they interact with the boys or girls
in the mentorship program.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
That's a great question. So it you know, it depends
on the mentor.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
When when I talk about, you know, the mentors that
we have, we're talking high level mentors, and you go
onto our website you can see some of the mentors
that have come in, and I mean we can go
down the list of just you know, Tulci Gabbert is
a dear friend of mine and she's come in, you know,
a couple of times. Carry Lee Walsh's a little Bay
Area legend.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
She's come in.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
She's come in a couple of times. We just had,
you know, Sage Steel, that Alex her Mosey, Andy Frizella.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I mean, I can go who's who live?
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Actually it is.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
A who's who list, it really is, And so it
really depends on that. And obviously these are all world
changing individuals, and so if they are on if they
are on that site, they have at least come in
for a couple hours to pour into people at some point.
But the majority of them come in, you know, on
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multiple occasions. They will also show up to some of
our live events and our reunions to pour in in person.
So it really depends, you know, obviously on the mentor
how deep our relationship is with those individuals. And so,
but every week, the young people are getting to end
by the way, moms and the dead. I had the
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men's call earlier today. The women are having their call
tonight actually right now as we speak. And guest mentors
come in every single week for our tribe, and it's
either a new mentor that they've never met before or
one of those one of those existing you know that
that's a weekly call. And then we build out coaches
internally to just make sure that we've got some of
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our own who are also mentoring from the standpoint of, Hey,
I've been through this roadmap that you are all going
through right now. Here's how I tech, Here's how you
should tackle it. Here's how I tackle it. Here's what
I learned, Here's what I would have done differently. How
can I help serve you?
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Right?
Speaker 5 (17:12):
So we've got you know, obviously, all these very well
known people just are our people who have gone through
this too, are continuing to give back and and kind
of pay it forward to So it's this is a
weekly a weekly d deal with these with these caliber people.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
So inspiring, it just feels like we really have run.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
Sorry, well, I.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Just it's so much fun. Oh, it's so much fun.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
It really is so much fun with us.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Well.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
To get a glimpse of different if you go down
the list of mentors is like UFC athletes, I can
appreciate that we love UFC right, people that have been
at the top of their game somehow, whether it's media
and journalism, or athletics or corporate and to get to
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those top level spots, it's like, you know, the road
to that has been full of bumps and fits and starts,
and it's the journey that's instructive that the kids need
to hear, you know, how do you overcome the roadblocks
and your own like disappointments and rejection and the full
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gamut of getting to where you know, having a vision
and achieving it.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
That really is super instructive.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
That's right, that's exactly it's. It is such a it's
that it's it's pointing eyes to the horizon and going look.
You know, you dive in and you learn this this
world changer that everybody knows.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Guess what, he was just like me.
Speaker 5 (18:49):
She was just like me, and she didn't have it
all figured out. And he still doesn't think he has
it all figured out. And you know, you hear those stories.
And then what's what's beautiful is, over the course of
the year or longer you're talking to so many of
these people, inherently you start seeing patterns. Right, success loves clues.
So you start seeing all of these patterns of success.
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You start hearing all the patterns of like you said,
overcoming certain things and being resilient and where you know
smart risk was taken. And you know how intentional they
are about their the tribal people around them, How intentional
they are about you know, their own reading and their
own growth, how intentional they are about their own physical health,
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how intentional they are about you know, every single aspect.
You start to see these patterns and these young people
and again moms and dads too. What's cool is that
they've realized you actually never know what call is going
to change your life. It may be somebody that is
wildly famous and you're like, I'm so excited to talk
to them, and then the call will be great and
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he's like, yeah, that.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Was that was awesome.
Speaker 5 (19:57):
And then it may be a call with somebody that
you're like, I have no idea who this is, but
I got on there and it was the exact story
that I needed to change everything. And it's so much
fun to watch that happen week over week over week.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Well, I am super inspired. I'm really glad to have
you on today. We're gonna pause for a break, Matt,
so hang tight with me for a couple of minutes
and then we'll be back. All right, everybody, this is
Mama Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here, my guest, Matt Purdreaux,
CEO of Apage Strong or Programs right plural. There's there's
many branches to what they offer. I'm super glad to
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have him today. So everybody, we're gonna take a break.
Stand by.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I'll be right back Mama Bear's Radio, Bears Radio, We'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (21:13):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's radio Kristin Hurley here, I
have a guess at this hour Matt bidrou from Apage Strong,
and we were chatting about what it takes to raise leaders,
the leaders of tomorrow, benefiting or prospering our next generation,
as I like to say, and we've been talking about
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their mentorship program.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
I wanted, Matt, I want to.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Delve a little bit more into some of the tools
that you are bequeathing to these young people. And this
is your young women and young men mentorship program. And
I love, I love some of this. Mastering self discipline,
overcoming weakness and self doubt, building a brotherhood, leading through service,
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building real world grit. How I mean, how many kids
give up after the first try these days, Strength and
body and mind, facing adversity like a warrior, taking responsibility
for your actions. All of these are so so important.
Mastering financial independence starts at home. Our nation's bankrupt and
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out of control spending.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
How do we change that?
Speaker 5 (22:22):
Well?
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Need to instill the value.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Of money and financial responsibility for the men, respecting and
understanding women. Thank you excellent speaking with confidence power. The
list goes on of essential life skills, not only you know,
to help themselves through life but to be the ones
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that set the tone an example for the rest of
their peers in the next generation and pass that along.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
I'm curious a little.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Bit, Matt, like, how do you find from the I
want to say students, but the young men and women
in your mentorship program, what are some recurring themes that
you hear from them about their experiences? You know, young
adults are coming of age in the land of TikTok
and Instagram, Like, how what are their main themes that
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they struggle with?
Speaker 5 (23:21):
Would you say, Yeah, that's a really good question, and
you know, you kind of started to allude to it there,
So I'll tell you with the young men all of
the above what you're saying. The you know, social media
ends up being kind of a thing that can be
a distraction. It can you know, create kind of social
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angst it creates. You know this when I say addiction,
there's the actual physiology, like physiology involved in this, and
you know, there's this lack of motivation. But for the
young men in particular, the thing that hits the hardest,
the biggest struggle that they'll be very open with, uh,
is it's video games. That's you know, and again I
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can't make it a blanket statement to where this is
impacting every young man. I would never say that, but
I will tell you that's a conversation that I've had
over and over and over again for years, in years
and years, video games becoming an addiction, becoming something that
takes the place of real world experience, becoming something that
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checks off all these boxes that young men naturally have,
right They the young men naturally want to they want
to create, they want to compete, they want to you know,
work to slay the dragon and save the princess.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
You know kind of kind of thing.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
But they're checking all of this off in a virtual fashion.
And then there is actual physiology behind that, where you know,
you're getting these these giant dopamine hits from playing these
video games. But dopamine's like a swimming pool. If you're
go to you know, if you're going to drain it,
you got to fill it back up, and you got
to give you.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Got to give it time.
Speaker 5 (24:58):
And these young men are spending out and hours and
hours on these games, and so it's killing the dopamine.
So they really are physiologically impressed and don't want to go,
you know, get into the real world, right, So for
the young men, video games, and then I will tell
you an offshoot of that, and people will say, that's
not an offshoot of it, but it is is pornography,
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you know, and young men being faced with that, being
exposed to that, being tempted by that. You know, young
men are already going to be tempted because it's so accessible,
but having their friends around them, you know, exposing them
to that. So for the young men, it's that. For
the young ladies, you know, all of those things are relevant,
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but it's the social media part of it that is
creating so much angst and anxiety for them, at least
in our experience. That's that's the the majority. And I
don't work, I don't work directly with the young ladies
as much. I'll go on and see them and pour
into them where I can, But we need ladies pouring
into them. So we have male coaches, you know, female
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women and young women who are pouring into them more often,
and so that would be a better question for them.
But that's what I hear from the coaches and the
social media time for our young ladies.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Yeah, Well, my my husband is kind of a in
the tech realm a Silicon Valley engineer type. And he's
constantly told my daughters, the algorithms are telling you to
scro They're they're helping the doom scrolling more than you know.
And it's curated for you to draw you in and
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you like, an hour's gone by, and you look up
and you're like, oh, shoot, I lost an hour of
my life.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
It's by design.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
So it's there's some strong, strong forces working against getting
our kids up and out of that. Well, I want
to talk a little bit more about helping them learn
to communicate, because it's like, if you, if you distill down, well,
what are the major problems in our society today, in
our nation and maybe perhaps worldwide whatever. There's so many
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to choose from, but communication is one of them. Expressing
yourself accurately, like having clarity of thought, being solid in
your perspective, and then being able to output that communicate
that to someone else. You know, what are some of
the ways you approach that with the young young men
and young women.
Speaker 5 (27:28):
Mentorship great great question and great question, and communication is
one of those what we call a mena skill. It
is a skill that we believe matters always to all people.
All time, you know, across the board.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
So it's we attack that.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
From a number of different perspectives. So one, in order
to communicate well, you do need clarity of thought. And
clarity of thought comes in a number of ways, but
one it does come with writing. So we do encourage writing,
but not writing, you know, essays for essays, say right,
that's that sounds like school. But writing out your ideas,
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writing out your thoughts, writing out reflections on books you've read,
writing out reflections on conversations, writing out the stories that
live in your mind that maybe create.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
A little bit of chaos or a little bit of
sadness or a little.
Speaker 5 (28:19):
Bit of what if we write those out and we
revisit those and we really take a look at it,
sometimes you find that when you put it objectively on paper,
now it's something you can look at and go, Okay,
you know what that's actually I'm gonna go ahead and
tell myself a different story about this story.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
You know.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
The self esteem sometimes starts with the stories.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
You tell yourself about yourself.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
And so we have them write and reflect, you know,
in various on various things to really push themselves through
and see what do I actually think about this, So
that's one element of it. Obviously, the weekly calls where
they are engaging with and getting comfortable engaging with very
high level individuals, that is helpful. They are talking directly
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to these individuals, they're asking questions, they're getting feedback. We
give them a framework for asking really good questions, so
they'll operate within that framework until they have their own
framework developed and so the last these questions and gain
these responses. But then even outside of the mentors on
those live calls will also take them through some socratic conversations.
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Well maybe you put them as a protagonist in a
scenario and go, okay, you've got choice A or you've
got choice B. Which one you want to take? You know,
what does that look like? Why are you choosing this
over this?
Speaker 4 (29:34):
And will allow.
Speaker 5 (29:35):
Them to formulate again what do I think about certain things?
We'll actually think and we'll engage in those kinds of
conversations and almost you know, debate with them. So we'll
do those things. And then some of those projects that
they have throughout the throughout the months. Again they're interviewing CEOs,
they're interviewing law enforcement, they're interviewing military, but they're also
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going out and presenting. You know, they're doing and specific
public speaking challenges. They're also going out and doing door
to door almost a sale online giveaway, that this is
one of the most fun exercises we have. That there
is a month where they have this challenge that really
requires some some cajones and going door to door and
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you're meeting some strangers and not in an unsafe fashion.
There's more to it. You don't have to go just
door to door, but it's a sales and marketing challenge
that is really really unique, and it really like teeters
on the success, teeters on your ability to communicate and
to figure out how to continue to communicate with strangers.
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And it is so fun and so inspiring to watch them.
So we're putting them in all of these scenarios where
communication matters orally and in a written fashion, and you
see the ship, you fundamentally see the young people if
they stick with it.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah, I would say from my experience observing and you know,
hearing from my own kids, there's always a loud one
in the room with very loud let's just say political
opinions or opinions on something, and it takes incredible guts
for someone to stand up to that, especially in a
public setting, and say, well I disagree, and here's a
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different perspective, and here's what I think, and be unafraid
to be, you know, beat down by the more powerful personality,
so to speak, or the fear of saying something wrong,
like the group think in the world. And this goes
for adults too, obviously, is so powerful to you know,
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to stand up and to propose a different viewpoint or
just even ask a question takes a lot of guts.
And so I appreciate that aspect to this that you're
helping the kids again have those tiny experiences that build
the build the self confidence, yes to you know, pull
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that out when when the time is right.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
Well, Matt, standby.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
We are gonna be on our last break here, and
so if everybody can just hang tight, we have one
more segment coming up. My guest today Matt Boudreaux, CEO
of Apage Strong Programs. And as soon as my computer
co operates here, we were gonna be taking our last
break at the hour. This is Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin
(32:29):
Hurley here, I'll.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Be right back.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Got out of town on a bot.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Sailing a reache bar following SA she was making bar
the trades on the outside. I'm the down.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Welcome back to Mama Bears Radio.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Kristin Hurley.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Here my guest this hour, Matt Budreau, CEO of Apage Strong,
raising Leaders for UH for the future of our nation.
I absolutely love everything about this program.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
I encourage everyone to look them up.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
It's appa ge now that's spelled a po gee apa
G Strong. Do you google, Matt? Do you want to
tell us where? What even does apag mean? Where's that
name come from?
Speaker 5 (33:36):
That's a really yeah, that's a really good question. So
the apage is like the approach to the summit of something.
It's approached to the to the highest level. So you know,
when you are approaching the summit of the mountain, you're
approaching the apage of the mountain.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
And so that's, you know, just kind.
Speaker 5 (33:50):
Of paying homage to the fact that, you know, we're
all here to continue to grow. There's no such thing
as perfection. That's not possible and not going to be
the perfect mod the perfect dad, the perfect young Persian.
But there's always room to grow and to continue to climb.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
And so that's what it's in reference to.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
Very inspiring.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Well, I want to talk a little bit in our
last segment here about this concept of freedom. It's something
I talk about all the time and I always say, well,
you know, I'm a gen xer, and somehow in my
young years I had instilled a complete and total reverence
for the uniqueness of our nation, the founding fathers in
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their bravery and creativity to put on paper an entirely
new way of government, excuse me self, governance and.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
What that means.
Speaker 2 (34:42):
And I think obviously, like a lot of us, millions
of us, we had to really re examine that in
the last is starting twenty twenty and the sort of
the tumultuous decade we're in, and I had to go back,
and you know, I had that sense about me and
was in like extreme defiance of anyone to try and
(35:03):
come and take it from me. But you know, again,
it begs a relearning of the Bill of Rights and
the way the constitution in our government is set up,
and what does that mean and where are the boundaries
and all of that. So, you know, I know that's
something that's important in Apogee that you're instilling in young.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
People as well.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
They're not getting it in schools, they may not be
getting it necessarily at home.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It is.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I don't know, it's a complex topic to be able
to weave in what does the nation mean? Why do
we have what we say American exceptionalism? What about our
nation has worked all these years? And what is freedom
and liberty? So how do you approach those subjects with
your young men and women mentorship programs?
Speaker 5 (35:51):
Yeah, it's such a great question, It's such a great conversation.
It is far more it's far more complex when the
individual lives it out, But it really is simple to present.
And that's that's kind of what we've found is if
we present something very simply and provide a very simple
road mapp, then you let the beauty and complexity of humanity,
you know, they can take it from there. And the
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reverse is also true, which is why I'm not a
huge fan of the schooling system, because all of the
overly complex systems also tend to get simple human beings,
and so that's obviously not what we want. So, you know,
we really look at it in two ways. One, do
we want to give them the historical context, talk about
the founding Fathers, the Bill of Rights.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
Take a look at us.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Of course, we want them to have that general knowledge.
We want them to understand, you know, why what what
people were fighting for them.
Speaker 4 (36:38):
More importantly, we want them.
Speaker 5 (36:40):
To understand how that actually looks like, how do how
does somebody actually behave when they are behaving as a
sovereign human? So what is the definition of freedom and sovereignty?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
Like what is that? You know?
Speaker 5 (36:57):
The Socrates say at the beginning of wisdom is the
day definition of terms? So what do those terms mean?
But more importantly, how does it look? So again, the
mentors that come in, you know, we want to talk
to them about, well, what does sovereignty mean to you?
What does that looks up to you? How does that
play out? How do you live a sovereign life? So
you say, look, I'm going to do life the way
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I want to do it, with the people I want
to do it to. I'm not going to have to
ask permissions in people. But I'm going to do this
so that I can serve others, not so that I
can be served. How does that look? Who are the
people that are living in this way? And it starts
between the ears like sovereignty and creative and the most
powerful cages are invisible. It is the you know, I
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think I have to ask permission. I think I have
to shut down because everybody says I have to shut down.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
I didn't shut down.
Speaker 5 (37:44):
My businesses in twenty twenty either, right there, because I
didn't shu to so I didn't. It was just it's
it's really similiar.
Speaker 4 (37:52):
But I can walk them, right.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
And so I've walked the kids through, like this is
what happened. I saw this coming, this is what we
told to me, this is what was said to me,
and this is what I chose to do in response
because I had the right to continue to operate my business.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I had the right to continue.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
So here's how I showed that I had that right.
Speaker 4 (38:13):
You know, I showed it from a.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
You know, the standpoint of taking a look at the
constitution and going here's why I'm going to say open.
But more importantly, I did it.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Now what comes with that? There's pushback.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
There's pushback from maybe it's a pushback from local legislators,
maybe push back from you know, people who you sought
were your friends and people who are your family who
are saying, how dare you push back against the narrative
whatever that is, and you have to understand that part
of sovereignty and freedom is being at peace with making
hard decisions, and not everybody would be okay, is that right?
(38:45):
So again it's it's a very long tail, multifaceted conversation,
but everything we do points to at direction.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah, And throughout this whole conversation with you, I keep
wanting to say, well, you know, can't kids just get this?
Speaker 3 (39:05):
And there shouldn't they be.
Speaker 2 (39:06):
Getting this a at home, be maybe from a church
or church community if you're plugged in, or you know,
a smaller community at large. It feels like there was
a day and maybe I don't you know, I don't
want to idealize anything, but I feel like, sure there
were times gone by where young men and women, the
(39:26):
adults in the room modeled these things of self discipline
and responsibility, and you know, going down the list of
your modules is the stoic mind, right, and motivation and
all of that, and the.
Speaker 3 (39:41):
Kids didn't have to flail.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
To you know, to a certain degree, like I said,
we've we've dropped the ball on modeling this, and so
I really do appreciate that you guys are recognizing that
these are holes that need to be filled.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
And you're offering it out there.
Speaker 2 (39:58):
So this is so you know, a see, there's obviously
it's remote to a large extent. This is for anyone
across the land to look into and possibly join a
program for themselves or their children.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Do you guys, I mean.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
How else have you how have you seen your growth
in the last several years. Is it just word of
mouth or how are you guys reaching and finding families.
Speaker 4 (40:24):
Yeah, that's that's a really good question.
Speaker 5 (40:26):
Well, it goes back to what you were just saying too,
or it needs to be modeled. That's why the moms
and the dads matter so much, right, we want that
to be normal in the household, but we also want
these normal hubs in the community. So, you know, the growth,
it has been organic, It has been word of mouth.
But it's not just the online mentorship programs, these virtual components.
(40:47):
We have got over one hundred physical K through twelve
and or K through university locations that people have decided
to partner with us to launch in their own hometown.
And so they're launching these K through twelve or K
through university campuses in their hometown. And when they do that,
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they're inviting all these young people who come in. It's
a physical location to meet and we're providing you know,
the curriculum, the context. They're automatically connected with our mentorship programs.
The moms and dads who are sending their kids there
are automatically connected with our men's and women's mentorship programs,
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and they start building out local hubs for education, so
that we start building strong families in strong communities in
these physical local hubs. The virtual was how we started,
and it's great. It'll always be a part to keep
everybody connected, but the end goal is more and more
(41:53):
of these physical locations that people and then we just
can connect with each other across the country.
Speaker 4 (41:59):
Right.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
It's great to be able to have all the family
that you know at our Long Island, New York campus
connecting with the families at our Salt Lake City campus,
and of course we do that virtually, but then you know,
they're responsible for leading their local community and building this hub,
and then we can all get together at our annual
family reunion in Texas and I and we can all
(42:20):
you know, all get together and celebrate and hug each other.
But you know, we'll connect virtually throughout the local meeting hubs.
Speaker 4 (42:26):
Are where it's at.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
I had no idea that your physical locations were so
so broad. I had no idea you're at one hundred
one hundred plus.
Speaker 5 (42:37):
That is so cool, yes, ma'am, just in the last year.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
Well, my hat's off to you, and I super appreciate
you know a your time with me today and be
the you know energy and the way that you're doing
your part to help our next generation. It's like I said,
it's like I'll save the Narn Country myself, but we
have to bequeath it to kids. They can handle that.
So thank you for all of that. And we have
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like just a minute left, so.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
One more time. How people can find you?
Speaker 5 (43:08):
You bet, I appreciate that, and I appreciate you being
on the same team very much a voice on the
same team. So anybody can go to apputystrong dot com
a p O G E E strong dot com see
what we're doing there. If you're on social media, we're
at Appetu program. People can also reach out to me
directly at Matt Bodrow on most social media platforms as well.
So yeah, I very much appreciate you. Christen.
Speaker 3 (43:29):
Well, this has been cool.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
We will have to stay in touch and just check
in periodically, keep tabs on on your growth path. And
I again, my hat's off to everybody, and I appreciate
your time. Well, we'll sign off here. Matt, thank you
so much for joining Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 4 (43:45):
It was an honor. I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
All Right, everybody there is our number one of Mama
Bear's Radio. I'm going to take my top of the
hour break and be back next hour, just me and
all of my minipas. No, I really have some fantastic
stuff to share. Santa Clara University, Gone Haywire, the gender
(44:08):
bending Maddess Clinic in Los Angeles, down the tubes. So
that's a win, all right, Mama Bears Radio. Kristin Hurley here,
I'm gonna sign off for the sour. I'll be back
in just a few minutes.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
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the pop Chars, medicine.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Is magical and magical, it's hot and those the boy
in the.
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