February 7, 2024 • 42 mins
Mark and Veronica take a breather to play some Fortnite on a Rainy Tuesday Afternoon, while discuss the Roblox-ification of the service, the release of Hazbin Hotel, and some other stuff I'm sure
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Meeting Halfway is a weekly podcast featuring LSMark and Veronica as they interview creators and artists that have been both life-long and contemporary inspirations for their collective creative worlds.
You can also find weekly episodes on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts!
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Intro music by: Nick Olmoz
Produced by Screenwave Media https://screenwavemedia.com
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Guys Alistairs in Fortnite. What Charlieand Vaggy are in Fortnite? Yeah,
and you get their pilot designs asall scam You can shoot Waggy in the
head with the Auto Frenzy shotgun.Yeah, but look, yes, let's
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get so much epic victory royality.Mark, what do you think about the
cool Hey Arnold Knuckles, the Echidnaand Picard crossovers. I'll throw him.
I thought it was pretty cool.I I was telling you the other day,
it feels like paramunt are the smartestat advertising their streaming service, where
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they're just people love crossovers. Peoplelove crossovers, and it's nothing but that.
It's like it's Hey, Arnold andKnuckles and Picard and that's smart or
is that just typical? That's genius. HBO doesn't really do that. I
think I did, like billboards ofall their characters. Yeah, they got
Bob Berger hanging out with Alistair theDemon. Let's go to fencing fields and
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get the really epic gun. SureI'm not loaded in yet. Oh see,
Okay, every time me and Markplay Fortnite, he always takes forever
to load in, like every time. Yeah, it sucks for those who
are listening on iHeartRadio, Spotify,Apple Podcasts. I just want you guys
to know that this is the epicFortnite ASMR. This Yeah, Fortnite a
SMAR. This is the chill episode. This is the super stoner chill episode.
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But whoa look at this. Don'tworry. We're not actually just gonna
sit here and talk about Fortnite thewhole time. We're gonna like, but
we will talk about Fortnite sometimes,so you have to remember that we are
playing Fortnite for your enjoyment. Look, I gotta be ooh even better blue
fucking striker. All right, watchout mark because I'm gonna throw bombs.
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Scheme doesn't have friendly fire. Ohere you pitched? I want your son.
What do you think about like theroadblocks effocation of like gaming no where
every game like you see with likePale World and stuff where it's like this
game is Fortnite and fishing and AnimalSimulator and Antimagotchi and bent every game has
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to do everything now where it's like, yeah, Fortnite also has like rock
Band Mode and Lego Survival Minecraft Mode. You know what's really funny is I
never thought of it until you broughtit up. Yeah, where like everything
is designed not. I mean it'seven like Netflix has their own like gaming
section. Now everything has to kindof be a hub for you to never
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leave shove advertisements in your fast youknow what it is is everything now is
like a monopoly of itself. Nickelodeon, what is it? Brothers potentially like
merging them merging. You know,it's like, oh, it's all in
one. You get all your favoriteshows in one place, which is like
everyone's all the Soyjack Soy and Screambecause they think about Star Trek and bugs,
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bunny throwing, throwing Hey Arnolds inthe air, you know what I
mean. And so my thought thereis kind of just like, well would
I want that in a game?No? Because for Fortnite, I don't
play Fortnite because it has rock Bandand it has Buddy Holly by Weezer,
and you know has leg Yeah,and Charlie Vagina Quest What's what's your name?
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Guildquest, guildcrests No, No,Charlie, Oh, I thought it
was like Badge Crest. Yeah.They have so many characters now, you
know. I think that's the thingthat appeals to me is that and it's
a gun game. But anything else, like the lego stuff and like the
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rock band stuff, none of thatappeals to me. Yeah, because to
me, it's like you trying tolike retro fit the Fortnite engine to do
all this other stuff will never beas like good as like a triple A
game that is just doing this,that has the actual time. And but
what does he want? Do youthink he has to go to the bathroom?
Yeah, yeah, I'll let himout. Just could you protect me?
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I'm gonna be hiding in this corner. Yeah, guys, look at
this. See Vernic is not gonnasee this till she's editing. Wait no,
no, no, no, no, all you listeners out there,
I'm getting my interstellar Rick and Mortysprappiant that someone randomly gifted me one day
on Fortnite, and I'm sprappiating itall around Veronica so that when she gets
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back, she'll just be covered infucking Rick Sanchez. Well, like,
I'll stand over here, like Idon't even know what's going on. I'm
getting lout Fortnite rocks. There's aguy right there. I didn't even I
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heard the footsteps, but I didn'tput two and two together. Oh my
god, No, no, no, I got him. Hey do you
want this golden SMG? Sure?I don't really like the SMG. I
like having an AR and an SMG. I like having two ars or an
AR and a sniper. Yeah,it's never gonna be as good as a
game that is developed from the grindup, like an engine from the grind
up that is designed to be thatthing. Yeah, where the intention is
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there? Yeah know what it is. It's like whenever the iPhone, chem
I and the App store started,really, are you for real? Are
you fucking for real? When doesthat ever happen? Two years we lived
here, It's like when apps werebecoming really big and there was like apps
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for everything, like that was thejoke, is that there's an app for
everything, And so they started shittingout all these things where it's like,
oh, you can play like atwo D platform or on your phone,
or you can play like really shittyTetris on your phone, and it's like
people just deal with it because itis like what it is, but it
is like an inferior version where it'slike, well, why carry her on
to game Boy when I could carryherround my phone and plus sneak I guess.
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I guess when it comes to whenit comes to epic games in particular
and Fortnite in particular, I guessthey just want to appeal to wider margins.
Yes, where do you go?Where do you go? Oh shit,
he's almost done, Mark, bindyou bind you one shot? One
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shot? Yes, guys, youhave to admit oh sorry. Oh yeah.
So when it comes to epic games, they want to appeal to multiple
facets of their audience. Now thatthey have all these cool characters that you
can play as, you know whatI mean? So why wouldn't they do
Lego? Why wouldn't they do like, what's it called Rocket League? Didn't
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they do a Rocket League too?Yeah? They did do Rocket League,
you know what I mean? Orthe Splatoon they want to be splatoon thing.
Yeah, there's like racing in it, not too yeah, yeah,
there's the epic Smurf's racing in Fortnite. See look at this display of characters.
What the fuck am I looking at? You know what I mean?
Yeah? But you know what,though, like it's pretty fucking cool,
it is that that is the thingis that you can't help that everyone's a
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little bit soy on the inside.Fortnite is like whoa, this is like
at its prime. But seeing PeterPeter Griffin do the eminem rap it is
pretty sweet. Little Brian Griffin likepinata on his back. Hot Mark,
open up your Epic games really quickwhile this is loading. How many hours
have you logged into Fortnite? Oh? You can check. I'm pretty sure
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you could. Let's see does itsay, yeah, Fortnite seven hundred and
five hours? Where do you seethat if you go to your library?
But hear that, folks, sevenhundred and five hours. I probably have
more. You probably do have morecause you've been playing long. Yeah?
Yeah, how many hours there anyyear? Let's find out, shall we?
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Eighty seven hundred and sixty So eightthousand, seven hundred and sixty one
tenth of the way there? Yes, yeah, so what here's where the
fortnite A play Fortnite for two years, which means a fifth of your year
has been spent playing Fortnite. Butthat's what Epic wants. That's a fifth
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of someone's whole year is on theirservice. You know, that's what I
would want. And think about allthose little babies around the world to come
home from school plus Fortnite go tobad like someone's killing the bot. Let's
get him, Okay, coming?Oh flok, cant you gun? I
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cannot find a gun at all.Okak, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
die. Oh my god, yeah, definitely what yes? Huh? Oh
god, oh god, oh fuck. They're all around me, Mark,
They're gonna kill me. I havea shit ton of guns. If you
come to me, Mark, Ohyou're done there. Yeah, I'm down
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with the bault Is. Pick upthe little medallion anyways. Oh I didn't
even see that. What the fuck? Okay, now you can come and
get me. Come down here andget me because I have twenty eight seconds
left. Sure instead of healing yourself, I forgot move in there. Not
only mean you can just get meright now. Oh those people coming?
Oh thought, those are bots.I don't know. Don't want to read.
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See now they don't even know we'rehere. So we recently watched all
the episodes, or no, wedidn't watch all of them. We watched
like the first half the first halfof Husband Hotel Hotel after what like four
four years development. It was indevelopment from twenty nineteen, I think the
end of or the start of twentytwenty it wasn't that long after the pilot.
He mind's pretty sure. It waslike at the start of twenty twenty,
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Yeah, I was working on hellof a Yeah, you were working
on Hell of Also two in thestart of twenty twenty. Damn that was
I never really knew what to expectfrom USBAN because it was such like a
oh high, Well, can likethis indie team like adapt to working at
like industry standards? In the end, Well, Mark, what do you
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think we in the n I feltlike a very like it's not with the
id impressive moments, you know,in moments where it's like, wow,
that came together well, But forthe most part, I think it's kind
of like I wish there was moreof an effort to like constrain themselves to
the allocated like time and budget theywere given, where it's like they,
clearly I have never done this before. What on the scale? Yeah,
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it's like you clearly had a biggerstory to tell than the budget you were
given, and like the episode cuntyou were given, and so instead of
trying to like mix something that wouldfit that better, you decided to just
try to cram it in as bestyou can. And I think it comes
together to create a show where it'slike it's missing all the meat. You
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know. Has Been's issue is thatit's really got not strong writing. I
also think that it would be reallycool if we actually saw this shit happening
instead of just watching these characters standin the lobby and talk about about it.
Yeah, yeah, it kicks wet. Like again, we only saw
the first half, so it couldit could have the most fantastic ending ever.
But if I was judging this basedoff like the first half of the
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series where it's like, oh,new Amazon Prime show, I've never heard
of, this has been Hotel before, you know, I feel like there'd
be nothing in it that would makeme or like, clearly, even knowing
it, I didn't have any interestto try and finish it because it just
felt like it was just like alwaysmoving, always trying to get through it
and but not moving forward. It'slike the problem with the Bear. It's
like the problem with like the Curse, where it wants to get to all
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these Yeah, all the ship isimplied, Oh, Alistair has this like
contract of his own that he hasto adhere to. It's just implied in
a song later because lore it wantsto be different from the pilot and separate
itself from the pilot, but becauseit only has eight episodes, it also
wants you to be like, Okay, I just assume the pilot happened in
some form, you know, Soit feels like the show has just kind
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of like started, you know,it started, and yeah, and it
continues with an implication. Everything isjust like off the cuff said over here,
everything is like, yeah, watcha Q and a like read the
comic, watch the original pilot,and it's like, I want this show
to be able to stand on itsown. It's like, even Gillian,
that's exactly what it is. IsBi've had to retell the same story over
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and over again, and now thatshe's finally retold it, it's still not
satisfying. It is just it isjust a case where it's like like I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna sit andcall it like the worst thing un Planet
Earth. I don't know, Idon't think it's the worst thing, but
it's definitely a thing where it's likethis could have been so much more if
you kind of constrained yourself and didn'tfeel the need to like tell this exact
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story if you knew that you couldn'thave the time and budget to actually make
it as good a version of thatstory as it could be. You can
clearly tell where all the hard worklies. Mostly in the songs. Yeah,
mostly in the songs. But Iwould argue that you can't. I
can't understand a single fucking word that'sbeing said in any of those fucking songs.
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It was Boss of People. Ohthere's our bots. No, no,
no, it's not got him twentyfour. I think you remember this
guy Nice, his friends up heregot him for seventy Nice. Oh oh
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fuck, Oh he's one shot.One shot. He's not that good,
so you got him? Hey yougo? And there's a flowberry face yeah,
where it's just like yeah, alot of it's gone into the music,
and it's just a thing where Iwish it were more consistent. I
wish it were a more consistent package. And it's easy to be like,
well, X twenty four, onlygive them this much time, or like
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oh, well in season two andit's like no, like this, or
maybe Adam Balen and Viv aren't fuckingaccountants and don't know how to manage their
budget as well as they think theydo well, it's like, yeah,
you've been given this much budget andthis much time, and instead of like
making sure your story can fit aroundthat, it's like, well, how
can we take this story that clearlyneeds more time and condense it? When
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I feel like the better option wouldhave been to spend this season like establishing
these characters and why I'm meant tolike them and why I'm meant to care
about Charlie trying to redeem these peoplebecause everyone in Hell is such a piece
of shit who doesn't even seem tolike most of them don't even really seem
to care. It's like a weirdlike thing where you don't figure out like
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is there an economy here? Isthere? Like there's money and stuff like
that, like what's of extermination?But it just looks like all these characters
do all day and this time isrun around murdering each other, you know,
like eating each other. And it'slike, even if they were going
to get extremated by angels, they'realready killing each other to begin with.
I don't know. I think thereare some things that I'm like, that's
not very you didn't figure that out, I thought, I And it's like
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I think that stuff's important because youneed that dying time to actually explore the
concept of the show and have Charlietalk to the people in this time and
discover why these people are worth tryingto ring and I guess because they're her
people. She's a person from hell. But it's to me, it's like
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we never get the time. That'swhat I'm saying. It's all implied because
she's this. It's all implied.Everything is fucking implied. We don't actually
see it. And that's what Iwish the show had most of all,
where I could I could actually careabout why any of these characters are doing
it, because it just kind ofstarts with them already wanting to do it.
Everyone's motivation is kind of already inplay us The whole concept. I
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think that they had to kind ofchange your mind for this version compared to
the pilot is we don't actually reallysee the hotel be of any use except
for like when it comes to surPincious and Angel Dust, at least from
the episodes I saw again that thefirst half of the season, but again
this half a season, but wedon't actually see it like be this h
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I always thought that has Been Hotelhad like a really really good concept for
an episodic show where it's like wesee all these different like demons getting redeemed.
But that seems to be a trendwith VIV shows where they all kind
of start with this idea that's like, oh, that's perfect for like unique
setups or even like hell of aBoss. It's like, oh, an
imp like assassin company for like pissedoff people who are like in hell who
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want you to like go to thesurface world and nothing. Yeah, the
show doesn't take advantage of that becauseit gets so caught up in the character
stuff. Or I feel like HasBeen Hotels the same way, but it
just kind of like runs with thecharacter stuff before actually shaking the time for
you to like get to know anyof them, really care about any of
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them. You're supposed to care aboutthem because they are the characters, you
know, not because of anything actuallygoing on. And I don't know that's
my that's my two cents where it'slike I don't feel that strongly about it.
It's why I would never make avideo one. It's been a tell
because it's like it's not the worstthing in the world, but it's just
it's not for me and it's notwhat I want from like a show.
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Yeah, I don't know. Ijust I like the idea so much that
I wish it were more. Itlike I said, you got a letterbox
thing where it's like I wish thisshow could have been made in a day
where seasons got like forty episodes sothey actually had the time like this,
it's like if Stevens had You think, if it had the proper budget and
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time, it could have been obviouslybetter than what we got. Yeah.
I think it's like, yeah,it's like a Stephen Universe, are like
Adventure Time or like those kind ofshows. It's like if they all started
in the second or third season whenlike the lowers are even happening and the
show is actually happening. Yeah,where it's like I always liked or like
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even like Gravity Falls. You know, it's like if season two was the
first season where it's like I wishI like when shows kind of were given
the time and budget and the likefifth from networks to be like, okay,
you can have like twenty thirty episodesto kind of get into the groove
of things. I think it alsogets the writers more comfortable with working with
these characters. But it's just kindof like Has Been Hotel to me,
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is like the result of like abigger issue of TV these days, where
nothing is given enough time. It'slike we talk about it all the time
with like the Curse or the Bearor like Barry, where it's like,
I wish this show could have hadmore than like six episodes a season.
I see. That's the thing isI wouldn't want more episodes of Has Been
Hotel. I would have wanted vivto have either shortened down lore and things
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that she felt were necessary to talk, like to talk about these characters in
such a little time that she had, you know, constrain it down and
just kind of make it have abet or follow through, because there are
certain things where I'm like, whyare we being introduced to this at this
point? What does this have tolike? This has nothing to do with
this or oh okay, I'm gonnahave to wait for season two for you
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to talk about that, all right, you know, and then when you
talk about it, it's not asimpactful as you thought it was it was
going to be, or how itwas brought up to be, because they
have to move on to something else, yes, because they have to talk
about some other characters trauma m hm. So I don't know, it's just
like it's not for me. It'snot even yeah, it's not like I
wish there was more because I wantto watch more. It's morets. I
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wish there was more because I like, I wish I could actually like I
watch it and it kind of justgoes in one ear and at the other
like where it's like it's so shortand really like nothing that I'm just kind
of like, oh, that's it, you know, it's over. I
guess where I almost wish there wasmore to actually get a grasp on high
actually feel about it other than goinglike, well, it's not for me,
I guess because you know what itis. There's such there's really not
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a lot of information given to youabout these characters, and like we had
said before, everything has been fuckingapplied. So I'm just kind of surprised
at how much people are like obsessedwith this when I'm like like meet chew
on yeah yeah, yeah. Whereit's like there's some songs where I'm like
that's a fun song, that's acatchy song, or that could have been
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better, that song could have beenbetter. Well, I mean like there's
certain there's certain parts where I'm like, I like, even even when we
were watching it, I think therewas like a part where I turned around
and I was like, you know, if I was if I was twelve,
I would have really loved this.Like if I was a retard,
I would have really loved this.Yeah, I know, it's just it's
like, I don't know, It'sjust it's not for me, and there's
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nothing here for me to really eventalk about with it. It's kind of
like that's kind of like this justuh, yeah, it's not for me.
I could see what Vivn was tryingto do. There's a lot of
admiration I have for the artists whoreally pulled off these shots and these like
with like the long clear like limitedtime and yes money they were given.
I can appreciate their work, andI can appreciate all the all of the
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honest artists who really put themselves outthere for this project. You know,
But I'm like, I just don'tdon't. I don't like it. Sixteen
got them friends mine, it comeson here. I'm gonna use this Flowberry
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Fizz. He's trying to heal.You want to go up to him.
Oh, you're already going up there. Okay, all right, Well I'm
gonna be a little bit later thanyou got them. Nice. Yeah,
it's just it's really it's obviously notmade for me, and I can't help
a look at it and go likethat is just every show now, nothing
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is given the time to really reallyflush things out. Yeah, everything feels
like it has to be rushed,And it's just kind of makes me sad
that that is like today's media,because it's something that happens with so many
shows we try to watch where we'rejust like I wish, I wish there
were more. I wish they wouldhave explained this, Like why couldn't we
opened with the extermination so we couldreally grasp but how how deeply this impacts
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Charlie doesn't in fact Charlie so much, it doesn't really we don't really see
how it impacts any of the worldeither. No, everyone's just back to
like murdering each other in the streetsanyway, So it's like, well,
what's the big deal about the extramination. They're already killing each other exactly.
Oh, there's only six people leftnice. Can we win our first match?
That would be pretty sick. Look, there's the last two teams are
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right there. Oh nice, Youwant to run over to them. Careful,
they're a good shot, dude.Oh my god, got in for
one sixteen, got for one offive sixty seven. Where are they?
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Oh there they went inside. Goingto run over to them. They're healing.
Careful, I don't have me.I don't have anything to get up
there. Yes, yes, dude, fuck hell yeah, but funck hell
yeah. Let's go pretty sweet,pretty sweet? I think that was it.
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Do you think they have the coolepic veggie skin in Fortnite? I
wish I would give that my vbucks. You spend bucks on the veggie
skin? Yeah, on Veggie andCharles Veggie and uh Charlie and that the
other one and the one stupid one. You know what's weird? Though nothing
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else is coming out soon that Ilike care about. You know what's weird?
Yes, Saw eleven Saw eleven guysthe new the new topic for the
channels. It's just been revealed thatSaul eleven is now currently in the Words
and Mark Hoffman is coming back.Yeah, and so they're filming in March.
We need to try to get beextras on that movie. Those movies,
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like infamously don't have many extras.So I'm curious, what do you
mean they have the people who getmurdered, get you want to get murdered.
I would love to get murdered intosaw Trap. I think I have
a very realistic scream. Yeah,you think you could sell it? I
think I could sell it. Ithink I could sell it. Okay,
Okay, yeah, Mark, giveme your best I'm dying scream right now,
top your lungs. Okay, ifyou could visit one of these little
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islands or these little places here onthe Fortnite Land, I'd love to go
to Snooty Steps. You would liketo go to Snooe Steps? Irol.
Yeah, that's like Luca Luca World. Yes, that says that, remember
Luca. Yeah, you know they'rereleasing all those in theaters. Again,
they never kem in theaters. Itwas COVID. They all cameing Disney plus
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so Disney recently. I think Disneyrecently put a Soul in theaters for the
first time. And now who wouldwant to go see that? Hit Me
had like four hundred thousand dollars,which is pretty abysmal for like a theater
box office. But you know whythat is because who the fuck heard about
it? I didn't hear about it. Yeah, I didn't even know they
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were doing that. Also, whywould I go to the theater to see
a movie I can watch for free? Yeah? But you know what's cool
though, you know it just poppedin my head. What that little fat
kid on TikTok who everyone liked posts. Do you remember him? Oh,
the one that's like with the glasses. Does the box get you? Now?
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Someone got me? But they werein their last shot and they drove
away. Yeah, they'll kid withthe glasses where he's singing the five minutes
of freak sign. His dad's sittingthere miserable. Can someone can you please
show that can wait to meet you? So you win? The animal trated
family up and real soon try yourbest to hold on and sadity, that's
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him. They're almost dead. Uh, oh my god, oh my god,
give you this. You got this. I'm lagging stored. Blame it
on the leg. Huh, blameit on the leg. You're yes,
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Oh, give me your fucking crown. Okay, okay, all right,
it's pretty good. Thank you.I do love that there is like some
form of Brian Griffin and Fortnite.I although I think they should add Brian
to Fortnite. He's in the coolneck or they gonna have Rupert in Fortnite,
but he's got like the oh mygod buff Rupert. Yeah, you
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could splash, Oh my god,you could chase your friend and splash them.
And yes, Stewie as a backblame, that'd be cool. Stewie
in the backpack. You see theSpongeBob movie recently got a restored in full
HDR. Really it's like really likeimproved the colors. Have you seen that
thing on Twitter where it's like,oh, due to the film or like
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the cell like photography process in makingin the making of sailor Moon, the
colors that you see that have likea natural pink tone to it is actually
incorrect. It's not the intended colors. Yeah, I saw that, and
people are like arguing over which islike the more valid better I guess because
like, yeah, girls over theworld of me at that like pink tone.
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They're aesthetic, so they don't likefeeling invalidated. You know. That's
definitely not like like the white hueare the original, like non pink version
is the original. That's like sayingSpongeBob should like be gray because he looks
gray in all the season two episodesbecause of the mastering. Oh it's the
bot o, where's his friend?There? It is you? I really
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sure? Oh he's one shot Markand the Bot two. Yeah, editor,
cut that part where I died.Jimmy cut that part out. Jimmy
Beast. Every time you say JimmyBeast, I always think Jimmy Dean,
like Jimmy Dean sausages. You knowwhat I heard in this new show,
(28:10):
Oh yeah, Clone High season two. They reference Baba Booie, do they?
And I'd like to think that waslike partially inspired by us. I
would like to believe that too.But let's be honest. We didn't invite,
we didn't invite Baba Booie. Wedidn't invent. We didn't invent Baba
Booie. We invented. We didn'tinvent Babbah Booie. But I think a
(28:33):
little bit more than than Howard Stern, we might have popularized Baba Booie for
the kids of today. You know, we will never have something like Howard
Stern ever, again, we willnever have somebody as mean Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan is not mean like HowardStern. Like Howard Stern will like Howard
Stern will believe whatever tabloids have tosay, bring you into his fucking office
(28:56):
or his like radio room, andthen get you to talk about it when
you're like, h please, canwe not talk about this? And he'll
always keep bringing it back to thatsubject, even though you'd already asked him
not to. Yeah, yeah,I don't know. Howard Stern's kind of
sleazy. Yeah, I never likedthat kind of thing. Like watching the
Billy West one is really awkward,where the Anna Nicole Smith one. That
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one's really fucking oh yeah, wherethey keep calling her fan, he keeps
calling her fat. He's like,get on a scale, and she's like,
no, Howard, I'm not gettingon a scale, Like stop it.
Why would she ever come back tothe show. I mean, he's
a popular radio show talk show hostat that time, and she was kind
of dwindling and she needed obviously somepublicity. But the only publicity that she's
(29:37):
getting is how fat she's getting orhow drunk she is on her television show.
Because her show is like one ofthe first of reality television. Yeah,
yeah, we don't. We don'thave things like Howard Stern anymore.
You can't. You can't do that. No, you can't. And I
argue you were probably a little bitbetter off for it. You can't be
too mean, And I guess,yeah, we are better off because didn't
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she like kill herself? Not whydid she did kill herself, but that
I don't you don't think they wererelated. I mean, she was depressed,
and he definitely like to her face, vocalized how people looked at her.
So yes, he contributed to herlike twinkling mental like or self image.
Yeah, yeah, there's definitely apoint where it's like, Okay,
it's too far, you know.Definitely I would agree. But I'm also
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kind of like, sometimes it's kindof funny being mean. Sometimes it is
kind of funny being mean. I'llgive you that. I'm not saying you
should be mean all the time,and I'm not saying you should be mean
to make yourself laugh. But I'msaying sometimes when you in an uncomfortable situation,
you know someone's mean. I hadit with the fucking grenade. Yes,
(30:47):
nice, Yes, I don't thinkthose guys are real though, Oh
yes, all this yeah loop,Oh yes, oh this guy was fake.
Oh there's another guy here. Therewe go. So how would you
(31:18):
rank this season a Fortnite? Howdo you like the modded weapons? I
think modding the weapons is fucking sickin this game. Yeah, but you
know what, they nerfed it becausethey used to have, like you can
mod they used to have like snipersthat I feel like, we're fucking awesome
to where they're really shit now.They used to be so fucking cool though,
Mark, would you say that realitytelevision would makes people stupid? No?
(31:49):
I think stupid people are stupid.I think reality TV just kinda like
it's hard to describe, kind ofputs them in a play. Or they're
more susceptible to being tricked, youknow, tricked like tricked into believing something
is real when it's not. Ohlike the audience. Yeah, like the
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stupid people are the audience, youknow. Okay, And hey, and
if if you're not a stupid personyou like reality TV, that means you
could just enjoy it for what itis, which is entertainment, you know,
which is even better. But that'sthat's what I'm asking is, do
you think people who enjoy reality televisionare stupid. No, because you can
enjoy reality television and be completely awareof how like dumb it is. I
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just remember growing up and like thatwas that was a common discourse was,
yeah, watch reality television, shlike you're a fucking idiot. I definitely,
I definitely don't think that's true.I think just if you're a person
who watches reality television and you thinkeverything you're seeing is real, we probably
can't go there. And you thinkwhat you're seeing is is real, then
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you are a stupid person. Butnot not because you watch reality TV.
It's just because you're dumb. It'strue, Yeah, you know what you
mean. I would argue that ifyou indulge in certain types of reality television,
you are kind of you're you're dumb. Oh yeah, yeah, there's
definitely like there's I mean, Imean, like what reality TV do we
(33:14):
watch? Like Milf Manner and I'venever seen that? What the fuck?
That hurt me? Did you seethat? No? That hurt me?
That took like all my health.I'm trying to think what reality TV we
even consistently. I guess we watchGene was showing us ninety day Fiance or
it's like that doesn't make you stupid. It's just like I'm watching this fake
(33:36):
scenario of these fake people, likeyou know, being fat each other.
No, I would okay, watchingthat doesn't make you stupid. But then
it's like, Okay, this kindof discourse was happening around the time Jersey
Shore was going on, where it'slike, oh, if you're watching Jersey
Shore, you're a fucking nimrod.But then at the same time, like
now that I'm adult, I'm anadult and I've watched Jersey Shore, I'm
like, well, Jersey Shore isjust fucking funny. Yeah. I think
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it depends on how you're looking atit. If you look at is entertainment
is like look how dumb these peopleare, then yeah, like you're probably
not stupid. But if you're lookingat it in the sense of like like
all these guys are awesome, Likethese guys a rule, like, if
you want to be any of theguys on Jersey Shore, then you're stupid.
If you want to be Mike thesituation where you hit your head on
again against a concrete wall, youwant to do it, you should probably
(34:29):
get the fuck out of here.Words. Yeah, I don't think the
media you consume it all matters.And man, it's like to be people
who watch Blue are the stupid,you know, like I mean kind of
yeah, if you're watching Louie andyou're in a full drown adult kind of
yep, there's another guys, you'rewrite right, you gotta yes nice really
(34:52):
quick. Guys. Next week isthe big Valentine's Day special, So send
in your we're gonna read it thepo box stuff too. Okay, guys,
I don't know if you understand,but right now it is pouring rain.
Ok yeah, it's flood floods inin California, really bad floods.
(35:13):
Right. Uh? Oh got rita? Oh damn what what? Okay,
we'll do one more. It's notFlynn, fuck you if you're watching this,
dude, if you're If it's notFlynn is watching this right now,
(35:35):
Mark, tell him, tell himright now. What are you gonna do?
Then? I'm gonna tell my dadand he's gonna have it. Have
you ever threatened somebody at your school? Like, if you don't back off,
I'm gonna tell my dad and hecan beat you up. No,
No, I don't think I everdid that. My dad was too nice.
Your dad is very nice? Havebeen? Mark? You should unmute
(35:59):
me on uh oh wait, no, it doesn't matter. Look at this,
MARKO. Look at this, Mark, You're a poop nose. You're
sorry, King of Hearts. Thefans are already mad that I'm playing it.
I didn't even say it was makinga video on it. I just
said I was playing it, andthey're man already. They should be mad
(36:22):
you. You're not gonna appreciate KingdomHeart, so the potential should be appreciated
at I hope you go into itwith an open heart and mine. Mark,
I'm I'm definitely going into it withan open mind. You've watched me
play have I been? Have Ibeen shitting on it? No? You've
been very nice about it. Actually, although I see when there's something that
does annoy you, you go,Clark. That's mostly all the backtracking that
(36:45):
pisses me off. Every time Isee Mark like we'll play it and something
will happen, I see him likepick up his phone and start typing annoyed.
I'm like, hmm, what areyou typing? What do you have
to say here? This is agood game, No Kidlmhart's one is obviously
flawed. Yeah, but you knowwhat isn't flawed? What this button right
(37:07):
here? Wha, Yes, yougotta send letters into our po box right
on the screen right now. Soas you know, it's pouring fucking rain
in California right now, like reallybad. But me and Mark decided to
go outside and track the wilderness andgo pick up some letters that you guys
have so graciously sent in. Andby letters, I mean nothing nothing,
(37:30):
We got nothing. I was tellingher to be fair. We did like
go like five days after. Ithink it takes step longer. I had
people messaging me being like, hey, I've sent stuff, but oh yeah,
I have some people messaging me tosending that they sent packages and stuff.
And fortunately enough, the post Officewill hold on to your package.
So guys, yeah, feel freeto send anything bigger, send anything you'd
like, and then the post Officeis nice enough to uh hold on to
(37:52):
them to hold onto it or whateverfor us and let us know that we
have to pick it up, whichis cool. We're hard trip. You
know, Mark, you should probablygo get my reboot car. Yeah,
I know, for use your Flowberryfizz. Mark, Oh yes got you
got you got him? Yes?Yes, okay, run away. His
(38:14):
friend is fry and he's really good. I told you, Ron, that
was genuine fear. That was genuinefear in your voice. No, that's
not happening on my water. I'lltickhead. Yeah she didn't work. Oh
(38:38):
hell yah okay, but gritty grittyon him. He's the one that killed
me. Yeah, take his gunsto take his take his frenzy. I
really wanted to be a Mickey Mousketeerwhen I was a kid. Yeahlex Selena
Gomez. No, not like SelenaGomez, like Britney Spears. She was
a Mickey Musketeer. Yes, BritneySpears was one. Grian Gosling was one.
(38:59):
Uh, Christina Aguilera was one.Be you know who wasn't Jessica Simpson
whoa very specifically. I guess shejust wasn't good enough. But why did
she apply? She tried out forit at the same time Britney Spears did,
Christina aguilar did, and Ryan Goslingand Justin Timberlake did and they all
got it, by the way,Not Jessica Simpson. No. I used
(39:21):
to If any if anyone watched mefor a long time, they would know
that I used to stream on twitchpretty frequently before I got really like caught
up in it. I feel like, yeah, I mean you can really
there's something about Twitch dreaming that seemsso easy, but when you're actually doing
it and you're trying to keep consistentabout it, it just like dreams my
energy. You know what it isis when you're trying to make Twitch profitable,
(39:43):
it's really not fun. Yeah,really I can't. I can't do
it as like a quick thing,you know, I really can't. There's
a setup. It takes a lotof efforts, very draining. Well.
I also mean like it's either I'mall into it or I'm not into it
at all. You know, Ican't. I can't just stream every night
and then because I want to.I just couldn't be bothered. But I
(40:05):
used to do Fortnite Sunday. It'sthe very short lived series, and look
at these peters. It was soannoying streaming Fortnite because everyone always wanted to
do custom games, which were Ithought was fine. But everyone, of
course I would do to see them, would just streams snipe me, and
it's just then everyone. I wouldhave people come over to me and be
like no, no, no,don't don't attack me. We're friends.
We're friends. I'll help you.And then I'm like, okay, So
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then I have to At a certainpoint, I have like twenty twenty people
not fighting each other, yeah,all following me, and then some fucking
like Judas shows up out of nowherefrom the pile and kills me, kills
everyone. Yeah, Judas almost saidthe other guys, not good. You
(40:52):
got you got him? You gothim? Nice? Oh fuck, oh
Foxer, goddamn turret. I gothim. I got him. I'm gonna
dine to the turret for hell.Oh. Mark, he's really close.
He's in this bush. You gothim, Mark, you got him.
(41:16):
I only threw Mark. I can'tsee him at all. Look Mark,
he's coming. He's right there.He's right there, held his friend.
Oh, get in the car,get in the cart. Well, guys,
wasn't that a fun time playing Fortnite? I really do like Fortnite,
(41:39):
so I wish I could play again. I hope you guys had a nice
time listening to us our casual chatover a nice couple of round a Fortnite
got an epic victory royale. Youknow what, Wait before we close out,
Mark, I want to ask youabout the Mega Mine the new DreamWorks
Mega Mine series. It looks awfulthat does like really ship who to who
Guys Alistairs in Fortnite. What Charlieand Vaggy are in Fortnite? Yeah,
and you get their pilot designs asall scam You can shoot Waggy in the
head with the Auto Frenzy shotgun.Yeah, but look, yes, let's
(00:27):
get so much epic victory royality.Mark, what do you think about the
cool Hey Arnold Knuckles, the Echidnaand Picard crossovers. I'll throw him.
I thought it was pretty cool.I I was telling you the other day,
it feels like paramunt are the smartestat advertising their streaming service, where
(00:51):
they're just people love crossovers. Peoplelove crossovers, and it's nothing but that.
It's like it's Hey, Arnold andKnuckles and Picard and that's smart or
is that just typical? That's genius. HBO doesn't really do that. I
think I did, like billboards ofall their characters. Yeah, they got
Bob Berger hanging out with Alistair theDemon. Let's go to fencing fields and
(01:12):
get the really epic gun. SureI'm not loaded in yet. Oh see,
Okay, every time me and Markplay Fortnite, he always takes forever
to load in, like every time. Yeah, it sucks for those who
are listening on iHeartRadio, Spotify,Apple Podcasts. I just want you guys
to know that this is the epicFortnite ASMR. This Yeah, Fortnite a
SMAR. This is the chill episode. This is the super stoner chill episode.
(01:34):
But whoa look at this. Don'tworry. We're not actually just gonna
sit here and talk about Fortnite thewhole time. We're gonna like, but
we will talk about Fortnite sometimes,so you have to remember that we are
playing Fortnite for your enjoyment. Look, I gotta be ooh even better blue
fucking striker. All right, watchout mark because I'm gonna throw bombs.
(02:00):
Scheme doesn't have friendly fire. Ohere you pitched? I want your son.
What do you think about like theroadblocks effocation of like gaming no where
every game like you see with likePale World and stuff where it's like this
game is Fortnite and fishing and AnimalSimulator and Antimagotchi and bent every game has
(02:25):
to do everything now where it's like, yeah, Fortnite also has like rock
Band Mode and Lego Survival Minecraft Mode. You know what's really funny is I
never thought of it until you broughtit up. Yeah, where like everything
is designed not. I mean it'seven like Netflix has their own like gaming
section. Now everything has to kindof be a hub for you to never
(02:49):
leave shove advertisements in your fast youknow what it is is everything now is
like a monopoly of itself. Nickelodeon, what is it? Brothers potentially like
merging them merging. You know,it's like, oh, it's all in
one. You get all your favoriteshows in one place, which is like
everyone's all the Soyjack Soy and Screambecause they think about Star Trek and bugs,
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bunny throwing, throwing Hey Arnolds inthe air, you know what I
mean. And so my thought thereis kind of just like, well would
I want that in a game?No? Because for Fortnite, I don't
play Fortnite because it has rock Bandand it has Buddy Holly by Weezer,
and you know has leg Yeah,and Charlie Vagina Quest What's what's your name?
(03:39):
Guildquest, guildcrests No, No,Charlie, Oh, I thought it
was like Badge Crest. Yeah.They have so many characters now, you
know. I think that's the thingthat appeals to me is that and it's
a gun game. But anything else, like the lego stuff and like the
(04:02):
rock band stuff, none of thatappeals to me. Yeah, because to
me, it's like you trying tolike retro fit the Fortnite engine to do
all this other stuff will never beas like good as like a triple A
game that is just doing this,that has the actual time. And but
what does he want? Do youthink he has to go to the bathroom?
Yeah, yeah, I'll let himout. Just could you protect me?
(04:24):
I'm gonna be hiding in this corner. Yeah, guys, look at
this. See Vernic is not gonnasee this till she's editing. Wait no,
no, no, no, no, all you listeners out there,
I'm getting my interstellar Rick and Mortysprappiant that someone randomly gifted me one day
on Fortnite, and I'm sprappiating itall around Veronica so that when she gets
(04:47):
back, she'll just be covered infucking Rick Sanchez. Well, like,
I'll stand over here, like Idon't even know what's going on. I'm
getting lout Fortnite rocks. There's aguy right there. I didn't even I
(05:12):
heard the footsteps, but I didn'tput two and two together. Oh my
god, No, no, no, I got him. Hey do you
want this golden SMG? Sure?I don't really like the SMG. I
like having an AR and an SMG. I like having two ars or an
AR and a sniper. Yeah,it's never gonna be as good as a
game that is developed from the grindup, like an engine from the grind
up that is designed to be thatthing. Yeah, where the intention is
(05:35):
there? Yeah know what it is. It's like whenever the iPhone, chem
I and the App store started,really, are you for real? Are
you fucking for real? When doesthat ever happen? Two years we lived
here, It's like when apps werebecoming really big and there was like apps
(05:56):
for everything, like that was thejoke, is that there's an app for
everything, And so they started shittingout all these things where it's like,
oh, you can play like atwo D platform or on your phone,
or you can play like really shittyTetris on your phone, and it's like
people just deal with it because itis like what it is, but it
is like an inferior version where it'slike, well, why carry her on
to game Boy when I could carryherround my phone and plus sneak I guess.
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I guess when it comes to whenit comes to epic games in particular
and Fortnite in particular, I guessthey just want to appeal to wider margins.
Yes, where do you go?Where do you go? Oh shit,
he's almost done, Mark, bindyou bind you one shot? One
(06:39):
shot? Yes, guys, youhave to admit oh sorry. Oh yeah.
So when it comes to epic games, they want to appeal to multiple
facets of their audience. Now thatthey have all these cool characters that you
can play as, you know whatI mean? So why wouldn't they do
Lego? Why wouldn't they do like, what's it called Rocket League? Didn't
(07:01):
they do a Rocket League too?Yeah? They did do Rocket League,
you know what I mean? Orthe Splatoon they want to be splatoon thing.
Yeah, there's like racing in it, not too yeah, yeah,
there's the epic Smurf's racing in Fortnite. See look at this display of characters.
What the fuck am I looking at? You know what I mean?
Yeah? But you know what,though, like it's pretty fucking cool,
it is that that is the thingis that you can't help that everyone's a
(07:24):
little bit soy on the inside.Fortnite is like whoa, this is like
at its prime. But seeing PeterPeter Griffin do the eminem rap it is
pretty sweet. Little Brian Griffin likepinata on his back. Hot Mark,
open up your Epic games really quickwhile this is loading. How many hours
have you logged into Fortnite? Oh? You can check. I'm pretty sure
(07:46):
you could. Let's see does itsay, yeah, Fortnite seven hundred and
five hours? Where do you seethat if you go to your library?
But hear that, folks, sevenhundred and five hours. I probably have
more. You probably do have morecause you've been playing long. Yeah?
Yeah, how many hours there anyyear? Let's find out, shall we?
(08:07):
Eighty seven hundred and sixty So eightthousand, seven hundred and sixty one
tenth of the way there? Yes, yeah, so what here's where the
fortnite A play Fortnite for two years, which means a fifth of your year
has been spent playing Fortnite. Butthat's what Epic wants. That's a fifth
(08:28):
of someone's whole year is on theirservice. You know, that's what I
would want. And think about allthose little babies around the world to come
home from school plus Fortnite go tobad like someone's killing the bot. Let's
get him, Okay, coming?Oh flok, cant you gun? I
(08:52):
cannot find a gun at all.Okak, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna
die. Oh my god, yeah, definitely what yes? Huh? Oh
god, oh god, oh fuck. They're all around me, Mark,
They're gonna kill me. I havea shit ton of guns. If you
come to me, Mark, Ohyou're done there. Yeah, I'm down
(09:13):
with the bault Is. Pick upthe little medallion anyways. Oh I didn't
even see that. What the fuck? Okay, now you can come and
get me. Come down here andget me because I have twenty eight seconds
left. Sure instead of healing yourself, I forgot move in there. Not
only mean you can just get meright now. Oh those people coming?
Oh thought, those are bots.I don't know. Don't want to read.
(09:35):
See now they don't even know we'rehere. So we recently watched all
the episodes, or no, wedidn't watch all of them. We watched
like the first half the first halfof Husband Hotel Hotel after what like four
four years development. It was indevelopment from twenty nineteen, I think the
end of or the start of twentytwenty it wasn't that long after the pilot.
He mind's pretty sure. It waslike at the start of twenty twenty,
(09:56):
Yeah, I was working on hellof a Yeah, you were working
on Hell of Also two in thestart of twenty twenty. Damn that was
I never really knew what to expectfrom USBAN because it was such like a
oh high, Well, can likethis indie team like adapt to working at
like industry standards? In the end, Well, Mark, what do you
(10:18):
think we in the n I feltlike a very like it's not with the
id impressive moments, you know,in moments where it's like, wow,
that came together well, But forthe most part, I think it's kind
of like I wish there was moreof an effort to like constrain themselves to
the allocated like time and budget theywere given, where it's like they,
clearly I have never done this before. What on the scale? Yeah,
(10:41):
it's like you clearly had a biggerstory to tell than the budget you were
given, and like the episode cuntyou were given, and so instead of
trying to like mix something that wouldfit that better, you decided to just
try to cram it in as bestyou can. And I think it comes
together to create a show where it'slike it's missing all the meat. You
(11:03):
know. Has Been's issue is thatit's really got not strong writing. I
also think that it would be reallycool if we actually saw this shit happening
instead of just watching these characters standin the lobby and talk about about it.
Yeah, yeah, it kicks wet. Like again, we only saw
the first half, so it couldit could have the most fantastic ending ever.
But if I was judging this basedoff like the first half of the
(11:24):
series where it's like, oh,new Amazon Prime show, I've never heard
of, this has been Hotel before, you know, I feel like there'd
be nothing in it that would makeme or like, clearly, even knowing
it, I didn't have any interestto try and finish it because it just
felt like it was just like alwaysmoving, always trying to get through it
and but not moving forward. It'slike the problem with the Bear. It's
like the problem with like the Curse, where it wants to get to all
(11:46):
these Yeah, all the ship isimplied, Oh, Alistair has this like
contract of his own that he hasto adhere to. It's just implied in
a song later because lore it wantsto be different from the pilot and separate
itself from the pilot, but becauseit only has eight episodes, it also
wants you to be like, Okay, I just assume the pilot happened in
some form, you know, Soit feels like the show has just kind
(12:09):
of like started, you know,it started, and yeah, and it
continues with an implication. Everything isjust like off the cuff said over here,
everything is like, yeah, watcha Q and a like read the
comic, watch the original pilot,and it's like, I want this show
to be able to stand on itsown. It's like, even Gillian,
that's exactly what it is. IsBi've had to retell the same story over
(12:31):
and over again, and now thatshe's finally retold it, it's still not
satisfying. It is just it isjust a case where it's like like I'm
not gonna I'm not gonna sit andcall it like the worst thing un Planet
Earth. I don't know, Idon't think it's the worst thing, but
it's definitely a thing where it's likethis could have been so much more if
you kind of constrained yourself and didn'tfeel the need to like tell this exact
(12:52):
story if you knew that you couldn'thave the time and budget to actually make
it as good a version of thatstory as it could be. You can
clearly tell where all the hard worklies. Mostly in the songs. Yeah,
mostly in the songs. But Iwould argue that you can't. I
can't understand a single fucking word that'sbeing said in any of those fucking songs.
(13:15):
It was Boss of People. Ohthere's our bots. No, no,
no, it's not got him twentyfour. I think you remember this
guy Nice, his friends up heregot him for seventy Nice. Oh oh
(13:41):
fuck, Oh he's one shot.One shot. He's not that good,
so you got him? Hey yougo? And there's a flowberry face yeah,
where it's just like yeah, alot of it's gone into the music,
and it's just a thing where Iwish it were more consistent. I
wish it were a more consistent package. And it's easy to be like,
well, X twenty four, onlygive them this much time, or like
(14:03):
oh, well in season two andit's like no, like this, or
maybe Adam Balen and Viv aren't fuckingaccountants and don't know how to manage their
budget as well as they think theydo well, it's like, yeah,
you've been given this much budget andthis much time, and instead of like
making sure your story can fit aroundthat, it's like, well, how
can we take this story that clearlyneeds more time and condense it? When
(14:24):
I feel like the better option wouldhave been to spend this season like establishing
these characters and why I'm meant tolike them and why I'm meant to care
about Charlie trying to redeem these peoplebecause everyone in Hell is such a piece
of shit who doesn't even seem tolike most of them don't even really seem
to care. It's like a weirdlike thing where you don't figure out like
(14:46):
is there an economy here? Isthere? Like there's money and stuff like
that, like what's of extermination?But it just looks like all these characters
do all day and this time isrun around murdering each other, you know,
like eating each other. And it'slike, even if they were going
to get extremated by angels, they'realready killing each other to begin with.
I don't know. I think thereare some things that I'm like, that's
not very you didn't figure that out, I thought, I And it's like
(15:09):
I think that stuff's important because youneed that dying time to actually explore the
concept of the show and have Charlietalk to the people in this time and
discover why these people are worth tryingto ring and I guess because they're her
people. She's a person from hell. But it's to me, it's like
(15:31):
we never get the time. That'swhat I'm saying. It's all implied because
she's this. It's all implied.Everything is fucking implied. We don't actually
see it. And that's what Iwish the show had most of all,
where I could I could actually careabout why any of these characters are doing
it, because it just kind ofstarts with them already wanting to do it.
Everyone's motivation is kind of already inplay us The whole concept. I
(15:54):
think that they had to kind ofchange your mind for this version compared to
the pilot is we don't actually reallysee the hotel be of any use except
for like when it comes to surPincious and Angel Dust, at least from
the episodes I saw again that thefirst half of the season, but again
this half a season, but wedon't actually see it like be this h
(16:15):
I always thought that has Been Hotelhad like a really really good concept for
an episodic show where it's like wesee all these different like demons getting redeemed.
But that seems to be a trendwith VIV shows where they all kind
of start with this idea that's like, oh, that's perfect for like unique
setups or even like hell of aBoss. It's like, oh, an
imp like assassin company for like pissedoff people who are like in hell who
(16:40):
want you to like go to thesurface world and nothing. Yeah, the
show doesn't take advantage of that becauseit gets so caught up in the character
stuff. Or I feel like HasBeen Hotels the same way, but it
just kind of like runs with thecharacter stuff before actually shaking the time for
you to like get to know anyof them, really care about any of
(17:00):
them. You're supposed to care aboutthem because they are the characters, you
know, not because of anything actuallygoing on. And I don't know that's
my that's my two cents where it'slike I don't feel that strongly about it.
It's why I would never make avideo one. It's been a tell
because it's like it's not the worstthing in the world, but it's just
it's not for me and it's notwhat I want from like a show.
(17:21):
Yeah, I don't know. Ijust I like the idea so much that
I wish it were more. Itlike I said, you got a letterbox
thing where it's like I wish thisshow could have been made in a day
where seasons got like forty episodes sothey actually had the time like this,
it's like if Stevens had You think, if it had the proper budget and
(17:42):
time, it could have been obviouslybetter than what we got. Yeah.
I think it's like, yeah,it's like a Stephen Universe, are like
Adventure Time or like those kind ofshows. It's like if they all started
in the second or third season whenlike the lowers are even happening and the
show is actually happening. Yeah,where it's like I always liked or like
(18:02):
even like Gravity Falls. You know, it's like if season two was the
first season where it's like I wishI like when shows kind of were given
the time and budget and the likefifth from networks to be like, okay,
you can have like twenty thirty episodesto kind of get into the groove
of things. I think it alsogets the writers more comfortable with working with
these characters. But it's just kindof like Has Been Hotel to me,
(18:23):
is like the result of like abigger issue of TV these days, where
nothing is given enough time. It'slike we talk about it all the time
with like the Curse or the Bearor like Barry, where it's like,
I wish this show could have hadmore than like six episodes a season.
I see. That's the thing isI wouldn't want more episodes of Has Been
Hotel. I would have wanted vivto have either shortened down lore and things
(18:48):
that she felt were necessary to talk, like to talk about these characters in
such a little time that she had, you know, constrain it down and
just kind of make it have abet or follow through, because there are
certain things where I'm like, whyare we being introduced to this at this
point? What does this have tolike? This has nothing to do with
this or oh okay, I'm gonnahave to wait for season two for you
(19:08):
to talk about that, all right, you know, and then when you
talk about it, it's not asimpactful as you thought it was it was
going to be, or how itwas brought up to be, because they
have to move on to something else, yes, because they have to talk
about some other characters trauma m hm. So I don't know, it's just
like it's not for me. It'snot even yeah, it's not like I
wish there was more because I wantto watch more. It's morets. I
(19:30):
wish there was more because I like, I wish I could actually like I
watch it and it kind of justgoes in one ear and at the other
like where it's like it's so shortand really like nothing that I'm just kind
of like, oh, that's it, you know, it's over. I
guess where I almost wish there wasmore to actually get a grasp on high
actually feel about it other than goinglike, well, it's not for me,
I guess because you know what itis. There's such there's really not
(19:55):
a lot of information given to youabout these characters, and like we had
said before, everything has been fuckingapplied. So I'm just kind of surprised
at how much people are like obsessedwith this when I'm like like meet chew
on yeah yeah, yeah. Whereit's like there's some songs where I'm like
that's a fun song, that's acatchy song, or that could have been
(20:15):
better, that song could have beenbetter. Well, I mean like there's
certain there's certain parts where I'm like, I like, even even when we
were watching it, I think therewas like a part where I turned around
and I was like, you know, if I was if I was twelve,
I would have really loved this.Like if I was a retard,
I would have really loved this.Yeah, I know, it's just it's
like, I don't know, It'sjust it's not for me, and there's
(20:37):
nothing here for me to really eventalk about with it. It's kind of
like that's kind of like this justuh, yeah, it's not for me.
I could see what Vivn was tryingto do. There's a lot of
admiration I have for the artists whoreally pulled off these shots and these like
with like the long clear like limitedtime and yes money they were given.
I can appreciate their work, andI can appreciate all the all of the
(21:00):
honest artists who really put themselves outthere for this project. You know,
But I'm like, I just don'tdon't. I don't like it. Sixteen
got them friends mine, it comeson here. I'm gonna use this Flowberry
(21:21):
Fizz. He's trying to heal.You want to go up to him.
Oh, you're already going up there. Okay, all right, Well I'm
gonna be a little bit later thanyou got them. Nice. Yeah,
it's just it's really it's obviously notmade for me, and I can't help
a look at it and go likethat is just every show now, nothing
(21:44):
is given the time to really reallyflush things out. Yeah, everything feels
like it has to be rushed,And it's just kind of makes me sad
that that is like today's media,because it's something that happens with so many
shows we try to watch where we'rejust like I wish, I wish there
were more. I wish they wouldhave explained this, Like why couldn't we
opened with the extermination so we couldreally grasp but how how deeply this impacts
(22:07):
Charlie doesn't in fact Charlie so much, it doesn't really we don't really see
how it impacts any of the worldeither. No, everyone's just back to
like murdering each other in the streetsanyway, So it's like, well,
what's the big deal about the extramination. They're already killing each other exactly.
Oh, there's only six people leftnice. Can we win our first match?
That would be pretty sick. Look, there's the last two teams are
(22:30):
right there. Oh nice, Youwant to run over to them. Careful,
they're a good shot, dude.Oh my god, got in for
one sixteen, got for one offive sixty seven. Where are they?
(22:53):
Oh there they went inside. Goingto run over to them. They're healing.
Careful, I don't have me.I don't have anything to get up
there. Yes, yes, dude, fuck hell yeah, but funck hell
yeah. Let's go pretty sweet,pretty sweet? I think that was it.
(23:17):
Do you think they have the coolepic veggie skin in Fortnite? I
wish I would give that my vbucks. You spend bucks on the veggie
skin? Yeah, on Veggie andCharles Veggie and uh Charlie and that the
other one and the one stupid one. You know what's weird? Though nothing
(23:42):
else is coming out soon that Ilike care about. You know what's weird?
Yes, Saw eleven Saw eleven guysthe new the new topic for the
channels. It's just been revealed thatSaul eleven is now currently in the Words
and Mark Hoffman is coming back.Yeah, and so they're filming in March.
We need to try to get beextras on that movie. Those movies,
(24:07):
like infamously don't have many extras.So I'm curious, what do you
mean they have the people who getmurdered, get you want to get murdered.
I would love to get murdered intosaw Trap. I think I have
a very realistic scream. Yeah,you think you could sell it? I
think I could sell it. Ithink I could sell it. Okay,
Okay, yeah, Mark, giveme your best I'm dying scream right now,
top your lungs. Okay, ifyou could visit one of these little
(24:30):
islands or these little places here onthe Fortnite Land, I'd love to go
to Snooty Steps. You would liketo go to Snooe Steps? Irol.
Yeah, that's like Luca Luca World. Yes, that says that, remember
Luca. Yeah, you know they'rereleasing all those in theaters. Again,
they never kem in theaters. Itwas COVID. They all cameing Disney plus
(24:52):
so Disney recently. I think Disneyrecently put a Soul in theaters for the
first time. And now who wouldwant to go see that? Hit Me
had like four hundred thousand dollars,which is pretty abysmal for like a theater
box office. But you know whythat is because who the fuck heard about
it? I didn't hear about it. Yeah, I didn't even know they
(25:12):
were doing that. Also, whywould I go to the theater to see
a movie I can watch for free? Yeah? But you know what's cool
though, you know it just poppedin my head. What that little fat
kid on TikTok who everyone liked posts. Do you remember him? Oh,
the one that's like with the glasses. Does the box get you? Now?
(25:33):
Someone got me? But they werein their last shot and they drove
away. Yeah, they'll kid withthe glasses where he's singing the five minutes
of freak sign. His dad's sittingthere miserable. Can someone can you please
show that can wait to meet you? So you win? The animal trated
family up and real soon try yourbest to hold on and sadity, that's
(25:56):
him. They're almost dead. Uh, oh my god, oh my god,
give you this. You got this. I'm lagging stored. Blame it
on the leg. Huh, blameit on the leg. You're yes,
(26:19):
Oh, give me your fucking crown. Okay, okay, all right,
it's pretty good. Thank you.I do love that there is like some
form of Brian Griffin and Fortnite.I although I think they should add Brian
to Fortnite. He's in the coolneck or they gonna have Rupert in Fortnite,
but he's got like the oh mygod buff Rupert. Yeah, you
(26:40):
could splash, Oh my god,you could chase your friend and splash them.
And yes, Stewie as a backblame, that'd be cool. Stewie
in the backpack. You see theSpongeBob movie recently got a restored in full
HDR. Really it's like really likeimproved the colors. Have you seen that
thing on Twitter where it's like,oh, due to the film or like
(27:03):
the cell like photography process in makingin the making of sailor Moon, the
colors that you see that have likea natural pink tone to it is actually
incorrect. It's not the intended colors. Yeah, I saw that, and
people are like arguing over which islike the more valid better I guess because
like, yeah, girls over theworld of me at that like pink tone.
(27:25):
They're aesthetic, so they don't likefeeling invalidated. You know. That's
definitely not like like the white hueare the original, like non pink version
is the original. That's like sayingSpongeBob should like be gray because he looks
gray in all the season two episodesbecause of the mastering. Oh it's the
bot o, where's his friend?There? It is you? I really
(27:48):
sure? Oh he's one shot Markand the Bot two. Yeah, editor,
cut that part where I died.Jimmy cut that part out. Jimmy
Beast. Every time you say JimmyBeast, I always think Jimmy Dean,
like Jimmy Dean sausages. You knowwhat I heard in this new show,
(28:10):
Oh yeah, Clone High season two. They reference Baba Booie, do they?
And I'd like to think that waslike partially inspired by us. I
would like to believe that too.But let's be honest. We didn't invite,
we didn't invite Baba Booie. Wedidn't invent. We didn't invent Baba
Booie. We invented. We didn'tinvent Babbah Booie. But I think a
(28:33):
little bit more than than Howard Stern, we might have popularized Baba Booie for
the kids of today. You know, we will never have something like Howard
Stern ever, again, we willnever have somebody as mean Joe Rogan.
Joe Rogan is not mean like HowardStern. Like Howard Stern will like Howard
Stern will believe whatever tabloids have tosay, bring you into his fucking office
(28:56):
or his like radio room, andthen get you to talk about it when
you're like, h please, canwe not talk about this? And he'll
always keep bringing it back to thatsubject, even though you'd already asked him
not to. Yeah, yeah,I don't know. Howard Stern's kind of
sleazy. Yeah, I never likedthat kind of thing. Like watching the
Billy West one is really awkward,where the Anna Nicole Smith one. That
(29:17):
one's really fucking oh yeah, wherethey keep calling her fan, he keeps
calling her fat. He's like,get on a scale, and she's like,
no, Howard, I'm not gettingon a scale, Like stop it.
Why would she ever come back tothe show. I mean, he's
a popular radio show talk show hostat that time, and she was kind
of dwindling and she needed obviously somepublicity. But the only publicity that she's
(29:37):
getting is how fat she's getting orhow drunk she is on her television show.
Because her show is like one ofthe first of reality television. Yeah,
yeah, we don't. We don'thave things like Howard Stern anymore.
You can't. You can't do that. No, you can't. And I
argue you were probably a little bitbetter off for it. You can't be
too mean, And I guess,yeah, we are better off because didn't
(30:00):
she like kill herself? Not whydid she did kill herself, but that
I don't you don't think they wererelated. I mean, she was depressed,
and he definitely like to her face, vocalized how people looked at her.
So yes, he contributed to herlike twinkling mental like or self image.
Yeah, yeah, there's definitely apoint where it's like, Okay,
it's too far, you know.Definitely I would agree. But I'm also
(30:23):
kind of like, sometimes it's kindof funny being mean. Sometimes it is
kind of funny being mean. I'llgive you that. I'm not saying you
should be mean all the time,and I'm not saying you should be mean
to make yourself laugh. But I'msaying sometimes when you in an uncomfortable situation,
you know someone's mean. I hadit with the fucking grenade. Yes,
(30:47):
nice, Yes, I don't thinkthose guys are real though, Oh
yes, all this yeah loop,Oh yes, oh this guy was fake.
Oh there's another guy here. Therewe go. So how would you
(31:18):
rank this season a Fortnite? Howdo you like the modded weapons? I
think modding the weapons is fucking sickin this game. Yeah, but you
know what, they nerfed it becausethey used to have, like you can
mod they used to have like snipersthat I feel like, we're fucking awesome
to where they're really shit now.They used to be so fucking cool though,
Mark, would you say that realitytelevision would makes people stupid? No?
(31:49):
I think stupid people are stupid.I think reality TV just kinda like
it's hard to describe, kind ofputs them in a play. Or they're
more susceptible to being tricked, youknow, tricked like tricked into believing something
is real when it's not. Ohlike the audience. Yeah, like the
(32:10):
stupid people are the audience, youknow. Okay, And hey, and
if if you're not a stupid personyou like reality TV, that means you
could just enjoy it for what itis, which is entertainment, you know,
which is even better. But that'sthat's what I'm asking is, do
you think people who enjoy reality televisionare stupid. No, because you can
enjoy reality television and be completely awareof how like dumb it is. I
(32:31):
just remember growing up and like thatwas that was a common discourse was,
yeah, watch reality television, shlike you're a fucking idiot. I definitely,
I definitely don't think that's true.I think just if you're a person
who watches reality television and you thinkeverything you're seeing is real, we probably
can't go there. And you thinkwhat you're seeing is is real, then
(32:52):
you are a stupid person. Butnot not because you watch reality TV.
It's just because you're dumb. It'strue, Yeah, you know what you
mean. I would argue that ifyou indulge in certain types of reality television,
you are kind of you're you're dumb. Oh yeah, yeah, there's
definitely like there's I mean, Imean, like what reality TV do we
(33:14):
watch? Like Milf Manner and I'venever seen that? What the fuck?
That hurt me? Did you seethat? No? That hurt me?
That took like all my health.I'm trying to think what reality TV we
even consistently. I guess we watchGene was showing us ninety day Fiance or
it's like that doesn't make you stupid. It's just like I'm watching this fake
(33:36):
scenario of these fake people, likeyou know, being fat each other.
No, I would okay, watchingthat doesn't make you stupid. But then
it's like, Okay, this kindof discourse was happening around the time Jersey
Shore was going on, where it'slike, oh, if you're watching Jersey
Shore, you're a fucking nimrod.But then at the same time, like
now that I'm adult, I'm anadult and I've watched Jersey Shore, I'm
like, well, Jersey Shore isjust fucking funny. Yeah. I think
(33:58):
it depends on how you're looking atit. If you look at is entertainment
is like look how dumb these peopleare, then yeah, like you're probably
not stupid. But if you're lookingat it in the sense of like like
all these guys are awesome, Likethese guys a rule, like, if
you want to be any of theguys on Jersey Shore, then you're stupid.
If you want to be Mike thesituation where you hit your head on
again against a concrete wall, youwant to do it, you should probably
(34:29):
get the fuck out of here.Words. Yeah, I don't think the
media you consume it all matters.And man, it's like to be people
who watch Blue are the stupid,you know, like I mean kind of
yeah, if you're watching Louie andyou're in a full drown adult kind of
yep, there's another guys, you'rewrite right, you gotta yes nice really
(34:52):
quick. Guys. Next week isthe big Valentine's Day special, So send
in your we're gonna read it thepo box stuff too. Okay, guys,
I don't know if you understand,but right now it is pouring rain.
Ok yeah, it's flood floods inin California, really bad floods.
(35:13):
Right. Uh? Oh got rita? Oh damn what what? Okay,
we'll do one more. It's notFlynn, fuck you if you're watching this,
dude, if you're If it's notFlynn is watching this right now,
(35:35):
Mark, tell him, tell himright now. What are you gonna do?
Then? I'm gonna tell my dadand he's gonna have it. Have
you ever threatened somebody at your school? Like, if you don't back off,
I'm gonna tell my dad and hecan beat you up. No,
No, I don't think I everdid that. My dad was too nice.
Your dad is very nice? Havebeen? Mark? You should unmute
(35:59):
me on uh oh wait, no, it doesn't matter. Look at this,
MARKO. Look at this, Mark, You're a poop nose. You're
sorry, King of Hearts. Thefans are already mad that I'm playing it.
I didn't even say it was makinga video on it. I just
said I was playing it, andthey're man already. They should be mad
(36:22):
you. You're not gonna appreciate KingdomHeart, so the potential should be appreciated
at I hope you go into itwith an open heart and mine. Mark,
I'm I'm definitely going into it withan open mind. You've watched me
play have I been? Have Ibeen shitting on it? No? You've
been very nice about it. Actually, although I see when there's something that
does annoy you, you go,Clark. That's mostly all the backtracking that
(36:45):
pisses me off. Every time Isee Mark like we'll play it and something
will happen, I see him likepick up his phone and start typing annoyed.
I'm like, hmm, what areyou typing? What do you have
to say here? This is agood game, No Kidlmhart's one is obviously
flawed. Yeah, but you knowwhat isn't flawed? What this button right
(37:07):
here? Wha, Yes, yougotta send letters into our po box right
on the screen right now. Soas you know, it's pouring fucking rain
in California right now, like reallybad. But me and Mark decided to
go outside and track the wilderness andgo pick up some letters that you guys
have so graciously sent in. Andby letters, I mean nothing nothing,
(37:30):
We got nothing. I was tellingher to be fair. We did like
go like five days after. Ithink it takes step longer. I had
people messaging me being like, hey, I've sent stuff, but oh yeah,
I have some people messaging me tosending that they sent packages and stuff.
And fortunately enough, the post Officewill hold on to your package.
So guys, yeah, feel freeto send anything bigger, send anything you'd
like, and then the post Officeis nice enough to uh hold on to
(37:52):
them to hold onto it or whateverfor us and let us know that we
have to pick it up, whichis cool. We're hard trip. You
know, Mark, you should probablygo get my reboot car. Yeah,
I know, for use your Flowberryfizz. Mark, Oh yes got you
got you got him? Yes?Yes, okay, run away. His
(38:14):
friend is fry and he's really good. I told you, Ron, that
was genuine fear. That was genuinefear in your voice. No, that's
not happening on my water. I'lltickhead. Yeah she didn't work. Oh
(38:38):
hell yah okay, but gritty grittyon him. He's the one that killed
me. Yeah, take his gunsto take his take his frenzy. I
really wanted to be a Mickey Mousketeerwhen I was a kid. Yeahlex Selena
Gomez. No, not like SelenaGomez, like Britney Spears. She was
a Mickey Musketeer. Yes, BritneySpears was one. Grian Gosling was one.
(38:59):
Uh, Christina Aguilera was one.Be you know who wasn't Jessica Simpson
whoa very specifically. I guess shejust wasn't good enough. But why did
she apply? She tried out forit at the same time Britney Spears did,
Christina aguilar did, and Ryan Goslingand Justin Timberlake did and they all
got it, by the way,Not Jessica Simpson. No. I used
(39:21):
to If any if anyone watched mefor a long time, they would know
that I used to stream on twitchpretty frequently before I got really like caught
up in it. I feel like, yeah, I mean you can really
there's something about Twitch dreaming that seemsso easy, but when you're actually doing
it and you're trying to keep consistentabout it, it just like dreams my
energy. You know what it isis when you're trying to make Twitch profitable,
(39:43):
it's really not fun. Yeah,really I can't. I can't do
it as like a quick thing,you know, I really can't. There's
a setup. It takes a lotof efforts, very draining. Well.
I also mean like it's either I'mall into it or I'm not into it
at all. You know, Ican't. I can't just stream every night
and then because I want to.I just couldn't be bothered. But I
(40:05):
used to do Fortnite Sunday. It'sthe very short lived series, and look
at these peters. It was soannoying streaming Fortnite because everyone always wanted to
do custom games, which were Ithought was fine. But everyone, of
course I would do to see them, would just streams snipe me, and
it's just then everyone. I wouldhave people come over to me and be
like no, no, no,don't don't attack me. We're friends.
We're friends. I'll help you.And then I'm like, okay, So
(40:27):
then I have to At a certainpoint, I have like twenty twenty people
not fighting each other, yeah,all following me, and then some fucking
like Judas shows up out of nowherefrom the pile and kills me, kills
everyone. Yeah, Judas almost saidthe other guys, not good. You
(40:52):
got you got him? You gothim? Nice? Oh fuck, oh
Foxer, goddamn turret. I gothim. I got him. I'm gonna
dine to the turret for hell.Oh. Mark, he's really close.
He's in this bush. You gothim, Mark, you got him.
(41:16):
I only threw Mark. I can'tsee him at all. Look Mark,
he's coming. He's right there.He's right there, held his friend.
Oh, get in the car,get in the cart. Well, guys,
wasn't that a fun time playing Fortnite? I really do like Fortnite,
(41:39):
so I wish I could play again. I hope you guys had a nice
time listening to us our casual chatover a nice couple of round a Fortnite
got an epic victory royale. Youknow what, Wait before we close out,
Mark, I want to ask youabout the Mega Mine the new DreamWorks
Mega Mine series. It looks awfulthat does like really ship who to who
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