Ode to MatPat

Mark and Veronica FINALLY return after a short Christmas Hiatus to visit family, and with their return tell stories of the strange creatures encountered in Ireland, as well as saying goodbye to beloved Husband, Father and Theorist... Matthew Patrick.

Meeting Halfway is a weekly podcast featuring LSMark and Veronica as they interview creators and artists that have been both life-long and contemporary inspirations for their collective creative worlds.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
You know what's so weird. Itfeels like so much has happened since we
last recorded. Do you remember whatthe last recording was. I don't think
we used the last it was sethMcFarland Loves Bubba. Oh my god,
that's right. Yeah, I editedthat one. That was like two months
ago. In reality, I know, we're like still still seem to seem
everything. But we were expecting tobe not in this set anymore. Yeah,

(00:21):
we're planning on moving. We wereexpecting to move the office and that
didn't work. It's been delayed likeby like forever. No, no,
no, not forever delayed. Sowe'll uh, we kind of like had
to get everything back in reset upand this is going to be the set
again. New rule, no weenies. Yes, Sonny is not alled on

(00:42):
as a guest anywhere. You shouldtell everyone where we got the weenie sign,
Adrian, if you remember from ourfive Nights at Freddy's episode, got
us this from for a secret sentIt got me. It got me it
for a secret sand gift, whichwhich I'm very gracious of. Why to
thank you. So all you weeniesout there, get out, Get out
weenies. Viewer con ghost to zerofuck, yeah, no, I know.

(01:11):
It's it's been so long. Ifeel like so much has happened.
There's so many times in the pastcouple of months where I've been like,
that's a topic I want to talkabout in the podcast. That's a topic
I want to talk about. Now, it's like there's so many that I
can't, Like, I guess,what are some topics that you want to
talk about. Matt Pet's gone.We make so many Matt pat jokes and
I he's just missing missing an actionquick, guys. Can you believe it?

(01:32):
He went and grewed up. Yeah, the Matt pet quit and he
went to his wife's room and knockedon the door and stow. Yeah,
I'm surprised. But also I thinkabout it, and I'm like, that
was pretty smart because last year hesold the channel the lunar X and it's
like, okay, you catch that. You catch it? Say like he
completely like sold the rights to hiseverything. And then he's like, okay,

(01:53):
bye, law I respect, Irespect the hustle. I get it.
He's would you do that? Wouldyou sell smart to Elon Musk?
Sure you would Musk. I don'tknow he would deal with it, but
the price right, Yeah, wellwhat's the price number where you wouldn't care.
I always figured it like a subscriberis a dollar, you know,

(02:15):
a subscriber has got so you thinkyour account is worth half a million dollars.
Maybe not worth but if someone wantedto give me that, then I
don't think they would make more thanhalf of a million dollars off of what
you have eventually. But I don'tknow. I always feel like selling a
channel though, is like Matt patputs a lot of like like he's pretty

(02:36):
real in his apology or is leavingvideophology. It's just a theory, a
game theory, thank you. I'mso used to it. But it's the
kind of thing where he doesn't takethe time to acknowledge how like people are
not going to care as much aboutany of his channels now that he is
not the star of it anymore.Like that's just the sad reality of making

(02:58):
your fiuce the brand of something forlike personality ten years, you know.
You know, speaking of brands,Mark, we do have one cool brand
deal we have to shout out,Oh yeah, some ordinary gamers podcast candy
guys like Mudahar candy. I wasgraciously gifted this by Gemer from Mars.

(03:20):
These are the Sour Boys Epic Edition, some ordinary podcast. I tried it.
I tried some earlier when we wereepically fortniting, but now you have
to try some. Yeah, thisis my my endorsement. I'm like,
I don't even know what it is. It's like weird like tape. It's
like, uh, like sour candytape. Yeah, I'm feeling it,
like take it out of the package, show them. It's just it's it's

(03:42):
so much. I can't even takeit all. He was giving me shit
yesterday when we were playing Fortnite becausehe was like, don't eat it all.
I'm like, trust me. Iwas like, I want to talk
about on the podcast or do astest on the podcast. No way,
I can eat all of it.There's so much. Oh my god,
the sugar is getting everywhere. Iknow. I know that's why I never
got more than that's even more thanwhat you should you should have. Oh
it's not sour. I mean it'sreally it's so it's not sour in a

(04:08):
bad way, but it's sour.It's not sour in a bad way.
You know, it's a shower boys, but it's it's yesterday when Veronica took
it, she was like reacting likemuch, but I I guess I said
a lot of sour candy is asa kid. I really like the flavor
though, good. So if youever wanted to make a meeting halfway candy,

(04:30):
what would the flavor be? Oh, it would have to be lemon
something, maybe lesbion raspberry. Sure, yeah, that would go on.
I don't like it. No,lemon, lemon lemon tasted candy is fine.
I feel like lemon cake, orlike I love lemon cake. Yeah,
no, I can't. Wedding cakesgonna be lemon cake half that and
half vanilla. But no, whatare your thoughts on Matt pat leaving?

(04:54):
Like I thought you care? ButI know you weirdly like rhynd for Matt
Pat Like I was there when MattPet's started. Yeah, which are weird
because you were You're so like,oh Matt pet like for a while.
No, no, no, Markand Sonny like to put on Matt Pat
all the time, anytime we're gooning, anytime we're hanging, anytime at all,
fortniting whatever. They always put onthe new game theory of every or

(05:17):
food theory or clothing only if it'ssomething interesting. None of it is interesting.
I've never watched clothes. Listen.I stand by this. I've been
saying this for almost like ten yearsnow. Okay, Matt Pat peaked at
finafe theories and that's the only thinghe was good at, and he knew
he couldn't get in the game anymore. He knew his tired ass had to
fucking go home because people like DocoWop Mop in the floor with him.

(05:40):
But then she puts on while fortniting, I'm gonna watch Matt Pat Best boobs
and gaming, And then she watcheslike if I didn't even know that that
existed. The only reason why Iknow, the only reason why I know
that that exists is because of Markand Jane. But she's watching it for
like the third time, and thenhe's the third time, you know,
and then and then and then he'slike, oh Luigi's cock size Matt pet

(06:01):
game theory, I'll watch that.That wasn't the related and it was very
interesting. That was an interesting one. But I'll tell you this though,
the only reason why I watched theboob theory one was just to take a
snippet of it to put in aCD. I mean that's not true.
Hello Internet, Welcome to Game Theorythe theme today natural knockers versus falsified fun

(06:23):
bags. You made the CD likea week ago. We by the CD
three days ago. We watched thisthis Game Theory like three months ago event
TV because Mark and Jane wanted toshow me very true. Look, he
has nothing on me. She hasto pull this one out of the guys.
I wanna put a message from fromGen right here confirming. No,

(06:44):
here's a message from Jane actually confirming. I'm right, getting back to the
getting back to what you had askedme. I was a big fan of
Matt pat I was there for thebeginning and I really liked his The number
one thing I liked was is fanaftheories occasionally the science ones because it was
like game Bill nine. I missedwhen it was like how much does a
bullet bill way? You know,like I like that kind of stuff.

(07:06):
That's the stuff I like. Thestuff that I didn't like is like sans
is actually wor like lower. It'slike and he knew that he could bank
off of the lore stuff, whichis why I say he peaked with the
finef stuff. You know what Imean because the one. Yeah, he
was the only one really doing it. He was like the only one who
was like talking to Scott Coffin whenthe games are being like made, having
like he was the only one ScottCoffin would like tea talk to comments on.

(07:29):
And I remember that blew my mindthat he was getting teased by the
creator about like nope, you gotthe theory wrong, law you've got this,
you know, like that was amazing, but now too old. He
has a kid, he's got twokids, Bonnie and Chica. Shut up,
shut up. He doesn't have twokids though, Okay, they're not
named Bonnie and Chica. Yes,Vanessa, yeah, Gregory, And what's

(07:55):
the little bit from Vanessa? Nofor little girl Piper. That's the actress
Cassie. That's what she is.Remember in the one We Plaid Ruin?
Were you playing a little girl?She was annoying? Oh yeah, yeah,
I do remember that. See thatgame. I don't remember anything about
that game. It was except theending with ship. I just I heeded

(08:15):
the the acting and it I feltlike it was so like it just took
me out of it hearing like thislittle girl being like no, no,
no, this is not how farNuts of Freddy should be going. Well,
I almost hit that one. Ibetter watch my step. Yeah for
a horror gum, no, Ishouldn't. But also well, it's all

(08:35):
a thriller. Yeah. Yeah,I wouldn't say horror. But park ride,
yeah, the park the smiler.No, like a little dark ride
where you're just going through and thensomething pops auty and goes boom. You
know, do you like those ridesas dark room rids. I've never been
on one that's like energy in mebefore. Oh okay, wait, I
think I think I hear a littleGuys, look at this. Oh he

(09:01):
just wants to lead on. Butyou know what else we did in the
past couple of months, which isalso why we weren't uploading the podcast.
We went to Ireland. We wentto Ireland. I went for the first
time in two years. I haven'tbeen because of uh VISA like stuff,
immigration stuff. I was kind oflike in Limbo. I was kind of
like locked here. Yeah for ayear. Oh he's really biting hard.

(09:26):
Okay, okay, no more winchyou win, you win, you win,
you win, that's right straight.We were yeah, okay, So
we were in Ireland for three weeks. We couldn't bring a little winch with
us. We tried to, Yeah, we did want to, but we
just couldn't. We didn't have enoughtime. But that's okay because it wouldn't
have been It wouldn't have been fun. It would have been hard. Yeah,

(09:46):
you, it wouldn't have been ableto travel what we wouldn't have been
able to travel around with this littlewinching around and it would have been too
cold for him. Yeah, andit would have been him like stuck,
like we're going to art for aday and it's like he's just kind of
stuck in the heights. I wouldfeel bad for him. You would have,
Lola. But no, Ireland wasfun, guys. I so like
it took me until like the daybefore we were leaving to be like,

(10:07):
oh fuck, we were going torecord a Friar Tucks like video. We
were wanting to interview Tom the Mice, We're gonna interview Michael Well. We
were gonna do a Friar Tucks tastetest for everybody so they could see.
But you know what it is,when you're in Ireland and I don't have
a car there, she doesn't havea car there, You feel like so
limited to where it's not like,oh, let's go to Friar Tucks,

(10:28):
pick up some stuff, take itback to my house and then we'll film
a video. Yo. It wasso like it was like, well,
let's go to our tucks, let'ssit here for six hours until we get
picked up later. Yeah. Yeah, which isn't like a bad thing because
there was a lot to do around. Yeah. Yeah, it is very
limiting. Yeah. Really you feellimited to what you can do because your
schedule is all like worked around youryour parents and family's availability, who graciously

(10:52):
get very very kind to give usa ride and feed us and house us.
You know what. I like.I really liked taking the trends in
Ireland me too. It's like anice little adventure. It feels like you're
actually like a person in the world, you know. Yeah, I know,
you mean you're one other train seatthat's full. Yeah. I always
really liked also just walking around,like aimlessly walking around, like walking around

(11:15):
Dublin or walking around Belfast. SeeI would have never did that until I
met you, and suddenly it's like, oh, there there's a weird thing
whenever people are visiting Ireland, whichhas only been Veronica, so far,
but eventually there's like a weird senseof like patriotism that I never had before
towards it. You know, thisis this thing, this is where this
happened. You know this is cool, this goes alright, or this is
the local chippy that we always goto, yeah, where it's like just

(11:37):
something so second uture to me,or like coming back and seeing all the
stuff that's different and it's like,oh that little chippy is like gone and
they're like, oh yeah it's overthere. Not it's like whoa, yeah,
yeah they made it a pizza shop, so that place. Yeah,
so would say I was gonna say, would you say coming back to Ireland
after so long, there was asense of like, ah, I'm home
partially, But then then like wheneverI had that feeling whenever I first came

(12:00):
back here after the trip really whereI was like, oh, yeah,
this is my life. I gottalike like remember my daily routine. But
after being here for a couple days, it's like, no, okay,
I prefer this. Yeah. Thefirst thing I had to do when I
got home was clean everything had totoe So I just didn't even go to
bed. I just came back fromthe plane came home immediately started unpacking and
cleaning everything, which I'm so gratefulfor because the next morning I woke up

(12:24):
and I was like, oh,this is lovely. Yeah, clean home,
our clean home with our little wenchingand Bean and samue Lan. What
was your favorite part of Ireland.Yeah, let's give him the island Rundown.
It's weird. There was a lotof stuff where I just didn't like.
There was a lot of stuff whereI'd like in the moment, I
was like, Oh, this isthis thing, and I kind of have
to rush through it again because you'realways on like a schedule there. So

(12:46):
it's like, oh, I wishyou could have like had for our text
one more time, even though wehad it like twice, and it's like,
oh, one more time. ThoughI never got to properly enjoy it.
I never got a chicken burger.Yeah you know what, you got
super Max. I got super Maxand wanted me too, because they give
me the wrong order and they putlike sauce on it that I didn't ask
for and she kind of like aWhen we went to Far Tucks the first

(13:07):
time, I was like, man, I really really wanted Fire Tucks.
And then I'm looking at it andI'm like, no, I don't really
want that now, I'm okay,but then when you eat it, you're
like okay, yeah, but thenlike ten minutes later, you're like,
oh fuck that there was We metup at the mouse. He introduced us.
It was really really cool friend Connor, who was an amazing Constantina constantina

(13:31):
player. I don't know what concertinaconstantina. He it was fucking cool.
He invited us to go to adrink and draw. So we went to
this like it was like an openstage and everybody can sit around and they
can get their drinks they want,and there's a bunch of tables around.
You just draw whoever is sitting upon the stage. So obviously they took
volunteers, so I made sure tovolunteer myself multiple times, which was pretty

(13:52):
cool considering at the end of thedrinking draw, after they were done taking
like submissions of people like up onstage, everybody would come with they're drawings
and they put it up on theon the stage and you could vote anonymously
like who was your favorite, andthe guy who won drew my poses.
It was awesome. Here's the guy, here's the artist. Here's his instagram.

(14:13):
Really cool, pretty neat, notgonna lie. And then afterwards we
kind of fucked around and we justwent from pub to pub to pub to
pub looking at all the like reallycool decor on the inside. Okay,
that's something worth mentioning. Yes,Okay, that's where I was getting to.
Yeah. We went to a pubcalled Maddens in Belfast. It's like
a very Catholic Irish bar, likeclearly when the troubles were going on,

(14:35):
like this is where people would congregate. Yeah, if you don't know,
brief summary, Belfast is pretty muchlike split all but split into two halves.
One is Protestant, one's Catholic.And they're like they had very big,
like like wars over that shit,huge wars over years ago British,
not hundreds of years ago. Thisis the years ago. This is like

(14:56):
but it had been going on fourhundreds of years, so really really cool,
right, kind of just like atime piece. We're like, oh,
let's go outside and like hang outwhile Connor rolls his cigarette. So
as he's rolling a cigarette, we'reall just chilling and out of fucking nowhere.
This big thumb fat pink man justappears out of nowhere to my left,

(15:18):
in between me and Tom, andI gotta see him coming over.
He like walks on and he kindof like looks around and he sees us,
and he's kind of like awkwardly withhis hands in his pockets, like
stepping over, like as if he'snot like coming over to talk to us.
He doesn't, but until he's actuallythere, in which he was like
peeking over Veronica's shoulder, like tryingto look at what she's doing when she's
like rolling cigarettes with him, andI'm just like, uh, what's up?
Man? And he is fucking shitfaced. He is not looking at

(15:43):
me. He's giving me one ofthese huh who are you? Whoa Los
Angeles? Yeah, so big thumbman is is near us. Yeah,
big giant pink Patrick starfish looking manright next to us, watching me,
and he's really drunk, and sohe's like and then Connor's like, oh
hello, Like Connor's like, canI help you? What's going on?

(16:06):
Immediately, this fucking pink, thispink dinosaur goes up to Connor and starts
speaking to him in Irish because clearlythis is a Catholic Irish bar. So
he's trying to like size him up, be like, oh, yeah,
you want to fucking talk to me. You're real, You're a real Irish
guy. Yeah, starts speaking tohim in Irish, right, So then
immediately Connor looks back at him,talks Irish right back to him fluently,

(16:26):
no skips, no beats, nonothing, no hang ups. Immediately conversing
back fluently with this man. Andhow I mean they were going on for
like like five minutes, like justyeah, they're just like talking about like
nonsense and so where like then thenTom, Yeah, Tom starts trying to
speak to Tom's starts trying to speakto him in Irish, but Tom only

(16:48):
knows like the Irish I would havelearned with them and like to start a
high school. He keeps saying like, I brush my teeth, I like
to eat food every day, Ibrush my teeth. Where's the bathroom,
and over and over, making himreally pissed off. He gets so fucking
mad he starts screaming, like whyyou just keep saying that? Why you
keep saying this shit to me?I'm just like I go to her speaking
English, Can I say, oh, you brush my teeth every fucking day?

(17:11):
Why the fuck how am I supposedto talk to you? He's like
buying into it, get like angry. Pink is starting to turn red,
and so we all like kind ofmove inside to get away from him and
like leave min there. Connor rollsin a cigarette, just like appease him.
And so we're all sitting inside likelistening to the music, and I
like again, I'm like facing theback door. So I see him like
slowly walk in and stand by ourteable and he's kind of like looking down

(17:34):
at us, kind of like listeningin. No, he stands in front
of us. I shit, younot. We're all sitting here. He
is like standing over us, andthen Connor like looks out at him,
like is everything okay? And he'slike, oh, could I can I
sit down with you? And thenConnor's like, don't be weird, just
don't be weird. It's like,sure, sure, may you can sit
with us, just don't be fuckingweird. Immediately that guy looks over at

(17:57):
Connor and goes, I feel likeI know you just you look just like
my fucking friend. You look justlike him. Connor's just like, I
don't fucking know who your friend is. Who how am I supposed to know
what your friend looks like. Idon't fucking know him. I don't know
you, right, He's like,how am I supposed to carry this conversation?
So eventually it gets really awkward,super fucking awkward. We're all just

(18:21):
sitting there like in silence while likethe band yeah yeah. So I'm like,
okay, well, I'll just liketake out my sketchbook and I'll just
draw. So then I look athim and I go, hey, man,
why don't you let me draw you? Dude? I can draw you
right now. And he's like he'slike, oh, you draw me,
you know. So he poses,like put his little hands, like tiny

(18:42):
little smile on his face. It'stiny, little chubby cheeks, they're all
pink. He's happy. So Istarted doodling him, and Brand could draws
the nicest drawing of this guy ever, very very generously draw this man hand
him the dye goes, look,look it's in my sketchbuck. Look isn't
that cool? Mark's like, I'mgo to the bathroom, right, he
gets up, he leaves. Ilook over it, Tom, and I'm
like, hey, you know,my friend Tom here is a really good

(19:06):
artist. You should let him draw. I insist Tom, I insist you
draw this man. I hand himthe sketchbook and the pen. The guy
does not like Tom, right,he's been talking about brushing his teeth and
eating food. Tom just likes anpeople. But Tom loves taking the piss
out like out of random people,especially drunk people. And earlier it was
set up earlier that night at thedrawing event that Tom like draws the most

(19:27):
ugly, like unattractive characaters of people. Ever, Zach Zach made a good
comparison when you showed him on saying, it looks like a Picasso painting,
which is really unflattering abstract proportion.But it does look like that the thing.
Yes, it looks like these people. But what Tom. Tom has
a mastery that I will never everbe able to qualify, you know,

(19:48):
where he can capture people's features ina really realistic and honest way. But
because he does that, it's reallyrude and unflattering. Yeah, you know
what I mean. And this case, I could not tell if Tom was
actually trying or he was just Ithink it was a bit of both,
because every time Mark looked over,Mark just like immediately had to like look

(20:12):
away and just cover his face,just crying, laughing. Guys, if
you want, here's a heavily blurredvideo showcasingness. It's proof. Yeah that's
Tom drawing the picture in real time. Guy, that's pink guy. Yeah,
of course, yeah, we won't, we won't out him. Yeah,
he was having a bad night clearlybecause at a certain point, as

(20:33):
like I'm looking, I'm dying everyfeature he adds, I'm screaming laughing,
and if you know me, likeI can't control the volume of my laughing,
and I think I'm being really discreetabout it. I'm like turning my
face like this and like like laughingto myself really hard. And I like,
later on, I was like,was I lied? And you're like
yes. He was very loud,very loud laugh. He was literally laughing

(20:55):
in this guy's face but just puttinghis hand up. See. But then
this fucking starfish man would get mad. But he was like trying, we're
laughing, yeah, well laughing.So he's trying to take the sketch book
out of Tom's hands and Tom's like, what are you doing? I'm not
done, And every time he wouldlike get impatient, Connor would make a
comment like a see, I seelad when he adds the eyebrows and it'll

(21:15):
all come together. I fucking starteddying. Then he's like, ah,
yes, yes, it's the shadingon the upper lip, perfect perfect.
You have to get that shading otherwiseit won't look like him. Just little
things like this. So this fuckingstarfish guy is getting more and more impatient,
and I'm like, okay, thisis too much. I need to
like I need a breath, likeI need to go to the bathroom and

(21:36):
just like powder my nose or whatever, go up, go now. This
is where I'm out of the loophere. Yes, if Ronnick has gone
in the bathroom, which leaves likeand and the way this is you saw
the layout like it's a square table, a really tiny square table. Tom
is on one end, Fat Guy'son the opposite. I'm beside Tom Ronic
is on like one of the sides, and Connor's on the other side.
I'll do a little map of whatthe drum looks like. And so with

(22:00):
Ronic gone there is not a clearopen path to Tom and me, And
so Tom finishes the drawing and hedoesn't want to show him at first,
and we're like okay, Tom,like you gotta show him, and he
wants to see it. So Tomturns it over and shows it to him,
and the guy just sits there likeleaning over the table, like squinting
his eyes, staring at it withlike no expression. He's not happy or
sad. He's just staring at it, like taking it in. And then

(22:22):
he gets up really slowly, walksall the way around to where Tom sitting,
grabs the sketch, like snatches itout of his hand, puts it
really up close to his fiace andis like staring at it, like standing
right over Tom. And he wasso drunk that there's no way he could
have even like seen what it lookedlike on the page because it was so
close to his fiace, And sohe just like pulls it away and he
rips it off really slowly, crumplesit up in a ball, stands there,

(22:45):
and then he sprints out the doorand leaves, and so Connor like
jumps up AND's like, what thefuck are you doing? So Connor chases
him and looks like the door andhe's all the way down the street,
takes a corner and gone, neversee him again, never see him again
for the rest of the night,like tearing out like a part of your
diary so your mom won't find out. Like, yeah, I before.
In the time it took for Vroniccome to back, we were all just
sitting there going like what is helike? You want to know what I

(23:07):
did in the bathroom. I justI didn't even use the bathroom. I
went up upstairs, moved my hairfor five seconds, and it was like
I'm done. I came back.He was gone, That's what I was
saying. I was like, Vroniky, You're not gonna believe this. This
is like two so quick and it'sthe keys where Yeah. I was sitting
there like what did he did hethink that was like something we were gonna

(23:27):
post someone? Like did he thinkthat was like a photo of him where
it's like here's this guy? Yeah, and he thought people would like that
he looks like that. I don'tknow, like but it was just so
like I wish I was inside hismind to know what happened. You wish
you were in his mind's analogy.Yeah, you see what he was doing,

(23:48):
Like what what he what? Likeweird wires got crossed there and made
him come to a conclusion that hehad to rip it on and run away.
It was clearly a thing where hewas like, I don't I think
it's one of two things. It'sI don't want these people posting the shit
of me online. People will knowwho this is because this is way too
good. Or two he was like, oh man, the woman's gone,
okay, I just need to pullthe I don't want this image to be

(24:11):
presented in front of her. I'mgonna rip this out and run away.
Maybe yeah, but it's still likeit's so rude. But he could have
broke your book in the process.Yeah, he did. He did take
my sketch book like in his ownhands, which that would that would have
made me nervous if I had beenthere. We were all like, and
this is all Every like step ofhis like actions was like ten second pauses
between, so we were all likeI was fully anticipating him like hitting Tom

(24:33):
over the head with the book,like I was, really what you have
done? I think I would havetried to grab the book off him,
and then Connor probably would have beathim on that. Connor and Tom would
have definitely beat his ass up.But it was one of the just like
what it was one of my favoritefucking nights in Ireland. It was just
so fucking weird, so many weirdpeople that night. That was cool.
We got to hear live music andlike three different bands because like every pub

(24:56):
was playing live music. Yeah,because this was a round New Year's I
think this wasn't no, No,this wasn't ye. Yeah, this is
a little laughter, but it's NewYears was fun too. Yeah. New
Year's was fun. We were hangingout with Tom and his other friend who
he played music with. No,it wasn't It was in Belfast. But
we also did pub hopping for NewYear's and that was really cool because Tom

(25:19):
played for a majority of it andthen we had just enough time after his
set to like go over to theclosest place and like have the countdown.
But the closest place that wasn't busy. It was a gay bar, and
constantly guys kept trying to come upto Mark and Tom, mostly Tom,
I think, because he had aguitar and his like piercing blue eyes,
so all these guys kept coming upto him trying to like have him to

(25:42):
be they would they would just ata different pub on a different dad,
just sitting there and this old likethis old lady came down and sat down,
and she was like and she hadblack teeth. Caroline. She called
herself sweet Caroline. And she wouldlook at Tom and be like, gives
a kiss, and to give usa kiss, give us a kiss.

(26:04):
She's like she is this far away, like going up to Tom and touching
his hair. Yeah. Tom's likeno, Tom's like you have a girlfriend.
No, go away. And shewould like get up on the stage
and like start like she's dancing.Said she was like the queen. You're
saying, I'm the queen. Iwin. I win, Which I'm like,

(26:26):
that's damn fucking straight, Sweet Caroline, Hell yeah, you win.
Fuck yes. But see, themore I was like up gassing her up,
the more she wanted to stay atour table and fucking chill. Yeah.
And then Broanica leaves at a certainpoint because she's getting too much,
and it's like you brought her here. I did not bring her there.
She showed up just like Poogie andStarfish. Yeah, which such a long

(26:49):
I feel like we've told the storyof We told the story of Poogie the
first time, but we didn't saythe part too this time. Poogie was
I don't know if we talked aboutthis in the podcast. Was a guy
we met like two years ago thelast time Mark, literally the last night
Mark and I were in Ireland ata pub in my home time where we
met up with Tom again. Anduh, this big old, really old

(27:11):
like thumb guy pink like similar lookingto the other guy, Like it looked
like his older brother dad was stumblingaround really drunk, and he sat down
beside us and he was like,I know who you are, and I
was like who, and he's like, you're this person's son, Like I
was best friends with your dad inhigh school when we were thirteen. And
he was started telling us about howhe like moved to Japan to become a

(27:32):
jockey and got married and he's backnow divorced, and uh, he just
kind of like wanders. I askedmy dad later, and he just kind
of like wanders the pub every nightand like talks to people. He's just
a lonely man. And so Veronicastarts like Tom sorry, starts like fucking
with him by showing him twenty onelike my name of Jeffanes on his phone,

(27:52):
and he gets really annoyed. He'slike, no, see, I
just I don't find that funny.Find that funny and pissed like I don't
find that funny, and Tom wouldjust like throw Tom be like, what
do you mean to my name isJet? Like what do you mean like
like start like throwing in like weirdlike dumb memes. You look at him,
be like my name of Jeff,Yeah, my nima Jeff And would
say that to him over and over. He's like, I don't care what
your name is. Yeah, that'sright. But Tom would like film him.

(28:15):
Tom put his camera in his feet, something like fast forward, sorry
fast. It was like the scenehim boas afraid. We're in the they're
in the car and the girl hasher friend with her, like filming him,
like forcing him to smoke. Wehealing says, you need to relax.
That's okay, really, thank you, I already took some pills.

(28:36):
Yeah, we weren't doing that,thankfully he was. He was more than
willing to come sit with us,and he was. And so fast forward
two years later, right a coupleof weeks ago, Poogie's back at a
different pub as me, Veronica andTom were meeting up for the first time
in two years. I'm reminiscing aboutPoogie Tom last time, Tom looks over
and it's like he's over there.What the fuck, he's across the room.

(29:00):
He's fucking there, comes over tous again, comes over to us,
but this time does not fucking rememberyeah, And Tom has to be
like Tom's been like, look,look, and he shows him the video
of him from two years ago andhe's like, oh, I can't remember
you. I was like, we'relike catching up. We're like catching up
with him and we're talking to himabout ship and at one point he's like,
I can break out of a chokehold. See, I'll show you

(29:22):
how to break out of a chokeright, And he's like, I'll show
you what I can do self defensebecause I took self defense classes for years.
So I get up, I puthim in a choke hold, and
we can probably show this and censorit, yeah, because I don't think
you see his face, you do, but we can censor it because I
haven't been choke hold. Oh yeah, you're right. And so I put
him in a choke hold and I'mlike I was really because he's really drunk

(29:44):
at this point. I was reallyscared that he was gonna try like flip
me over something. And I toldI told him, like, listen,
do not hurt him. Show mea light demonstration. If you hurt him,
I will rip your face off.So he's put me in a choke
hold and he's just sitting there andthen he pulls out his lighter and fucking
immediately takes his lighter up in notime, and I'm like, whoa,

(30:07):
what the run over? I'm like, what are you doing? Slapping his
head. He's like, love thatuntil you get out of choke hold.
I'm like, oh, you fuckingidiot. So at a certain point as
it progresses, and Sweet Caroline's atour table, I'm like, fuck this.
I don't want to hang around thisfucking bimbo. So I go over
to Poogie and I'm like, listen, man, give me your shoe.
Go on, come here, putyour put your foot on my knee,

(30:27):
come here, give me your shoe. Takes his shoes off, takes my
shoes off here, and I'm like, here, try these on. And
then I try on one of hisshoes and I'm like, oh, we're
the same, We're the same shoesize. I'm like great, So I
put his shoes on. He's hestarts putting mine on and his like other
old drunken buddies who are around himstart laughing at him and taking their phones
out videotaping him. And Tom comesover like like Bo's afraid of videoing him?

(30:52):
And here here it is right here, he's dancing. He's dancing with
me. Yeah, he's totally intoit, which, honestly, more should
wear white boots like that, genuinely, yes, genuinely, like like Nacho
lebre Yeah, the nice white bootslike Sid from Hey Arnold with Sid from
toy story. He now he wereboots. Yeah, but that's that's the

(31:17):
story of Poogie, in which wemet the other guy later and I named
him tu Gi. Yeah, itwas Poogie and tug Tugi was the one
at Maddens, the one that rippedthe drawing out. So someday we'll meet,
uh who knows, maybe we will. Maybe we'll run into him for
the third time the next time weget out. Yeah, hopefully he hasn't
seen this podcast. You know,it's great. It was great, I

(31:37):
mean about being an Ireland. Youwant you know what was great about being
an Ireland? Little winch do Iknow? Oh? Here, come closer,
let me tell you. Take aseat. A great thing about being
in Ireland was being able to watchGrey's Anatomy. Yeah, we got through
like a season. We watched liketwo seasons of Grey's Anatomy and like three
seasons of Shameless. It was fuckingawesome because I was working on the Regular
Show video at that time. Dude, that was a nightmare because I got

(32:00):
there and my computer that I boughtbrand new two years ago just would not
even turn on. And when itwould be, i'd like edit like five
minutes and it would blue screen.Crash Ronica thankfully figured it out. It
was needed, really stupid. Youwant to know what it was is that
his gaming pc is an HP,right, It's a hyper Pavilion right now

(32:22):
Omen, but Omen is the brandof an HP gaming PC. Right,
So you would think in like theHP settings that it would tell you that
you would need to update your driversand all the other shit. Nope,
it's a completely separate things. Theyhave HP drivers and OMEN drivers, which
is like kind of like the equivalentof in the videos graphics card kind of

(32:44):
driver, you know, like thosekinds of settings. And because those were
not updated, Mark's computer would justblue screen and it would barely turn on,
which was really annoying. But onceI got it figured out, we
kind of got into a groove.But we only really got into that after
our flight got delayed because Erlingis wasawful. Dude, Okay, fuck air
Lingus. Let me tell you,damn it, dude, watching this,

(33:07):
I think we need a couple offree flights over here. Yeah, I'm
thinking me Mark just winching couple.Maybe won't a couple of nights in uh
in Hawaii, Cabo San Lucas.Look he has a pe like a big
as belly is. Oh, hedoesn't have to pokemon belly so big eped
not long ago. Let me usethe rundown of my of the bullshit I
had to deal with. Okay,so I had to get a new passport,

(33:29):
one that has my married name,since the only other one I had
was one that had my maiden name. Right, So the only way you
can do that is by making anappointment at the passport embassy. But the
only way that they will give youone asap is if you have a flight
that's going to be happening in thenext ten days, which means I had
to go all the way to thepassport embassy, put it all my shit
for my new passport, and thenthey were like, okay, well the

(33:51):
day before your flight, come backover here and pick up your passport.
So I just have to like hopeand pray that they will have it ready
for me the day before my flight. Yeah, and they do, great,
No problem. Now all I haveto do is call aer Lingus.
So we booked our flight like threemonths ago. So my name, my
maiden name, was on my flightticket. So I call aer Lingus.
They go, ooh see, becauseyou have a connecting flight coming home,

(34:17):
we can't change the name because thatconnecting flight is actually American Airlines, So
you're gonna need call American Airlines.So I call American Airlines. They go,
ooh see, because you booked withair Lingus, you actually can't change
your name. We have no jurisdiction. You gonna have to call air Lingus,
which is so dumb that they can'tcommunicate with each other. Yes,
considering that they both are partnering forthese kinds of itineraries millions of flights every

(34:43):
which this was purchased on air Lingus'ssite, wouldn't they have the jurisdiction being
the company I purchased the tickets fromyou'd think. So I call aer Lingus
back. They go, oh,yeah, sorry, we actually can't help
you. You're gonna have to buynew flight. And I'm like, you're
asking me to buy a two thousanddollars flight that would be more expensive,

(35:05):
Not that would be more expensive.Now you're asking me to buy a two
thousand dollars flight the day before I'msupposed to be leaving because you can't change
my last name, which is solike, it's a ticket whoever has the
ticket, Like I could be ableto change it to a different person if
I wanted to. You know,you own it, it's yours, But
no, that doesn't matter. Sofor three hours, this fucking bitch was

(35:28):
running me in fucking circles about howshe just couldn't change my last name.
She was like, I'm sorry,the supervisor here can't assist you. So
what I recommend you do is callin an hour so or other supervisor can
help you, because if anybody canhelp you, she could. But I'm
also gonna let you know I highlydoubt we'll be able to make this change,
considering it's just too short notice.And I'm like, that's retarded.

(35:52):
You can only change your thing theday before. Yeah, I'm like,
that's retarded because I wouldn't have evenhad my passport to put my passport number
on my ticket until the day before. And then you waited like an hour
and no one get back to you. You didn't get a phone call.
No, I never got a phonecall. So then I called er Lingis
again and the woman that I spoketo immediately handled it in less than five

(36:13):
minutes, handled it immediately, didn'teven question it, No, didn't question
me. Completely different woman I've spokento. The other one was a complete
So then five minutes later I geta call from the same woman who was
and she goes, I just gotnews that they changed your flight. I'm
so happy for you. We workedreally really hard to make this happen for
you, and I just thanked her. I just thanked her and gave her
all the praise that she would wantto stroke her fucking ego like later that

(36:37):
night. But deep down, I'mlike, fuck you bitch, Like you
knew what you were doing, youknew that you wanted like you just wanted
to get money out of me.You just wanted me to buy a new
ticket. Yeah you know what Imean, which they got out of us
on the web back when we weresitting at a fucking gaming store playing Fortnite
on the PCs and I got ane meal being like, oh, hey,
due to weather conditions in Philadelphia andyou're connecting flight in the way home,

(37:00):
you might get stuck there, sowe're gonna offer you to change your
flight for free. And I waslike, sweet, another week in Ireland,
let's do it. So we callthem up and they're like, ooh
sorry, because of the same thing. It's actually done through er Lingus,
you can't do it. It wasdifferent. It was American Airlines offered this
to Mark and me, but thenaer Lingus was like, well, we
don't have any notifications of bad weatherand everything. No, American Airlines were

(37:24):
the ones who did. Erlingis werethe ones who did. That's what I'm
saying. Erlingis was like, wedon't have any notifications of bad weather,
so we can't change your flight.Yeah, because it's still on it's still
like happening, it's still on time. We're trying to explain it something where
it's like no. We got anemails saying that like there's a strong chance
we will be stranded and filled outand imagine, Okay, I have to
get the regular show video white inlike three days. So if we get

(37:44):
stuck in Philadelphia, I'm fucked.I'm asking everybody is like, hey,
is there a chance, like ifwe get stranded we can use the computers,
which thankfully, and they were allvery nice, and they were all
like, yeah, we'll try andfigure it out. We'll see what we
can do or whatever. And that'sjust like the worst case scenario. While
I'm on the phone with Mark's gettingMark you're at the dentist, yeah,
And I'm on the phone with them, and I'm like, listen, dude,

(38:06):
you need to understand, like,if we get to Philadelphia, how
are we going to get home ifwe're stranded there. This is a connecting
flight. If Philadelphia is telling usit is too dangerous for us to depart
to LA from Philly, then wouldn'tit be too dangerous to land from Dublin.
Wouldn't that just like yeah, whoknows that we won't get like landed

(38:28):
somewhere else? Yes, yes,exactly. And so this guy was just
like, I can't help you,and I said, well, then transfer
me to somebody who can. Well, no, they're gonna tell you the
same thing. Well, that's great, let them tell me the same thing.
You don't have to be that person. You can just transfer me to
somebody else. And then he hangsup on me. So I'm like,
oh my god, fuck this.And then I try to call it and
the woman at aer Linkas is like, sure, I can look into that,

(38:50):
and she starts looking into it forlike five minutes. I'm on hold
and then I run up service,so then I have to wait till we
get to Mark's parents. Call themagain. Yeah, I called them a
bunch of my granny size. That'sremember that's on her landline, that's right.
And the guy was like, can'thelp you. It won't help you,
can't help you. So we endedup just having to spend like another
six hundred dollars to extend it,which it was it was seven hundred really

(39:13):
because it was three fifty or threeeighties. Okay, yeah, that's which.
Still, it's like that fucking sucks. It's like you offered me the
free flight and I'm having to paya grant, just a fucking but you
couldn't. That's the thing is you. We couldn't change our flight because aer
Lingus kept saying, oh, wecan't change it because you have a flight
later with American Airlines, and AmericanAirlines like, well, we can't change

(39:35):
it because you booked their lingus.So it's like a paradox. It's like
what can I do? But it'slike I had to do it ahead the
video. So guys, that regularshipvideo. If you want to give super
thanks in the comments for seven hundredsuper Chi dollars, that would be amazing.
Guys. If every one comment gavefive million Wench coins, we'd have

(39:57):
a billion Wench coins. See whatelse? I feel like there was something
else going on though, other thanI know all the some ordinary gamers and
completionist stuff that that's right. Someonerecently added me in one of my old
tweets from like twenty eighteen, whichI just realized in that moment was six
years ago. And then and thentweet I think I'd said something like the
completionist was bad ever since Greg leftthere. I said it, and they

(40:20):
were like, whoa you like itwas like the prophecy, and I'm like,
no, it's been bad for likesix years. That's all. I
mean. My issue with Gerard,aside from the old charity stuff was that
once Greg was like the comic reliefand Gerard was like the straight man.
Once he fucked over Greg and Gregwas kicked off the show or left the
show, it was like Gerard waslike, Okay, well I'll be the
funny guy too. I'm funny becauseGreg had all the memorable moments and I

(40:45):
got fucking nothing. So I'll tryto be the funny guy too. I
just didn't didn't work for me.There's certain YouTubers where it's like you think
you are like this shit, you'rehim, dude, he really him.
It's like, Okay, if you'refunding a whole ass documentary about how amazing
and unique of a channel you havewhen all you're doing is playing video games,

(41:06):
it's like but also hiring all ofyour friends and be like, yeah,
he was really hiring Aaron Hanson tobe like, yeah, nobody had
thought about playing a video game before, like new intro and there's like new
graphics and then I'm like, whoa, this looks amazing. Yeah, No,
it's just dumb. It's like awhole fucking documentary about him smelling his
own fucking dick cheese. It's likeit's so like so grossly like superficial,

(41:29):
so grossly like fake and phony,and that's when I'm like, don't like
you because you suck. It's likeyeah, it's like you're you're giving so
much wheat to what is a jacceptchannel. Yeah, I was really disappointed
because he made a documentary and itwas like in theaters, I'm pretty sure,
and we watched it all and itwas just him being like, yes,

(41:50):
I am Jack Eceptic, and Ilive in Ireland. The whole time,
he's like, when I was alittle kid and I was in Ireland,
I used to do with this fuckingthing. And then it's him going
to Ireland being like, now I'ma grown up and I remember when I
was a little kid I would dothis, but it was so like it's
gonna be a journey through my lifefrom the start of my life to whatever
the fuck this whenever he's on hisbecause it's like half documentary half stage performance,

(42:15):
and when he's doing the stage performance, it's always like he sets up
this Ireland thing to be like,look on, Goofy and Waggy, this
is aren't Irish people silly? Butthen it cuts to him in Ireland and
he's like, wow, this isreally emotional for me, and it's like
it's like, oh, what tonof I meant to be feeling from this?
Picks up his crusty sock. Iremember my first crusty sock in my
This thing is that it's this weirdthing where it's going back and it's being

(42:36):
like wow. Whenever I first startedYouTube, I was depressed and I have
all these fans who are who likeneed me, and it's like it's like,
dude, if you want, Idon't care about it. Seems so
like why respect? Why is thisa documentary I have to pay to see
in theaters? You know what I'msaying. It's like I'm paying to see
you give a highlight? What isthe consensus of the documentary? What is

(42:57):
the point? I don't even rememberwhat it was called. It was called
Acceptic, but hole the movie inthree in smellow vision. You can see
the Krusty Sock in three D.Witch. It has a seven point one
on IMDb, which is too high, but that's clearly just based off his
fans like going like, well,I remember when I was a kidd.

(43:17):
Now watch Jack shepter guy. Nowlook where he is, Like that's that's
the approach. Maybe we're just heatersthough it's just it's just so like I
get it, like he can dowhatever he wants, and it is kind
of like it's like, oh,you're being a heater. But at the
same time, it's like it's likethat's a piece of that's that's a movie.
Not many people get to make amovie, you know, or documentary
you know, and you had youclearly were given this opportunity to do that,

(43:38):
but you had nothing to say,jerking yourself off. And it's that
thing where it just feels like thisis like a whole wasted thing where it's
like market Plier, good example,I don't care for market Plier. I
don't like watch market Player videos oranything. But he fucking got the chance
to make a movie. Until he'strying to He's not making market Plier the
movie. I'm market making a movie. He's making that. I and Lung

(44:00):
Gamer the movie. I Gaming themovie. You have ambitions and you have
something you want to do, andI respect that. All of those other
guys all circle jerk themselves off allthe time, it comes off like it
comes off maybe not in Narroon's case, but it comes off for like the
completionist star first, like Jack ScepticGuy, it's like kind of a one
trick pony kind of thing where it'slike when you try to branch out,

(44:22):
it all still has to be like, oh, I'm a YouTuber like and
it's not even like the idea ofbeing the YouTuber is the thing, you
know, not about how because inreality, like Jack Sceptic Guy could be
the most like charismatic like charming,funny guy on plannders, but it's just
all let's play, you know,let's be real. So it's like you're
trying to add so much like weightand hold wait and like and make it
so grand and make it seem likethis is something that like is more than

(44:44):
it is, and it's just tome, it comes off so phony.
But that's what I'm trying to say. It's it's it comes off phony.
It's like it's like you're trying toestablish a false reality here. And I
get the idea of like wanting toreminisce or make like a thing being like,
Wow, this is how far I'vecome. But at the same time,
it's like make something that has substance. Yeah, do you think anybody

(45:05):
would take the fucking Jack Septic Guymovie and ship it out in space for
the aliens to watch. No,No, it's meant to be. It's
meant to be like a T shirton his store. You know, it's
meant to be like a product toconsume. You know that's gross, but
obviously he wouldn't see it that way, as fans can never see it that
way. It's like it's fine,you know, and that's whatever. People,
you can say whatever you want tolike my videos or whatever. I

(45:27):
don't think their art. I don'tlike it, but that's I guess that's
the difference where it's like you're notgoing around being like, yeah, I
really love helping my community with myranking videos. I really love like helping
my viewers depression and talking about SpongeBob. Where it's like if someone watching your
let's play, and a byproduct ofthat is that they feel better or they
feel like they get to forget abouttheir life, like that's fine, great,
that's amazing, but sorry, goon. It's like these YouTubers who

(45:52):
like make their apology videos where it'slike I got so many emails from fans
saying that my video has helped theirdepression, and it's like but you're doing
that, but you're not, youknow, like like you didn't actively make
your content to help people with theirdepression. You actively made your content to
be popular or famous and to somebodyright yeah, where it's just like you

(46:12):
wanted valid It only annoys me becauseyou see stuff like when I remember when
that whole Jack Sceptic Guy mister Beastlike drama was alive for like a week.
Obviously like I don't care that sowithout making up obviously did the trick.
But it's this kind of thing whereI know Jack Scepty guy like apologized
or something I don't know, butthat he'd like he was someone put him
on a lie detector and they're like, what do you think about mister Beast

(46:35):
And he was like I think he'sharmed you two blendskeep because this is and
that like because he set up expectationsthat it's like money you put into a
video and it's like how dramatic youcan make it, and it's like that's
like not mister Beast, that islike this that's the same algorithm that brought
you up, you know, likeit's just evolved. But also it's like
it's like the animeaters whenever, likefrom new gruns who were like these the

(46:58):
fucking lets players just coming up andlike spamming out content every day for like
this, and it's like it's thesame thing. You're getting mad at the
game. You can't play it fastenough, mister Beast, Hate him if
you want. Mister Beast actually trieschanging the world. Okay, hate him
if you want. They're doing itfor profit. Like it's like, well
he's doing philanthro Beast Okay, prettyinsane. Okay, he does some pretty

(47:21):
wild ship. Where the fuck isJack Sceptic Guy doing that? No,
he's just jerking off on his crustysock and then makes a fucking documentary about
it. I'm sure he's done charitiesbefore. But it's the thing, I
don't even know Jack scept the guyI've like, I don't watch his video.
I'm saying, like content wise,right, Yeah, you can argue
Jack scept Guy is donated or doneenough stream, but whatever, it's pretty
irresputable that someone like mister Beast hashelped the world. Yes, that's what

(47:45):
I'm trying to say. And Iand I let me put this out there.
If mister Beast made a documentary whereit's like I'm mister Beast and I'm
awesome. I would say the samething about Carl Jacob Walks in to be
like, I'm at mister beast whenhe was so small, and I would
say the same shit about him,and it's like it's the same thing.
He's circle jerking himself. People likeGerard, people like Jack sept Gui,
people like pro Jared them, Ijust I don't respect them. And so

(48:09):
when I see things like the Completionistdocumentary and then I see like what he's
going through, what he's done behindthis and what he's done, I'm like,
yeah, that's obvious. Like someonewho makes the documentary about how cool
they are obviously is trying to likeprop up some false image, yes,
yes, or just like I'd ratheryou use your resources, time and money

(48:29):
to make something that actually has somekind of like sub sartistic merit to it,
you know, integrity, and it'snot just need to be consumed and
to make someone go like, ohI feel good about being a JACEPTI fine.
My belly so warm for the Completionist, Yeah, like we turned into
such heaters whatever my listen, I'msure they're lovely people to their friends and

(48:52):
families, the completion except the completionists. But I'm sure they're sure. Jack
scept guy is a wonderful person,you know. But I'm gonna I mean,
your documentary sucked, ass. Idon't give a shit about your shitty
stories. I don't care about howyou sat in a room all day playing
video games and now you're in abillionaire and you made a documentary about it.
I guess for me, it's moreof a thing about like they try

(49:14):
to have their hardship be like thehardship where it's like, no, everyone
gets a little sad sometime in theirlife. Everyone's gone through a depressive episode,
you know. It's like the fuckingtell my story thing, draw my
life, Yes, yes, whereit's like and then a thing happened to
me and erases happy face. Igot very sad, which really kind of

(49:34):
sucked. Like that's what the JackScepti Kai movie was, except interspliced with
clips of him joking to an audienceand being like, and that's it's weird.
He's making a lot of like weirdlike adult humor in it, but
then it pans into the audience,so like five, it's like five year
olds and like thirty year old sittingnext to each other, and it's like,
really weird, this is like targetdemographic weird. Yeah, it's not

(49:57):
weird to think. I mean,my channel's probably similar. I don't know,
like little kids and full grown adults. I guess it's like adults watching
blue that's weird. That's weird.The whole reason why I wanted to get
big on YouTube as a kid,my like big dream of like this is
when I will have made it?Is like, uh, when I finally
get to make a draw my life, That's when I know I'll have made
it as a YouTuber. That waslike my fourteen year old video. But

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that's when you got into YouTube,was when that was a popular thing.
It where everyone the Boogie one isthe on. The Boogie one and the
Susie Burhow one are the ones Ithink of the most. I've never seen
the it's the same thing as theBoogie one where it's like and then I
did this thing and then it gotsad, unhappy face, unhappy face.
His was like, Okay, you'da pretty bad childhood Like that mean me

(50:42):
said as a kid watching it,watching Boogi's draw my life made you said,
yeah, where he talks about likehis dad was like a minor and
like you just died of like luncancer and like you watching and his mum
was like going crazy in the background. Like I thought that was pretty sad.
Obviously, the byproduct of all thatbeing what we see today obviously isn't
justified. But I don't know,there's such like a fine line when it
comes to like how much a contentcreator should like over share their personal life

(51:07):
with their audience. I feel like, right, I usually try to keep
that ship pretty private unless it's likeagainst my will. Yeah, almost like
somebody like leaks your d MS orsomething, or like I don't know,
teams up with like an eighteen yearold makes a video or something. Yeah,
weird like that, you know whereit's just like where it's like if
it happens, it happens whatever,but like, but it wasn't you.

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It's like I don't like doing thatbecause I don't like acting as if my
life is any important than like someoneelse's life that I have to like make
it like it seems like it hasmore validity or superiority. I don't know,
just put it on blessed and belike yeah, this is what's going
on in my life, you know, you know, Mark, we should
make a fake drama life and openthis video with that. We should make
drama wench. Yeah, let's makea draw my life at his wench and

(51:50):
she's got are get it pressed?Yeah, it's like whatever, like Jack,
except the guy seems like a niceguy whatever, like that nice guy.
But it's just like I can't butI don't. I can't look at
that and go like that's a pieceof art right there. And that's because
it wasn't mean to be, youknow, but I guess it just comes
off kind of like pompous to me, where it's like, here's a documentary

(52:13):
about how cool I am and howI like, here's my success story because
one time I was sad and it'slike so is everyone. I don't know,
whatever, whatever, Friends helping,friends, lifting each other up.
We're just fucking you know what weare. We're like the fucking old men
in Muppets. We're sitting on ourthrones. You know. I always forget
their name, even though every timeI look it up, I'm like,
yes, that's right, which oneare you? I'll be the taller one,

(52:36):
Yeah, you are the taller.I wanted to be the shorter one
with the most heag. Yeah,that's that's us right now, making fun
of poor little innocent Jeck accept theguy with his Is he innocent? I
don't know. I don't know eitherway. Shout out to Mudahar for the
awesome candy. Yeah, and thanksto Wench for joining us. And we

(52:57):
got some cool special guests for thisNew year. Find up lined up we
got. We finally responded to somemessages. It's because we're not moving anymore,
so now we can do it.Yeah. We we like have a
plan of where we're gonna be,so yeah, and maybe next time,
guys, we'll even talk about animationor something like that, Like who knows,
like like how we advertise ourselves tobe