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Speaker 1 (00:37):
Welcome to Master in the Art of Real Estate. I'm
your host, Debbie Demaggio, and we are here today with
someone from down under, Susie Anderson Home. She is coming
to us from Australia. And I first discovered Susie through
YouTube on her beautiful YouTube channel during COVID. I got
it during COVID. I was obsessed with YouTube and I
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got very obsessed with her beautiful design aesthetic. So please
welcome Susie Anderson. Hi, Susie, how are you? Good morning?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Hello?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What time is it there?
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Thank you?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Is it is it Saturday morning?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
So that I said, good.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Doctor, Yes, it's Saturday morning. Well, thank you for getting
up early on a Saturday to be with us. I'm
just thrilled that you agreed to be on the show.
And I have so many questions. So I am sticking
to a script because I don't know if we'll get
through it all. But I have so many fun questions
to ask you. So let's introduce you, all right. Susan
Anderson is the owner an interior stylist behind Susie Anderson Home,
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a lifestyle emporium specializing in contemporary housewares, homewares, furniture, lighting, decor,
art and antiques. Co owning the business with her partner
David Condon, Susie brings a deep understanding of the psychology
of home, helping clients create spaces that truly feel personal
and inviting. At the heart of her approach is her
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signature five l's of styling, lighting, layering, luster, living, energy
and loved items, combined with carefully sourced unique pieces from
around the world. By blending these elements with the client's
own meaningful detail, Susie helps transform houses into personal havens
that reflect individuals stories and lifestyles. With three stores in moss,
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Vail and Barrel, New South Wales, Australia, and a strong
online presence, including a successful YouTube channel, Susie brings together
classic European elegance, relaxed country charm, and coastal aesthetics to
inspire and delight. Susie strongly believes that when it comes
to creating a home to love, the beauty is in
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the detail. I just love it. Welcome, welcome again and
so excited to have you here.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Thank you, dive, thank you, welch.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
So let's die, okay. I liked whoever I'm interviewing. I
always want to hear about where they came from, how
they got to where they are now. Was it something
that you did right out of high school or college?
Was it or did it you stumble upon it later
in life by accident? So where did you grow up
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and how did you get to where you are today?
And design?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Okay, So I was born in Hong Kong. My parents
were working My father was working in advertising there, and
then we moved back to Australia when I was a toddler,
so not very long was I overseas, but we moved
back to Sydney and I grew up pretty much the
same school, same friends the whole way through to high school.
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But in the late where was it early eighties when
I finished high school, they didn't really sort of promote
a lot of jobs that were interest to me at
the time. It was like, well you could be this,
that and the other. It was quite limited and my
father was in advertising, so I just said, oh, that
sounds exciting. So I went and got a job in
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advertising and worked my way up into media buying and
then overseas and discovered another part of media and moved
over to the publishing side. So I ended up working
with some lovely fashion titles and women's titles, which was
very exciting as an early twenties girl. So I then
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got married and we did up homes. So that's really
how I entered into the interior space. My parents were
very creative when I was growing up, so they were
always restoring cars, cross stitching, sewing. There was always a
activity at home, and my mum styled the house beautifully
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and entertained you so well. I think it was that
time living overseas and they were well traveled, so they
incorporated a lot of their beautiful pieces from their travels
and it was a very neutral aesthetic. So I grew
up with a very calm palette, and that's how I
got into design, really by accident, but discovered.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
That was an absolute passion.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
I love it. Well, that's that's I was going to
ask you, what, So that's interesting. So your mom they
had a very neutral palette, because that was one of
the questions we'll get, Well, we can talk about it now.
Is there's the beautiful that I like, the calm aesthetic,
the neutral colors. So you grew up in that. So
you grew up in that sort of environment. So your
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mom seemed to be fast forward ahead in her design
aesthetic very.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Much, so I think that it allowed their pieces from
travel to really be the accent of the home. So
it was pretty much we lived in three homes as
I was growing up, and each of them had a
very calm, soft palette. But then they would introduce a
piece of art or sculpture from their trips and that
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became the color and the interest in those loved pieces
that I talk about that really make a house a home.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So well, I think really you learned that from your mond. Yeah,
from your mother and her the way, so even though
you didn't know you were going to do it later,
you were already being educated at it.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Throughout totally, totally. And I did love changing my room around.
I do remember that they say that I was extremely messy,
but I would go in spurts of being really tidy
and spend a weekend changing my room around, and that
was just such a great way to start a school week, going, well,
my bedrooms is in a different position, and it feels great,
and I'll bring in some flowers from the garden. And
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that was an earlier so I think Mum had a
lot to influence me on that.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Oh yeah, That's what I was going to ask, what
was what's the pal and what is the palette of
your home now today or is it changing?
Speaker 3 (07:00):
Probably changing with a bit of a little bit more color,
but I'd say that's through flowers and plants. So I'm
very big on I think COVID that was the start
of that, bringing a lot more greenery into the home
and whatever's seasonal bringing that in. But generally I'm still
committed to a pretty neutral palette and letting art add
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some color or textiles add some color, but then I
can change its season and that works for me.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I love that. So with that, well, that was one
of my questions was about plants, so bringing I like
a neutral palate too, and I do not have a
green thumb at all. So I have a couple of
plants that are in my house right now that are
actually have lived for quite some time. But can you
tell us two things? One is all of your styling
on your beautiful YouTube channel Susie Susie Anderson Home, so
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everyone knows thank you are you using a mix of
real and faux flowers? And what are your favorite real
and plants are flowers? So that lasts for someone who
might not have a green thumb.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
One of our Because I have retail stores, it's important
for me that in every space that there is living energy.
But because that's a lot of maintenance for my staff,
because one of the stores we have ten rooms, so
to keep the upkeep of fresh flowers, and the expense
of fresh flowers doesn't always work economically. So we will
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take a particular plant called Ruscus usc us ruscus, and
I buy that every single week from the flower market,
and that will last in some spaces. It's a cut
green leaf and it's beautiful, and I will have that
throughout the shop, throughout my home and it could last
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six months in a vas just refresh the water. But
into that I will put faux hydrangea branches or faux peonies,
or depends what the flower is of the season, but
you would be hard pressed to think that it wasn't real.
So I think that having that green energy throughout, so
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that is a particular particularly good one.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
Palm leaves also last quite a long time.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Sorry, are you mixing those the faux with the real
or is that separate?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yes, both both, but generally I can have a vase
with water with the ruscus. The fresh in it and
then put in three to five stems of a faux flower.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Okay, yes, okay, so that man, you went off one.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah. And I also and palms.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, there's a local palm here called burrowing palm, and
it's it's really tall reaching. It's beautiful and architectural. So
I'll put that into really tall vases. And that's a
beautiful way to fill a space and give height to
a room as well.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
And that's also long lasting. So and then within.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Fresh potted greenery like fiddle leaf, figs, other fern and
a lot of sun.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I just bought a fiddle a faux fiddle leaf, right.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
I also good for.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Property styling, yes, property styling, Yeah, I had one of
our listings, had a couple of them. It it was
kind of like func stui but it's it's she uses essence.
And there was a plant and I can't remember the
name it was anyway, she said, no, get that get
that plant out, and I guess she must have said
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a fiddle leaf for something. And she says, get that
plant out and get a different one. So I did,
and that house is now pending and closes next week.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Down.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah. And she also said to bring in some fresh
flowers and things and anyway, but I love I love
what you've said so far, and I do like all those,
especially the hydrangers and the uh, the fiddle leaf and
the palms. They're beautiful. So that is super helpful because
I was on your show, all your shows, a few
of your shows this morning, looking so okay, we got
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your bedroom. I have so many so where okay you
have I don't know, hundreds of beautiful YouTube videos. So
where do all those photographs come from? There are so many,
and they're all one is as just as nice as
the other. So are these homes that you've curated and
designed or do you pull from other places?
Speaker 3 (11:38):
We pulled, so probably fifty percent would be from either
our work, so within the stores or within my home,
and otherwise it'll be credited to other designers around the
world that will have the right estate in particular video.
So we always credit them because often, I would say
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fifty percent of our audience actually is in America. So
when they ask, oh, where can I get that sideboard
or I love that piece of art, we credit it
back to the designer so that they can make contact
with them, or we'll link them in the show notes
so that they can ask them specifically where they might
have got that particular piece.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Nice because I yeah, I was wondering because you're in
Australia and well I didn't know that before. I just
watched your show, but and then you did Hampton Style
in Southampton and the Hamptons of New York, So I
was wondering, you know where and do you sow? Where
is the territory you cover? Will you go to? I
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know you have the stores, but if someone wants to
hire you, how where are some places you've traveled to
to work with people?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Well, because I'm running the store, I pretty much stay
within New South Wales.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
I've done some remote work.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Online, but it's much better for me to be able
to go directly to the home, see the light, meet
the family. But remote can work as well if it
comes down to zoom calls or beautiful photos to be
able to work with a client. So yes, as far
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as visiting homes, it's within New South Wales, Okay.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Okay, So I'd imagine I'm visual, So would someone would
you get? Would someone give you a floor plan of
their home? And then would they have professional photos taken
so you can see their room, because I would think
you'd need more than just walking through a room with
an iPhone.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
Generally, a combination of both is good. I don't need
professional photos, just room shots from a few different angles
and video a walkthrough to pull it all together, to
look at scale and look at where the windows are and.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
Floor plans are helpful as well, but just photographs. I'm
very I don't know about you, but when you walk
in to see clients home that you're about to sell,
your eye quickly does an assessment of the space and
you can very much go, oh if we just tweak
that there. Because I do like working with what people
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have already and then incorporating other elements. I don't feel
that you need to erase everything unless he says, I
am over this, it's all.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Inherited, I'm ready to move on.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I like to incorporate things that they already have and
then just tweak it and add elements rather than.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Yeah, it's amazing. You can take something that you might
not love, but then the way you design it could
be or arrange it could just be, and then it
becomes your favorite piece. I love that we're going to
go to a quick commercial break, Right back with Susie Anderson.
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Welcome back to Mastering the Art of Real Estate. I'm
your host, Debbie Demaggio. We are here with Susie Anderson
from Australia. So, Susie, what so as a realtor, I'm
not designing for personally, I'm designing for the masses. I
want to bring in as many people as I can
to the home, So I want to make it neutral
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so they can envision if they have bright art or
if they have, you know, whatever their style and taste is.
So I always do a whole room in white. Dove
the white to make it bright, to reflect light. Is
there any color in I guess in let's talk about
for staging a home. What color would you recommend and
for someone to live in a home. Obviously we don't
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need to go crazy on that, but if there's a
neutral color that you like for someone who's living in
a home, and then the staging color would you right?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I also do like a white.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
There's a white that I use a lot which is
from a company called Deluxe, and it's called a little
White because it's a white that doesn't throw yellow, doesn't
go to cool and blue. It just has a lovely
warmth and looks great with all types of timbers. And
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if I was living recommending for a color to work
with in a home, I still think that as a
permanent color, but then you might have some accents in
a room that might be a den that could be
a darker color like lind Seed, which is a putty
gray color which adds a bit of depth and interest. Wallpaper.
I'm quite mad on wallpaper as well, because really, if
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you get sick of it, you can say with paint
you can transform it. But I think to create a
mood and an atmosphere, wallpaper is fabulous. But I would
commit to that more if I was living in the
space rather than styling it to sell. So I do
agree that a newtual drop when you're selling works well,
and it gives you that continuity throughout each space and
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then just allow your furnishings and art to add the
color rather than suddenly we're in the blue room and
then we're in the red room and it's just discombobulating.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
I think, right, it's too Yes, that's great. Now I'm
meeting with a client she out today later and she
was she said, oh, I sent her a photo of
what I like to use. I always like to use
white for all those reasons, and she's like, well, wasn't
that boring? So I thought, well, I'm going to I'm
going to quote you instead of quoting myself white.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Yes, yes, I think for selling, I think you want to.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
We've got an apartment at the moment, we're wondering whether
to sell or not, and I've got this wallpaper I've
been saving, thinking, oh it woul looks so good. It's
a beautiful scenic print. But it's a commitment. And some
people would love it because it's it's so evocative, and
others would go, oh, I love that place, but it's
just got that wallpaper on it. I can't see past it.
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And even though it's a quick fit, some people they
don't know that, and they just see I don't like
that wallpaper or that color. Instead of going you and
I would walk into a space and go, oh the
colors are crazy.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
But I painted out look at the shape, and.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
So I think, if you're free painting to sell, keep
it neutral.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
Right, Yeah, yeah, wallpaper is fun and I love that
you don't have to commit to it. And I'm thinking
of doing our powder room. But there are so many choices,
so I'm stumped on what to do. But so, how
did you start your YouTube channel? Who executes it? Is
so beautiful? Do you have a big team? Give us
a little bit of a process of it, because it
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is stunning.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay, So that came about when you discovered it during lockdown,
because we had a website, but it wasn't particularly online
here wasn't as mad as it is now, and so
we had a functional website, but it wasn't representative of
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our how our stories. So my daughter had just beenished UNI.
She studied psychology, and her partner also and they were
just saying.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
Really, Susie should do a bit more. We've got a
bit of time now.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
So they created the background to our website, and then
they understood the psychology of purchasing and having a relationship
with customers, and it goes beyond just a static website.
You really need to have movement and you need to
have voice. And so my daughter created the first YouTube
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and said, I've created this and I've just put it
out there as so let's see how it goes. And
then I loved it, and I just loved the combination
of music and education and inspiration, and so I said,
keep going, keep going, And she now works with us
full time and we work every second week. We physically
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get together. She lives in Sydney and I live in
the country, and that has been the evolution of that.
And just we get together and plan the topics for
the year. We ask our viewers what would you like
to see more of? And then we create a schedule
and come up with content. So she'll come down to
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the store and take lots of photos and video footage.
And I'm trying to get better at being in front
of the camera. You see me sneaking, putting a vase
in or but I do want to connect with my audience,
so I have to get better at being in front
of the But generally we come together like that and
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then she creates a script and I modify and personalize
it and then come to photos. So that's that's how
that works. Every second Friday we have the video.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
It's well, it's a big tack it you really your
brand comes across. You're so warm. You have such a nice,
soothing voice. So whatever time of day you're going to
listen to it or watch your show, it's your voice.
Is just so soothing and you just feel so welcoming.
And I know about I don't like to get in
front of the camera like that either, talking to a camera,
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but it works for you, and yes, it'll be great
when you do get in front of the camera. But
it really works because you're watching this. I mean, there's
so so many beautiful rooms and it's not like you're
stuck on one for you know, you go through it
not fast but not slow, not too slow. So you
just get so much in one episode. So I highly
recommend it.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
And that's very much.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's fun to know the journey because I was was
so overwhelming, like how do you do this? So you
do have and it really makes sense with all the things,
the voice and the pattern and the music, it all
goes together. So tell your daughter it's brilliant. And her
partner thank you, thank you. I will You're welcome. So
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just some words today as I was watching this morning,
tell us what functional beauty is.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Functional beauty is.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
I like to create homes that are livable, so you
have to understand who lives there, how do you want
to feel in a space. It's very important that you
don't just have everything looking beautiful, but you can't put
a coffee cup down. You can't put I have a
customer at the moment that I'm working with their family
to create a beautiful home, and they've got a lovely
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lounge room, but nowhere to put your feet. So he's
putting his feet on things that his wife doesn't want
him to. I'm going, but let's find a space because
it's natural.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
We all do.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
We've got coffee cat tables in front of our lounge.
It's not a hygienic, but we end up putting our
feet on it. So it's having that function and beauty.
So having the right pieces where you feel like you
can come in people feel welcomed and not feeling like
you're in a museum or a space that you can't touch.
You look at who lives there, how do you want
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it to feel? Because some people do live that way
that they're very minimal and precise and they it functions
for them, where others have three teenagers and a dog
or grandchildren, and so you have to find a way
that you can balance practicality and beauty. So that might
be the textures you use, it might be the fabrics
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you use on sofas. They might be slip covered so
that you have a spare set so it is functional.
But you could go, oh, I love the way my
space looks, but I'm not afraid when people come over
all or you know, it's easy to tie you because
I've got lots of storage facilities, put away, bring out.
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It's balancing that function and beauty. I've been mindful there.
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And then so when we have two kitties now, and
the kitties have ruined quite a few of our things,
is there a way to live with cats? Do you know?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Deb We lost our dog two years ago and our
cat six months ago, and it's the first time, oh
for thirty five years that I haven't had pets in
the home. And I know that we will, but we're
living in this little moment of saying, this is our
go go years where if we want to stay in
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extra night somewhere or we want to jump on a
plane and go somewhere, we don't have to coordinate the animals.
But I miss having animals in the home terribly. The
one thing that I don't miss is hair, dog hair,
cat hair, and the scratching of the corner of a.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
New armchair or got very good at having.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Throws, lots of throws rolled up in a basket, or
you know that we would have always on the lounge
to drape over the lounge, and you try to have
designated areas, but that's really not functional. I think in
some ways you have to have a really good vacuum.
Maybe if you can afford a cleaner to come through
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and do a deep clean once a month, but I
would vacuum every day because I don't like seeing the
time weeks of dogs.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You know, we're black a lot because you don't want
the hair to go on you.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
But I think that's what makes a home is those
little personalities and the small sacrifice for the joy. But
I do think that having a parlor throws putting you
onto your lounges and armchairs and to your bed and wherever.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
And a good vacuum all right, exactly. Yes, our Dyson
is our best friend.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
So good, so quick. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So, on a similar topic of functional beauty, I was
watching something this morning. Explain what you mean your home's moods?
You said, right down the rooms in your house and
how you want them to feel entryway, your exercise room,
your living room, dining room, elaborating on that.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Yes, well, this comes from more recently.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
I think.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
In that particular video we quoted Steve Cordoni, who is
a fabulous Australian designer and he's just released a book,
Moments at Home, and in that instead of just having
the topics of his book the entryway, the dining room,
he would say for the dining room, celebrate.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Or the entry welcome.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
So it's really standing back and thinking, Okay, if I've
got to study, how do I want that room to feel.
So it might be the place that you go and
you say knowledge, or you might say inspiration, or you
might say quiet because you want to have one room.
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It might be your craft room, so you go create.
So you really start with how do you want to
use that space? And if you give it a titol
like that, it's already setting up for that feeling of oh,
this is my little haven. I'm going to come in
and I'm going to when I'm in this space, it's
my time. How do I want to decorate it to
feel like it's got my personality.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
The bedroom might be you might be sharing, or.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
It might be calm or so therefore you set up
a calm palette you set up beautiful sense, you set up,
you know, a.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Sound system so you can have music.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
So you start with the vision and then follows the application.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
I love that. I love that the way you described
that that was very cool. I was right in a way,
so I was. There are some little pointers that I like,
So I took I meant to text you this morning.
But so I loved what you were talking about rug placement.
I know there's all people always have a different opinion
about where to place a rug. So let's talk about
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so I have in my dining room. I do not
have a rug right now. I love seagrass, and I
love a neutral palette. But I also love pops of
pink for my own home, not for selling a home. So,
but I want to get a rug for my dining room.
So does I want to know the layout? Because I
get stumped with chairs if you pull out the chairs,
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so are you now filling the whole room? So let's
talk about a dining room table and chairs.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
Yes, So if you're a rectangle rectangular dining table, yes, yes, okay,
So for me, the type of material one is quite
important because if you are bringing chairs in and out,
how will that wear and tear on that particular material.
If you have pets and children or anybody that's sort
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of more likely to spill, you want to think is
it cleanable? So the type of material is important, and
will chairs sit comfortably on it looks beautiful in a
photo to see really shaggy sort of carpet under a
dining table, but a bit of a cleaning nightmare, and
also getting chairs comfortably in and out. So the material,
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you want to allow enough space? Maybe I mean I'm
in centimeters. I'm not sure you're in inches.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I think.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Okay, you want to allow enough space to come up
the chair on the rug and when you're moving it out.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So let's say.
Speaker 3 (29:44):
Seventy centimeters sixty centimeters, which I think is about twenty
five to thirty inches.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Would that be about right? I'm sorry, I'm not too sure.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So visually, so the chair is tucked in when you
take it out, how much space should be? So is
that when you take the chair move the chair out
to you know you're moving the chair out more room there?
Is it still on the whole carpet?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
It can be. It depends on the size of the
space in your room.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
A lot of rooms don't have that generosity of space
to be able to be the rug and the table
and the chairs all on the rug. When you allow
for that getting in and out of the space, if
you can, that's great, but at least the front legs
and so the seat is on. So if you have
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to move it back but the front legs are still
on the rug, I think that's ideal. But you don't
want todjust the legs of the table or on it
and the chairs are all sticking out, because really there's
no point. So the rug can be used to zone
your your dining space. So it is lovely if you've
got that extra area that can at least have the
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the seat and the front legs.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
On the Okay, yeah, I've always been wondering how is
it really supposed to be? So that is awesome. The
other question I have is about hanging drapes or lenen
shears or covering.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
So again I do like where you can hang the
rod close to the ceiling and allow for a longer drape.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
I think to have a.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Little bit of puddling on the floor is quite a
generous look, certainly not short from touching the floor. It's
really important that it definitely touches the floor when you're
hanging a curtain, but I do think if you can
raise that curtain rod above the architrave and give more
length of fabric, it's quite an elegant and draws the
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eye up, making the space feel a bit taller than
it possibly is. It's a bit hard sometimes in rental
because you don't want to take it out and drill
further up the wall. So sometimes you've got restrictions like that.
But if possible, allowing a higher drape and definitely some
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puddling on the floor.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
And so if you're let's say you're the top of
your window ends here, it's okay to go all the
way up, even that much higher?
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It is okay, Yes, it is, yeah, But again it's
within different circumstances.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
If you.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Have an extremely high ceiling, you may not want to
go all the way up. If your window is down,
it's down to scale. But certainly you don't have to
have it just a couple of inches above the window.
I think if you can allow it to be grander,
and if that's the feel that you want, I do
like it to be quite a way above the window,
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closer to the ceiling for that sense of drawing your
eye up and making the space feel more lofty than.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Potentially it is. And then would you it seemed like,
would puddling be something for more traditional and if you're
more modern, no puddling or are you always supposed to
do a little puddle No, Well.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
As long as it's touching the floor, you don't want
to see. You don't want to think, oh, this is practical.
I'll have the curtain up from the floor because I
can clean better. It's just no rested air or something
while you're vacuuming, but touching the floor.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Personally, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Man of curtains that some end up somewhere halfway up
the wall just because they cover the window, and that's
you good bye at the shop. It's sort of like,
let's look at another alternative. But definitely, if you're having
a curtain that it touches the floor doesn't need to puddle,
that can tend to be a bit more of a
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luxurious or a European look where you've got beautiful linen
and it puddles on the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
The thing is with linen.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Sometimes it's great when you install it, but it will
give and stretch over time, so you don't want it
suddenly to have excess fabric on the floor. So just
measuring that correctly, but please let the curtain touch the floor.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
It's really important to me.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
I have very strict guidelines for things that I do too,
so I love that. So actually, let's go to commercial
break and then we're going to come back and we're
going to talk about the five l's of styling.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
We'll be right by great.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Welcome back to Mastering the Art of Real Estate. I'm
your host, Debbie Demagio. We are here with Susie Anderson,
home from Australia. So Susie tell us about the five
LS of design five els of.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Five LS of styling.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, five hours stiling. I love this.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
It's something that I use and I'm not using within
a space, but I wanted to teach our team at
work that if you quickly have to style up a
space in the store, these are the elements that pretty
much you can pull together a great vignette if you
have these five ls, which is lighting, loved items, luster, layered,
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Where are we lighting, luster, layered, loved and living in
which we talked about before. So we can look at
a space and we can walk into a room and
it might be the one thing that's missing.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
Is some living energy.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
So if we start with living energy, that is what
we were talking about before. It could be in the
form of pine cones, it could be coral. It's something
from the Earth that has a special energy about it.
So if you're creating a coffee table styling, that's one element.
You want to have something that is living and it
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also gives a freshness to the space, so that pop
green or beautiful rose will add a lovely living energy.
Then you're lighting. So we have different types of lighting.
A lot of times it's oh, yeah, we have lighting.
We have an overhead light that's very functional and very practical,
but it doesn't create a mood. And I'm all about
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walking into a space and having a feel about your
space that you're within. So some task lighting, some mood lighting.
So is there a candle light, is there a desk light?
Is there a beautiful light over your piece of art
to spotlight an architectural feature. So lighting is really important
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for ambiance and practicality. So it comes back to that
form and function. You need to be able to see
when you need to see. But flip off that overhead
light and have lamp lighting at that mid level, which
brings it into a more intimate space. And on a
coffee table that could be battery operated candles if you're
worried about children or pets. So just having that flickering
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flame is very, very inviting. And then we have loved items,
which is what I talked about before with my past,
with my growing up with a traveled interior. Having something
that is not looking like a cookie cutter. Everybody's house
looks the same. It could be something that it could
be a favorite color that you introduce, or a textile
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or an object of your travels, something to remind you
of the past, something that makes you feel really special,
and it could be something you found on.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
The side of the road. It doesn't have to be expensive,
but you love it.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
So having that incorporate space layers so that you have
different heights and scale, whether it's on your bedside table,
on your coffee table, on your entranceway console. Let's not
keep everything the one height. So sometimes it could be
your fresh screen, or it gives you scale that's been
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your height.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
And then you come down to little pilot books.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
And then you might have a dish for your key,
so you've got three different heights and scale. So layering
could also be of textures. So we're talking before about
having a rug under a table. It's got a texture,
and then you have the layering of napery on the
table and you might have a place matt. Then you
lay that with a Britan place mat, you have cutlery,
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you have an underplate, so again it's giving you a
little bit of height to a dining table, coffee table.
On your bed, you can layer a throw rug over
the end of your dinner, add some euro pillows. So
it's building up a story using textiles and materials and
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so luster is also really important to ensure that a
room doesn't feel flat. And luster comes through the metallic
finishes that you might use, knobs and tail retail rails
that has luster, Beautiful ceramic vas, glass vas, a mirrored box,
those things of a mirror in a room bounces, light,
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adds energy, and it just stops a room feeling very flat.
So there that's my blue print for design. Literally, what
is missing in this space that doesn't feel right? You've
got one of those elements and incorporate it and it
tends to bring it all together.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
I love it. It's so true. So I was going
to ask about this kind of goes with what you
just said, but just to bring it up, is the
rule of threes? Is that true? The rule of threes,
Like when you're doing arrangements on a coffee table or
an end table.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
I do look at the rule of three.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
I think styling in odd numbers it's very settling for
your eye the three or five or seven, but generally
coming down.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
To all of three.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Particularly it depends on the size of your space at table.
It works well to have the rule of three. So
you've got your lamp, maybe a caraffe, and then a
vase of flowers on a coffee table. You can divide
it into sections and you can have three or five
sort of vignettes to create visual interest for your eye.
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But keeping everything in odd numbers, just in odd numbers,
seems to allow your id to rest and have enough
interest to make it yeah interesting, visually interesting.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
I love that I'm constantly rearranging everything in my house.
Thank God my husband is not blind, because he would
kill himself because somehow I become humanly so strong that
I move things that are not humanly possible for me.
But somehow, while while he's sleeping, I'm rearranging. I moved
once a table in a living room or living room
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I think, to put it in my dining room or
vice versa. And I had to take it apart, and
there were two stairs. I had to somehow and I did.
I don't know how I did it, but.
Speaker 2 (41:43):
I love it. I totally agree.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
It's a bit like that in our shop when a
lady comes in to buy something and she just says,
I'll get it into my car.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
I will magically get that into the car and take
it home because you said. I don't want to have
to ask my husband to come and get it because
we won't get it.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
It's a very funny thing. I'm the same with moving.
Speaker 3 (42:05):
I just go I can do it. I don't need
to enlist help because you don't want to hear it. No,
we don't need to move.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Good on you. That sounds really good energy.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
I love it. I love design. It's so fun. So
let's see, Oh my gosh, how can we elevate our
mood and a home? Tell us how we and then
also tell us how we implement reflective surfaces.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
Okay, So the mood is very important. How the psychology
of home. I mean, it's the one place that you
want to go to feel really secure, really safe, really
at your best. You want to come home and just go, oh,
I can be truly me, and I'm surrounded by the things,
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and the way that the house is represented is the
essence of me.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
So I think.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Sometimes it doesn't require anything more than decluttering, having a
clean space that isn't pulling at you all of the
time to be oh, no, you've got to do this now,
You've got to do that. Just having a calm oasis,
so having the right lighting, having those elements that I
talked about before really do impact how you feel. If
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it's having a signature sense, so when you walk in
the door or walk into your living space, you go
when I get home and I smell my favorite scent
that already makes me feel something.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Or playing a piece of music when you're cooking, instead of.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I don't want to cook dinner tonight, you put on
some great Italian music or something from a Nazi Meyers
movie and you going, oh, suddenly I feel different in
this space. So I use that all the time. Just
the ritual of lighting a candle on the mantelpiece or
on the coffee table. Those little things can just make
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you feel so much better.
Speaker 2 (43:58):
So I do. I do think setting the tone.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
We have people staying with us at the moment, and
I love welcoming people.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
And so from the.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Mood, lighting out and the verunda when they get there,
just lighting a candle and a lantern by the door
coming in, and just in the hallway and the living space.
It smells great. Their bedroom lights are already on, there's
a fresh flower by the bed. It's the transformation of
they've just arrived two hours in the car.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Ah. You come in.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's not quite ready for a fire yet, but normally
I'd have the fire going and there's cheese and Picki's
on the coffee table, and you just go, ah, thank
you so much. It's a welcome. It's a generosity to
people who come. But you give yourself that same sense
of I don't need to do that only when people come,
do it to myself when I come home, and it
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really improves relationships. It gives you peace of mind, lets
you rest well.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
So all very important things. I think. The and other question,
oh go ahead now, question.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Was on luster surfaces, reflective services were I saw something
today it was it was reflective services, and I think
it was more like mirrors, and yes, yeah, just go
into your the design aesthetic of the reflective services and
how we incorporated and if someone's listening to this, Okay,
I'm going to go do that with this, or I'm
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going to buy this, give us a tutorial, yes, moment.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Okay, So that that incorporates that sense of luster again
where and light, because placing, strategic placing of mirrors really
does add light and luster to a space. So I
think anytime that you can amplify natural light. So if
you can't have a huge mirror, you might be able
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to put a small mirror into a bookcase. So again,
it just bounces back light beside your beds, you could
above your chest of draws. Again if it's a dark space,
but you get a little bit of natural light, that
will amplify the light, energize the space. So wherever you
can incorporate a mirror, just be mindful of what it's reflecting,
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because if it's reflecting clutter, not such a great thing.
If it's reflecting the trees outside or a beautiful piece
of art. Again, it's making a room have visual interest,
adding light, adding depth to the space, making a room
feel bigger. They're all if that's the desired effect, I
think it's really important. And if you can't incorporate a mirror,
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sometimes it's reflective surfaces like a mirrored side table or
even a mirrored box. You know, it's still a play
of light, adding a bit of luster and a little
bit glimp to a space and stop things feeling too flat.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
I love it. I love mirrors because I love you
can have so many different frames. It could be frameless,
or it could be just the whole. I like to
like a wall of different mirrors with different frames. I
just think that's really.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I love that look. I love that look.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
And sometimes if you have people sitting, you might have
a beautiful window with a view that certain people who
are sitting at the table get to see that, but
the people sitting opposite to see a dead wall. That's
where a mirror can allow both parties to see that view.
And if you don't want just a full mirror, you
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might have a grid pattern, so.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
It's sort of diffused.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
It's broken up into little squares, but you still have
that sense of reflection and we're both sharing that fabulous view.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Absolutely, I have a huge project that I know I
can't do. I have a huge French post, not poster,
but a huge piece of art with a huge frame,
and there's I mean, I think it's going to take
three people to move it, but I really want to
move it to another space because I want to put
a mirror there because we have a beautiful view of
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San Francisco Bay and so I know when I tell
my husband I want to do this, he's gonna him
in haw But I I want to move that there
and then I want to get a mirror there, and
I want to do exactly what you just said.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
I'm sure he will love it when it's done. Yeah,
you know, it's it's worth the effort of you. I mean,
I'm from the sounds of things. If you've got the
view of the bay, everybody wants to share in that.
Have you got another spot for the art I do?
Speaker 1 (48:24):
It's really so I'll have to text you to you later.
But it's it's a big and so there's a little
alco So I think I'm measured and I'm pretty sure
it can fit in there. You know, it'll be on
the ground leaned back, which I don't mind, and it
fits space because it's it's it's very big, but I'm
pretty sure it'll fit there because I want to put
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the mirror here so it reflects the view. And then
I was looking into wallpaper that you can actually create
your own wallpaper? Do you know that?
Speaker 2 (48:58):
And yes, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Done? You have you done it?
Speaker 2 (49:04):
I have not done it. No, no, but I'll give you.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
The person. And I think he's in Europe somewhere. But
I'm a big manifestor and I love words and fonts.
I'm obsessed with font letters, and so I so I
and so I want to do. I have all my
favorite places that I love in the world, Saint bart
centro Pez, London, Paris, whatever. So I found I actually
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just went on. I found a font that I liked
and I just kind of screenshot it. I wrote the
words screenshot it put in canva. You know. I was
just trying to give him a visual idea, and he
took what I you know, and it was places, but
also words like kindness and different words like that, inspiration
and those sorts of words mixed in with these places.
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And so I wanted, I want.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
So I'm working I want, and then he's turning.
Speaker 1 (50:03):
That into did and I said, I said peak background
to match this with either gold, black or white words,
and then I think it ended up looking that the
black words may look better. I'll send it to you
and I'll well, we'll do a FaceTime for sure, so
I can take you through. So it's been sitting there.
I haven't committed yet because I have to move some
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things because I need I need something to move because
of the coloring. But anyway, it's just it's.
Speaker 2 (50:30):
How magical there's your loved item.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yes, exactly. Yeah. And speaking of loved and older things, like,
there was a it's a console table around what do
you call them, it's like a round console table, I guess.
And it was my grandmother's and it had it was
an antique brown with a red leather, but that wasn't
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my color. So I had it refinished black and then
we and then we got rid of the and then
blacked over as well the top. So I love that
piece because it's beautiful. I just didn't like the anti
look of it, and it's just a beautiful piece.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
So it's and I love that repurposing. I think that's
so special that sometimes people do inherit pieces, and of
course there's a value to it that you sort of think, well,
am I ruining this by affecting But if it was
going to be sent to the tip and it's just
or you know, to a second hand store, there are
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so many things we have any Sloan paints and you
can weave your magic with a coat of paint and
it totally transforms. We had holiday houses over the last
few years, you know, decades, and it was a stretch
to get the holiday house. So to furnish it meant
flea markets and second hand stores and off the side
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of the road and repainting and repurposing, and they become
some of your most favorite pieces in the end, because
if you've put time and energy into it and you
love it and it's good for the environment, you know,
recycling really so that sounds beautiful.
Speaker 2 (52:10):
What color did you paint it? Was it black?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
I did black? Yeah? I had everything for this modern
and everything was black and white. And now when we
moved from when the kids grew up and we moved,
I refinished. And I do. If I like a design
a piece, I want to keep it because I don't
want to throw it away, you know, if it's good.
And it was qualities. The sofas were quality everything. So
I and what I learned from the upholster is like
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he said, yes, I can take that chair and we
can get rid of I didn't think of this, but
like there was a flap at the bottom which was
kind of dated. So he said, oh, I can change
the legs. We can get rid of the flap. So
I kept the pieces and I did a white linen
restoration hardware type white sofa, this was before the kiddies,
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and did two club chairs in bright pink magenta. I
looked at velvet, so I looked forever to find the
exact color I wanted and and to it sounds very fine,
and I just painted that. We just had the cabinets
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in our kitchen painted pink.
Speaker 2 (53:19):
You do love pink.
Speaker 4 (53:20):
That's the walls are white and then the cabinets are
pink with uh gold knobs bronze brass knobs.
Speaker 1 (53:31):
And I couldn't decide. I had all different colors, you know,
testing the different colored pinks and magentas. Do I match
the art, do I match the chair? And then I
ended up matching the smeg blender and toaster exactly.
Speaker 2 (53:46):
So there's this meg pink.
Speaker 3 (53:48):
Is it wondering what color pink is pink?
Speaker 1 (53:54):
It's it's light and it's But the funny thing is,
because you always think you just want to, you know,
our house is painted white, and I want to paint
it again white just to have it, you know, after
five years, you want it just to clean it up again.
But even pink. The pink actually for some reason makes
it brighter than just the white cabinets. It's I don't
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know why. Yeah, And it's just the doors. I didn't
paint everything, just the doors, so I'd still have enough
weight contrast.
Speaker 2 (54:23):
I love that. I love that. That's so beautiful.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
I'm helping a lady with her apartment and Sydney and
they've got their family home in the country and this
apartment for when she works in Sydney. And it's that
feminine touch and that pale, pale pink is the thread.
And it was inspired by a piece of marble and
she said it had the tiny thread of pink in it.
What do you think? And I said, love it. Let's
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go with the pink. Just pink touches soft pink wallpaper.
Because her family have to come there well, husband and sons,
and so it's that it's just beautiful. So I totally
resonate with with where you're going or where you've been
with your pink.
Speaker 1 (55:04):
When I when I'm working with a client, I say
because a lot of times the clients love what they
have and I and so what I will say to them,
I say, well, we all have our own styles. I
would not put my house on the market looking the
way it is. But the same with your house. We
have to neutralize it and make it more appealing to
the masses. No one's going to come in my house
(55:26):
and say, oh yeah, I love this. I you know,
I'm you know, some people might hate pink. You know,
it's like so we would never do that. So I
always say that, So what do you have a favorite
candle scent or scent in the high? Do?
Speaker 3 (55:39):
I absolutely do. My favorite candle is true Daun French candle.
Make it so be four hundred years old. You know
they made candles for Napoleon and uh around they're well fabulous.
Speaker 2 (55:55):
But is the neesto e r n E s ernesto.
Speaker 3 (56:01):
So I have it in a DIFFUSI when you walk
in the door, I have a candle burning in my
living room.
Speaker 2 (56:06):
I have a diffuser in the bathroom.
Speaker 3 (56:09):
It is just oh, I absolutely love it. Yeah, so
so try that. That's absolute true. Theaker is true. Don
t r U d o n true don.
Speaker 5 (56:27):
Oh okay, that's a true one. Okay, true don okay,
got it. And the scent is Ernesto, and it is
just so yummy. I prefer personally, I prefer slightly more,
slightly more masculine sense than really really ultra floral. But
everybody has a different taste. We sell their candles and
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there's there's just.
Speaker 3 (56:49):
Many, many, many of them under closures, and I love
the experience of people coming in and you know, seeing
what resonates with them. They've got some one scent is
an like an extraction from the floorboards of the Sai.
So they've literally taken the scent of the floorboards of
the sai. So if you love going to France and
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you want that.
Speaker 2 (57:10):
Oh wow him the smell, you can can get that.
It's just it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (57:15):
So Ernesto, that's actually I would not know what you
were because there's a smell that I love. I would
have not known that you could, like you just describe
the floorboards and making that scent. There is a smell
that I love when we I'm in northern California, but
we built a house in Scottsdale, Arizona, and it's a
(57:38):
it's it it's called DC Ranch. So when we bought
it was all it was an old ranch and it
hadn't been built up. Now it's built up, and you
wouldn't know it was. When we bought, it was empty,
but it smelled like a ranch. And I just loved
that smell. And it was just.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Wait, it's a little bit small key like the smell
of timber wood and.
Speaker 1 (58:04):
A little field. Yeah, and horse like a little bit
if you like, you're on a ranch. And it just
I don't know, I can still picture the day we
went to look took some friends to look at the
property that we and it was still you know, they
were they were the kids, the little kids. Now they're
twenty eight and thirty one, but they were, you know,
sitting on the little wood horses and you just saw
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just made this well, just I love it. To take
that and to make it a candle into a candle. Yeah,
it was really fun. No, And and so they now
there's just there's I mean we built a house and there.
You know, it's a huge development with different different houses
on it. You don't you don't smell that smell. That
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smell is long gone. But it's nice to have that,
to have that, and I have that memory I'll always
have with me. It was just it was such a
time in our life too, when the kids were young
and we'd spent a lot of time going back and forth,
but you know, while they were young, and it was just.
Speaker 3 (59:01):
So special memories. If I come across a candle scent
like that, I'll send it to you.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah, thank you, thank you. So what are some budget
You know, people are buying one, two, three million dollar
homes and they are first time home buyers, are areas,
so it's spense. Now they have to buy some furniture
and they don't want to bring their cheap apartment furniture
with them. How should they start? What's a way to start?
(59:25):
And are there any just give us an idea of
how they can start to build and where should they start?
Speaker 2 (59:32):
Yeah, if they were scouting from scratch, not bringing things, or.
Speaker 1 (59:36):
They can bring some but yeah, yeah, I just give Yeah.
Speaker 2 (59:40):
I think it's sometimes it's smoke and mirrors.
Speaker 3 (59:44):
I do think and I do love to decorate that
way where it isn't. You work with a budget and
you can invest in things like a really good bed,
a dining table because you look at and a lounge,
you look at the key thing that invest well there
because if you buy a sofa that has a ten
(01:00:06):
year warranty, you're guaranteed it's going to last twenty thirty years.
Anytime you buy anything that's well made, you can recover
it out the track, you can slip cover it. But
get a really really comfortable, well made sofa, a really
comfortable bed, the BedHead you know you can change up again,
(01:00:26):
that's not the expensive part, but the bed itself. And
then you can repurpose other things, so you're dining chairs, yes.
Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Comfort.
Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
I don't understand how you could buy a lot of
these things purely online without testing first. But I have
got clients that have said their children are a little
bit disposable. They'll just buy it online because they want
it now. It turns up not happy with it, they
sell it on Facebook Marketplace. It's a waste of time,
energy and not good for the environment. So go to
(01:00:59):
a show room, sit in your chairs, test out the
sofa for both for people who are living there if
it's a partnership, because what a woman might like in
a sofa, her partner might like something different and vice versa.
Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
So invest well.
Speaker 3 (01:01:14):
In those keyper pieces because you will take them with
you onto your next home, or at least reel them
because they've got a good brand and a warranty, and
make sure that they're comfortable and practical. And then your
ancillary pieces if you're on a budget, things like you
can look to flea markets, auction houses and Facebook marketplace
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for coffee tables, side tables. You might inherit some pieces,
but as you did with your entrance console, you can
repaint things with something like an Annie Sloane paint. It's
amazing what you can do in a weekend by repainting things, bookcases,
well even the way.
Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
What was the cult something? Some Yeah, the paint before
we continue, I'm so sorry, but we're actually we're over time.
Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
We gotta we got to wrap it up.
Speaker 3 (01:02:07):
Okay, okay, okay, any sloan, because you the beauty with
is you don't need to prime it.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You can just paint it straight away. So that's ok.
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
One, Well, I knew this would we would go on.
I still didn't get to all my questions, but we're
going to have to do We're gonna have to wrap
it up and then we will do part two. Yeah,
So how does someone get ahold of you?
Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Susie Anderson Home dot com is our website and all
of our socials are on there, Susie Anderson Home on YouTube, Instagram, Pinterest,
We're there, so I'd love to hear from you any questions.
Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Thank you so much. Please all social and I'll continue
to do so throughout the weekend. Thank you so much.
It was a pleasure and I look forward to getting
you back on the podcast.
Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Look forward to it. Loving to what you did.
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Thank you nicelyving you. Tune in each week for another
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Debbie Dematio.
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