"The Rom-Commers" by Katherine Center (w/ Emily Fidago)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Wait, Serena, did you like this book?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Of course I liked this book.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I might even how we missed you, How we missed you.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
You know, it's more dangerous than one person on a
diving board two people on a diving board.

Speaker 4 (00:16):
Okay, don't try to a rom commerce.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
If we're gonna have a rom com I'm gonna need
some fucking who.

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Would ever be charmed by someone doing a headstand and
sh reciting Shakespeare in high school? Who would like that?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
We decided to say our thing at the same time, which,
like what adults actually do that? So we have two
important we both have an important thing to say.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
Okay, I have answer and I want a divorce. Hello everyone,
and welcome back to Mean Book Club. This is our
final episode of the season, and we got a doozy.
It's The rom Commerce by Catherine Senner. Romance comedy, romance comedy.

Speaker 4 (01:00):
What more can a book give?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, I give you big claims, big claims in the title,
not really following through with in the text. But worman
book Club. We read books that you tell us we
need to read because you don't like them or whatever.
But they're New York Times bestsellers that maybe shouldn't be.
We are your hosts. I'm Sarah Burton.

Speaker 4 (01:25):
Oh yeah, I'm Jonas Graves Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
This is our second time.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Yeah, I'm Sabrina b.

Speaker 4 (01:32):
Jordan Claren is joining us shortly.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yes, So, which is big, you know, because we haven't
had the whole crew together. And of course I know
you really want to hear some ketchup from Sabrina. You
want to know what's been going on you miss her, so,
but first we have to introduce a very special guest,
so but so, but I'm sorry. Also, Sabrina, did you call?

(01:59):
Did you do you refer to Johanna as gay? When
she said no, girl, I thought Johanna said was like
delayed in introducing herself. She was like, I'm Jonas Scraps
and you I thought you went gay gay?

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Yeah you know me.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Gay to know? But okay, good good, just misshard just misheard.
Just can't wait to find out what you actually said. Anyway, Uh, Sabrina,
do you want to do the intro?

Speaker 6 (02:28):
I absolutely do.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Listeners welcome our guest, published Mixed Sweeney's, author of the
incomparable Six Reasons Why You Should Vote for Me Old
White Man Corpse in twenty twenty. She's a friend, she's
a fan and a periphery character of the pod Emily
the Egg Girl.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Hello, Hey, Emily, Emily, Emily, We're so excited to have
you back. We're so excited to have you here. And
and this is also a very special episode because you
were actually the reason we're reading this book.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Okay, And I just learned that by reading this outline,
I sended recommendations. I just don't remember which one. Sure,
I feel sorry for all of us that I made
us read this.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
She encountered so many bad books she doesn't even know
what she passes along these days.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
You didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
So much to the notes that we keep that have
like the detailed recommendations. I assume it was Joanna had
put in email from Jonna on nine ten, twenty four,
So I was like, okay, little research assignment here.

Speaker 6 (03:39):
When to my email, literally all it said.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
The rom commerce by Catherine Center, recommended by Emily.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Okay, did you need in? I hate to ask, and
anybodyho's listened to these other episodes will know where I'm going.
Did we confirm it is a Here Times bestseller?

Speaker 3 (04:02):
No, no best selling author.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
We are going to have to kill ourselves in a second, I.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
Will say I'm meant to do that.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
And I didn't.

Speaker 7 (04:15):
Okay, masmination, I didn't say like that it was a
New York Times bestseller.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
I just was it.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
Definitely shouldn't be. I don't even remember setting this recommendation.
And now I realize you're trying to frame me.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
You texted me looking your text. Look at your text
right now? From when from nine.

Speaker 6 (04:34):
Nine ten times.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Okay, it is, according to AI Overview, probably accurate New
York Times bestselling novel.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
Okay, let's see it best book to me.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
But I'm going to need a little bit more than that.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Doesn't a tree have to like give it something?

Speaker 6 (04:49):
Forgot about that?

Speaker 4 (04:51):
What?

Speaker 1 (04:52):
No, what, You're right?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I forgot that it uses a lot of.

Speaker 4 (04:56):
Energy, a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
We have to use that energy. Now we don't have
the time. We need to use AI.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
It achieved a spot in the top ten on the
New York Times bestseller list following its release.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
In Search Roum Commerce in my Text and Nothing to
Johanna came up let the record show.

Speaker 7 (05:19):
Wow also said it to me in life, and I,
being such a good listener, was like, I'll email myself.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
That sounds like JOHNA.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
I was really I when I looked back at the emails,
my reply was something along the lines of like, oh,
hell yeah, because I read the.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Book, all right, don we know what list it was on?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
You know, one of them? How has the season been
since I've been gone? How we started rough?

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah? So I just want you to know we have
been falling apart and know they have not all been or.

Speaker 7 (06:03):
No, actually humiliating, not like it's been like we have loose.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
It's like, as a listener, I've been disappointed by it.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
We have been getting emails from people being like, do
you need help with this? And yes, yes, frankly we do.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
It's just such a simple thing, like we shouldn't need
help with.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
No, we should.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Okay, great news. What hardcover fiction?

Speaker 6 (06:27):
Hardcover fixture a real June.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Four and it was number ten.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
I see it. I see it. I'm with you. I
see it as well. Oh thank god, thank god.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
Thank good.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
This is a this is a motherfucking New York Times bestseller. People,
let's yeah, let's continue. Okay, I should make a movie
out of this. So we have a very this is
very special because we are doing an episode with the recommender,
So I feel like, if this goes well, Emily might
be setting the tone for like a future concept where maybe,

(06:59):
you know, we can bring in the people recommending the
book as a guest. I don't know, just an idea.
I'm floating it. We're going, you know, it's going to
really depend on how Emily performs, but everyone can be
as multitient also.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Like famous comedians, if you could start recommending stuff.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Okay, so how did you guys read it?

Speaker 4 (07:24):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (07:24):
For some reason, this book is fully available on Spotify
for free.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
What, Johnny, You're really good at finding these I.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Was sending all the texts about how I wasn't getting
off the wait list in time.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
Johnny keeps now finding free books and then holding not
telling anyone until we record the episode. It's her new thing.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
What the hell?

Speaker 7 (07:48):
I think it's because like I'm finding it so late
and I'm not.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
But you know how late I'm going to be reading.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
I'm not like thinking about anyone but myself in this one.

Speaker 7 (07:58):
It's like it's like a panic, like like it's like
I'm Sea Biscuit and I'm in my final laps of
the race.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
I'm not looking at the other horses. I'm just trying
to like, I.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Don't think that's the story.

Speaker 3 (08:09):
Of seabisc but I wish I could fact check. But
I never watched that movie.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Yeah, well I know he's a race horse.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Yeah, but I I assume you're not winning the reading.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
There's no competition, but maybe to her for her it is,
I guess i'd win. So was it a real Was
it the real audiobook? Johnna? Yeah it was?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
It was the real audiobook was completely available.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
For fo That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
It was like beautifully narrated. I I never understand when
those things are just.

Speaker 7 (08:41):
Available for free, Like is the author doesn't want to
make money or yeah, you might.

Speaker 6 (08:47):
Have signed up for a subscription.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I do pay twenty dollars a month for Spotify.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Oh okay, then you're paying for it.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Oh yeah, you are.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
You get like a certain number of if you have
spot My premium, you get a certain number of hours
an audiobook for free.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
It's actually good, I think. Also, I don't think I
knew that, So thank you. I got mine from my
the false identity or the stolen identity I have with
the LA Public Library. I was able to get this book.

Speaker 7 (09:21):
Listeners, know you haven't written an episodet emily because it
hasn't aired. But Sarah stole her sister law's identity to
begin using the Los Angeles Public Library.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Say, what's wrong with your identity?

Speaker 1 (09:32):
I don't technically live in Los Angeles, the city, so
that was my issue with my identity.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
It's like, we're going.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
To find out it's not a resource.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
She should be kind of weird to me because libraries
have all these share programs with like libraries across.

Speaker 6 (09:51):
The country of world.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
So I feel like, if they're going to have that
share program and potentially send that book to somebody in Texas,
why can they let somebody who lives in Glendale just
be a member of their library.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
I don't know. It's fucked up, And thank you. That's
that's why it is kind of like a form of
protest that I am doing. Yeah, that's how I look
at it.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It's nice to see people involved in their community like that. Yeah,
for change.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
So I read it.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
I got on the wait list in maybe like February,
and I think there were one hundred and forty five
holds for nine copies of the audiobook. And I bet
if I checked right now, I'd be like number three
on the wait list.

Speaker 6 (10:40):
So the timing just really didn't work out.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
In my favorite it was almost perfect, but it wasn't
And so I found a free version on YouTube, which
I thought the robot reading it was so convincing until
there would be a couple of things that were just
like a little off, like it would read the word
walking as like walk I n G what, But otherwise.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
Sounded really good.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
And then there was one thing that was really crazy
throughout the whole book, which was anytime the word what
was said, it was said what, and it would be
it would be like it wouldn't make sense, and it
would be in parts of phrases, so I'd be like,
guess what.

Speaker 6 (11:28):
It was just so crazy, but it was available for
free and it was a really good robot.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
All right, congrats on that robot putting audiobook readers out
of business, Emily, how'd you read it?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
So now people in Pittsburgh do not care about this
book because when I look it up and John asked
me to do this last week and I would see
if it was available, multiple copies available every library branch.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
Wow, has it reached the bird?

Speaker 3 (11:59):
And think they're really small? One down the street from
my house, so I just walked down and grabbed the book.
But I did try to read this book. I mean,
when you recommend it to be recommending it.

Speaker 1 (12:10):
I did read.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
About half of it at some point in the last year,
and I got so angry I stopped, and so I
returned to it for this purpose.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Oh well, I love to hear you know, once we
start getting into it, you know, this is where I quit,
and I.

Speaker 7 (12:23):
Would love to say I got all right.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
So I guess what's next is this is huge back
to you know, classic the classics with Sabrina sums it up.
I'm very excited.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
Yeah. I think it might be long the summer, and.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It is a bit of a screenplay, which I thought
was appropriate for this book. I will say I forced
having five people in it it. So I'm going to
have someone read Emma.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I'll do it.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Okay, I'm going to have someone read Logan, which I
think is actually really fun.

Speaker 4 (13:18):
I think you should be Logans.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
You should be Logan.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think it'd be a good.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
What's wrong with that, Sarah?

Speaker 1 (13:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I just.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Straight male.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I don't want to play it too stereotypical, you know,
pressure go.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yeah, yeah, you're gonna do some icy water.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Okay, then we're going to combine Sylvie and Charlie.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
I can do that.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
Okay, So you can be Emma and I'll be narrator.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Should I really be em Yes, it's a part you
were born to play.

Speaker 6 (13:57):
Yeah, you can be narrator if you prefer, but that's true.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
I'll be narrator.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Oh okay, I really want to narrow.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
No, okay, no, no, I'm kidding. Okay, which wait, I'm
okay with whatever it is.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
We just clarify what is the least important role?

Speaker 4 (14:14):
I will take it.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Wow, there's no small roles for in Sabrina's writing.

Speaker 7 (14:18):
Sabrina like, I think she went to great pains to
beak every role a beautiful part.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, important, I think be Emma. I feel like there's
cadence and narrator that I didn't write out because I
assumed i'd be narrator.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Okay, yeah, all right, let's do it.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Okay. It's an ordinary day.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
And as she always did, Emma was sitting within six
inches of her disabled father, who was tragically injured after
he went rock climbing at Emma's insistence, when she noticed
a familiar name come across her phone screen.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Logan, how's Hollywood girlfriend?

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Do I have some crazy news for you?

Speaker 3 (14:58):
What could be crazier than that? I'm in high school
and I was actually was your girlfriend, and I turned.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
You gay somehow? It's crazier. You know your favorite movie
writer of all time.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
The one, the only, the big brain genius that is
always underdressed, get ruggedly handsome, whose picture I definitely don't
kiss every night, like it's the real him. Charlie Yates.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yes, him. Anyway, he wrote a rom com and I
need you to totally rewrite it.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
I can't leave dad. He needs me to take care
of him.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Don't you remember that very elaborate and specific plan you
came up with your sister that you'd take care of
him for ten years, and then the moment she graduated college,
she would take on the next ten years.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
I don't think about it.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
It was maybe like a day or so later, and
Emma and Sylvie are chatting.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yeah, So, anyway, I got an offer to go out
to Hollywood and we write Charlie Yates's rom com. But
I'll probably just make sure that is eating too much
soy sauce here instead.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
Omma, Oh my god, Charlie Yay.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
It's like the Vermanby, only the big brains genius that
is always under addressed yet rugidly handsome. His picture You
definitely don't kiss every night like it's the real hymn.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Charlie Yates.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
You gotta go out to Hollywood, like could a more
perfect scenario fall into your lab?

Speaker 4 (16:13):
I don't think so.

Speaker 7 (16:14):
I'll take care of that, just like we decided when
I was twelve years old, and we made the very
elaborate and specific plan. I'll do everything just like you do,
and I genuinely do not care about the really prestigious scholarship.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
I just got Emma decided, after all, to take her
big shot and go to Hollywood. Logan for reasons that
didn't make sense, handed her his own phone and talked
to Charlie behind the door, racked enough that she could
easily listen in.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
I brought you a writer to make this script good.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
I don't care about the script. I hate realm Colms. Wait,
he's British. No, Logan's British.

Speaker 3 (16:55):
No one's one's British, well.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Not in the audio book, And I don't want to
make it good.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's that writer I told you about I set you
her stuff and that video of her for basically no reason.

Speaker 7 (17:08):
Oh my god, you mean some unpublished loser who has
never done anything with her life. Yeah, no thanks.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Emma quickly searched through Logan's phone and saw that he
had sent a video of them as children.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
There was no reason that Emma could discern that Logan
would have.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
Sent Charlie that video, but it did give her a
nice moment to remember the good old days.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
Emma stormed away loudly.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Emma, way, absolutely not. This is stupid. You're stupid, and
he probably doesn't want to work with me because of
my curly red hair.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
On second thought, you can stay.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
And so she did.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
And it goes without saying that the book The rom
Commers unfolded romantically and comically.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Summary. Yeah, give away, it's more just the setup. I
would say.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
It really is a teacher.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
I would be curious, it's Sabrina. Next chapters.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Is this a summary, Sabrina? Is this a summary of
what you read?

Speaker 2 (18:12):
And?

Speaker 1 (18:12):
Perhaps did you only read the first eighty pages? No?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Okay, okay, no, no, how would I know that Emma
forced her family to go rock climbing?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
That's true?

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Perhaps they they say that like it's a big reveal
later in the book.

Speaker 6 (18:33):
Early in the book, she was like.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Well, there's something about this that I won't be divulging
to you. And then three quarters away through, they're like,
the thing that I didn't divulge, well, this is it.
I was like, we knew, we knew you told them
to go to rock climbing.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Did we care? Is the other question? All right?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
She's like, this is how you build curiosity about the character.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, like, I'm not telling you something that's so
I'm not going to tell you something. There's something here
that's missing you. Okay, Janna, what's what?

Speaker 8 (19:06):
It's our John as jugs, sure, jug my jug ladies
is well, as you all know, I'm still working through
the Big Wall Street Journal lines red package.

Speaker 7 (19:19):
So we're down to our last two bottles and one
of them is here with us tonight. So it's either
this or one written entirely in another language, I think,
some kind of Italian and been good.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
This one though it said.

Speaker 7 (19:33):
Okay Villa Resa Valley Douro doc, and I was like, doc,
that's the kind of film, and you know, just by wow, Okay,
that's why where I think like writers do work on
documentary so called projects, you know.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Documentary series.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
I believe the X the ex wife is a doc
does documentaries and she hates that's not such an normal
perspective from Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
So it's a deep cut twenty twenty one. I kind
of hate fiction to.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Actually, but but yes, it works for us, and we've
all been enjoying it.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I think it's a nice red Like we haven't been.
I've been getting like compliments and stuff on it.

Speaker 6 (20:17):
But that is true, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Wow, an actual recommendation.

Speaker 7 (20:23):
So if you want to be drinking what we're drinking,
just going over to Wall Street journal dot com, slash
where and then tape that in. It'll uh send you
somewhere and then delete that.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
Really verified, but that's not real. The New York Times
thing is real.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
But if you put slash me and book club, you're
gonna get an HTML error.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
You'll get redirected, but then it'll eventually take you the
right place. And you can also buy the package of
wines for seventy dollars.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
It's a great deal.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
It's like fourteen really nice wines for seventy bucks.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
You are selling me on this, But Sabrina, can you
sell us on this book and the author give us
the best.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And you know I went a little
quirky for this author's summary because we already did her.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
We read The Bodyguard.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
So you know, she's the reigning queen of comfort reads,
said someone that she posted on her website. Catherine is
a passionate advocate for the cultural value of love stories.
She writes laugh and cry books about how life knocks
us around and how we get back up. Deep rom

(21:40):
coms full of wisdom that are half struggle and growth
and half love story. That was confusing because struggle and
growth are two different things.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Also, there's no comedy was mentioned among those different things.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:55):
Yeah. She's been compared to both Jane Austen and Nora E.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Fron, and the Dallas Morning News calls her stories quote
satisfying in the most soul nurturing way. I think perhaps
most relatably. She is one quarter German but has never
been to Germany.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Incredibly relatable, beautifully said.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
And she's a mediocre cook, honestly, but she makes fantastic
canned biscuit donuts, which make an appearance in the book.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
I just and.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
They sounded very good to me during that whole scene,
and I kept them.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
Would picture them. I couldn't imagine them at all. Give
me a real dough.

Speaker 4 (22:39):
Give me like two of my favorite foods.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
Yeah, it sounds incredible, like, oh, I could make a biscuit.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
I don't. I don't understand how this is happening.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
How's to turn into a donut? You cover it in
sugar and it's just a canvas.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
Sugar hole in the middle about the donut. This is
advertising at best.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
This reminds me. There's a French restaurant in our neighborhood.
We actually live in a neighborhood called Little France, really
Little Paris actually specifically.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
But you've never heard of no one.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
I've never heard anyone call it, but.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Whole a lot of people call it.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
So I went to one of our many French bakeries
and I walked in and the guy that was working
there was.

Speaker 4 (23:24):
Like, I just had these sweet rolls come out of
the oven.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
They're like coated and sugar, and I was like, hell,
can I get a egg and cheese on that?

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Bad boy?

Speaker 3 (23:32):
And that's insulting?

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Probably, Yeah, he like he looked into the kitchen and
he went chef and then he said something in French,
and then in angry looking man came out and grabbed
one and took it back, and they did make it
for me, but they like were really unhappy.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I insulted. I think I don't think that kind of
food is on that kind of food.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
No.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
Well, also, if they're French, it's kind of their job
to be mean.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
As a listener, I have become accustomed these types of tangents.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Yeah, wow, thank you for giving that perspective. Was that
your way of telling us to get back on track?

Speaker 2 (24:08):
And you've come back to every single episode, So I
guess the proof is in the.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Places it's fucking beloved.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
I didn't say it was or.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Just an observation, all right, I asked Sabrina anything else?

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Also, while Catherine was researching face blindness for her novel
Hello Stranger, she discovered that she's a quote super recognizer
for faces and scored high on tests that she could
work for the police identifying suspect.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
I wish she would.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
That sounds nice, It sounds ridiculous, It sounds made up.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
I this is straight from her website, which she designed
and made, which is also a fact on her website.
The book itself published June eleventh by Saint Martin's Press.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
This is her eleventh book, My Friends.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
And it's a rom com about writing a rom com.

Speaker 6 (25:17):
And that is the.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Information I've provided on the floor.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
That's fine, that's just fine. I was trying to remember
the book that she did, that we did of her
as the Bodyguard Bodyguard.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
It was like, similarly, Jack.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
It was about Jack Stapleton, who is a character in
this book.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yes, they're not many characters, but she is already reusing them.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Okay, he's this book's Emily. She's creating.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
Imagining that someone identifies as a peripheral character all Emily.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
Not in a specific context.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
But yeah, Jack Stapleton.

Speaker 4 (26:04):
Yeah, I didn't even remember that, but yeah Jack was
the main boy.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Well, and the name kept pinging for me.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
It did for me too.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
At first, I was like, is this a real actor
whose name I like to remember them?

Speaker 3 (26:20):
Chris Stapleton?

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Oh sure, yeah, No, that didn't cross my mind. But
then I was like.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I think this was like, it's like creating a universe.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
It is, but I don't want to be in this universe,
so let's give me this what you want? Oh wait, Sita,
did you like this?

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Book.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Of course I liked this book.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
How We missed You.

Speaker 6 (26:52):
I might have even loved her. I have complaints. I
do have complaints.

Speaker 7 (26:58):
Okay, I hour so quickly and it oh me too.
It was like, once my hatred was ignited, it just.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Yeah, ooh, gobbled this baby up.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Oh this is insane least likable characters.

Speaker 4 (27:16):
I fucking read the book.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
Well, oh she's so also doesn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Also doesn't make sense, like the way she acted didn't
make it. Like it was poorly written in my opinion,
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (27:29):
Okay. I like the way that Catherine Center.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Writes, repeating every word. Have you seen the window? The window, Emily,
the window.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
She writes like it's like sentence and then another sentence
under it, and the sentence under it is like, here's
the kicker for my big joke. Yeah, but it's never funny,
and so it's like you keep reading like the kicker
and it's like, so, there's.

Speaker 7 (27:58):
This incredible article was written by I think it was
the writers for the show High Maintenance, Like I can't remember,
but it was a list of band phrases that it's
like the comedy writer's room cannot use on this TV show.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Because they because their Internet speak garbage that everyone uses now.

Speaker 7 (28:16):
Yes, and the way it was described as they evoke
the rhythms and idea of comedy without actually being funny
at all.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
And that is like that's like this entire entire book.

Speaker 7 (28:28):
Yeah, so you feel it, but it's like this hollowness
as you read it.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
So a classic example.

Speaker 6 (28:34):
Would be like I'm a gast.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
Well that wasn't on my bengal.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Okay, so she actually I wrote down She says, I
love that for you to her dad when because he's
dating like the neighbor or whatever, that made me scream.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Yeah, she says, like word vomits. She says all these
crazy classic and.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Also like don't you think she's saying it tongue in cheek,
like she knows it's a weird phrase.

Speaker 6 (29:01):
That's why it's funny.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
No funny, Like can.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
I think read it in that lens and you'll see that.

Speaker 7 (29:11):
The list was from the show Workaholics. I want to
give you guys just a couple more because it will
make you just want to not exist in the world.
Let's not and say we did wait for it just
threw up in my mouth.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
Good talk, mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Okay, roight Row, so good, Rose come back around. But
I'm I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Anyway, that's the list.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
There are like a thousand more, and just read this
book if you want to come up with more.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
It's just funny. It's just not funny. And it really
is hard for me to.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Break this glass and shift somewhat.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
That would be, that would be funnier to me, that
would be, that would make me.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
That was the funnier joke than any single one we've
read the book, and it wasn't.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
What It's just like that she First of all, the
character is constantly tilting her head. I tilted my head,

(30:24):
like what are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (30:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:26):
Is that really a way that people should write? As
you know, and like at one point I wrote it down.
Charlie nodded, nodded his head like yeah, that's what it's like.
Well he nodded his head, so we know it's like, yeah,
we don't need to.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
I love it. I'm mad I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yeah, I do, like, yeah, I'm not in my head
like yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Clara Morris is joining us everyone, just just in time
for the big combo. Hey, Claire, I love it. Hey, gang.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
How are we doing?

Speaker 4 (30:56):
We're doing mad, We're doing there's some infunny Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
I love the point that I just came in on.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, well guess.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
What because I noted it too, And I'm glad I
got brought up right away, right away to you noted
it in a great way.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
You said, I really like that. I think it's and
I think it's how people think and talk.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Sabria til get her head, like, I can't believe.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
That there's honestly so much in this book. I could
we like, I feel like I could be here for hours.
There's so much stuff that pissed me off in this book.
But I we do we should just like get through
the characters. I know we did kind of introduce them
with Sabrina's summary. I will say, I just want to
say for Johanna that Logan is British, and I'm sorry

(31:42):
I did forget that. You were right that there was
a because it was British.

Speaker 6 (31:47):
Oh, it was like.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
He grew up with London and then he moved. It
did make sense because I even wrote it down. It
was like his dad was living in London but then
got a news is a head news answer anchor in
Texas and I was like, why would someone like.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
What sounds like someone who's clinging to their accent to
be interesting but nobody's not.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
But he was the American. It didn't make sense. It
was like she's just making ship up and and then
their whole relationship. They dated in high school, but it
was like just then pretending to be twins. Because I
don't even fun.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
I wrote that down. It's like was triggering something that
would happen when they were in high school.

Speaker 4 (32:26):
Number it was true.

Speaker 7 (32:27):
Also, it makes me think that they were just bullys,
like they were just like, yeah, the worse people in
that high school.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Because it wasn't funny. It wasn't. It was again not
funny to claim it's just like a fun thing. It wasn't.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
My friend Zach and I pretended we were cousins all
through seventh grade.

Speaker 5 (32:45):
Did anyone enjoy that other than you?

Speaker 6 (32:48):
We enjoyed it a lot.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
People didn't believe.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Did you then?

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Did you then like come at them being like yeah,
because that's what they did. They were like, oh, what
are you racist? Because you don't think we're I don't
even know what they said, but whatever, it was like
weird the way she talked about him was as though
we were gonna think that guy.

Speaker 6 (33:05):
I didn't have to go down that road.

Speaker 5 (33:06):
But just the fact that she thought I will write
this and people will be like, ha, how funny, what
a funny person? Just shows how little she understands humankind.
It's like, no, we think that's anything except annoying.

Speaker 7 (33:24):
There were so many examples of just like, this is
the opposite of what I have felt and what other
people have experienced. Just a very early classic one was
like he walked out of the talking about the screenwriter
that she.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Has the crush on. She's like, he walked out of
his house.

Speaker 7 (33:38):
And needless to say, he was a lot bigger in
person than you know he had appeared on camera. Literally
the exact opposite of what happens every time, every single
time someone meets a celebrity, their reaction is, oh god,
they were smaller in person.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, because Charlie Yates is bigger.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
But Charlie Yates also, he's a writer. Why are we
treating him like he's like a director? Who do He's
not JJ Abrams direct? This is not at all. He's
not like any of these He's he That didn't make sense.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Yeah, screenwriter director like Aaron Sorkin. You know, it's like,
but he's.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Then you, he's just the screenwriter.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
As a fellow writer, I have to support making this
the it job.

Speaker 4 (34:27):
Look, no one wants to be the job more than me.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Here is my biggest issue with this book is that
the premise sets up this kind of like, uh, you know, uh,
there's this famous for some reason screenwriter, and there's there's
a big power dynamic because it's like she's fangirling obsessed
with him and they're working together and so, but there

(34:53):
was there was nothing with power dynamics that happened throughout
the whole. In fact, it was completely ignored, as though
someone who's like had that much success would that that
wouldn't be an issue at all. Was just wild and
it was pretty much just like, well, yeah, he's got
a lot more power than she does, but she's the

(35:14):
eldest daughter. Yeah, so watch out people. It was it
bothered to because there was actually like juice to that,
there's like, Okay, this could be interesting, I would like
to see. I hated that. I hated that that was
just like, no, I think I'll make it as boring
and blah as possible.

Speaker 5 (35:36):
Did you guys already talk about how he's a screenwriter
of action films. This is his main thing. No, we
can talk about this, okay, because that's not really known
for its writing actually, so that was pretty off putting
to me.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
Very I also loved the early description of Logan being like,
She's like, he is a Hollywood agent for writers.

Speaker 4 (36:02):
So he has a pretty glamorous.

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Job, and that's why his license plate is helen It.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (36:10):
Yeah, he gets to negotiate the contracts for writer.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Here's how savvy Logan is to convince Charlie to hire
her on an unknown, uncredited amateur writer who lives in Texas.
He sends Charlie a video of Emma reciting Shakespeare while
doing a headstand, and it turns out the videos mostly
family interaction. From when she's like, it's just like, how

(36:36):
is that compelling it anyway? But then also it's like
mostly the mom and the dad are like interacting, and
it what about that would be persuasive?

Speaker 6 (36:46):
I do have somebody there.

Speaker 7 (36:47):
If I were an adult man, like in my forties
and I got a video of like a teenager doing
a handstand and her mom's like, honey, your shirt, your
shark keeps falling down. You thought this would convince me
to high this person?

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Do you think I'm a pedophile because I'm concerned now?

Speaker 4 (37:05):
Oh yeah, okay, cool, got to change my behavior little.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
He's a thirty five year old man. And also he
logan has this whole cockamany scheme where he's like, I'm
not gonna tell him that I'm bringing her in and
I'm just just gonna appear and stay at her at
his at his house. It was just I don't I can't.
I can't imagine even if somebody I needed help with writing,

(37:29):
I can't imagine being like, yes, I would like to
live with the person I don't know, such a weird
force proximity trope. It was like, what get her a
place to live? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Pretty much?

Speaker 3 (37:40):
So frustrated he's got money, is like, nothing about her
convinces us that she is so special and like, but
people who meet her like she's like Charlie's like she's
dazzling And the ex wife sees her for like ten
seconds and it's like, who's that enchanting?

Speaker 1 (37:58):
Why with the crime your hair? Yeah, red headed heroine
ladies and gentlemen, we have to get back to.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I will say, I feel like most red headed heroines.

Speaker 6 (38:11):
It's straight red hair.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, so really, she's right. It was a new take.
It was curly, and it was corly.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah, glasses instead of glasses.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
She had curly hair, and then that was how she
was going to become.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
And when she was high school, her hair was so
long she could tie it in a knot.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
So do you mean ponytail? Are you tying your hair
in a knot?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (38:42):
No, I tie my hair.

Speaker 5 (38:43):
No not, wait, don't do that.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
That's what she's doing it right now.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Don't do it. She is doing it. But no, no,
you're not. That's a bud that's putting it. Are you
trying to call that a knot?

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Or you just I got I got over my skis,
but I can do it.

Speaker 5 (38:59):
Okay, all right, I'll take before we move on from that.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
High school not impressive, Okay, I recently got a haircut.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
How annoying it would be?

Speaker 3 (39:09):
Like?

Speaker 5 (39:10):
Who would ever be charmed by someone doing a headstand
and reciting Shakespeare in high school?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Thank you?

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Who would like that?

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And what skill does it show besides memorization and balance? Like,
how does that show you're going to be a good.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Like a lack of it.

Speaker 5 (39:25):
Also, okay, okay, people think about you.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
She did. She did win some writing competitions that she
then didn't take because her dad was sick, so we
could assume that she has some writing skill. Although what
was that script that won her that? And why wasn't
that brought up? Why did we have to hear about
a Mermaid script?

Speaker 6 (39:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (39:52):
I do understand that the beginning of your life is important,
with internships and stuff and the little sister starting her life,
but it's like, yeah, this opportunity for you to go
to LA for six weeks and like rewrite this famous
person's screenplay is probably an opportunity you should take as
opposed to your little sister.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
It was crazy, It wasn't it was even being talked about.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
I gotta say they needed to figure out a different situation.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yes, yeah, like some ages.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Yeah, I the plan that they cooked when how old
was she?

Speaker 6 (40:28):
Like fourteen and her sister was twelve?

Speaker 4 (40:32):
It was for the younger sister, by the way.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
She's like yeah, like eighteen, but still and you'll take
twenty five to thirty five?

Speaker 6 (40:43):
What what scenario? It's like you can graduate college, but
then that's.

Speaker 10 (40:46):
Fucking it, then your life is over until yeah, and
I will say, like, so in this story, that sister
she loving it.

Speaker 6 (40:57):
She's like, I don't need to do anything.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
And then she has her boyfriend come live with them,
and he's like, oh my god, I should build my
life around this.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Taking care of your disabled father in this tiny apartment.
It was crazy.

Speaker 6 (41:13):
I was a square feet apartment.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
I was like, what, why did they all love that? Like,
why did they keep the apartment? At the end, they
were like, we're all back in the apartment. Everyone's on
top of each other. I'm like, this is my hell,
this is my hell. I don't understand why this is
being told to me like it's charming.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:31):
Also, the trope of older sister taking care of younger
sisters for zero gratitude.

Speaker 4 (41:37):
I'm so sick of it. In these books. It's always
like the main character is just this selfless like.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, couldn't a little sister step the fuck up?

Speaker 4 (41:46):
Little sister?

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Really?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
But I don't know this, Grimrose, you should go to
the games.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Emma had a real she had a real martyr compedy.
She definitely liked it. She was like she was like,
I never left home, I never did this. It was like, okay,
I think you could have done a few things, like
I never went on a date. I never went to
the beach.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Also, she never.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
Went to the beach in ten Yeah, right in Texas,
Because I was like, what beach is?

Speaker 7 (42:12):
The redneck Riverea is right there, baby, Yeah, anything i've heard,
I don't know. I don't really know what that is,
but I've heard, I don't know, it sounds nice, really nice.

Speaker 6 (42:22):
Okay, I'll go.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
I know I don't want to Jo Johna's got it arranged.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
All right, there's lots of all right, so anyway, now
we're supposed to they're living together for some reason. Lo,
what are their names? I also couldn't remember Emma's name.
I heard Charlie Yates was saying.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
I did not know her name until like the last
chapter because someone called her em and I was like,
oh my.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
God, yeah, I like, don't think i'd be able to
tell you her name.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
Yeah it was. It wasn't said early in the book.
I'll tell you that. And then finally they said it.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I was like, oh, I just realized I never knew
the main character's name.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
But she had red hair, so what else did I
need to know?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
And she wasn't tall. The ex wife was tall.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
Well she wasn't short either, perfectly.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Right, Yeah, poor ex wife. She seemed fine, she got
a she got a harsh got a tough at it.
Tough at it, I would say, at the end, because
at the end they were like, oh, she left him
when she she found out any cancer, and then later
it was like, well no, actually she just wanted a
divorce and yeah, then he and they don't and then
she's wanted une do it, but he insisted. It was like, okay,

(43:36):
well that's different than what you were saying when you
said that.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you lied.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
You lied the whole time.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Because when he actually explains it, it's like we decided
to say our thing at the same time, which like
what adults actually do that? No, like we have to important,
we both have an important thing to say. Okay, three two.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
One, and they're not I have cancer and I want
to divorce. It was so funny. Also, Cuthbert, sorry to
I mean, we'll get back to the cancer stuff, because
we have to get back to the cancer stuff. But Cuthbert,
the what is it a gurbil hamster guinea pig pig?

(44:16):
Thank you? I fucking hated that. I fucking hated that
so much. It was like I imagined Catherine Center was
just like, maybe a cat, no mitten, a dog, no,
what would be so wild? I'm gonna have it be, Yeah,
a guinea pig. And then it was just like he
treated the guinea pig like more intensely than a normal pet.

(44:40):
I guess we're supposed to find that, is it? We
supposed to think that's charming. Wait.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
There was a line in the book, and I think
I wrote it down about.

Speaker 6 (44:50):
The guinea pig.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
She said I was all for humane treatment of animals,
but singing to.

Speaker 6 (44:58):
A guinea pig.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
And it feels really weird for a human to say
I'm all for the human Like that's like a person
who grew up in a really conservative area.

Speaker 6 (45:15):
It's like I'm all for people marrying who they want
to marry. It's like something unnatural to them.

Speaker 7 (45:21):
You know, me, I have a problem with eugenics.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
But truly, I was like, he's been It's it felt
like Catherine Center put that in just so we could
be like, oh, oh, look, Charlie's not so badly how
kind he is to this guinea pig? And I was like, no,
The fact that he's like that to a guinea pig
is like big, it's a red flag. It's like, you
can't be nice to a human, but you're acting like
that to a guinea pig. Somethings you're something's wrong. Get

(45:49):
a dog, something's wrong.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Get a dog, Yeah, I agree with Clara. Or a cat. Sure,
we got a little bit of a cat.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
Okay, Well, I think a dog.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
That's based on the interaction, he's sort of just feel
a lot better.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
For me, I'll be honest, because even singing to a cat,
it is like, I don't think they can't want.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, like a dog can sing along with you. It's
it's a little it's just like you're doing that for you,
not for the animal.

Speaker 3 (46:14):
All right, Well, definitely when it comes to the Powerwashing
computer game, I don't think Cuthbert.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
Was really no. I don't even thought that was a
fun detail.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
Sure it's my book going to be really bad.

Speaker 11 (46:30):
Oh no, no, did you copy that part?

Speaker 4 (46:36):
You put in things you think are from little details?

Speaker 1 (46:39):
I sure do. Worried, I sure do.

Speaker 7 (46:43):
But I'll say it seems like we're in the minority here.
Most people love this bullshit.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
I want you to love my book.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
It did make me kind of sad that I can't
just like you know, like let go and enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
It's too bad. But like I don't think that's on you.
I don't.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah. Also, just like how they were writing together was
like wrong, I don't. And then she had this whole
thing about like every writer has like a pen. They
you're either blue, ink or black, and it's just all
this Like I was like, what the fuck are you
talking about?

Speaker 6 (47:17):
No writers use computers.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
It didn't make it didn't make any sense. And then
she's like, oh, we found out how this we could
share on final draft. Like I was like, oh my god,
get out of So this is also.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
The same thing that happened with The Bodyguard, where it
was like she wrote about something that her knowledge of
seemed like it was like through TV and film.

Speaker 4 (47:38):
So and like, yes, I get that most.

Speaker 7 (47:40):
People probably don't like work like, you know, as production
assistance for for TV and film, but like.

Speaker 4 (47:50):
Just talk to one that does well.

Speaker 3 (47:52):
In the acknowledgment, she claims she did right. It's pretty upsetting.

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Upsetting. It's just she gets it like so wrong every time.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
I think she gets like human interaction wrong too, Like
Charlie Yes, and like Charlie and every like. It's like
death by banter. It's like every argument is every conversation
is just like dripping with sarcasm. Them trying to one
up each other. It's like, at what point are we
supposed to believe they like each other, they fell in love,
they like enjoy each other's company.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Why why are we being sarcastic about like, Oh, he's
afraid of swimming. He's and he's like, I'm afraid you're
gonna fall and die off that high dive. And she's
like being like making jokes about it. But it's like
you're like a page ago, you were talking about your
mom dying from falling from a great height. You're you're
not understanding of his fear, Like it's it was bonkers

(48:44):
to me. It was just like, no, this doesn't this
doesn't compute. It's either out of character, it's unearned, or he.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Uses it as a defense mechanism.

Speaker 5 (48:55):
You really think that could not work? Do you really
think that's what was going on?

Speaker 1 (48:59):
I do, No, she was.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
I do think no she was.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
She was trying to write, Oh, we're sarcastic and we
mock each other. That's didn't work.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
That's how people talk.

Speaker 6 (49:12):
That's oh wait.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
At one point I did want to circle back on
you know, I feel like we're like criticizing, not we
you're criticizing Catherine Center because like the way that she's
writing about something, it's like something she's never experienced before.
That is true in like almost everything that is written.

Speaker 6 (49:34):
It's just this happens to be a topic that you
know a lot about.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
But it's like when they're writing about doctors or lawyers,
like it's so wrong, right, and that's just what that's
what all writers do unless they started their career as
that job.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Like it's just hard. I think, well.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
You, but it's a wrong com like it's not like
a I guess, but she me she makes some pretty
big leaps. But also okay, it's not that deep. But
she's going for realism, Like I don't think like there
are books where they're there are they are fun. You're
ceiling in a way that like you get, Okay, I
this doesn't quite make sense, but I I'm going to

(50:16):
take the leap with them. But this was like she
was really trying to like paint the tature of like
here she's throwing in real celebrities, mixing them with her own,
like she's trying to be like, this is.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Really glimpse doing that.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
I do think you do it. You do does require
something to get something's.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
Correct like this, Every writer has a pen thing. It's
like you're trying to explain it to us. You have
to you have to reach heart.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
Yeah, you're making your do.

Speaker 4 (50:46):
You even have a pen, Catherine, because I don't think.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Maybe maybe just Catherine has a pen and she's trying
to make that a thing.

Speaker 5 (50:54):
It's like a child playing writer.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
I agree it was.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
And both of these characters felt like they were children
and they were thirty five and twenty eight or something.

Speaker 3 (51:04):
It was crazy, which like, of course, God forbid any
author ever make the woman over thirty, Like, oh yeah,
the god can be thirty five. She's twenty eight and
she was only.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Twenty eight, like because but she had been like original,
she had been inside for ten years. She was pretty
much as had never been excited, you know what I mean, Like, yeah,
she hadn't seen the sun or skin still looked great,
pussy was still tight like it was she was. I mean, that's.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Probably over thirty.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
It's no longer like you think these female authors would
want to try to combat any stereotype at all, but
they just like feed into it. And then these two characters, like,
I mean, it's truly, That's why it seems like yeah,
written by AI. It's like he can't cook, he's like
and she is clumsy and like you know, and then
when they talk about like she has a breakthrough at

(51:54):
one point she realizes when Charlie ates cares about something,
he pretends he doesn't, and it's like, yeah, like Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (52:06):
Also just giant red flag. If that's a quality that
your partner has.

Speaker 7 (52:13):
Also, if you're considering adopting a small animal like a
guinea pig, again, run in the other direction.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Just get a dog. You want a dog, You're going
to get a dog.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
Cat.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I'm sorry. They also, well, that's a good reason to.

Speaker 5 (52:31):
Know they have.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
Each other. Wow, figured it out good. I think well
other than yeah, I think this book was stinky. But

(52:57):
Charlie was pretty unlikable. But also he just was such
a dufus, Like it didn't make sense with someone who's
had won a bunch of awards for screenwriting that he
wouldn't be at a young age that he wouldn't either
be full of himself in some way or like neurotic
or like aware that people would think he's full of himself,
and in a way that it just felt like he

(53:19):
was also a dufist who hadn't written much, Like his
personality didn't make any sense for what it was shown.
Ass thirty five year old man who can't cook and
just has like sandwich meat in his fridge. It's just
like it's not cute.

Speaker 7 (53:33):
Hair is disht c's hands through it. It can't be
bothered to brush it.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
He holds his hair with his fist. I can't imagine that.
It seems so psychotic.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
I imagine a female character that was like her cute
quirky thing is like she would grab fistles of her hair,
would her hands come out?

Speaker 4 (53:53):
Her hair is just all like different directions.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
Yeah, it sounds like he's maybe having an episode.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Yeah, oh my god, the coffee. Okay, So in the story,
what I guess she like realizes she likes him. She
tries to convince him to kiss her to so that
they for research, which is so stupid, you know. Like
also like there's a lot of talk about consent at

(54:22):
one point in the book, but like he's she's not.
It's only from the male to female. It's not from
female to male.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Like she drank a whole bottle of champagne and then
was like, yes, oh sorry.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
I mean you're right, But also I'm just talking about
like before that with the kiss, she's like, well, let
it go, he's like, and then took it. So personally,
I'm like, you're a psychopath.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Psychopath, listen, not everybody is getting access to education on consent.

Speaker 6 (54:50):
I'm I'm okay with this ad, although a bit on
the nose.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
What we're talking about edition of multiple conversations around consent.
Oh right, but I'm what I'm saying is that he
was saying he needs consent, but then she wasn't. She
didn't care. She just kept she would say no, and
she would she would keep going and going, where I

(55:15):
was like, well, that was fucked up when like, especially
when you have it compared to like him.

Speaker 6 (55:22):
He thought he was playing hard together. She thought, no, man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Pretty much that's what we're hearing. So she's again, I
think character.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
That might be okay, you're joking at that point, we're
not even supposed to be like, she doesn't even know
she likes him, she's like legitimately trying to do it
for research, which I also found so annoying. Yeah, she's
like this is the only way he can learn, Like
what And also like he hasn't kissed anyone in five

(55:53):
years apparently, which I just thought was interesting.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
Was all so crazy.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, he's like I don't know, really famous, allegedly attractive screen.

Speaker 7 (56:02):
It's also established early on that she has a giant
crush on him.

Speaker 6 (56:06):
To say for giant and maybe they didn't talk.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Who do you think?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Yeah, but then she's like confused when she starts to
like him, but it's like, well, you are obsessed.

Speaker 7 (56:18):
For she never had an adolescence, never had a The
only guy she dated with someone that was pretending to
be her twin brother in high school, and like life
and relationships are.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (56:31):
At one point, she says she was like started dating
someone and then he went abroad for two years and
then he broke up with her when he returned.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Was like, I don't but that sounds familiar, but also
like it's hard for me.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
I was like college.

Speaker 7 (56:47):
Yeah, it's like everyone that studied abroad in college except you, Sarah.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
You did it.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
I did I did it. I made it. Yeah, I
don't this fucking book. Okay, So then I don't know.
There's more of nothing happens.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Where describe chapters.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I don't even know, like she it's more of her
being like do you like me? And he's like, no,
I don't like you. And then like he gets a
call and is super sad. She's like, oh, what was
the call about. Didn't say you were sick, and she's
and he's like, no, bitch, why what No, No, you've
done hypochondriac. Yeah, And then from then on, I don't know,

(57:32):
it's nothing happens. The more nothing happens until she gets
a call from her sister. Oh wait, I guess I'm
skimming over the he's five years cancer free. She makes
a dinner for him, even which is so crazy because
they're like fighting or like not talking, but she's still

(57:53):
like getting hot and making a dinner for him. And
she's like, I didn't check with him that about the time,
but I figured it'd be the same time and that
we usually eat, and it was just like, okay, you're
asking for this. Then she's like, whoopsies, I drink a
whole bottle of champagne. So cute and then she's like, whoopsies,
I'm gonna I'm on the high dive and I'm drunk.

(58:15):
And he comes home and eventually she falls in and
he has to get her out or something, and he
jumps in.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
Also like that series of events from her, first of all,
drinking a full bottle of champagne.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Something's wrong with you.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
That's she should be black out. She should be black out.

Speaker 6 (58:34):
No, I mean I wouldn't be black but I would
about what she would be.

Speaker 1 (58:37):
She doesn't ever.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Drink, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
And then like her instinct is to be like I'll
show him, I'll do the thing that he is deathly
afraid of.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
He's not home. Okay, that's not gonna show him anything.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Like, sure, he ends up being home at some point,
but like he's not there.

Speaker 6 (58:59):
Your idea, it is dumb.

Speaker 3 (59:03):
You know what, you were dangerous than one person on
a diving board. She goes onto the high dive and
he comes out and goes out onto the diving board too.

Speaker 7 (59:11):
It's like it's not designed to hold that way, even
though we know she's only ninety nine pounds.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Very fetite.

Speaker 7 (59:20):
The whole cooking a dinner for someone without confirming that
they'll be home for the dinner. Is like the one
way I could guarantee I could get in a fight
with someone. It's just it's like I set it up
perfectly just to be a murdyr. Like it's like if
I wanted to do that, I'd start cooking at noon
knowing that my husband was not coming on from work
until eight.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
And I just put all the food out.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
You'd sit there, I would put on heavy black eye,
make I would hit myself with water, and I would
just like go to bed at my usual time of
nine pm and wait for him to discover what an
asshole he is.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
He was also, wait, what about his reason he wasn't
there was because he had to go to his ex
wife's house to sing to Cuthber. Oh my god, it
was another It was so dumb. It was so dumb.

Speaker 6 (01:00:11):
It was okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
And then he pulls her out of the water and
she's a hypothermia, like she's shivering uncontrollably. They live in
Los Angeles, and it's like his pool makes sense, it's
the ocean. Yeah, And then she can take off her
own clothes, but it's not like she's so cold.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
It been like a seduction thing, but it's not. It's
it's played it like she literally can't take off her clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
Which I would assume it's not because she's so cold,
it's because she's so drunk. So if she's so drunk,
I'm like, I'm like, I hang, got it. Like it's not.
It's not sexy. I'm telling you it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
What follows is the craziest scene in the book though,
where she's so drunk she can't take off.

Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
Her own clothes.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
So he is like, I'm.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Gonna help you. I'm a professional at taking off clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
And she insists that he can't look and cow look
at me. So he honors that, and she's like, what
a gentleman he honored it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
But then she like goes into detail.

Speaker 2 (01:01:14):
She's like, well, what he couldn't see with his eyes,
he had to see with his hands. So he is
pawn all over me, groping every curb, curbs I didn't
know I had. And it's like, you know, at this
point you could change course and you could say, you

(01:01:36):
know what, this made more sense in my mind. But
now that you're three fingers deep, I think perhaps you
could open your eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:01:45):
Also, I want to say, having been through a college
experience getting drunk, I have helped many friends get in
and out of clothes when they are too drunk to
do so.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
And it has been in so quick.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, you're right, he wasn't dry. He should have had
no where could her arms be? It's so easy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yeah, you also like you cannot look without blacking your eyes.

Speaker 7 (01:02:21):
Like you cannot look but know the concept of clothing
and have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
A human And it was a dress, so like that's
pretty easy. It's like it was a strappy dress fall
down then that said on top.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
I've seen men with work with bras before in ways
that are just like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I don't think she was wearing braw I know, but just.

Speaker 7 (01:02:44):
In general, it's like, perhaps we do have to give
like a tiny little bit of like you know, sometimes they're.

Speaker 3 (01:02:49):
A little sure. I do think this isn't and she
was Catherine center, because it's established that it's just strappy
bikini on top. But for sure he doesn't. He has
trouble removing her bra because she had to say, like
it's a push pull. Oh, like I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
That, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:03:03):
So she was wearing how is she wearing?

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
She has?

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Yeah, it does sound like something I would have done
in eight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
My brass traps were showing every day in my life,
really shown a lot.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
That was a truly crazy scene.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And it leads me to my actual biggest complaint of
the book.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
And it's not a fair complaint because it's just not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
And I'm realizing it's not the cancer thing. So I'm
excited to hear what.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Oh no, it's just like if we're gonna have a
rom com, I'm gonna need some fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Oh of course, yeah, fool.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
And like there's barely kissing, there's nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
It's also she says, Emma thinks the sexiest kiss is
when a man has his hands in his pocket.

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
Oh my god, Yeah, isn't that?

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
So I read that those why not know that that's
the sexyiest kiss.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
His hands in his pockets?

Speaker 2 (01:04:09):
And she'd be like, okay, how is this sexym Like
is he like pushing his growing size touched?

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
And then it's like if someone started coming with yes, Florida,
the hands in their yourself, steadies, you can resist the
pushing into you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
But if there's anything I've learned from Love Island Kiss Challenge,
it's that hands play a pivotal role on how good.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
How you're so right, Sarah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
Where you put the hand, how you where you touch
before engaging in the kiss, It's all very important. So
two hands in pockets. It's crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:04:45):
It feels like she was maybe trying to be like
in the romantic kisses, like a when it's raining and
we're huddled.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Yeah together.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
She was trying to do something she couldn't think of raining.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
So she did.

Speaker 6 (01:05:01):
Yeah, she was like hypothermia.

Speaker 5 (01:05:04):
And at his pool that was open in La not
covered for the winter. If they do that out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:14):
There usually you maybe just have it a little heated
and your funk. You're good to go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
Well, if he never uses it, he reasonable that he
wouldn't heat it morning, you can get.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
It, sure, But I don't need.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
March.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
Was this March? What time of year? I don't know whatever.
It's stupid, doesn't it's stupid. Fully, it's stupid. There's no
major holidays that were past that.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
I was wearing my birthday or whatever, but nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Worried about anyway. Next day she finds out that her
dad fell and had a brain bleed, and so she
used to hustle home and so she.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Leaves without an Let's not forget that Sylvie the little
bitch was at the beach.

Speaker 5 (01:06:02):
Jesus Christ, it's been very clear that you can't go
to the beach for you.

Speaker 6 (01:06:06):
You're not.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
So we learn we have more reasons to really dislike
Emma because she just like wails on her younger sister.
And oh my god, the whole getting to the airport thing.
Did anybody is this? I'm asking if this is an
LA centric thing for me to get like crazy, it
was insane to me. The whole story about her getting

(01:06:30):
to the airport, that she got on that plane. It
all makes no sense to me because, first of all,
whatever it's, she's gonna be late. Somehow she gets there
twenty minutes before the flight, and it says she checks
a bag. Did you guys catch that? Twenty minutes before
her flight?

Speaker 6 (01:06:44):
They're checking.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Boarding the flight.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
Here's the other thing. I think Katric Center has never
flown before because all the time she said, like the
ID check and then the other line, there's two. Every
times she's, like I said in my idea, across the
desk into the window. It's like those things happen simultaneously.
You ID check, you're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
A different country. Yeah, what's going on? Here also, like
if you're that close, you would like talk to someone
and they would help you get through faster. You wouldn't
just like cry and if people look at you. And
then when somebody finally does help her, it's not help.
He just says, run, bitch, run. It's like they have
they have like carts.

Speaker 7 (01:07:26):
They don't take her there body.

Speaker 4 (01:07:29):
I think they enjoy saying this would be the time
to do it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
I didn't understand, like, Okay, the scene of it being
chaotic leading up to her getting to the airport was
fine for me because I assumed it was leading to
Charlie chartering her a private flight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
But I did have that thought too.

Speaker 6 (01:07:54):
But it didn't. That's not what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
And like why did they pull her aside? And then
they were like you're wait.

Speaker 6 (01:08:06):
Something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
The pilot came and was like, you're not missing this
flight because they're not leaving without me and I'm not
leaving without you.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
Was that explained?

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
No, it wasn't. It would have made more sense if
that was like Charlie's friend the pilot or something, but no,
it wasn't. It was just something that happened. She I
actually read this in like an interview, or maybe she
said it. I don't even maybe acknowledgement where she was,
like I read an article where this happened, and so
I put in the book. It's like that didn't make sense,
to make any fucking sense.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
The other thing is like when she gets pulled away
by Southwest to go in like this separate way to
get through, of course, just to bill attention, They're like,
come with me, and she's like, oh my god, they
were gonna take away my Like she thinks she's like
in trouble, but in the real world's gonna be like,
come with me. We're gonna make sure you get on
the flight.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Yeah, I wouldn't be like yeah, and you know they
don't really do that much.

Speaker 3 (01:09:03):
Yeah right, I mean like in reality.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
And then also she still doesn't text or anything, like
she's on a I don't know there's a flight, which
I do under flight, you're not gonna say, hey, I
left my Dad's something happened. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 7 (01:09:16):
Anyway, I have two little airport hacks. I know, like
we don't like tangents.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
But we don't like them, it's just that we noticed them.

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
Number one, you can never be too late to the airport.
As long as you're comfortable begging people to let you
cut sure, So it's all.

Speaker 4 (01:09:33):
You can be as late as you want. It's all
down to your personal comfort level with begging. Yeah, and
how good you are at it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:09:40):
Tip number two.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
You know how they always do the facial recognition scan Now, Yeah,
that's not something you have to opt into.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
Yeah, but you should because it is so fast.

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
It's not faster, it's just it's just somebody has to
look at your idea instead of putting you in the
facial recognition scanner. And that information is all run by
Homeland Security and nobody knows what they're going to do
with it. So if I were you, I'd be opt
in the ship out of that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
There's a problem. I've already opted in.

Speaker 4 (01:10:09):
It doesn't matter that supposedly has been deleted.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
Have you ever opted out, John, No, but I'm planning to.
I just learned about it. I just learned about opting out.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
All right, big news. We all should be good to
hear about your stance, really really good.

Speaker 4 (01:10:25):
Yes, everyone Claire wants to engage with us?

Speaker 1 (01:10:29):
Go ahead, crazy, Yeah, all right, fine, go Clara.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
Have you ever had to beg and get through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:33):
Yes, oh yeah, lots of times, twice for me, mainly begging.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
I have Once I've I've run into the flight where
they're like, oh, you're they know who I am because
I'm the only one who isn't on, and they like
put a code in so I can't get out there.
That's happened to me before.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
One time I almost missed my flight because I was
getting a massage.

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
The song across.

Speaker 1 (01:11:02):
Away from my game happened.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
And I just like couldn't because I was leaning back
and I couldn't have.

Speaker 6 (01:11:10):
I didn't have eyes on it. And the flight the
flight had been delayed by an hour and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
A half, okay, and then it got surprise undelayed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
They keep doing. That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
That's and then Meg and I were across from each
other in separate massage chairs, and I was like, oh,
I just noticed it said that boarding closed.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
And then we looked over and it was empty.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
And then we jumped up out of our massage chairs
and we ran over and they let us through.

Speaker 4 (01:11:41):
They saw you without pain is what I'm ripping off.
Your facial mask does not right, Clara.

Speaker 7 (01:11:53):
I just want to say I'm extremely uncomfortable with the
begging aspect.

Speaker 5 (01:11:57):
So I can't see you being the sort of person
who enjoy I really really.

Speaker 1 (01:12:01):
Nobody even enjoys it. I would say, but you got
you do it when you want to try to make
your flight, which is why it was crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
Crying it just like it was premeditating.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Well, I'm saying, yeah, it could be.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
Also, a teenager took a video of her crying. I
just don't believe. Yeah, I believe she's just like a
normal basic person with red hair cry.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Somebody would say something to her. They'd be like, are
you okay, sweetie? If it was that yeah, like people
people yes, and I will Emily no.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:12:28):
I have an example from Monday. Okay, on Monday, I
had to sit in a box truck all day, okay, whatever,
my glamorous job as a right box Wait, what's a
box strike?

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
First set?

Speaker 7 (01:12:42):
Like a big giant white moving choke with seats that
do not recline. By the way, really would have been
nice to take a nap because I was in there
for hours. Outside, I had a full base of red
makeup and crazy hair. I had to be hidden there,
but I wasn't like invisible, and people kept walking by
and seeing me they were staring at me, and a
teenage boy walked by with a girl, and I saw

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that they were staring at me, so I made eye
contact back to be like look away.

Speaker 4 (01:13:07):
They didn't look away. They kept walking.

Speaker 7 (01:13:11):
And then the boys took out a phone and took
a picture of me, like right in front of me.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
And he thought I was a.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Burn But you just said you had crazy hair and
you would make it seemed like you were burning fireworks.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
Yeah, I looked like someone that got fucking burned by fireworks.

Speaker 7 (01:13:25):
And a teenage boy took a photo of me to
my face.

Speaker 6 (01:13:29):
Yeah, teenage boys are rough, They're bad.

Speaker 5 (01:13:32):
Started I have a counter story.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Yeah, I Clara took.

Speaker 5 (01:13:38):
A photo and I tripped and hit my head on
the curb on the way down, and a lot of
teenagers saw and nobody was mean, and they were like
are you okay? And I was like yes, and they
were like I'm gonna I'm gonna stay here.

Speaker 4 (01:13:52):
Because it wasn't but Clara, did they say are you okay? Miss?
Or are you okay, ma'am?

Speaker 5 (01:13:58):
No, no addressing me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
They didn't stick their foot in that one. All right,
do you guys want to let's go to the bar
you look like your our age.

Speaker 4 (01:14:12):
I don't usually see fellows like me fall so hard.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Okay, So Dad gets a brain bleed, which, look, the
only person I know or I know close to me,
my grandmother got a brain bleed, and she like completely
changed her personality, like it was horrible, but didn't seem
dad any effect on the dad, even though he's got

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all these other complications. So that didn't really quite make
sense to me. But you know what, yeah, yeah, I'll
say that. I'll say that. I was like, Okay, then uh,
she's there. Uh and Charlie Yates because you have to
say his full name, flies out there to see her

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and talk to her, and she's just like, go away.
It was crazy, right. Also, like when she was escaping,
when she was like on her taxi to the flight thing,
she was like, Oh, I can't believe I did this.
I'm gonna lose my job. I'm breaking contracts, Like.

Speaker 6 (01:15:20):
The contract is very strict.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Yeah, you don't think they would let you get out
because your father, Like are you kidding me?

Speaker 3 (01:15:27):
Like I think, Sylvie, that's even more of an asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Oh yeah, yeah she was probably, but I felt like
she really believed it. She was like I'm out of
this job. Now he flies and she's just like, go away,
which I thought was super shitty.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
And then well he did tell her in no uncertain
terms that they were never going to be together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
I don't think he actually said that. I think he
just said, like, I don't love you, as he coughed
blood into his for his allergies. Anyway. Uh, but then
like all of a sudden, they're like, oh, VIP upgrade.
Everyone's giving them free food and stuff, and she's just like, well,

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la la la la, Oh, this is so nice. I
love hospital, like Jack, yeah, which is just okay. So
she didn't really think of this. Maybe had something to
do with Charlie. Yeah, she didn't even talk to Jack
Stapleton be like, I know we've met, I know Charlie. No, no, no,
none of that happened, okay, but obviously it ended up

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it was all Charlie trying to do stuff from Afar
for her. And then I don't even fucking remember. Okay,
you know what somebody else talk about the ending in
all energet because I can't even remember what happens right now.

Speaker 6 (01:16:53):
It was dumb. I will say, I didn't I like,
there's so much happened. I did not enjoy the ending,
but like, I mean, basically it's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
Like dead at one point. Well, so this is where
I think we need to get to. First of all,
she finds out that I got this. She finds out
that there's a screenplay called The rom Commerce. Logan calls
is like brom Commerce, it's being buck congratulations. She's like, what,
I didn't write that, and she's like he's like, yes,
you did, wink wink. It's just something that Charlie Yates

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wrote and put her name on, even though he wrote.

Speaker 7 (01:17:28):
It infantilizing and diminishing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:32):
And then like, donnois this director wants to meet with her? Right,
So she goes back to La for that.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
And she meets with her for something she didn't write,
claiming it's she did write it, which is fucked up,
but sure, like what's going on? Then she's given a
thing by Logan that starts with hey, if you're watching this,
I'm dead, and he's like, I found out in that
call that I.

Speaker 3 (01:17:53):
Had metasticized lung cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Lung cancer and it was like wait, wait, wait what
so what the And he does this whole stupid like
trope where he's like so I just thought it would
be better for us not to be together, which like.

Speaker 3 (01:18:08):
From her.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:18:13):
Rom comma.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
But also you're a thirty five year old man, like
if you love someone, you wouldn't that's that you wouldn't
really why wouldn't he Just crazy O.

Speaker 3 (01:18:22):
Her, He's like, I will brutally hurt her feelings.

Speaker 6 (01:18:25):
Yeah, it'll make her feel like better trash for the
times she.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Still loves you, Like it doesn't change. It's just like
now you go and both don't get to enjoy each
other before you die whatever anyway, But then she's actually
at some awards.

Speaker 5 (01:18:39):
Bank, sorry to go back. It's like an airbud when
he needs the dog to go away. He's like shoe show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
And he he stands up and tells everyone that he
it was a big oopsie that it was actually just bronchitis.

Speaker 3 (01:19:00):
Which I was so infuriated.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah I was. I have never been angry. I'm like, look, look, bitch,
if if even if it's it is, and it is
because I did look it up that like, oh yes,
you can look at in an X ray and it
like looks similar in an X ray. I guess betems
bronchiest lung cancer does Doctors don't go to lung cancer
before checking out if it's bronchitis. That's not what happens. Also,

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it is like, so.

Speaker 7 (01:19:24):
We've been on her about evoking the rhythms of comedy
without actually being funny. This is even worse. She evoked
all the emotion, like tried to evoke the sympathy and
emotions that come with such an awful diagnosis, and then was.

Speaker 4 (01:19:38):
Like psych bad doctor confused, like.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Conquences revealed. He's giving a speech just about Emma Wheeler
to a group of people who don't know, like no
one's ever heard of her, and he's like accepting an
awar and his speech is about how much it doesn't
make loved her.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Yeah, it's that that is really crazy. And then I
have to also say, like there were earlier points in
the book where she was like teaching him about rom coms,
and you know, in his original script the couple didn't
get together, and she's like, no, people come for the
couple to get together, like it's not about.

Speaker 6 (01:20:18):
Your interesting thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:19):
And that felt like she was setting up a checkobs gun,
but she was actually setting up a different checkobs gun,
which she like directly referenced of saying that she liked
his eyebrows or elbows or nostrils, and she.

Speaker 6 (01:20:39):
Was like, of course, bear with me, We've been through
a lot here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
I did tell him, I like, is nostrils that's.

Speaker 6 (01:20:48):
A real checkobs gun.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
And I don't know if that like banter about them
needing to end up together was like intentionally misleading. I
think it actually may have been intentionally misleading. And then
that just it made them ending up together less interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
I wanted him to die, I agree, not just because
the obvious reasons, but it would have been so unexpected. Yeah,
you know this book. So when he was coughing so much,
I was like, this guy's gonna die, right, Yeah, I
mean I didn't really believe it would happened, but I
had allergies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah I was coughing that much from allergy. Fucking kidding me,
doesn't make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Yeah, yeah, I too wanted that, and I thought that's
how they would not end up together.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:21:42):
It's almost so disappointing that they set up like this
obvious romance at the very beginning, and then at the end,
wouldn't you know it does work.

Speaker 4 (01:21:48):
Out for them?

Speaker 7 (01:21:49):
Like I would have had so much more fun if
like while she was delayed at the airport, like she
like ran into a TSA worker, just like all of
a sudden end of the book, it's like, and reader,
I'm married him.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
Honestly, like I think it would have been even I mean,
not that it would have been less predictable, but if
there had been a love triangle with the ex wife,
maybe that would have been more interesting. It's just like
not interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:22:14):
Yeah, it was still good. I loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:20):
And of course then it's like a Shakespearean comedy where
it's like everyone's married at the end, like everyone's parried
off and we're all happy. Even my dad had a secret,
you know woman to marry. Yeah, yeah, nobody asked. So
now I don't have to be feel bad. I'm not caretaking.
Yeah she is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
Also I know, was it miss so Cassahaka? And she
raises her grandson and the end it was like, turns
out he also had two younger twin sisters.

Speaker 6 (01:22:56):
And it's like they didn't have to be a surprise
at the end, no.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
Investment in them, what like they just want more people
to squeeze into those tiny I don't know why, but
they did.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
I feel like she feels the need to say that
marriage doesn't have to be the happy ending.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
So she does.

Speaker 3 (01:23:15):
She's like, marriage doesn't have to be the happy ending.
Sometimes it is.

Speaker 1 (01:23:19):
Okay, oh wait, it was Houston. Sorry now remember I
think it was Houston. She says, they go back, Charlie
and her go back every summer, like as those screenwriters
have their summers off. Okay, and they spend it in Houston.
And it's like, no, they don't. I heard he has
a mansi with a pool. They do not go stay
in a tiny apartment for a few months. They don't

(01:23:43):
do that. I'm sorry. Now, what's happening?

Speaker 6 (01:23:46):
The Houston's not on the coast, right, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:23:50):
So where's this beach?

Speaker 6 (01:23:52):
It's a lake beach.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
Should know, I flew into Houston last year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
Also, listeners, just so you know the reason that Sylvia
was at the beach just because her and her boyfriend
were getting engaged.

Speaker 6 (01:24:06):
And that didn't matter to Emma.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
All right, let's take it back. Houston is close. There
is a beach. Somebody's screaming at us, so I have
to admit that stair beach?

Speaker 5 (01:24:18):
What's Johonnath saying through gritted teeth, redneck Riviera, grow up, Jalston.

Speaker 1 (01:24:27):
All right, fine they went to the beach. It's fine, Yeah,
they win.

Speaker 3 (01:24:34):
I guess fine, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
She can have that, Fine, she can have it. Fine, Fine, Fine,
you could.

Speaker 6 (01:24:41):
Get to the beach from Houston.

Speaker 1 (01:24:43):
All right, all right, I guess yes.

Speaker 6 (01:24:46):
We're shouting dumber as every moment.

Speaker 1 (01:24:50):
We need to stop. I'm so sorry. Not a good
point to make, all right, this book, I don't know,
is anything anybody needs to talk about. Oh yeah, the
dad fell down the because he was trying to get
some Yeah, oh yeah, it was a reveal that it
was he was trying to go on a date with
the missus Osaka, which she didn't say. Why did the
sister not say that? Why did the sister say a

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seven year old called nine one one like, it's like, no, no,
he was on a date with someone, Like why wouldn't
you say that? Why would you instead be like, well,
I left to go to the beach, bosel blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Anyway, she probably was embarrassed that she let dad go
on a date.

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
She wasn't allowed to stray from the rules.

Speaker 5 (01:25:28):
You know, you have to you have to let it.

Speaker 1 (01:25:31):
Yeah, I guess also we find out the rom commerce
was successful. That's another thing that we find Oh yeah, let.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
The blog or whatever record box office sales speak for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
Because we know how much people love movies about writers,
Like that's yes, what you know?

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
The King's speech was pretty good?

Speaker 1 (01:25:53):
Okay, that one wrote the speech.

Speaker 7 (01:25:55):
That's about the I guess if you off any movies
about a writer.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
At one point, as I was reading this, I was thinking, like,
this is written to be in middling Netflix movie. And
then I flipped the back cover and yeah, but most
like she's had a couple.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
Of books have become I'll gobble them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
I would watch.

Speaker 5 (01:26:19):
That's not the point Emily was making, Sabrina.

Speaker 4 (01:26:22):
Maybe you could make anything out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:26:24):
Though I'm not insulted. I could never be.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
Yeah, yeah, my, yeah, my bug. Other biggest criticism is
for two writers there. They weren't neurotic in the right ways.
The characters like it didn't match with what I know
of writers or people.

Speaker 5 (01:26:47):
I think we could replace the more people with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
Me right, as Emily pointed out already, Yeah, I don't know.
Do we have any improduct we want to do or outliner?

Speaker 6 (01:27:03):
Well I put one in there, Okay, but.

Speaker 7 (01:27:07):
We run low on time, I would say, so, if
you're excited about it, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Oh you know, okay, yeah, I just realized we didn't
talk about how she tried to give her printed out
uh screenplay on Mermaids.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
To the dumb dumb, dumb, dumb du that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:25):
It was so dumb it was insane. I guess we
maybe mentioned it. Oh whatever, but that was just insane.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
All right, we want to get a to go to
we have an answer as the.

Speaker 4 (01:27:36):
Author, I would love to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
Oh, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
Catherine, what's your favorite fruit and give me a little
more detail.

Speaker 7 (01:27:46):
Well, it's me Catherine, and I have found that most
people love the sort of whitish flesh of the honeydew melon,
So not a yeen honeydew melon, but the area really
close to the outside, outer edge of the melon that's
just white. It has a really thick, rich texture, and

(01:28:10):
I've eaten it many, many times, and I know that
the way you eat it is you take a fork
and you cut through the rind of the outside of
the melon and you're able to spoon out a big
bite of it. And that's the way that I enjoy
eating it, and I've had fruit many.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Times, so quirky, Catherine.

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
Catherine, what's your favorite fruit? And give me a little
more detail.

Speaker 3 (01:28:37):
I love our red delicious apple because it's red and
it's waxy and I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:51):
Beautiful, Catherine, what's your favorite fruit? And give me a
little more detail.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
My favorite fruit I like a peach, but not just
any peach. My favorite fruit is a canned peach. I
love opening the cans. It really makes me feel like
I accomplished something. And I the.

Speaker 6 (01:29:17):
Fruit, and that's it. We're all setting no path. What's
your favorite fruit? And give me a little more detail.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Well, every writer has a snack to sort of procrastinate
and just sort of john while they're thinking. And I
happen to be a romantic comedy writer. And what's more
romantic than a chocolate dipped strawberry?

Speaker 6 (01:29:48):
Very good?

Speaker 7 (01:29:50):
And just as a reminder, I sent Clara chocolate strawberries
one time.

Speaker 4 (01:29:54):
Sorry, but.

Speaker 5 (01:29:56):
I did remember that. As I was talking.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
It was like a call that quick.

Speaker 1 (01:30:00):
All right, okay, what's the answer.

Speaker 2 (01:30:03):
Well, the I would say, none of you were close.

Speaker 1 (01:30:11):
I win.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
The answer is her favorite food fruit is figs, but
she's allergic to them.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
No, no, Catherine so fucking stupid.

Speaker 6 (01:30:32):
It is really good, and I got so much.

Speaker 2 (01:30:34):
I can relate because pork was my favorite food, but
I'm allergic to it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
Yeah, but was it hers and then she became allergic?
Or is she just being fucking annoying?

Speaker 6 (01:30:45):
There's no further detail.

Speaker 5 (01:30:48):
I think we know the answer to my question. She's
perfect teenager siting Shakespeare have the same fucking favorite food.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
And it.

Speaker 6 (01:31:02):
Is that Shakespeare's favorite fruit.

Speaker 5 (01:31:04):
I'm just saying it's another annoying thing.

Speaker 6 (01:31:07):
Weirdly know, I forgot. I didn't look up five star reviews.
It's the end of that sentence.

Speaker 1 (01:31:25):
All right, It's fine, we're gonna do them now. Everybody's
grabbing one and we're gonna We're not everybody, but you know, if.

Speaker 4 (01:31:34):
You've earned it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
This is from val. She says, timing really is everything.
And this was exactly the book I needed right now.
It was sad, wistful, joyful, and happy, and in my opinion,
just the right amount of sappy. It exemplified why I
love this author even when some of her books don't
land for me, because when they do, it's all worth it.
The characters, angst banter. I loved every second of this

(01:31:59):
five stars.

Speaker 5 (01:32:00):
Your voice there for that one was perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:32:04):
The like, don't understand what she means by timing? Really
is everything just time in her life, I think, But
she didn't talk about that at all.

Speaker 5 (01:32:12):
Well that's personal.

Speaker 1 (01:32:15):
Well weird to bring it up and not talk about it.

Speaker 6 (01:32:18):
Okay, go ahead from Benedicta.

Speaker 2 (01:32:21):
The title of this, well actually it's five stars, but
she does in her title say four point five and
then star funniest book I've read this year.

Speaker 6 (01:32:33):
Uh sweating face gold medal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Nothing like line dancing to force you to confront that
you never fully mastered your left from your right. The
romance was satisfying, and the comedy was even more satisfying.

Speaker 1 (01:32:46):
Haha.

Speaker 6 (01:32:47):
I didn't expect the latter to be so literal.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
The chemistry and witty banter was everything heart on fire.
And then there's a description of the book, and then
and this cover is horrendous, so I'm probably going to
be obsessed with the book.

Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Oh my god, this is I've got somebody named Halle
who liked it. She said, infinity stars. This practically jumped
off the shelf and into my hands. Translation. I like
the cover so much that I immediately grabbed it. I'm
choosing to see this as a heart sign because I
desperately need the messages in this book at the exact
moment I received them. Things I love about the story.

(01:33:31):
It was so authentically human, lighthearted, traffic, romance was perfect,
jokes made me laugh, made in comedy. Oh my god,
this was my first Catherine said, the cover is scary.

Speaker 6 (01:33:50):
I think I have no qualms with the cover.

Speaker 4 (01:33:54):
It looks like the redheaded Emma.

Speaker 7 (01:33:57):
Why she looks scary, vamp higher like, she looks like she's.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
The What the cover looks so plain to me? What
does it look like to you? Is it? Is she
wearing like.

Speaker 7 (01:34:08):
Yeah, the vampire woman who looks like she's ninety but
trying to play an eighteen year old.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
And no, I don't see this, am I looking at this?
The right thing? Just looks really scared.

Speaker 7 (01:34:21):
Her face looks like really tight, like her skin is
pulled really taut, you know, like she's had like a
lot of work done.

Speaker 1 (01:34:27):
Yeah. Wait, that's what mine looks like, Emily, No, that's
what I'm looking at.

Speaker 2 (01:34:31):
Well, he is darker skinned in the print book than
he is on the online.

Speaker 4 (01:34:36):
Isn't a picture. She's not a movie star.

Speaker 7 (01:34:38):
He's not Jack Spade or whatever Jack Stapleton is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
This supposed to be her dress, but she's not wearing heels.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
And also, yeah, and that's definitely not what the dress
looked like. The person who made this cover art did
not read the book.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
My got Also I forgot that he took the dress
she was wearing when she was drunk and ripped it
and made it into a handkerchief. Sorry, that was I
hated that. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 5 (01:35:05):
A lot of material probably could have made something in handkerchief,
big old hanky.

Speaker 1 (01:35:09):
Yeah. Also like it wasn't yours to make a handkerchief
out of.

Speaker 5 (01:35:13):
I don't know what are you my coffin blood? You're
going to ruin those.

Speaker 1 (01:35:16):
You're not together. It's so weird.

Speaker 7 (01:35:19):
There's really like one fabric you want to use on
your face too. It's generally like a lotion infused tissue.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Not like rayon from the summer dress.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
With like sequence. All right, do you guys want to
do hate rapes?

Speaker 12 (01:35:35):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (01:35:36):
Yeah, I'm gonna go one out of five it would
be Zero's a very very bad book, but I think
it was bad in a way that led us have
both fun conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:35:47):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:50):
I'm gonna give five to the recommender, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
It's not something we usually do, but interesting, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (01:35:55):
Gonna give three to the book.

Speaker 7 (01:35:57):
It's kind of a rite down the middle for me,
definitely fund to talk about. Well, that kind of already
gave credit for that in the first five star rating,
so let's just not get down to two point five.

Speaker 6 (01:36:06):
No, no, no take backs.

Speaker 7 (01:36:08):
Yes, as is our rule, once you've said a number,
that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
I'll give it a two out of five. Yeah, I
did not. I didn't like this. I think, particularly when
anything tells me it's comedy and it is not funny,
it really really, uh pisses me off. So it pissed
me off. But I guess it was pretty quick to
get through and I could remember what happened, so I

(01:36:36):
guess for the most part, so that that's a plus.
That's a plus. Uh, but yeah, it's I don't I
don't understand who this is for, So two out of five.

Speaker 3 (01:36:48):
I'll go with a one out of five. Well, I
feel like your scales are different. You read so many
bid books. I obviously only read good ones, but.

Speaker 4 (01:36:58):
Your delicate palette is usually exposed to that.

Speaker 3 (01:37:01):
Exactly it was upsetting, but like, there are multiple times
where I stopped reading this book to like groan before
I continued. Because but I will give it a one
because I agree that it was memorable to talk about,
you know, because it was so dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:37:17):
But i'll give it the worst writing. I can't because
it was memorable.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
Okay, I'm going to go three point seven five, I think,
which might be lower than you thought I was gonna
give it.

Speaker 5 (01:37:30):
Yeah, but the this is with me.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
Yeah, well it's you know, it's not quite a three
point five, not quite a four, I think.

Speaker 6 (01:37:38):
I really, I really liked the writing. I thought it
was fun.

Speaker 2 (01:37:42):
It was like, you know, not that I had time
to put it down, based on when I started and
when we were recording. But if I had had time,
I don't think I would have put it down.

Speaker 13 (01:37:54):
Yeah, I just I enjoyed it.

Speaker 6 (01:37:58):
I liked the story.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
I wanted more more chili peppers, you know, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:38:06):
But you said it three times and mention that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
Chili peppies is what I would like, And I would
have liked a better ending. I thought it was to
use a phrase that Catherine might herself use.

Speaker 6 (01:38:21):
It was a little weak sauce, you know, we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:38:23):
Hear all right, now time for we all gave yes?

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Okay, before we vote for little fucker, I just want
to remind you all that we're in a rare situation
where the person who made you read this you could
vote for.

Speaker 6 (01:38:49):
I'm not saying you should. I'm just saying you couldn't.

Speaker 5 (01:38:53):
Do you feel like you're wow, that was quite an attach.
What you could do is just vote yourself and say why.

Speaker 4 (01:39:01):
But perhaps you solidified my little fucker in that moment.

Speaker 3 (01:39:05):
Someone gave me a perfect reason.

Speaker 6 (01:39:07):
I think I know we go both.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
I feel like I need to vote for JOHNA. I
can't hear words.

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
Get her.

Speaker 5 (01:39:22):
I know you guys are all recording in the same room,
but that makes me jealous. And then that the solution
was like, well, just.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
That is essentially what is you know?

Speaker 11 (01:39:33):
Yeah, because I think SOO is like blocks out your vocals.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
There have been many times I haven't I haven't heard
what Johnna said. Didn't have just gone God, that's something
we could have adjusted.

Speaker 5 (01:39:52):
I made a note at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
We could have I heard enough. I heard, I heard
most of the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:00):
Sarah doesn't he most.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
Yeah, I was like, I think it was that I
was only one. Sarah was very convincing performance because I
looked to you and I was like, all right, I
guess I.

Speaker 4 (01:40:10):
Knew I want to Well, I just knew.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
They said they had tried it out and tested it,
so I was like, I'm gonna let this. I mean,
it's not for me, it's everyone else needs to hear it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:21):
Incapable of like figuring out.

Speaker 12 (01:40:23):
The audio logistics, like you can't be like, oh, they
said they tried it out. It was kind of hard
to hear the talk about yeah, look, look this is
not the listener should still be hearing, Johanna, she should
be crisp, she should.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Sep One's directly responding to her no.

Speaker 3 (01:40:47):
Laughter, said I tried.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
That's why. That's why I tried to give the laughter,
because I thought I knew. I knew, I knew jokes
were happening, and.

Speaker 5 (01:41:00):
It's still going on. So we don't know how he
exactly reacted to this.

Speaker 13 (01:41:03):
You look shocked, Jenna actually said much in this we
wouldn't said, yeah, it's unairable, my little fucker.

Speaker 2 (01:41:15):
Sarah, I really came out that you are.

Speaker 4 (01:41:20):
Very close to my friend. You were dancing on the
nice side.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
I can't believe I got that. I can't believe I
got that. I could have just said I wasn't laughing.

Speaker 7 (01:41:29):
That would be so much for so I was going
to a little fake laught sometimes would it?

Speaker 1 (01:41:36):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:41:37):
Just like the book wanted?

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Oh? So the fact that I assumed what you were
saying was funny is makes me the bad guy.

Speaker 4 (01:41:45):
Now I can't you can't trust well.

Speaker 5 (01:41:47):
It wasn't like you assumed it was funny, assumed it
was like polite, you know, like he gave her like
little life.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
I assumed it would sound weird if there was. She
was saying jokes and getting nothing right.

Speaker 5 (01:42:01):
But it's not like they were satisfying like good joke
feeling you gave.

Speaker 7 (01:42:05):
I feel like, like i'll make a wish guest on
the pod.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
I feel like I must have done a good job
if she didn't notice, Like, no, you did do a
good job.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
It's true. I assumed you guys had like all talked
about it and this was the best we could do.
And it seems like Sarah can kind of years.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
You did kind of well.

Speaker 4 (01:42:23):
I couldn't hear you, Clara, what do.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
Let's just I have a confession, which is that there
was one point where John I made a joke and
I didn't hear it, but I laughed really hard because I.

Speaker 6 (01:42:36):
Could tell that it was really funny. And I don't
know what it was.

Speaker 5 (01:42:43):
With her, So it's not a mic issue.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
You just your christ We've been laughing at job of
this all.

Speaker 2 (01:42:49):
I couldn't ask because it would have disrupted the flow
and made it less funny.

Speaker 4 (01:42:54):
Exactly she was, I'm joking. I don't know she did.

Speaker 3 (01:43:03):
This nightmare for me.

Speaker 6 (01:43:06):
It was just one. It was just one and everything else.

Speaker 1 (01:43:09):
I mean, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
What is way too many, and that's what Sarah and
Clara were doing the entire time.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
None of you can be I didn't laugh was genuine.

Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
I'm sorry, but.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
You have such credibility that we know that it's worth laughing.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
I wouldn't want the listener to hear a bad joke
be made in me to laugh at it as though
I think it's funny, like I wouldn't want them to happen.
So I feel like what I did was a compliment,
and I'm I'm pissed that it was not taking as much.

Speaker 7 (01:43:51):
I feel like I'm and it's I really do, and
also like you guys, realize the listeners like hate me already,
Like I'm like, already the hated figure of the cast.

Speaker 1 (01:44:01):
That's me.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
It's not true.

Speaker 5 (01:44:03):
I think there was one email meet as.

Speaker 3 (01:44:06):
You can speak to the listener perspective. Yeah, my own
bias against John to seep into this.

Speaker 6 (01:44:16):
I have the hated one.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
I don't think anyone's the hated one.

Speaker 5 (01:44:20):
There was one email that was like, it took me
the longest to warm up to Joanna, and she's taken
it very hard.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
And then there's just some that ask if Sabrina is real.
That's more the question.

Speaker 6 (01:44:34):
We could, Yeah, doing a bit. No bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
Is me?

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
I have bad taste Emily and Sabrina.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
Have you guys?

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
I haven't voted. I will vote for Sarah, okay. And
my reasoning is, if you hadn't moved away, this audio
thing wouldn't even be happening.

Speaker 6 (01:45:05):
You would have helped us through all of it.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
We would have you know, we're fine though. I think
we figured it out. I think this is gonna sound good, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:45:14):
We just have to meet johna every time. I think
we solve the problem. Is she laughing or crying?

Speaker 6 (01:45:21):
I think it's I think she's taken a turn.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
She trumping down.

Speaker 1 (01:45:28):
Okay, so that's two for me anybody else.

Speaker 3 (01:45:32):
I'm just gonna say, it was real pleasure to be
on the cast, and I obviously have to vote for
It's so hard not to vote for Jina. But but
the thing is, I just I don't have a reason.
I tried to. If Sabrina hadn't come out against me,
I would have found one against Joanna. But now I

(01:45:54):
have to vote for Sabrina.

Speaker 6 (01:45:55):
That's fair. Not that I didn't vote for you.

Speaker 5 (01:45:57):
I was just it's it's almost worse.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:46:02):
You put it out there.

Speaker 2 (01:46:03):
Yeah, I was trying to bait them, and now for
a little princess, and I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
We're not. Excuse me, We're not. We've not finished little fucker.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
Yeah, we don't know who it is.

Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
We try to get to little princess. Okay, Sabrina is
my little fucker.

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
You already voted.

Speaker 5 (01:46:21):
I did not, she didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
They did not. Because I've been trying to get her
to be a little fucker this whole season, and now.

Speaker 13 (01:46:33):
You've been trying to get me to be a little
fucker the whole season.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
I just couldn't. I couldn't because you weren't here. So now, finally, finally.

Speaker 6 (01:46:42):
So we're we're gonna tie right now.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
So we need so Chi.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Votes for Sarah, Chivas for Sabrina, and.

Speaker 5 (01:46:48):
I voted Claire, which seems mean.

Speaker 1 (01:46:53):
Now, so I guess Brina and I are little fucker.

Speaker 4 (01:46:56):
Don't try to move your votes.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
I guess I'll take pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:47:00):
I was just going to try to rally.

Speaker 1 (01:47:01):
It's fine. I'll take little fucker because what happened to
John is just so funny. None of it matters, all right,
Little Princess, I think it's usually it could well, uh, probably.

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
It could be me or Clara, right.

Speaker 14 (01:47:17):
I was gonna second one second, Emily, I would love
to hear your perspective on Little Princess and how it
feels like from the listener.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Mm hmm, it feels pretty unfair. And also I need
Little Princess to be defined a little better.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:47:37):
It's just something.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
We'll take it under advicement for next season.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Partially.

Speaker 4 (01:47:41):
There's nothing we can do at this time.

Speaker 7 (01:47:44):
Those laughs I can't even trust now, like literally, I
just you guys laughed, and then I got my head
and went like staring into the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
I don't know what you said.

Speaker 3 (01:47:52):
I honestly don't know what you mean at that time.

Speaker 5 (01:47:57):
So she's lasting really hard.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Now, yeah, I don't know what you said.

Speaker 6 (01:48:03):
Well, I think we can agree that I'm the little princess.

Speaker 5 (01:48:05):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
I don't need it actually, all right, guys, we are
mean book Club, mean book Club and on the socials.

Speaker 6 (01:48:14):
Please don't need it.

Speaker 11 (01:48:16):
Just to be clear, I guess that was a little
aggressive of me, wasn't it. It's not a purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
Please check out Patreon. You can get episodes without any ads.
That's very exciting. Please let us know what books you
want us to read. That our New York Times bestsellers.
Please link us to the goddamn link. Please please don't
trick us again. Please please do this for us.

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
Remember such a straw word.

Speaker 1 (01:48:53):
Please for the help us, Just help us, help us.

Speaker 5 (01:48:57):
Who wouldn't want to help us giving us a damage.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
We've damaged our brains for you for your entertainment. We
damage our brains. What this is the last one of
the season, So yeah, I guess we're going to have
to go back to the drawing board and pick out
a bunch of new books.

Speaker 5 (01:49:12):
So well, patreonal some space and we'll do it.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
Well. We will have an upcoming bonus Patreon.

Speaker 2 (01:49:21):
But we should do happinesses for beginners. It's a Catherine
Center book that became I don't want to we already did.

Speaker 6 (01:49:31):
Or the Missing Husband or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
That's another one that I like, this idea.

Speaker 9 (01:49:38):
That I will discuss it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:52):
It looks like we pretended to talk but wasn't making any.

Speaker 1 (01:49:56):
But also, you, guys, if you give us more money
via Patreon or whatever, we can get better equipment. Guys,
we can get a bottle.

Speaker 3 (01:50:08):
It might not be resources.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
Yeah, it's a user error.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
She could hire well, if you give us more money,
we could hire more competent.

Speaker 7 (01:50:19):
Can we create a patriot here? That's like you can
replace one person of your choosing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
That's so funny, John, we should do that.

Speaker 4 (01:50:30):
Hundred dollars you can not out.

Speaker 6 (01:50:34):
That's such a low amount.

Speaker 4 (01:50:38):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:39):
I know my mom won't knock out Sabrina. She was
upset all season that you've been gone. My mom, where's Sabrina?

Speaker 3 (01:50:47):
I'm not sure if I's been relaying my.

Speaker 6 (01:50:49):
Texts she has not?

Speaker 5 (01:50:54):
The group?

Speaker 6 (01:50:54):
Thanks, all right, well be insulted.

Speaker 1 (01:50:59):
All right, we'll see you guys soon. We love you, Bye,
good Bye.

Speaker 2 (01:51:04):
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