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August 6, 2025 • 46 mins
Catchy title, huh. This hour I cover a few tips on protecting delicate eyes from getting to internet smut.... at least in your own household. Great resource = protectyoungyeyes.com
Plus we discuss how the AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) is watching the dollar signs slip through their fingers and hoping to remove all exemptions from childhood vax requirements in EVERY STATE in the NATION. Data shows more and more families are refraining from questionable "medical" products ... and the industry is big mad.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
The California Mama Bears have been forced out of hibernation.
Fierce guardians of our future, Mama Bear's fight for parents' rights,
defense of the family, and God given freedoms everywhere. You're
listening to Mama Bears Radio with your host The New Normal,

(00:32):
Kristin Hurley.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome back to Mama Bears Radio.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
Kristin Hurley. Here, I'm just falling.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Out of my chair here in the studio and we
are halfway through my just fantastic, amazing program.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm kidding here on.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
A lovely Monday afternoon at AM thirteen forty kom y
and as I said, I think I chatted my way
through an entire hour and I've only just scratched the
surface as usual, So I kind of want to jump
in here this hour if you are just joining me.
Last hour, I talked about ABY four ninety five again.

(01:14):
There are still bills filtering their way through the California
state legislature.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
This one's a doozy.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I beg everyone to go and get your eyeballs on
it and let it be known that I think this
is just gross and appropriate over reach by the State
of California.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Leaving your kids vulnerable.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, without beating that horse again, let's move on here.
So I want to talk about protecting our kids from pornography. Now,
I feel like, and I've mentioned this before, you know
I might be one to talk on this all best
practices and intentions considered. I think I have said on air,

(02:01):
I feel like, you know, I didn't shore up my family,
my kids as best as I could. It's not something
anybody really wants to face and deal with, and as
it's been kind of an evolving moving target kind of
coming of age, both children and technology wise, you know,

(02:23):
for my family's experience with social media and the computer
and the computer lifestyle and the smartphone lifestyle. And even
though I held out a bit on my kids phone wise,
we held out a bit on a number of things.
I you know, I didn't go just full metal jacket

(02:45):
on my kids in monitoring them. And you know, as
I've said, it's no longer a helicopter parent, it's a
drone parent. But you know, my kids have been allowed
a certain level of you know, their own autonomy and
sort of their own space. And you know, I definitely

(03:06):
didn't crack down on this subject as much as I
could have should have would a And I, you know,
as I always say, the jury is out, however, and
I'm not saying that there's never been pornography until this
crazy day and age. That's shortsighted. Obviously, it's a going

(03:28):
concern for just about everybody in all ages and all
days of the human life span across the millennia on
this planet. I'm not, you know, not pooling anybody, but
because it's become just so incredibly pervasive, and stories abound
of young, young kids. You put a phone in somebody's

(03:51):
hand in the backseat of the car, lord knows what
they're looking at. And kids love to share, and stuff
spreads like wildfire. And anecdotally speaking, there are so many
instances of someone, oh I saw so, my friend past
me a web somebody sent me a link, Well, oh
I got a picture, somebody messaged me on xyz platform,

(04:13):
And it's often a way you go. And kids are
younger and younger being exposed to the dirty underworld of humanity.
So what do we do about it? And again, I'm
not a perfect saint. I am not preaching to my
own choir here necessarily, I am preaching my own choir. Sorry,
but I'm not like on a high horse telling you

(04:35):
all which you should do, because I've got it.

Speaker 3 (04:36):
All right and perfect.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
It's just under the umbrella of raising up our kids
in the next generation. We have to have to help
them to be whole people that are in one piece
emotionally and psychologically and can handle themselves in the future
and are not damaged now, you know. And in the

(04:59):
same breath it's like you, I am not a fearmonger parent.
You cannot keep your kids safe.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I'm not into that.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I believe there's got to be a balance of letting
them rome. I think last week I was talking about
let the let grow dot org people and pre range
kids along with your free range chickens and free range
goat some pigs or whatever you're raising. You know, let
your kids go and have the life experiences that build
them up and give them that solid foundation.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Well, on the other side of the coin.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
Is a certain amount of freedom in a way that's
going to degrade them and bring them down, not build
them up and fortify them, not give them that strength
of self resilience and you know, life experiences that builds
perspective for them and all those really good things we
want them to come out of childhood with knowing who

(05:55):
they are and carrying values you know, about what is
life and real relationships and how do you treat people
and how do you conduct yourself? And who are you
in the world, all of those fantastic things that you know,
we dream that we're gonna, you know, lego building block
build our kids up to the runaway internet world. The

(06:18):
darker side of the connectivity, life side, lifestyle, the social media,
and the addiction to TikTok and YouTube shorts. It is
juicy addiction, addiction like I'm you know, I scroll TikTok,
not TikTok. Sorry, I scroll Twitter, And you're like, oh,

(06:40):
give me more, give me more?

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Can I fast? Can I scroll?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
It happens to everybody. You can't deny it. A phone
dings in the room and you're a little you start salivating.
It's tangibly true. But I'm saying the pull and the
lure of that and the darker side of the social media.
Who's the keeping up with the Kardashians. It's a very
general sort of euphemism for that. And then the pull

(07:07):
of the seriously darker and depraved side of images and
acts that your children should not be eyeballing is gonna
bring them down and degrade them. And how do we
how do we possibly start to take the edge off

(07:29):
of that and at least give them a you know,
a flying chance at being protected is as long as
possible from that.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
And while you're building.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Them up in order, you know, to ideally be someone
that doesn't need that is not susceptible to a true
and strong addiction. You want them to be able to
have relationships and know what healthy sex is life like yay,
you know like that in an ideal world, we've turned
out a generation that values one another is humans, not

(08:03):
blow up sex dolls and not images of Lord knows
what AI fantasies now that.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Appeals to.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Really base level down in there anyways, So, without further ado,
and came across this piece from a guy who has
a really really cool website and platform. He writes about
his five layers of digital protection how to protect kids
from porn. His website is protect Young Eyes. In fact,

(08:38):
I was in the middle of dialing that up and
do there goes the clackity clack Protect youngiyes dot com
tons and tons of resources we help families protect kids online.
It's tangible, achievable stuff for you to do at a

(08:58):
base level to protect your family and protect your kids.
There's all sorts of like kind of assessments of your
household and technology and usage. There are talks, live talks
for students, parents, professionals, tools, and helping schools go phone

(09:18):
free right if you're gonna want to someone that wants
to encourage their school and the teachers to.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
Put the phone and phones away.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
The site says we believe in giving kids and teens
the right tech at the right time. The tech journey
is slow and intentional. This allows children and parents to
learn technology together. And again, all sorts of resources broken
down for age groups age three to five, six to nine,
ten to thirteen and beyond. And then my personal favorite

(09:47):
is your home tech Ready nine questions. Know where you
might have digital safety gaps in your home, review your devices,
They review top apps and tools devices for your home.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
All sorts of stuff.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Check it out protect young eyes dot com. When we
come back, let me read a little bit from Chris McKenna,
who's the founder Protect young Eyes. He's actually, you know,
like I said, he's got his pyramid, his five layers
of digital protection. I want to go through those as
best I can here, so let me take my break

(10:24):
and when I come back, we will hear from Chris McKenna,
who's the founder of this pretty handy, tangible, usable resource,
Protect Young Eyes dot Com. All right, everybody, Mama Bear's Radio.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Kristen Hurley here. I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Mama Bear's Radio.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, Safe
and effective Radio. All right, guys, we're in our second
hour here and I am chit chatting my way through it.
So I'm going to try and shore up and get
to the point here. So I'm talking about a website
I came across called Protect Young Eyes. This is by

(11:29):
a guy Chris McKenna is the founder, and he's talking
about in this article a substack.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
I read his piece.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
How to Protect your Kids from Pornography, and again that's
a moving target. Have you ever heard of one? But again,
any little edge that we can take off if you
want to fortify your home, and I know a lot
of people you would don't even know where to start
with that. So his website has great resource versus. This

(12:00):
article is pretty good you know. He starts off by saying,
I recently received the following Instagram message from a mother
who follows my work at Protecting Young Eyes, and the
mother says, I just caught my eleven eleven year old
at two am looking at porn Hub.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
I'm totally heartbroken.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Blah blah blah blah blah. He was on an iPad
and she, you know, she's bummed. And Chris mckinna says,
I wish messages like this were uncommon. Sadly, iPhones and
iPads have back doors to porn everywhere.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
It's a problem. He says.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
Eighty seven percent of American teens have a phone, iPhone,
or iPad. He says, even if you've activated activated screen Time,
which is Apple's controls, quote unquote, toggled Apple Safari browser
and checked limit adult websites, which is supposed to activate
a content filter, he says, I can still see porn

(12:59):
through a hidden bird houser in the Bible app, So
there's ways around all that.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
The controls suck.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Basically, he says, although all difficult to measure, one study
estimates the seven percent of online video traffic is pornographic.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
To use an analog illustration.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Imagine four magazines on the coffee table in your living
room every morning when you were growing up, and one
of them was porn, three of them weren't, and your
parents just hoped you didn't pick up the porn magazine.
That is what it's like giving our kids access to
anything digital and unfiltered today. Because, as the song goes,
he says, the Internet is for porn. And I'm dying

(13:39):
to know what that link where song is underlined, it's
a link, but.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I don't have that up here, all right.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
To illustrate this point further, in twenty twenty four alone,
there were total of one million, six hundred and fifty
nine thousand videos uploaded to porn Hub. The site boasted
over thirteen point five million videos by the year twenty twenty,
including thousands of videos of illegally filmed minors. And we

(14:12):
know it's pervasive, So let me try to cut to
the chase here so he's you know, he says, Researching
online pornography is difficult, it's unethical to randomly assign children
to view it, and a large body of evidence shows
that exposure today's easily accessible, highly stimulating pornography posed a
significant risk to children's social emotional development.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
We knew that, Okay. Analysis obviously.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
In twenty twenty three of twenty seven studies over sixteen
thousand youth found that children in adolescents exposed to sexual content,
especially violent or live sexual content, had significantly higher odds
of engaging and problematic sexual behaviors. Some smart person wrote that, Okay,
it's a problem. Next paragraph, it's a problem. Next paragraph,

(15:05):
it's a problem. Next paragraph, it's a total problem. I'm
trying to skim through this because I have other stuff
I want to get to today. Okay, I did read
I Think a while ago substack by Freya India, who
is a gen Z.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
Girl slash woman who.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wrote about this growing up in the easy porn.

Speaker 3 (15:26):
Melee of the gen Z world.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
And so Chris mckinneth says here, it's time to take
this seriously. We want our children to find love someday
and take pleasure and intimate relationships. They must not learn
about sex from porn videos. And if governments and regulatory
agencies insist on doing little to nothing to age gate
the Internet, then entire responsibility for protection falls upon parents.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
What can we do?

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So here he leads into five layers of digital protection
and the big bottom layer. At the bottom layer one
is build relationship. Now this is the tough one. You're like, yeah,
I have a decent relationship with my kids. We talk
about all sorts of cool stuff. Well, but you actually

(16:12):
talk about the big, big old P word, the elephant
in the room. Probably not, I'm not sure, the pot
calling the kettle black.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Here.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
As I said when I started this hour, we've all
been found wanting I think, in this subject, in this area.
But obviously, if you can go for it, build a relationship,
he says, talk about porn early, probably two years before
you want to. They say, quote ten before ten, ten

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talks before the age of ten. Make it a normal
conversation and be the authority. I'm sure your kids can
land safely with you when they see it, So that
does make sense. It's out there, kids, It's just like
you're swimming at New Brighton Beach and you're like, there
are great white sharks out there.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Don't go too far kids.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Okay, Well, you know the Internet includes these landmines. Ten
conversations before ten. You know this doesn't need to be
hours long. It's little drops, it's little drip drops of
letting them know that you know, and just.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
Conveying that.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
It's something that you're aware of. Obviously there's a lot
to that I want to keep going here, but Layer one,
build a relationship.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
Layer two hug your router.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
And it's funny, like I say, oh, well, the router, this, that,
and the other world. Do I really even know what
I'm talking about? Kind of sort of not really not
super at tech person, Probably not many of you are.
I distinctly you know that is my husband's jurisdiction now.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
And I happen to be in a.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Household that has a guy that is an engineer and
has been a computer guy since before there were computers,
and he knows everything darn welder is to know about
the wiring of the internet in the house and all
of our devices and all of the all of the
details all the way from our simple little household to

(18:25):
gigantic huge server farms and whatever. He's got to grasp
on that not everybody does. And so I think what
was particularly good about this protect young Eyes dot com
website is you can find some specific details.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
In there of what to do.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
He's saying, the router is your most important digital device
in your home because it's the gateway for what the
devices at home that are connected to the Internet. You're
providing at home Wi Fi specifically, not to sell network
that's a whole other way to get your Internet, but
at least the devices that connect to the Internet coming

(19:08):
into your house.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
The router, he says, is the control.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Routers help families with both control and culture control because
your router allows an Internet signal to enter your home
like your front door and a lock on the front door.
A router with a filter and time controls and VPN
blockers and other monitoring features can prevent harm from entering
your home.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
He says.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Young children most often just use only Wi Fi devices
think chromebooks, tablets, smart TVs, MacBooks, and gaming consoles. That
means they depend on your router to connect to the Internet.
A good router can lock in safe search and YouTube
restricted mode, block pop ups, and prevent access to harmful sites.
A good router can prevent an accidental early childhood exposure

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to pornography, and then the culture part of that because
good router lets everyone know it's important to block porn
on your home Internet. If you're not sure how to
set up a new router, ask your child to help
you tongue in cheek, you know, and and that's an
opportunity for that first layer of relationship, explain what the
router does and why you need better controls on it.

(20:17):
It also sets you up for conversation about burner phones
and secret devices. Right there, are your kid brings home
a device from school that you don't really know about.
Somebody's got an extra, somebody gets a new iPhone because
kids get new phones every year. Apparently I didn't know that,
and they flip your your kid the one from last
year that still works perfectly fine, can connect to your WiFi.

(20:41):
You didn't know your kid had that phone. Burner phones
are super cheapy and easy to get, and you know,
with the right set up at home, you can see
every device that's connecting to the Wi Fi through the
router and you and even set controls like allowing them

(21:02):
permissions kind of a thing. They don't just automatically get
on the internet, all right. Layer three monitor every device, right,
That's what I was just talking about.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
You can have controls.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Either with you know, your through your internet or the
operating system level, or by using third party software. And
this allows for you like I just said, to know
what devices.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
Are on at any given time.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Oh are there is there an extra phone in your
house you didn't know about, or an iPads school, a
school chromebook or whatever. So some monitoring at that level
is essential. Again, that's in a perfect ideal world. But

(21:52):
any little chipping away at this that we can get
I think is at least a step in the right
direction and offers you an opportunity again to kind of
bring this, bring the icky, sticky subject up with your
kids the other layers. Because I'm gonna go to my
break here. When we come back, I think I'm gonna
talk about other stuff, location and app If you want

(22:16):
more info on this, how to protect your kids protect
youngiys dot com again, this guy Chris McKenna, the founder
of that organization. There's tons and tons of resources on
that site, and towards that end of just giving your
kid any extra edge, any extra support from you as

(22:39):
a parent to approach this touchy subject in at least
a frank and forthright way to help stave off some
of the landmines. If you're like I said, if you're
taking two percent off a potentially rough problem, it's worth it.

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So I encourage everyone to look into that when we
come back. Let's see, I'm gonna spin the wheel. I
think that's what I need to do for myself here.
Every day I come in with like a list of
stuff to to talk about, big pile of papers. I
need to spin the wheel. I need a wheel of
fortune for myself. For Mama Bear's Mama Bear's Radio topics,
and we'll see what lands next. All right, everybody, safe

(23:23):
and effective radio. This is Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here,
I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Mama Bear's Radio.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
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Speaker 3 (23:58):
On the strain, but the mother child.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
Emotion.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, your
new normal, all of ours new normal. And we're just
kind of hacking through some of the subjects that I
just consider under the Mama Bear's umbrella to be just
stuff that's going to concern us all raising kids, raising
up the next generation. How do we build them up

(24:32):
and fortify them and avoid the land mines? So lassa
first half of this hour we were talking about a
pretty rad land mines. I want to change a little
bit now. Direction and the other week. I want to
say this was two weeks ago. The American Academy of

(24:53):
Pediatrics came out with the big old statement they want
to shut down religious vaccine exis exemptions for the hire
everybody's everything. Currently, California is one.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Of four states that, as we.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Well know, doesn't allow any religious or philosophical exemptions to
school vaccine mandates. There's other states, and medical exemptions are
few and far between. So if you're here in California
and what are the other ones Maine, New York, and Connecticut,

(25:30):
you are either homeschooling your kids or you are complying
the state of California requirements to put these products in
your kids. And as we evolve over the last oh
say many centuries and millennia, and then specifically over the
last few years, we are just enjoying the opportunity to

(25:55):
revisit subjects like this. Again, this is a sort of
a broader who has control over my children and my
family and my household and our ability to decide for
ourselves how we want to how we want to live
our lives. Basic Bill of rights stuff. Again, my experience

(26:17):
has been in these last crazy, heady, nutty twilight zone
years do we can I even recite the darn Bill
of Rights?

Speaker 3 (26:27):
What where?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Where does the law actually specify that I have to
X Y Z or I cannot ABC. Really, you're you're
telling me you're an authority over me, which was a
rather odd concept to consider, And you're telling.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Me I have to whatever whatever?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
What about my autonomy and my God given freedoms? And
it's spelled out right here in what we thought were hard,
hard and fact us documents, the Bill of Rights and
Constitution where I get to decide for myself. Our entire
ethos and set of values in this country is built

(27:11):
on and individualism.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
And my there's no authority over me other.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Than God and I am, I am the government, and
they're you know there there are no kings and rulers
here at here in America. So, with all this being said,
the current day genre of medical decisions the slippery slope,

(27:43):
the let it slide.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Ethos.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
It's not ethos, but what the rope that we have given.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Let's just say, certain.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Municipalities or states, or certain people that have rested some
sort of authority and control legally or otherwise over ourselves
or our bodies, or our families or kids or whatever
the rope that's been given.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
We are now.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Actually just pleased as punch to get to reconsider how
did that happen?

Speaker 3 (28:19):
And what do we do about it? And is that right?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
And there's this is why everyone gets so upset about
this issue, the.

Speaker 3 (28:28):
Big dog elephant in the room. One of them is that.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
What can you be forced to put in inject into
your body?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Force feds?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
But so to speak, a particular product that does not
need to prove itself to be excuse me, safe and effective,
unlike Mama Verr's radio, You just, without question are compelled
to comply. And how did we even get here? So

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there are more and more people, more and more parents,
and proven by more and more data, that are wondering
how did we get here? And what do we even
do about this? And is this right? And is this
okay for my family? And am I going to allow
my children to be subjected to the decisions that may

(29:23):
not be altruistically based?

Speaker 3 (29:26):
There are dollar.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Signs in someone's eyes, and therefore I am compelled to
submit myself to something that I don't agree to. Very
long winded way of saying the question of compelling families
and children to take excuse me, so called vaccines with

(29:50):
quotes around them. Take this medical product and put it
in your kid's body in order to receive a public education.
I think there's a lot of congaroo and season there right,
the public of education for all. Oh, but only if
you comply. That does not compute anymore more and more so,

(30:14):
to get to the point as I started out saying,
the American Academy Pediatrics apparently has licked their finger and
stuck it up into the wind, and they know which
way the wind bloweth, and they're not happy about it.
Because the data shows that vaccination rates hit a record
breaking low for the third year in a row, as

(30:36):
religious exemptions reach record high. So this is national numbers,
and I don't have a lot of time to really
break this down into detail. But in a statement Thursday,
because this is becoming a national conversation, thank you Jesus. Finally,
in a statement released Thursday on vaccination rates, the CDC

(30:57):
said the decision to vaccinate.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Is a personal one.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Parents should consult their healthcare providers on options for their families.
Thank you CDC for acknowledging that the twenty twenty four
twenty twenty five school year was the third record ranking
year in a row for the exemption rate, according to
the Associated Press. So more and more people are declining

(31:25):
to fully vaccinate their kids. Obviously, like I just said,
California is a state where it's their way or the highway. Again,
they giveth and taketh away for your public education. You
have to homeschool if you're not going to comply and
your kids are denied access to all sorts of things.
I have friends, that's the case, many of them, and

(31:46):
that's fine.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Homeschooling is perfectly great. I loved it.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
We had a great time homeschooling. But when it becomes
out of force at the end of a sword versus well,
that's the choice I've made for my family.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
That is not right.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So four states do not allow religious or philosophical exemptions.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
The rest of the states do.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
To serve some degree, and more and more people are
opting out, and the numbers are going up. The AAP, though,
smells they smell a reduction in profits because they if
you you can look this up, anyone can look up

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the numbers on this. They are direct beneficiaries of the
companies that sell these products to the doctors and the
medical clinics or whatever. The AAP is funded. I want
to say it's eighty percent. I'm going to get that number.
It's in this article here. They are direct recipients of
those dollar signs. So I just think that the people

(32:58):
here in this country are in a very wonderful way reconsidering.
Everybody should be reconsidering everything we once held as dear.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
I didn't think about this at all. I thought about
it a little bit.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
As I've mentioned before, my kids got some of the
schedule on my schedule, not theirs, but you know, they
did get some of the shots. I thought it was
too much, and that was even back then. So I'm
glad that people are reconsidering this. Okay, So here's public
support for religious and medical exemptions.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
A poll of over and this is out of a
Children's Health defense. A poll of over one thousand registered
voters conducted in June by John Zogby Strategy showed that
sixty percent of parents with young children supported reviewing the
current childhood vaccine schedule. Findings published last month and Jamma
Network Open showed sixty percent of pregnant women and young

(33:57):
mothers are considering delaying or refuse routine.

Speaker 3 (34:00):
Vaccinations for their children.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
A study funded by the National Institutes of Health and
published in the journal Vaccine in February found that seventy
four percent of elementary school personnel surveyed in California did
not believe their schools had the authority to deny medical exemptions,
and that a majority opposed COVID nineteen mandates. A survey
conducted by the Annenberg Public Policy Center in January showed

(34:25):
public support for religious exemptions has nearly doubled in the
last six years, and July twenty twenty four Gallup poll
found that support for mandagatory school vaccination has declined in
recent years. Okay, so, in faced with these facts that
independent Americans are thinking for themselves what's best for.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Them and their families.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Again, you get to take the facts in hand, You
get to decide for yourself. That is all I ask
That I mean again is that this is one of
these kind of no brainers.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
This is the nation we've inherited.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
The beauty of the American system is we are not
forced at gunpoint for anything, or should not be. If
you want to participate in whatever sort of medical product
or procedure, go right darn ahead.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
I won't say anything.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
But when the industries that make the products and they
take the money and they put it in other pockets, and
then the people who are the beneficiaries of said money.

Speaker 3 (35:41):
Have their way.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
In the state and national legislatures or government of any
sort and compel you to do something that goes against
the Bill of rights, and you're you know, your auton
to me, it's a person and a parent.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
That's where it's getting out of it. It is a
out of control.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
And b it is more and more recognizable as fraudulent,
fraudulent aims on the part of someone. So I think
this whole thing that came out with the AAP, they
want to shut down religious vaccine exemptions, listen to this
and in updated policy statement published in Pediatrics, the AAP

(36:29):
said universal universal immunization is necessary to keep children and
employees safe. The organization said there's a place for quote
legitimate medical medical exemptions, but non medical exemptions are quote problematic.

Speaker 3 (36:43):
Quote.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
We recommend that vaccination is required for participation in public
activities such as school and daycare, and if you choose
not to vaccinate, you're essentially choosing to exclude yourself from
these settings. Lead author doctor Jesse Hackele told MedPage Today.
Excuse me, doctor Hackle, He added, we recognize that excluding

(37:05):
a child from public education does have problems, and yet
we reached the conclusion that on balances sharing, the safety
of the school and daycare environment outweighs at risk because
there are other educational opportunities available. Okay, I seem to
believe that the nation just went through a very important

(37:30):
Supreme Court decision about parental rights and religious beliefs in
a household in Ma Mood versus Taylor. Right, this came out,
This decision came out.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
This is a couple months ago.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
At this point time implies I couldn't tell you exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
What it was a couple months ago.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
That clearly clearly found families and your personal book, your
personal held beliefs, religious beliefs, whatever, have no business being
trod upon by local organizations of whatever, municipalities, school districts,

(38:13):
any sort of government. The Supreme Court strongly upheld that
religious choice trumps excuse me if I may all else.
And so we'll see where this national this attempt to
just shut down religious exemptions nationally for childhood vaccines. We'll

(38:37):
see how far they get with that. But anyways, it's
a finger on the pulse of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
I love it. I love it.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Love it when people are thinking for themselves and asking
questions and having the conversations and not just wilfully and
blindly just marching along in step. Now you can ask
your questions and think carefully for yourself about any of
these issues and decide whatever you like. And if I
don't agree with it, that's fantastic. You treat yourself, you go.

(39:08):
But again, that's on a foundation of individual sovereignty, and.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
I have said my peace on that.

Speaker 4 (39:21):
Love.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I love it that we are getting the opportunity to
revisit all of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, I'm a little late for my break.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
When I come back, I'm gonna spin the wheel, the
Mama Bear's Wheel of Fortune. We'll see where we land.
For my last little segment. Everybody, stay tuned. This is
Mama Bear's Radio, Safe and Effective Radio.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
Kristin Hurley here, I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Mama Bear's Radio.

Speaker 5 (39:47):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Heuck all right, everybody, welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio.
My last precious few minutes of the day today. Stay

(40:29):
tuned for School's Out, Drivetime Show and then we're back
tonight at six pm Surfsgate City with Henry Michelle. He
always has some really cool hip guest on, way cooler
than me or anyone that I know. But I do
want to talk for my last couple of minutes in
the spirit of smart people thinking great thoughts and really

(40:53):
trying to come together even from opposite ends of the
political spectrum. This was a really interesting article about the
new NIH director J. Bodacharia and the author Here, he writes,
my friendship with the NIH director J. Bodicharia began when
he was a professor of medicine economics and health research

(41:13):
policy at Stanford University, and I was a staff writer
at Salon, he says, to understand how this friendship works
between a democratic socialist and a key figure in President
Donald Trump's second administration. Okay, I'm gonna pause myself. I've

(41:34):
had inner loopers come in the talk studio. Oh, thank you. Okay, good,
They're gonna go set up for the next hour. You
never know when the gremlins are going to come out
of the walls around here. The point is is the
author calls him as he's a self described Democratic socialist
and obviously Badachoria is working in the Trump administration in

(41:59):
nih and he says, to understand how we can maintain
a friendship and over the years, despite many differences in policy,
he says, look to the Badacharia's favorite film, Twelve Angry Men,
the nineteen fifty seven courtroom drama based on nineteen fifty

(42:21):
four teleplay celebrates reason to scent, open debate, and the
power of a single voice challenging consensus principles Badacharia values deeply,
especially in science. It's the respect for such principles that
has been the foundation of many friendships I, meaning the author,
have had with individuals whom I disagree with politically, and

(42:43):
he goes on to say, I strongly oppose almost every
major aspect of Trump's agenda, but I refuse to abandon
my relationships with those who disagree with me in good faith.
In part, this is a sentimental choice, as I value
my friendship with Bodacharia, but it's also a rational one.
Recognize that I am fallible. Therefore, like all human beings,
I need to listen to intelligent people who will tell

(43:06):
me when they think I'm wrong. I have to pause
here and say, I find this confession of sorts from
the salon writer so refreshing. Can I repeat this? He says,
I recognize that I'm fallible like all human beings. I
need to listen to intelligent people who will tell me

(43:27):
when they think I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I was just talking about this.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
The more of a national conversation we can have about
these hot button issues that.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Everybody fired up.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
But as we reevaluate our culture in our society, and
our generations, and our government and ourselves and what does
it mean to be an American, you have to absolutely
pull back and be able to take a full perspective
and not be right all the time, and decide that
the greater good is us coming to a solution that

(44:02):
considers all points of view and considers all the facts
and doesn't just delve into as as Badacharia gets into
in this next section. Here, group think, So I'm gonna
pause here in the author. This is a transcript of
an interview with Bodacharia.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
And so this author.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
Asks an IH director about Acharia, says, you've referred to
what you call me too research, saying there's a climate
where everyone has to echo everyone else less their career suffer.
Am I correct and sensing that you want things? You
want to change the culture from one where everyone feels
like they need to toe the line, and Bodacharia answers
the says absolutely. I think group think is a real

(44:45):
danger in science. If you just echo what everyone else believes,
it may advance your scientific career. But that points to
a problem in the culture of science. We ought to
value truth.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
If we have a culture of truth, then we're not
trying to destroy a scigence to simply be simply for
the fact that they don't agree with the consensus. We
shouldn't be destroying a scientist simply for being wrong. What
we want is a cultural people can discuss and disagree
about ideas without trying to destroy the person for having
those ideas. There should not be an orthodoxy and science

(45:16):
that determines They're sorry.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
There should.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Doude not be an orthodoxy and science that determines truth.
Got caught up there, all right, I'm gonna have to
end it here because I'm out of time. I will
be back, ugh, not next week, but the week after next.
Stay tuned, everybody to AM thirteen forty ko m Y
for schools out Drive time. It's me and Noma and

(45:43):
Scott and that means trouble, so you're be forewarned. And
this has been Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here and
I will be back in two weeks. Everybody, keep your
claws out, all right, see you let messia in two weeks.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Blazers in the jungle, Lasers in the jungle somewhere, just
the compos signals, common information, a loose affiliation of millionaires
and billionaires and babies these other days and there I
cann't wonder. This is a long's fall.

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