April 2, 2024 • 49 mins
Cringey wedding speeches! Graveyard sex! Jenn and Priscilla dive into Plus One and discuss who is more annoying: Ben or Alice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Same. I'm up up to Texas hold them right now,
so very early.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
I want to hear that one and the other one
I've been here. I'm seeing a lot of memes about.
Is the Joline one too?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mm hmm, I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Welcome to Meet Cute, a podcast for friends. Jenavrs and
Priscilla Wilson get together to discuss all things from coms
from the classics to the latest releases. We'll be diving
deep into the world of romantic comedies. Okay, we're talking
about Plus one today.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
M hmmmm. This is your choice.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
This is my choice. This is a twenty nineteen movie.
Mm hm. And I'm gonna read you the exact little
blurb that when I saw it, I was like, yep,
that's the blurb of how do you how you describe
this movie? It's longtime single friends agree to be each
other's plus one at every wedding they are invited.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To basically, and they're invited to many weddings, many, way
too many, way too many.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I feel like I don't I don't even know
that many people. This was even pre pandemic, so it's
not like they could even put it as like a
pandemic thing. So like, yeah, I don't know that many people,
and that many people that are in the marriage stages
that will do it right then and.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There, right, I was gonna say, I don't have that
many friends to where I'm going to ten weddings in
the year A granted like half and half like half
of hers, half for his, but even still like five
weddings in a year, that's that's a lot pre pandemic.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well maybe, I mean, I mean, yes, whatever, but they
we have here. Jack Quaid is the main character who
is Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan's son, and he is
really cute.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He is cute, and he looks a lot like his dad.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, a lot of smiles that remind me of.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yes, it's random of smiles, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But I kind of think he has the rom com
quirkiness of Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He owed that movie in my opinion, like, I think
he did well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, I liked him and I love her. Yeah, yes,
Alice Maya Erskin furst kind. I don't know how to
say her last nay, but I've seen her in a
few things and she's very good, very funny.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I agree. I don't know if I have seen her.
I let's put it this, but I haven't seen either
of them. I know they've been in different things, but
I'm not I think she's also in this in that
new movie, mister and missus Smith.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, the it's a show. Oh, it's a show,
a series on Amazon Prime. He was just in Oppenheimer.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I saw. I didn't see him. I haven't seen the
movie actually, so yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
He's got like a minor role. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Another point. And I know this is twenty nineteen versus
anyone but You that came out last year. But I
think this movie is better. And I think this movie
restores or brings rom coms back in my opinion, my
humble opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
If we're comparing the two, yes plus one is much better,
much better in terms of like bringing back the wrong
com Yeah, like yeah, anyone but you. I wouldn't say
was the revival of rom coms. I definitely do not
look at it as that kind of movie. Plus one
(04:34):
was very understated, not long at all, like it was
I don't know, it didn't need to do a lot.
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, because the story per se and the premise of it,
like there wasn't anything new, anything crazy, which again just
comparing to anyone but you. I think that like overdid
it in the sense of like when the whole family
was involved in at shit. Yeah, there was no scheme exactly.
(05:06):
This almost just two people doing their thing. Nobody butted in, right, No,
I'm trying to think nobody really butted in at all.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, because their goal was very not boring, but just
matter of fact, two single people who just didn't want
to have to face all these freaking weddings alone. Yeah,
so who better you don't have a partner, Who better
to bring as a plus one than a very good
(05:36):
friend of you. I will say though, in the beginning
of this movie, I did not like him. I didn't
like Ben tell me more. I thought he was kind
of a bad friend. So in the beginning of the movie,
they are already at a wedding of friends of theirs
(05:59):
I'm guessing from, and he is reading her the speech
that he's made for this wedding, and she's just gone
through a breakup, so she's drinking heavily. She's giving him advice,
kind of like joking with him about his very passive
(06:19):
aggressive speech by the way, because she's right. She was like,
nobody wants to hear you're like pedophilic jealousy speech. So
he switches it up and it's a success whatever. By
the time he gets to the singles table, she's like
blackout drunk. She's dancing on the dance floor by herself.
(06:44):
He's embarrassed of her, which I don't think she's doing
anything like too crazy, Like, yeah, reel her in a
little bit, but she's not being this asshole that's screaming,
that's angry, that's you know, getting people's faces. She's just
you know, a little much. The fact that he like
(07:06):
denied their friendship. When he's outside with Jess Ramsey, he's like,
we're not even that close, like, and she keeps asking him,
shouldn't you, you know, take care of your friend. She's
pretty drunk, and he's just like left her to fend
for himself. What kind of what kind of gentleman is that?
(07:29):
Like I get, I get he's got an agenda for
this one girl, but like, I don't know, if your
girlfriend is completely obliterated, make sure she gets to the hotel,
you know what I mean, like in her room, you
never know. So I just wrote a note. I was like,
(07:50):
he's a bad friend, bad friend.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's very valid, that's very valid. Funny enough, I have
the complete opposite view. So it was so funny when
you said it, because I was like, wait what Because
I have the complete opposite view. I don't disagree with
the fact that he could have been a better friend
(08:15):
in that moment, but I didn't like her at the beginning.
So for me, the shift happened pre damn dating and
post damn dating. So pre damn dating, I think she
was so sloppy, just drunk, and I get it she
just went through a breakup, but she was just too
like unhinged. And then he was sort of more normal
(08:38):
to me in the sense of like it was just
sort of selfish of what he wanted to get before
he saw there was a possibility with his friend. So
and then post dating, he went and turned into this,
like and they make a comment about it in the movie,
I'm one of the good guys. And then she to
(09:01):
me seemed more like level headed, like and I liked
her more. But yeah, so I that's funny that that
you said that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, in general, I'm not his biggest fan. Okay, I
don't hate him. I just wasn't a big fan of him. Yes,
he's very selfish, like you said.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't know, like he just the way he is
with her. And then like, I understand what you're saying
about her being sloppy and everything like that, But to me, again,
it wasn't out of control. I wouldn't say. I could
see how it could be annoying, especially if you are
the sober person trying to reel that person in. But
(09:50):
she was funny and endearing to me. The one time
that I was like that, I looked at her differently
and was like, nah, girl, you're the one in the
wrong here, Like you're the shitty person in this scenario
was when they go to the engagement party and she
(10:11):
forgets the gift. Because it's not so much that she
forgot the gift. I kind of don't care about it either,
but just her attitude about it. She was kind of
being a brat, So I don't think she was in
the right there. I think their conversation afterwards, like yeah,
(10:32):
he's shitty for what he was like doing, but she
was a total brat about it. So I did not
like her in that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was like, mmmmmmmm, I kid you not. When I
was telling you earlier, like the split, I remember that
scene because they were already dating, and I one hundred
percent agree with you she was so shitty because again
I agree with her in the sense of like I
wouldn't us about forgetting the gift, but she was so
(11:03):
so shitty to him.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
She's very I mean they both were kind of passive aggressive,
but you know he's talking about I like giving someone
a gift to their face. I can see them enjoy it.
I can, you know, see their reaction, and like he's
kind of a stickler about it. But then when when
(11:27):
she gets to the guys and you know, congratulates them,
she tells them what it is, she kind of makes
these comments like it was it was dickish behavior.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely agree. Yeah, So I feel like compare to him,
like like she had more things like that for me.
That I was like, girl, calm down, a little sloppy,
a little too much, but overall he wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, he definitely has intimacy issues.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know if I would call what he has
grasses greener syndrome, but he definitely, I don't know, he's
looking for the soulmate and yeah, is ready to burn
bridges at I don't know. He like all his friends
were like, you have impossible standards, You're not happy with anybody.
(12:24):
You find every little reason to break up with somebody.
Intimacy issues. I mean, you see the relationship he has
with his dad and the whole backstory of that whole thing,
and the dad's been married a couple times and now
he's getting married again, starting a whole new family. So
I understand where Bend's fear of commitment comes from. I
(12:48):
don't dislike them as a couple, that's it. I don't
dislike them as a couple. I don't think they're this
great love story, like they're cute, but it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because it's almost
like this needs to be said. Yeah, I agree with you.
I don't dislike them, but I don't love them. I like,
I think when I loved them the most was or
liked them the most. Let me clarify, was that whole
(13:26):
after pool situation, you know, walking back to the hotel,
the graveyard, little intimacy moment. Like I think that's the
only time I liked them. But other than that, I
didn't hate them.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, that that sequence, And I thought they were great
in Hawaii. They were cute.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They were cute. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I wasn't rooting for them, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,
it was like a if you guys work out, that's great.
If you don't, it's also great, I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, actually that I now that you say that,
I'm like, I think I would have been fine if
this would have been a twist, and it would have
it would have not ended up together. Like I recently
watched another movie like this, it literally dated end up together,
and it gave me the same feeling I'm feeling right now,
which is like, yeah, it's fine, they didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, I feel very neutral about it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let me ask you something, mm hmm. So they start
dating and they go to her sister's wedding and they're
at her house and it's you know, it's very family oriented.
Ben gets all weird around her ex, texting her and
(14:52):
the picture coming up in the collage that he was
working on with his DA with her dad of her
and her ex. Well, part of me wan too like
understand and be like, yeah, I can't understand why he
felt that way. Part of me is also like what happened?
So like, I don't know, do you have any thoughts
on that part? Because I was just kind of like,
why was his mood so bothered by the fact that, like,
(15:14):
she did date someone. You are aware of this before.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't know if he was bothered about the fact
that she has an ex. I don't really know what
it is. I mean, he brings up this bullshit excuse
when they're outside at outside of the engagement party, and
when when he starts initiating this basically breakup conversation with
(15:41):
her at this event, which like what the fuck? But
he he first of all tells her that he doesn't
know if he loves her, which okay, he brings up.
He brings up her ex and says that he doesn't
(16:01):
want them to get far enough into this to where
he ends up hurting her like her ex like Nate
m that it would kill him if he did that
to her. I just I don't really get that. It
seems like a very grasping at Straw's moment because you're
(16:25):
having doubts and you're trying to back out of this
thing because of whatever issues you have, but you're trying
to make it seem like a valid reason. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because that was
really shitty to say. And I don't know, like I
guess I don't know what the right terminology is here,
but it was kind of like he was I do
agree with her Like that hurts more because almost like
you're coming into the relationship like almost like just like
(16:59):
I'll normally expect thing that you may hurt me. I
don't know how to explain it, but it sort of
gives me that vibe of like, yeah, it hurts me
more because you're actually thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, we only just started this, and already in your
mind we're doing like he went into this thinking they
were doomed to begin with and that's shitty. Yeah, that
whole conversation was just painful to watch, Like, yeah, very cringey.
(17:31):
I don't blame her for storming off, because I would
too if a man said that to you, Jen where
you guys were a thing and he's like, I don't know,
I don't know if I love you, I can feel
you settling in I can you know, Like he's saying
all this stuff and then whatever it ends, and then
(17:55):
he tries to do like this grand gesture and say
that he of you, and like whatever, would you give
this dude a second chance?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know, because part of me, the hopeless romantic
side of me, is like, wow, somebody realizing that they
want to be with me, that's a big like wow,
you know, But on the same at this, on the
same thread, somebody realized or somebody saying that they don't
(18:26):
want to be with me, or that they are afraid
of how close I'm getting, you know, that's settling in
line or or whatnot, Like that's that's painful. So it's
almost like it's it's like getting rejected getting rejected irl,
you know, almost like I don't know, because I think
(18:47):
there had to be there would have to be more. Yeah,
in her case, I will. I will even say, like
if I was in her same exact situation, I think
it would be an easy yes to take him after
this grand gesture, because if I put him, if I
measure up against my ex you know her X at
(19:09):
the time, Sure, yeah, let me go be with this
other guy, even though he's like confused about his feelings.
Oh that sounds terrible, But like I could understand her
doing that, I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Guess because they've been friends for so long. Like if
it's if it's just a guy that you don't really
have history with, I don't think I would be as
open to receiving them. But do you know yep, because
like you're saying these things, I don't know you well
(19:40):
enough to know if you're like actually meaning it in
you're sincere Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either.
I guess it would just depend on how well I
know that person.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think. Another thing that's hard in that scenario is
how quickly the movie sort of runs through this seq
ones because like he has the realistation when he talks
to his dad that like oh, yeah, like wait, what
am I doing? You know, I'm looking for missus perfect?
But like that may not be a thing. I may
take a few tries before you do. Whereas in real life.
(20:17):
I think it would take a lot more mending and
like re conversations and reintroducing us to the relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, mm hmm, I think I might just I don't know.
I I think it's it's just a weird scenario, because
then maybe this is like the cynic in me, like
somebody like, Okay, they say that we we have that conversation,
(20:50):
we break up, we're doing separate things. I think I don't.
I just don't let I sound like the most difficult
person right now. I think I just don't like the
idea that he realized it because he didn't have access
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to me anymore. Like I want you to be I
want someone to be sure. Maybe it's an age thing,
you know what I mean, Like I don't have time
for this. You're either sure that you want to be
with me, you're sure that you have of what you
feel for me. I think I would have the same
reaction as her when he confronts her at the wedding,
(21:34):
because he starts off on this speech and she says,
you feel that way because you're lonely. I would chalk
it up to that. I mean, like you're lonely, So
that's my that's my gripe about the trying to make
things right after the fact, after you've been alone for
(21:57):
a while, after you've seen me with somebody else, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Gosh, Risceilla, you bring such a good point because I
always laugh when you say that about like being cynic
and stuff like, but it's facts, you know, Like, And
I struggle with this because I'll give you a perfect
example in this in this thing that we're talking about, right,
Like in the movie, we see that he had to
have a conversation with his friend, he had to have
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drunken type of approaching of woman, conversation with his dad, like,
he had to have this all this help to help
him realize that she was a good option for him
and in real life, and I think I agree with
you comes with I feel like it comes with age two.
(22:46):
It's like, no, I want someone to be absolutely sure
of me. But I think it's because I am older,
and I am expecting older people to sort of feel
this way. If I were back in my twenties, sure
everybody have conversation with him, make them help him realize,
But I'm not. And at this age, I want someone
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that has done work within themselves, done growth, within themselves
that they don't need an army telling them that, hey,
Jen's a good option. Mm hmmm, I rest my case,
your honor.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think I'm asking for too much.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't think you are. I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just want someone to be sure. Yeah see, and
I go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I was gonna say, I don't think you are, because
knowing you, how I know you, you have you exude this
confidence of like you know, you make a decision and
you decide something and that's what it is. So yeah,
I wouldn't. I can't see you with someone that's like
flip floppy, like you have to be with someone that's
sure of what they want and what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I can't do the way she washy anymore. No, no, no,
not at again, not at this fucking age. Here's what
I think. I feel that it doesn't take years to
know if you love somebody, to know that you have
a future with them, that you want to build a
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life with them. I don't think it takes that long.
So if you ask someone and they've been in a
relationship with someone for like two years and they don't
seem sure about that person, to me, I'm like, I
look at that person differently because I'm like, damn, you
seem really okay with waste time. Like two years is
(24:43):
kind of a long time to not know what you
feel about somebody. A year is kind of a long
time to not know how you feel about somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Absolutely agree, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It doesn't mean that you know you want to marry
them the next or whatever, but like I would like
to shake out Yeah, yeah, I would like to think
that somebody wouldn't waste longer than a year of their
time with somebody that they honestly feel like, I just
don't think we're a match. I don't think we're going
to go the distance. Three more years isn't going to
(25:20):
fix that?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like obviously something is keeping you from being sure about somebody.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It makes me question too, like what are your conversations
like that, Like you haven't gotten clarity on what's holding
you back. Also, is this person aware and are they
also in the same boat, because I mean, if you're
both on the same boat, then row row row your boat.
But if you're not discussing that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I like the idea of check ins. I don't know
if you've ever seen the show broad City. No, I
have not hilarious show. But the one girl, the one character.
She is in this relationship with this guy and on
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their like anniversary, on their year anniversary, that is their
check in, Like Okay, right now, this is how I
feel and these are things that I want, Like it's
it's actually a very interesting episode, like the standalone episode
of their anniversary, and like how that works out, like
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the check in the negotiations, like you know, this is
what I'm looking for and the other person's like, all right,
well I don't feel completely comfortable doing that, but I'll
counter with doing this, And like I think.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I like that idea of this so hot to.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Me, yes, like of a check in, like how are
you feeling about this relationship? How how are you feeling
about me? You know, instead of just kind of being
in a relationship because nothing's broken you up, like there's
nothing wrong and you're just kind of letting it go on.
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I feel like that's how a lot of like these
long term relationships. You hear these long term relationships where
a couple, especially like if they started dating in college,
they start dating, they're with each other for anywhere between
six to eight nine years whatever, it is, and then
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maybe they break up and then the next person they
get with that's the person that they're getting married to,
and they get engaged. Kind of quick, what were you
doing for all that time? You were just used to somebody? Yes,
you are comfortable. Yeah, that scares me. That scares me
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a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah. I have not seen that, but I remember the
concept from some reels I've seen of couples that will say, like,
you know whatever, come see our monthly check in or
something they'll have like a monthly check in and not
like a financial check in with that too, Like, and
(28:30):
I love that concept. Like I said, it sounds hot
to me. It sounds exciting, It sounds like something to
look forward to. It also makes sense because going to
your point about the people in these long term relationships,
like we change and evolve a lot during those times
or those years, and these check ins can help you
(28:52):
catch changes and patterns before it's sort of, you know,
ten years later and you're like, I don't recognize this
person anymore. So Yeah, I would love to do something
like that.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, it'll avoid the whole catching someone off guard. I
thought we were on the same page. What happened? We
guys didn't talk about the things that you needed to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I like those a lot. Can we talk about this
whole the guys that think they're the good guys type
of thing?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes, yes, tell me.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
So. I like how this movie sort of calls it
out because I feel like I've seen guys like this
and you don't realize it right away, right like sometimes
it takes some pattern to sort of see it. I
guess no real point other than like it is very interesting,
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and I think there are a lot of women like
that too. Perhaps we don't talk about it enough, but
it is very interesting. That's That's as much as I
sort of have rolling in my brain about that. But
it caught my attention.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Do you mean the part where they're having the breakup
conversation and she's like, you know, you say you want
love and I'm here in front of you and you
think you're a good guy and you're not a good guy.
That whole conversation that and I.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Think there's another part in the movie where he is
sort of confronted with the thought of like, you know,
like like you're doing you think you're doing these things
like the good guy. I forget, but there was something
else where he was confronted with it. But yeah, that
same thread of basically the guy that thinks, you know,
he's a good guy. You know, he's doing the right
(30:44):
thing looking he has a list of, uh the things
he's looking for. The moment one thing goes wrong with
one person he meets, he's like, Nope, they're not not
the one. You don't have the right find the right part.
Or so they sort of think they're being a good
guy because they've sort of created this filter to filter
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out women. But perhaps the filter is too rigid, and
so my thought is, I feel like they're a women
like that too. But the guy that thinks he's a
good guy gets a bad rap versus the woman. I
feel like I'm walking into a different territory. But the
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whole point of this is the whole idea that he
is a guy that thinks that he's a good guy
caught my attention because I've seen these guys and there's
just you just wonder, like, who's going to please them?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I don't know, or the the men that they they
think they're one of the good ones, but they are
either in denial about the actual way that they handle things,
or they I don't know. They really are just completely
(32:04):
blind to how they behave I've I've dealt with them.
It's very it's very frustrating to try to have a
conversation with somebody like that and be like, listen, you
fucked up, and let me tell you why. And they
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are not acknowledging it. They're acting like they don't know,
Like it's amazing, it's just amazing what they think handling
something in a good way is h or like, you know,
when things weren't going so well in my relationships and
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like it's just being dragged out, there's no communication, whatever, whatever.
And I just remember saying, like, you think because you
don't scream or hit a woman that you are good
or that you're not abusive, but there are other ways
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to be handling this badly, you know. So it's it's that,
like I think, they just they don't think about all
the infinite little ways that can hurt somebody, whereas a woman,
we are acutely aware of all all the ways that
(33:28):
somebody can be hurt. Yeah, so that's that's a big
reason why she said what she said to Ben m
Because he's trying to be like, look, I don't know
I'm not sure. I don't know if we have a future,
and I don't wanna. I don't want to do that teap.
(33:51):
I don't want to hurt you. And she's like mm hmm,
you're not gonna You're not gonna play this. You're a
hero type thing that you're doing something for my benefit.
You're doing it because you're not the good person that
you think you are.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah. I feel like I've been spooked by man that like, oh, no,
I've been to therapy, because it's like, like, well, that's
a good thing. I feel like Ben's character could have
said that and it would have perfectly fit, like no,
I don't want to hurt you, you know. But then
you find out he's been to therapy. So it's like
a funny little thing where I'm like, I'm realizing not
(34:31):
men saying they've been to therapy may not be okay?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Would you learn?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, walk me through your therapy?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Do you what are you getting out of it personally?
How has it helped you?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, talk to me about your values, Like, let's really
dipe in in too, see what you've what you've actually
taken out of this.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I thought it was interesting because he like and
it could be too like you know, divorce kid. He
really didn't want to still traumatize, didn't want to mess
it up, blah blah blah. But I don't know. He
was just too too good at the good guy thing
and it was and then when he wasn't he the
holes were so big.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, I wasn't the biggest fan
of him.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But the smile, that's Dennis Quaid's.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, he's got a very he's got a very charming smile.
I found her a lot more endearing and charming than him,
though maybe it is because I don't think he is
a very like loose, laid back person. She is somebody
(35:51):
that I could have fun with and I just didn't
see that with him, So maybe that added to it.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, he wasn't your party crowd.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
No, I definitely gravitate more towards her personality.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You're ratchet us.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I like to have fun, and he just he just
had like he was kind of prudish, like everything everything
she said and did. He's like Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ,
and like, all right, me personally, I don't I wouldn't
(36:32):
think to cuddle with my guy friends. With straight guy friends,
like we're in a bed together and you know, her whole,
her whole, let's cuddle. I would never do that. I'm
sorry that was a crazy loud laugh because I'm looking
(36:53):
at your fucking face right now. I do I know
that you have a problem with that. You have a
problem with people just kissing her lips willy nilly, like
(37:15):
that bitch was backing it up on the bed.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, Like, oh my god, like there's a saying I gosh,
I forgot, Oh, like the devil is is you know,
fresh evil whatever it is, like, girl, don't be.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Rubbing up on things that are gonna get up.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah. I don't think he was in the wrong there
where he was like I don't want to do this,
like this is inappropriate. But everything else, everything else about
the way he behaved around her, I was like, you're
kind of a prude, like she can't do anything because
he's like whiny about it. But that the cuddling thing
(38:04):
in bed, I was like, no, I would not ever
do that to one of my guy friends.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
No. Same, I mean, unless like I was willing to
just like, yeah, let's let's see where this goes's let's
rock and roll baby.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Other than that, no, yeah, but he was there. He
was just he was very clearly saying no, he was
not interested, and she just kept crossing the lines there.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So that's what I'm telling you. I Ben gives off
the vibe of men that he's been the therapy type
of thing, because he was very thoughtful writing his speech,
was very thoughtful writing the card. He's very like aware
of boundaries, like again, nothing wrong with men going to therapy,
Like I want a man that has been to therapy,
(38:58):
but there is this like really fine line. Well, like
I say, again, it happened to anyone. Just because you've
been to therapy doesn't mean therapy has been in you.
And I sort of feel like he has all the tools,
but he's not letting the tools really work within him.
Professional assessment outside.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Of the friends cuddling thing, Like I feel like he
was uncomfortable sleeping in the same bed as her anyway,
which that I would have been like, grow the fuck up,
Like we're stuck with one bed, there's plenty of room,
get on your side, like you know, but the but
(39:40):
her like really really yes, absolutely scootin' and booten right
up to him.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Why does schutin and Bootine sounds so white and so
eighties or nineties all at the same time. She was
she scoop is scoop and envelopment.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Just like one last mention all of the weddings, like
they all the introduction to each wedding that they attend.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
There's always somebody from that wedding doing a speech, and
the speech is made want to hide under a rock.
But the one that had me absolutely rolling was I
think it was like one of the last ones, and
it was the girl that was like talking about how
the bride blamed a fart on her. Yeah, she was
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blowing up her spot.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Oh my god, she was like it was you.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You blame dab Be, remember.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Wid Yeah, the ones within the movie were so unhinged.
But I did like the ones at the beginning that
were sort of like the real ones, like from real
life moments, but they were so freaking on.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Hint.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I don't like the speech part because I'm always scared
of something crazy about to happen, like somebody's doing laundry
being aired out. Yeah, I have I personally have not
heard very many great speeches.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
You know what, Actually, now that you say that, I
went to a wedding in October. The best man gave
but he was also the brother of the groom, gave
one of the best speeches I've heard in a while.
It was funny, but it was very like, very good.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, I was gonna say, they're very few and far between.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I want to get married just to hear my brother
give a speech because he's so cute.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Do you think he would cry?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Me or him?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I know you will cry. Do you think he would?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I think so. I think he'll cry. I think he'll
cry as he's giving the speeds, but he'll make a
joke about it and everybody will laugh because his mom, don't.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
He's so great. Do we want to rate this movie?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Shall we?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So? What is this emoji called clink clinking? Class? Is
it clink clink, clinking, clink clinging with a K clink?
So clinking glasses look at me? All right? So one
to five clinking glasses emoji, which is absolutely one of
my favorite emojis ever. What do you rate this movie? Honestly?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I know we've I know we've been like very neutral
about their relationship and everything.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Uh huh, But I give the movie.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
In total for clinking glass. I enjoyed the movie as
a whole. But I don't think they're like this amazing
love story or anything. I just thought it was a
good movie.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
How about you, my friend, we can not have been
more in synct Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah hear me. I was like, uh, oh, she's gonna
go the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
No, I like, put a big smile on my face.
I'm like, oh my god, yes, we're a line at
same reasons. I It's not like the movie does anything
to sort of blow you away. I think just the
characters feel so fresh that you sort of enjoy their nonsense. Yeah,
for an hour and a half. And like I said,
(43:49):
and I still stand by this. If you would have
released this and anyone but you in the same year,
I think this movie would have won in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
So yeah, I saw this movie for the first time
when it was on Hulu. It was on Hulu for
the longest and I watched it during the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah. I did not watch this movie then. I watched
it actually very recently. It was either like early this
year or late last year. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
It was a very enjoyable, yeah, easily digestible plot. The
cast it well like it was good.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I would like to see them in more
rom comms. Not together per se, but just like both
of them in more rocom Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I really like her. I would like to see her
in another romantic leading role.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
And him too.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I think he's he's very charming.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, he's on.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
He's also on an Amazon Prime series called The Boys.
Very very very different though, like he's a very different character.
It's about like the dark side of Superheroes. Very good show,
but you know, his the character that he plays on
(45:22):
that show is like very different from who he plays
as Ben. So it was very refreshing to see him
in like a leading romantic role. I'd like to see
him do another.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I want to see him more of this stuff.
I haven't seen, Like, I haven't seen none of his
other stuff. But I think when I saw him, I
didn't immediately know he was their son. But when I
saw him, I was like, oh, he looks like that
it's Quaid. And then I looked him, I was like, oh, yeah,
it is his son. I was like, oh, it's the
son heyaded with Meg Ryan, And then I'm like I
then could see like he has the looks from his dad,
(45:57):
but then he has this, like not the same quirkiness
obviously that Mcryan has in rom coms, but he sort
of has it in his own way that it I
don't know if commanding the room it's the right term,
but he just sort of he was present and you
could see that he was present and his timing was good.
(46:18):
His uh, I don't know, I don't know, there was
There's a lot I liked about him, and I want
to see him in more of this stuff because I
think he has the looks and the personality.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
For I'd like to see him play a different kind
of romantic role, like not this rigid guy, like totally yeah,
totally different one next time.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, I agree. I like this movie. Yeah, I really
enjoyed it. I thought I thought it was a four
for me because yeah, I just enjoyed it. It was good.
It wasn't too deep. But the movie didn't get that
deep on purpose, I feel like, so it was great.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, they didn't. Nothing was dragged out, you know, like
the the obstacles that each couple has to go through
in the wrong com Like, it wasn't this long drawn out,
crazy drama. You know, I appreciate same.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
More movies like this, please girl gotta lay off the cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I actually, I'm glad that by the time we started recording,
my high started to Like, no, I was high. Maybe
that's maybe that's why we talked as deeply as we
did before we started recording.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
For an hour or two. So it did. It did help,
That's funny. I couldn't even.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
I felt like I was very like chatty at the
I thought I was rambling a lot. I was like, Oh,
she's gonna figure out that I'm high. Not that you
would care, but I was. I was also kind of
hoping that, like, I would maybe get it out of
my system by the time we started recording, so I
wouldn't go on like tangents.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
No. I mean it was. It was great. I couldn't
even tell. And it's not like the one time I
literally hit it right in front of you as were
recording and then completely like lost my mind.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
That happened to me one other time. I think it
was in Tulsa and we had planned to record. I
was like, all right, and it was getting closer to
the time, and I don't know, I think it just nothing.
It slipped my mind, but I wasn't really thinking, so
I was like, you know. I got my water and
I was getting situated. I took a hit of my
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pen and I was like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Me, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
What did I do? I'm like, well, we'll see how
please out.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I feel like we need to change the name of
our podcast at some point to include this, because I
feel like every time we record were either like come
into it, coming out of it, in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
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next time,
I just started listening to Cowboy Carter.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Same. I'm up up to Texas hold them right now,
so very early.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I've listened to a handful of songs already, but they
were on shuffle. They weren't going in order. I liked
the song with her Miley Cyrus. Have you heard the one? Okay?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
I want to hear that one and the other one
I've been here. I'm seeing a lot of memes about.
Is the Joline one too?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Mm hmm, I haven't heard that one.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
That is his Cowboy Carter's Nation now yehaw.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
Welcome to Meet Cute, a podcast for friends. Jenavrs and
Priscilla Wilson get together to discuss all things from coms
from the classics to the latest releases. We'll be diving
deep into the world of romantic comedies. Okay, we're talking
about Plus one today.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
M hmmmm. This is your choice.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
This is my choice. This is a twenty nineteen movie.
Mm hm. And I'm gonna read you the exact little
blurb that when I saw it, I was like, yep,
that's the blurb of how do you how you describe
this movie? It's longtime single friends agree to be each
other's plus one at every wedding they are invited.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
To basically, and they're invited to many weddings, many, way
too many, way too many.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, I feel like I don't I don't even know
that many people. This was even pre pandemic, so it's
not like they could even put it as like a
pandemic thing. So like, yeah, I don't know that many people,
and that many people that are in the marriage stages
that will do it right then and.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
There, right, I was gonna say, I don't have that
many friends to where I'm going to ten weddings in
the year A granted like half and half like half
of hers, half for his, but even still like five
weddings in a year, that's that's a lot pre pandemic.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Well maybe, I mean, I mean, yes, whatever, but they
we have here. Jack Quaid is the main character who
is Dennis Quaid and Meg Ryan's son, and he is
really cute.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He is cute, and he looks a lot like his dad.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, a lot of smiles that remind me of.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yes, it's random of smiles, uh huh.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
But I kind of think he has the rom com
quirkiness of Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yes, that's so funny.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
He owed that movie in my opinion, like, I think
he did well.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, yeah, I liked him and I love her. Yeah, yes,
Alice Maya Erskin furst kind. I don't know how to
say her last nay, but I've seen her in a
few things and she's very good, very funny.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, I agree. I don't know if I have seen her.
I let's put it this, but I haven't seen either
of them. I know they've been in different things, but
I'm not I think she's also in this in that
new movie, mister and missus Smith.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh yeah, the it's a show. Oh, it's a show,
a series on Amazon Prime. He was just in Oppenheimer.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I saw. I didn't see him. I haven't seen the
movie actually, so yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
He's got like a minor role. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Another point. And I know this is twenty nineteen versus
anyone but You that came out last year. But I
think this movie is better. And I think this movie
restores or brings rom coms back in my opinion, my
humble opinion.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
If we're comparing the two, yes plus one is much better,
much better in terms of like bringing back the wrong
com Yeah, like yeah, anyone but you. I wouldn't say
was the revival of rom coms. I definitely do not
look at it as that kind of movie. Plus one
(04:34):
was very understated, not long at all, like it was
I don't know, it didn't need to do a lot.
I did enjoy it.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, because the story per se and the premise of it,
like there wasn't anything new, anything crazy, which again just
comparing to anyone but you. I think that like overdid
it in the sense of like when the whole family
was involved in at shit. Yeah, there was no scheme exactly.
(05:06):
This almost just two people doing their thing. Nobody butted in, right, No,
I'm trying to think nobody really butted in at all.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, because their goal was very not boring, but just
matter of fact, two single people who just didn't want
to have to face all these freaking weddings alone. Yeah,
so who better you don't have a partner, Who better
to bring as a plus one than a very good
(05:36):
friend of you. I will say though, in the beginning
of this movie, I did not like him. I didn't
like Ben tell me more. I thought he was kind
of a bad friend. So in the beginning of the movie,
they are already at a wedding of friends of theirs
(05:59):
I'm guessing from, and he is reading her the speech
that he's made for this wedding, and she's just gone
through a breakup, so she's drinking heavily. She's giving him advice,
kind of like joking with him about his very passive
(06:19):
aggressive speech by the way, because she's right. She was like,
nobody wants to hear you're like pedophilic jealousy speech. So
he switches it up and it's a success whatever. By
the time he gets to the singles table, she's like
blackout drunk. She's dancing on the dance floor by herself.
(06:44):
He's embarrassed of her, which I don't think she's doing
anything like too crazy, Like, yeah, reel her in a
little bit, but she's not being this asshole that's screaming,
that's angry, that's you know, getting people's faces. She's just
you know, a little much. The fact that he like
(07:06):
denied their friendship. When he's outside with Jess Ramsey, he's like,
we're not even that close, like, and she keeps asking him,
shouldn't you, you know, take care of your friend. She's
pretty drunk, and he's just like left her to fend
for himself. What kind of what kind of gentleman is that?
(07:29):
Like I get, I get he's got an agenda for
this one girl, but like, I don't know, if your
girlfriend is completely obliterated, make sure she gets to the hotel,
you know what I mean, like in her room, you
never know. So I just wrote a note. I was like,
(07:50):
he's a bad friend, bad friend.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
That's very valid, that's very valid. Funny enough, I have
the complete opposite view. So it was so funny when
you said it, because I was like, wait what Because
I have the complete opposite view. I don't disagree with
the fact that he could have been a better friend
(08:15):
in that moment, but I didn't like her at the beginning.
So for me, the shift happened pre damn dating and
post damn dating. So pre damn dating, I think she
was so sloppy, just drunk, and I get it she
just went through a breakup, but she was just too
like unhinged. And then he was sort of more normal
(08:38):
to me in the sense of like it was just
sort of selfish of what he wanted to get before
he saw there was a possibility with his friend. So
and then post dating, he went and turned into this,
like and they make a comment about it in the movie,
I'm one of the good guys. And then she to
(09:01):
me seemed more like level headed, like and I liked
her more. But yeah, so I that's funny that that
you said that.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yeah, in general, I'm not his biggest fan. Okay, I
don't hate him. I just wasn't a big fan of him. Yes,
he's very selfish, like you said.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
And.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I don't know, like he just the way he is
with her. And then like, I understand what you're saying
about her being sloppy and everything like that, But to me, again,
it wasn't out of control. I wouldn't say. I could
see how it could be annoying, especially if you are
the sober person trying to reel that person in. But
(09:50):
she was funny and endearing to me. The one time
that I was like that, I looked at her differently
and was like, nah, girl, you're the one in the
wrong here, Like you're the shitty person in this scenario
was when they go to the engagement party and she
(10:11):
forgets the gift. Because it's not so much that she
forgot the gift. I kind of don't care about it either,
but just her attitude about it. She was kind of
being a brat, So I don't think she was in
the right there. I think their conversation afterwards, like yeah,
(10:32):
he's shitty for what he was like doing, but she
was a total brat about it. So I did not
like her in that moment.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
I was like, mmmmmmmm, I kid you not. When I
was telling you earlier, like the split, I remember that
scene because they were already dating, and I one hundred
percent agree with you she was so shitty because again
I agree with her in the sense of like I
wouldn't us about forgetting the gift, but she was so
(11:03):
so shitty to him.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
She's very I mean they both were kind of passive aggressive,
but you know he's talking about I like giving someone
a gift to their face. I can see them enjoy it.
I can, you know, see their reaction, and like he's
kind of a stickler about it. But then when when
(11:27):
she gets to the guys and you know, congratulates them,
she tells them what it is, she kind of makes
these comments like it was it was dickish behavior.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Absolutely agree. Yeah, So I feel like compare to him,
like like she had more things like that for me.
That I was like, girl, calm down, a little sloppy,
a little too much, but overall he wasn't great.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, he definitely has intimacy issues.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
I don't know if I would call what he has
grasses greener syndrome, but he definitely, I don't know, he's
looking for the soulmate and yeah, is ready to burn
bridges at I don't know. He like all his friends
were like, you have impossible standards, You're not happy with anybody.
(12:24):
You find every little reason to break up with somebody.
Intimacy issues. I mean, you see the relationship he has
with his dad and the whole backstory of that whole thing,
and the dad's been married a couple times and now
he's getting married again, starting a whole new family. So
I understand where Bend's fear of commitment comes from. I
(12:48):
don't dislike them as a couple, that's it. I don't
dislike them as a couple. I don't think they're this
great love story, like they're cute, but it.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up, because it's almost
like this needs to be said. Yeah, I agree with you.
I don't dislike them, but I don't love them. I like,
I think when I loved them the most was or
liked them the most. Let me clarify, was that whole
(13:26):
after pool situation, you know, walking back to the hotel,
the graveyard, little intimacy moment. Like I think that's the
only time I liked them. But other than that, I
didn't hate them.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yeah, that that sequence, And I thought they were great
in Hawaii. They were cute.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
They were cute. Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Yeah, I wasn't rooting for them, you know what I mean. Yeah, Yeah,
it was like a if you guys work out, that's great.
If you don't, it's also great, I guess.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, yeah, actually that I now that you say that,
I'm like, I think I would have been fine if
this would have been a twist, and it would have
it would have not ended up together. Like I recently
watched another movie like this, it literally dated end up together,
and it gave me the same feeling I'm feeling right now,
which is like, yeah, it's fine, they didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah, I feel very neutral about it.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Let me ask you something, mm hmm. So they start
dating and they go to her sister's wedding and they're
at her house and it's you know, it's very family oriented.
Ben gets all weird around her ex, texting her and
(14:52):
the picture coming up in the collage that he was
working on with his DA with her dad of her
and her ex. Well, part of me wan too like
understand and be like, yeah, I can't understand why he
felt that way. Part of me is also like what happened?
So like, I don't know, do you have any thoughts
on that part? Because I was just kind of like,
why was his mood so bothered by the fact that, like,
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she did date someone. You are aware of this before.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I don't know if he was bothered about the fact
that she has an ex. I don't really know what
it is. I mean, he brings up this bullshit excuse
when they're outside at outside of the engagement party, and
when when he starts initiating this basically breakup conversation with
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her at this event, which like what the fuck? But
he he first of all tells her that he doesn't
know if he loves her, which okay, he brings up.
He brings up her ex and says that he doesn't
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want them to get far enough into this to where
he ends up hurting her like her ex like Nate
m that it would kill him if he did that
to her. I just I don't really get that. It
seems like a very grasping at Straw's moment because you're
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having doubts and you're trying to back out of this
thing because of whatever issues you have, but you're trying
to make it seem like a valid reason. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm so glad you brought that up, because that was
really shitty to say. And I don't know, like I
guess I don't know what the right terminology is here,
but it was kind of like he was I do
agree with her Like that hurts more because almost like
you're coming into the relationship like almost like just like
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I'll normally expect thing that you may hurt me. I
don't know how to explain it, but it sort of
gives me that vibe of like, yeah, it hurts me
more because you're actually thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, we only just started this, and already in your
mind we're doing like he went into this thinking they
were doomed to begin with and that's shitty. Yeah, that
whole conversation was just painful to watch, Like, yeah, very cringey.
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I don't blame her for storming off, because I would
too if a man said that to you, Jen where
you guys were a thing and he's like, I don't know,
I don't know if I love you, I can feel
you settling in I can you know, Like he's saying
all this stuff and then whatever it ends, and then
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he tries to do like this grand gesture and say
that he of you, and like whatever, would you give
this dude a second chance?
Speaker 2 (18:05):
I don't know, because part of me, the hopeless romantic
side of me, is like, wow, somebody realizing that they
want to be with me, that's a big like wow,
you know, But on the same at this, on the
same thread, somebody realized or somebody saying that they don't
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want to be with me, or that they are afraid
of how close I'm getting, you know, that's settling in
line or or whatnot, Like that's that's painful. So it's
almost like it's it's like getting rejected getting rejected irl,
you know, almost like I don't know, because I think
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there had to be there would have to be more. Yeah,
in her case, I will. I will even say, like
if I was in her same exact situation, I think
it would be an easy yes to take him after
this grand gesture, because if I put him, if I
measure up against my ex you know her X at
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the time, Sure, yeah, let me go be with this
other guy, even though he's like confused about his feelings.
Oh that sounds terrible, But like I could understand her
doing that, I.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Guess because they've been friends for so long. Like if
it's if it's just a guy that you don't really
have history with, I don't think I would be as
open to receiving them. But do you know yep, because
like you're saying these things, I don't know you well
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enough to know if you're like actually meaning it in
you're sincere Yeah, I don't know. I don't know either.
I guess it would just depend on how well I
know that person.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
I think. Another thing that's hard in that scenario is
how quickly the movie sort of runs through this seq
ones because like he has the realistation when he talks
to his dad that like oh, yeah, like wait, what
am I doing? You know, I'm looking for missus perfect?
But like that may not be a thing. I may
take a few tries before you do. Whereas in real life.
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I think it would take a lot more mending and
like re conversations and reintroducing us to the relationship.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Yeah, mm hmm, I think I might just I don't know.
I I think it's it's just a weird scenario, because
then maybe this is like the cynic in me, like
somebody like, Okay, they say that we we have that conversation,
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we break up, we're doing separate things. I think I don't.
I just don't let I sound like the most difficult
person right now. I think I just don't like the
idea that he realized it because he didn't have access
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to me anymore. Like I want you to be I
want someone to be sure. Maybe it's an age thing,
you know what I mean, Like I don't have time
for this. You're either sure that you want to be
with me, you're sure that you have of what you
feel for me. I think I would have the same
reaction as her when he confronts her at the wedding,
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because he starts off on this speech and she says,
you feel that way because you're lonely. I would chalk
it up to that. I mean, like you're lonely, So
that's my that's my gripe about the trying to make
things right after the fact, after you've been alone for
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a while, after you've seen me with somebody else, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Gosh, Risceilla, you bring such a good point because I
always laugh when you say that about like being cynic
and stuff like, but it's facts, you know, Like, And
I struggle with this because I'll give you a perfect
example in this in this thing that we're talking about, right,
Like in the movie, we see that he had to
have a conversation with his friend, he had to have
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drunken type of approaching of woman, conversation with his dad, like,
he had to have this all this help to help
him realize that she was a good option for him
and in real life, and I think I agree with
you comes with I feel like it comes with age two.
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It's like, no, I want someone to be absolutely sure
of me. But I think it's because I am older,
and I am expecting older people to sort of feel
this way. If I were back in my twenties, sure
everybody have conversation with him, make them help him realize,
But I'm not. And at this age, I want someone
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that has done work within themselves, done growth, within themselves
that they don't need an army telling them that, hey,
Jen's a good option. Mm hmmm, I rest my case,
your honor.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I completely agree.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
I don't think I'm asking for too much.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I don't think you are. I don't think you are.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I just want someone to be sure. Yeah see, and
I go ahead.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
I was gonna say, I don't think you are, because
knowing you, how I know you, you have you exude this
confidence of like you know, you make a decision and
you decide something and that's what it is. So yeah,
I wouldn't. I can't see you with someone that's like
flip floppy, like you have to be with someone that's
sure of what they want and what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I can't do the way she washy anymore. No, no, no,
not at again, not at this fucking age. Here's what
I think. I feel that it doesn't take years to
know if you love somebody, to know that you have
a future with them, that you want to build a
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life with them. I don't think it takes that long.
So if you ask someone and they've been in a
relationship with someone for like two years and they don't
seem sure about that person, to me, I'm like, I
look at that person differently because I'm like, damn, you
seem really okay with waste time. Like two years is
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kind of a long time to not know what you
feel about somebody. A year is kind of a long
time to not know how you feel about somebody.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Absolutely agree, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
It doesn't mean that you know you want to marry
them the next or whatever, but like I would like
to shake out Yeah, yeah, I would like to think
that somebody wouldn't waste longer than a year of their
time with somebody that they honestly feel like, I just
don't think we're a match. I don't think we're going
to go the distance. Three more years isn't going to
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fix that?
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Like obviously something is keeping you from being sure about somebody.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It makes me question too, like what are your conversations
like that, Like you haven't gotten clarity on what's holding
you back. Also, is this person aware and are they
also in the same boat, because I mean, if you're
both on the same boat, then row row row your boat.
But if you're not discussing that, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
I like the idea of check ins. I don't know
if you've ever seen the show broad City. No, I
have not hilarious show. But the one girl, the one character.
She is in this relationship with this guy and on
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their like anniversary, on their year anniversary, that is their
check in, Like Okay, right now, this is how I
feel and these are things that I want, Like it's
it's actually a very interesting episode, like the standalone episode
of their anniversary, and like how that works out, like
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the check in the negotiations, like you know, this is
what I'm looking for and the other person's like, all right,
well I don't feel completely comfortable doing that, but I'll
counter with doing this, And like I think.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I like that idea of this so hot to.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Me, yes, like of a check in, like how are
you feeling about this relationship? How how are you feeling
about me? You know, instead of just kind of being
in a relationship because nothing's broken you up, like there's
nothing wrong and you're just kind of letting it go on.
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I feel like that's how a lot of like these
long term relationships. You hear these long term relationships where
a couple, especially like if they started dating in college,
they start dating, they're with each other for anywhere between
six to eight nine years whatever, it is, and then
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maybe they break up and then the next person they
get with that's the person that they're getting married to,
and they get engaged. Kind of quick, what were you
doing for all that time? You were just used to somebody? Yes,
you are comfortable. Yeah, that scares me. That scares me
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a lot.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
Yeah. I have not seen that, but I remember the
concept from some reels I've seen of couples that will say, like,
you know whatever, come see our monthly check in or
something they'll have like a monthly check in and not
like a financial check in with that too, Like, and
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I love that concept. Like I said, it sounds hot
to me. It sounds exciting, It sounds like something to
look forward to. It also makes sense because going to
your point about the people in these long term relationships,
like we change and evolve a lot during those times
or those years, and these check ins can help you
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catch changes and patterns before it's sort of, you know,
ten years later and you're like, I don't recognize this
person anymore. So Yeah, I would love to do something
like that.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, it'll avoid the whole catching someone off guard. I
thought we were on the same page. What happened? We
guys didn't talk about the things that you needed to
talk about.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
I like those a lot. Can we talk about this
whole the guys that think they're the good guys type
of thing?
Speaker 1 (29:25):
Yes, yes, tell me.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
So. I like how this movie sort of calls it
out because I feel like I've seen guys like this
and you don't realize it right away, right like sometimes
it takes some pattern to sort of see it. I
guess no real point other than like it is very interesting,
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and I think there are a lot of women like
that too. Perhaps we don't talk about it enough, but
it is very interesting. That's That's as much as I
sort of have rolling in my brain about that. But
it caught my attention.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Do you mean the part where they're having the breakup
conversation and she's like, you know, you say you want
love and I'm here in front of you and you
think you're a good guy and you're not a good guy.
That whole conversation that and I.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Think there's another part in the movie where he is
sort of confronted with the thought of like, you know,
like like you're doing you think you're doing these things
like the good guy. I forget, but there was something
else where he was confronted with it. But yeah, that
same thread of basically the guy that thinks, you know,
he's a good guy. You know, he's doing the right
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thing looking he has a list of, uh the things
he's looking for. The moment one thing goes wrong with
one person he meets, he's like, Nope, they're not not
the one. You don't have the right find the right part.
Or so they sort of think they're being a good
guy because they've sort of created this filter to filter
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out women. But perhaps the filter is too rigid, and
so my thought is, I feel like they're a women
like that too. But the guy that thinks he's a
good guy gets a bad rap versus the woman. I
feel like I'm walking into a different territory. But the
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whole point of this is the whole idea that he
is a guy that thinks that he's a good guy
caught my attention because I've seen these guys and there's
just you just wonder, like, who's going to please them?
Speaker 1 (31:42):
I don't know, or the the men that they they
think they're one of the good ones, but they are
either in denial about the actual way that they handle things,
or they I don't know. They really are just completely
(32:04):
blind to how they behave I've I've dealt with them.
It's very it's very frustrating to try to have a
conversation with somebody like that and be like, listen, you
fucked up, and let me tell you why. And they
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are not acknowledging it. They're acting like they don't know,
Like it's amazing, it's just amazing what they think handling
something in a good way is h or like, you know,
when things weren't going so well in my relationships and
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like it's just being dragged out, there's no communication, whatever, whatever.
And I just remember saying, like, you think because you
don't scream or hit a woman that you are good
or that you're not abusive, but there are other ways
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to be handling this badly, you know. So it's it's that,
like I think, they just they don't think about all
the infinite little ways that can hurt somebody, whereas a woman,
we are acutely aware of all all the ways that
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somebody can be hurt. Yeah, so that's that's a big
reason why she said what she said to Ben m
Because he's trying to be like, look, I don't know
I'm not sure. I don't know if we have a future,
and I don't wanna. I don't want to do that teap.
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I don't want to hurt you. And she's like mm hmm,
you're not gonna You're not gonna play this. You're a
hero type thing that you're doing something for my benefit.
You're doing it because you're not the good person that
you think you are.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Yeah. I feel like I've been spooked by man that like, oh, no,
I've been to therapy, because it's like, like, well, that's
a good thing. I feel like Ben's character could have
said that and it would have perfectly fit, like no,
I don't want to hurt you, you know. But then
you find out he's been to therapy. So it's like
a funny little thing where I'm like, I'm realizing not
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men saying they've been to therapy may not be okay?
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Would you learn?
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Yeah, walk me through your therapy?
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Do you what are you getting out of it personally?
How has it helped you?
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, talk to me about your values, Like, let's really
dipe in in too, see what you've what you've actually
taken out of this.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I thought it was interesting because he like and
it could be too like you know, divorce kid. He
really didn't want to still traumatize, didn't want to mess
it up, blah blah blah. But I don't know. He
was just too too good at the good guy thing
and it was and then when he wasn't he the
holes were so big.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't. Again, I wasn't the biggest fan
of him.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
But the smile, that's Dennis Quaid's.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yeah, he's got a very he's got a very charming smile.
I found her a lot more endearing and charming than him,
though maybe it is because I don't think he is
a very like loose, laid back person. She is somebody
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that I could have fun with and I just didn't
see that with him, So maybe that added to it.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, he wasn't your party crowd.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
No, I definitely gravitate more towards her personality.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
You're ratchet us.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I like to have fun, and he just he just
had like he was kind of prudish, like everything everything
she said and did. He's like Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ,
and like, all right, me personally, I don't I wouldn't
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think to cuddle with my guy friends. With straight guy friends,
like we're in a bed together and you know, her whole,
her whole, let's cuddle. I would never do that. I'm
sorry that was a crazy loud laugh because I'm looking
(36:53):
at your fucking face right now. I do I know
that you have a problem with that. You have a
problem with people just kissing her lips willy nilly, like
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that bitch was backing it up on the bed.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Yeah, Like, oh my god, like there's a saying I gosh,
I forgot, Oh, like the devil is is you know,
fresh evil whatever it is, like, girl, don't be.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Rubbing up on things that are gonna get up.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
Yeah. I don't think he was in the wrong there
where he was like I don't want to do this,
like this is inappropriate. But everything else, everything else about
the way he behaved around her, I was like, you're
kind of a prude, like she can't do anything because
he's like whiny about it. But that the cuddling thing
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in bed, I was like, no, I would not ever
do that to one of my guy friends.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
No. Same, I mean, unless like I was willing to
just like, yeah, let's let's see where this goes's let's
rock and roll baby.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Other than that, no, yeah, but he was there. He
was just he was very clearly saying no, he was
not interested, and she just kept crossing the lines there.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
So that's what I'm telling you. I Ben gives off
the vibe of men that he's been the therapy type
of thing, because he was very thoughtful writing his speech,
was very thoughtful writing the card. He's very like aware
of boundaries, like again, nothing wrong with men going to therapy,
Like I want a man that has been to therapy,
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but there is this like really fine line. Well, like
I say, again, it happened to anyone. Just because you've
been to therapy doesn't mean therapy has been in you.
And I sort of feel like he has all the tools,
but he's not letting the tools really work within him.
Professional assessment outside.
Speaker 1 (39:16):
Of the friends cuddling thing, Like I feel like he
was uncomfortable sleeping in the same bed as her anyway,
which that I would have been like, grow the fuck up,
Like we're stuck with one bed, there's plenty of room,
get on your side, like you know, but the but
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her like really really yes, absolutely scootin' and booten right
up to him.
Speaker 2 (39:55):
Why does schutin and Bootine sounds so white and so
eighties or nineties all at the same time. She was
she scoop is scoop and envelopment.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
Just like one last mention all of the weddings, like
they all the introduction to each wedding that they attend.
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
There's always somebody from that wedding doing a speech, and
the speech is made want to hide under a rock.
But the one that had me absolutely rolling was I
think it was like one of the last ones, and
it was the girl that was like talking about how
the bride blamed a fart on her. Yeah, she was
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blowing up her spot.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Oh my god, she was like it was you.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
You blame dab Be, remember.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Wid Yeah, the ones within the movie were so unhinged.
But I did like the ones at the beginning that
were sort of like the real ones, like from real
life moments, but they were so freaking on.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
Hint.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
I don't like the speech part because I'm always scared
of something crazy about to happen, like somebody's doing laundry
being aired out. Yeah, I have I personally have not
heard very many great speeches.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
You know what, Actually, now that you say that, I
went to a wedding in October. The best man gave
but he was also the brother of the groom, gave
one of the best speeches I've heard in a while.
It was funny, but it was very like, very good.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yeah, I was gonna say, they're very few and far between.
Speaker 2 (41:58):
I want to get married just to hear my brother
give a speech because he's so cute.
Speaker 1 (42:02):
Do you think he would cry?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Me or him?
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I know you will cry. Do you think he would?
Speaker 2 (42:09):
I think so. I think he'll cry. I think he'll
cry as he's giving the speeds, but he'll make a
joke about it and everybody will laugh because his mom, don't.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
He's so great. Do we want to rate this movie?
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Shall we?
Speaker 1 (42:29):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (42:30):
So? What is this emoji called clink clinking? Class? Is
it clink clink, clinking, clink clinging with a K clink?
So clinking glasses look at me? All right? So one
to five clinking glasses emoji, which is absolutely one of
my favorite emojis ever. What do you rate this movie? Honestly?
Speaker 1 (42:54):
I know we've I know we've been like very neutral
about their relationship and everything.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
Uh huh, But I give the movie.
Speaker 1 (43:03):
In total for clinking glass. I enjoyed the movie as
a whole. But I don't think they're like this amazing
love story or anything. I just thought it was a
good movie.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
How about you, my friend, we can not have been
more in synct Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (43:24):
Yeah hear me. I was like, uh, oh, she's gonna
go the opposite way.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
No, I like, put a big smile on my face.
I'm like, oh my god, yes, we're a line at
same reasons. I It's not like the movie does anything
to sort of blow you away. I think just the
characters feel so fresh that you sort of enjoy their nonsense. Yeah,
for an hour and a half. And like I said,
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and I still stand by this. If you would have
released this and anyone but you in the same year,
I think this movie would have won in my eyes.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
So yeah, I saw this movie for the first time
when it was on Hulu. It was on Hulu for
the longest and I watched it during the pandemic.
Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah. I did not watch this movie then. I watched
it actually very recently. It was either like early this
year or late last year. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (44:24):
It was a very enjoyable, yeah, easily digestible plot. The
cast it well like it was good.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah. Yeah, I would like to see them in more
rom comms. Not together per se, but just like both
of them in more rocom Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
I really like her. I would like to see her
in another romantic leading role.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
And him too.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
I think he's he's very charming.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
Yeah, he's on.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
He's also on an Amazon Prime series called The Boys.
Very very very different though, like he's a very different character.
It's about like the dark side of Superheroes. Very good show,
but you know, his the character that he plays on
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that show is like very different from who he plays
as Ben. So it was very refreshing to see him
in like a leading romantic role. I'd like to see
him do another.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Yeah, I want to see him more of this stuff.
I haven't seen, Like, I haven't seen none of his
other stuff. But I think when I saw him, I
didn't immediately know he was their son. But when I
saw him, I was like, oh, he looks like that
it's Quaid. And then I looked him, I was like, oh, yeah,
it is his son. I was like, oh, it's the
son heyaded with Meg Ryan, And then I'm like I
then could see like he has the looks from his dad,
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but then he has this, like not the same quirkiness
obviously that Mcryan has in rom coms, but he sort
of has it in his own way that it I
don't know if commanding the room it's the right term,
but he just sort of he was present and you
could see that he was present and his timing was good.
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His uh, I don't know, I don't know, there was
There's a lot I liked about him, and I want
to see him in more of this stuff because I
think he has the looks and the personality.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
For I'd like to see him play a different kind
of romantic role, like not this rigid guy, like totally yeah,
totally different one next time.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah, I agree. I like this movie. Yeah, I really
enjoyed it. I thought I thought it was a four
for me because yeah, I just enjoyed it. It was good.
It wasn't too deep. But the movie didn't get that
deep on purpose, I feel like, so it was great.
Speaker 1 (46:59):
Yeah, they didn't. Nothing was dragged out, you know, like
the the obstacles that each couple has to go through
in the wrong com Like, it wasn't this long drawn out,
crazy drama. You know, I appreciate same.
Speaker 2 (47:19):
More movies like this, please girl gotta lay off the cigarettes.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
I actually, I'm glad that by the time we started recording,
my high started to Like, no, I was high. Maybe
that's maybe that's why we talked as deeply as we
did before we started recording.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
For an hour or two. So it did. It did help,
That's funny. I couldn't even.
Speaker 1 (47:56):
I felt like I was very like chatty at the
I thought I was rambling a lot. I was like, Oh,
she's gonna figure out that I'm high. Not that you
would care, but I was. I was also kind of
hoping that, like, I would maybe get it out of
my system by the time we started recording, so I
wouldn't go on like tangents.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
No. I mean it was. It was great. I couldn't
even tell. And it's not like the one time I
literally hit it right in front of you as were
recording and then completely like lost my mind.
Speaker 1 (48:31):
That happened to me one other time. I think it
was in Tulsa and we had planned to record. I
was like, all right, and it was getting closer to
the time, and I don't know, I think it just nothing.
It slipped my mind, but I wasn't really thinking, so
I was like, you know. I got my water and
I was getting situated. I took a hit of my
(48:54):
pen and I was like, fuck.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Me, what did I do?
Speaker 1 (48:57):
What did I do? I'm like, well, we'll see how
please out.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
I feel like we need to change the name of
our podcast at some point to include this, because I
feel like every time we record were either like come
into it, coming out of it, in the middle of it.
Speaker 1 (49:21):
Absolutely. Thank you for joining us today. If you'd like
to send any movie recommendations our way, or just you know,
a little love note, you can drop us a line
at podcast mecute at gmail dot com, or find us
on Instagram and TikTok at the mecutepod. Enjoyed the show,
(49:42):
Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen
to podcasts. And finally, a big shout out to Spreaker
from iHeart for being such a great podcasting platform. Until
next time,
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