Has Your Zodiac Been Wrong All Along? | True Sidereal Astrology - Meta Mystics

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
You created everything.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Look for a powerful being you are.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
You did these things, but now you're in a human body.
You forget the power you have.

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What you do is what the whole universe is doing
at the place you call here, and now you are
something the whole universe is doing in the same way
that a way is something that the whole ocean is doing.

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You're doing doing what you imagination.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Welcome to meta mysteries where you don't know what you
don't know.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
My name is Jonathan, I'm Sean.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
I was getting ready to say where you don't know
what you don't fucking know, but.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
I really don't decide to pull back. It should have
went for it, shouldn't went for it. I'll had your
back on that well.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
And this is going to be a great example of
not knowing what you don't know. This is something that
we brought up before in the past, but we never
really quite understood it fully, at least not to the
level that we're trying to get to tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
So tonight, before you bring it up, dude, I've never
heard of it at all.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
You know, Yeah, surely there's astrology, but I've never heard
of this until you mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
So yeah, it's dude, it's fascinating and this is actually
going to be you know who taught me about this
was we had a guy come on to the Cult
of Conspiracy a couple of years ago, and I've been
trying to get him on Meta, but he's like super
booked up right now, so shout out Ath and Kamenti.
But he does sidereal astrology and it is freaking awesome.

(01:46):
The way he describes it, it makes.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
The most sense.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
If you're trying to get an accurate reading of what
is going on in the sky. There is no more
accurate way to do it with the stars as they
are in the sky now, not from one hundred and
thirty BC whenever, because that's how tropical astrology is mapped.
It's literally the same constellations with no shift, no earth wobble,

(02:11):
no nothing in tropical astrology as it was in one
hundred and thirty BC. Now a fun little bit of
information I didn't really know, mainly to be honest, because
I don't know exactly what the shape of the Earth
is or what this whole.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Planet is made of.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
We're still doing that, and not necessarily to say it's flat.
I mean, I'm not gonna say, I've graduated from that.
I believe that it's probably more of a matrix. But
that doesn't mean that it's not real in a sense,
whether it is a hologram, whether it's all a simulation.
Maybe it is a giant ball floating in space. It

(02:47):
could be all three. Maybe it's not at least what
we perceive, you know what I mean. Surely there could
be other things going on outside of the realm of
what we could possibly.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Even see, you know. But I mean, as far as
what I what I can see, it seems spherical.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
But well, I mean, and that's what's fascinating about this conversation,
because it kind of implies that it would be spherical.
I mean, he won't say that. I think that he'll
say that it applies to both. But just with my
general understanding of sidereal astrology, I mean, it's either a globe,
a physical globe, or an orb of swords, or it's

(03:24):
something spherical from what I can tell from this, So
that's not what.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
I feel like a lot of the whole flat Earth
stuff comes from Biblical times and when they when they
talked about the Earth and the heavens, the heavens was
literally the sky or the dome, you know, or the
and even other other belief systems where the there was
seven seven heavens or whatever, and so the top one
was the actual firmament. Yeah, so they had no understanding

(03:51):
of the actual outer space aspect of it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah, well, I mean yeah, in the in the Bible
it talks about the firmament.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Then you got Warner von Braun.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
As Psalms I think it was nineteen eleven if I'm
not mistaken, something like that that talks about what was it,
God showeth his handiwork with the firmament above or something
like that, and that was on his tombstone, and you're like,
this guy was one of the one of the more
modern fathers of rocketry, which also I mean x Nazi.

(04:24):
He was an ex Nazi and brought over paper clip
with paper clip and yeah, it got a little weird.
But anyway, that's not what this is about.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Today.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
We're talking about reading the stars as they are if
you were to go outside and you were to look
up right now. Now, I didn't know this. I thought
the tropical astrology that whenever I look at my son's sign,
which in tropical astrology, I'm a tourist, right. I was
always proud of the fact that I was a tourist.
I got a fucking tourist tattoo. I wanted to look
like the rock with the Brahma bull on the arm

(04:52):
and everything, right, Like that was my idol growing up,
and I was like, oh, I actually got a reason
to look like him, now, you know what I mean.
Come to find out that constellation, that sun sign Taurus
is not right, and most people's zodiac is incorrect according
to this sidereal astrology. So we're gonna get a little

(05:15):
weird today, and you don't have to accept it. It's
just an alternative view. This is actually so there's there's
many different types of astrology, but these are the three
main ones that I'm about to name right now. So
you have tropical astrology, which everybody in the Western culture
usually uses, we understand, right. Then you have Vedic astrology,

(05:36):
which is what the Indians use over in India, right.
And then there is Athin Kamente's version, which is sideial astrology.
Because the difference between Vedic and sidereal I actually thought
that they were the same for the longest time. They're
not exactly the same because in Vedic astrology. They use

(05:58):
a version of sidereal, but they still have the constellations
at exactly thirty degrees per each constellation. Right now, anybody
that looks up in the sky, there are way bigger constellations.
There are way smaller constellations. When we're talking about the
zodiacs of the sky. Anybody that's ever seen Scorpio. Scorpio
is the smallest constellation, only takes up seven percent. Why

(06:18):
are we giving it thirty?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Right?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Makes so not all constellations are are equal in.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
That regard, gotch Yeah, exactly, and some are way bigger.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
I believe.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I want to say Virgo is the biggest one. We're
going to get into it today. We're gonna get Hopefully
it's not gonna be upsetting to a lot of people.
Whenever you find.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Out that you're shattering our reality, dude, Yeah, yeah, I
shattered my hope we're here for though.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I think that's it.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
If I don't wake up and shatter my own reality
on a daily basis, I'm doing it wrong.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Something's going on. That's just what it's about.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yeah, So all right, firstly, I do want to get
over to actually Athinkomentee's website, and I wanted to do
this show before we got him on, so we can
actually ask him questions rather than just him going over
the the regular stuff that you know, I wanted to
be prepared whenever we had that show with him. And

(07:11):
so this is actually his website, so shout out athen.
It's called mastering d zodiac dot com. And you can
actually submit to him to have your like perfect chart done,
and he does it. He doesn't even run it through
a system. He does it on his own, so it's
like as perfect as it gets. And so this is

(07:31):
it's actually called true sideial astrology because Vedick is also
called sidereal. It's like Vadick's ideial or something like that.
This is true sidereal and this when he what he
means by true is is that each constellation is the
exact degree that it actually is in the sky.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
So it's it's true to for him, right.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
He goes almost everything online and in the West uses
a system called tropical astrology. Most people aren't aware that
tropical astrology does not use the visit sky. Instead, it
uses the seasons. Roughly two thousand years ago, the constellations
in the sky matched the seasons. The sun was in Aries,
the first sign of the zodiac, during the spring equinox,

(08:12):
but the stars have changed position since then. Today the
sun is in Pisces not Aries during the spring equinox.
There is now a difference of up to two zodiac
signs between tropical astrology and the visible sky.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Up to two.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
That's where it gets weird.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I would imagine that's probably you know, that's probably
for the for the scorpio or soda small. But even still,
I mean, imagine you're too off, like that's crazy. So
for example, mainstream astrology might say someone's sun is in Leo,
while the sun is actually in Cancer. True sidereal astrology

(08:49):
maintains the link between ourselves and the sky by using
the stars as they truly are. Thanks to technology, we
can now see the visible sky in astrological chart form.
With the Internet. True sidereal, true sideial astrology is gaining
widespread adoption. Many now believe this is the most accurate
form of astrology because it uses what is actually in

(09:11):
the sky, a system that we have been using far
longer than the past two thousand years.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
It makes so interesting, it's gonna be so interesting to
find out, you know, how many of us have different
signs and then going forward looking at him and going,
holy shit, this is way more accurate than any other
sign that I've ever read or you know, chart if you.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Will, Yeah, yeah, it's uh, it's gonna get pretty wild.
And we I do have all of those dates pulled up,
so for anybody that is curious, and also, I did
want to say, anybody that is still here at the
end of the show, before meditation, we will give a
sideial astrology reading. I'll just get throw it out there

(09:50):
if you're interested in If you're interested in it, I
got me and Shawn's already because I got his birthday
and his time and all that stuff. So if you
want one, I'm gonna need your your full name, your
date of birth, the city that you were born in,
the exact time that you were born in, the location
that you were.

Speaker 5 (10:07):
Born, and your Social Security number and and then we're
gonna confind you you know, so don't even trip and
it doesn't show I guess you know what I mean,
We get delete.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
That and you're routing an account number, right, Okay, yeah,
just kidding. So anyway, and before we get to the
rest of it, Taylor said, what's up weirdos. Hope y'all
have had a good week so far.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
We have, Yes, it's been a solid week. I'm not
gonna lie, dude.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I've been preparing for this show for over a week
now due because.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Talking about doing the Sidereal Astrology for quite a while, dude,
like several months, if not half a year.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
I think, Well, it's it's strange because you align with
a certain zodiac for all your life and then like,
you go and read that you're not that, and then
you become obsessed with what you know. Sidereal Astrology says
that you are, and you're like, why does this make
more sense?

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah? What is at this?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
That's gonna be interesting. Oh yeah, I already told my wife.
You know, she's a taurust. But I was like, I
think you're in aries according to siderial and she's like, no, no,
I'm a turist. I was like, all right, well we'll
talk later. That's the ego talking, so, you know, ego,
try and hold on. She hasn't had one of those
ego deaths yet, that's right, that's coming. Two toes to

(11:24):
eleven said I'm a Taurus. I also have a tourist tattoo. Yeah, buddy, dude,
I'm pretty proud. I'm not going to get rid of
it by any means. It's just my old self now,
you know, right right? Yeah, that was that was pre
ego death. I think, yes, Taylor, you've incorporated the shadow,
you know. Yeah, Taylor said, uh. Taurus Gang two toes

(11:47):
to eleven said May fifth, baby sinco de mayo. I'm
actually May eighth. It's ocho de mayo. Okay, that's how
I wroll the words of Jacob ye ye yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yee uh, Nick said Aquarius Gang. But probably a Capricorn
in sidereal yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Or aeries right or no? What was it?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, you would get capricorn. We're gonna get to it though.
It's uh, it's gonna be so much fun, all right.
So here we go sidereal where science meets spirit. This
is this is what we've been talking about. Okay, we're
trying to not necessarily go full blown spiritual, full full
blown mythological. We want to have our head in the cloud,

(12:30):
but our gravity centered. I think that that is what
is needed because there are some people that literally think
that they are God's gift and everything that comes out
of their mouth is prophecy. And I just can't with
those people. Okay, So we got to have some kind
of middle path here.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
All right, We got it, you know, we got it
them together.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
We're merging them together, all right, Nick, I'm not talking
about you. I love you, brother, I was you know
who I'm talking about though, anyhow, not to get too specific,
but all right, So astrology has always been about seeing
patterns in the heavens and finding meaning in their reflection
here on earth. But what if the map we've been
using is off by nearly an entire sign. What if

(13:12):
the bridge between the spiritual and the scientific, the right
brain and the left brain, has been sitting above our
heads this whole time, waiting for us to look exactly
where it is. True sideial astrology is not just a
belief system. It's an astronomical reality. Unlike tropical astrology, which
locks signs to the seasons, or Vedic sideial, which divides

(13:34):
each sign into thirty thirty degrees slices, true sideerial uses
the actual constellations in the sky. They're true sizes measured
with the midpoint method. This means the zodiac in your
chart matches the same stars you'd see if you'd look
up with a Planetarium app tonight. When we honor the
real positions of the planets, we unite the mystics intuition

(13:57):
with the astronomer's data. It's the meeting pod of two worlds,
a balanced mind fully.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Wait, there we go. Let's go, dude, let's go.

Speaker 5 (14:07):
I mean, I said, then then there has to be
way less scorpios than we even thought, not just you
know or just mathematically you know, there has to be
way fewer scorpio even possible.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Well, it's strange too. Well, so there's it's it's the smallest.

Speaker 7 (14:25):
Um.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're gonna get to that. So it's tied for the
smallest actually, and the reason why it's so small is
is because they.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Actually have there.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
There are thirteen signs in sidereal astrology, so you have
your main twelve, your aries Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Scorpio,
and then also a Fucus. So what they did was,
I believe because Scorpio and a Fucus are right next

(14:55):
to each other and they're the two smallest, so I
believe that, you know, traditional astrology would just call that
one altogether scorpio, but within truce iideial astrology, it's divided
into two different ones. So that's why you have a
scorpio and O Fucus both at thirteen degrees totalk of

(15:19):
of the entire sky.

Speaker 3 (15:20):
So but we're gonna get to that.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So the core difference between tropical vedic and true sidereal.
So tropical astrology uses uh, it fixes zero degrees areas
in the spring equinox, which is March twenty first, ignoring
Earth's axial wobble. So Earth, you know, she's a fat
bottom girl. She got a little wobble to her, all right,

(15:44):
and she's not always walking a straight path, right, nothing
wrong with that, you know. Sometimes the hips just go
from side to side.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
It is what it is, dude.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah, So so there's gonna be a little bit of
wobble which tropical astrology does not account for. Then there
is your common sidereal, which would be vedic.

Speaker 6 (16:04):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
There's also a couple other ones there there are There's
one that's called Lahiri and then one that's called Fagan Bradley.
There are just two different types of sidereal. These adjust
for procession, but still divides each sign into equal thirty
degree portions, So it accounts for the wobble, but not

(16:25):
for the percentage, right, crazy none, Yeah, true sideial using
the midpoint method uses the real constellation boundaries in the sky,
with each sign reflecting its true astronomical size because of procession,
which is so procession is that that wobble right which
causes us to go out of line every so often?

(16:49):
Which so because of the procession, which is one degree
drift for every seventy two years. Okay, so it's drifting
one degree every seventy two years, seems my new but
over the course of two thousand.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
Years, it's a lot okay.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
So uh, with the with the procession one degree drift
every seventy two years, tropical signs are now about twenty
four degrees ahead of where the constellations really are. So
this is why you're getting the main difference because of
that procession. So, and because constellations are not equal in size,

(17:24):
even the Lahiri style sideial still isn't fully accurate. True
sideurial fixes both problems. So we're gonna learn a little
bit more about this today, right. So the so how
the procession changed the sky? It says Earth Earth's axis
wobbles in a twenty five thousand, seven and seventy two

(17:46):
year cycle, so a full wobble instead of just one degree,
a full wobble every twenty five, seven hundred and seventy
two years. So that's whenever you get the full three
hundred and sixty I believe that would be the Okay.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Don't check me on that.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Shifting the equinoxes in relation to the constellations, tropical astrology
in quotes, froze the sky as it was in one
hundred and thirty BC, while sidereal continually updates. So trueideial
plus the midpoint method lets us track the drift precisely
instead of locking signs to the seasons or assuming equal

(18:23):
thirty degree divisions. It honors the real and living sky.
When you check your true ideial chart, you're seeing exactly
what you'd see if you stepped outside and looked up tonight.
So now we're going to get to the real degrees
of each constellation just so, just so you can kind
of get a good idea about how big and how
small each of the constellations are.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
And also the dates as well. Yeah, so the dates.
This I'll show you where the dates changed to okay,
So let's see so Ares. This is true ideial astrology.
The these dates on it. So Aries runs from April
twenty first to May eleventh. If your birthday falls in between, there,

(19:08):
you're in aries. The approximate size of Aries is twenty degrees,
so it's you know, regular, It's actually one of the
smaller ones, if.

Speaker 5 (19:19):
I'm looking at it correctly. Yeah, interesting, one of the
smaller ones. My wife definitely is in aries.

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Then whin's her birthday? I'll let her know. Confirmed April
twenty second, April, Yeah, she's in aries. Actually.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It's funny though, because it says, and we're gonna get
to it, but it says the way that he reads
it is that if your birthday falls within three days,
he considers you both of them.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
Oh okay, interesting, all right.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Right right, and mine falls within four days. So I'm
firmly in aries, I guess right. So Taurus runs from
May eleventh to June eighteenth, and uh, that approximate size
is third eight degrees, so that is the third the
fourth largest. Actually, Gemini runs from June eighteenth to July

(20:08):
nineteenth at thirty one degrees. Cancer runs from July nineteenth
to August sixth at seventeen degrees.

Speaker 3 (20:16):
It's one of the smaller ones.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Leo runs from August sixth to September fifteenth at thirty
nine degrees. Virgo is the biggest one. So Virgo runs
September fifteenth to November fourth at fifty degrees. Libre, yeah,
it's a bigin. Libra runs November fourth to November twenty
third at nineteen degrees.

Speaker 3 (20:39):
In the sky.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Scorpio is November twenty third to December sixth at thirteen degrees.
Ofucus is December sixth to December nineteenth at thirteen degrees wiser,
and Sagittarius runs from December nineteenth to January twenty first.
So see, you're on what is called the cusp luiso.

(21:04):
So I guess you're a bit of both, between O
Fucus and Sagittarius.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
And that's give or take three days, right.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Get well up to three days? Oh, up to three days, yeah,
I think.

Speaker 6 (21:15):
So.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Don't quote me on that, but I think that's what
I remember of it, so too. So O Fucus is
December sixth through December nineteenth at thirteen degrees. Sagittarius is
December nineteenth to January twenty first, it represents thirty three degrees.
Capricorn is January twenty first to February fifteenth at twenty

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five degrees in the sky, Aquarius is February fifteenth to
March ninth at twenty two degrees in the sky, and
Pisces is March ninth to April twenty first at forty
two degrees in the sky. That's a big and two
that's the second. The second biggest one is Pisces, which
actually is interesting because during the time of Jesus, if

(22:02):
if what true ideial astrology shows that during the time
of Jesus up until really recent as of the last
few years ago, they believe, well athen believes that we
have been in Pisces this entire time. It wasn't until
I believe either twenty twenty or twenty twenty two that
we started to shift into Aquarius according to true s

(22:23):
ideial astrology.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Wow, and how long does that go?

Speaker 5 (22:27):
As far as like Pisce's coming back, because maybe that's
what they meant all along, you know, Jesus coming back.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
So it actually goes in reverse.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
So typically our seasons the way it starts at the
spring equinox, right, So that would be ares the spring
equinox of April twenty first. Around that time, Pisces is
the last constellation. But the thing with the changing of
the times is that it runs backwards, so instead of

(22:57):
it going from Pisces to Aries, it actually goes from
Pisces to Aquarius, right, so it's going in reverse up
the chart.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
M hm okay, which is pretty interesting that for a
long time, you know, the age of Aquarius.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
So yeah, we're gonna be getting a little bit more
into that too. So it says, notice how Virgo is massive,
spanning nearly two months. So Virgo, what was that uh,
September fifteenth to November November fourth, so like was that
a little bit more than six weeks? So it spans
nearly two months, while Scorpio is tiny, which is only

(23:32):
thirteen days. So yeah, in that case, Scorpio people would be.

Speaker 3 (23:38):
Pretty rare, just fewer of them, right.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
Which is probably a good thing if we're probably or
something to This explains why so many people resonate with
Virgo or Scorpio energy differently than tropical astrology suggests. So
now we're going to get into the next part. So
we're going to understand the planets in truce ideal is
true sideial astrology, because it's one thing for somebody to

(24:04):
say that your uh, your moon is in fucking h
Virgo or whatever, But what does that even mean? What
do the planets even represent? This is something that I've
never personally understood, very minimal amounts, Like I know what
the sun sign means, maybe the moon sign, but that's
about it.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Yeah, we're gonna try tonight.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
We're gonna give it the old college try tonight, even
though I only went to college for about two weeks
and I dropped out.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, but look at me now, mom, I'll look at
me now. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
So understanding the planets and true sideial astrology planets, Okay,
remember these These are the three things that you need
to remember whenever you're trying to read your own chart.
Planets show us what is happening. Signs show us how
it's happening, and houses show us where it's happening. Oh wow, Okay,

(24:59):
we're gonna break that down a little bit more later,
just as a precursor. Yeah, So it says planets are
the actors, and in truceideial they're placed exactly where they
appear in the real night sky. So what does so
what they mean by the actor is that, like, what
role is this planet playing?

Speaker 3 (25:19):
What does it mean? You know what you know? Is
it is it giving the grinch?

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Like, is it giving the mask? If we're using Jim
Carrey kind of you know roles here. So the sun
represents purpose, vitality, and life essence. So whatever your son's
sign is, Sean, you're now a Capricorn?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 6 (25:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:40):
I believe so.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Yeah, but that's funny because I'm also as far as
what you were reading earlier on the fifteenth, because that's
my birthday. It's both of them, I'm on. Yeah, it
equates for both of.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Them, which makes sense. I think. Interesting. So find out,
you know, when we look into it, I'm really curious.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, we're gonna We're gonna find it all out. So
the sun represents purpose, vitality, and life essence. The moon
sign represents emotions, instincts, and subconscious m hm okay, oh
my god, Taylor, you said your birthday is May eighth.
We share a birthday. Shout out nice. What are the
odds one in three hundred and sixty five? I think unless.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
It was a leap yer.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
So anyhow, the in nineteen ninety we were born the
same exact day on the same exact year. What are
the odds in Lake Havasu No, get out of here.
If you said you were born in Lake Havasuit, that
would be hilariousou, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
So the she's gonna be like she's also wordy. Did
you know iron shirt? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, she has a servitor necklace made by Lord Byron Jester.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Yes, Marve.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Oh, Colorado's that's still pretty damn close. Colorado right next
to Arizona. That's not that far. So yeah. So the
sun and the moon. So the moon represents emotions, instincts,
and subconscious Mercury. So if your sign is in mercury,
that means that Mercury represents thought, speech, and logic.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Okay uh.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Venus represents love, beauty, and relationships. Yeah, that's why they
always say women are from Venus.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Mm hmm, because they do say that.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, they got the love and the beauty. Mars represents energy, aggression,
and passion.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Tracks.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Jupiter means expansion, teaching, and prosperity. Jupiter is always usually
usually a good thing. From what I understand, I don't.
That might have just been one of the dumbest things
anybody said. Jupiter is usually a good thing.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
So fine, it's good.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Hey, you don't know what's your dumbest thing we've ever said, though, sure, guaranteed, guaranteed.
Not No, there's no way that's always say we are
we are not the teachers here. We're just showing you
what we found.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
So Saturn represents discipline, karma, and limitation. Urinus, or as
some people may call it, Uranus would be rebellion, technology,
and awakening.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Hmmm interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Neptune is actually a pretty interesting one. It represents illusion, spirituality,
and imagination, all three of those groups together.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I like it. I'll take it. Give it to me.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, remind remind me to like really focus on that
Neptune one and.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
So real quick, just to verify, just make sure I'm
on track with what you're saying. This is when you
were born, as far as that planet that's lined up
with everything, or is it constantly evolving and you can
constantly check what planet you're feeding off of or or
or are you sure of what I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
It's it's only shifting one degree every seventy two years,
so in your entire lifetime.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
It's so it's basically throughout your whole life pretty much.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Ok.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Yeah, right, I mean maybe within a half a degree
getting crazy, but a half a degree is not going
to sway it one way or another.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
No, I'm glad this makes it easier for me, right right.

Speaker 2 (29:09):
Cool, Let's see, so, uh, Neptune is illusion, spirituality, and imagination,
and then you have Pluto finally, which would be transformation
and death, rebirth cycles, death and rebirth cycles.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
That's a heavy one. Yeah, man, nobody wants to talk
about that one. Science trying to get rid of it too.
So there's something to something to it. To quote Carl Sagan,
he said, the.

Speaker 2 (29:33):
Cosmos is within us, indeed, so let's pay attention to
the fucking stars then, you know, all right, nextly we're
gonna be talking about the luminaries and their importance. So
the sun is your conscious identity. So whatever your sun
sign is, that's obviously everybody knows. That's your main sign, right,

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the part of you that seeks recognition. So the moon
is your emotional core, your instinctual re actions, and your
private self the shadow. So if you will, all right,
all right, So with true sidereal placements. Your luminaries reflect
not a symbolic chart from two thousand years ago, but
the exact stars above your birthplace.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
This makes emotional and life direction readings more exact and visceral.

Speaker 5 (30:19):
He says, Hmmm, that's gonna be really cool to look at, dude.
I'm so excited to see like what it all means.
It's gonna be sick.

Speaker 2 (30:31):
And it's not to take away from tropical, I think
because Tropical, as it was saying, it's not necessarily based
upon the stars. It's based upon the seasons. So it
doesn't completely wipe away tropical all the way, and you
should never look into it ever. Again, I'm not saying that,
But what I am saying is is that if you're
trying to be exact as you possibly can, there is

(30:51):
no better way than true sideial.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
That's what I'm doing. I'm wiping away Tropical. That's just
me though, I am too. Yeah, onto the new Fuck
you Taurus. I still love you tours anyway, all right,
So this is you.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Ever hear when people say that that there was a conjunction,
or something is squared, or something's opposition or something is
trine or whatever, right, never understood what these meant up
until now. Okay, so what they mean when when they
say conjunction, that means that it's zero degrees apart.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
So if you have actually.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
We're going to give an example here, so that means
if something is conjunct, that means that the energies of
the planets are fused together. So, for an example, Mars
in conjunction with Venus in Taurus blends passion with sensuality.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Oh okay, so conjunction just.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Means they are completely fucking overlapped, all right, okay, kind
of like a eclipse, I believe. Then you have trine,
which is one hundred and twenty degrees apart, So which trying.
If somebody says that you know something is trying, it
means harmonious support. An example would mean moon your moon,
and cancer is trying. Neptune and Pisces would mean heightening intuition.

(32:13):
That seems like a lot. I promise you it's a
lot easier than you think it is, okay, and so
just we're gonna break it down a little bit more later.
So square would be ninety degrees apart, which would be
tension and challenge. I'm not gonna even give any more examples,
because I can already tell that people's heads are spinning
with that, and mine is too, actually mine, Yeah, So

(32:33):
just to go back, conjunct means zero degrees apart. Trying
means one hundred and twenty degrees apart. That would be
harmonious support. So they're supporting each other. The planets are.
Whenever they are square, which is ninety degrees apart, there's
tension and challenge. Square is not usually something you look
forward to because that's for squares, you know, So just

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remember it like that, like that's for squares, not you know,
not for me. I wanted to be trying or possibly conjunct.
And then there's opposition, which is one hundred and eighty
degrees apart. It makes sense opposition opposite end of the pole, right, Okay,
So if it's in opposition, that means polar polarized energies
that are seeking balance. So let's go a little bit farther.

(33:21):
The more I say, the more easy it becomes to understand.
I tried to make it as simple as I possibly
could in my own terms. So I'm somebody I need
to read something like one hundred times to understand it,
and so this is me trying to break it down
one hundred times in the best, in the easiest possible way, right,

(33:42):
all right, So then you get to retrogrades.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Everybody's always worried about retrograde, right, Yeah, I don't even
know what I'm worried about, dude, but I'm a little
worried now, I know.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I know.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
So retrogrades it's actually an optical illusion because the planets
are not in retrograde. Actually it just looks like they are.
So retrogrades are are when a planet appears to move
backward due to the Earth's orbit. They encourage review, rethinking,
and integration. So in truce sidereal retrograde cycles match the

(34:17):
actual observable sky, giving more precision in timing and timing
lessons of reflection. So which that's a good thing. You
would want to know whenever you know mercury is going
to retrograde or something like that, exactly to the day.
So maybe you don't, I don't know, Maybe you don't
get on a plane whenever mercury is in retrograde or
whatever you may be worried about, you know.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
And I wonder if that goes along with what we've
covered before as far as the red shift blue shift.
You know, if if the planet is moving away from you,
then the wavelengths of the light would be kind of
stretched out right and they'd be longer.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's dude, it's funny you brought
that up. I was just hearing somebody else talk about
that earlier that. But yeah, whenever, the so, if you
have like an angel or an alien or something like that,
and they're trying to come down to meet you on
your level, meaning they have to lower their vibration, they
have to redshift right, redshift, yeah, and we have to blueshift, yeah,

(35:11):
to go up in vibration. It's complicated, but it makes sense.
So yeah, that's retrogrades being the optical illusion. They're not
actually moving backward.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
It just seems that way.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Okay, all right, Um, to quote Marcus Aurelius, he said,
the obstacle is the way.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Don't avoid it, don't jump over it. It is the way.
Embrace it. Yeah, embrace it.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
What I love about Sideia is that it also includes
Rahu and Ketu. These are the north node and the
South node, so and what they represent is actually the
head of the dragon and the tail of the dragon,
which I thought was pretty interesting because Sean, you literally
just asked me this earlier, and I couldn't wait to

(35:57):
tell you about this. You asked me what I thought
about the what was it the nodes?

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Right?

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well, no, you asked me about what do you believe
as far as a third of the angels a third
of the stars getting swept out of the sky?

Speaker 5 (36:12):
Like what is that like symbolically if you were to
look at it that way, and.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
We're going to do a whole show on it.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
But I thought that this was interesting because it was
swept out of the sky like a tail, right, something
like that. But if you look over here you have
Oh go ahead, Nick, what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
If I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 8 (36:31):
That whole verse in general about like Satan taking a
third of the angels or whatever.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
It doesn't even say angels, it says.

Speaker 8 (36:41):
Stars, right I believe, so yeah, yeah, so essentially stars
in that sense are equated to angels. But like literally
the verse says that the a third of the stars
were taken out of the heavens, and then you have
to assume or imply the context, right, what it's what

(37:07):
you're supposed to think that it means based on what
it is, you know, implying that the stars represent angels,
or you could even go as too far as to
say that stars are.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Angels at that point, you know what I mean?

Speaker 8 (37:20):
So if a third of them were you know, taken
by Satan or whatever, or Lucifer or whatever, but just
that that fact alone is just interesting to think about.
You know, if if the if stars are angels, then
you know, where does that?

Speaker 3 (37:35):
What does that mean? You know, where do the third
of them go?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (37:39):
That, but you know, how we look at stars in
general is if you want to apply that to them,
it should also give some I don't know, second thought
to I guess.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
And there's there's a lot of different interpretations of that
throughout all the different mythologies that kind of are saying
a little bit about the same thing. I actually, uh
started working on that show because Shan asked me about it,
and I was like, dude, that sounds like an awesome show,
but we already had one put together for tonight. I'm
just obsessed with researching this shit, so I just went
balls deep on it, and uh, from what I can tell,

(38:12):
almost every mythology talks about that situation, okay, which is interesting, right,
does nothing new under the sun, as they say, no, dude,
So getting back over to the lunar nodes. So these
are the lunar nodes. Rahu and Ketu are a h

(38:33):
U and Ketu which is k e t u. So Rahu,
which is the north node, uh is the head of
the dragon, symbolizing desire, ambition, and karmic direction, always hungry
and never satisfied. So whenever we do one of the
one of the readings later after the show, before the meditation,

(38:54):
you're you're gonna find out what all of your you know,
all of your planets and all your zone dacts are
and stuff like that. But it's also going to include
where Rahu is and where your Ketu is.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Interesting.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
Interesting, I wonder if that's like representative of a black hole,
you know what I mean, it's always hungry, just kind
of eating everything up.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Sounds like it. Oh, yeah, sounds like it. And then
of course there is Ketu, which is the south node.
It says Ketu is the tale of the dragon, symbolizing
past life mastery and detachment, blind to the material, seeking liberation.
So basically the exact opposite of the north node, right,

(39:37):
but they both symbolize something.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
It's the dragon, the head and the tail.

Speaker 5 (39:41):
So as far as we know, real quick, not to
cut you off, are these things that we can actually
see observe in the sky or are they more etheric?

Speaker 2 (39:49):
I'm actually not sure. It depends on who you ask,
But I've heard it mentioned that the So if you
talk about like the eclipses and stuff like that, some
people believe that, you know, the Sun isn't going in
front of the Earth to shadow the moon or whatever
is going on during a lunar.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
Or solar eclipse.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
They believe, and this is actually a crow. Triple seven
brings this up. He believes that an eclipse is not
an eclipse by the three planets that we're talking about
with the Sun, Moon, and the Earth. He believes that
it's actually the nodes that are playing a role as
for shadowing the Sun or shadowing the moon.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Oh okay, interesting, all right.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
It's a fun way of looking at it. I don't
know if it's I don't know if it's for real
or not. That's just a theory that I heard. Okay,
all right, So together with Rahu and Ketu. They form
the karmic axis, your soul's history which is Ketu, and
the destiny which is Rahu.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Oh, the history.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
That's why I was talking about your past life meaning Ketu,
and then your destiny what's to come, which makes sense
because that would be Rahu. That's the head of the drea.
It doesn't know yet, it hasn't been there, so it's
the destiny, right, Okay. So true sideial pinpoints their real positions,
giving sharper insights into life missions. And to quote Aristotle,

(41:12):
he said, knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely know thyself. That's what they say to.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
All right, And so as for the twelve houses in
truth sideial astrology, you have houses one through twelve. Remember
what we were saying as to what the houses meant.
So a house shows you where it's happening, okay, okay, right,
So the houses in truth truth sideial astrology, each house

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governs a realm of life.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
So the first house, if you have something in the
first house, and you'll see this within astrology that you
know you have so and so in the third house
or whatever. Right, maybe you have Jupiter in the in
the fifth house or something like that. So then you
would take the meaning of what Jupiter means and then
combine it with what the house means. Right, okay, all right,

(42:07):
So each house governs a realm of life.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
So the first house would be of.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
These are actually pretty interesting. So the first house represents
self and appearance, second house is money and values, The
third house is communication and siblings. The fourth house is
home and roots. The fifth house is creativity and children.
The sixth house is work and health. The seventh house

(42:33):
is partnerships. The eighth house is sex and transformation, let's see,
the ninth house is philosophy and travel. The tenth house
is career and reputation. The eleventh house is community and goals.
And then finally the twelfth house, uh is spirituality and

(42:55):
hidden matters.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
M makes sense.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
So and we're going to go back whenever we we
actually do our charts, that'll be something that we go
back to. So we know, you know what houses is,
what you know, a little cheat sheet.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
You know, anybody's ever talked about the whole house thing
and all that. I'm like, I kind of check out.
I feel like it starts to get too confusing, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Yeah, I mean that's the same thing. Even with Tara.
We've been working for over two years and we don't
remember what each card means.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 5 (43:25):
Some people look really good at it, though, Man, dude,
you know what I mean. They just look at a
card they're like, oh uh, like they know something. I'm like,
tell me what, because I have no idea.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
I actually bought one of those decks that has like
it's like a cheat sheet on the deck, so it'll
tell you like on the card, and so it'll tell
you like, oh, this is the sun card. This is
what it means right side up, this is what it
means reversed right. It's pretty cool. So, and and what
I've been trying to do to try and understand Taro
even more is I'll actually do several readings a day,

(43:56):
except for you know, I let's say I don't know,
how's my day, gonna go give me a one card? Right,
or you know, how's my week, gonna go give me
another card?

Speaker 3 (44:08):
How's my year?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Gonna go give me another card or whatever, And you
can get real crazy with it and usually pinpoint accurate, bro,
Like it's spooky how accurate? Yeah, dude, that's because we're communicating.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
With the devil, that's right, yeah, you know, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
Boy not communicating with the devil. For anybody that didn't
see my face on you know.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Yeah, so fingers crossed, I.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Don't think so pretty sure. I'm not never got that feeling.
So yeah, that would be what the twelve houses in
true side aial astrology mean. So order uh, to quote
Alexander Pope, he said, order is Heaven's first law.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
M okay, all right.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
So the cultural roots vedic astrology versus it is true
sideial astrology. So vedic astrology uses to kind of go
over what we were talking about a little bit more earlier.
So it uses sideial but divides into thirty degree equal
slices predictive, karma focused, and deeply spiritual. So there's nothing

(45:16):
wrong with tropical or vedic astrology or anything like that.
It's just different interpretations of what the stars are actually
showing you. Then there's true sidereal astrology using midpoint. It
uses the actual constellation size, it updates the boundaries, and
its planetarium verified. So a system revived and modernized by

(45:36):
ath and commenting. So shout out to him again. I
do want to get him on the show. We are
definitely going to make that happen.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Yeah, we got to you.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
I kind of I really dig the sidereal already just
because of how tangible it is and like you know,
in real time it is.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah, I really like that. Yeah, it's really neat. It
is really what.

Speaker 5 (45:56):
It's called the sky, the skyclock. You know, let's let
it be a good one, right, I mean you would
hear it one.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
You would want your clock to be accurate, you know.
So both of them, between vedic and truce ideial, both
honor the real sky. But truthideial gives us the exact
star map, unfiltered by equal deficient by equal divisions. So
now we're going to get into the why truth ideial
is the real sky map. True ideial astrology reconciles mysticism

(46:26):
and science. It doesn't ask us to abandon myth, only
to place myth back into the sky as it truly is.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
If you think about it, the people.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
That created tropical astrology back in one hundred and thirty BC,
technically they're using truth ideial at that moment, if you
really think about it.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
At that time, that's what we have now. Only back
then it was true to them sifted then it was
true to them, and I guarantee you well minus the degrees,
right because they were they treating them equally? Or was
it based on how long they were.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
In the sky? Oh good point, Yeah, good point.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
So maybe like they were almost there, they were close, right,
they almost had it.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
Yeah, well we'll give We'll give the printed for that though,
give you.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
A couple you know, so to do the system represents
this system as far as true sideial. It represents the
middle path, satisfying the soul's need for archetype and the
mind's demand for accuracy. So this is where I've been
trying to go, or we've been trying to go here
a lot lately, especially we since we've done like the

(47:32):
Gateway tapes with the hemi sinking and you know, the
left and the right brain getting them to work together
and not just solely focusing on one.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
This, uh, I believe and what many.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Other people believe as well that are into this ideial astrology,
that it kind of is a sinking of the two
hemispheres because it allows you to play in that spiritual
field with accurate information.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah, and ever since then, you know, and like I said,
I can't for sure know that it was before or
after Mushrooms or after the Hemi Sync. But after that, dude,
I've been having a lot of mystical type experiences, you know,
So I think the Hemi Sync definitely had a big
role in that.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Oh dude, yeah, it's I think that it has. And
you know what, It's been a little minute since we've
done that. I'm not saying we're gonna do that tonight,
but because there's a little long yeah, let's take it
out of you, but one of these nights we're gonna
get back into it, because pretty profound.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
Shit goes on there. And oh yeah, definitely.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
All right, So there are, uh, there are actual case
studies that were done on this. So the interesting thing
about astrology in general is that according to the way
that you believe, whether you're using tropical sideia or vedic
or whatever whatever you're doing, you can actually plug it
up into a computer, you can draw it out whatever

(48:49):
you want to do, and you can go back or
forward as much as you want. Right, So, if you want,
you can go back and you can check, all right,
if Sideia is the true one, then and it should
have given us signs as to what was to come,
and that would be our way to best prove it
in a sense. Right now, what's interesting is is that

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all three of them prove it in their own way.

Speaker 3 (49:14):
Right How is that possible?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
You know?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Because well, one season's another one is more spiritually, because yeah,
it divides it up. So as for the Vedic ones,
that's what I will say what I read earlier, the
Vedic ones. The Vedic astrology, it uses twelve or thirteen constellations.
It depends on which you know people you ask technically,

(49:39):
but it's cut up into twenty eight or twenty nine divisions,
so it gets real fractalized over there, whereas this one
is just cut up into thirteen. So it's not to
say that ones one hundred percent better. It's just about
you know, whatever your flavor is. But there are ways
of being able to to almost predict or dare I say,

(50:03):
prophesies about what is to come based upon the charts,
and as as they say, the millionaires don't use astrology,
the billionaires.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
Do, yeh, dude, And you know what I was thinking of.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
I understand that the you know, astrology is usually for
when you were born and for you specifically. But I'm
sure you can look into these types of things for
like major events. You talk about going backward in time,
you know, look and see what what was the what
was going on in the cosmos when like nine to
eleven happened, or like certain things like that, And I
wonder if there's some sort of correlation.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
I feel like there just has to.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Be oh yeah, yeah and there. And we actually have
a couple of instances that we're going to get to.
Some of them say you're about to dip out their
nick Hi, buddy love.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Ry nick love me, mad guy, you have a good night.
Pease see you man.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
But yeah, it has been used to predict certain things.
And look, if you can prove it using the signs,
then you should be able to know what's to come.
In a sense, not exactly. You're not gonna be able
to predict exactly what's going to happen, where it's going
to happen, but you might be able to figure out
what's sector. You might be able to figure out possibly

(51:16):
to who or whatever you're gonna narrow it down, you know,
and if you're really good at reading the political landscape
or the sport landscape or whatever it is that you're
trying to get to then you know, maybe you can
narrow it down even more.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Right, right, and you can't even say that, you know,
like if you want to get biblical about it or whatever,
I feel like astrology, I mean, you're not communicating with
demons at that point. You're literally using the creation itself,
you know what I mean. If you're trying to call
out things that might happen in the future. Right, it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
So and what's really cool is too, is that you
can actually, for example, if you wanted to try and
figure out a Super Bowl winner. Right, usually there's two
teams in the Super Bowl every year, and if you
were able to really figure out how to use sideial
astrology and you were able to take I don't know,

(52:13):
so last year it was the Chiefs versus the Eagles.
Right in the Super Bowl, you had Jalen Hurts versus
Patrick Mahomes. You had the head coaches, Nick Sirianni versus
Andy Reid. And if you were to do their sideial chart,
if you were able to somehow find it online somewhere
and try and see does the sidereal chart match up

(52:35):
with what is going on in the sky today in
that city where they're playing that Super Bowl at you
might be able to come pretty damn close.

Speaker 5 (52:43):
Isn't there somebody that does that too? I think you
were telling me about somebody like that. That's like usually
always right for the most part.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, Yeah, there's a couple of people actually, and they
make a lot of money doing it. Might not have
to throw a couple of shams on the Super Bowl
this year.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
You know, give it a shot.

Speaker 7 (53:01):
Dude.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Ohy not? You know what's twenty bucks?

Speaker 6 (53:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
So, so I yeah, I want to bring up a
couple of things that was pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Oh where was I? Okay?

Speaker 2 (53:16):
So the age of Pisces in the transition to the
Age of Aquarius. This is how they were able to
break it down using truth sidereal. So in tropical astrology
many say that we're already deep in the age of Aquarius,
but tru sidereal shows that we're just entering Aquarius now
since Pisces is such a large constellation. So see because

(53:40):
in in tropical astrology, Pisces is thirty degrees whereas what
was it? But in in uh true sidereal it's forty
two degrees.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Right, So if you're just.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Going about it by that, you have twelve more fucking
degrees you got to get through, you know, because you're
not just limited to thirty. So that would say that
we're just now entering Aquarius. So the timing perfectly matches
the real world shift. A lot more people are getting
into this spiritual stuff, right, which would be which? And

(54:19):
it depends on.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Who you ask.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
This is a very you know, contradicting thing that I'm
about to say, and maybe divisive or whatever, but I
mean I can see kind of the landscape and maybe
I might just be a little bit biased.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
Here because we do this show, maybe a little bit.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
But so I believe what's going on is is that
more and more people are becoming involved and more open
minded with spirituality, and more and more people are kind
of not into church as much anymore, or not into
the rigorous church world as much as they once were.

Speaker 5 (54:59):
Oh yeah, so sure that's going on, dude. And you
know what with the the age of information too, you know,
I mean, if that's the time that we're in, it
definitely feels like it with you know, everybody sharing their
their stories and the countless podcasts and you know, just
the Internet in general is just like more than it's ever.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Been, Oh dude, And and because there's so many you know, right,
because there's so many things that are going on that
you don't know where to compartmentalize it. If you're religious, right,
how do you compartmentalize aliens? How do you compartmentalize AI?
How do you compartmentalize I mean apparently compartmentalized space, compartmentalized

(55:41):
near death experiences, compartmentalized psychedelic experiences. You know what I'm saying, Like,
there's way compartmentalize fucking coincidences or synchronicities. Like where does
that factor into your religion? Good luck, You're not gonna
find it, you know, because they don't talk about it,
at least not in depth, I don't think. But anyhow,

(56:03):
So this timing, as far as us entering Aquarius now
as opposed to years back, matches the real words, real
world shift. So the rise of global technology, which would
make sense in Aquarius AI, collective movements, decentralization, crypto internet,

(56:24):
and questioning of authority, which are all very aquarian themes.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yep, exactly what we were just talking about, dude.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Yes, it also explains why the New Age explosion over
the last few decades felt more transitional than full blown Aquarius.
It was the tail end of Pisces, which Pisces represents faith, spirituality,
and devotion. So you're starting to see a shift from that,
not by everybody. It's going to be a slow thing,

(56:54):
and it doesn't even mean that everybody's going to do it.
You know, even during the times of biblical times, not
everybody was a Christian or religious at all. Right, right,
some of them were taken out. You know, think of
the pagans and the witches and the well were we
damn what are they called from Ireland? We just had
a show on them. Oh, the druids, the druids and

(57:14):
all them, right, like you had people that were going
against the grain got taken out for it. But that's
neither here nor there. So it doesn't mean that everybody's
gonna step in line. It just means that there's gonna
be quite a sizable transition to that stage.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (57:31):
So yeah, time for people to start asking questions, you
know what I mean, instead of looking past certain things
that don't or that totally contradict their entire belief system.
It's like you're gonna start asking these questions instead of
just trying purposely looking through that or looking past it.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I mean we're not judging anybody who's religious by
any means. We're just saying that, you know, it's the
path that we're on is kind of a path that
you know, you kind of I don't know how to
say it. You're on your own path of discovery, like
the fool's journey in a sense. So nextly you would

(58:10):
have the oh, this is interesting. So the twenty twenty
Saturn Pluto conjunction was actually in Capricorn, not in Aquarius,
I believe. So in January of twenty twenty, Saturn in
Pluto conjoined. So tropical astrologers said that this was in Aquarius,
predicting humanitarian reform. They thought that was gonna happen in

(58:32):
twenty twenty. However, tru Sideial placed it in Capricorn in
what happened, So in twenty twenty, everybody remembers what happened
in twenty twenty, COVID and all that bullshit, right, So
it placed it in Capricorn. In what happened, the world
faced governmental lockdowns, authoritarian lockdowns, government control restrictions, corporate restructuring,

(58:55):
and global order shifts. These are pure Capricorn themes of authority, structure,
and discipline. Hotly, shit, I had no idea makes sense
when you put it in that sense, right, So it
says this was a clear hit for True Sideial over Tropical.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Yeah, it's pretty big thing, you know, let's say, so,
oh yeah, it's pretty clear.

Speaker 2 (59:17):
Then in twenty twenty two you had the US Pluto return.
So Tropical astrology had Pluto returning to America's chart in Capricorn,
emphasizing politics and authority. So True Sideial so that was
Tropical astrology had Pluto returning to America's chart in Capricorn.
Truth Idereal placed Pluto in Sagittarius, highlighting deep transformation around

(59:42):
belief systems, religion, philosophy, and truth seeking. So in twenty
twenty two, technically I believe is when they say that
we entered Aquarius.

Speaker 5 (59:53):
That makes sense for me. That's exactly like when I
had my awakening. Man, that was like that time period
right in there. It's like, nothing makes sense, what is this?
What's going on? Investigate? Yeah yeah, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Yeah, sh so that would be so that would be
Pluto in Sagittarius. So what's been happening? Massive debates around
truth versus information, collapse of religious trust, culture wars about
morality and philosophy. This is Sagittarius themes to the core.
It says, holy shit, pretty cool when you break it

(01:00:28):
down like that, though, right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
I kind of had a feeling there was gonna be
some things that we could look at in that way
and go, oh okay.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
Chackal is on some shit. Yeah, yeah, there's a couple more.
There's a couple more. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Then there is the Virgo season versus Leo season misalignment.
So it says every year, many people who feel like
Virgos in real life, whether they're analytical, detail oriented, health focused,
or humble, are called Leos in tropical astrology. So they
they go their whole life thinking that they're Leos and
they're like, I mean, Virgo kind of makes a little

(01:01:02):
bit more sense, right, and more analytical, more detail oriented whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
True ideial fixes this since the sun is actually in
Virgo longer than Leo because Virgo is the biggest one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:13):
Yep, holy shit.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
So this explains why so many who never resonated with
their Leo son sign suddenly align when they discover true
idereal uh, they were actually born under virgo.

Speaker 5 (01:01:27):
Holy shit, imagine that Leo's out there going, ah, I
see yeah, yeah, Well, because you know they say that
Leo's are typically like they want to flaunt and they're like,
look at me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
And the only reason I even really know that is
because Jacob's a fucking Leo, and I'm like, yeah, I mean,
I love Jacob, don't get me wrong, but my God,
does he love himself a lot. I mean, nothing wrong
with loving yourself for him.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
Man, good for him, Good for him? Yeah, exactly, I.

Speaker 5 (01:01:58):
Need a little more self love myself personally. Oh well,
we're going to figure you out here in a minute, sir.
Don't worry about that, I hope. So I've been waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
So in twenty twenty three, Jupiter was in Pisces, not
in Aries, so this would be another way to prove
sideial over tropical. So tropical astrologers placed Jupiter in aries
in twenty twenty three, predicting fiery new beginnings and aggressive expansion.
True sidereal showed Jupiter still in Pisces for most of

(01:02:30):
that year, and instead we saw explosions of spirituality, psychedelics,
dream research, ai imagination tools. Major cultural focuses on escapism fantasy, drugs,
and collective spirituality. These are all Pisces hallmarks, proving true
sideial lined up more cleanly with reality at that moment.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
Nice love it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
So twenty twenty three that was That might have been
the first year I tried for now that I think
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
Mmm.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
So it checks the box of the psychedelics then for
me anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah, m so.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
So to recap true Sidario astrology got it right with
the age of Aquarius, timing the twenty twenty Saturn Pluto
and Capricorn of authority control with COVID the US Pluto
return in Sagittarius as far as the belief wars Go
Virgo versus Leo season being accurate, Um, you know, the

(01:03:30):
people that thought that they were in Leo were actually
Virgos and so on. And then Jupiter and Pisces with
the twenty twenty three spiritual and fantasy boom right, which
actually makes sense. In twenty twenty three, the Jupiter was
in Pisces with a spiritual boom bro the show was

(01:03:50):
created in twenty twenty three, it was right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
Damn, holy shit. Yeah, meta mysteries man.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Dude, right, I'm just saying it is. Man, it's just
so cool whenever you check it out that way. And
I got a bunch of more you know, examples and
everything that we're going to get to.

Speaker 5 (01:04:11):
So but funny too, the whole story with that, as
far as like this wasn't even going to be a
spiritual podcast or you know, anything philosophical.

Speaker 3 (01:04:18):
Or anything like that, and it just just happened that way. Yeah,
it's just how it was.

Speaker 5 (01:04:23):
It's like, this is what it's going to be because
the Cosmo says, so you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Know, yeah, and so you know, whenever you look at
it through this lens, the stars actually have way more
meaning at this point, right, because now you're looking at
the stars as they shine on your location with your
birthday wherever you are, you know what I mean, and
each star or you know, uh, planet, sun, moon, node, whatever,

(01:04:48):
they all represent something. And so if you just go
outside you look up at night and you're like, oh,
it looks like you know whatever, then you know you
don't you don't necessarily need to go to an astrologer.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
You can just look up it's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Right, ye.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Or you can use like one of those tangible in
that man you can look you can use like one
of those constellation apps too, like it mentioned earlier. I
have one what is it called let Me See sky
Guide is the one that I have where it just
basically shows you like a like a blueprint overlay of
the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
And you just move your phone around. Right, It's like,
how cool is that?

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
I love it? So fun.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
All right, So we told you a little bit about
the past.

Speaker 3 (01:05:28):
Let's let's look forward.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
To the future and see if we can guess things
moving forward. Okay, okay, so true side Aerial Forest Tracker
from twenty twenty five to twenty thirty, just five for
the next five years. Let's see what it looks like
so we can see how the actual sky placements could
play out in real world themes. So here we go

(01:05:50):
in twenty twenty five. It doesn't say what month, but
just says overall, in twenty twenty five, there's gonna be
Saturn and Neptune in a queer So in truce idereal
both Saturn and Neptune move into Aquarius. The themes would
be so Saturn equals structure, authority, and discipline. Neptune equals illusions, spirituality,

(01:06:14):
confusions or confusion, and idealism. So together in Aquarius because
we're in Aquarius now.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Right, yeah, uh together, in.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Aquarius, it would be confusion around technology, AI, collective movements,
internet freedom, and utopian visions. Holy shit, expected debates. Expect
debates on whether AI is salvation or deception, clashes over
online freedoms, and a restructuring of collective ideals. You're already

(01:06:47):
kind of right there, dude, We're in twenty twenty five.
It makes sense. Yeah, yeah, but so okay, that's just
twenty twenty five. We're already seeing that. Not that crazy, right,
Let's check out twenty twenty fucking six.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
Then all right, let's do it. Okay, let's go there.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
So Pluto in twenty twenty six enters Capricorn. So in
truce sidereal, Pluto finally moves from Sagittarius to Capricorn. So
the themes would be global institutions, corporations and governments face
massive transformations.

Speaker 3 (01:07:19):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know if I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
There are possible financial resets, restructuring of global power and
authority being challenged and reborn.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
So it says tropical says.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Tropical astrology says that this happens in Aquarius, but the
Capricorn placement better matches the intensity of governmental and corporate
upheaval that we're already seeing hints of.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Yeah, I saw something recently and it was talking about
our currency, and you know that just basically.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
The value of the dollar bill and how.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
That's kind of been like the universal currency, and it's
just the value of it is just dropped so bad
that it's.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Getting kind of scary.

Speaker 5 (01:08:01):
Like it's almost like when it was talking about resetting,
you know, it's like, oh, we're gonna have to come
up with some other type of payment or something like that,
because a dollar bill just isn't gonna be worth anything.

Speaker 1 (01:08:11):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Literally, the dollar bill it used to be backed by
gold back, you know, back in the day, and now
it's literally back by debt. So it's back by less
than nothing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Is what it means.

Speaker 5 (01:08:23):
Yeah, and we'll never be able to pay that debt,
you know. And that's the way that money is created
by people getting loans and creating that money that then
we already don't have the money to cover that, and
then there's interest on top of that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
So it's it's just that's I feel like it should
have failed already.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
It should have and anybody that's interested in looking a
little bit deeper into that, Go check out fractional reserve banking.
You want to talk about how we got into that
much debt? That's how they fucking did it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I don't even know if I want to see that.

Speaker 6 (01:08:54):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
Oh dude, it's like already they're cheating, is what it is.
It's they're cheating and monopoly is what they're doing. So
but anyway, I talk about that shit enough on the
cultum So Yeah, So in twenty twenty six, could have
a lot of governmental in corporate upheaval. Yeah, global power

(01:09:15):
being restructured, possible financial resets, authority being challenged and reborn.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
Okay, it's gonna get weird, dude. I mean I'm here
for it quick. I mean, I'm here for all the fi.
I mean, got no choice, you know what I mean,
Let's just hold on and hope for the best. I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
I mean, I'm all about drama as long as it
ain't mine, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yeah, I guess that's gonna it's gonna be yours. You
know I'm gonna be talking about it.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
So, I mean, why it's gonna work out in your
in your favorite no matter what I think.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
You know, what with that positive mindset. I think you're right, sir,
like it, like it. So how about in twenty twenty
seven though, So in twenty twenty seven, Urinus, the planet
of rebellion and innovation, enters aries, so the teams would
be radical revolutions and identity, independence, warfare, and pioneering technology.

(01:10:08):
Oh so it said it could mark breakthroughs in space exploration, biohacking,
or personal sovereignty movements. So Tropical would place this in
Taurus predicting, finance and Earth themes. But Aris is about
raw initiation and rebellion, so I don't like the warfare
part of that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
In twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 5 (01:10:29):
No, But for some reason, when you say that and
you talk about expanding like to space, like I just
I think China, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
I think China's gonna go to the Moon. They're gonna
take over.

Speaker 5 (01:10:39):
They're gonna just put start putting things up there, you know,
and it's like this is our moon now, you know,
probably what do you what do you do?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Dude? I'm pretty sure China put up like their own son.
It's crazy. Yeah, Like straight up, they put up like
a fucking fake sun, which is wow.

Speaker 3 (01:10:58):
It's pretty impressive, actually, think. Yeah, I'm not even mad
at that it's in present.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I mean, I don't know if it's so many billions
or whatever miles away, but.

Speaker 5 (01:11:07):
At that, but yeah, they did something to that effect.

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
In twenty twenty eight, you'll have Jupiter and Saturn both
in Pisces. So this is gonna be a big conjunction
of Jupiter and Saturn in Pisces. The themes would be
major restructuring. Oh, major restructuring of spirituality, religion, media, and

(01:11:32):
collective dreams.

Speaker 5 (01:11:34):
Wow, I mean we're becoming telepathic, dude. I think that's
what's gonna That's what's gonna happen. Come on twenty maybe
a whole nother world where everybody just kind of hangs
out in the dream world.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Oh shit, I can't wait until twenty twenty eight. Okay,
if it's absolutely gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
So also in twenty twenty eight, you're gonna have rise
of new spiritual movements, uh huh, deeper exploration of akadelics,
dream research, and mass illusions or collective awakenings. So over
that a lot of shit's going down in twenty twenty eight.
It says this Echoes ancient great conjunction vibes but plays

(01:12:15):
out in Pisces's mystical waters.

Speaker 5 (01:12:18):
So shit, and I don't know about you guys, but
I feel like I've been having a lot of dreams lately,
like every single night, like all night, and it could
be like three or four different ones kind of mashed together.
So I don't know, man, pretty much going on, Yeah, pretty,
it's begun.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
It's begun already, I think.

Speaker 6 (01:12:35):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Then in twenty thirty, this is the final year that
we're going to talk about as far as the future.
In twenty thirty, Neptune enters Pisces. So in truce iideial,
this is all in truth ideial. So in truth ideial,
Neptune shifts fully into Pisces. So the themes would be
a cultural flood of mysticism, fantasy, escapism, and resolving boundaries.

(01:13:01):
It could spark both a spiritual renaissance and a wave
of delusion slash false prophets as well.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Of course, of course, because always something like that, you
know what has to be Bigot's be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
It says that this would be a big time year
for the arts, film and virtual realities, blurring what's real.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
And what's a dream? Whoa, Yeah, that makes sense wild
all right.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
So just to summarize that, twenty twenty five would be
confusion around AI and tech utopias. Twenty twenty six would
be a collapse in rebirth of governments and corporations. I'm
interested to see what the fuck that's going to look like.

Speaker 3 (01:13:46):
That one makes me the most nervous though out of
all of them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
Hopefully they just leave podcasting alone, you know, just leave
us alone, don't come after us.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
In twenty twenty seven you would have radical independence and
pioneering revolutions. Twenty twenty eight you would have restructuring of religion, spirituality,
and collective imagination. You know what that tells me whenever
we see something like that, a restructuring of all three
of imagination, spirituality.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
And religion. Mhm, that seems like aliens. Oh yeah, twenty
twenty eight you have no choice, man.

Speaker 5 (01:14:22):
When they start showing up, it's like you gotta start,
you know, refiguring out what's really going on, what you
believe and does it hold up anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Oh dude, they come down here and they're like, you know,
this is all a fucking illusion, right, Like stop taking
your seats so serious, you know, like you're in a dream.

Speaker 3 (01:14:40):
Wake up. I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
That would be fun if they did it, though, No, no, no,
it what up, Nora?

Speaker 6 (01:14:48):
He is, it's go make a quick come. Didn't the
shar say that we would have first contact, like first
public contact? How about that time?

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
I believe so, either twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight.
It was somewhere in that general area.

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
If you listen to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Chris Bledsoe, he actually predicted that it would be Easter
of twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (01:15:12):
Oh so yeah, bring it. I mean, yeah, let's see
what that's about.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Look, I will, I will happily bring in an alien
to come stay in my house. Just I mean, you're
probably interdimensional anyway. Do you really do you even need
to sleep?

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
They don't even need that much space or they don't
consume anything, you know, nothing that you have to offer anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
I mean they're.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Bending you know, space and time and light and you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Know, spoons and everything. Everything's getting bent.

Speaker 2 (01:15:46):
Yeah, not their egos, though, I don't think maybe it is.
So just to get back over the chat here for
a second, Mamu Slaney said, so Apparently I'm a Gemini,
not a cancer.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
July sixth. There you go, now you know? Now you know?

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Nora said, apparently my true whole zodiac chart shows that
I'm a cancer. Have three other houses in cancer and
three other houses in Leo. So my chart said, I'm
literally an emotional bitch. Does it check out? Though, I'm
just curious.

Speaker 5 (01:16:19):
Does it check out? Its accurate? That's hey, at least
you're honest, you know. Uh, let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Nick said, I was just looking up my sidereal stuff.
Turns out that I was born on almost exactly same
latitude line as the Pyramids. Thought that that was cool.
Oh wow, m I mean, if anybody it's Nick, you know, of.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Course I wouldn't. I wouldn't expect any less. At this point.
Nick's a fucking alien, bro. Let's just face the facts here.

Speaker 5 (01:16:53):
Yeah, dude, I've been trying not to say anything, but
I think you're right.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
I mean, they're here's yeah, he's here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
We're having we're having conversations with them already, dude.

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Just we are, Nick, we come from. Nick Knack.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Rit said, isn't the paramount movie mountains? Uh? Supposed to
be the Mountain Range the fallen angels fell, and they
put stars above the mountains. I saw that as a conspiracy.
I started doing a little bit more research into it.
I think that I think it's onto something. It does
check out in a sense. I mean, it depends on
where you're getting it from and what lens you're looking

(01:17:33):
at it from. Because if you're looking at it through
Jewish mysticism with the Kabbalah, which a lot of people
believe that, you know, the Jews run Hollywood, so that
would kind of make sense to me. You know, no
hate against the Jews. They're powerful, so you know, good
on y'all. But yeah, I think that it all depends

(01:17:54):
and I don't know, dude, I don't know exactly how
strict they are as far as like dokabbalist only practice
the kabbala or are they also allowed to dip into
other things too, you know, you're allowed to get I guess.

Speaker 5 (01:18:11):
It really depends on their level of awareness, dude, you know,
because as we've come to learn, there's a lot of
things that tend to work, you know, and becoming an
eclectic actually kind of works out to your advantage.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
I think, you know, yeah, I mean you would think,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
It also probably depends on you know what gods you
believe you're worshiping and weird stuff like that. I just
saw this video earlier. This guy he went to go
he went to go meet a record producer or something
like that. He's a rapper, Lil something, I can't remember
what his name is. He went to go meet this

(01:18:50):
producer at the top of a specific mountain, I can't
remember which one, but he went all the way to
the top in like a McLaren something, super nice.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
He got all the way.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Up to the top and they he goes the rapper guy.
He goes, man, how the fuck are you getting all.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
This nice ship?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
You got all the nice drip and the sweet cars.
And the guy's like, because I sold my soul to
the devil. And he's like a quit fucking playing man,
like what do you what do you like for real?
And he goes, yeah, for real, I gave my soul
to Satan and I'm in the Illuminati. And he's like,
calm the fuck, man, stop fucking with me, right, and
he goes he goes, no, bro, like, I'm in dead ass.

(01:19:26):
And and speaking of dead ass, he goes, how you
h sell your soul to Satan would be by essentially
uh giving your ass up in kind of a uh
in like a diddy kind of way of course, you know.
And and then also there's like you know, certain blood

(01:19:47):
rituals and stuff you gotta do and he goes, yo,
he goes, I'm getting the funk out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
I'm not with that kind of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
I mean, sure, you know, there could be a group
of people that are already powerful, know, and then you
give yourself up in that way, and then they make
connections for you and make that work, you know. But
as far as at least how I see a dude
selling your soul to the devil, I believe only means
that you're doing something that you don't really want to do,

(01:20:15):
or you're doing it for people you don't really want
to do it for, but yet the money's there, and
so it's like you're you're choosing the money over like
your your true happiness, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:25):
Like that's kind of how I look at it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Well, and we went over the different vibrational frequencies that
each person has, whether you're enlightened all the way down
to fear and you know that kind of stuff, right,
and fear was. It wasn't the bottom one, but it
was one of the bottom ones.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
As far as the frequency that you give off, the
thing is is that that's on a polarity, and so
they are. They're extremes on both ends of the pole.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
So you can use magic or which or you know,
demonology or Satanism or whatever, and you can use that
with fear if you want, and you're gonna get pretty
pretty wild results, right, because fear is such a powerful
frequency that you're giving off that ultimately that's what's powering

(01:21:16):
it up. So if you believe in your mind, and
I don't know, I'm just trying to figure it out
my damn self, But if you believe in your mind
that you giving your soul to Satan, that you actually are,
I imagine you'd be pretty damn fearful. You know, pitchfork
guy lives in hell, maybe heard of him, you know
kind of thing. It's like you probably wouldn't want to be,
I don't know, anally abused in the name of Satan.

Speaker 3 (01:21:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
It doesn't sound like a fun time to me. So
if you're doing that, then you probably actually believe that
that's what's going on. Hence the fear is powering the magic,
and therefore maybe now you sold your soul to Satan,
just trying to figure out how it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:52):
Looks like in the hits, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Yeah yeah, and then you know you have other ways too,
which you know we've had l the ALcom On and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
A few other people.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
Yeah yeah, as far as like sacrificing goes and the
life for us and the DNA and the blood and
all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:22:11):
So I think there's definitely.

Speaker 2 (01:22:15):
I mean, yeah, yeah, and even now they just sacrifice
the red heifer, which is what they had to do
over in Israel in order to build the Third Temple
in order for the Messiah to come back and all
this kind of shit, right, like you had to sacrifice
a fucking cow so that God would grant you your wished.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
That So which god are we talking about? Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Because I thought that this God didn't require sacrifice anymore,
and yet it's still going to work somehow.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
So how does that work? You know what? I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:22:46):
I just.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Right? And dude, you know what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
They they take the ashes, so they sacrifice the red heifer.
It has to be perfect and flawless, not a hair
out of order, okay, which they got from Texas. They
should it down to Israel. They and then so they
sacrifice it and then they burn it. Whenever they burn it,
they collect the ashes of this red heifer. Right, and

(01:23:10):
with the ashes, they were able to get ten and
a half pounds of ash from this red heifer. I mean,
cows are pretty big. They got ten and a half pounds.
They believe that that ash can cure people, like cure
them of like like mirror miraculous shit. Right, So they
said that they've already started doing it. They started handing

(01:23:31):
it out to people like in supernaking, whether it be
like Alzheimer's or you know, child defect, you know whatever, right, yeah,
anything crazy. And they said, every single time it works, Yeah,
every single time.

Speaker 5 (01:23:44):
We already know this, you know, powered by belief. Man,
You're you're healing yourself essentially because you believe that that
ash is gonna work.

Speaker 3 (01:23:55):
Either that that's how I see it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:56):
Either that or they're working with some evil shit.

Speaker 3 (01:24:01):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
You sacrifice, bro, You sacrificed a living animal, like you're
using that life force now. And and you're saying that
you know, God did it and God asked you for it,
and it's like, I don't know, dude, I don't I
don't know how you can say that that God is
all love whenever you got sacrifice and shit, like you

(01:24:23):
know what I'm saying, Like I get the idea of
wanting to kill an animal so that we can eat it,
so we can nourish it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
We need to eat meat and all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
This other stuff. Unless you're vegetarian than you're weird. I'm
just kidding, but you know most of us do eat meat.
So it's a it's a worthy kind of sacrifice in
this sense. They're not eating it, they're killing it. They're
sacrificing it in the name of right, in the name
of yahweh right, and then you burn it because you're

(01:24:50):
trying to purify it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
That purified ash is now miraculous.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
That kind of sounds oddly similar to what we talked
about with what was his name? Uh, there was sacrificing
the Chickenschists.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
No, that wasn't now the Alchemist. That was Jays Garrett.
Oh Jays Garrett. Okay, I fucking love that guy too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Oh my god.

Speaker 3 (01:25:10):
That episode was pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:25:12):
Wild, pretty wild, right, So JS Garrett was sacrificing chickens,
pouring the blood onto the fire, and was somehow able
to get miracles to come out of that. And he
was doing it into the name of demons.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
Yeah specifically. Yeah, what's the difference, bro, what's the fucking difference?

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (01:25:29):
You know what I'm saying, There's none. Anyway, it's a
weird place we live in. This is supposed to be
about sidereal astrology.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
Now we're to get weird, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:38):
We take it there and then you know, anyway, turning
the ship around, all right, turn it all the way around.

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
Let's see.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Oh, because Britt had to ask about the fallen angels
and we had to go there. Okay, sorry about that.
That's how we talked about fallen angels and we got
to sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
That's yeah though, that was fun.

Speaker 7 (01:25:59):
M m mmmm.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Nick said, not gonna make the full pod. Came in
for what I could night, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
You know he's a hard working man. Brid said, I
have so many dreams at night. I'm definitely busier as
I sleep than I am in my waking life. I'm
exhausted every time I wake up.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
Exactly, I felt like I got no rest. Man you know,
mind just going.

Speaker 3 (01:26:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Then she said the Jews run pretty much everything here,
Zionist Jews.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
You got to clarify the Zionist Jews for sure. I'm
not saying I agree with that, because maybe they do,
maybe they don't. Who knows.

Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
I plead the foot, I plead the fifth on that one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
We can't be held responsible here. Yeah yeah, podcasters, all right, yeah,
they don't know what we don't know as a wise philosopher.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
One said, there is uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
I did want to go check out his uh his
website here one last time before we uh do the
Tarror reading though, just to try and get it a
little bit more in his words talking about ath and
commantee so and you can check it out. His website
is called mastering the Zodiac dot com. He does great work.

(01:27:10):
I've gotten my chart read by him. I thought it
was fascinating.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
They have to have him on you know.

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Yeah, yeah, so he has like, oh he has like
certain readings and the cost and that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:27:25):
Oh he has a software that he sells too. Wow, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:32):
Right here we go. Oh wow, it was in the media.

Speaker 3 (01:27:36):
Oh how about that?

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
He got it in Women's Health and Refining eary twenty nine.
And so it's not just some strange guy. You know
what I'm saying, some real shit dude.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
He gets it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
Yeah, I mean, I guess that's pretty much it. I
thought that there was going to be more that we
could learn here. A chart dictionary. Oh, this is what
I wanted to get to. So there it says that
how to read a birth chart in minutes. So there
are three main components. There's the elliptic in the sky.
So this is kind of looking like almost like a
protractor kind of situation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:11):
Oh is this a video? Yes, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
We're not about to play eleven minutes worth though. Okay, So,
so he goes, wouldn't it be great to know how
to read a birth chart and quickly see the person's
life path and personality. Here's how first you would need
a birth chart. This is also known as a natal
chart or simply an astrology chart. Let's use yours as
an example. If you don't have it available, you can
use my simple and easy to use birth chart calculator.

(01:28:37):
Oh okay, keep in mind that this calculator uses the
actual sky called siderial astrology, so you might notice some
of your signs are different the houses. All right, this
is gonna go a little bit more in depth now.
So the houses represent the sky at the time of birth,
divided into twelve parts, more specifically the elliptic, which is
the path the planets move across the sky. He said,

(01:29:00):
twelve rate here. I think he's grouping together. O Fucus
in scorpio is one. Yeah, I want to say.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
I could be wrong anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
So the houses form the skeletal structure of the chart
and are always in the same location for everyone. They
are numbered one through twelve. So you'll see your houses
on this inner ring right here. In a western chart
like the one we are using, the beginning of the
first house is the eastern horizon. This is also known
as the rising sign or the ascendant. This is the

(01:29:29):
beginning of the chart, and the houses start here, beginning
with the first house, moving counterclockwise through the twelfth. So
you would start what rate here clockwise and counterclockwise. Okay, yeah,
so you got one, two, three, four, five, six in counterclockwise,
or as the witches like to say, wintersans it says.

(01:29:51):
Note that there are there are different house systems used
by astrologers. The ascendant might be somewhere in the first house,
or you might notice the houses aren't equal. The systems
we are using is the equal house system. This divides
the ecliptic into twelve equal parts starting from the ascendant.
Feel free to use whichever system you prefer. Oh, okay, this
is the houses, not the constellations. So that's why it's

(01:30:12):
in twelve and not thirteen. Okay, I had that confused.

Speaker 3 (01:30:15):
I'm with you.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
So opposite the ascendant is the descendant. This is the
western horizon or what's setting. The top of the chart
is the highest part of the ecliptic in the sky.
The bottom of the chart is what is underneath the
horizon or the non visible sky. So, for example, the
first house represents all areas of life associated with SLF.

(01:30:37):
This includes our self, image, motivations, goals, and appearance. The
house represent what we call areas of life. Then you
got the so that would be the houses. Then you
got the signs, which should be this outer ring here.
The signs represent where along the or where along the
ecliptic the zodiac signs were at the time of birth,

(01:31:00):
what sign was rising, which was setting. This is where
the interpretations can begin. Now that we have two components
of the chart to compare. The sign shows that the
shows the characteristics of the sky at the time of birth.
So an easy way of remembering what they represent is
to think of them as characteristics of life. For example,
the directness and assertiveness of areas. The zodiac signs show

(01:31:21):
the qualities that come through our life. Okay, then you
got the planets. So the planets, the transient planets in
the sky mirror our transient experience experience on Earth. These
experiences shape our personality. Okay, the planets do. The house
a planet is in shows what what area of life

(01:31:43):
shapes our personality, So the sign shows what characteristics shape
our personality. The easiest way to think about planets are
as the experiences of life, of life which shape our personality.

Speaker 3 (01:31:55):
Okay, got him.

Speaker 5 (01:31:56):
So you're saying earlier as far as them being our role,
the role we play. Was that what the planets I believe? So, yeah,
that would be the was it roll?

Speaker 2 (01:32:06):
No, it was like something like that though, Okay, the
actor or whatever it was. Yeah, So how to read
your natal chart? In natal chart analysis, we want to
start with the most fundamental elements first. In other words,
the most fundamental elements of your personality. Four main components
of the chart show this. The four main components are
the Sun, moon, ascendant, and the ascendant's ruler also known

(01:32:30):
as the chart ruler. We are looking for the house
and sign position of these four components. Note that the
ascendant only shows the sign. And we can go on
and on with all this. I just feel like, you know,
we want to take baby steps so trying to get
to understand all this, but I mean it is pretty interesting,
and I would love to get to a point where
I can start to really gather and fully understand, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:32:55):
Like that would get cool and just do some of
these charts just like by hand, like right there, you know. Yeah, dude, Yeah,
I think that's going to be the ultimate thing, is
just having our charts made and just look at that
and go, Okay, now, now I understand a little more
about myself, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
And ultimately, I think that's what we're what we're trying
to do, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
I think so yeah, I mean that's where you know,
you're trying to figure out your past, you know, and
you're trying to figure out your destiny with the Rahu
and kattu with the moon notes right. You also want
to know like what house your your planets are in.
You want to know what your actual sun sign is
and what your actual moon sign is. And you know,

(01:33:35):
because I came from a place I thought that my
son was in Taurus and my moon was in Scorpio.
I never forget that, right, And now with this new one,
I'm like aries and I don't even know what the
moon sign is.

Speaker 3 (01:33:46):
Yet, right, got some learning to do, man. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:49):
So so anyway, look, we are going to get to
individual readings for anybody that's interested in that. We're going
to do that before the meditation. But first we do
want to do the tarot. I do want to say
while we're saying this, anybody that's interested in us trying
to figure out your sideial chart, give us the information

(01:34:10):
that I said earlier, so it'd be your name, your city,
that you were born in, the date that you were born,
and the time if you were born. The time is
actually more important than you think because it could vary
a degree or two and that could shift, you know, everything.
I had to actually ask my parents what what my
birth time was.

Speaker 3 (01:34:31):
What was Yeah, okay, I'm at six thirteen pm? Pretty close, dude,
six thirteen. Nice, so but yeah, we're gonna get to that.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
So anybody that's interested, you just make sure you get
those four things and then we'll try and do your
chart and try and understand it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
You know, we're still learning all this stuff too, but uh,
we're babies with it. Yeah, we're barely crawling. We're still drooling. Yeah.
Well still, we got the Tarot card though, if you're ready,
good dude, I'm ready. What is it?

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
We got the Night of Pentacles? Oh, the Night of Pentacles. Okay,
the Night of Pentacles. The quest for prosperity moves slowly
and steadily, so true success is a long game, so
don't rush the process. You'll be able to see raid here,

(01:35:23):
anybody that's here watching on Patreon or YouTube. That is
the Night of Pentacles right there. Just you know, a
knight sitting on a horse holding a pentacle.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
Okay, just chilling out. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
It says nights in the Tarot are depicted on horseback
returning from a noble quest to present you with an
elemental item that you requested. The Night of Pentacles is
the only night in the Tarot whose horse appears to
stand still, which highlights his connection to the earth element.
His horse is black to evoke a sense of protection.
His careful contemplation of the pentacle in his hand symbolizes

(01:35:56):
his connection to the element of air, the element of intellect.
So the night knows that in order to bring you
the abundance that you requested, he will need to exercise
patience and make intelligent choices. He has assured prosperity because
he pays attentions to details and is methodical in his actions.
So the up upright key meetings would be long term

(01:36:19):
abundance and steady progress.

Speaker 3 (01:36:22):
That's a good garden.

Speaker 5 (01:36:24):
I paying attention to the details, like your actual astrology
sign you know right?

Speaker 3 (01:36:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
These the spiritual message behind it. It says taking daily
action in small significant ways toward your personal goals or
wellness routine is your best bet rate. Now soon you'll
begin seeing positive changes in your health or bank account A.
Remember to rely on stable friends or family members when
you need support.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yes, so solid card.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Wow, And I guess you would have as I was
getting ready to say, is that I guess you would
have a long term abundance and steady progress if you
knew what your fucking constellation was, If you knew what
your SUDI for failure.

Speaker 3 (01:37:09):
We were set up for failure. It's not even our fault,
you know. Yeah, fine, we know now, so now you know.

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Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
So we are going to wrap it up here. Sean,
what are your thoughts on true sideial astrology. I know
it's a lot to take in, but hopefully I did
a decent enough job outlining.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Oh yeah, you did a great job, and I just
feel like I'm not going back now, you know, there's
no way, like why would I go back? But that's
kind of I don't know, it's kind of hard, you know,
because I always kind of felt for some reason, some
kind of like.

Speaker 3 (01:40:03):
It was cool to be Aquarius.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
I feel like I don't know, well, you still maybe
I'm just biased, you know, but if I fully go
into Siderial, then I'm kind of having to would I not?
Would I not have to fully just embrace one.

Speaker 3 (01:40:15):
Or the other?

Speaker 2 (01:40:15):
No, you're both think you're on the cusp.

Speaker 5 (01:40:18):
Okay, so I'm just adding two. Yeah's fine, I'm good
with it. Then you're multifaceted. Full sending it, dude, full sending.

Speaker 1 (01:40:25):
Yeah, dude.

Speaker 2 (01:40:25):
Yeah, like Luis is the same, she's on the cusp.
My mom on the cusp also, so pretty interesting. I
think that just adds a couple of extra layers if
nothing else.

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, definitely. I like it, dude, I
like it a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:40:39):
I'm happy you didn't get rid of your Aquarius O
me too. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
Like I said, I think i'd be a little bit
upset about that, but I think anybody would finding out
that they're just some totally different sign.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Like, holy shit, I mean, I'm okay saying bye to
Taurus because Airry seems a little bit more in.

Speaker 3 (01:40:54):
Line with what I think right way.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Oh shit, brit said, I'm cancer and Leo according to this.

Speaker 3 (01:40:59):
There you go. See it's cool. Okay.

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(01:41:22):
you know where. And also, if you're listening to it
on the podcast or you're listening to it on YouTube,
there's a good chance that a commercial is going to
interrupt your meditation and nobody wants that, right, So you
want to uh that's why. Oh yeah, I mean just
forget it, just just go back to sleep and start
the day over again at that point. So yeah, with

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that being said, come out and check us at Patreon.
We appreciate everybody does that, and we appreciate everybody here tonight.
So yeah, it was a fun time. But look, if
siderio Astrology came here anytime anything, it's that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:57):
You don't know what you don't know, but I'll just
get weird.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
Stay weird, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
So we have the first chart that we're gonna read.
This one's for no no no no no no Rah.
That is, we're not gonna go into specifics as far
what your birthday and all that stuff was. We're just
gonna read what your uh, what your new signs and
all that stuff are, or maybe they're not new, I
don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:42:38):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Your son sign would be cancer, though Tropical calls her
a Leo, the true sky places her son in cancer.
So your core self is nurturing, protective, deeply intuitive, and
family centered. I kind of got that just by looking
at you. Sensitive to energies around you, needs emotional security
and connection.

Speaker 3 (01:43:00):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
Your moon sign would be Sagittarius, so emotional world thrives
on freedom, truth seeking and adventure, feels at peace when
exploring big ideas, traveling or diving into philosophy, and balances
cancer Sun's need for home with Sagittarius's moon love of
the horizon. Your rising would be cancer. First impression is soft, nurturing, motherly,

(01:43:25):
and empathetic. Your mercury is also in cancer, so communicates
with sensitivity, empathy, and imagination. Your venus would be in Gemini,
so you love nature, possibly love nature. You're curious, playful,
and intellectually driven. Your Mars is in Gemini, so drive

(01:43:46):
and willpower come through. You have wit, adaptability and cleverness,
quick thinker, multitasker, and sometimes restless energy. Your Jupiter's in Scorpio,
meaning expansion through deep transformation, mystery and hidden truths. Your
Saturn would be an Aquarius. Lessons revolve around collective responsibility, friendships,

(01:44:07):
and vision for humanity. Your Rahu, so your north node
would be in Libra, so this would mean soul growth
is about partnership, balance, fairness, and harmony. Says she's here
to learn collaboration and the art of diplomacy. Your your
South node or Ketsu would be in Aries, so past

(01:44:29):
like past life. Comfort zone is independence and warrior like
self focus.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
Good for you. So what's that he said? Damn right,
I like it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
So you're all overall vibe it, says. Nora is a
cancer double, meaning your sun and rising are both in
Cancer with a Sagittarius moon. A heart that loongs for
both deep roots and wild wings. She's both nurturing and philosophical,
equally at home caring for loved ones and chasing wisdom,
uh strong Gemini placements with Venus and Mars make her lively,

(01:45:04):
witty and curious in love and action with Rahu and Libra.
This lifetime is about learning partnership as a spiritual path.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
There you go. That is Does that check.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Out, Nora?

Speaker 4 (01:45:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:45:18):
Yeah, they pretty much checks down. And honestly, I'm surprised
that there are no Leo's in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:25):
Do you feel like a show off Leah or Nora rather.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
A little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
A little bit, yeah, at least much of a bitch,
as I thought, more emotional less bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:45:38):
Sometimes they're interchangeable, some would say kidding. So all right, Shawn,
Oh you ready for yours?

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
Sir?

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
Oh? Absolutely, So, Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
It's saying that your son, it's uh, it's so. It
does say that you were on the on the on
the cus cusp of Capricorn and Aquarius. For this reading,
it's calling you a Capricorn though.

Speaker 3 (01:46:05):
Okay, so Sean's sun remains in Capricorn.

Speaker 2 (01:46:12):
This gives him ambition, discipline, and a focus on responsibility.
He shines through persistence and structure. Your moon would be
in Aries, so it changed in so your moon would
traditionally be in Taurus via tropical, but in sidereal it's
now in Aries, so it says this is a big change.
The midpoint Shawn's moon falls in Aries. Emotionally, this makes

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him fiery, instinct driven, and quick to act instead of
seeking emotional stability from the tourist moon. He feels most
alive when he's pushing forward, taking risk, or acting decisively.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Your rising sign would be Leo Bold, noticeable and charismatic
in his presentation. Leo rising makes him confident, radiant, and
someone who naturally draws attention. All right, I would actually
say that that's how you are in real life. On
the show, You're.

Speaker 5 (01:47:06):
I'm a little more reserve, you know, yeah, because I
want to get the information. I want to be as
accurate as we can, you know, but when I walk
into room, dude, I mean I'm usually the biggest dude
in the room, so like it's kind of hard not
to you know, cause attention as well.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
You're also you know, you got a fun personality too.
Your mercury would be an Aquarius, so you still got
a little Aquarius in there. So innovative thinker, independent unconventional
communicator relationships thrive when intellectual freedom is honored.

Speaker 5 (01:47:35):
Unconventional communicatoral Yeah, uh, your Venus is also an Aquarius,
so Venus falls into Aquarius.

Speaker 2 (01:47:45):
Sean loves in a more detached, intellectual and freedom loving way.
His romantic style values independence, friendship, and progressive ideals rather
than purely spiritual slash mystical love. Interesting okay, And by
the way, I don't know how accurate this is. This
is I plugged it into chat GBT because it was

(01:48:06):
like the quickest way and the freest way.

Speaker 3 (01:48:10):
So, uh, the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
Would be uh, your So your Mars was in Aquarius,
your Jupiter is in Aquarius, it says, uh, your growth
comes through big picture ideas, social innovation and forward thinking collaboration.
Your Saturn is in Scorpio, so your karmic lessons remained
tied to emotional depth, hidden truths, and transformation. Family and

(01:48:35):
inner world themes may feel heavy, but ultimately strengthen you.
And your Rahu is in Pisces, so your karmic path
is to embrace spirituality, surrender, and embrace mysticism.

Speaker 3 (01:48:49):
All right.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
He is meant to dissolve boundaries and trust in the unseen.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
Mm A big one.

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
That's a big one, YEA that's Rahu, So that's the
head of the dragon.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
That's yeah to come, yeah, yeah, And it's unber satisfied, right,
never satisfied. It's starting to make sense.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Your cattoo, so the dragon's tail would be in Virgo,
so your karmic past is tied to order, practicality, and detail.
Your soul already knows the ways of analysis and control,
but growth lies in release and spiritual trust.

Speaker 3 (01:49:24):
Yeah, makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:49:26):
So your your core, true sidereal themes. Your Capricorn's son
meaning grounded, ambitious, and builder of legacy. Your Ari's moon
is instinctual and quick to act. Your Leo rising would
mean your charismatic, noticeable, and inspiring presence. Your Venus, Mercury,

(01:49:47):
and Jupiter, all three of them in Aquarius, meaning you
love freedom, you think innovatively and grow through collective ideals.
Saturn is in Scorpio meaning emotional karmic death in psychological resilience,
and Rahu is in spiritual destiny and mystical evolution.

Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
So that's cool. I like, it's like it, that's pretty sweet.

Speaker 5 (01:50:07):
I like maybe at some point, you know, we can
get like professionally done charts. You know, that'd be really cool.
But Uh, I can't argue with a lot of that
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:50:16):
Well, we're gonna get Athen on the show soon.

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Yeah, that'd be great. I'm looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (01:50:21):
Yeah, I think that. And he'll do our charts for us. Okay,
so it'd be pretty sweet, all right for me? My
son is I'm not gonna read all of mine, but
my son is in Aries. So, uh, my son is
in Aries. This makes you pioneering and forward moving, someone
who leads by action, not by waiting. Aries Sun energy

(01:50:43):
is bold, in stinctual, and always craving the next frontier.

Speaker 6 (01:50:47):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
My moon is Virgo. Instead of purely relational and harmony seeking,
your emotional core is much more detail oriented, analytical, and
service driven. You find security and structure, discernment, and being
of use to others. Relationships still matter deeply, but you
approach them with a practical lens.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
What are you looking like that?

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Mercury and Aries so quick witted, sharp, blunt, and direct.
You think and speak like a warrior with fire and conviction.
My challenge would be slowing down enough to avoid clashes,
but my gift would be cutting straight through the noise.

Speaker 3 (01:51:31):
I like it, no beating around the bush Man, No,
not at all.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
My Venuses and Pisces, you experience love is transcendent, mystical
and soulful, compassionate, imaginative, and spiritual. In Romance, you attract
deep connections but must guard against illusions. Yeah, my Mars
is an Aquarius. Your driver is toward freedom, innovation, and
collective transformation. You resist conformity and thrive on changing systems

(01:51:58):
rather than maintaining them.

Speaker 3 (01:52:01):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Uh, Jupiter and Gemini, Okay, I'm not gonna read through
all of them. I do want to read the Rahu
and Catchu ones though. So the Rahu is in Capricorn.
Your comic path is still toward responsibility, structure, and worldly achievement.
All right, Uh, you're meant to step into leadership, authority
and practical building. My past life would be Catchu is

(01:52:23):
in Cancer. Your past life tendencies remain in emotional attachment
and nurturing, you know, comfort and protection. Well, but your
growth lies in moving forward towards or moving toward outer achievement.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
So yeah, pretty interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
I like it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
I feel like it. Else has their information up, so
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:52:46):
Yeah, I guess not all right, Well, yeah, I guess
we're it's it's meditation time.

Speaker 5 (01:52:50):
Then maybe yeah, I'm ready, all right. That was an
interesting and everybody's just asleep.

Speaker 2 (01:52:57):
Yeah, kind of drifted off into the ether on that one, sir.

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
Yeah, dude, I was thinking about just going just going there,
like I felt like I could have just drifted into
the dream world.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Yeah, yeah, that was you know, I felt like my
face was melting in that one.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Actually, yeah, you were truly letting go my good sir.

Speaker 5 (01:53:16):
I was contemplating a little bit in there, you know,
how we were going over some of the future predictions
of you know, spirituality and what's possible, and then I
think we had brought up like telepathy and just a
brief moment there and I started to think of like,
you know, the.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
What is it called the telepathy tapes.

Speaker 5 (01:53:37):
Right, and they and I don't I don't know, I
don't know what I fully think on that, but they
did talk about the hill. I believe it was where
all of these kids would kind of meet up and
they are all aware of this place that they can
meet up to, you know, and I don't know, I
think that that's something that's maybe possible, you know, as

(01:53:57):
far as like going into.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
A dream state and meeting.

Speaker 5 (01:54:00):
Up with people or a group of people or anyone
that's really in tune and actually putting attention on going
to said place, you know. And then I was thinking,
like this place, you know, because usually your dream, when
you're in a world within your dream, this place is
constructed by you, by your subconscious, by your brain, you know.
And so this this hill place, like whose place is that?

(01:54:25):
Is that just the place of consciousness itself? Or like
you know what I mean, who's constructing this place that
they're all able to meet up at? I don't know,
my brain just started to go to weird places.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Well, it's not that crazy whenever you look into like
those people I can't remember what their names are now,
but the people that were remote viewing and about you
remember the story that we talked about, how there was
you know, the two different guys in the two separate
rooms they had they were not even trying to correlate anything,
but they were remote viewing, and they thought that they

(01:54:56):
were like talking to each other and then and then
afterward without even sharing stories. They shared the stories with
the mediator, right, and they both perfectly aligned to where
they were actually linked up via remote viewing. I don't
know if I think they're on another planet. They were
talking to some being. This being had a name that
they both agreed on. They both agreed on exactly how

(01:55:19):
he looked, exactly what he said, exactly how he spoke,
the terrain of which they were looking around. And there's
something to it, bro, and I would love to be
do we should try that sometime?

Speaker 5 (01:55:31):
Absolutely, I almost thought it was gonna happen, Like in
my mind, I was believing that that was possible, you know,
But then I started to think, Okay, if we end
up in some world, right in this dream like state,
in this lucid dream like state, whose world would it be.
Would it be yours, would it be mine? Would it
just be you know, something that already exists, and we

(01:55:51):
kind of just go there. I don't know, I don't know,
I mean, be shared at that point. Yeah, I don't know,
like is this my world or is it your world?

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Both? Yeah, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:56:04):
Well you're in my world now, Grandma, And then I yeah,
And then I started to think, you know, whenever you know,
you take a psilocybin and you end up in the
tree house, you know, that's the treehouse for the the
waking world, and then Lucid Dreaming is the treehouse of
the dream world, you know, because now you're aware within
that place and you're able to do whatever you want

(01:56:25):
and fly or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:27):
So yeah, yeah, there seems to be a lot less
limitations everywhere else except here.

Speaker 3 (01:56:33):
Yep, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
But yeah, uh And if you go back and you
listen to like dolorous Cannon talk, that's what she says that,
you know, Earth is a school and everybody that comes here,
like everybody that you know, all the you know, the
spirits of the angels and the other beings or whatever,
they all like are like, wow, you guys had some
balls to go down and do that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:56:55):
They're just impressed this one.

Speaker 2 (01:56:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I need another doors Cannon show
here soon. Oh by the way, we got Lord Byron
coming on Monday now and he's bringing one of his
magical buddies again and that's gonna be sweet. I love
those he's whenever he brought J. S. Garrett and L

(01:57:19):
the Alchemist, super fascinating. So Lord Byron is the fucking
man and dude one of my favorite people. He's just dude,
He's such a character, like he's a comic character.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
Bro, Like that's honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
Like the way I look at him, I'm like, are
you an archetype of my mind?

Speaker 3 (01:57:40):
Or you know what I'm.

Speaker 5 (01:57:41):
Saying, the magician that you meet? Yeah, dude, honestly, so yeah,
love love Byron. He'll be coming on Monday night, so
that'll be a fun one. But uh, but yeah, I
guess we will wrap her on upright there.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Oh, Nora said, Hey, meditating at eleven eleven, We started
at eleven eleven. Well my time, that would be nine
eleven your time, but interesting. All right, Well, I guess
we will wrap it up right there.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
And uh, we love you guys, and thank you for
joining us, and we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
You all the flip side.

Speaker 7 (01:58:11):
I guess the small farmer comp

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