August 25, 2025 • 46 mins
They're all at it, again, still. This hour I revisit California's AB 495 - free for all children! And other modern societal and governmental ills....
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The California Mama Bears have been.
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Fierce guardians of our future. Mama Bear's fights for parents' rights,
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listening to Mama Bear's Radio with your host The New Normal,
Kristen Hurley.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
All right, our number two of Mama Bear's Radio, coming
at you on lovely Monday afternoon.
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School's in, sorry, kiddos.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
School's in for everyone at all hours and all times.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I just don't know it's school.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, fine, but life is school if you don't just
stick your head in the sand.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
There's all sorts of cool stuff to.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Keep doing in your life, and so I you know,
it's like I guess it's sitting in a classroom. Yay,
so much good stuff out there to do and learn.
I have half a mind to come back and learn something,
you know. I don't think i'd necessarily like re enroll
in college, but there's so many great classes to take.
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I'm always intrigued by even like the Cabrio Extension or
the local you know, UCS, the Extension or whatever, all
sorts of great In fact, my mom is like a
lifelong Learner's organization. I think they do a bunch of
stuff around the county. They hear lectures, various UCSC professors
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or visiting people come in astronomy and you name it,
science and whatever is new and cool. My mom always
has the bug to go and continue just trying to
you know, expand your mind.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So I feel the same way, and so kids take
heart the you know, the mundane in the classroom. Ideally
will just continue with really great stuff that keeps you
excited about. Oh, I don't know, growing exploring, doing cool stuff.
I mentioned I'm weren't working my way through the ken
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Burns documentary is currently stuck in somewhere in the middle
of the Cuvil War. But anyways, I actually far prefer
that to fiction or made up you know whatever, fantasy TV.
I'm always up for, like a good history or some
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sort of documentary informative, something to watch this excuse me,
something to fall asleep to at night. When I finally
crawl in bed, I get my twenty minutes of something.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Anyways, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Kristin Early here Safe and effective Radio. When I when
I'm focused and have something fun to say. I have,
of course, like endless, endless to talk about today. I
don't want to get to ahead of myself. Someone that
I sincerely admirer Billboard Chris. If you're at all around
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the Internet, particularly on x and following the people that
are doing good work to help protect our kids. Of
course that cover that umbrella covers a lot. But Billboard
Chris particularly is his moniker online, and he's the guy
that walks around. He'll go to university campuses or w'll
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goo and stand in the middle of a crowded street
in the in the cities and towns around the world.
In fact, he's in a lot of different countries, and
he hangs a big old billboard around his neck. Children
cannot consent to puberty blockers. He says provocative stuff like that,
excuse me provocative. He says real things like that on
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his billboards, and he encourages conversations and he gets a
lot of flak.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He gets. Of course, all of this is filmed.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
There's endless, endless footage of him encountering people that get
incredibly angry and want to yell and scream at him,
and he just really, really, truthfully does want to engage
in a realistic conversation about this kind of in the
same way Charlie Kirk will go to college campuses and
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let kids yell and scream at him and ask these
like sort of inname questions, and Charlie Kirk goes, okay,
we actually have you're misinformed on this, and here here's
some data, and here's what you know. Here's what's actually
here's where you've been led astray, maybe by other people
who have tried to, you know, lead you elsewhere. Billboard
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Chris is the same kind of a thing. Of course,
the videos are someone entertaining. Sometimes he gets assaulted at
a good many of the times he's asked to leave
right the local municipality police come up, try to force
him to leave, and it turns into like a free
speech issue because people get mad and triggered and they
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want him to go and report him that he is
doing something dangerous, and the cops are like, you know,
in Europe in particular, he has trouble, so long, long,
stupid way of saying here, he has a new organization.
He's someone out there doing incredible work to dispel this
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whole gender media that our kids have been sold down
the river again, speaking as I was last hour of
contagious ideas among young people. The article by Abigail Schreyer
mentioned anorexia's well known to be extremely catching flies through
the air with young girls. We've known about that decades.
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And in the same way this, you know, well, I
have a mental health Oh, I'm diagnosed with something. Here's
my label, kind of a thing where kids are embracing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know I have something too, I have a label
that I wear on my sleeve or excuse me. I
am one of seventy two genders. I stand out because
I am who I am, and I have picked. I've
picked what I want to be that makes me special
in this sort of social contagion way, and that's done
nothing but harm our kids and anyways, So Chris Elston
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aka Billboard Chris, father of two girls, who's been traveling
the world since twenty twenty, having street conversations, generating media,
fighting for free speech, and educating millions of people about
the dangers of gender ideology, specifically the practice of giving
children harmful puberty blocking drugs, cross sex hormones, and surgeries.
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He has formed an organization called We Speak Truth.
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To fight for the right for children to grow up
with their bodies intact, free from the harms of gender ideology.
He says, we believe that children are beautiful just as
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No drugs or scalpels needed.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
One conversation at a time, we're educating millions, protecting kids,
advancing free speech, and defending parental rights. Again, if you
go up and the look you know, if you've never
heard of this guy, go and look him up and
see some of the footage of him having conversations in
the streets literally around the world.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And he does amazing work.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So at any rate, his new organization, We Speak Truth,
it's we Speak Truth dot com. Check it out, help
him out, support his organization. And I don't know, thank
you to Billboard Chris for at least making quite a
sensation of himself and bringing attention to this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It really is a world gone mad mad. But I do.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Apploch his work. So I also, let's see here I
wanted to revisit this hour ABY four ninety five. Thank
you California legislature.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
For this. It is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Making its way through the Senate right now. So this
bill in California ABY four ninety five, if you weren't listening.
A couple of weeks ago, I did go over this
bill in the thousands of bills produced by the California
Legislature over a bill season. It's billing season in California.
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Every year is billing season. Well over two thousand bills
are written and debated and passed on through given a
Reavenusom to sign.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Every year. There's some real doozies. And again again.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Just a little tidbit, just for the sheer fun of it,
because I like to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The California Legislature.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is comprised of one hundred and twenty people for forty
million Californians, give or take thirty nine million, whatever it is,
approximately forty million. Does that feel like representation representation to you?
It does not feel like representation to me. One state
senator represents a million people in his district. They go
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to Sacramento and they surely as heck are not listening
to what the constituents have to say. One hundred and
twenty people, and then plus one more that'scaven Newsom.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So between one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Twenty one of them, they are making incredible, incredibly, How
do I say detrimental decisions about the lives of Californians.
We pay taxes. Here are we the people of California.
And like I said, they pop out some whoppers of
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bills that just go against every grain of normal common
sense and decency and family rights and personal autonomy and
excuse me as I like to say, sovereignty, which is
what we are guaranteed by the California Constitution general US Constitution,
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but specifically the California Constitution echoes a lot of that
those ideals and AB ninety five, sorry, four ninety five
is one of these that's like, what are they thinking?
So again, let me just be brief under sort of
the guys of the scare tactics about immigration enforcement that's
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happening now.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Of course, on a national level.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We have to rectify the fact that we've had so
millions and millions of people come to this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Over the last s X number of years.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And California, of course is self declared you can't come
and touch us sanctuary state. Running into many issues with
the federal government over this, but it under the guise
of protecting people that are here in California.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Illegally.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
This bill professes to pretend like there are people being
let's see, parents ripped away from their kids, being deported.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Raids in schools. There's a whole.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Lot of excuse me, dare I say, misinformation going on
about that. But the bill, the bill's author tries to say, well,
if parents are Ice comes to their house and rips
the parents out of house while the kids at school,
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and there's no one to come and pick up a
child from school because the parents have been shuffled off
back to country of origin, there's an affidavit that anyone
can fill out to lay claim to these abandoned children
at school. Of course, is like the gist of this bill,
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because the poor child doesn't have his parents to pick
them up because they've been deported, and so therefore we
need to relax the rules for who can come and
claim a child at school or at preschool or daycare.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And so there is such a thing as this as
an affidavit.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right when you sign up for your kids at school.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I've done this many times.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You fill out the forms that say what other adults
are allowed to come get your kids. But under this bill,
it would relax the rules. Sweeping changes to the California
Family Code by expanding who can fill out a caregivers
authorization affidavit. This is a legal form that gives adults
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authority to make decisions about where children attend school and
what health care services they receive. Previously, this form limited
significant health care decisions to certain relatives. ABE four to
ninety five expands that definition to include vague categories like
non relative extended family member slash any adult who claims
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to have a mentoring or familial relationship with the child
or the child's relatives. So anyone can fill this out
this affidavit. There is no ID requirement, no verification of
identification requirement.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The affidavit.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The updated affidavit explicitly states three times that a parent's
signature or a court seal is not required. It removes
any doubt that a caregiver can act without the knowledge
or consent of the child's parents. So this is an
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author by assembly Woman Rodriguez.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
She's out of the La area.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Celest Rodriguez from San Fernando, just decide. Wanted to decide
for every one of us that anyone can come and
sign this affidavit and pick up your child from school
without your knowledge or consent. And there's a lot of
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details going on here, but in short, there's an incredible
amount of pushback from all over the state about this bill. So,
like I said, it is in fact today there was
a hearing in the Senate Appropriations Committe. It has already
moved through several other Senate committees that's required.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I haven't heard yet whether it passed through.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
If it does pass through today's committee, it will go
to the Senate floor for a full vote, and after
that it will go to Gavin Newsom's desk. So there's
still a very small window which time for you to
get your opinion out there about this, calling your senator
that sort of saying slash whoever else. This bill is
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ludicrously titled excuse me, the Family Preparedness Plan Act of
twenty twenty five, and this is out of the California
Globe Come claims the bill is quote a critical tool
that will preserve California's families. We must do everything we
can to safeguard families from separation and ensure children are supported.
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This is what assembly Woman Rodriguez says, right, she's assuming, oh,
the parents gonna be ripped out of their house and
deported and let their child left at school and someone
has to go and claim the child.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, this leaves.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Things wide open for people who wish to do harm
to young kids to go and claim themselves as a child.
And this is not hyperbally, this is a basically there's
free children up for grabs at your local preschool. So
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it's a rather sickening new angle to I don't know
life in California. Okay, here we go. I'm going to
take a break.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Everybody. This is Mama Bear's Radio, Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
When I come back, I want to talk just a
little bit more about four ninety five and then we
will move on, I promise. But it's still out there,
and so I wanted to give everybody an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
If you haven't heard about.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
This, it behooves you to get educated and let your
opinions be known. All right, we will be back after
this break in.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just a minute, Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back
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times home.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You're afraid today the fate, so you find yourself somebody you.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Can do the job free. Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio.
Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
The new normal very exciting as the new normal. The
new normal is really dragging on, I have to say,
but at any rate piling on the years. Aaron Friday
getting back to AB four ninety five. As I said
last segment, it is still in the Senate. It is
headed for the Senate floor vote very soon.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Just be aware of this. Aaron Friday.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
She's an attorney president of Our Duty USA. She's a
parent led advocacy group. She calls AB four ninety five
child traffickers and kidnappers dream bill. Now, I know this
sounds like hocus pocus and scare tactics, but I, like
I can't get over the fact that the state legislature
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is erasing any sort of controls over who can come
and pick up your kids.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
There's no background check, no welfare check, no court oversight,
and no verification. All you need is a piece of
paper that says this is from Aaron Friday. She's referring
to this affidavit and so in a form of identification
with no obligation for the adult handing the child over
to verify the identification impresstof someone walks away with your child.
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Friday also rejects the bill's author Rodriguez's claim that this
bill is narrowly tailored to immigration emergencies. The bill's language
applies to any child for any reason, regardless of immigration status,
and grants temporary legal rights to individuals with no blood relation,
including people who may not even be known to the
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child's parents. The stranger can consent to medical treatments for
the child, and the bill absolves the doctors from any
liability should the adult consenting not have any actual legal
connection to the child. Aaron Friday says, we're talking about
a legal pathway for predators to operate in planes and
plain sight. This bill is not about immigration. It's about
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relinquishing parental rights to unvetted strangers under the guise of compassion.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, I'm gonna leave it there. You can look
this up.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
In fact, there's plenty of people that are at issue
with this bill and making noise. In fact, I believe
there's a big rally in Sacramento about it tomorrow. It
just is, you know, unbelievable to me that the state
of California would be like, yeah, anyone in the brother
can lay claim to a child, fill out an affidavit,
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present it to its school, or daycare with a quote ID,
but no one is required to verify that ID. There's
no court, there's no family court jurisdiction over this. There's nothing,
and they can come and claim your child and off
they go.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, yikes.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I sometimes have to let like, what the heck kind
of twilight zone is? Is? Why do I sit on
the radio in a room, as my daughter pointed out
the other just talking to yourself. Mom. It sounds this
sounds crazy, it sounds I don't know, it's just it's
unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I suppose that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I sit here and talk at all this crazy stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Someone's got to say it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's like if you have, as I say, rip the
veil off and you just start paying attention to the
world around you on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't view this as politics. I view this as
I'm an American citizen. This is my country, this is
my government I pay for, and the government is so
specifically limited in the founding concept and the founding documents of.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Our nation.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Bill of Rights, it is absolutely limited ability to touch
me as a sovereign American person, as a free person
of this country, and every day every day there's like
other people around like I have a great idea what's
best for you? And I'm going to implement my great
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idea and you can't do a thing about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh yeah, yeah. So I just think that the you
know that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
This is not partisan, divisive politics here that I'm talking about.
This is something that is relevant to absolutely everyone out there.
And again, you don't even have to have kids or
have to be a grandparent or whatever to be concerned,
uh for stay overreach like this. And it's not it's
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not what the founding fathers of this country set out
to do.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's not what God has.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Presented to us as God's children that we you know,
we answer to God.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
We do not answer or to the state. Firmly believe that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And somewhere along the line, someone's gotten that awfully backwards.
And I'm not just gonna sit and passively let it
go at any rate.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
There's my little tirade when we come.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Back speaking of the state, excuse me another state v.
Humanity story to bring up to you, so well, in
this time it's New York State. All right, everybody, Mama
Bear's radio.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I gotta take my other break. I'll be back in
just a minute Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
We'll be right back, all right, Welcome back to Mama
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Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, I'm I'm messing up. I
really wanted to get to this, so I bury my
I bury my articles in a big pile here of
stuff that I wanted to talk to about. There there
was something I'm desperate to get to. So I'm going
to renag just a little bit on my promised States
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versus humanity subject. I'm going to talk real quick about this,
and I want to get to the next parenting trend, sorry,
the next one of the next big questions in what
are we doing here on this planet? Okay, but at
any rate, So I'm, as you all know, very big
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into medical freedom. As a sovereign, autonomous person, as I
like to say, I want to decide for myself what
goes in the bod.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And I don't don't think that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Any agency, government, certainly anyone else on the planet should
get to decide for me or anyone else what you do.
And mandatory xyzs, compulsory requirements of you must do this
or you can't do that, kind of carot and a
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stic tactics of the government absolutely, in my humble opinion,
goes beyond the Bill of Rights and right into the
trash heap. While we work on all of these major
issues of medical freedom, there's a really interesting case that
was just decided rerually in favor of a particular plaintiff
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in New York, a student who was being denied her
medical vaccine exemption by the state.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
She was barred from attending school.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The court has said there's an injunction on the state
and she will be allowed to return to her classes
in September. So the Ocean Side Union Free School District
had refused to allow Sarah Do to attend classes unless
she took a third dose of the hepatitis B vaccine. Now,
New York is one of the states, like California, that
has removed any sort of exemptions whatsoever. You will comply,
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or you do not receive your education from the state,
or you do it only at their good pleasure in homeschooling,
or whatever other scenarios. You are a Class B citizen
if you don't comply. In other words, and what happened
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was Sarah and her family had a religious exemption for
the vaccine schedule as a young person. And in twenty nineteen,
I'm paraphrasing, this is a case. This was reported out
of the Defender News, out of Children's Health Defense, who
also were in part sponsors of this lawsuit. But in
twenty nineteen, Sarah was forced to get a whole host
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of the vaccines to catch up with the schedule because
the state denied her religious exemption and she ended up
taking a number of the shots in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Sort of quick succession.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
She had incredible reactions, physical reactions to the shots. She
was very vaccine injured for a number of years, still
going on to this day. She's been told by it's
six different treating physicians that she could be harmed or
killed from taking this last shot. So the school is saying,
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the district is saying, you cannot attend school because you
haven't completed this third dose of the het be vaccine. Well,
she apparently, I'm gonna find this in the article. Nearly
passed away twice. She's got kidney issues, all sorts of
medical medical issues now because of the vaccines that she
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did take in quick succession.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
In order to comply with their whatever to go to school.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And she has said and said to the district she
has medical exemptions from these physician physicians who say you
cannot take this third vaccine, and so the district said, well, sorry,
you can't come to school. So in just in brief,
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this is a major win. I expect that this was
in a New York federal jurisdiction. The judge ruled in
favor of Sarah Doo, and I expect this to reverberate
like the Supreme Court case Taylor versus Mamood, reverberate through
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other states who refuse religious or medical exemptions for vaccines
for parents and students. This will inform future cases. So
this is actually really fantastic news. The article says, when
she tried to get vaccinated on her own, against medical advice,
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right to go get this third dose so that she
could attend school this fall, the walking clinic at a
pharmacy refused to vaccinate her because of her compromised health.
Yet the school district knows better and they still refuse.
They denied her exemption request multiple times. They argued that
her symptoms were not listed as examples on the CDC's guidelines,
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and therefore they disbelieved her medical exemption, even though it
came straight from the doctor.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So this is a big win.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Whether or not the district appeals, I don't know, but
it is a big win for medical freedom and autonomy
of choice, public.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Education, you know, stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I have friends whose children do not attend school, public school.
They're forced to do their own thing because they are
second class citizens for their various reasons, which, as I've
stated before, I do not think should even have to
be categorized as religious beliefs. It's none of your dang
business why I do or do not want a particular
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substance put in my body or my kids' bodies.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I have the ability to get it if.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I reject it, if I want.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So we'll see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That just was encouraging, okay, and now to the existential.
I came across this article in the New York Times.
It's actually a transcript of an interview. It's titled the
next parenting Trend starts before conception. For as little as
twenty five hundre dollars, you can choose your future baby
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and should you. And I went, oh my gosh, here
we go, which, of course, this is the stuff of
sci fi movies and the tinfoil hat types but it
is here genetic testing of babies, designer babies, so to speak.
There's a new company, Orchid Company, that promises parents the
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ability to protect their children, their future children through genetic
testing for embryos before pregnancy. Now, excuse me, I take
issue with that. We'll get into this a little bit.
The founder nor Sidiqui. That's how I'm going to pronounce
her last name, and Ross Ross dou Hat. I think
of the New York Times debate the scientific, moral, and
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ethical implications of designing a healthy child and what we
lose in separating reproduction from sex. I'm going to try
and get through some of this. This is food for
thought for all of us. We're not strangers to the
fact that, over the last decade or two or even
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further quote unquote genetic testing. You know, you've got the
ability to, at least on more rudimentary levels, look inside
at the baby in the belly. And we've had long
since questions about, well, if you find something you don't like.
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I think the early testing, of course, looked at some
very basic things like down syndrome or a few basic
major sort of defects or health issues with the baby.
And what this new company orchid is is a far
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deeper look at the exact or excuse me, quote unquote
what they deem to be your exact one hundred percent
DNA line of your baby, where they claim to be
able to very accurately predict what your genes.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I know this is all like, this.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Is the tongue in cheek exactly what diseases your baby,
your future child may or may not have childhood cancers,
heart disease, diabetes, mental health issues. This article, which is really,
like I said, sort of a transcript of their interview,
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makes some shocking crazy claims about what this company or
kid can do. However, they are open for business and
apparently are doing business.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I really want to I want to.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Quote a little bit of this just as a food
for thought. The sci fi movie is here, It's at
our doorstep.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Are people.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Really doing this where they're gonna pick and choose now?
And I have to take a break in just two seconds,
So let me set the stage just a little bit. IVF.
IVF is a common practice already, lots of ways to
debate whether it, you know, the moral.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Sort of gray areas of this.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Harvest your eggs fertilize with sperm, take a look under
the microscope, pick out what looks like the viable ones,
either freeze them or implant them in a uterus, sometimes
many at a time, just to get a bunch of
viable ones. Going see what works, See what takes IVF.
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If you drive down the freeway, drive down Highway eighty
or wherever there's billboards advertising, oh this hospital IVF, and
I you know, and there are of course plenty of
people who've tried to conceive for ages and ages and
ages and utilize this technology is a viable way to
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get to a viable pregnancy and have a child.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
IVF is also, of course used more to farious.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Ways stuff that doesn't sit well with me, surrogacy in particular,
you know, people who purchase children.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Excuse me. I'm not going to get into that right now.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But what I do want to mention, and I'll take
my break and then come back and talk a little
bit about this for the rest of my show.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So many major ethical.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Problems with this technology and with the excuse me, the
hubris and the audacity of people who are essentially playing
golf and making babies, and excuse me, harvesting cells from
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embryos and then proclaiming that through the algorithms and all
their predictive technology and all the data that they know,
that they can say definitively what the future holds for
your kid. And then you go and choose whether or
not you want that already growing embryo, if you want
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it or not based on what someone else is predicting
is going to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Be their future.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's such a crazy, play good thing, and we have
to face facts. This is out there. It's not something
that's particularly in my purview regularly, but I came across
this piece and it really was tons of food for thought.
So let me stop my babble play my commercials.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We'll cover just a little bit this of the subject.
Kristin Hurley're Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, wrapping
up second hour here of a beautiful Monday afternoon on
the Monterey Bay. All right, guys, real quick here, I'm
talking this new company, Orchid article from the New York Times.
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The next parenting trend starts before conception. Okay, so Orchid
first company in the world they claim that allows parents
to actually sequence the entire genome of an embryo, sequencing
ninety nine percent of the bases in an embryo's genome,
which allows parents to detect risks for some of the
most serious conditions heart efects, birth effects, pediatric cancers, developmental disorders.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They claim that.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Things that massively change the trajectory of child's life, and
the vast majority.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Of these diseases don't have cures.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
This is the interview with nor Sidiqui, who is from
this company, Orchid, and she goes on to say, so,
here's right, there's ivf right. Everyone's pretty familiar with that process.
You take eggs from the female, excuse me, the female
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that makes eggs, and fertilize the eggs, and then you
decide whether what you're gonna do with them. Do you
free them, do you implant them more whatever. So she says,
once you fertilize eggs with a partner sperm, those embryos
grow for five days.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
This is what Orchid does.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
On day five, they typically have about one hundred and
twenty five cells. If you choose to use Orchid, five
of those cells get sent to Orchid's lab, so they
go in. Excuse me, she says. The procedure through Orchid,
you take sample cells from the embryos. You can think
of it as a haircut, she says, So you take
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your baby embryo and out of one hundred and twenty
five cells, you slice off five of them. And so
then Orchid sequences the entire genome and it's called genome,
a whole old genome sequencing. And they go into a
bit of technical details. So they're the first company to
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commercially clinically use this technology and in general, I think,
you know, this is something that you can use blood
or saliva to do. They're able to do it with
just the five cells from the embryo, and they do
this process for anyone. So she claims that the company,
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you don't have to be an older couple that are
worried about infertility or maybe genetic genetic issues or whatever
for your children. She says, they have couples of all
walks of life that have utilized their services. And so
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the interviewer says, well, how many conditions are you doing
scores for? So they have a number of scores that
come back, a bunch of reports that comes back, excuse me,
in three to four weeks, with a number of reports
on your embryos. So if I may pause right there,
this process, okay, fine, five days a fertilized egg, sell
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it's an embryo, and they slice a little haircut off
of it three to four weeks later. That's an incredibly
more advanced creature you're talking about. There's a little baby.
It's not a Clympus cells. This is my position here,
and so at this point in your excuse me, and
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it's not a pregnancy yet, So this is still the
embryos are existing outside of your body. This is what
they're saying, and so you, as a parent, are waiting
to see what comes back in the reports for these embryos. However,
many of them that you have that are fertilized, and
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so the report goes on to say they are looking
for over twelve hundred monogenic disorders, things like birth defects,
heart effects, skeletal defects, pediatric cancers, adult onset cancers, neurodevelopmental disorders. Whereover,
she claims, you know, the last twenty years, geneticists have
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cataloged here's this specific gene, this specific variant, and it
leads to this disorder. And so again about one hundred
twelve hundred conditions these reports will provide do you do
you're a little fertilized embryo or a little bit baby
in a lab somewhere wherever it is three to four
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weeks later, does it have any of the signs of
these future potential diseases or conditions? And the next level
is polygenic conditions, and these are conditions influenced by multiple genes.
So the interviewer goes on to say, you know what
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about these.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And so this is basically.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Where they say they use a bunch of algorithms to
predict well, with this particular combination of genes, how likely
is it that your future, this future person develops this
sort of disease or condition, And there's all sorts of stuff.
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Now listen, this is where I completely well, oh, this
is where I went bonkers in this article, she says,
this is sidiqui. We've talked about monogenetic disease, monogenic disease,
and for a lot of diseases you may be familiar with,
things like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, heart disease, and diabetes, they're
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not driven by one genetic typo. They're driven by the
cumulative impact of many millions of variants collectively driving risk.
Now that has never ever, ever been proven any one
of those four things that she just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You can't prove that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
They do not have a clear genetic test for O, say, schizophrenia.
This is a complete miss excuse me, misinformation, malinformation, disinformation.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
That doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
And so what's funny is so she's claiming, Okay, fine,
our predictive, our DNA predictive algorithms in our system are
going to decide, well, you have a particular combination of
genes that could lead to these sort of disorders.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
But so you're going to get all these reports about
your future child that not only have okay, well a
distinct genetic variant for twelve hundred diseases, but then the
potential because you've got a combination of genes or variants
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or whatever that we think may lead to X, y Z,
here's your risk score for all of these susceptibility to
these potential problems that your kid might have. So my mind,
of course at this point, and I'm gonna have to
wrap this up in this interview, is completely blown.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So you're going to get back as.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
A you know, hopeful parent or a young couple or
a who knows what you are looking to get a baby,
and you're going to get this report that has the
humorous and the audacity to say definitively, here's what this
future person.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Is going to have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
But she says that the customer base is already in
the many thousands. She wasn't specific, and they are working
full scale to make this available to everyone and grow
the prevalence in the commonality that you know and the
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commonality of oh, of course, we want to be a
good parent, and we're going to screen for diseases before
we even consider allowing this embryo to implant and grow
to fruition.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's just nuts.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I may revisit this next week if you guys are
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School's in, sorry, kiddos.
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School's in for everyone at all hours and all times.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I just don't know it's school.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Okay, fine, but life is school if you don't just
stick your head in the sand.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
There's all sorts of cool stuff to.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Keep doing in your life, and so I you know,
it's like I guess it's sitting in a classroom. Yay,
so much good stuff out there to do and learn.
I have half a mind to come back and learn something,
you know. I don't think i'd necessarily like re enroll
in college, but there's so many great classes to take.
(01:24):
I'm always intrigued by even like the Cabrio Extension or
the local you know, UCS, the Extension or whatever, all
sorts of great In fact, my mom is like a
lifelong Learner's organization. I think they do a bunch of
stuff around the county. They hear lectures, various UCSC professors
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or visiting people come in astronomy and you name it,
science and whatever is new and cool. My mom always
has the bug to go and continue just trying to
you know, expand your mind.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
It's never too late.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
So I feel the same way, and so kids take
heart the you know, the mundane in the classroom. Ideally
will just continue with really great stuff that keeps you
excited about. Oh, I don't know, growing exploring, doing cool stuff.
I mentioned I'm weren't working my way through the ken
(02:25):
Burns documentary is currently stuck in somewhere in the middle
of the Cuvil War. But anyways, I actually far prefer
that to fiction or made up you know whatever, fantasy TV.
I'm always up for, like a good history or some
(02:45):
sort of documentary informative, something to watch this excuse me,
something to fall asleep to at night. When I finally
crawl in bed, I get my twenty minutes of something.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Anyways, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Kristin Early here Safe and effective Radio. When I when
I'm focused and have something fun to say. I have,
of course, like endless, endless to talk about today. I
don't want to get to ahead of myself. Someone that
I sincerely admirer Billboard Chris. If you're at all around
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the Internet, particularly on x and following the people that
are doing good work to help protect our kids. Of
course that cover that umbrella covers a lot. But Billboard
Chris particularly is his moniker online, and he's the guy
that walks around. He'll go to university campuses or w'll
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goo and stand in the middle of a crowded street
in the in the cities and towns around the world.
In fact, he's in a lot of different countries, and
he hangs a big old billboard around his neck. Children
cannot consent to puberty blockers. He says provocative stuff like that,
excuse me provocative. He says real things like that on
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his billboards, and he encourages conversations and he gets a
lot of flak.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
He gets. Of course, all of this is filmed.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
There's endless, endless footage of him encountering people that get
incredibly angry and want to yell and scream at him,
and he just really, really, truthfully does want to engage
in a realistic conversation about this kind of in the
same way Charlie Kirk will go to college campuses and
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let kids yell and scream at him and ask these
like sort of inname questions, and Charlie Kirk goes, okay,
we actually have you're misinformed on this, and here here's
some data, and here's what you know. Here's what's actually
here's where you've been led astray, maybe by other people
who have tried to, you know, lead you elsewhere. Billboard
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Chris is the same kind of a thing. Of course,
the videos are someone entertaining. Sometimes he gets assaulted at
a good many of the times he's asked to leave
right the local municipality police come up, try to force
him to leave, and it turns into like a free
speech issue because people get mad and triggered and they
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want him to go and report him that he is
doing something dangerous, and the cops are like, you know,
in Europe in particular, he has trouble, so long, long,
stupid way of saying here, he has a new organization.
He's someone out there doing incredible work to dispel this
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whole gender media that our kids have been sold down
the river again, speaking as I was last hour of
contagious ideas among young people. The article by Abigail Schreyer
mentioned anorexia's well known to be extremely catching flies through
the air with young girls. We've known about that decades.
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And in the same way this, you know, well, I
have a mental health Oh, I'm diagnosed with something. Here's
my label, kind of a thing where kids are embracing.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well that I have.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
You know I have something too, I have a label
that I wear on my sleeve or excuse me. I
am one of seventy two genders. I stand out because
I am who I am, and I have picked. I've
picked what I want to be that makes me special
in this sort of social contagion way, and that's done
nothing but harm our kids and anyways, So Chris Elston
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aka Billboard Chris, father of two girls, who's been traveling
the world since twenty twenty, having street conversations, generating media,
fighting for free speech, and educating millions of people about
the dangers of gender ideology, specifically the practice of giving
children harmful puberty blocking drugs, cross sex hormones, and surgeries.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
He has formed an organization called We Speak Truth.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
To fight for the right for children to grow up
with their bodies intact, free from the harms of gender ideology.
He says, we believe that children are beautiful just as
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No drugs or scalpels needed.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
One conversation at a time, we're educating millions, protecting kids,
advancing free speech, and defending parental rights. Again, if you
go up and the look you know, if you've never
heard of this guy, go and look him up and
see some of the footage of him having conversations in
the streets literally around the world.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
And he does amazing work.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
So at any rate, his new organization, We Speak Truth,
it's we Speak Truth dot com. Check it out, help
him out, support his organization. And I don't know, thank
you to Billboard Chris for at least making quite a
sensation of himself and bringing attention to this.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
It really is a world gone mad mad. But I do.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Apploch his work. So I also, let's see here I
wanted to revisit this hour ABY four ninety five. Thank
you California legislature.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
For this. It is.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Making its way through the Senate right now. So this
bill in California ABY four ninety five, if you weren't listening.
A couple of weeks ago, I did go over this
bill in the thousands of bills produced by the California
Legislature over a bill season. It's billing season in California.
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Every year is billing season. Well over two thousand bills
are written and debated and passed on through given a
Reavenusom to sign.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Every year. There's some real doozies. And again again.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Just a little tidbit, just for the sheer fun of it,
because I like to bring this up.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
The California Legislature.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Is comprised of one hundred and twenty people for forty
million Californians, give or take thirty nine million, whatever it is,
approximately forty million. Does that feel like representation representation to you?
It does not feel like representation to me. One state
senator represents a million people in his district. They go
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to Sacramento and they surely as heck are not listening
to what the constituents have to say. One hundred and
twenty people, and then plus one more that'scaven Newsom.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
So between one hundred and.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Twenty one of them, they are making incredible, incredibly, How
do I say detrimental decisions about the lives of Californians.
We pay taxes. Here are we the people of California.
And like I said, they pop out some whoppers of
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bills that just go against every grain of normal common
sense and decency and family rights and personal autonomy and
excuse me as I like to say, sovereignty, which is
what we are guaranteed by the California Constitution general US Constitution,
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but specifically the California Constitution echoes a lot of that
those ideals and AB ninety five, sorry, four ninety five
is one of these that's like, what are they thinking?
So again, let me just be brief under sort of
the guys of the scare tactics about immigration enforcement that's
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happening now.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Of course, on a national level.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
We have to rectify the fact that we've had so
millions and millions of people come to this country illegally.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
Over the last s X number of years.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
And California, of course is self declared you can't come
and touch us sanctuary state. Running into many issues with
the federal government over this, but it under the guise
of protecting people that are here in California.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Illegally.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
This bill professes to pretend like there are people being
let's see, parents ripped away from their kids, being deported.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Raids in schools. There's a whole.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Lot of excuse me, dare I say, misinformation going on
about that. But the bill, the bill's author tries to say, well,
if parents are Ice comes to their house and rips
the parents out of house while the kids at school,
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and there's no one to come and pick up a
child from school because the parents have been shuffled off
back to country of origin, there's an affidavit that anyone
can fill out to lay claim to these abandoned children
at school. Of course, is like the gist of this bill,
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because the poor child doesn't have his parents to pick
them up because they've been deported, and so therefore we
need to relax the rules for who can come and
claim a child at school or at preschool or daycare.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
And so there is such a thing as this as
an affidavit.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
Right when you sign up for your kids at school.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I've done this many times.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
You fill out the forms that say what other adults
are allowed to come get your kids. But under this bill,
it would relax the rules. Sweeping changes to the California
Family Code by expanding who can fill out a caregivers
authorization affidavit. This is a legal form that gives adults
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authority to make decisions about where children attend school and
what health care services they receive. Previously, this form limited
significant health care decisions to certain relatives. ABE four to
ninety five expands that definition to include vague categories like
non relative extended family member slash any adult who claims
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to have a mentoring or familial relationship with the child
or the child's relatives. So anyone can fill this out
this affidavit. There is no ID requirement, no verification of
identification requirement.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
The affidavit.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
The updated affidavit explicitly states three times that a parent's
signature or a court seal is not required. It removes
any doubt that a caregiver can act without the knowledge
or consent of the child's parents. So this is an
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author by assembly Woman Rodriguez.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
She's out of the La area.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Celest Rodriguez from San Fernando, just decide. Wanted to decide
for every one of us that anyone can come and
sign this affidavit and pick up your child from school
without your knowledge or consent. And there's a lot of
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details going on here, but in short, there's an incredible
amount of pushback from all over the state about this bill. So,
like I said, it is in fact today there was
a hearing in the Senate Appropriations Committe. It has already
moved through several other Senate committees that's required.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I haven't heard yet whether it passed through.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
If it does pass through today's committee, it will go
to the Senate floor for a full vote, and after
that it will go to Gavin Newsom's desk. So there's
still a very small window which time for you to
get your opinion out there about this, calling your senator
that sort of saying slash whoever else. This bill is
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ludicrously titled excuse me, the Family Preparedness Plan Act of
twenty twenty five, and this is out of the California
Globe Come claims the bill is quote a critical tool
that will preserve California's families. We must do everything we
can to safeguard families from separation and ensure children are supported.
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This is what assembly Woman Rodriguez says, right, she's assuming, oh,
the parents gonna be ripped out of their house and
deported and let their child left at school and someone
has to go and claim the child.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, this leaves.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Things wide open for people who wish to do harm
to young kids to go and claim themselves as a child.
And this is not hyperbally, this is a basically there's
free children up for grabs at your local preschool. So
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it's a rather sickening new angle to I don't know
life in California. Okay, here we go. I'm going to
take a break.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Everybody. This is Mama Bear's Radio, Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
When I come back, I want to talk just a
little bit more about four ninety five and then we
will move on, I promise. But it's still out there,
and so I wanted to give everybody an opportunity.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
If you haven't heard about.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
This, it behooves you to get educated and let your
opinions be known. All right, we will be back after
this break in.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just a minute, Mama Bear's Radio. We'll be right back
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times home.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
You're afraid today the fate, so you find yourself somebody you.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Can do the job free. Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio.
Kristin Hurley here.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
The new normal very exciting as the new normal. The
new normal is really dragging on, I have to say,
but at any rate piling on the years. Aaron Friday
getting back to AB four ninety five. As I said
last segment, it is still in the Senate. It is
headed for the Senate floor vote very soon.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Just be aware of this. Aaron Friday.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
She's an attorney president of Our Duty USA. She's a
parent led advocacy group. She calls AB four ninety five
child traffickers and kidnappers dream bill. Now, I know this
sounds like hocus pocus and scare tactics, but I, like
I can't get over the fact that the state legislature
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is erasing any sort of controls over who can come
and pick up your kids.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Listen to this.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
There's no background check, no welfare check, no court oversight,
and no verification. All you need is a piece of
paper that says this is from Aaron Friday. She's referring
to this affidavit and so in a form of identification
with no obligation for the adult handing the child over
to verify the identification impresstof someone walks away with your child.
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Friday also rejects the bill's author Rodriguez's claim that this
bill is narrowly tailored to immigration emergencies. The bill's language
applies to any child for any reason, regardless of immigration status,
and grants temporary legal rights to individuals with no blood relation,
including people who may not even be known to the
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child's parents. The stranger can consent to medical treatments for
the child, and the bill absolves the doctors from any
liability should the adult consenting not have any actual legal
connection to the child. Aaron Friday says, we're talking about
a legal pathway for predators to operate in planes and
plain sight. This bill is not about immigration. It's about
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relinquishing parental rights to unvetted strangers under the guise of compassion.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
All right, I'm gonna leave it there. You can look
this up.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
In fact, there's plenty of people that are at issue
with this bill and making noise. In fact, I believe
there's a big rally in Sacramento about it tomorrow. It
just is, you know, unbelievable to me that the state
of California would be like, yeah, anyone in the brother
can lay claim to a child, fill out an affidavit,
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present it to its school, or daycare with a quote ID,
but no one is required to verify that ID. There's
no court, there's no family court jurisdiction over this. There's nothing,
and they can come and claim your child and off
they go.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Okay, yikes.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
I sometimes have to let like, what the heck kind
of twilight zone is? Is? Why do I sit on
the radio in a room, as my daughter pointed out
the other just talking to yourself. Mom. It sounds this
sounds crazy, it sounds I don't know, it's just it's
unbelievable to me.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
I suppose that.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
I sit here and talk at all this crazy stuff, but.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Someone's got to say it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
It's like if you have, as I say, rip the
veil off and you just start paying attention to the
world around you on what's going on.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
You know.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I don't view this as politics. I view this as
I'm an American citizen. This is my country, this is
my government I pay for, and the government is so
specifically limited in the founding concept and the founding documents of.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Our nation.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Bill of Rights, it is absolutely limited ability to touch
me as a sovereign American person, as a free person
of this country, and every day every day there's like
other people around like I have a great idea what's
best for you? And I'm going to implement my great
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idea and you can't do a thing about it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Oh yeah, yeah. So I just think that the you
know that.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
This is not partisan, divisive politics here that I'm talking about.
This is something that is relevant to absolutely everyone out there.
And again, you don't even have to have kids or
have to be a grandparent or whatever to be concerned,
uh for stay overreach like this. And it's not it's
(22:45):
not what the founding fathers of this country set out
to do.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's not what God has.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Presented to us as God's children that we you know,
we answer to God.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
We do not answer or to the state. Firmly believe that.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
And somewhere along the line, someone's gotten that awfully backwards.
And I'm not just gonna sit and passively let it
go at any rate.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
There's my little tirade when we come.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Back speaking of the state, excuse me another state v.
Humanity story to bring up to you, so well, in
this time it's New York State. All right, everybody, Mama
Bear's radio.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I gotta take my other break. I'll be back in
just a minute Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
We'll be right back, all right, Welcome back to Mama
(24:02):
Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, I'm I'm messing up. I
really wanted to get to this, so I bury my
I bury my articles in a big pile here of
stuff that I wanted to talk to about. There there
was something I'm desperate to get to. So I'm going
to renag just a little bit on my promised States
(24:25):
versus humanity subject. I'm going to talk real quick about this,
and I want to get to the next parenting trend, sorry,
the next one of the next big questions in what
are we doing here on this planet? Okay, but at
any rate, So I'm, as you all know, very big
(24:51):
into medical freedom. As a sovereign, autonomous person, as I
like to say, I want to decide for myself what
goes in the bod.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
And I don't don't think that.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Any agency, government, certainly anyone else on the planet should
get to decide for me or anyone else what you do.
And mandatory xyzs, compulsory requirements of you must do this
or you can't do that, kind of carot and a
(25:21):
stic tactics of the government absolutely, in my humble opinion,
goes beyond the Bill of Rights and right into the
trash heap. While we work on all of these major
issues of medical freedom, there's a really interesting case that
was just decided rerually in favor of a particular plaintiff
(25:46):
in New York, a student who was being denied her
medical vaccine exemption by the state.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
She was barred from attending school.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
The court has said there's an injunction on the state
and she will be allowed to return to her classes
in September. So the Ocean Side Union Free School District
had refused to allow Sarah Do to attend classes unless
she took a third dose of the hepatitis B vaccine. Now,
New York is one of the states, like California, that
has removed any sort of exemptions whatsoever. You will comply,
(26:23):
or you do not receive your education from the state,
or you do it only at their good pleasure in homeschooling,
or whatever other scenarios. You are a Class B citizen
if you don't comply. In other words, and what happened
(26:45):
was Sarah and her family had a religious exemption for
the vaccine schedule as a young person. And in twenty nineteen,
I'm paraphrasing, this is a case. This was reported out
of the Defender News, out of Children's Health Defense, who
also were in part sponsors of this lawsuit. But in
twenty nineteen, Sarah was forced to get a whole host
(27:07):
of the vaccines to catch up with the schedule because
the state denied her religious exemption and she ended up
taking a number of the shots in.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Sort of quick succession.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
She had incredible reactions, physical reactions to the shots. She
was very vaccine injured for a number of years, still
going on to this day. She's been told by it's
six different treating physicians that she could be harmed or
killed from taking this last shot. So the school is saying,
(27:44):
the district is saying, you cannot attend school because you
haven't completed this third dose of the het be vaccine. Well,
she apparently, I'm gonna find this in the article. Nearly
passed away twice. She's got kidney issues, all sorts of
medical medical issues now because of the vaccines that she
(28:05):
did take in quick succession.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
In order to comply with their whatever to go to school.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
And she has said and said to the district she
has medical exemptions from these physician physicians who say you
cannot take this third vaccine, and so the district said, well, sorry,
you can't come to school. So in just in brief,
(28:34):
this is a major win. I expect that this was
in a New York federal jurisdiction. The judge ruled in
favor of Sarah Doo, and I expect this to reverberate
like the Supreme Court case Taylor versus Mamood, reverberate through
(28:54):
other states who refuse religious or medical exemptions for vaccines
for parents and students. This will inform future cases. So
this is actually really fantastic news. The article says, when
she tried to get vaccinated on her own, against medical advice,
(29:18):
right to go get this third dose so that she
could attend school this fall, the walking clinic at a
pharmacy refused to vaccinate her because of her compromised health.
Yet the school district knows better and they still refuse.
They denied her exemption request multiple times. They argued that
her symptoms were not listed as examples on the CDC's guidelines,
(29:40):
and therefore they disbelieved her medical exemption, even though it
came straight from the doctor.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
So this is a big win.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Whether or not the district appeals, I don't know, but
it is a big win for medical freedom and autonomy
of choice, public.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Education, you know, stuff like this.
Speaker 3 (30:02):
I have friends whose children do not attend school, public school.
They're forced to do their own thing because they are
second class citizens for their various reasons, which, as I've
stated before, I do not think should even have to
be categorized as religious beliefs. It's none of your dang
business why I do or do not want a particular
(30:25):
substance put in my body or my kids' bodies.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
And I have the ability to get it if.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I reject it, if I want.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So we'll see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That just was encouraging, okay, and now to the existential.
I came across this article in the New York Times.
It's actually a transcript of an interview. It's titled the
next parenting Trend starts before conception. For as little as
twenty five hundre dollars, you can choose your future baby
(31:02):
and should you. And I went, oh my gosh, here
we go, which, of course, this is the stuff of
sci fi movies and the tinfoil hat types but it
is here genetic testing of babies, designer babies, so to speak.
There's a new company, Orchid Company, that promises parents the
(31:26):
ability to protect their children, their future children through genetic
testing for embryos before pregnancy. Now, excuse me, I take
issue with that. We'll get into this a little bit.
The founder nor Sidiqui. That's how I'm going to pronounce
her last name, and Ross Ross dou Hat. I think
of the New York Times debate the scientific, moral, and
(31:48):
ethical implications of designing a healthy child and what we
lose in separating reproduction from sex. I'm going to try
and get through some of this. This is food for
thought for all of us. We're not strangers to the
fact that, over the last decade or two or even
(32:08):
further quote unquote genetic testing. You know, you've got the
ability to, at least on more rudimentary levels, look inside
at the baby in the belly. And we've had long
since questions about, well, if you find something you don't like.
(32:29):
I think the early testing, of course, looked at some
very basic things like down syndrome or a few basic
major sort of defects or health issues with the baby.
And what this new company orchid is is a far
(32:49):
deeper look at the exact or excuse me, quote unquote
what they deem to be your exact one hundred percent
DNA line of your baby, where they claim to be
able to very accurately predict what your genes.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
I know this is all like, this.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Is the tongue in cheek exactly what diseases your baby,
your future child may or may not have childhood cancers,
heart disease, diabetes, mental health issues. This article, which is really,
like I said, sort of a transcript of their interview,
(33:31):
makes some shocking crazy claims about what this company or
kid can do. However, they are open for business and
apparently are doing business.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
And I really want to I want to.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Quote a little bit of this just as a food
for thought. The sci fi movie is here, It's at
our doorstep.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Are people.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Really doing this where they're gonna pick and choose now?
And I have to take a break in just two seconds,
So let me set the stage just a little bit. IVF.
IVF is a common practice already, lots of ways to
debate whether it, you know, the moral.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Sort of gray areas of this.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Harvest your eggs fertilize with sperm, take a look under
the microscope, pick out what looks like the viable ones,
either freeze them or implant them in a uterus, sometimes
many at a time, just to get a bunch of
viable ones. Going see what works, See what takes IVF.
(34:40):
If you drive down the freeway, drive down Highway eighty
or wherever there's billboards advertising, oh this hospital IVF, and
I you know, and there are of course plenty of
people who've tried to conceive for ages and ages and
ages and utilize this technology is a viable way to
(35:00):
get to a viable pregnancy and have a child.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
IVF is also, of course used more to farious.
Speaker 3 (35:11):
Ways stuff that doesn't sit well with me, surrogacy in particular,
you know, people who purchase children.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Excuse me. I'm not going to get into that right now.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But what I do want to mention, and I'll take
my break and then come back and talk a little
bit about this for the rest of my show.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
So many major ethical.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Problems with this technology and with the excuse me, the
hubris and the audacity of people who are essentially playing
golf and making babies, and excuse me, harvesting cells from
(36:08):
embryos and then proclaiming that through the algorithms and all
their predictive technology and all the data that they know,
that they can say definitively what the future holds for
your kid. And then you go and choose whether or
not you want that already growing embryo, if you want
(36:31):
it or not based on what someone else is predicting
is going to.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Be their future.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
It's such a crazy, play good thing, and we have
to face facts. This is out there. It's not something
that's particularly in my purview regularly, but I came across
this piece and it really was tons of food for thought.
So let me stop my babble play my commercials.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Come back.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
We'll cover just a little bit this of the subject.
Kristin Hurley're Mama Bear's Radio.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
I'll be right back.
Speaker 3 (37:18):
Welcome back to Mama Bear's Radio. Kristin Hurley here, wrapping
up second hour here of a beautiful Monday afternoon on
the Monterey Bay. All right, guys, real quick here, I'm
talking this new company, Orchid article from the New York Times.
(37:39):
The next parenting trend starts before conception. Okay, so Orchid
first company in the world they claim that allows parents
to actually sequence the entire genome of an embryo, sequencing
ninety nine percent of the bases in an embryo's genome,
which allows parents to detect risks for some of the
most serious conditions heart efects, birth effects, pediatric cancers, developmental disorders.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
They claim that.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Things that massively change the trajectory of child's life, and
the vast majority.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Of these diseases don't have cures.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
This is the interview with nor Sidiqui, who is from
this company, Orchid, and she goes on to say, so,
here's right, there's ivf right. Everyone's pretty familiar with that process.
You take eggs from the female, excuse me, the female
(38:37):
that makes eggs, and fertilize the eggs, and then you
decide whether what you're gonna do with them. Do you
free them, do you implant them more whatever. So she says,
once you fertilize eggs with a partner sperm, those embryos
grow for five days.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
This is what Orchid does.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
On day five, they typically have about one hundred and
twenty five cells. If you choose to use Orchid, five
of those cells get sent to Orchid's lab, so they
go in. Excuse me, she says. The procedure through Orchid,
you take sample cells from the embryos. You can think
of it as a haircut, she says, So you take
(39:16):
your baby embryo and out of one hundred and twenty
five cells, you slice off five of them. And so
then Orchid sequences the entire genome and it's called genome,
a whole old genome sequencing. And they go into a
bit of technical details. So they're the first company to
(39:41):
commercially clinically use this technology and in general, I think,
you know, this is something that you can use blood
or saliva to do. They're able to do it with
just the five cells from the embryo, and they do
this process for anyone. So she claims that the company,
(40:03):
you don't have to be an older couple that are
worried about infertility or maybe genetic genetic issues or whatever
for your children. She says, they have couples of all
walks of life that have utilized their services. And so
(40:25):
the interviewer says, well, how many conditions are you doing
scores for? So they have a number of scores that
come back, a bunch of reports that comes back, excuse me,
in three to four weeks, with a number of reports
on your embryos. So if I may pause right there,
this process, okay, fine, five days a fertilized egg, sell
(40:48):
it's an embryo, and they slice a little haircut off
of it three to four weeks later. That's an incredibly
more advanced creature you're talking about. There's a little baby.
It's not a Clympus cells. This is my position here,
and so at this point in your excuse me, and
(41:09):
it's not a pregnancy yet, So this is still the
embryos are existing outside of your body. This is what
they're saying, and so you, as a parent, are waiting
to see what comes back in the reports for these embryos. However,
many of them that you have that are fertilized, and
(41:30):
so the report goes on to say they are looking
for over twelve hundred monogenic disorders, things like birth defects,
heart effects, skeletal defects, pediatric cancers, adult onset cancers, neurodevelopmental disorders. Whereover,
she claims, you know, the last twenty years, geneticists have
(41:53):
cataloged here's this specific gene, this specific variant, and it
leads to this disorder. And so again about one hundred
twelve hundred conditions these reports will provide do you do
you're a little fertilized embryo or a little bit baby
in a lab somewhere wherever it is three to four
(42:13):
weeks later, does it have any of the signs of
these future potential diseases or conditions? And the next level
is polygenic conditions, and these are conditions influenced by multiple genes.
So the interviewer goes on to say, you know what
(42:35):
about these.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
And so this is basically.
Speaker 3 (42:41):
Where they say they use a bunch of algorithms to
predict well, with this particular combination of genes, how likely
is it that your future, this future person develops this
sort of disease or condition, And there's all sorts of stuff.
(43:04):
Now listen, this is where I completely well, oh, this
is where I went bonkers in this article, she says,
this is sidiqui. We've talked about monogenetic disease, monogenic disease,
and for a lot of diseases you may be familiar with,
things like bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, heart disease, and diabetes, they're
(43:27):
not driven by one genetic typo. They're driven by the
cumulative impact of many millions of variants collectively driving risk.
Now that has never ever, ever been proven any one
of those four things that she just mentioned.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
You can't prove that.
Speaker 3 (43:45):
They do not have a clear genetic test for O, say, schizophrenia.
This is a complete miss excuse me, misinformation, malinformation, disinformation.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
That doesn't exist.
Speaker 3 (44:02):
And so what's funny is so she's claiming, Okay, fine,
our predictive, our DNA predictive algorithms in our system are
going to decide, well, you have a particular combination of
genes that could lead to these sort of disorders.
Speaker 2 (44:20):
Maybe.
Speaker 3 (44:22):
But so you're going to get all these reports about
your future child that not only have okay, well a
distinct genetic variant for twelve hundred diseases, but then the
potential because you've got a combination of genes or variants
(44:42):
or whatever that we think may lead to X, y Z,
here's your risk score for all of these susceptibility to
these potential problems that your kid might have. So my mind,
of course at this point, and I'm gonna have to
wrap this up in this interview, is completely blown.
Speaker 2 (44:59):
So you're going to get back as.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
A you know, hopeful parent or a young couple or
a who knows what you are looking to get a baby,
and you're going to get this report that has the
humorous and the audacity to say definitively, here's what this
future person.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Is going to have to deal with.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
But she says that the customer base is already in
the many thousands. She wasn't specific, and they are working
full scale to make this available to everyone and grow
the prevalence in the commonality that you know and the
(45:49):
commonality of oh, of course, we want to be a
good parent, and we're going to screen for diseases before
we even consider allowing this embryo to implant and grow
to fruition.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
It's just nuts.
Speaker 3 (46:06):
I may revisit this next week if you guys are
so lucky, But in the meantime, I've got drivetime to
go and do so. Stay tuned for School's at Drivetime
show here at koy ko y La Salva Beach and
the Monterey Bay home of Schoolhouse Radio.
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