August 13, 2025 • 38 mins
What if Rush Limbaugh crashed SNL? The hottest political and cultural stories of the week, from the perspective of Christian conservative comedian Mark Moseley.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
And now a Global Warming Minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, I'm Al Gore, and today I'm here in Nome, Alaska,
where it's a crisp twenty one degrees, the ice is stunning,
and there's a beautiful, full grown Kodiak bear just off
behind us, about two hundred yards. He's trying to catch
a fish in that icy stream, where he's not having
much luck because the ecosystem is out of balance and
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there aren't any fish left in that stream. It's been
destroyed by rampant global warming, and this gentle giant will
soon be dead, killed by man's irresponsibility. Is that what
you want? You want to see a bear dye a
cute little bear? Is that how you get your kicks?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Huh? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well? I'm not gonna let him die. I am one
with nature and I will personally save this majestic northern
brown bear from extinction. I have a fish for which
I will now feed to him, just like his mother
used to before he grew to be seven hundred pounds
and eleven feet tall. You think George Bush would come
out here and feed a bear. No, he's hiding on
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his ranch down in Texas. Now I'm gonna put the
fish in my mouth and the bear broke unarder er
that it's me alcore friend to all animals, well generally
preferred from my mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh oh good, here.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
What was I thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
This has been a global Warming minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Welcome again to Mark Moseley's show.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
I'm you guessed it, Mark Moseley, And that little piece
of comedy is from my vault.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's a radio sketch that I put.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Together back in two thousand and five during the Bush administration.
That's how many decades I have been mocking climate hysteria
because they just keep moving the goalposts. I recently saw
this when it comes to environment and climate change, they're
recycling the old hysteria.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Here's a perfect example of that.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Glacier National Park for years had a sign that was
put up that said the glaciers would be gone by
twenty twenty, and it got kind of awkward in twenty
twenty when twenty twenty came and went and the glaciers
were still there. And so instead of apologizing, instead of
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go oh oh wait, we missed the mark on that one,
We got that one wrong, they just changed out the
sign and pushed it back to probably twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
The glaciers will be gone by twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
And I remember John Carey said in there's video of it,
you can go check it out on YouTube. In five
years we will have the first ice free Arctic summer. Well, no,
that didn't happen. Sixteen years ago, CBS News quoted a study.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Arctic ice will melt within ten years. The North Pole
will turn into an open sea within a decade, according
to data released by a team of explorers who trek
for the Arctic for three months. Then CBS News again
on March fifth last year, posted very similar Could the
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Arctic be ice free within a decade?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
They just keep moving the goalpost. I love this.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I love this post from x a user named Donnie
Ferguson at Donnie Ferguson, I'm going to attribute this to you.
The climate change industry is that furniture store with the
going out of business sign that's faded by the sun.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Bingo exactly nailed it. You know.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I started thinking about this this week because a friend
of mine, who have known for over twenty years, she
said to me, do you know how how much China
is involved in pushing climate change science? In the West,
and so I looked into it. I went down that
rabbit hole and asked, AI, are there climate change studies
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underwritten or funded by Chinese interests? And the answer came
back yes. Here's a breakdown of what's been publicly reported
backed by verifiable sources. Energy Foundation China EFC funding US research.
EFC is a nonprofit operating out of San Francisco and
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closely tied to former Chinese government officials, and they have
funnel grants into US climate initiatives. In twenty twenty three,
it allocated six hundred and thirty thousand dollars to universities
including Harvard U SEE, Berkeley, UCLA, UMD for research on
clean energy and low carbon urban planning. It has also
directed one point five million toward climate focused nonprofits such
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as the Rocky Mountain Institute and the RDC. In past years,
it provided over a million dollars in total to a
Department of Energy National Lab for green energy research. So
wait a minute, not the Chinese government is funding our
government research projects, But don't worry. EFC has formally said
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they received no funding from governments or from the CCP
to promote climate change research. Slash hysteria. Meanwhile, they just
finished building over the last five years, like over one
hundred coal fired plants. To be fair, China is also
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building quite a spectacular wind and solar infrastructure, but they
are funding climate change, and they seem to have a
vested interest in making sure that in the West, we really,
really still believe that the climate is changing. Yes, the
climate is changing, the climate's always changing, and yes, man
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is driving. Man's activity does drive some of that climate change.
But to what degree I've never understood. Okay, what is
the target and what is the end goal? When can
we say, hey, guys, we defeated climate change. Yeah, it's
Miller time.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
We did it.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Guys, we defeated climate change. We beat the sun, we
beat the thermo energy being generated from inside the Earth's core.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
We did it.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
So I started back in the early the late nineties,
early two thousands, I started making these al Gore global
warming minutes.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I have dozens of these. Would you like to hear
another one?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And now a global warming minute with al Gore.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Ha.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm Nobel and Oscar winner al Gore, And today I'm
near Indian Peak in Colorado, here to shut the flapping
pileholes of all you global warming naysayers who like to say, well,
al Gore, what about the big snowstorm that the US
is having this week? How does that fit into your
global warming? Simple it's not real snow, that's right. George W.
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Bush has secret teams of snow blowing black helicopters that
fly around under the cover of night, covertly blowing man
made snow onto major cities to fool you into thinking
that global warming, as the kids say, ain't happening, daddy.
The truth is there is no more snow on the Earth.
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It's been warmed into extinction. And when it comes to
a big giant mountain like the one behind me, painted on,
that's right, it's sprayed on by more black helicopters that
fly around with giant paint sprayers. Think I'm crazy, Well,
I'll prove my theory by firing this shotgun at the
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mountain peak directly behind me. Half that was real snow
and not just white spray paint. An avalanche would come crashing.
What is that crumbling sound? Oh God, maybe that Yep,
it's real snow. Well, don't worry. I'm our Gore friend
to all animals. I will just call a pair of
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bald eagles who would come and lift me up and
fly me away to safety. Proo croo.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Pre cring croom.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well that's not working.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Maybe I'd better run.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, this has been a global warming minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
It's Mark Moseley's show. I'm Mark Mosley.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Don't forget to follow me on social media at Mark
Moseley on x, on Facebook, on Instagram, on youtubems e
L E y. Speaking of China, you know we love
the Babylon b on this show. We love this ten
undeniable reasons Communist China is way better than America. Glory
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to glorious Leader, President g If you listen to the
news media, it's clear that America has become the most
horrible and oppressive country in the world, which means people
should be looking for a better place to live, like
communist China. The Babylon Bee has compiled the following list
of examples of how China is way better than living
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in America. One zero global pandemic started in the last
four years. Wow, while four years in a row is impressive.
Two Total freedom of speech. From within your four x
four confinement cell, you can literally say anything you want
in there very generous. Three there are a million places
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to learn cong fu. Everyone in China is a martial
arts master. Four The government will harvest all your extra
unnecessary organs for free convenient.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Five.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Gay characters are all edited out of movies the way
God intended it, quoting the Babylon b Here. Six the
president is the most handsome fellow in the world and
does not look anything like Winnie the Pooh. He looks
like Robert Redford, only even more handsome, and he's so
so smart. Trump must be very jealous. Seven nobody has
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to deal with the hassle of elections. Just watch the
state run news to find out who your new leaders are.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Much more relaxing. Eight they have gongs. You bang on
them and they make a huge noise. Do you have
a gong? Didn't think so.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Nine Slave labor keeps production costs super low as long
as you're okay being the slave. And ten authentic Chinese
food available to everyone with a social credit score of
at least five thousand. Don't act like the reasons listed above.
Don't have you packing your bags to move to China.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's Mark Moseley's show.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Follow Mark on x Instagram and Facebook at Mark Moseley
and subscribe for new episodes weekly on your favorite podcast platform.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And now shallow thoughts by al Ibrul. When Democrats jerry mander,
it's to better represent their constituency. When Republican's jerry mander,
it's an evil power grab and a threat to our republic,
I mean democracy.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well, Donald Trump kicked it up a notch bam by
federalizing the police force in d C. Of course the
media is losing their minds.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I should note that the most violent moment in recent
history in DC was January sixth, and it was an
attack on the United States Capital by a lot of
people who are doing it in the name of Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Ah, yes, January sixth. January sixth, let's dust that old
chestnut off Gretchen.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
And of course, the people in DC, they don't want
a savior. They don't want to be saved.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Oh City, Free DC, Free DC.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
They don't want to be saved. Please don't save us
from the criminals. We want barabbas. Give us barabbas, Give
us barabbas. It is your message. No, we don't want
help in reducing crime. Here's why I'm gonna tell you
why the left is so mad about this. It's just
one more example of because what Democrats do is they say,
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give us power and we'll fix the problem. Okay, Republicans
do it too, but it never got done. But the
minute Trump says, Okay, I'll do it, now, everybody's mad.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We're just gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We're just gonna go in there and we're gonna clean
up the city of DC.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And you're not gonna believe it. It's gonna be so beautiful.
It's gonna be so much better. Meanwhile, over on CNN,
they were deriding actor Dean Kane, who decided he was
going to join ICE.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
There's a there's a massive amount of recruitment going on
because they now have a huge amount of money to
hire new Ice.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
In the Superman community.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And so that's Dean.
Speaker 10 (14:12):
But I'm just telling you he's inactively going to be
an honorary share.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well will he?
Speaker 10 (14:16):
But heading someone like that out touting it, talking about, hey,
this is a this is a thing you can do
for your government, This is public service. It's going to
help them recruit and they have a bunch of people
to recruit.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, it's not ninety five.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Nobody gives a sam hell with Dean Kative, you don't
be a conservative community.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Dean fifty thousand, that's what That's what got.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Deg off the worked in a while. All right, let
me just stop you right there.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Do you know how many projects Dean was acted in
in twenty twenty four seventeen? He is fifteen projects currently
in production. The consensus on his net worth seems to
be that he's worth about ten million dollars, which to
left is more than anyone needs, right, guys, Right, So, no,
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Dean Kane does not need the ice agent job. He
probably needs to pay his fair share. If anything, I
don't like when the left does this with actors having
worked in show business a little bit myself a little bit.
But in show business people have career arcs, and look,
sometimes you're on top of the world and you've got
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your own network TV show that you're starring in, and
then sometimes you don't. But that doesn't take away your
body of work, that doesn't take away the Emmys on
the shelf. Personally, I will likely never top two thousand
and four. That was the year that Mulan two came out,
which was a culmination of a lifelong dream for me
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to be associated with Walt Disney, who was my childhood
hero and as a kid, I just I dreamed about
being connected to him in some way and then it
happened when I got to do Mulan too. That was
also the year that Shrek two came out, and I
had two small parts in that movie, which got me
on the residual train for that movie, which was massive.
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But yes, careers have arcs. Elton John is quoted as saying, yes,
my days on pop radio are over. And I know that,
and I accept it, and I'm not unhappy about it.
Although a couple of years ago he had like two
hits in a row, one of them with Britney Spears,
and he also said something to the effect of you
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may not be topping the charts, but if you've got
a body of work that people love, they will come
out and see you perform all the old songs. So,
you know, pity poor Elton John. I guess he's just
a loser, right, So.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You know, layoff Dean Kine.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And now on Mark Mosley Show, it's time for Church
Chat with Matt Well as NAT's bashaw.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
That's an eighties reference.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Which you won't get me apparently not being a young
man in your twenties. From yes, Dana Carvey go to
church lady. Well, is that spashal who put that idea
in your head?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Could it have been? Oh, I don't know, say that
was the big running joke that they had on that show.
Any actually had like taste, they had, they had good,
good writers. It pretty much ended with Will Ferrell and
that was a we can we can agree on that. Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So this is a segment where you and I, who
are father and son, were of the same denomination. We're
both believers, yes, but we don't necessarily agree on everything.
For example, I think in the past you and I
have had disagreements about Cessatianism. Yes, for for people that
don't know what that means, what that word means, it
is the idea that that miracles were pretty much a
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first century thing because the Holy Spirit needed to work
in bold ways to get the church off the ground.
And now the concept is among many believers today.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
You can pick it up from there that.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Yeah, I would say that cessationism the big idea is
that the sign gifts that are talked about in a
number of the Pauline epistles, namely speaking in Tongues, the
Gift of Healing, Gift of prophecy. They were issues that
were key within the church because people needed to see
the working of the Holy Spirit in order to validate
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the message of the apostles. I think that overwhelmingly, at
least within the younger generations right now, the charismatic movement,
it's probably at its highest that it's been because it
drives off of the emotional value of worship. And so
one of the big things is that a lot of
young people want that rush, they want that feeling, they
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want excitement. They feel that their lives are likely very
dull because of the repetitiveness of every day checking your phone,
you know, doom scrolling, all that stuff. So when you've
got this movement that emphasizes the working of the Holy
Spirit and high stakes emotion, that's naturally going to draw
a crowd. However, I will say that I think that
there is a pendulum swing in the other direction that
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a lot of people are looking at non denominational Christianity.
I think that Orthodoxy Catholicism are experiencing a surge because
of people like Donald Trump, people that are in government
right now that are bolstering for traditional values, the rise
of the Western political mindset that is pushing back into
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the spotlight things like Catholicism and Orthodox practice.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So which brings us to the first thing that I
wanted to talk about, Yes, and that is this post
that Pete Hegseth posted that had a lot of people
on the far left freaking out because, you know, one
of the boogeymen that they always see is that we're
going to we're going to have like we're just one
strong man leader away from having some kind of theotocracy.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, you know where.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
You know, it's the Handmaid's Tale, and you know, women
are all subjugated and and it's you know, it's it's
this Christian authoritarian rule for America. And so they see
that hiding around every corner. And so when Pete Hegseth
posted what he did.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, so you're talking specifically about that Doug Wilson piece.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Right, Doug Wilson is his name. Yeah, so dig into
the details. They talked to one of his congregants who
was a man and his wife, and the woman was like, yes,
I totally submit to my husband.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Yeah, The biggest problem with CNN, naturally, is that they're
just going to straw man everything. Yeah, and they're going
to do the over generalization fallacy of you.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Know, well, this must be all Christians. Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
They Christian men secretly want to subjugate their wives.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Right if they can, if they can propagate this caricaturized
version of what Christianity actually is, then they can convince
the masses overwhelmingly that it is an immediate threat that
needs to be neutralized, that it is the exact opposite
of what the Bible actually calls the Christian faith and
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modern Christian living.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Like it's so, I mean, look yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Just just in our very own household under this roof. Yeah,
you know your mom, is she gonna allow me.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
To subjugate her? No? No, no, Well, now.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Look there are women out there that that will that
are cool with this.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, but that's because.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
That's their mindset. They want to let their husband lead
and they want to follow.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
But that doesn't also mean that there aren't times where
she does recognize that that the decision, the final decision
you make on something, or even just an opinion that
you might have on something is blatantly like more, it
makes more sense to go with that thing. So I
think that naturally the way in which husbands and wives
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are rooted. When when you understand the strife that's going
on within the realm of a marriage, Satan wants to
attack the family. He wants to go after the family dynamic.
He wants to go after the covenant of marriage because
it is one of the first things that God creates
outside of the natural creation itself, outside of the cosmos
and outside of the earth and everything in it. He
creates man, and then from man he creates woman, and
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then he creates the covenant of marriage.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
And he knows that it's the very glue that holds
all of civilization together. Correct.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Without it, you have complete chaos, You have everybody doing
whatever they feel like at any point in time. The
covenant of marriage is for most people, at least.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
My age, they think it's a trap.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
They think it is something that, oh, I have to
commit to one person for the rest of my life
and I never get to enjoy the pleasures of sex
outside of marriage and adultery and all these different fornication,
especially with the rapid rise of pornography, I mean, just
all of these things are in tension with each other,
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and I think that Satan is going to do whatever
he can and is succeeding, at least from our vantage
point in the West, to completely emasculate the man and
neutralize him, get him into such a slave mindset when
it comes to the pleasures of the flesh that he
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has no idea that he's been completely neutralized and almost
neutered in a sense. I mean, you look at most
men today. Not only do you see a correlation between,
for example, the rapid rise and consumption of pornography and
the manner in which not only men treat women but
also then behave in society. There are guys who just
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overwhelmingly will do whatever it is they feel like because
they don't feel like they have any consequences to their actions.
And that's part of the problem. When you look at something,
for example, like pornography, the overwhelming thing is I can
take whoever is in this imagery, whoever is in these videos,
and use them as an object, and there's nobody who's
going to come around and actually tell you know that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
So what I want to put a fine point on
to go back to, like the I think the original
concern or question that people listening might have is that
this pastor that Hegsath is referring to, do you see
something like this as a movement. If it is a movement,
I mean obviously we as Christians to say, well, it's
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not an unhealthy movement, because what we do kind of
need to do, I think in our society, in Western
culture is kind of restore the balance of man and
woman and say there are clearly defined roles, and those
things worked for thousands of years, and now that we're
in this era where we've upended all of that, We've
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upended gender roles, and we've upended the man's role in
society and the woman's role in society and their roles
in marriage and their roles in a family. Now all
of a sudden, look, we have chaos everywhere. Yeah, So
a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
First of all, I think probably one of the best
resources that you could get your hands on if you
want to learn more about the biblical principles of the
roles of men and women within Christianity or more specifically
in the Church, is called Men and Women in the
Church by Kevin Deyung.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
I've read through it.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
It's a short biblical practical introduction on the concept of
you know, complementarianism and egalitarianism, all that stuff like how
how do we view the roles between men and women?
What I will say about Doug Wilson is that there's
a lot of things that I that I disagree with
him on regard.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Okay, and I do too, Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
I think that I think part of the biggest problem
with and this is this is something that I might
take a minority view on as compared to most evangelical
Christians in America today, is that this hyper fixation on
what I can only call prophetic dispensational Christian nationalism, if
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you know, if you can name it anything, is that
we have on both sides, on both the left and
on the right, have glorified people to a status of
Messiah that they cannot fulfill. And the problem is that
both sides have no problem assuming that role, failing miserably
at it, and then blaming the other side for their failures.
For example, I think that way too many people have
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a problem pointing out no wrong whatsoever with people like
Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris. But what I will say, though,
is that there are people on the right who also
do the same thing where they say, oh, well Trump
can do no wrong. No, I disagree. I think that
he is a I think he is a very very
flawed human being, just like I think Joe Biden is
a flawed human being. Same thing with Barack Obama, Kamala Harris.
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And this has nothing to do with you know, gender
roles or skin color.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Sin is sin.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
And I think that when you look at a guy,
and I'm getting to a point here, when you look
at a guy like Doug Wilson, one of the views
that he holds his postmillennialism. Part of the problem with
postmillennialism is that.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
It heavily.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
The Church playing a crucial role in introducing Christ to
the rest of the world. It assumes that everything is
going to get better as time goes on, that the
majority of the world, that the nations will come to Christ.
And though we want that, but I don't think the
Bible ever says that, Well, there are there are places,
obviously where people have credible enough information to try and
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make an argument for it. What my dilemma is is
that I'm looking around outside of the West, people are
dying for the faithful.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
O Boko Haram and isis. Yeah, and in places like Nigeria,
oh my gosh, Sri Lanka, all Tibet, and we think
in the West, because it's not happening here.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It's not happening. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Meanwhile, people are getting their heads cut off because simply
because they believe in Jesus. So listen, I want to
pivot to because you kind of gave me an opening
a couple of minutes ago. Sure, this former Megachurch youth
pastor John Pavlovitz. Now, I've been aware of this guy
for a while. He's a very anti Trump liberal social
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media person. I suspect he may be one of those
folks that the Democrat Party the DNC has on their
payroll that they pay him to post stuff. On August second,
on his sub stack, went really out there with saying
that he believes it's impossible to be a good person
and support Trump. He says some really really interesting things.
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He says this president is not a good human being,
and so then he says that anyone who is defending him,
applauding him, justifying him, celebrating him probably is also a
terrible human being quote. At this point, the only reason
left to support a man like this is that he
reflects your hateful heart. He shares your contempt people of color,
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your hostility towards outsiders, your toxic misogyny, your ignorant bigotry,
and your feelings of supremacy. He says things you believe
and hurts the people you want to hurt. I really
think he ought to be working kid's birthday parties because
he paints quite a broad caricature.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
The Left likes to do stuff like this.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
They like to take certain qualities that they've decided that
if you think this, then you must also be ABC
and D and just go ahead and label you with it.
So like, just to be clear, I have a problem
with a lot of stuff when it comes to Donald Trump.
He is not my savior. No, he is not America's messiah.
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Please don't look at him like that. Guys, we can't
just throw everything in his lap and think President Trump
will fix this country. Okay, we have to do the
work too. He is a deeply flawed human being. I've
said before on this podcast. The man paid a porn
star hush money to say I didn't have sex with
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you when my wife was pregnant, a deeply, deeply flawed
human being. But I always say, Jesus ain't running for
pre resident. And we unrepentant sinners always have to pick
between two unrepentant sinners every single election cycle. So what
you're gonna do? I had to either pick Donald Trump
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or Kamala Harris is John Pavlovitz suggesting that Kamala Harris
is you know that she's got a golden, flaming chariot
waiting outside to take her straight to heaven, right, because
she's no saint either.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Elijah right, who, by the way, in the Bible, was
a very deeply flawed human being, thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Wanted to take his own life, as was Moses Dave. Yes.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
One of the problems I think that that and and
this is it falls on deaf ears with John Pavlovitz
that first of all, I'm not I'm not honestly trying
to dog on somebody, but I think it's very hilarious
when your most credible thing is that you're a former
youth pastor. Okay, right, Like and and this is coming
from a guy who does mega church, yeah, mega church
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youth pastor, which I mean this is coming from a
guy who teaches youth ministry every week. Not that I'm
not proud of what I do, but to be you
got to be your what in your sixties? John Pavlovitz
almost sixty years old?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I'm looking at his Wikipedia.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
He was born in nineteen sixty nine, so.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
He's fifty six.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
That for that to be the only thing that you
are known for outside of your your liberalism on social media.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's kind of sad.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yeah, it's a little sad because it shows that he
wasn't really able to go farther into the meat and
potatoes than that of just simply presenting the Gospel to
a bunch of kids. Now, granted they need to hear it.
But here's a problem that I have. He assumes that
you can't be both quote, a good person and a
Trump supporter. He should know better than anybody else, especially
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as a person who teaches the scriptures. The Romans three
twenty three says that all have fallen short of the
glory of God and our deserving of death.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
That there is.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
None good, no not one. That everybody does what is
good in his own sight.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
It's not a sliding scale.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
It's not it's it's there is d or be Yeah,
there is light or dark, right, there is there is
no gray area in the Kingdom of Heaven. It is
that everybody has fallen short of the standard, and is
everybody classified a sinner. It is only when God's grace
reaches down into the pits of your despair, of your depravity,
and he pulls you out in his kindness and his
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mercy and his sovereign grace, that you are put into
this separate category, not of being better than other people,
but simply having come to the conclusion that Christ is Lord,
that he's been resurrected from the dead, that he was
crucified for your sins, and you now inherit the blessings
and the grace, and you are adopted into the family
of God. There is still a tention, though, of you
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still being a sinner, and we know this because of
Romans six and seven. There is a tension. You're both
a sinner and a saint at the same time. And
John Pavlovitch should know this better than anybody. Well, so
for him to for him to take this, this this
this idea that well, you could be a good person.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
No, you can't.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Outside of christ.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
You can know you're absolutely right. That just hit me
in the face. He's saying, you can't be a Trump
supporter and be a quote good person.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Here's the thing from there.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Is no one good and now I get it. I
get what you're saying from the perspective point is mood.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Let's go to the other side of the of the
political scale. If you look at the left, especially if
you're going to be a youth pastor, you're gonna want
to teach from a pro life stance. I cannot, in
good conscience go and vote for somebody like Kamala Harris,
not because she's a woman, but because she is fundamentally
pro choice.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
She is pro abortion.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
You cannot be a good person and vote for and support.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
So you can play the same game that John Pappa
can play, the same exact game. Yeah, just to put
a button on what you said, John Pavlovich, there is
no one good, no, not one.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
So you're right and wrong at the same time. Buddy. Yeah, Yeah,
thank Matt, thank you so much much. We got to
do this again. What is your podcast?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah, I have a podcast that's available on Spotify, soon
to be on Apple Music and other platforms as well,
it's also available on my YouTube. You can find that
Matt Moseley. Last name is spelled ms E L E Y,
same as this host right here. It's a podcast called
Led by the Shepherd. It is about the fact that
you know, this culture has lost its way and the
Shepherd's voice is clear and so I talk about a
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number of subjects. It's primarily geared at gen z and millennials,
but it's really for any age and anybody who will listen.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Good Man, all right, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's Mark Moseley's show. And now a Global Warming Minute
with Al Gore.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Al Gore, here in the forests of Cameroon in Africa,
where it's so hot, your global warmifying is causing dire
consequences for our animal friends. That's right. Every time you
crank up your hummer, another cute little spider monkey dies.
We've got to save these animals from climate change, and
if you won't do it, I will. Right now, I'm
(35:05):
disguised as an African lowland gorilla. I'm standing about one
hundred feet from a group of these gentle giants, several
females and rather large male, say about four hundred and
fifty pounds.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
He's a big fellow.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But that little one there, the baby, he's the one
I'm here to say by luring him away into a
truck and taking him to live with me in my
lovely air conditioned mansion. Come here, little one, it's okay.
I'm just a gorilla like you, a gorilla who can talk.
Come with me out for I mean, friendly stranger gorilla
(35:37):
who will save you from global warming. And when the
male is here, he's gonna want to fight me, and
I'll probably be very badly injured. He's just sniffing me
and stroking my fur. Why does my costume have the
same markings as the female gorillas?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh god, this has been a global warming minute with
Al Gore.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I told you I got dozens of those. I could
do this all day. It's Mark Mosley's show. I'm Mark
Mosley and thank you for listening. Please follow me on
social media at Mark Mosley on all platforms ex Facebook, Instagram, YouTube.
You can find this show there. You can also find
it on speaker. Give us a thumbs up, a heart,
(36:27):
a review, whatever you can, we greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
It's time to wrap up the show, as we always do.
With our Dufus of the Week.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Adam Garnett was busted running a drug ring in Blackpool
in the UK because someone involved with his gang snitched
Adam and several others and his gang, in fact, fifteen
people in all were arrested with the help of the snitch,
who is affectionately known simply as Mango. Their drug operation
(37:01):
was initially revealed when a sweep of Adam's cell that's right,
he was already in jail, revealed that he had cell
phones and Wi Fi routers. Yeah, he was pretty much
running his illegal activities from prison like Denzel in American Gangster.
The cell phones led police to the homes of several
of Adam's gang, including one Shannon Hilton, where Mango also lived.
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There they found lots of drugs, including heroin and crack cocaine,
plus lots of cash, and it was when they looked
at videos on Shannon's phone that's where they found videos
of Mango playing with piles of drug money and saying
the phrase two for twenty five, which is drug slang joy.
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To make it worse, the video show Shannon and the
gang teaching Mango to say two for twenty five in
front of children in the home. Mango was a snitch.
She can't really get mad at Mango. You see, Mango
is a parrot. The parrot was taught to say two
for twenty five and police used Mango's videos, like the
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ones of him playing in piles of drug money to
help secure convictions for Shannon Adam and the rest of
the gang. It's the old age, old cautionary tale. Be
careful what you teach your parrot to say. And no,
Mango has not been charged with any crime. But then again,
if he were, he'd be charged as a mina.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Come on, that is gold baby. Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Come on, come, don't believe.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well that was uncalled for. All right, I'm Mark Mosley.
Will be back next time. Until then, may God bless
you with
And now a Global Warming Minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hi, I'm Al Gore, and today I'm here in Nome, Alaska,
where it's a crisp twenty one degrees, the ice is stunning,
and there's a beautiful, full grown Kodiak bear just off
behind us, about two hundred yards. He's trying to catch
a fish in that icy stream, where he's not having
much luck because the ecosystem is out of balance and
(00:27):
there aren't any fish left in that stream. It's been
destroyed by rampant global warming, and this gentle giant will
soon be dead, killed by man's irresponsibility. Is that what
you want? You want to see a bear dye a
cute little bear? Is that how you get your kicks?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Huh? Is it?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Well? I'm not gonna let him die. I am one
with nature and I will personally save this majestic northern
brown bear from extinction. I have a fish for which
I will now feed to him, just like his mother
used to before he grew to be seven hundred pounds
and eleven feet tall. You think George Bush would come
out here and feed a bear. No, he's hiding on
(01:08):
his ranch down in Texas. Now I'm gonna put the
fish in my mouth and the bear broke unarder er
that it's me alcore friend to all animals, well generally
preferred from my mouth.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Oh oh good, here.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
What was I thinking?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
This has been a global Warming minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Welcome again to Mark Moseley's show.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
I'm you guessed it, Mark Moseley, And that little piece
of comedy is from my vault.
Speaker 5 (01:52):
That's a radio sketch that I put.
Speaker 6 (01:53):
Together back in two thousand and five during the Bush administration.
That's how many decades I have been mocking climate hysteria
because they just keep moving the goalposts. I recently saw
this when it comes to environment and climate change, they're
recycling the old hysteria.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Here's a perfect example of that.
Speaker 6 (02:16):
Glacier National Park for years had a sign that was
put up that said the glaciers would be gone by
twenty twenty, and it got kind of awkward in twenty
twenty when twenty twenty came and went and the glaciers
were still there. And so instead of apologizing, instead of
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go oh oh wait, we missed the mark on that one,
We got that one wrong, they just changed out the
sign and pushed it back to probably twenty thirty.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
The glaciers will be gone by twenty thirty.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
And I remember John Carey said in there's video of it,
you can go check it out on YouTube. In five
years we will have the first ice free Arctic summer. Well, no,
that didn't happen. Sixteen years ago, CBS News quoted a study.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Arctic ice will melt within ten years. The North Pole
will turn into an open sea within a decade, according
to data released by a team of explorers who trek
for the Arctic for three months. Then CBS News again
on March fifth last year, posted very similar Could the
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Arctic be ice free within a decade?
Speaker 5 (03:46):
They just keep moving the goalpost. I love this.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
I love this post from x a user named Donnie
Ferguson at Donnie Ferguson, I'm going to attribute this to you.
The climate change industry is that furniture store with the
going out of business sign that's faded by the sun.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Bingo exactly nailed it. You know.
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I started thinking about this this week because a friend
of mine, who have known for over twenty years, she
said to me, do you know how how much China
is involved in pushing climate change science? In the West,
and so I looked into it. I went down that
rabbit hole and asked, AI, are there climate change studies
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underwritten or funded by Chinese interests? And the answer came
back yes. Here's a breakdown of what's been publicly reported
backed by verifiable sources. Energy Foundation China EFC funding US research.
EFC is a nonprofit operating out of San Francisco and
(04:55):
closely tied to former Chinese government officials, and they have
funnel grants into US climate initiatives. In twenty twenty three,
it allocated six hundred and thirty thousand dollars to universities
including Harvard U SEE, Berkeley, UCLA, UMD for research on
clean energy and low carbon urban planning. It has also
directed one point five million toward climate focused nonprofits such
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as the Rocky Mountain Institute and the RDC. In past years,
it provided over a million dollars in total to a
Department of Energy National Lab for green energy research. So
wait a minute, not the Chinese government is funding our
government research projects, But don't worry. EFC has formally said
(05:41):
they received no funding from governments or from the CCP
to promote climate change research. Slash hysteria. Meanwhile, they just
finished building over the last five years, like over one
hundred coal fired plants. To be fair, China is also
(06:03):
building quite a spectacular wind and solar infrastructure, but they
are funding climate change, and they seem to have a
vested interest in making sure that in the West, we really,
really still believe that the climate is changing. Yes, the
climate is changing, the climate's always changing, and yes, man
(06:25):
is driving. Man's activity does drive some of that climate change.
But to what degree I've never understood. Okay, what is
the target and what is the end goal? When can
we say, hey, guys, we defeated climate change. Yeah, it's
Miller time.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
We did it.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
Guys, we defeated climate change. We beat the sun, we
beat the thermo energy being generated from inside the Earth's core.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
We did it.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
So I started back in the early the late nineties,
early two thousands, I started making these al Gore global
warming minutes.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
I have dozens of these. Would you like to hear
another one?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
And now a global warming minute with al Gore.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
Ha.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
I'm Nobel and Oscar winner al Gore, And today I'm
near Indian Peak in Colorado, here to shut the flapping
pileholes of all you global warming naysayers who like to say, well,
al Gore, what about the big snowstorm that the US
is having this week? How does that fit into your
global warming? Simple it's not real snow, that's right. George W.
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Bush has secret teams of snow blowing black helicopters that
fly around under the cover of night, covertly blowing man
made snow onto major cities to fool you into thinking
that global warming, as the kids say, ain't happening, daddy.
The truth is there is no more snow on the Earth.
(08:01):
It's been warmed into extinction. And when it comes to
a big giant mountain like the one behind me, painted on,
that's right, it's sprayed on by more black helicopters that
fly around with giant paint sprayers. Think I'm crazy, Well,
I'll prove my theory by firing this shotgun at the
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mountain peak directly behind me. Half that was real snow
and not just white spray paint. An avalanche would come crashing.
What is that crumbling sound? Oh God, maybe that Yep,
it's real snow. Well, don't worry. I'm our Gore friend
to all animals. I will just call a pair of
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bald eagles who would come and lift me up and
fly me away to safety. Proo croo.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Pre cring croom.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well that's not working.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Maybe I'd better run.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, this has been a global warming minute with Al Gore.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
It's Mark Moseley's show. I'm Mark Mosley.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Don't forget to follow me on social media at Mark
Moseley on x, on Facebook, on Instagram, on youtubems e
L E y. Speaking of China, you know we love
the Babylon b on this show. We love this ten
undeniable reasons Communist China is way better than America. Glory
(09:32):
to glorious Leader, President g If you listen to the
news media, it's clear that America has become the most
horrible and oppressive country in the world, which means people
should be looking for a better place to live, like
communist China. The Babylon Bee has compiled the following list
of examples of how China is way better than living
(09:53):
in America. One zero global pandemic started in the last
four years. Wow, while four years in a row is impressive.
Two Total freedom of speech. From within your four x
four confinement cell, you can literally say anything you want
in there very generous. Three there are a million places
(10:15):
to learn cong fu. Everyone in China is a martial
arts master. Four The government will harvest all your extra
unnecessary organs for free convenient.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Five.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Gay characters are all edited out of movies the way
God intended it, quoting the Babylon b Here. Six the
president is the most handsome fellow in the world and
does not look anything like Winnie the Pooh. He looks
like Robert Redford, only even more handsome, and he's so
so smart. Trump must be very jealous. Seven nobody has
(10:52):
to deal with the hassle of elections. Just watch the
state run news to find out who your new leaders are.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Much more relaxing. Eight they have gongs. You bang on
them and they make a huge noise. Do you have
a gong? Didn't think so.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
Nine Slave labor keeps production costs super low as long
as you're okay being the slave. And ten authentic Chinese
food available to everyone with a social credit score of
at least five thousand. Don't act like the reasons listed above.
Don't have you packing your bags to move to China.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
It's Mark Moseley's show.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Follow Mark on x Instagram and Facebook at Mark Moseley
and subscribe for new episodes weekly on your favorite podcast platform.
Speaker 8 (11:56):
And now shallow thoughts by al Ibrul. When Democrats jerry mander,
it's to better represent their constituency. When Republican's jerry mander,
it's an evil power grab and a threat to our republic,
I mean democracy.
Speaker 6 (12:19):
Well, Donald Trump kicked it up a notch bam by
federalizing the police force in d C. Of course the
media is losing their minds.
Speaker 9 (12:28):
I should note that the most violent moment in recent
history in DC was January sixth, and it was an
attack on the United States Capital by a lot of
people who are doing it in the name of Donald Trump.
Speaker 6 (12:42):
Ah, yes, January sixth. January sixth, let's dust that old
chestnut off Gretchen.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
Stop trying to make fetch happen.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's not going to happen.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
And of course, the people in DC, they don't want
a savior. They don't want to be saved.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
Oh City, Free DC, Free DC.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
They don't want to be saved. Please don't save us
from the criminals. We want barabbas. Give us barabbas, Give
us barabbas. It is your message. No, we don't want
help in reducing crime. Here's why I'm gonna tell you
why the left is so mad about this. It's just
one more example of because what Democrats do is they say,
(13:33):
give us power and we'll fix the problem. Okay, Republicans
do it too, but it never got done. But the
minute Trump says, Okay, I'll do it, now, everybody's mad.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
We're just gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
We're just gonna go in there and we're gonna clean
up the city of DC.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
And you're not gonna believe it. It's gonna be so beautiful.
It's gonna be so much better. Meanwhile, over on CNN,
they were deriding actor Dean Kane, who decided he was
going to join ICE.
Speaker 10 (14:04):
There's a there's a massive amount of recruitment going on
because they now have a huge amount of money to
hire new Ice.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
In the Superman community.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
And so that's Dean.
Speaker 10 (14:12):
But I'm just telling you he's inactively going to be
an honorary share.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Well will he?
Speaker 10 (14:16):
But heading someone like that out touting it, talking about, hey,
this is a this is a thing you can do
for your government, This is public service. It's going to
help them recruit and they have a bunch of people
to recruit.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Yeah, it's not ninety five.
Speaker 10 (14:28):
Nobody gives a sam hell with Dean Kative, you don't
be a conservative community.
Speaker 7 (14:33):
Dean fifty thousand, that's what That's what got.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Deg off the worked in a while. All right, let
me just stop you right there.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
Do you know how many projects Dean was acted in
in twenty twenty four seventeen? He is fifteen projects currently
in production. The consensus on his net worth seems to
be that he's worth about ten million dollars, which to
left is more than anyone needs, right, guys, Right, So, no,
(15:05):
Dean Kane does not need the ice agent job. He
probably needs to pay his fair share. If anything, I
don't like when the left does this with actors having
worked in show business a little bit myself a little bit.
But in show business people have career arcs, and look,
sometimes you're on top of the world and you've got
(15:27):
your own network TV show that you're starring in, and
then sometimes you don't. But that doesn't take away your
body of work, that doesn't take away the Emmys on
the shelf. Personally, I will likely never top two thousand
and four. That was the year that Mulan two came out,
which was a culmination of a lifelong dream for me
(15:48):
to be associated with Walt Disney, who was my childhood
hero and as a kid, I just I dreamed about
being connected to him in some way and then it
happened when I got to do Mulan too. That was
also the year that Shrek two came out, and I
had two small parts in that movie, which got me
on the residual train for that movie, which was massive.
(16:14):
But yes, careers have arcs. Elton John is quoted as saying, yes,
my days on pop radio are over. And I know that,
and I accept it, and I'm not unhappy about it.
Although a couple of years ago he had like two
hits in a row, one of them with Britney Spears,
and he also said something to the effect of you
(16:35):
may not be topping the charts, but if you've got
a body of work that people love, they will come
out and see you perform all the old songs. So,
you know, pity poor Elton John. I guess he's just
a loser, right, So.
Speaker 5 (16:49):
You know, layoff Dean Kine.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
And now on Mark Mosley Show, it's time for Church
Chat with Matt Well as NAT's bashaw.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
That's an eighties reference.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
Which you won't get me apparently not being a young
man in your twenties. From yes, Dana Carvey go to
church lady. Well, is that spashal who put that idea
in your head?
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Could it have been? Oh, I don't know, say that
was the big running joke that they had on that show.
Any actually had like taste, they had, they had good,
good writers. It pretty much ended with Will Ferrell and
that was a we can we can agree on that. Okay.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
So this is a segment where you and I, who
are father and son, were of the same denomination. We're
both believers, yes, but we don't necessarily agree on everything.
For example, I think in the past you and I
have had disagreements about Cessatianism. Yes, for for people that
don't know what that means, what that word means, it
is the idea that that miracles were pretty much a
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first century thing because the Holy Spirit needed to work
in bold ways to get the church off the ground.
And now the concept is among many believers today.
Speaker 5 (18:04):
You can pick it up from there that.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
Yeah, I would say that cessationism the big idea is
that the sign gifts that are talked about in a
number of the Pauline epistles, namely speaking in Tongues, the
Gift of Healing, Gift of prophecy. They were issues that
were key within the church because people needed to see
the working of the Holy Spirit in order to validate
(18:28):
the message of the apostles. I think that overwhelmingly, at
least within the younger generations right now, the charismatic movement,
it's probably at its highest that it's been because it
drives off of the emotional value of worship. And so
one of the big things is that a lot of
young people want that rush, they want that feeling, they
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want excitement. They feel that their lives are likely very
dull because of the repetitiveness of every day checking your phone,
you know, doom scrolling, all that stuff. So when you've
got this movement that emphasizes the working of the Holy
Spirit and high stakes emotion, that's naturally going to draw
a crowd. However, I will say that I think that
there is a pendulum swing in the other direction that
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a lot of people are looking at non denominational Christianity.
I think that Orthodoxy Catholicism are experiencing a surge because
of people like Donald Trump, people that are in government
right now that are bolstering for traditional values, the rise
of the Western political mindset that is pushing back into
(19:34):
the spotlight things like Catholicism and Orthodox practice.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
So which brings us to the first thing that I
wanted to talk about, Yes, and that is this post
that Pete Hegseth posted that had a lot of people
on the far left freaking out because, you know, one
of the boogeymen that they always see is that we're
going to we're going to have like we're just one
strong man leader away from having some kind of theotocracy.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Yeah, you know where.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
You know, it's the Handmaid's Tale, and you know, women
are all subjugated and and it's you know, it's it's
this Christian authoritarian rule for America. And so they see
that hiding around every corner. And so when Pete Hegseth
posted what he did.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Yeah, so you're talking specifically about that Doug Wilson piece.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Right, Doug Wilson is his name. Yeah, so dig into
the details. They talked to one of his congregants who
was a man and his wife, and the woman was like, yes,
I totally submit to my husband.
Speaker 7 (20:33):
Yeah, The biggest problem with CNN, naturally, is that they're
just going to straw man everything. Yeah, and they're going
to do the over generalization fallacy of you.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Know, well, this must be all Christians. Yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
They Christian men secretly want to subjugate their wives.
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Right if they can, if they can propagate this caricaturized
version of what Christianity actually is, then they can convince
the masses overwhelmingly that it is an immediate threat that
needs to be neutralized, that it is the exact opposite
of what the Bible actually calls the Christian faith and
(21:09):
modern Christian living.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Like it's so, I mean, look yeah.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
Just just in our very own household under this roof. Yeah,
you know your mom, is she gonna allow me.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
To subjugate her? No? No, no, Well, now.
Speaker 6 (21:24):
Look there are women out there that that will that
are cool with this.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Yeah, but that's because.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
That's their mindset. They want to let their husband lead
and they want to follow.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Right.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
But that doesn't also mean that there aren't times where
she does recognize that that the decision, the final decision
you make on something, or even just an opinion that
you might have on something is blatantly like more, it
makes more sense to go with that thing. So I
think that naturally the way in which husbands and wives
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are rooted. When when you understand the strife that's going
on within the realm of a marriage, Satan wants to
attack the family. He wants to go after the family dynamic.
He wants to go after the covenant of marriage because
it is one of the first things that God creates
outside of the natural creation itself, outside of the cosmos
and outside of the earth and everything in it. He
creates man, and then from man he creates woman, and
(22:19):
then he creates the covenant of marriage.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
And he knows that it's the very glue that holds
all of civilization together. Correct.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Without it, you have complete chaos, You have everybody doing
whatever they feel like at any point in time. The
covenant of marriage is for most people, at least.
Speaker 5 (22:34):
My age, they think it's a trap.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
They think it is something that, oh, I have to
commit to one person for the rest of my life
and I never get to enjoy the pleasures of sex
outside of marriage and adultery and all these different fornication,
especially with the rapid rise of pornography, I mean, just
all of these things are in tension with each other,
(22:57):
and I think that Satan is going to do whatever
he can and is succeeding, at least from our vantage
point in the West, to completely emasculate the man and
neutralize him, get him into such a slave mindset when
it comes to the pleasures of the flesh that he
(23:19):
has no idea that he's been completely neutralized and almost
neutered in a sense. I mean, you look at most
men today. Not only do you see a correlation between,
for example, the rapid rise and consumption of pornography and
the manner in which not only men treat women but
also then behave in society. There are guys who just
(23:42):
overwhelmingly will do whatever it is they feel like because
they don't feel like they have any consequences to their actions.
And that's part of the problem. When you look at something,
for example, like pornography, the overwhelming thing is I can
take whoever is in this imagery, whoever is in these videos,
and use them as an object, and there's nobody who's
going to come around and actually tell you know that's wrong.
Speaker 6 (24:05):
So what I want to put a fine point on
to go back to, like the I think the original
concern or question that people listening might have is that
this pastor that Hegsath is referring to, do you see
something like this as a movement. If it is a movement,
I mean obviously we as Christians to say, well, it's
(24:27):
not an unhealthy movement, because what we do kind of
need to do, I think in our society, in Western
culture is kind of restore the balance of man and
woman and say there are clearly defined roles, and those
things worked for thousands of years, and now that we're
in this era where we've upended all of that, We've
(24:50):
upended gender roles, and we've upended the man's role in
society and the woman's role in society and their roles
in marriage and their roles in a family. Now all
of a sudden, look, we have chaos everywhere. Yeah, So
a couple of things.
Speaker 7 (25:04):
First of all, I think probably one of the best
resources that you could get your hands on if you
want to learn more about the biblical principles of the
roles of men and women within Christianity or more specifically
in the Church, is called Men and Women in the
Church by Kevin Deyung.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
I've read through it.
Speaker 7 (25:19):
It's a short biblical practical introduction on the concept of
you know, complementarianism and egalitarianism, all that stuff like how
how do we view the roles between men and women?
What I will say about Doug Wilson is that there's
a lot of things that I that I disagree with
him on regard.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
Okay, and I do too, Yeah, I do too.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
I think that I think part of the biggest problem
with and this is this is something that I might
take a minority view on as compared to most evangelical
Christians in America today, is that this hyper fixation on
what I can only call prophetic dispensational Christian nationalism, if
(25:59):
you know, if you can name it anything, is that
we have on both sides, on both the left and
on the right, have glorified people to a status of
Messiah that they cannot fulfill. And the problem is that
both sides have no problem assuming that role, failing miserably
at it, and then blaming the other side for their failures.
For example, I think that way too many people have
(26:20):
a problem pointing out no wrong whatsoever with people like
Joe Biden, Barack Obama, Kamala Harris. But what I will say, though,
is that there are people on the right who also
do the same thing where they say, oh, well Trump
can do no wrong. No, I disagree. I think that
he is a I think he is a very very
flawed human being, just like I think Joe Biden is
a flawed human being. Same thing with Barack Obama, Kamala Harris.
(26:42):
And this has nothing to do with you know, gender
roles or skin color.
Speaker 5 (26:46):
Sin is sin.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
And I think that when you look at a guy,
and I'm getting to a point here, when you look
at a guy like Doug Wilson, one of the views
that he holds his postmillennialism. Part of the problem with
postmillennialism is that.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
It heavily.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
The Church playing a crucial role in introducing Christ to
the rest of the world. It assumes that everything is
going to get better as time goes on, that the
majority of the world, that the nations will come to Christ.
And though we want that, but I don't think the
Bible ever says that, Well, there are there are places,
obviously where people have credible enough information to try and
(27:22):
make an argument for it. What my dilemma is is
that I'm looking around outside of the West, people are
dying for the faithful.
Speaker 6 (27:29):
O Boko Haram and isis. Yeah, and in places like Nigeria,
oh my gosh, Sri Lanka, all Tibet, and we think
in the West, because it's not happening here.
Speaker 5 (27:38):
It's not happening. Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:40):
Meanwhile, people are getting their heads cut off because simply
because they believe in Jesus. So listen, I want to
pivot to because you kind of gave me an opening
a couple of minutes ago. Sure, this former Megachurch youth
pastor John Pavlovitz. Now, I've been aware of this guy
for a while. He's a very anti Trump liberal social
(28:02):
media person. I suspect he may be one of those
folks that the Democrat Party the DNC has on their
payroll that they pay him to post stuff. On August second,
on his sub stack, went really out there with saying
that he believes it's impossible to be a good person
and support Trump. He says some really really interesting things.
(28:26):
He says this president is not a good human being,
and so then he says that anyone who is defending him,
applauding him, justifying him, celebrating him probably is also a
terrible human being quote. At this point, the only reason
left to support a man like this is that he
reflects your hateful heart. He shares your contempt people of color,
(28:49):
your hostility towards outsiders, your toxic misogyny, your ignorant bigotry,
and your feelings of supremacy. He says things you believe
and hurts the people you want to hurt. I really
think he ought to be working kid's birthday parties because
he paints quite a broad caricature.
Speaker 5 (29:07):
The Left likes to do stuff like this.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
They like to take certain qualities that they've decided that
if you think this, then you must also be ABC
and D and just go ahead and label you with it.
So like, just to be clear, I have a problem
with a lot of stuff when it comes to Donald Trump.
He is not my savior. No, he is not America's messiah.
(29:32):
Please don't look at him like that. Guys, we can't
just throw everything in his lap and think President Trump
will fix this country. Okay, we have to do the
work too. He is a deeply flawed human being. I've
said before on this podcast. The man paid a porn
star hush money to say I didn't have sex with
(29:52):
you when my wife was pregnant, a deeply, deeply flawed
human being. But I always say, Jesus ain't running for
pre resident. And we unrepentant sinners always have to pick
between two unrepentant sinners every single election cycle. So what
you're gonna do? I had to either pick Donald Trump
(30:12):
or Kamala Harris is John Pavlovitz suggesting that Kamala Harris
is you know that she's got a golden, flaming chariot
waiting outside to take her straight to heaven, right, because
she's no saint either.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Elijah right, who, by the way, in the Bible, was
a very deeply flawed human being, thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
Wanted to take his own life, as was Moses Dave. Yes.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
One of the problems I think that that and and
this is it falls on deaf ears with John Pavlovitz
that first of all, I'm not I'm not honestly trying
to dog on somebody, but I think it's very hilarious
when your most credible thing is that you're a former
youth pastor. Okay, right, Like and and this is coming
from a guy who does mega church, yeah, mega church
(31:02):
youth pastor, which I mean this is coming from a
guy who teaches youth ministry every week. Not that I'm
not proud of what I do, but to be you
got to be your what in your sixties? John Pavlovitz
almost sixty years old?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
I'm looking at his Wikipedia.
Speaker 7 (31:17):
He was born in nineteen sixty nine, so.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
He's fifty six.
Speaker 7 (31:20):
That for that to be the only thing that you
are known for outside of your your liberalism on social media.
Speaker 5 (31:25):
It's kind of sad.
Speaker 7 (31:26):
Yeah, it's a little sad because it shows that he
wasn't really able to go farther into the meat and
potatoes than that of just simply presenting the Gospel to
a bunch of kids. Now, granted they need to hear it.
But here's a problem that I have. He assumes that
you can't be both quote, a good person and a
Trump supporter. He should know better than anybody else, especially
(31:47):
as a person who teaches the scriptures. The Romans three
twenty three says that all have fallen short of the
glory of God and our deserving of death.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
That there is.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
None good, no not one. That everybody does what is
good in his own sight.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
It's not a sliding scale.
Speaker 7 (32:03):
It's not it's it's there is d or be Yeah,
there is light or dark, right, there is there is
no gray area in the Kingdom of Heaven. It is
that everybody has fallen short of the standard, and is
everybody classified a sinner. It is only when God's grace
reaches down into the pits of your despair, of your depravity,
and he pulls you out in his kindness and his
(32:25):
mercy and his sovereign grace, that you are put into
this separate category, not of being better than other people,
but simply having come to the conclusion that Christ is Lord,
that he's been resurrected from the dead, that he was
crucified for your sins, and you now inherit the blessings
and the grace, and you are adopted into the family
of God. There is still a tention, though, of you
(32:46):
still being a sinner, and we know this because of
Romans six and seven. There is a tension. You're both
a sinner and a saint at the same time. And
John Pavlovitch should know this better than anybody. Well, so
for him to for him to take this, this this
this idea that well, you could be a good person.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
No, you can't.
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Outside of christ.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
You can know you're absolutely right. That just hit me
in the face. He's saying, you can't be a Trump
supporter and be a quote good person.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Here's the thing from there.
Speaker 6 (33:13):
Is no one good and now I get it. I
get what you're saying from the perspective point is mood.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Let's go to the other side of the of the
political scale. If you look at the left, especially if
you're going to be a youth pastor, you're gonna want
to teach from a pro life stance. I cannot, in
good conscience go and vote for somebody like Kamala Harris,
not because she's a woman, but because she is fundamentally
pro choice.
Speaker 5 (33:36):
She is pro abortion.
Speaker 7 (33:37):
You cannot be a good person and vote for and support.
Speaker 6 (33:41):
So you can play the same game that John Pappa
can play, the same exact game. Yeah, just to put
a button on what you said, John Pavlovich, there is
no one good, no, not one.
Speaker 5 (33:54):
So you're right and wrong at the same time. Buddy. Yeah, Yeah,
thank Matt, thank you so much much. We got to
do this again. What is your podcast?
Speaker 7 (34:03):
Yeah, I have a podcast that's available on Spotify, soon
to be on Apple Music and other platforms as well,
it's also available on my YouTube. You can find that
Matt Moseley. Last name is spelled ms E L E Y,
same as this host right here. It's a podcast called
Led by the Shepherd. It is about the fact that
you know, this culture has lost its way and the
Shepherd's voice is clear and so I talk about a
(34:24):
number of subjects. It's primarily geared at gen z and millennials,
but it's really for any age and anybody who will listen.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Good Man, all right, thank you so much, thank you.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
It's Mark Moseley's show. And now a Global Warming Minute
with Al Gore.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Al Gore, here in the forests of Cameroon in Africa,
where it's so hot, your global warmifying is causing dire
consequences for our animal friends. That's right. Every time you
crank up your hummer, another cute little spider monkey dies.
We've got to save these animals from climate change, and
if you won't do it, I will. Right now, I'm
(35:05):
disguised as an African lowland gorilla. I'm standing about one
hundred feet from a group of these gentle giants, several
females and rather large male, say about four hundred and
fifty pounds.
Speaker 8 (35:15):
He's a big fellow.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
But that little one there, the baby, he's the one
I'm here to say by luring him away into a
truck and taking him to live with me in my
lovely air conditioned mansion. Come here, little one, it's okay.
I'm just a gorilla like you, a gorilla who can talk.
Come with me out for I mean, friendly stranger gorilla
(35:37):
who will save you from global warming. And when the
male is here, he's gonna want to fight me, and
I'll probably be very badly injured. He's just sniffing me
and stroking my fur. Why does my costume have the
same markings as the female gorillas?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Oh god, this has been a global warming minute with
Al Gore.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I told you I got dozens of those. I could
do this all day. It's Mark Mosley's show. I'm Mark
Mosley and thank you for listening. Please follow me on
social media at Mark Mosley on all platforms ex Facebook, Instagram, YouTube.
You can find this show there. You can also find
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(36:27):
a review, whatever you can, we greatly appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (36:32):
It's time to wrap up the show, as we always do.
With our Dufus of the Week.
Speaker 6 (36:39):
Adam Garnett was busted running a drug ring in Blackpool
in the UK because someone involved with his gang snitched
Adam and several others and his gang, in fact, fifteen
people in all were arrested with the help of the snitch,
who is affectionately known simply as Mango. Their drug operation
(37:01):
was initially revealed when a sweep of Adam's cell that's right,
he was already in jail, revealed that he had cell
phones and Wi Fi routers. Yeah, he was pretty much
running his illegal activities from prison like Denzel in American Gangster.
The cell phones led police to the homes of several
of Adam's gang, including one Shannon Hilton, where Mango also lived.
(37:25):
There they found lots of drugs, including heroin and crack cocaine,
plus lots of cash, and it was when they looked
at videos on Shannon's phone that's where they found videos
of Mango playing with piles of drug money and saying
the phrase two for twenty five, which is drug slang joy.
(37:47):
To make it worse, the video show Shannon and the
gang teaching Mango to say two for twenty five in
front of children in the home. Mango was a snitch.
She can't really get mad at Mango. You see, Mango
is a parrot. The parrot was taught to say two
for twenty five and police used Mango's videos, like the
(38:10):
ones of him playing in piles of drug money to
help secure convictions for Shannon Adam and the rest of
the gang. It's the old age, old cautionary tale. Be
careful what you teach your parrot to say. And no,
Mango has not been charged with any crime. But then again,
if he were, he'd be charged as a mina.
Speaker 5 (38:33):
Come on, that is gold baby. Where are you going?
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (38:40):
Come on, come, don't believe.
Speaker 6 (38:44):
Well that was uncalled for. All right, I'm Mark Mosley.
Will be back next time. Until then, may God bless
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