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July 22, 2023 • 58 mins
Mark and Veronica unfortunately subjected themselves to watching the entirety of the Fairly OddParents within one month, and so now they're gonna talk about the entire series!

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Things, Impeachable, put on ImpeachableRace. Welcome to the next episode of
Meeting Halfway. It is currently currentepisode. Yeah, it's it's twelve am
right now on July twenty first,and so yeah, and so the Fairly

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add Parents ranking video comes like tomorrowand I just there today finished watching the
series with Veronica. When did westart watching? When would you say what
Fairly odd Parents? Yeah, let'ssee, we definitely started like a month
ago. It was definitely like startof June as well. I started being

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sure a month really, yeah,a month. Yeah. It's always a
way where it goes where I givemyself like six months between each of them,
so it's like, oh, it'stwo a year, you know,
you know what it is. Eversince we came back from the road trip,
time has been like going so fast. Yeah, so it's like it's
crazy to think that that was liketwo months ago, I know. Yeah.

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And the way all these rank videosgoes is that I start them and
I'm like, oh, I havelike six months to make this. I'll
start when there's like three months left, and then three months comes and I'll
watch like two episodes of the show, and then a month will have gone
by. And I'll put it off. So I'm like, a, only
have two months. Then I'll watcha little bit more, but I'll keep
getting distractinguse I'm like, oh,it's still like two months away. I
I can do it if I watchedtwenty episodes every day for three weeks straight,

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so that means I don't have towatch any until it's three weeks from
then. You know, it's likegetting it over with. The first time
you came to California, you weredoing the Family Guy ranking. Yeah,
and then I went to Ireland andthen you had to do the SpongeBob ranking.
Yeah. You came back and hadto do the South Park one and

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that was like around Christmas time,and so now it's and this one.
Yeah, this is the shortest one, I think. Yeah, it's a
little bit shorter than South Park.It's like three hundred. It's three hundred
on the dot when you kind theoh yeah cartoon specials. And I don't
know, despite how like many lessepisodes it is by the animate, it
got really really annoyed. A seasonlike one only has fourteen little segments,

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any you know, our thirteen,But then you get to season nine and
it has fifty two. A thirdof the entirety of the series is season
nine and ten. See, butlike then they have season eight that's like
five episodes. Five episodes like thirtyminutes, right, thirty thirty at longer
like almost like one forty five.I always blend in, what's your name,

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Susie, Susie Burhow what's her name, Susie Carmichael? What's her name?
Chloe? See, I don't evenfucking I've been watching this with you
for the last like three days.I don't even remember her name because she's
so she's in it, so she'slike a little yeah, yeah, she's
in it so little, and she'shonestly not that as bad as I thought.
No, yeah she's not. Butshe's also like I like her more
than two D. Yeah. It'sit's a thing where it's like, oh,

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this could have been an interesting characterif which didn't like insist on every
character just being like wacky. It'sher fucking design. I hate like her
dress. I hate her bow.It's way too much, Like why do
they need to give her a bowjust because Timmy has a hat? You
know what I mean? It wouldn'tit be better she had like a longer
dress where it's like she's missing herfront teeth. Yeah, she's got like

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the linking loud mouth, she's linkingloud sibling. Yeah. You know,
she wasn't not as bad as Ithought. No, she wasn't. But
by the time it got to Flash, it was like unbearable. It feels
like you're being made fun of.Like it's almost like you're a baby.
Yeah, because it's like bluey,it's like blue animation. Do you feel
like someone's talking to you like atoddler? Yeah, But at the same
time, it's like, oh,I feel like weird that I ever like

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this in the first place. Youknow, it makes you kind of embarrassed.
Yeah, what it is one ofus looking at the Flash version is
like what our parents looked at whenthey saw us watching it. Like I
remember. That's the thing is thatBush always describes it when he's when he's
when he was like blowing up onYouTube and he was making all these videos
like yeah, I'm the guy whomade fairly OddParents. And he was telling

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some story about like how it wascanceled, but he starts to talk about
how popular it was and how everyoneloved it. He's like there weren't even
like kids watching it, so manyof the viewers were adults. In my
head, I'm like a lot ofadults watching Fairly Apparents, you know,
like on their own. Yeah,but look at us exactly what we did.
But you know what, all inall, Fairly odd Parents sixty percent

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of the way through, I wouldsay seventy percent of the way through good
show, you know. Yeah.Season I used to be like, season
six is when it just gets likeshit, you know, but season six
was six was fine. Yeah,you know what, I didn't do anything,
but you know what it is,Maybe we think season six is fine
because season ten and nine it's sobad. Yeah. I was thinking that

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whenever I was looking back on seasonseven, because when we were watching season
seven, I was like, holygod, this shit sucks. That's when
like the blue one foop Cat appearingand it was just getting really tedious and
it's always about him, and it'salways him and Crocker teaming up, and
him and Vicky teaming up. Andthen I got to like season ten and
I was like, damn, seasonseven. I would take that like any
dead one because it looks so muchbetter. Even watching the end of season

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ten, I was like, damn. Season nine was like not that bad
compared to this, And that's whenwe were watching with Gen. Gene came
over to our hives and watched likeforty episodes of season nine like criticizing it.
Yeah, nit pickings. It's weirdlybecomes so overly saturated, like they
hone in on the joke so muchthat they think that that's the drawing.
Yeah, and they don't know whento stop that, like because something's popular

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once they try to do it again. Like you know what I started thinking
is that every once in a while, it would do that thing where they'd
end like an episode of the voiceclip. Yeah, and then that eventually
at some point got turned into likethem repeating the same being the same joke
and then ending the show by justrandomly spotting that joke brought to you a

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bike bobber ain't hand blobbing gas,because like the soundclip at the end was
pretty much of them repeating the jokeagain, being like, ha, remember
that funny thing in this episode,Yeah, that random word that said.
But then after that it became likeit cuts to a black screen and then
the character comes on screen the jokeor it's like four different characters, and

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they're all just like this. They'relike four running gags of the episode,
all just saying the word ever runningin for no reason, nothing to do
with Timmy, has nothing to dowith what's going on. They see the
fairies are there, doesn't matter.Yeah. I Gradually they really like start
spicing in the stuff of like,oh, we don't give a shit anymore,
like when they keep like breaking therules but you don't really notice because

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it's kind of like the minor ones, and then it gets more and works.
I feel like have a rule whereit's you can't make anyone fall in
love, right, Yeah, soTimmy wishes for Crocer to have a girlfriend,
which is like, that's fine becauseVicky, because Vicky had a boyfriend.
That's fine, they did that before. Well, what's the rule then?
You can't make anybody fall in love? So how are you making a

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being yet? Like loopholes or theycan like get around a previous rule that's
set up by going like oh thisother thing actually, like yeah, like
where that the special where Tiny's parentsmeet Cosmon Wanda And it's like, oh,
we can actually keep them if wejust don't tell anyone to buy it.
It. We just don't tell thisJorgan. That's like, that's a

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fucking dumb loophole for the sake ofmaking it. Like any point in the
series when someone got their fairies takenaway, Jorgan immediately pops up and fucking
steals that shit and wipes your memory. Like that's his fucking job. Yeah,
you know, they even have thefairy cab come and pick them up.
You know. It's it's just Idon't know that whatever, whatever.

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It's yeah, a silly cartoon,that's yeah. That's the thing is that
for a bunch of it. WheneverI was getting really like annoyed by it,
I kept being like, like,this is just yeah, it just
isn't the worst thing. If ifa kid was sitting in front of this,
I'd rather that than cocoa melon,you know, true. Um,
And so it's just like but thenbut then I think back on like season
one, and I'm like, yeah, but it was really cool and it

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was simple. Season one was reallylike, yeah, it was simple,
simple, but it was all reallylike ambitious and like they really went out
there with everything and they tried theirbest to make it. Like you know,
Season like nine and ten is whenthey're trying to write four kids,
you know, writing what they likesee. But like in the beginning,
a lot of it was very likeit was compositive, very well. Yeah,

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you know, the composition and thestoryboarding was really strong and impactful.
Now and like season nine or notnow but it's canceled. But season nine
and eight ten, I mean it'slike all these flat shots and they hold
in the same yeah, in thesame room for so long. Remember when
Timmy actually does the family Guy likehe's walked up the sparks and he's like

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he's like, oh, thank youfor that. Like he's like like classic
family Guy moved. What kind ofmusic do you like? Gloria Hippo?
Yeah? Really odd parents though,you know, brought us together a great
show got the start of this podcast. Is the thing it keeps me,

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making me like go back to seasonone and two and being like, damn,
that was really cool, like whatthey were trying to do more.
Yeah, it does make me appreciatethe early seasons more and even like seasons
like because whenever I think back,I were like, yeah, season one,
two and three is really good,but season four and five, but
it's just okay. But then Iwent back a lot of good ones.
Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing thatkind of like tops like all the specials

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in the cool episodes they're doing seasonone or three, but it's still like
oh but they're still good though.Yeah. I used to think of it
as like, yeah, seventy percent, it's just like, you know,
it's all right, But now I'mlike, no, it was good,
it was all right. Yeah thatwas good. Yeah, it's the same
thing, but there's like different connotations. You know. One's like like it's
okay, but the other one's like, oh, it's actually okay. Yeah,
I know, you know what Imean. We're very tired right now.

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Yeah, it's pretty late. Yeah, it's been like NonStop, like
for the past five days, wakingup watching fairly Apparents, going to band
watching fairly Apparents. Yeah, andthere was a couple nights. I always
get to the point in the rankingvideo where I'm like, okay, perfect,
I'll speed things along. I'll juststay up all night. I'm watched
through three seasons at once, Butyou forget how much time it takes to

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like watch one season. Yeah,for some of these fairly add parents seasons,
it would be like, oh,okay, let me, we got
our phoness here nine and a halfhours, yeah, to get through that
one season. So if you werestarting to watch that at night to pull
null nighter, you would not bedone until the morning's that, like the
morning's here, you know, Andeven then you'd have to articulate your thoughts
enough to write something down, yeah, and then accord it. And you're

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always sitting like, yeah, wellyou're watching it. You can't, Like,
it's harder to appreciate it when youknow you have to like write stuff
about it. You know, youcan just kind of take it for what
it is at times, But Idon't know, it's I think it's a
fairly apparents is one of the rerecases where most anyone agrees that the later
seasons are trash, Whereas like SpongeBob, people get mad when he sam modern

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SpongeBob's bad. People get mad becausethey will defend SpongeBob to the same thing
will like Family Guy and Simpsons allsome of those, like Simpsons has gotten
We watched a couple of the newerones and they were a little better from
when I last watched any of it. When it comes to fairly eye parents,
it's the one where I expect thatno one's gonna argue with me on
saying that the early ones are theones. Early ones are the best and
the later ones are terrible. Sonat so many points because even by the

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time it gets to like season likenine, like ten, even some of
season ten, I always see inthe credits at the start that's like storyboarded
by Butch Hartman, and it's like, it is weird that he was one
of those creators who stuck fairy handson until the end. But then it
makes me go like, was hejust not like he'd have to have seen
these like scripts then and what they'resaying and how they're like disrespecting like what
he said I'd like to do,And I guess, how do you know

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that he didn't think of those ideashimself? And it's kind of just like,
oh, who cares about continuity?It is the point where it gets
so exaggerated that you just keep talkinglike it's the kind of thing where Okay,
set up the rules early on TimmyKen expose its fairies to anyone.
If he does, they get takenaway. But then they have a couple
episodes later on where they try towork around that by like they have an

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episode where Poof gets in like thehands of Timmy's mom and dad, but
they don't realize it's a fairy,so it's not technically caught. Cosmo and
Wanda go to a costume party atTrixie's. Yeah, it was out in
the open, yeah, and it'slike, oh, that's fine, Yeah,
like the Halloween one. Yeah.Yeah, But then they start doing
the thing where a character will seethem, but they'll get like injured,

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or they'll get hit in the head, or they'll just like lose their memory.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like,oh, they caught them, but
it was immediately undone. That's fine, but Dan it got to the point
where it was like, oh,character sees them, but they just mistake
them for something else or don't recognizethat their fairies because everyone's dumb, And
then that got exaggerated into oh ifyou don't tell jargon. Yeah, it's

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just like they're just a rhyme mind, they're just they just hang out with
Timmy's dad and they stop. There'slike five episodes in a row when they
get introduced Sparky where they have thesame moment where Sparky talks in front of
Timmy's dad and he's like, wait, you can talk, and then that's
that's it, just to acknowledge that, you know what that is. Though,
what if that's just a rip?This is a theory. This is

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me theory crafting. This is theorycrafting right now. What if it's a
thing where it's like Butch saw SethMcFarland. Do it remember in Brian's in
Love, Oh my God, youcan talk. They're at the bar.
You don't think. So it doestry to do that kind of like manly
like man humor. You know,you don't think, so don't now I

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get thinking back at the joke.I don't think it was specifically about one
episode of season So, yeah,Butch really wants to make Timmy's Dad a
thing, yeah by season nine,but it's because Dink the meme Dinkelberg,
Yeah, like blew up and likethey had like the meme or the trophy

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meme, like if I had one, and they had like him bashing through
the door and they had him atthe pageant, you know, all these
like big wacky moments with him thatfans loved. So they're like, oh,
would you choose him more? Peoplelike like the show, and so
they aren't you doing like episode afterafter episode where it's all white Timmy and
his dad. But the whole pointis that his parents were neglectful, don't

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care. There's an opportunity for morejokes. Yeah, exactly. Even towards
the end of the series, likethey completely get rid of their main antagonist,
which is Vicky. Like Vicky isliterally no longer there. I think
Vicky is maybe in like one episodeof the last season, and she's in
every title card. You know,Yeah, she is the opener, she
was the central lined. But butno, it Crocker's then been antagonists by

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the end, it's just but thenCrocker's not even really an antagonist. He's
just another character along. It's thatthing again where it's like everyone loves Crocker.
He's wacky, he's silly, andhe has a little catch freezes like
that you have fairy god parents,and he's like the villain, you know,
so it's cool. So they're like, oh, we want to have

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Crocker be the main character. Moreso he just becomes last of a villain
and more of the protagonist for alot of episodes. Yeah, on the
whole joke is that he's incompetent.You know, you just run it into
the ground because you spend the wholeepisode, which is kind of dumb because
he was always like a very verysmart person. He was just crazy obsessed
with fairies, that was it.But he was a genius. He has
a whole lab, like he makesinventions. You know, how is he

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like so much? Like how ishe an idiot? And it's really funny
because there was something that me andMark noticed where and Channel Chasers when they
go to the Simpsons land, right, Timmy points out to Cosmon Wanda,
how like all the adults are justidiots, they're morons. Hey, yeah,

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but then you go to the endof the series and that's exactly what
it is. But it's like hedoesn't care about that kind of stuff as
long as it's funny. It's likeone of those shows work gets to that
point. But then it's the sameargument. It's like, why are you
gonna get mad at a kid's silly? At the end of the day,
this is just like talking about itbecause we enjoy you know, yeah,
we just really liked At the endof the day, it's not that big

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of a deal. But my parentsonly had like six, Yeah, we're
really considered to just watch the firstthree again. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Um yeah, So they have Timmy'sdad, who everyone loves and as
an amiable character, and they havemister Crocker, who everyone loves as me
and as amiable character. And they'relike, oh, it's it's it's gold
if we just put them in thesame episode together, you know's they're friends

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now. Yeah, they start havingepisode after episode where it's both of them,
like where it's like, oh,we're doing a neighbor who had watched
It's it's Timmy's dad and mister Crockerare It's like that the team up to
like all the women, Timmy wishall the women are gone in the world.
So it's Crocker's dad, Timmy andhanging out in the living room.

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Like it just becomes like bumming aroundbefore, Like what if we hear these
characters together, tom My friend tomMy friend tom and we always liked um
he says, mirror, mirror onthe wall, who's the biggest bum of
the Not clever, funny at all, but he always like dumb. He

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goes on like like random people's faceprofiles, like messages them that you know,
it's just becomes like here's the concept. There you go. But then
but but then by season ten,it becomes here, here's like the episode,
here's the structure. Then you havethe conflict, like this is the
start, this is the end.The conflict doesn't come into plan until like

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here, you know, like seventyfive percent of the way through the episode.
Like whenever they switched a flash,they clearly were told like, okay,
you need to keep certain episodes withincertain like background budgets, you know,
So their episodes where it's the charactersjust standing against one backdrop and then
repeating the seam of jokes to eachother for like five minutes or they stop
and like a character will say somethingdumb and the character will like another character

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will look at them and be likethat's a dumb thing, and they're like,
why is it a dumb things likethem arguing and bickering one another time.
Yeah, yeah, it really isdroning. And you know what's crazy
is it doesn't take very long tojust make one like random gradient background with
a little square for a whim.Is that they try to get more ambitious
with the background. The old oneswere like superly easy Yeah, they had
just like two lines and like abox for a window, and that was

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like enough. It was evident thatwhoever was like doing the backgrounds were just
tracing from our going off the storyboards. Yeah, because it was all loose,
It was all nothing was like articulatedlike thoroughly, you know, it
was all just like done and thatwas the biggest charm of it all.
Yeah. So by the end ofit, they really start like adding like
gradients and like gutters to Timmy's houseand like they start like making everything try

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to look pretty. Yeah. Itlooks like they do that with the animation
too though, where they like forgetthat it's also to be like super snappy
with like strong posing. It's notjust the characters of waving. A lot
of the animation towards the end ofthe series becomes that thing where it's like
it's like Storytime animators, you know, or where it's a bounce to every

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movement you move, arm has abounce. Blink, you have a bounce,
And I get you're going to havesome formative that with like rigged in
issue and something obviously like it givesit gives the character more life. Yeah,
but the way you know, Butcheven described it in our podcast where
he was saying how Healing had alimited budget, so he didn't mind that
the animation wasn't that good, solong as they budgeted themselves for the stuff

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they wanted to like invest in.And so when you look at like season
nine and ten, you kind oflike, where is that. It's like
overcompensating. Yet, Yes, there'san episode I don't remember which one it
was. It was in season ten. I was like, I was like
overwhelmed. There was so much shitgoing on. Yeah, I was like,
holy fuck. Why. Like it'slike all these different characters who they
just automatically assume you'll know and likealready, like like they just take the

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characters people like like Mark Chang orkat Man or you know, and it's
like episodes where all these characters likeTimm's dad will show up, the Crocker
will shovel, then cam Man willshow up, and then it's like his
mother will show up. You know. It's just shit like that where it's
just trying to make you laugh withlike whatever, it has all this wacky
shit going on in the background,and like also Timmy hardly wishes anymore.

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No, the last episode of thewhole series doesn't even have him wishing for
anything. Yeah, they just wantto keep shoving in characters hoping that like
you'll like one of them, andit's like where they can make a meme.
But the thing is, Fairly OddParentswas never that funny of a show.
See Fairly Odd Parents was always charming. Yeah, exactly charming. That's
why I liked it. Characters whojust all like each other, you know,

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like trying to Like Timmy's like alittle underdog, you know, everyone
everyone him, so you'll like thathe has to like people as high as
who like he's always like there forhim, you know, even his friends,
like in the beginning of the seriesto him. Yeah, his friends
were shitty to him. The firstepisode with him is them like sneaking into
his room and like making fun ofhim and then jumping inside the TV you

(21:06):
know true, Yeah, playing hisvideo games. Yeah, asking aj like
rubs it in Timmy's face that hegets like straight a's you know. Yeah.
They're all like a little prick likeactual kids yea. Yeah. And
then there's like Francis, which ishis bully. Crocker's his teacher who doesn't
who like fails him all the time, and no one else really notices him.
Yeah, nobody else gives a fuckabout him. Yeah, I really
like that. Early on it waslike all about isolating Timmy and someone in

(21:30):
some form, you know, likethat that was what was the basis for
all so many episodes early on justopened up with like all three like comic
strip, you know, where it'slike Timmy doing one thing and then the
problem happens. He does another thing, like at school, and another problem
happens. Are the same problem frombefore happening. He does a third thing,
the same problem happens, and hegoes, how many wishes the opposite?
Yeah, and then he learns bythe end that he was better off

(21:51):
not having wished for anything. Itwas always like it was always what you
wish for, yeah, yeah,and then later on it's just like,
oh I need this right now,I'll wish for it, you know,
like Oh I won my dog tobe a human, I wish for it,
you know. And she like that, Steve, But I like,
I also liked that in the beginningof the series, it was this thing
where like Wanda was kind of likethe she was the voice of reason,
but it was it wasn't like howwhat they made her towards the end where

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she's just like a nagging bitch.Yeah, Like her punchline for four seasons
was her going nag, nag,nag, like and it's like that's not
what she was. She would alwaysbe like, oh, Timmy, I
don't know about this, Maybe youshouldn't do this. She would be doing
it like she already knows the answer, but she's like supposed to let him
like figure it out for himself.Yeah, just trying to like yeah,
you know, like they're they're likethey're parents, right, so it's like

(22:37):
they're kind of guy, yeah,the guide Timmy into doing the right thing.
It's like, you know, what'sa good example the Vicky episode when
he wishes that Vicky was a kidand then he's her babysitting. Yeah,
and she's like, I don't knowif you should, Like she's like,
you just made a little cry.I always really like that like kind of
parental aspect of it, where itis them like teaching him how to be

(22:59):
a better person. Then later on, in like season ten, because they
have so many characters, cosmon towant to just kind of like fall to
the west side, so they canhave like like Timmy talking to Chloe or
I'm talking to his dad or Crockerand everyone's in a while. Cousin Wanda
will like come in for a littleyeah yeah, or they're just there to
like make the wishes. But halfthe time they don't want them to make

(23:21):
the wishes because they know there's noconflict they can come up with, so
they're like, oh, where's thewands so we can wish for this thing
to be done. It's like,oh, I threw them away at the
start of the episode of screen andit's like, just you clearly don't want
to write. These shows happen somany times, so there's a lot of
episodes with that. It's like,oh, we lost our wands. How
I don't know. Yeah, theyget really it's done something where it's like,

(23:41):
damn, you got really lazy,because early on they would do that
occasionally, you know, yeah,but you don't really notice it because it's
like, oh, it's every nine. Then you know that it's it's like
oh, tut TUTTI had their wandsand threw it in her collection of ones.
Like that's like, okay, thatmakes sense. You've seen it,
like being taken away as like toup the steam as the action is like
rising. Yeah, before like atime limit is reached, because there's always

(24:03):
like some sort of time pressure.Something's always time sensitive, before his parents
get back, before Vicky gets back, or something you know like that,
yeah finds out. Yeah, it'salways some shit like that. And then
that makes me think, like inmy head, it's like, Okay,
that is pretty limited in scope andthe plots you can come up with that,
So I get why you would justslowly start veering towards It's not limited

(24:25):
because your fucking plot is. Youcould wish for anything. Yeah, but
if it always has to like revolverun some kind of like life lesson our
message, It's like I get how. It's like it's easier just to be
like, what if Timmy wish toknow, Well, what's an episode that
was in Let's look at our let'slook at your ranking list right now.
What is an episode that is inyour top that didn't have a lesson?

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Let's look, um, Jimmy,Timmy Power Our two is the second one.
Yes, the lesson was he hadto treat his friends better. That
was Thomy. That's the three.Wait, what God, what's the second
one, and again, who's thebad guy in the second one the anti
fairies and Professor Klein. That's right, that's right, he fuses with Jordan.
The second one is the one I'vewatched the least. The first one
i've is my favorite, and I'vewatched the most. And then the third

(25:11):
one is like the one that wasalways playing yeah yeah, because it was
on this recent one. Schools Notthe musical also doesn't have a lesson.
Ever, Catastrophe doesn't have a lessoneither. The Secret Origin of Denzel Crocker
doesn't have it, Yes it does. What's the moral? The moral was
you can't you can't change the past. That's not the moral at all.
But but it's high up on thelist because it's like, you're not every
fucking cartoon needs to teach a moral. I know that, you know,

(25:33):
no, I know, that's justthat. That's just the thing when you
when you talk about morals and cartoonsare lessons, a lot of people are
like, what does everything need tomoral? Like why can't stuff just be
fun? It's like I just threeX structure and I just give little teacher
to kill a lesson. At theend of the day, you know,
you would hope that they would havea moral because it's just shows the character
changing. Yeah, they learned something, like I feel like that's just part

(25:53):
of any like story. Moral islike the keyword for it, but so
it's just the character develop. Yeah. Yeah, in someone, That's what
I liked about it early on.A lot of the ones near the top
of the ranking, though, don'thave a moral, but they're high up
because they're just cool. You know, like not everything needs a moral.
Sometimes a cartoon could just be likea cool little like story like that the

(26:15):
Denzel Crocker the Origin one from Ilove that episode. Yeah, that's really
good. There's no moral, youknow, it's just the moral was you
can't change the past. It wasjust because it was character like it was
it was showing what happened to Crocker, and it was really cool that Timmy
is the cause of how it's likecircles back. Yeah. So it's it's
like there's no like, it's notabout Timmy learning a lesson, but it's

(26:37):
just like, oh that was cool. That was a cool little past.
You have ones like Jimmy T twowhere it's like there's no moral, but
it's cool just say Jimmy and Timmytogether like doing shit. What about Miss
Dimsdale. What's the lesson there?Yeah, there's no, it's just like
ell silly little I'm aware that,like, yeah, fairly odd. Parents
had a lot of nonsense throughout it. Serious you didn't character there's a balance.

(27:00):
Yeah, well there was a balancebecause it was kind of like Timmy
was being a prick and in someway got it. Is like yeah,
as Check or one of his likeantagonists would like like the miss didn't seal
one is just that he notices Vickyis like trying to cheat, trying to
cheat, but it's like all inlike his own kind of geen because it's
like, oh she wins, shegets to be like Mayor for a day.
I think, yeah, she canmake him be like yeah, her

(27:21):
slave. Yeah. So it's there'salways like some threat to Timmy. You
know. It's just like he's sittinground and he's like, oh, I
want like to go go cutting tothat, you know, I wish to
go go cutting. Yeah, likethat's the episode. Um that that's really
what it kind of becomes at theend of the day. Yeah, And
it's really sad to see because youcan like kind of see it's former self

(27:44):
like fade away. Yeah, yeah, lay in there, and it's like
it's kind of sad seeing its slowlyfeared dude, seeing seeing it in flash,
it's like, oh oh, it'slike how it's animated. Like they
could have done it. They couldn'thave done it where Like they could have
pulled it off and made it lookgood, but they didn't have the time,
time or the resources. Yeah.Yeah, so I can't blame him,
and I just think of, like, Butch, how'd you let this

(28:06):
happen? He got a show tenmore episodes than it would have otherwise.
You know, that's the process.It's more about he's a good legacy.
Yeah, it's it's a white likeI have a show in the air.
You know, I'm hit, I'mcurrent. You think things, Yeah,
I think you think that, likeif I don't have a show in the
air, then what am I doing? You know? Because he had like

(28:26):
four shows in the air, hehad shows on the He's had a show
in the air for like fifteen yearsat that point. I respect but I
respect him. Yeah, and Ihad Dora's early work. Yeah. People
try to like take a lot ofcredit away from him by being like,
well, was actually this guy whodesigned like these characters? It's like,
no, he if you look atthe credits for a lot of the early
ones, he's like on yeah,yeah, So it's like and yeah,

(28:49):
I bet you a lot of theepisodes you like, which was a part
of it. Yeah. I justrespect him as a as an artist.
Yeah, I respect him as anartist. What he what he did,
and it's an artist to leave thiscurrent crocker drugs. Okay, but I
really like the Flappy Bob and Iwant that so badly. I should have

(29:11):
asked him. I should have askedhim. Should have asked him. We
were gonna meet Butch Hartman and thecomic Con, but then I was working
on this video, so we couldn'tget on. I really want to know
what though, imagine if you wouldhave went down and put footage of you
saying hi to him in your video. Yeah, that would have been cool.
Would have been delaying in a weekthough. Also, I'm afraid to
like me meet him ever again,because it's almost like I met up with

(29:33):
him in person and wasn't I sawhim and did a podcast with him and
then immediately make a video, madea video making fun of the fact that
I just faked a podcast to meetup with him. But it's not fake.
It's not, but it's real.You're watching it. If you want
to sit here, you can sitright here next to us. I watched
all of your show, butch Ithink I'm owed it. I sat through

(29:53):
Chloe. But you're the reason whywe got married. You, but you
you were the one. Chloe isbetter than the dog. Chloe is better
than the dog. The dog islike the ultimate like cringe e like,
oh nothing, you know what it'slike. I realized it's like the dog

(30:15):
is like, oh what if weadded like another Cosmo to the group.
And then Chloe's like, oh whatif we added another one into the group?
You know, they're like stereotypical.I think it's the thing where Chloe
is like the anti Timmy. Yeah. They make it a big effort to
like fucking shove in your face inthe first episode there, opposite to you.
Yeah. And then for Sparky,I think it's a thing where they

(30:37):
wanted Sparky to be the new funTimmy's friend with the new funnier Cosmo.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Andit's just the thing where I can't help
but look at it, and I'mlike, why did you think this would
be good? Like it's they hadthe success of like Poof. You know,
Poof was the biggest episode of thewhole show. It was like nine
million viewers. It's the most viewedepisode of the whole show. Um yet,

(31:02):
like it's it's a baby. Theydon't talk, you don't have to
do any effort. The baby justhas to like float around and everyone's happy.
But you know what, Poof getsa decent amount of screen time,
but not enough where they're annoying andthey're actually fine. The only time why
I was ever annoyed with Poof waswhenever they do the school episodes. Yeah.
Yeah, it really just makes merespect the early seasons more. It's

(31:23):
weird it changes dramatically from season fiveto six, even though it's not like
HD or anything, because remember theanimation goes through this weird like transition transition
where it's when more like it's activenot Yeah, they're a lot more.
They're like doing more like faces,funny faces and lighty fiaces, and doing
more gags like looney tune gags,and everything's like double shaded, you know.

(31:45):
Yeah, and it looks it looksgood, but some of the charm
was lost. Yeah, it's justdifferent. Yeah, it's trying to be
like really, it's when it startstrying to be like a wacky slapsteak card.
Yeah. It really gets like injuredall the time. Yeah, they
really play up the looney tune gags. Yeah, and I personally don't like
that. I think it could ifit's done well and it's every now and

(32:06):
then, that's fine, But theydo it. They do it a lot
because I think they're trying to findtheir footing comedically. Yeah, but you
shouldn't be trying to find that inseason six when your previous style was already
working. Just fine, I know, but maybe you know what though,
like ratings wise, did you lookat the ratings for each season? Really
Odd Parents consistently did really well inthe network up until season ten. I

(32:29):
think even a lot of season ninewould get like five million viewers sometimes.
I think that's the episode where theyintroduced the dog got five million viewers,
but then the episode where they introducedChloe one million because nobody gave a ship.
Yeah that but also your streaming andstuff. But it's the thing where
I'm sure kids at the time,we're watching that and going like, there's
just more Philly up parents is fine? Is cool? I remember when I
heard they added a girl. Iwas pissed. I was like how I

(32:52):
was like, how the fuck doyou add a girl? Yeah? How
do they fucking share? Ye sucks? And they could have made Chloe work.
The whole gimmick is that she's tooperfect, you know, so sometimes
she messes up when she tries tohelp people, and she loves sharing and
being nice. But they could haveeasily mean it like, oh, she
is like forced to be perfect allthe time, and her parents are super

(33:14):
straight. It's like the opposite ofTimmy yea. Her parents are like always
on her and Cosmo and Wanda aregiven to her as a reprieve from her
like stressful life home. Yeah yeah, like that would have been a way
better. But then not every charactercould be like a dumb, wacky,
silly character. They'd have to writecharacters what I mean, But it's like

(33:36):
Vicky was mean, the dentist wasmean, but like Jorgan was mean.
But then they just make like Vickycomedically mean, where it's like she has
and saws yeah, and she's likeher parents are terrified of her, and
she's like a big threat to everyone. Everyone's scared of her. Yearly on
she was just like a bitchy girl, Dan Jim. But you know what,
I really really like the episode whereVicky has the nice or like the

(33:57):
evil bug. I like that one. She's like really nice and tim Me
like really likes her. Yeah.I like the plot of that one.
Yeah, that's a good one.Yeah. No, And then Vicky just
doesn't even appear later on. Um, yeah, Vicky has gone for the
rest of the series. Yeah,pretty much. You see her at the
end of season nine, but sheonly appears once in season ten, and
it's in the episode where she's likethreatening Timmy's dead with a cheinsaw while he

(34:21):
wears a helmet to indicate that he'slike dumb, like mentally challenged. Then
they have Foop just hanging out withthem, not not being a villain,
while Vicky's like talking two of thefairies and Timmy's dad's talking to the fairies
and no one cares. You know, they don't draw attention to it,

(34:43):
and that that's a twenty two minuteepisode. Two, it's just twenty two
minutes. It's nonsense. Yeah,it's just why can we fill the site
with what rigs do we have layingryand And at one point in season ten,
near the end of the show,they have Edget and Trixie and Twiti
a shot in season ten in flash, but it's in a cry shot where

(35:04):
it's like it's like a line andit's like panning across and it shows them
and they're all just like clearly modelcut out p andngs of them. They
don't blink, they don't move atall. And then like and it really
draws attention to the fact that inthe early seasons the characters were rarely drawn
on model. Yeah. It wasalways like artists who had their like own
slightly different Like if you look atthe way John Finden like draws Timmy Turner

(35:27):
is very different than how Butch drawsTimmy. Yeah, yeah, we'll put
two, it'll put them up forcomparison. And I don't know. I
liked when Timmy had like a longerhead, he had a longer head,
shorter hair, had a bigger body. Yeah, he was long. He
was like, yeah, about likehalf of his body was a half size
of his head. But then bythe time you get to season ten,
it's like a direct tree a modelsheet Timmy, which was like he has

(35:50):
these giant fucking bug eyes, butthey're like perfect circles, like just slapped
in the middle of his face.Then he has these giant teeples and yeah
people and teeth, and his hairlike flows all the way down. His
hair flips down too much, andhis hat's really big and long. Yeah,
and he's got a giant head anda tiny body and it just looks
ter I liked when I like whenhe's like in yeah, when he sludged

(36:12):
over, but also when he's likein the Jimmy Neutron universe, and um,
like he's just like a guy,you know, he's just like kind
of like has a normal like bill. He's not like a fucking like tiny
little chimpy thing. Yeah chimmy.Yeah, it looks terrible. Um So
anytime I see like model sheet tome, because they love using him,
like slapping him one tim on everything, the big like um schools out Musical,

(36:37):
the big little Oval office picture hasthe model sheet Timmy. Any picture
on two Dy's wall, Model sheetTimmy. Yeah, that the the Hall
of Timmy's in the wall of them. I think he is funny, but
when it's like him like being abread and episodes. It's like, I'm

(37:00):
just watching this little fucking baby,right, and they're really like because he
has to share his fairies, they'rereally up is like braddiness. Yeah,
he is kind of a Brett.Yeah, he's like they turn him into
like a cool Bart Simpson. Youknow sings impeachable? Put on impeachable?
Right? What is impeachable? Veronica? It's Tara Strong and Tommy Pickles.

(37:24):
It's Tommy Pickles and Timmy Turner singingHe's impeachable, which is a parody version
of you are beautiful. You knowyou are beautiful. Oh yeah, we're
seeing a way. But it's aboutDonald Trump and how Donald Trump should be
impeached. But they hit the highnotes. It's Tommy Pickles like wheeling.

(37:47):
Look that that's really funny, funny. Hear that? Well, full show
you guys. You don't have tolook it up. He's impeachable? What
sing Strong? Come onto our podcastwill We couldn't do a live cover of
Impeachable it worked so lame. Soit reminds me of like the imagine like

(38:09):
COVID thing that oh my god,you no, well, imagine all the
people say, yeah, you're suremaking a difference. Yeah, it's like
all you fucking millionaires sitting in yourgoddamn luxury homes great and singing. John

(38:30):
Lennon's next to the Brian Griffin Baldibus wall. Yeah. Look Mark got
the angry Baldi right behind him.I love that angry Baldi. Yeah,
Baldi's busic games a bunch of merch. Yeah. He did shout out to
Mica. Okay, I want togo through your list. Okay, yeah,
go through want I want to atleast go through your like top twenty.

(38:50):
Yeah, Ronica has not influenced mylist at at all. There was
like one or two where I'm like, come on, like okay, so
number one is Channel Chasers, whichI would agree with. Channel Chasers is
the best episode. I remember whenwhen I said that to you, you
were like, not father Time,and it's like father Time. If if
someone sat me down was like,you can either watch Channel Chiasers or father

(39:12):
Time, I'd said father Time,you know, because it's like it's shorter,
it's more snappy, it's got funniermoments. But it's like Channel Chiessers
is like this event, you know, this big epic thing and I can't
help it think about kid and likeseeing that for the first time and seeing
the ending with Timmy's dad and likeall the parodies and how much effort goes
into it, and it's like,Okay, that's the best, you know.
Yeah, No, dude, ChannelChasers like that fucking blew my mind

(39:34):
as a kid. If you satme down and asked me, I'd pick
Channel Chasers, yeah, because it'slike, oh, I just enjoy this
way more. Yeah, it getsme like that little like excited feeling,
you know, every time to watchit exactly. So Channel Chasers, that's
fair. So I go on JimmyTimmy Power Hour two when Worlds Collide?
I disagree. I disagree hard hard. Yeah. Number two, Jimmy Timmy
Power Hour or two. I thinkthat is a fairly odd Parents episode.

(39:58):
I've watched the most. I wouldwatch that. I recorded it on my
my sky keebol box, and Iwatched it on over and over again.
I had all three of them,like recording. I loved watching. I
remember I came home from like soccerand gel Gaelic practice, um like early
one one day and pretended to besick because I saw they were airing Jimmy

(40:19):
Timmy three the first and I've neverseen it before. I think it was
new. Um, but I reallyliked the power. That's how I got
into drawing. I would like sitin front of my TV and I'd pause
the Gimmy Timmy Power over two momentsand like redraw like the Gimmy. Yeah,
I draw like Sheen or draw liketry to drug kas. I wish
I could find those old drawings.I had them on my wall for iages

(40:39):
maybe your Granniasm. Nah, definitelynot. I think I threw them away
at one point. Third one.Schools out Musical, definitely. I would
put Father Time at number two,and I would agree with schools that Musical.
Schools Time. Musical was originally alot lower. It was usually it
was Father Time and stuff was aboveSchools of Musical at one point. But

(41:01):
it's another thing where it's like sobig and there's all these like fun songs.
Yeah, the animation's really like creativeboarding is great, and it's like
I can acknowledge that like father Timeis shorter and more like consistently good,
like snampy and like fun. Butthis is like I have to like marvel
at it, you know. Itwas out musical was a really big deal

(41:21):
too, and it came out.Yeah, I love that was another like
I swear to God, like everyfucking Fairly Odd Parents special, it like
blew my mind. Yeah, becausethey always did something new and different like
this schools out musical. They didn'tdo any musicals before then. Yeah,
you know, they had some songs, but and a lot of shows they
did not like have as much likecontinuity or specials as the Fairly Odd Parents.

(41:42):
You know. Yeah, I feltlike they were constantly like building on
itself, you know. But eitherway, he in the beginning, he
utilized it very very well. Hereally wanted, like to use this simple
plot and tell this grander story withit, and very occasionally he got that.
So I have to appreciate it whenwhen it comes nberfore Father time.
Um, then it's I wish toofar, which is the one where Timmy

(42:04):
wishes that he was cool. Ilike the ending of one, and you
like how he looks. Yeah,and I like the little courtroom stuff or
Timmy gets his little second chance.I like that one. Abcatastrophe aborcatastrophe,
I did not really like. Iappreciate abercatastrophe for on the first one.
It was the first one and itwas really cool and there was a lot

(42:25):
going on the whole fight at theend to sell like visually good. Yeah,
the fight is great him and everythingwith him and Crocker, but it's
the Bippy stuff everything, it's thefucking monkey shit. So I timed it
whenever I we were watching it again. They don't like leave the bedroom for
the first time until twenty minutes intothe special. But literally everything there is

(42:46):
good. It's like I like thesong, I like the little parodies they
do, but it's a thing wherewhen it gets to like twenty minutes in
and the first special is over,I'm like I just watched them standing around
room the whole time. I lookat the bigger picture and it's like,
holy shit, that first half,like with all that stuff and the monkey
shit really drags off, Yes,and like that's where I drop off.
Yeah, is the is the Bippyship? Yeah? I feel like Bippy

(43:07):
the monkey getting like the big nextwish that changes the world is dumb.
It was really dumb. Why isit buy monkeys? Yeah? You know
what should have happened. It shouldhave been the muffin being that whole Biby
time we should have been taken upwith like the Muffin, like Hapatito wing
to all these different people throughout timethat you've gotten to know over the past
three seasons and like him going toalternate universes where like they get their way,

(43:30):
you know, yeah, like whatthe way mister Crockers is. You
know, it's like everyone's version ofthat before mister Crocker gets sent here's did
Yeah, but it's like more ofthat, you know. So that's the
theme, is that it's all thesepeople like getting the ultimate power to rule
the world. But it comes togetherand you're like, Okay, I appreciate
that a lot. And the endingis really good where you like he reveals

(43:50):
to his parents for the first timethat he is fairies. Yeah that and
that was like a really big dealand you're like, oh man, no,
it's like the first is year anniversaryof having his fairy. Yeah,
like he has to give him up. No, it's good, it's it's
good. Great, it's great,it's great. Yeah, but it's just
the bit pie. It's just yeah, the first half and then the secret
origin of Denzel Crocker, which isfucking great. I would put that my

(44:12):
number four. You put that numberfour? Yeah, damn. Yeah.
It's just it's another one of thosethings where like father Time, it gets
over it for being like shorter andsnappier and look fun and funny, um,
whereas like this one is it's whenit kind of like starts getting into
that like the Fairly Odd Parents humorwhere it's like it's like, oh,
at least it's not reading like youknow that kind of humor. Yeah,

(44:35):
And it's like Cosmo being down massand it's like, don't pull the thing,
Cosmo, and he's like okay,and then he pulls it in the
jug as he pulls it, youknow. Yeah, it's like that kind
of stuff. Um. But it'sone of those cases where the plot and
how like cool it is and howgood the twists are like elevated above other
ones. Seeing seeing like how Crockerstarted seeing like Crocker like saved Timmy's what
Timmy's mom, right, he savesTommy's mom with his little skateboard. Yeah,

(45:00):
inning or Timmy's dad or something sheis I think dad. The dad's
annoyed. Yeah, dad's really know. The dad's like his friend. He's
like, oh yeah, Dingleberg's overthere and he's all pissed at Dingleberg with
him or whatever. That's right,but like Denzel's like a chat or whatever,
and Timmy ruins it. You're alsoseeing it like go backwards in time,

(45:20):
you know, you go like tenyears before, then twenty years and
thirty years and forty years, andit's all like you get to see is
like his history like going in reverse, how he's been crazy and been ridiculed
his whole life, totally gotten worseover time, and he's like, oh,
this is like the third worst dayof my life, the second worst
day in my life. Then yousee the worst and it's like, oh,
which one Timmy is the reason?Why is fucking Berry's got taken away?
Yeah? That one's great. That'sa great episode. And then the

(45:44):
boys in the Band, which isChip Skyler getting kidnapped by Vicky. I
always love quoting when he's like anotherday another whack could who holding me against
my will? I just like himbecause his voice is so like sub due
compared to everyone else. Yeah,he's like a nice guy. He does
he has a dreamy voice. Ohmy god, I love I always loved

(46:05):
when they bring back his like songslike in the background like the Ringtones or
whatever. Yeah, I like ittoo. The Fairly Odd Parents ring Tones,
Yeah, we were talking about thatthe other day. Um. And
then The Boy Who Would Be Queen, which is the one where Timmy turns
to a girl. Yeah, Ialways like that. I was like,
I was like the joke where timHe's like, you know what I think?
Because I was like, who careswhere you think you're a girl?

(46:27):
They were really like it was evidentlylike really written by men at the end.
You know. Something we noticed too. I was looking up like a
bunch of the writers for the newerepisodes whenever it was happening. Every time
it would be like a fifty yearold woman and it's like, why are
they writing like a ten year oldkid? And I get it, like
whoever can write anything, you know, But it's like the early episodes are
clearly writing, are clearly being writtenfrom the perspective of the writer telling like

(46:50):
a story of when they were akid, you know, like learning a
lesson that like they would have learnedas a kid, you know, like
to be learning that, like peoplelike should like him for who he is
and not the stuff you had youknow, it's stuff like that that like
every kid would go through. Andthen you get to the end and it's
like, oh, they'll wish forlike cartoon characters and the TV to come
to life, and then they'll likehypnotize them to being nice, and it's

(47:10):
like, just fucking it's just jokes. This is wacky all the time.
But that's what I'm saying. Likeit's written like they write it like they
think that this is what children wouldlike want to see. Yeah, they're
writing a kids show, And Ithink that it's just like the younger perspective.
As the older you get, thekind of more you lose that innocence
and are the more likely you areto like lose that like innocence. Okay,
and then we got um very idolfairy idol, which I'm like,

(47:35):
why would you put fairy idol thisfar up? I just like it for
the song honestly, which one giveme though? Why? Yeah? I
gets stuck in my head a lottoo. Don't get me wrong. I
love Norm McDonald. I like thestuff with Chester finally getting Fairies. Yeah.
I like Chester like trying to dogood and like he's like recognized as
living a miserable life. Like atfirst he was happy being miserable, but

(47:57):
now he's actually miserable. I likeTimmy um getting just such a point in
the series where he's like so selfishand like he turns into Crocker. Yeah,
it's like him like which using hisgodparents just to like dress him in
the morning, and he's like takingadvantage of them. Like there then being
there is no longer like cool andmagical to him. It's just like the
norm. Yeah, but he alsowas like tricked into like losing his fairies.

(48:20):
Yeah, like he was rude alittle bit at first, but then
like Norm does his thing or whatever, and then it's like, oh,
okay, why are you having asinging competition? Yeah, yeah, that's
the thing. It's all beast aroundomarketing stunt. But I like this.
It's the one where I like alot of parts of it, but it
doesn't come together to make the vastepisode. But I still like those parts
enough. I like the little partwhere Timmy cousin wanted to walk down the

(48:40):
rainbow back there. Yeah you're no, okay, you're reminding me of a
lot of the good things. Iguess you know what it is is I
just didn't like the gimmick. Yeah, the gimmick bothers me, but I
like, I like the song.I love Norm McDonald. Then it's Shiny
Teeth and that's when he gets astolen which I don't know why you would

(49:00):
put that above the Jimmy Timmy PowerHour because of the song, the song
elevates or the fucking fairy idol.I don't know why that would go above
the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour. Andthen the first Timmy Timmy Power Hour is
just like what if this switched place? Which is cool, but it's like
I know you mean, I knowyou mean it. The steaks aren't high
enough for you. I get it. What about emotion commotion, which was

(49:22):
I like that that's what we're Timmywishes for all his emotions to go on.
Oh yeah, okay, yeah,was like babysitting all of them.
Yeah, I like that one.That one's a good one. Yeah.
And then Power Mad that's the secondepisode. That's where um oh the video
game. I just like when he'slike, I have three lines, I
have three lives, push them.Jimmy Timmy Power Hour, three drinknads,

(49:49):
which let's less specially why is thatgo above a partnership. It's still good,
doesn't deserve to go about I thoughti'd changed a partnership. No,
a partnership is after the same game. You know what, after realizing it
doesn't even matter because I already sentoff the audio to the editor of where
everything was fucking partnership should be aboveshiny teeth, it should be above fairy
idol. That's the one where Wandahas to win Cosmo back on a fairy

(50:12):
dating game because Cosmo's mom or heforgot the anniversary. He thought he thought
she forgot No, okay, itwas it was the false Anger anniversary and
he thought it was the Styrofoam anniversary. That's yeah, I love that episode
so much. When I looked atthat, I was like, hard that
get all the way down there.It's one of those ones that slept through.
But yeah, you get it.Picked the fairy. But that's another

(50:37):
one where I'm like, I likeit for a lot of select moments,
but then I think about, likethe episode where they go into the video
game, and I'm like, thatwas fun for me as a kid.
They'll see that I liked it,but it was played a lot. Yeah,
I like to see him game whereTimmy learns that, uh, like
if people are going to be dixedthem at our why he had it's Gilbert
Godfrey doing it really funny, Like, you know, what I really like
about that episode is that Timmy's momis the one that like defends Yeah.

(51:00):
It's like the only time ever.Yeah, she like beats the show.
She literally pelts someone dodgeballs over andover again, like she she smashes their
teeth in. That's right, shesmashes their teeth in. Yeah, dude.
And Timmy's parents in the beginning ofthe series were so fucking goaded.
They were fun. Yeah yeah,I mean like they neglected him, sure,
but they were like fun and theyactually loved each other. Yeah,

(51:22):
and they were like they were oblivious. But it was never like their dum.
It was always just like, oh, they're too caught up in their
own lives. Because that was thewhole thing, is that it was like
everyone so caught up in being anadult that like it's like, oh,
Timmy has like a chance to havefun and be a kid. It's like
the ultimate kid fantasy show. Youknow. It's like no one understands them.
All the adults like don't get outlike none of the average kid that

(51:42):
no one understands. Yeah, thebeginning of the fucking intro, they forgot
about that. They forgot about it, but they also used that. Yeah.
Um, I liked the Castle episodewhen they go into the Castle,
the Hall of Infamy. Yeah,as a kid, that was always like,
holy shit, they're going inside theI like that episode a lot too.
I also really liked that their kidscaused World War One and it was

(52:05):
really fun they like openly say thatshe murdered Frank fernand The show was always
really like kind of cynical and edgy. Early on, it almost felt like
it was being written from like likethe the adults writing it were never dumbing
down their humor for kids. Yeah, you know. It was like they
would reference modern culture and they wouldlike reference celebrities and shit like that,
Brittany, and they would like takethe magic world and have such like a

(52:28):
Hollywood like cynical view of it,like the April Fool, who's just like
Jerry Seinfeld, you know, andstuff like that, or um, the
the Easter Bunny's like a little mobsterguy, or it was. Nothing was
ever presented as like are the magicalWorld was never presented as this like amazing
thing where like Fairy World can bebought eyed, but like a hostile takeover
of the company from Pixies, likebuying the mic, you know, like
stuff like that, where it's theytake it like kind of a cynical view

(52:51):
of it, where it's like ajob for them, you know, the
little book because they have to goto Fairy Academy. Yeah, they like
ye, not all fucking like Sunshineand Rain, which is why that episode
where like Timmy switches with Wanda,they would like switch or whatever. Yeah,
that's a good like that's a goodone. Yeah, Yeah, I
always liked that. But then bythe end it's like, oh, babies
and fun and sharing all the time. Yeah, it really does. Like

(53:14):
whenever they introduced poof and they startusing them more, it becomes and then
they make food and they're really likepairing them together. It's like this is
just me watching babies running subtly beforethen when there was more episodes with the
parents and how the parents were slowlystarting to be more involved, like the
episode where like they get their planetbought out or like Darth Laser is gonna

(53:34):
like destroy their whole entire planet.Yeah, and like they're like sitting like
sunbathing or whatever. It's like,why are the parents, Like the parents
aren't going to work, they're notdoing anything. They're just always home and
they're just always chilling. Yeah,and they're always like there's always a gag.
There's always some sort of joke witha dad. That's thing where they
just stopped caring about the rules whereit's like early on it's like, oh,
his parents are on all the timesomething they always get Vicky, but
then later on it's just like theparents are always bumming around the highest so

(53:57):
they don't need Vickis, so she'sjust never there. There's all a thing
where it's like they're it's established thatthey're well off in the beginning of the
series, but then it's also establishedthat they're broke ass poor in the middle
of the series, and then they'rerich at the end. In season ten,
it's like it's like oh, Chloe, me and us rich and then
and every other episode they bring thatup, like we're doing this not because
we're rich, and it's like it'ssuch it's being written for babies, and

(54:19):
it's being written with no regard forthe rules. But they still try to
have like continuity, and it's thesame thing again where it's like it's like
the dog and the Dad's always like, well you can talk, not just
repeating that again and again because it'seasy, you know, Yeah, it's
easy if the Turners are rich,so they can just do like rich stuff
with that, which is dumb becauseit's like, no, you have fairies,
you could do anything you would wantto anyways, Why do you need

(54:39):
to establish that you're rich to beable to do things? Yeah, it
just doesn't make any sense. It'sjust scar It's just a la la lad
in the world. It's just nonsense. Yeah, when it was always like
Timmy's magic was used to contrasts normalfucking called Dimsdal. You know, it's
like boring, it's all gray andlike bland. With then they try to
make everyone the wacky character. Everyonehas to have their moment where they say

(55:02):
something dumbline, Yeah, some quip. In conclusion, that's why the Fairly
add Parents is bad Nune and gladhe got cancer. Fairly Odd Parents is
like one of my favorite favorite televisionseries of all time. What do you
what do you expect for this reboot? Not much I don't expect much.
I'm imagining it's going to be onpar with the last reboot. Maybe you

(55:24):
don't think it will be that bad. I think it'll be gone. I
think it'll be a show where it'sthe same thing as The Fairly Odd Parents,
except Timmy is gone and it's onlyChloe, you know. Yeah,
it's only like the nice, happy, positive girl who loves the world once
world peace. I would hope thatit was a girl who is like kind
of like a cynical, like abit kid. Yeah, like Timmy was

(55:45):
like a dickhead every every protagonist night, and like it like like Disney cartoons,
you know, it's like Goody twoshoes. Yeah, you look at
like Aislehas and um Alhas and Amphibiaand uh go to Molly McGhee hilled his
Netflix. What's the other one?Yeah, But it's it's all like,

(56:06):
oh, it's the happy, quirkygirl. You know. That's nothing about
the quality of those shows, youknow, it's just like that's what it
is. But sometimes yeah that's Nickelodeon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's all like yeah, it's it'sall I was linking. Lad.
Sorry, um, it's all likeum, the happy, quirky girl and

(56:27):
it's like every time it's nice tolike, it's nice for a bit of
ready a boy here and there.Well, that's the thing is that there
are boy cartoons like big, youknow and linking Loud. It's like,
yeah, there's not really anything onDisney or Cartoon Network. Cart Cartoon Network's
nothing right now. But it isthat thing of like if there was a
show out there with like a bitchy, bready like girl, like a version

(56:49):
of the Fairly Parents, they werelike, oh, you know, that's
that makes sense. Yeah, Butif it's just like, oh, this
girl is a little awkward and that'swhy she gets fair easy, how much
you want to bet it's gonna bea thing where it's like, oh,
this girl is living in a traumaticenvironment. No, it's not. It's
definitely not. You don't think youthink it'll be more fun. It's gonna
be like they're gonna do the genericlike I'm moving to a new school and
I'm a bit anxious. I don'tknow how to talk to me anxiety.

(57:13):
It's so quirky. Yeah, it'sgonna be like that, she's gonna have
a little ukulelea. I'm calling itnot Yeah, yeah, you're calling it
now, Yeah, you don't thinkit a little have like a serious undertone
where it's like, wow, theydid an episode where they talked about her
family trauma and that's why she needsto Cosmo Wanda. Maybe sometimes, but
maybe someday they will take it likesuper seriously you know when they do.
Yeah, there will be no levity. Um, but either way, I

(57:36):
am interested interested. I guess you'llhave to see on the Ellison Mark channel
what you think. Yeah, whetheror not I have like a raised eyebrow.
Why aren't you asking me so MarkFrienday funking or family odd Parents?
Why aren't you asking me that?I refused to answer the question. Well,

(57:57):
guys, thanks for watching. Ifyou haven't checked it out, I
got the Fairly OddParents thing. Yeah, but you should watch Mark's video right
here's yeah, oh yeah, yeah, sorry, I think even the show
fairly odd. No, no,watch my video recapping the fairly apart Why
are you plugging fairly Parents? Watchwatch your video? Watch his video right
now, and someone please ship usthe Funko pops. Oh my god please?
Then that's it. But also makesure to like, comment and subscribe,

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