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guest from the podcasting or music Comunion and we talk
about the latest and greatest and entertainment. I'm a Rashauna
Mott and today we're talking about the return of and
or one of the most loved ours properties. I would
say that there has been ever my cos this week
is is it? Josh? Welcome to show Man.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Hello, Hi, It's good to be here.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Happy to be here, happy to be on a nerdy
podcast for once in good company.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Hell yes, I love to hear that. That's exactly what
I want with the return of the show. First time listener,
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find us on all social media at metal core Nerds. Now,
before we get into the punk culture, we're gonna kick
off the show like we always do with the metal
Cornerds Song of the Week. The song of the Week
this week is from Fall fifty Feet. This is their
(02:13):
latest single, The Kingsport Curse.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Hi Joyah Yeah Yo.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Do to griss judge right outside.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Ah, I s s us.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, but I don't say sound songs such judging. They
said your two sistergether.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So whats w.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Need job sis as.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Down as.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
To sustawn.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Job whistling out, how to.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Spend the lunch lot shy job got George.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Job say guys, diet.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
By what I say out job by.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Black cow car tag.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Lock out.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Now shall rockcasts shot up, rush out as shall rashot
Hi sala long out, shall ride last.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Word a tie up to.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Russ lot bless.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Who busts.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Down.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
If you like to make a call, please hang out
and try again. Thank you again. That was Fall the
Feet with their latest single, The king Support Curse. That's
off their upcoming album Counterfeit Recollections. At this point from
this episode, Drop is Out just dropped a last Friday,
So after you're done listening this episode, go listen to
that ep if you like what you heard there. Band
(05:38):
is super Sick. I've been kind of following them for
a few years. But if you're obviously if you just heard,
if you're fans of like every Time I Die or
more concurrently, Better Lovers or Gray Haven, this band is
right up your alley and they have a ton of
music you can go check out, So make sure you
check that out. A lot of new music coming out
in general, just great. You know, new Sleep Chok and
(05:59):
New divers Prada, a New Fit for a King. It's
just like an endless supply of awesome music coming out constantly.
So if you want to hear my favorite current songs,
you can check out the Milk Corners pull a Spotify playlist.
You can check the direct link that and the show
notes below. But I like to start off the show
with now watching. So it's where my guests and I
(06:19):
we talk about what we've been watching recently, whether it's new, old,
streaming at home in the theaters. So, Josh, what have
you been watching lately?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, let me start with this.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'll tell you what I've been trying not to watch
because I have you ever heard of the expanse Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
This series?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Okay, okay, so I didn't know it was a series,
and I'm reading the books and the books are insane.
They're like six hundred and seven hundred pages each. I
think there's something like twelve in the series. And so
all my friends are like, oh, this show is so good,
and I'm like, I can't watch it. Yeah, I'm only
on the second book, and so that's been really difficult.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's like binging a book. Book is so much harder
than binging a show, you know. But I just went
back and rewatched The Wheel of Time.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm a big, like fantasy nerd, you know, I'm a
dungeon master, so I love to watch a lot of
that stuff. But I'm rewatching Real of Time to get
ready for the next season. And Will of Time was
my favorite fantasy novels of all time, so I'm very
excited about that. And yeah, from there, I would and
(07:28):
Or has gripped me in a way that the other
newer Star Wars stuff hasn't, you know. It kind of
brought me back into the universe a little bit. So
I actually watched the first season twice, which was some
hours put behind that. And yeah, yeah, some various animes. Actually,
I just I watched a Netflix anime, which I was
(07:51):
hesitant to do because it just seems strange like, you know,
but it was called Delicious and Dungeon and it ended
up being like my one of my favorite, one of
my favorite animes of the year. Yeah, this is about
it's about a group of travelers who need to go
through a dungeon, but they don't have enough money for rations,
and so they decide to just eat the monsters and
(08:13):
the dungeon and it kind of turns into like a
cooking show.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's just really great.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So those have kind of been what's on my plate lately.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, Netflix is like I feel like
that this this can go for anything on Netflix in general,
they put out so much shit, but once in a while,
there's something on there that's really good.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, And I have to convince my friends. I'm like, listen,
you have to watch Delicious in Dungeon. They're like, I'm
not watching that, you know, especially like the ones that
are like, you know, really in the anime. And I'm like,
you also have to watch the dub. And I know
that's sacrilegious, but I'm such a sub guy. But the
dub is so good and it's actually one of the
(08:54):
voice actresses is Nami from the One Piece of live action,
which I should have mentioned. Yeah, that's a thing that
I'm you know, cannot wait for the next season and
how they're gonna do some of the crew members, like
the budget that's going to go behind, you know, fully
animating some you know, I don't want to spoilers people
who haven't watched the anime, but you know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
How they pull off some things. In my piece, I
would say Netflix has the budget for it if anyone does.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
For sure. That's one thing I'll give Netflix is in
their kind of live action anime stuff in recent years,
I would say, and I'm kind of including Avatar lest
Airbender even though I know it's not technically an anime,
but it's got the same time. Yeah, yeah, is that
they've pulled off a lot of stuff that I didn't
(09:43):
think was like actually possible. And I'm not saying that
you hackey show live action is good overall, but the
action in it is insane. Like I couldn't believe it was.
It's it's amazing. I was like, what the fuck I was?
I can't believe doing this, Like it looks so cool.
And the only reason that anime adaptation is bad is
(10:06):
because it's only like six episodes, so and they cram
like a you know, like anime seasons or like network TV.
It's like, you know, twenty six episodes, you know. So
a lot goes into that way.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Even though Cowboy Bebop was such a short anime itself,
I felt like the live action also was very like
by the time I was done with it, I was like,
I don't I did not connect with anyone, you know
what I mean if I if I hadn't seen the
anime before. But no, you bring up a good point
because I talked to my friends, especially the ones who
have watched the anime of One Piece, and I think
the reason it's doing so well, or why it sits
(10:42):
so well with me, is that they are they are
filming this like it's an anime first, and.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
People on YouTube you have stitched together stuff where it's
like a one to one recreation of these.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Insane fights, even when they like sometimes they'll switch to
like a weird fish eye lens or just a camera
angle that you wouldn't normally see, and you're like, oh, yeah, no,
they're they're they're like doing the anime here just for
real people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So it's very cool to see Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, it's exciting, it's cool. I bet that's actually what
I've been meaning it again too, because I never watched
the actual anime one piece, mostly because it's like too
I feel like it's too much. There's so much.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, I still have about.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm about halfway through the anime, to be honest, and
it's been I've been watching it for like years, you know,
and skipping filler.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, So that's what I've been wanting into. I just haven't. Yeah,
but I've heard great things about it, so it's as
to eventually check out, especially with the new season coming out.
As far as I've been watching, of course, the Last
of Us is on right now.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I have been doing the Last of Us after show
over on Ages of Fandom. So if you're into that,
want to hear me wax poetic about the show as
someone who loves the game as well, go listen to that,
because I I I go in deep and I go
i'd probably talk to you dissect you dissect an amazingly
beautiful adaptation. That is it's hard, like obviously there's gonna
(12:09):
be comparisons to the two, but I've been viewing it
as they're two completely different experiences. They really are, because
you can't recreate what you're doing in a game because
you are you are that character, So they have to
do different things to kind of create that tension, create
that connection, and I think they are doing it while
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expanding the world other than the people you play through
the point of view of they're they're expanding things and
making them more in depth and just enriching this world
and really taking their time with things, which is obviously
a thing you can't do in a video game because
it's an action video game. And yes, there's incredibly cinematic
(12:51):
and beautiful story moments in the game, but there's some
things you just had, like we have to go the
next thing. You know, it's because it's the video.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You're on a rail, yeah, and you're you're definitely onto
something because and I believe it was I could get
roasted in the comments for this, but I believe it
was Naughty Dog right who did Last of Us, and
their stories in the cinematic and world building that they
do is insane, So to step up against that and
(13:19):
then build on it is cool. I don't necessarily just
want to see what I saw in the game. I
want to see how the people are living. I want
to see the inside of a run down shack, you know.
Or that's again not to just keep bringing it back
to and Or, but that's again why I kind of
like this in and Or too. I like to I
just like when they show outside of what you're used to.
(13:42):
I want to see the daily life of the people
and what's going on in this cool universe that I've
fallen in love with but haven't been able to kind
of dive into, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, well said. Other than that, my wife and I
have been watching Everybody's Live with John Malaney. It's a
John Mlane's talk show on Netflix that is is live,
I think every Wednesday. We haven't been watching live, We've
just been watching the reruns. But basically the main premise
of it, it is kind of like a normal talk show.
They have famous peoplean but he has like a topic.
Every episode that they talk about the topic, they have
(14:14):
callers calling about the topic, and it's very funny and
it's very ridiculous. And there is this one topic that
I just keep thinking about, and it was about dinosaurs.
Not that dinosaurs aren't real, but that John believes that
the way dinosaurs skeletons have been reconstructed in museums is
(14:36):
completely wrong and it's made them to be more opposing.
And it's just like even look up, I think it's
like our darn dinosaurs real is like the title. Just
watch that episode. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Like I've been looking for a comedy. I've been looking
for something funny. Everything I've been watching has been so
heavy and darklyly. I want to, like, I want to
put something on and giggle before you know, well, I
will check that out.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Actually, yeah, it's a good one too, because it's like
you know, you know, it's a talk show, so there's
no like, there's no storyline, and it's just these famous
people talking about really random things. There's one about cruise
ships and stuff. It's amazing. It's highly highly recommend And
then I've been watching the rehearsal, which it's Nathan Fielder
who did Nathan for you, And it's so hard to
(15:23):
explaining the show because it's so fucking I can.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
See like as soon as you said Nathan Fielder, like
right when you said rehearsal, I was like, I know
this ship, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I know nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So the first season, the second season just started coming out.
There's two episodes out, and the first season is basically
like he put out like a Craiglist ad and he
was He's trying to help people solve these problems. And
the first problem he ends up getting is that this
one guy, he's in a trivia bar league, and he
lied to his trivia team about having a master's degree
(15:53):
when he really only had a bachelor's degree. Now he's
been in this team and has had this lie for
like years at this point, but he wants to come
clean because he feels bad because he really likes these people,
but he's worried that this lie will ruin his friendship.
So what Nathan Fielders does is that he goes to
the bar where they have bar trivia. He recreates said
(16:13):
bar on a studio lot, completely recreates it like one
to one, and then he has actors go meet with
the people that are on his trivia bar team, like randomly,
and they meet. The actors meet with these people so
they can act as those people, and then they go
through scenarios to find the best possible option of how
to approach this conversation, and that's the premise of the show.
He like helps people, and the rehearsal is them rehearsing
(16:36):
this thing, and then it becomes into this weird surrealism
kind of thing where you really can't tell what's real
and what's not and yeah, yeah it's insane, but it's insane.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Reminds me of Jerry Duty. Have you have you seen
anything on the okay?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Co I love that show?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, same way where I'm like, wait, is real?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What's not?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is this guy really being that's with this bad you know,
like yes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, very similar to that, but way more uncomfortable okay
than that. And then the second season, the big starting
premise is that it's like some statistic about like plane
crashes and how he thinks the real problem of plane
crashes is because pilots and copilots have a problem with
(17:21):
communication with each other. So he's trying to find a
way in to solve this problem and it goes places
that like it's so insane. There's a thing that happens
in episode two that I cannot believe they like put
on they like HBO was like, yeah, that's fine, let
it go. Yeah, talks about another streaming service and it
(17:41):
puts them in the most insane light I have ever seen,
and I'm like, I can't believe they did this, Like
this is absolutely crazy. So I've just been telling people like,
go watch this show because it's I gave a little
elevator pitch, but like it doesn't even scratch the surface
of what the show does.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, and me with Delicious and Dungeon, I'll give my
little elevator pitch.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm like, yeah, it's kind of a cooking show kind
of a fan, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
And I'll be like, but you just got to go
watch it, and also you got to break the rules
and you gotta watch it in English because I said
so you just.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kind of take me from what I said. You know, yeah,
that show is absolutely insane. I just adore it because
he is the most like unaware but also aware person
I think of all time, Like he's fully like the
things he does is so awkwardly unaware, but he is
so like he's playing like like six D chess like
(18:33):
it is fucked dude.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like I seriously, an uncomfortable, awkward humor sometimes is my favorite,
you know, same, Just the long drawn out silence is
the human.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Experience of just very strange reactions. I'm like, better you
than me? I was thinking in my head, you know,
better you than me?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh yeah. I sometimes I feel like I'm an awkward person.
Then I see things like that and I'm like, maybe
I'm not right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, it builds my co you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I'm like, man, I really said some weird things yesterday,
and then I'll put something on like that and I'm like, hey,
you know what, I'm not too bad. Okay, what I
said was pretty insightful.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Actually, I have been watching this other show too. It's
on Paramount Plus and it's called Mobland. It stars Tom Hardy,
Pierce Bras and Helen Mirren and it's basically this Irish
crime family in London, modern day London, and the goings
on of that family. But Guy Richie is a part
of it. And it's just a really really good show.
Everyone who I know is watching it has been has
been really into it, and it's cool to see Tom
(19:36):
Hardy do some shit that's not venom anymore, right, It's nice.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Paramount Plus is one that I think I'm missing a
lot of gems from there because I'm not subscribed to
Paramount Plus, and some people will, you know, randomly bring
up a show like this called It's on Paramount Plus
and I should get that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But how many streaming services do I want to subscribed?
I know That's that's the battle we all fince and I'm.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Getting confused at this point, Like Hulu and Disney Plus
Are they the same?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Am I paying?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But moving on, we've we've you know, teased the and
or of it all, but Indoor dropped it came back
season two. It's first three episodes. Now each week is
going to be another three episodes. So by this by
the time this episode comes out, another three episodes have
already aired. And it's kind of like each chunk is
like a year in time. Well it takes place within
(20:33):
a year, yeah, and it's kind of like a moment
in time from all of our characters as we go
on and obviously eventually lead to Rogue one. But before
we get into and Or specifically, I want to know
what your what was your journey with Star Wars? Like
what got you into Star Wars? I know you kind
of talked about how this kind of brought you back
into Star Wars and like kind of how you're feeling
about the state of Star Wars as a whole.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, my dad got me into Star Wars and it
very young age. And he was the type of dad
that would, you know, on weekends, he'd sit us down
and put on like two thousand one of Space Odyssey
and just like you know, he showed us all all
the classics, and Star Wars was one of them. And
so I must have been like ten, you know, and
(21:16):
I was obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And I watched it over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I remember I had like these encyclopedia, like I
wish I could find them. They were like these hardcover
encyclopedias of like how the blasters were made and what
their internal components were, and like what it would look
like if you took a lightsaber or par and you know,
it would talk about the different.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Races and species and stuff. And so I was all
in on Star Wars. And then I remember I got
a little older.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I think, what was Phantom Menace two thousand and three?
Am I two thousand is something like that? I was like, yeah,
I was like thirteen or something, and people hated it.
But because I was thirteen, I was I loved it,
you know what I mean, I wasn't old enough to
be a critic. Yeah, I was having a ball so
and yeah, so I loved all three of those movies
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You know, now that I am a little bit of
a critic, I can. You know, I do hate jar
Jar Banks and I you know, and like other things
like that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But those main movies were like my core, right, And
then Disney acquired them and they started branching off and
doing all these things. And I went and saw the
new movies and I remember leaving the first one being like,
what did I just watch? It was like it reminded
me of for me and not to you know, I
(22:34):
know there's a lot of Star Wars fans out there,
but it seemed like it was like somebody like doing
a project on, like trying to imitate what Star Wars
was like, down to the transitions where they would do
like the screen wife and things like that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm like, I get what you're doing, but it just
wasn't there for me.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
The main characters were unbelievably overpowered for no reason, with
no training.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know, it was just it was just odd.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It felt like a lot of fan service and I
think that people needed fan service.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I didn't need fan service, but you know, the people
got it. And then the Mandalorian came out and I
can't even remember if I finished it. I watched a
lot of it, and I don't know if I finished it,
and only because I was watching it, and then I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Left for tour, and when I came back, I just, yeah,
it like interrupted my whole cycle, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, I just I wasn't I wasn't feeling it. Rogue
one I thought was good, but this one again, the
way that it was so just like Ant. There's Ant.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Everyone's an anti hero first off, and like it's showing
the disorganization of it all, and like how it wasn't
this perfect operation.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Like when we're first introduced to.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
The rebels in Star Wars, it was Leah, you know,
stealing the plans from the of the Death Star, you know,
right after Cassie and does this thing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And so from that point on, all.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You're seeing is like this tunnel vision of like, okay,
we see we see these things every now and then,
but you don't know how we got to this point
or anything. So to see these like unwilling unruly anti
heroes who all just want to work for themselves kind
of begrudgingly all come together.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, no, I'm into this. I'm into this.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
This isn't just a bunch of people starting out with
like special powers and like, you know, I picked up
a lightsaber and now I can use it and fight
this guy who's running the New Empire. It was more like, oh, no,
we're gonna lose, and we're gonna lose a lot, and
we have to do like really morally gray things, especially
because of Luthen.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I loved it, and I love cyberpunk.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's like my favorite genre. And I feel like the
first season, especially, it was kind of cyberpunk to me.
It was very dyscopy and it was yeah, so yeah,
big Time got pulled in with this. That brought me
right back into Star Wars. And now it's like, now
I want to go back and watch all this stuff
I missed. I want to go rewatch the newer movies again,
but maybe a more open mind. You know, gotta go
(24:59):
finish the Mandalorian. I'm like fully back in now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So I think there's one thing you definitely should check
out because I feel like it's like a good mix
of what and Or does and has that like fantastical
Star Wars stuff is Star Wars Rebels and it's animated,
but it's amazing, and it really just follows this main
cell of Star Wars Rebels as they go through in
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their journey. It ends up following one Jedi and his crew,
and then they end up picking up a kid and
he becomes Padawan, and it has probably one of the
emotionally resonent moments in all of Star Wars for me,
like straight up really crushed, like ruined me, like absolutely
ruined me. It has a lot of Darth Maull in it,
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Ahsoka's in it a fair amount, and mod Mathma's in it.
Like some of the stuff kind of connects where I
think during the place of and Or now I think
is during the place of Rebels. So these things are
all happening at this point, which is really just so cool.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, shows that off too, and like I shouldn't forget
his name, Nimick.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Nimick.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
From the first he says something where he's like he
gives this monologue where he's just like the rebellion is everywhere,
the rebellion is little pockets of unorganized people making the
smallest incremental ste and like that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know something about that. I was like, no,
that's that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's how this like rebellion started, was just people didn't
even know there was a rebellion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It was just groups of people who had enough and
eventually united.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I'm curious to see, you know, the first couple
episodes that have come out of this new season all
seem very political, and they seem very drawn out, and
I'm hoping they move this along a little bit, and
I think they will.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think they're trying to give that sense of like, hey,
this goes all the way to the top, you know
what I mean, especially with like my Mathma coming back
in and like the Senate and the Investment's failing and
people kind of shaking their fear. I don't know, I
see what they're doing, but I would like to get
back to the rebels on the ground a.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Little bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You know, from when I've heard of my friends who've
seen all of the season, they're like, it just continues
to ramp up from here.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, Cassian, you know, landing and fight, Like seeing that
group of disorganized rebels, you know, and kind of getting
caught up and stuff. I think they needed to do
that to delay him showing up at the right moment,
but unnecessary to me, I think, yeah, that was like, hey,
we've been hinting that the rebels are a little disorganized,
but like, now let's just throw it in everyone's face
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for half an episode.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you know, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That was my biggest nitpick of these first three is
that I felt like that whole section could have been
sped up. For sure, Yes, because exactly it's like, you
get what they're saying. They talk about how their leader's gone,
and now their leader's gone, everything's going to shit, and
it's like, okay, yeah, we get it. The coolest revelation
about that that whole planet is that it's you Haven
(28:05):
four and we know, like the primary base of like
the rebel alliance. So that's cool. And obviously they do
a lot of work where they need to be and
I'm pretty sure around the time. But what I loved
about the beg, what had me so stoked, was that
that opening scene of seeing Cassion in that empire like
testing pilot facility, and that like little speech he gives
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where he's like, the empire cannot win. You'll never feel
right unless you're doing what you kind of stop them.
You're coming home to yourself. You've become more than your fear.
And while he's saying it to you know, this new
like rebel recruit, like he's saying it to himself too,
because that was like the whole journey of season one
where he was like reluctant against this cause and then
as he like kind of became like a cog in
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the system, he realized that's the only option. He has.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, that prison change, that prison break gave me goose fun.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That shit is the best. And the person directing the
second chunk of episodes, the guy did those so I.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh cool, cool, Yeah that was done so it could
have been so tacky. O.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, they did it.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They did it well. They really came up with, like, how.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Could these guys actually tactically get out of this maximum
security prison that's floating in the water, and then they
made it realistic. Like I mean, truthfully, those were probably
the only two people who made.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It out of the one hundreds who jumped off.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know, yeah, I mean I can't really see any
other scenarios or anyone else made it off that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Unless they also found random aliens with the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Poor Andy character, I can't swim after giving the most
epic monologue of all time, I.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Try, I was like, no, try, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I think if someone was yelling at me like I
can't swim, like just I've lived the human experience and
if you throw yourself into water, your boy, you know
what I mean, You're not gonna You're gonna You're gonna
flip on your back and do a little backstrokeer you know,
doggy paddle. You might be going slower, you might not
be able to freestyle out of there, but I'm confident
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he could have kept himself his head of the water.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
We all saw the return of Krenick, Yes, and obviously
he's very integral to what happens in Rogue one. But
seeing him talk about Gorman, which kudos who ever made
that Gorman commercial, because I couldn't believe what I was
watching in a Star Wars series, I was like, this
is insane.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
They do a good job of like crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
The Star Wars universe was created with that, like like
the eighties tech vibe, you know what I mean? With
scam everything's just very old, and they're doing a good
job of being like, no, this is sci fi. We've
expanded into this, guys. This is like you know, I
guess it's technically a long long time ago, but it's
just the tech is I don't know, they've kept it
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retro while still and so I felt like that translated
into this commercial as well, like it almost gave like
Fallout vibes, you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Know what I mean. Oh yeah, I gave like Fallout vibes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I really liked that, and just the way they explained
it and like the spiders, the way they animated it
and showed it all happening.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I was like, this is very cool, amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Because I think if that was dumb with just dialogue,
my eyes probably would have glazed over a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
If they're like, oh, there's these spiders and they have
you know this and Silk out to Malaya whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I'm I'm excited to see his journey throughout this
season of and and Or and him obviously getting to
what eventually will be the Death Star and everything like that,
and it's cool to see him and Dedra kind of
like like the universe of the Empire brought them together
to work together as two just like terrible people. But
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Dedra and Cyril I did okay, so obviously they kind
of elude them kind of getting together at the end
of season one, and that kind of like left my brain.
And then when I saw the scene of them together
like getting ready, I was like, oh shit, they're like yeah,
the other together, okay, wild And it's such a weird
thing because you kind of had this I don't know
(32:08):
if like hatred more like dislike in season one, but
seeing them as a couple, it made me like them
a lot more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They humanize them.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, And he was like she stood up to her
his mother.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes. I was like, wow, what a good partner. I
was like, damn, she is like there for her, man,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
She's picking up on what's going on. She's like, oh
I see now, I see. You know, I see where
that came from. Let me quell that real quick.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I can believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And you know, they did a great job with his
character because they they make you not like him, but
they make you not like him in like an infantile
like a like a childish way, like even down to
the little things where like I don't know if you noticed.
But in the first season, every time he's eating, he's
like eating cereal and it looks like children cereal, like
a wooden spoon, and it's just he's just very you know,
(33:02):
he has his breakdown. He's just on the bed, like
in the fetal position and kind of giving like Homelander
vibes a little bit like Mommy as she vibes.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But yeah, she picks up on that. I just shuts it.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
She was so unlikable and that I'd love when someone's
so unlikable because that means they're doing their job very
well as an actor actress. But yeah, I'm curious to
see where they're gonna take that, because I have a
feeling they're gonna make us like them and then we're.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Gonna be like, you know, like, yeah, I feel like
they're gonna be pick up against other people. We like him,
we're gonna be very torn.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, Which that's good writing. That's good writing. And I
just want to point out the bed thing, which is
obviously the best reaction beam of all time now, is
that that was totally improved by the actor.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh man, that's great. He's living in the head.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, And the actor who played Dedra didn't see it
because she's obviously off camera in the other room, and
she just kind of remarked of how the director was
so happy with what he did, and then when she
eventually saw the episode, she's like, wow, that is incredible.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It was such a just like you poor just like
I don't know, I saw him in that position, and
I was like, what happened to that man in the
uniform who was like the umpire security is ulmost, Like
you just see this like manchild just laying on this
not even not yeah, not even the fetal position. That
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was just like my body went limp here.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
And I'm just gonna pure defeat, utter defeat. Yeah. And
it's like that. I think that's why he's so authoritative
in a place where he has just a little bit,
like the tiniest bit of power is because that's the
one place where he's like, yeah, he's like he's confident
and he knows that he has that shred of power there,
(34:56):
so he kind of takes advantage of that. And you know,
it's because when he's with these like female figures that
he like obviously looks up to, he's like submissive to
them because that's how he was raised. He was raised
in a home that was like obviously not great and
that has affected him. And yes's such a cool thing
for Star Wars to even to.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Touch on what and do it in a way that's
not They've touched on things that have been heavy, you
know what I mean, a few things that I wasn't
expecting in the Star Wars universe.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
But they're doing it in a way that isn't making
me uncomfortable, you know what I mean. It's nothing. They're
just handling things well. And if something is way too heavy,
they're doing it off screen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I mean they did handle something really heavy in these
episodes two. Yeah, yeah, in the Planet where Bis and
Brasso they're kind of hiding out waiting for Cassie and
of course be to Emo, the best droid. I love
him so much. I love him. He breaks me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Sad. Why is it always the inanimate like like the
non humans that I'm always.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Like, oh, every he's like where is he in? And
I'm like, kill me y this is And I.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Think I know what you're referencing the scene that you're
going to reference and yeah, that's kind of what I'm.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Talking of course, And this is kind of I don't
even want to say it's controversial, because the people that
have talked about it of why it exists have had
very good answers for it, and I think it is
kind of important. It's like, obviously Star Wars is based,
you know, it's it's faster, you know it's and how
it starts exactly, and there's even like Nazi iconography kind
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of references, like with crenics like overlook thing to things
that like Hitler had and stuff like that. Tony Gilroy
is a massive history nerd, and the reason this show
feels so relevant and topical is because history is doomed
to repeat itself for all fucking etunity. And why it's
even more depressing to watch because like, wow, this guy
(37:00):
we're going through now that sucks is because that's just
what happens. It just keeps a cycle of the same
fucking shit forever because human beings are flawed and that's
just how it is. And when we see this officer
of the empire try to take advantage of bicks, try
to sexually assault her people, saying like there's no place
for that in Star Wars. It's like that that exactly
(37:22):
is what Star Wars is trying to point out is
stuff I think.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
So yeah, And I think that's one of those things
where that stuff absolutely was happening against Star Wars, but
it was happening off screen, you know what I mean.
And this is and or, and this is specifically giving
us a yeah, and this is giving us a glimpse
at not the heroes, not the Jedi, not that these
are the people on the ground, these are the peasants,
(37:45):
these are the people that the Empire thinks are subhuman,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And they're It's just it's a different take.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm glad that they didn't go full force into it,
like it got a little heavy, but I didn't have to,
like you know, normally with those types of scenes, like
sometimes I'll just fast forward like I know it's about
to happen, Like I don't need this to drag on
for ten minutes. But they ended it in a way
that was they proved their point and you know, they
moved along. But yeah, that one, that one caught me
(38:11):
by surprise. It's definitely giving me the vibe that we're
headed somewhere where the show could get dark, and you know,
I'm looking at Cyril and like you said, this submissive thing,
I think that man is in a perfect position to
be manipulated into doing sure horrible. So I think that
we're gonna end up, you know, like we did say
(38:34):
we like them now, but something is gonna happen. I
think we're gonna end up hating her again because we're
gonna start seeing her manipulating him and he's gonna do
some some shit that is gonna leave us very queasy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And it's this show is very interesting because it's crazy
because I feel like a lot of the projects that
are like big ip things, it seems like the stuff
that people have. When it got announced or whatever, people
kind of hated on them. They're like, who wants to
see a show about the guy that we know that
dies of Rogue one? And then it comes out and
everyone's like, holy shit, this is amazing. Same thing with
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like Agatha all Along from Marvel or Thunderbolts is coming out.
Everyone a got announced, like who wants this? And now
it's getting reviewed as one of the best movies since Endgame?
And it's like when you put the right people behind
the camera, whether it's you know, writing, director, everything like that.
It's like, and you put out a good story, people
are gonna connect it no matter what it is. And
that's what those projects have been doing. And it's like
(39:29):
the show is perfect example. And but I think the
thing I love about it is because the show still
has stakes, because it's making you fall in love with
all these other characters that obviously are on the chopping block,
because as we see in Rogue one, we don't see
any other characters other than Krenik obviously at this point. Yeah,
so it's like you're like, and seeing Brasso go in
(39:49):
this first arc, you know, you're like, fuck, that dude
was Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Let's talk about that. He was the best dude.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Several times I got goosebumps during his scenes. This is
early Walking Dead spoilers, but I'm just gonna say them
in case someone's like, oh, I just started season one,
so like you know what, I felt like, Yeah, you
know what, I just you know, in case of someone
out there. It felt like when they killed off Carl
off screen, like when he got bit off screen, how
(40:19):
are you gonna?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I don't I love Andre. I love everything about it.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
How are you gonna Unless I blinked, he got shot
off screen, he got on that speeder, he started speeding away.
By the time Cassian finds him, he's dead. And I
was just like Batman deserved to take his blaster shot
on camera, you know what I mean, Like, I don't
know if they cut it for a time, and I
(40:43):
was like, you did not just kill him off screen?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I guess it's for the shock of Cassian landing and
being like.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
No, I thought you saw him get shot.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Maybe I must have, maybe I blinked through it, but
I am I thought that it just showed them missing
him a bunch, and then being like, oh, of.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Course he got away. It's stars and then Cassie and
coming in seeing that trail and be like, oh, no,
they got him.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
But maybe I'll go back and watch. But I you know,
I didn't see the blaster hit. Let us know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
If you actually and I just I don't know, Like
I love how the stakes are there for anyone's fair game.
I have a bad feeling that Bix is gonna die
before the end of this, I know, and destroy me.
She's already not getting.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Any better, Like yeah, it's like she is falling apart,
and I'm just like, every time I see her, I'm
just like this, this is so sad.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
But to me, it's like there's some like weird form
of hope because obviously when the officer was trying to
assault her, she fought back and she eventually won. She
killed the guy, and that shows her like resolve and
her strength and her willingness to be a part of
this cause, be a part of this rebellion, and that,
to me, I was like, wow, like that showing that
even in the face of adversity, even in the face
(42:02):
of so much trauma, you can still rise above that
for a greater good. And it's like the ending of
these three episodes is heartbreaking, it hopeful, it's like a
weird and even like the mod moth and stuff a
which we haven't really talked about, yeah, which shout out
to Star Wars for starting a scene with a wonner,
Like I couldn't believe what I was watching. I was like,
are they doing a wonder right now? Star Wars is
(42:24):
doing a wonder? What the fuck is happening? Like I
was losing my shit and to see what she has
to do with because it's like, obviously she did this
arrange marriage so she could fund the empire or fund
the rebellion, and you know, she's sacrificing everything she loved
in her life to make sure that like future generations
will have a hope that she won't even see maybe exactly,
(42:47):
and to see her kind of let loose and dance
at this wedding to one fit in and make it
seem like, you know, she's status quo mom at a wedding,
but it's like almost like her farewell to her life.
It's like the last chance she can finally be like
free from anything. And that is so many people were like,
(43:08):
why is she dancing? And I'm like, it's so devastating,
what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I had goosebumps. I had goose bumps during the dancing scene.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
It's just like it's another one of those scenes that
pulls me into the universe and I'm like, oh no,
these are like real people, like yeah, and it's just
like they're having a good time and they're letting loose
and you just remind me of the scene from like
Zion and the Matrix, you know, where it's Yeah, it's
just very like m just I don't know it wasn't
what I was expecting because it started off and I
(43:37):
was like, this is stupid.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
When they're doing like the little ballroom dance, I'm like,
this is dragging on. And then it came into that
and I was like, this is this is so cool,
you know, and I kind of liked it too.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Because it's like they're on the the planet of Chandrilla
and they're showing all these like customs that we like
really haven't seen the Star Wars before, and it was like,
even though they're not they're not explaining it. They're showing.
They're doing very show not tell, which I love that. Yeah,
and I love that You're just like you're kind of
just getting engrossed in this like new culture we haven't
really seen in Star Wars, and they're not overly explaining it.
They're just kind of showing it to you. And I
(44:08):
was like, Wow, how fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
And that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
It's hard to do because, like I said earlier, I'm
a dungeon master and I never follow like modules and dragons.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I always write my own stories for my players, and
it is it's such a hard thing to write.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's so hard to build lore without specifically showing it,
you know, or just yeah, or without it's like without
specifically telling it's just like in hearing ambient things happening too.
I love getting a key piece of info from a
TV someone's walking past, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I love that type of like, oh did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
You know, like a little radio chatter that they don't
even really like they're not panning in the camera at
the radio.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
It's just someone walking by in here in today's news
rebel soldiers, you know, you're like, Oh, something's happening.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Love that that. I love that much. And that's kind
of the main points of what happened in the in
these first three episodes. But I wanted to know, like,
what are you looking forward to to the rest of
the season. We got three more weeks of and and Or,
I will say, three episodes, and they're like I've always
described as and Or as like it's basically an HBO show.
(45:19):
It just happens to be Star Wars, Like that's the vibe,
that's the quality, that's the vibe. Everything is like that.
But like watching three episodes, I didn't even finish the
three episodes in one night because it's like no, it's
I'm on the East Coast. I watched like two and
a half and I was like, I'm gonna go to bed.
I'll finish that.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I'm on the East Coast too, And yeah, I did
the same.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I literally just I've been so busy that I watched
the first two episodes and I that third episode it
took me a while to come to and I just
finished it, like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
A lot. It's like three hours of content almost.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I'm excited to see possibly how they construct the Death
Star in well, let me think of the time we're
off for Bby is what it is, b y y
b b y bby Bby and the Death Star is
i mean completely being built. Yeah, five years later, it's
(46:13):
already the battles happening, right like or am I?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah? Like the year Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
So I'm wondering when they're gonna start showing it, when
they're gonna start showing that stuff off. I actually thought
in that meeting when they showed the commercial gonna it
was gonna show it was gonna be the Death Star blueprints?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Did you really?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay? I think we're eventually gonna get there. That's gonna
be like the committee that does it. I don't know.
If you in the post credit scene of season one,
they show like they show you that what Cassium was
building in the prison was components of the death Star,
which is there was a credit cart breaking.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, I didn't see the post credit scene. I didn't
know there was a post credit scene that was so.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Long ago too, that was I don't know when the
post credit scene shows that what they were building in
the prison, which a lot of people guessed is that
they were building parts of the Death Star, and they
show what it goes to and they show the construction
of it, so it's like it was in construction even
at the end of season one. So I am guessing
we will get to that point too, where we'll see
different stages of the Death Star and like we'll see
(47:16):
Krenic start to like formulate his task force of the
Death Star, and so.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It's already understruction then and they're not just gonna whip
this thing together in three or four years.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I don't know their technology, but the Death Star seems
to be an undertaking to build, you know, you think
about the prison sequences, they're just building like weird components
that are just like you know, like just a little
building block of said Death Star, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I didn't think about that. They showed Death Star components.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he he helped create the thing he.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
Needs to destroy destroys as George Lucas will saying, it's
it's it's poetry right yeah, A man, it's so wild.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
It's cool to see.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, some of the the I'm curious to see who
else they involve, you know, I know that they just
mentioned the Emperor.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I wonder if they'll bring him back. They seem to
bring him back in every every.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Single trial, Like this is the one where he won't
be in it since the.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Mom where he's finally not on screen. Palpatine has come
back from the dead what five times? Though? No like
having my Mathma there, even though she's just got some
smaller parts in the new stuff. Like, I don't know,
just I'm wondering how many of those legacy characters we're
going to start seeing at that we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
See any of them, That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Are they just gonna do this all from the the Like,
is this going to be a story where we see
how the rebellions started and we see it from the
view of all the rebels who don't get to see
what the rebellion causes, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Like, yeah, I think that's what's kind of going on.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
We get to see that generation of people who are like, no,
we're fighting for something for the next generation and most
of us are gonna die and not see this.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
But it's better than living under whatever iron Fists were
living under right now. And again, like what you would
have known this more than me.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
The Jedi have already been around for what twenty five
thousand years at this point, Like what are they doing
right now?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
They're all hiding because it or sixty six Okay, okay,
that's it, Okay, not really existing being killed off by inquisitors.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, so, from what I understand, like the Empire spent
all this time studying like how to kill the Jedies
while the Jedies were kind of just like doing their thing.
And then that's how that's kind of like the reason
behind how they were able to lose so bad.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
But yeah, the one the one thing I'm hoping that's
and I don't think it'll be a cameo, but I
hope there's a mention is that Sokatano's like code name
for the rebellion was full Chrum. So if they say
the word fulcrum, I'm gonna lose it. That would be
awesome because even the rebels this this is sort of
(50:08):
a spoiler for rebels. I guess you see them interacting
with Foulkrum and then you eventually find out it's Soakano
and everyone's like, oh shit.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But I don't think she's gonna show up in this.
Like Tony Yuroy is is very much like he's a
Star Wars nerd, but he's not like a Superstar Wars nerd,
and like they have a team that kind of does
the Star Wars things with the show to make sure
it all is like makes sense, and you know, there
is those tie ins and things like that. But this
is not like the cameo. This isn't the Mandalorian, you know, yeah,
(50:37):
the cameo thing.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, the Mandalorian was very cameo.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I think that's what kind of made me like I
was into it, but it was more like I'm not like,
you know, super I get it pulled into it.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, this is a different level of storytelling, but that's
my hope. That's my hope is there's there's a Fulcrum
reference in somewhere in the Rebellion. I would love that.
If not, I'm fine because I love what they're doing
and I'm very excited to see how the season continues
to progress.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I think, I think, I don't I don't want to
see jedies, but I would like to hear him rig. Yeah,
there's just yeah, there's nothing making.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
There's like you know, there's like like right right after
this is where Luke becomes a thing and he's like
the lone Jedi. He's not the only Jedi. Like Ahsoka's
out there. Calcasses from the video games is out there.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, it's so hard to keep the timeline straight with
how everything releases different, but you're right, Yeah, everyone goes,
even the ones that don't die just going to exile.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, like Obi Wan's chilling on Taine right now, Yoda.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yoda's an exile.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yoda's on Diego Ba chilling, which, by the way, if
we just want to throw it back, the scene where
Yoda finally pulls out his lightsaber and starts flipping all
around and does his battle scene the ship.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
The moment when my childhood eyes saw that, I was
just like, good, that will stick with me for the
rest of my life. Yeah, and I need to bring
that up on this podcast because just like you just
never see like who.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Is this old green creature?
Speaker 3 (52:11):
And then suddenly I was like, oh no, this makes sense,
Like seeing the lightsaber like spinning like that with him
in the air, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh my gosh, the best We need a Yoda show.
We need a show that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yoda show would be He's in a lot of Clone Wars. True, yeah,
he's in a good amount of Clone. But dude, thank
you so much for taking your time talking to some
Star Wars with me. This is great.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah. Absolutely, thanks for having me. That was fantastic, No.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No problem at all. More than happy to have you
back anytime anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
But before we got here, please plug what you got
going on musically, where people can find you, let people
know what's up.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, definitely you can find me and make it really easy.
The name is is it?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Josh one Word? I am a post hardcore and metal
court artist who grew up playing in all the bands
and now I'm doing a solo project it's a little
post hardcore, a little poppy.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm trying to bring in that that angsty.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Post hardcore metal core vibe into like pop music. So
we'll see how it goes and bending some genres here. Yeah,
you can find me anywhere.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Is it Josh? Is it Josh dot Com? Is it Josh?
On Spotify, Apple Music, TikTok, Instagram, Ulsha Bang.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Got a new album coming out May thirtieth and hitting
the road to play a couple of cities in June.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
So that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Amazing, And I'll make sure and link everything down below
so you can go down there and check it. Even
though you made it goodly easy for you. That's I try.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, I try.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Is it Josh Spotify the dj X, you know, like what,
let's listen to what he calls me. I sit Josh,
which is a little disappointing, but.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
No like I s but whatever, we'll get it. And
it used to say is it Josh?
Speaker 3 (53:50):
And there must have been an update in there, because
now I says, I sit Josh, It is Josh.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Hardy merch with you just say and then that's like
my buddy in front of it.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
I had a friend who thought it was like alex
Is on fire. Oh yeah, it's one of those scenarios,
you know.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Damn damn. I sit Josh dot com everyone check me out.
Debut album coming. I love sitting. I'm doing it right now.
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off the show like we always do with the metal
Cornerds Song of the Week. The song of the Week
this week is from Fall fifty Feet. This is their
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latest single, The Kingsport Curse.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Hi Joyah Yeah Yo.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Do to griss judge right outside.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Ah, I s s us.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
So, but I don't say sound songs such judging. They
said your two sistergether.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So whats w.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Need job sis as.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Down as.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
To sustawn.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Job whistling out, how to.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Spend the lunch lot shy job got George.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Job say guys, diet.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
By what I say out job by.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Black cow car tag.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Lock out.
Speaker 5 (04:24):
Now shall rockcasts shot up, rush out as shall rashot
Hi sala long out, shall ride last.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Word a tie up to.
Speaker 5 (04:49):
Russ lot bless.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Who busts.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Down.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
If you like to make a call, please hang out
and try again. Thank you again. That was Fall the
Feet with their latest single, The king Support Curse. That's
off their upcoming album Counterfeit Recollections. At this point from
this episode, Drop is Out just dropped a last Friday,
So after you're done listening this episode, go listen to
that ep if you like what you heard there. Band
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is super Sick. I've been kind of following them for
a few years. But if you're obviously if you just heard,
if you're fans of like every Time I Die or
more concurrently, Better Lovers or Gray Haven, this band is
right up your alley and they have a ton of
music you can go check out, So make sure you
check that out. A lot of new music coming out
in general, just great. You know, new Sleep Chok and
(05:59):
New divers Prada, a New Fit for a King. It's
just like an endless supply of awesome music coming out constantly.
So if you want to hear my favorite current songs,
you can check out the Milk Corners pull a Spotify playlist.
You can check the direct link that and the show
notes below. But I like to start off the show
with now watching. So it's where my guests and I
(06:19):
we talk about what we've been watching recently, whether it's new, old,
streaming at home in the theaters. So, Josh, what have
you been watching lately?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Well, let me start with this.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I'll tell you what I've been trying not to watch
because I have you ever heard of the expanse Yes?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
This series?
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Okay, okay, so I didn't know it was a series,
and I'm reading the books and the books are insane.
They're like six hundred and seven hundred pages each. I
think there's something like twelve in the series. And so
all my friends are like, oh, this show is so good,
and I'm like, I can't watch it. Yeah, I'm only
on the second book, and so that's been really difficult.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
It's like binging a book. Book is so much harder
than binging a show, you know. But I just went
back and rewatched The Wheel of Time.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I'm a big, like fantasy nerd, you know, I'm a
dungeon master, so I love to watch a lot of
that stuff. But I'm rewatching Real of Time to get
ready for the next season. And Will of Time was
my favorite fantasy novels of all time, so I'm very
excited about that. And yeah, from there, I would and
(07:28):
Or has gripped me in a way that the other
newer Star Wars stuff hasn't, you know. It kind of
brought me back into the universe a little bit. So
I actually watched the first season twice, which was some
hours put behind that. And yeah, yeah, some various animes. Actually,
I just I watched a Netflix anime, which I was
(07:51):
hesitant to do because it just seems strange like, you know,
but it was called Delicious and Dungeon and it ended
up being like my one of my favorite, one of
my favorite animes of the year. Yeah, this is about
it's about a group of travelers who need to go
through a dungeon, but they don't have enough money for rations,
and so they decide to just eat the monsters and
(08:13):
the dungeon and it kind of turns into like a
cooking show.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
It's just really great.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So those have kind of been what's on my plate lately.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, Netflix is like I feel like
that this this can go for anything on Netflix in general,
they put out so much shit, but once in a while,
there's something on there that's really good.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yeah, And I have to convince my friends. I'm like, listen,
you have to watch Delicious in Dungeon. They're like, I'm
not watching that, you know, especially like the ones that
are like, you know, really in the anime. And I'm like,
you also have to watch the dub. And I know
that's sacrilegious, but I'm such a sub guy. But the
dub is so good and it's actually one of the
(08:54):
voice actresses is Nami from the One Piece of live action,
which I should have mentioned. Yeah, that's a thing that
I'm you know, cannot wait for the next season and
how they're gonna do some of the crew members, like
the budget that's going to go behind, you know, fully
animating some you know, I don't want to spoilers people
who haven't watched the anime, but you know, we'll see.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
How they pull off some things. In my piece, I
would say Netflix has the budget for it if anyone does.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
For sure. That's one thing I'll give Netflix is in
their kind of live action anime stuff in recent years,
I would say, and I'm kind of including Avatar lest
Airbender even though I know it's not technically an anime,
but it's got the same time. Yeah, yeah, is that
they've pulled off a lot of stuff that I didn't
(09:43):
think was like actually possible. And I'm not saying that
you hackey show live action is good overall, but the
action in it is insane. Like I couldn't believe it was.
It's it's amazing. I was like, what the fuck I was?
I can't believe doing this, Like it looks so cool.
And the only reason that anime adaptation is bad is
(10:06):
because it's only like six episodes, so and they cram
like a you know, like anime seasons or like network TV.
It's like, you know, twenty six episodes, you know. So
a lot goes into that way.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Even though Cowboy Bebop was such a short anime itself,
I felt like the live action also was very like
by the time I was done with it, I was like,
I don't I did not connect with anyone, you know
what I mean if I if I hadn't seen the
anime before. But no, you bring up a good point
because I talked to my friends, especially the ones who
have watched the anime of One Piece, and I think
the reason it's doing so well, or why it sits
(10:42):
so well with me, is that they are they are
filming this like it's an anime first, and.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
People on YouTube you have stitched together stuff where it's
like a one to one recreation of these.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Insane fights, even when they like sometimes they'll switch to
like a weird fish eye lens or just a camera
angle that you wouldn't normally see, and you're like, oh, yeah, no,
they're they're they're like doing the anime here just for
real people.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
So it's very cool to see Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah, it's exciting, it's cool. I bet that's actually what
I've been meaning it again too, because I never watched
the actual anime one piece, mostly because it's like too
I feel like it's too much. There's so much.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, I still have about.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I'm about halfway through the anime, to be honest, and
it's been I've been watching it for like years, you know,
and skipping filler.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
So it's a lot.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
It's a lot.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, So that's what I've been wanting into. I just haven't. Yeah,
but I've heard great things about it, so it's as
to eventually check out, especially with the new season coming out.
As far as I've been watching, of course, the Last
of Us is on right now.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
I have been doing the Last of Us after show
over on Ages of Fandom. So if you're into that,
want to hear me wax poetic about the show as
someone who loves the game as well, go listen to that,
because I I I go in deep and I go
i'd probably talk to you dissect you dissect an amazingly
beautiful adaptation. That is it's hard, like obviously there's gonna
(12:09):
be comparisons to the two, but I've been viewing it
as they're two completely different experiences. They really are, because
you can't recreate what you're doing in a game because
you are you are that character, So they have to
do different things to kind of create that tension, create
that connection, and I think they are doing it while
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expanding the world other than the people you play through
the point of view of they're they're expanding things and
making them more in depth and just enriching this world
and really taking their time with things, which is obviously
a thing you can't do in a video game because
it's an action video game. And yes, there's incredibly cinematic
(12:51):
and beautiful story moments in the game, but there's some
things you just had, like we have to go the
next thing. You know, it's because it's the video.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You're on a rail, yeah, and you're you're definitely onto
something because and I believe it was I could get
roasted in the comments for this, but I believe it
was Naughty Dog right who did Last of Us, and
their stories in the cinematic and world building that they
do is insane, So to step up against that and
(13:19):
then build on it is cool. I don't necessarily just
want to see what I saw in the game. I
want to see how the people are living. I want
to see the inside of a run down shack, you know.
Or that's again not to just keep bringing it back
to and Or, but that's again why I kind of
like this in and Or too. I like to I
just like when they show outside of what you're used to.
(13:42):
I want to see the daily life of the people
and what's going on in this cool universe that I've
fallen in love with but haven't been able to kind
of dive into, you know.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, well said. Other than that, my wife and I
have been watching Everybody's Live with John Malaney. It's a
John Mlane's talk show on Netflix that is is live,
I think every Wednesday. We haven't been watching live, We've
just been watching the reruns. But basically the main premise
of it, it is kind of like a normal talk show.
They have famous peoplean but he has like a topic.
Every episode that they talk about the topic, they have
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callers calling about the topic, and it's very funny and
it's very ridiculous. And there is this one topic that
I just keep thinking about, and it was about dinosaurs.
Not that dinosaurs aren't real, but that John believes that
the way dinosaurs skeletons have been reconstructed in museums is
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completely wrong and it's made them to be more opposing.
And it's just like even look up, I think it's
like our darn dinosaurs real is like the title. Just
watch that episode. It's amazing.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Like I've been looking for a comedy. I've been looking
for something funny. Everything I've been watching has been so
heavy and darklyly. I want to, like, I want to
put something on and giggle before you know, well, I
will check that out.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
Actually, yeah, it's a good one too, because it's like
you know, you know, it's a talk show, so there's
no like, there's no storyline, and it's just these famous
people talking about really random things. There's one about cruise
ships and stuff. It's amazing. It's highly highly recommend And
then I've been watching the rehearsal, which it's Nathan Fielder
who did Nathan for you, And it's so hard to
(15:23):
explaining the show because it's so fucking I can.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
See like as soon as you said Nathan Fielder, like
right when you said rehearsal, I was like, I know
this ship, but I haven't seen it.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
And I know nothing about it.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
So the first season, the second season just started coming out.
There's two episodes out, and the first season is basically
like he put out like a Craiglist ad and he
was He's trying to help people solve these problems. And
the first problem he ends up getting is that this
one guy, he's in a trivia bar league, and he
lied to his trivia team about having a master's degree
(15:53):
when he really only had a bachelor's degree. Now he's
been in this team and has had this lie for
like years at this point, but he wants to come
clean because he feels bad because he really likes these people,
but he's worried that this lie will ruin his friendship.
So what Nathan Fielders does is that he goes to
the bar where they have bar trivia. He recreates said
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bar on a studio lot, completely recreates it like one
to one, and then he has actors go meet with
the people that are on his trivia bar team, like randomly,
and they meet. The actors meet with these people so
they can act as those people, and then they go
through scenarios to find the best possible option of how
to approach this conversation, and that's the premise of the show.
He like helps people, and the rehearsal is them rehearsing
(16:36):
this thing, and then it becomes into this weird surrealism
kind of thing where you really can't tell what's real
and what's not and yeah, yeah it's insane, but it's insane.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Reminds me of Jerry Duty. Have you have you seen
anything on the okay?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Co I love that show?
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, same way where I'm like, wait, is real?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
What's not?
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Is this guy really being that's with this bad you know,
like yes.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Yeah, very similar to that, but way more uncomfortable okay
than that. And then the second season, the big starting
premise is that it's like some statistic about like plane
crashes and how he thinks the real problem of plane
crashes is because pilots and copilots have a problem with
(17:21):
communication with each other. So he's trying to find a
way in to solve this problem and it goes places
that like it's so insane. There's a thing that happens
in episode two that I cannot believe they like put
on they like HBO was like, yeah, that's fine, let
it go. Yeah, talks about another streaming service and it
(17:41):
puts them in the most insane light I have ever seen,
and I'm like, I can't believe they did this, Like
this is absolutely crazy. So I've just been telling people like,
go watch this show because it's I gave a little
elevator pitch, but like it doesn't even scratch the surface
of what the show does.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Yeah, and me with Delicious and Dungeon, I'll give my
little elevator pitch.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I'm like, yeah, it's kind of a cooking show kind
of a fan, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
And I'll be like, but you just got to go
watch it, and also you got to break the rules
and you gotta watch it in English because I said
so you just.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
Kind of take me from what I said. You know, yeah,
that show is absolutely insane. I just adore it because
he is the most like unaware but also aware person
I think of all time, Like he's fully like the
things he does is so awkwardly unaware, but he is
so like he's playing like like six D chess like
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it is fucked dude.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Like I seriously, an uncomfortable, awkward humor sometimes is my favorite,
you know, same, Just the long drawn out silence is
the human.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Experience of just very strange reactions. I'm like, better you
than me? I was thinking in my head, you know,
better you than me?
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh yeah. I sometimes I feel like I'm an awkward person.
Then I see things like that and I'm like, maybe
I'm not right.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, it builds my co you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
I'm like, man, I really said some weird things yesterday,
and then I'll put something on like that and I'm like, hey,
you know what, I'm not too bad. Okay, what I
said was pretty insightful.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Actually, I have been watching this other show too. It's
on Paramount Plus and it's called Mobland. It stars Tom Hardy,
Pierce Bras and Helen Mirren and it's basically this Irish
crime family in London, modern day London, and the goings
on of that family. But Guy Richie is a part
of it. And it's just a really really good show.
Everyone who I know is watching it has been has
been really into it, and it's cool to see Tom
(19:36):
Hardy do some shit that's not venom anymore, right, It's nice.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Paramount Plus is one that I think I'm missing a
lot of gems from there because I'm not subscribed to
Paramount Plus, and some people will, you know, randomly bring
up a show like this called It's on Paramount Plus
and I should get that.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
But how many streaming services do I want to subscribed?
I know That's that's the battle we all fince and I'm.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Getting confused at this point, Like Hulu and Disney Plus
Are they the same?
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Am I paying?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (20:09):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:10):
But moving on, we've we've you know, teased the and
or of it all, but Indoor dropped it came back
season two. It's first three episodes. Now each week is
going to be another three episodes. So by this by
the time this episode comes out, another three episodes have
already aired. And it's kind of like each chunk is
like a year in time. Well it takes place within
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a year, yeah, and it's kind of like a moment
in time from all of our characters as we go
on and obviously eventually lead to Rogue one. But before
we get into and Or specifically, I want to know
what your what was your journey with Star Wars? Like
what got you into Star Wars? I know you kind
of talked about how this kind of brought you back
into Star Wars and like kind of how you're feeling
about the state of Star Wars as a whole.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Yeah, my dad got me into Star Wars and it
very young age. And he was the type of dad
that would, you know, on weekends, he'd sit us down
and put on like two thousand one of Space Odyssey
and just like you know, he showed us all all
the classics, and Star Wars was one of them. And
so I must have been like ten, you know, and
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I was obsessed, obsessed.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And I watched it over and over and over again.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
And I remember I had like these encyclopedia, like I
wish I could find them. They were like these hardcover
encyclopedias of like how the blasters were made and what
their internal components were, and like what it would look
like if you took a lightsaber or par and you know,
it would talk about the different.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Races and species and stuff. And so I was all
in on Star Wars. And then I remember I got
a little older.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
I think, what was Phantom Menace two thousand and three?
Am I two thousand is something like that? I was like, yeah,
I was like thirteen or something, and people hated it.
But because I was thirteen, I was I loved it,
you know what I mean, I wasn't old enough to
be a critic. Yeah, I was having a ball so
and yeah, so I loved all three of those movies
as well.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You know, now that I am a little bit of
a critic, I can. You know, I do hate jar
Jar Banks and I you know, and like other things
like that.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
But those main movies were like my core, right, And
then Disney acquired them and they started branching off and
doing all these things. And I went and saw the
new movies and I remember leaving the first one being like,
what did I just watch? It was like it reminded
me of for me and not to you know, I
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know there's a lot of Star Wars fans out there,
but it seemed like it was like somebody like doing
a project on, like trying to imitate what Star Wars
was like, down to the transitions where they would do
like the screen wife and things like that.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
I'm like, I get what you're doing, but it just
wasn't there for me.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You know.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
The main characters were unbelievably overpowered for no reason, with
no training.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
You know, it was just it was just odd.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
It felt like a lot of fan service and I
think that people needed fan service.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
I didn't need fan service, but you know, the people
got it. And then the Mandalorian came out and I
can't even remember if I finished it. I watched a
lot of it, and I don't know if I finished it,
and only because I was watching it, and then I.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Left for tour, and when I came back, I just, yeah,
it like interrupted my whole cycle, do you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:21):
Yeah, I just I wasn't I wasn't feeling it. Rogue
one I thought was good, but this one again, the
way that it was so just like Ant. There's Ant.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
Everyone's an anti hero first off, and like it's showing
the disorganization of it all, and like how it wasn't
this perfect operation.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Like when we're first introduced to.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
The rebels in Star Wars, it was Leah, you know,
stealing the plans from the of the Death Star, you know,
right after Cassie and does this thing.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
And so from that point on, all.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
You're seeing is like this tunnel vision of like, okay,
we see we see these things every now and then,
but you don't know how we got to this point
or anything. So to see these like unwilling unruly anti
heroes who all just want to work for themselves kind
of begrudgingly all come together.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I was like, no, I'm into this. I'm into this.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
This isn't just a bunch of people starting out with
like special powers and like, you know, I picked up
a lightsaber and now I can use it and fight
this guy who's running the New Empire. It was more like, oh, no,
we're gonna lose, and we're gonna lose a lot, and
we have to do like really morally gray things, especially
because of Luthen.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
I loved it, and I love cyberpunk.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
It's like my favorite genre. And I feel like the
first season, especially, it was kind of cyberpunk to me.
It was very dyscopy and it was yeah, so yeah,
big Time got pulled in with this. That brought me
right back into Star Wars. And now it's like, now
I want to go back and watch all this stuff
I missed. I want to go rewatch the newer movies again,
but maybe a more open mind. You know, gotta go
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finish the Mandalorian. I'm like fully back in now.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
So I think there's one thing you definitely should check
out because I feel like it's like a good mix
of what and Or does and has that like fantastical
Star Wars stuff is Star Wars Rebels and it's animated,
but it's amazing, and it really just follows this main
cell of Star Wars Rebels as they go through in
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their journey. It ends up following one Jedi and his crew,
and then they end up picking up a kid and
he becomes Padawan, and it has probably one of the
emotionally resonent moments in all of Star Wars for me,
like straight up really crushed, like ruined me, like absolutely
ruined me. It has a lot of Darth Maull in it,
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Ahsoka's in it a fair amount, and mod Mathma's in it.
Like some of the stuff kind of connects where I
think during the place of and Or now I think
is during the place of Rebels. So these things are
all happening at this point, which is really just so cool.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Yeah, shows that off too, and like I shouldn't forget
his name, Nimick.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Nimick.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
From the first he says something where he's like he
gives this monologue where he's just like the rebellion is everywhere,
the rebellion is little pockets of unorganized people making the
smallest incremental ste and like that.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
I don't know something about that. I was like, no,
that's that's right.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
That's how this like rebellion started, was just people didn't
even know there was a rebellion.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It was just groups of people who had enough and
eventually united.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And I'm curious to see, you know, the first couple
episodes that have come out of this new season all
seem very political, and they seem very drawn out, and
I'm hoping they move this along a little bit, and
I think they will.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
I think they will.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
I think they're trying to give that sense of like, hey,
this goes all the way to the top, you know
what I mean, especially with like my Mathma coming back
in and like the Senate and the Investment's failing and
people kind of shaking their fear. I don't know, I
see what they're doing, but I would like to get
back to the rebels on the ground a.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Little bit more.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
You know, from when I've heard of my friends who've
seen all of the season, they're like, it just continues
to ramp up from here.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Okay, Cassian, you know, landing and fight, Like seeing that
group of disorganized rebels, you know, and kind of getting
caught up and stuff. I think they needed to do
that to delay him showing up at the right moment,
but unnecessary to me, I think, yeah, that was like, hey,
we've been hinting that the rebels are a little disorganized,
but like, now let's just throw it in everyone's face
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for half an episode.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
But you know, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
That was my biggest nitpick of these first three is
that I felt like that whole section could have been
sped up. For sure, Yes, because exactly it's like, you
get what they're saying. They talk about how their leader's gone,
and now their leader's gone, everything's going to shit, and
it's like, okay, yeah, we get it. The coolest revelation
about that that whole planet is that it's you Haven
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four and we know, like the primary base of like
the rebel alliance. So that's cool. And obviously they do
a lot of work where they need to be and
I'm pretty sure around the time. But what I loved
about the beg, what had me so stoked, was that
that opening scene of seeing Cassion in that empire like
testing pilot facility, and that like little speech he gives
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where he's like, the empire cannot win. You'll never feel
right unless you're doing what you kind of stop them.
You're coming home to yourself. You've become more than your fear.
And while he's saying it to you know, this new
like rebel recruit, like he's saying it to himself too,
because that was like the whole journey of season one
where he was like reluctant against this cause and then
as he like kind of became like a cog in
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the system, he realized that's the only option. He has.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, that prison change, that prison break gave me goose fun.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
That shit is the best. And the person directing the
second chunk of episodes, the guy did those so I.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Oh cool, cool, Yeah that was done so it could
have been so tacky. O.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, they did it.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
They did it well. They really came up with, like, how.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Could these guys actually tactically get out of this maximum
security prison that's floating in the water, and then they
made it realistic. Like I mean, truthfully, those were probably
the only two people who made.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
It out of the one hundreds who jumped off.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
You know, yeah, I mean I can't really see any
other scenarios or anyone else made it off that.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Unless they also found random aliens with the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Poor Andy character, I can't swim after giving the most
epic monologue of all time, I.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
Try, I was like, no, try, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I think if someone was yelling at me like I
can't swim, like just I've lived the human experience and
if you throw yourself into water, your boy, you know
what I mean, You're not gonna You're gonna You're gonna
flip on your back and do a little backstrokeer you know,
doggy paddle. You might be going slower, you might not
be able to freestyle out of there, but I'm confident
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he could have kept himself his head of the water.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
We all saw the return of Krenick, Yes, and obviously
he's very integral to what happens in Rogue one. But
seeing him talk about Gorman, which kudos who ever made
that Gorman commercial, because I couldn't believe what I was
watching in a Star Wars series, I was like, this
is insane.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
They do a good job of like crazy.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
The Star Wars universe was created with that, like like
the eighties tech vibe, you know what I mean? With
scam everything's just very old, and they're doing a good
job of being like, no, this is sci fi. We've
expanded into this, guys. This is like you know, I
guess it's technically a long long time ago, but it's
just the tech is I don't know, they've kept it
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retro while still and so I felt like that translated
into this commercial as well, like it almost gave like
Fallout vibes, you.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Know what I mean. Oh yeah, I gave like Fallout vibes.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I really liked that, and just the way they explained
it and like the spiders, the way they animated it
and showed it all happening.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
I was like, this is very cool, amazing.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Because I think if that was dumb with just dialogue,
my eyes probably would have glazed over a little bit.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
If they're like, oh, there's these spiders and they have
you know this and Silk out to Malaya whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
And I'm I'm excited to see his journey throughout this
season of and and Or and him obviously getting to
what eventually will be the Death Star and everything like that,
and it's cool to see him and Dedra kind of
like like the universe of the Empire brought them together
to work together as two just like terrible people. But
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Dedra and Cyril I did okay, so obviously they kind
of elude them kind of getting together at the end
of season one, and that kind of like left my brain.
And then when I saw the scene of them together
like getting ready, I was like, oh shit, they're like yeah,
the other together, okay, wild And it's such a weird
thing because you kind of had this I don't know
(32:08):
if like hatred more like dislike in season one, but
seeing them as a couple, it made me like them
a lot more.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
They humanize them.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yeah, And he was like she stood up to her
his mother.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
Yes. I was like, wow, what a good partner. I
was like, damn, she is like there for her, man,
let's go.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
She's picking up on what's going on. She's like, oh
I see now, I see. You know, I see where
that came from. Let me quell that real quick.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, I can believe it.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
And you know, they did a great job with his
character because they they make you not like him, but
they make you not like him in like an infantile
like a like a childish way, like even down to
the little things where like I don't know if you noticed.
But in the first season, every time he's eating, he's
like eating cereal and it looks like children cereal, like
a wooden spoon, and it's just he's just very you know,
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he has his breakdown. He's just on the bed, like
in the fetal position and kind of giving like Homelander
vibes a little bit like Mommy as she vibes.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
But yeah, she picks up on that. I just shuts it.
I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
She was so unlikable and that I'd love when someone's
so unlikable because that means they're doing their job very
well as an actor actress. But yeah, I'm curious to
see where they're gonna take that, because I have a
feeling they're gonna make us like them and then we're.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Gonna be like, you know, like, yeah, I feel like
they're gonna be pick up against other people. We like him,
we're gonna be very torn.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah, Which that's good writing. That's good writing. And I
just want to point out the bed thing, which is
obviously the best reaction beam of all time now, is
that that was totally improved by the actor.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Oh man, that's great. He's living in the head.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, And the actor who played Dedra didn't see it
because she's obviously off camera in the other room, and
she just kind of remarked of how the director was
so happy with what he did, and then when she
eventually saw the episode, she's like, wow, that is incredible.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
It was such a just like you poor just like
I don't know, I saw him in that position, and
I was like, what happened to that man in the
uniform who was like the umpire security is ulmost, Like
you just see this like manchild just laying on this
not even not yeah, not even the fetal position. That
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was just like my body went limp here.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
And I'm just gonna pure defeat, utter defeat. Yeah. And
it's like that. I think that's why he's so authoritative
in a place where he has just a little bit,
like the tiniest bit of power is because that's the
one place where he's like, yeah, he's like he's confident
and he knows that he has that shred of power there,
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so he kind of takes advantage of that. And you know,
it's because when he's with these like female figures that
he like obviously looks up to, he's like submissive to
them because that's how he was raised. He was raised
in a home that was like obviously not great and
that has affected him. And yes's such a cool thing
for Star Wars to even to.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Touch on what and do it in a way that's
not They've touched on things that have been heavy, you
know what I mean, a few things that I wasn't
expecting in the Star Wars universe.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
But they're doing it in a way that isn't making
me uncomfortable, you know what I mean. It's nothing. They're
just handling things well. And if something is way too heavy,
they're doing it off screen, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (35:41):
I mean they did handle something really heavy in these
episodes two. Yeah, yeah, in the Planet where Bis and
Brasso they're kind of hiding out waiting for Cassie and
of course be to Emo, the best droid. I love
him so much. I love him. He breaks me.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Sad. Why is it always the inanimate like like the
non humans that I'm always.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Like, oh, every he's like where is he in? And
I'm like, kill me y this is And I.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Think I know what you're referencing the scene that you're
going to reference and yeah, that's kind of what I'm.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
Talking of course, And this is kind of I don't
even want to say it's controversial, because the people that
have talked about it of why it exists have had
very good answers for it, and I think it is
kind of important. It's like, obviously Star Wars is based,
you know, it's it's faster, you know it's and how
it starts exactly, and there's even like Nazi iconography kind
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of references, like with crenics like overlook thing to things
that like Hitler had and stuff like that. Tony Gilroy
is a massive history nerd, and the reason this show
feels so relevant and topical is because history is doomed
to repeat itself for all fucking etunity. And why it's
even more depressing to watch because like, wow, this guy
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we're going through now that sucks is because that's just
what happens. It just keeps a cycle of the same
fucking shit forever because human beings are flawed and that's
just how it is. And when we see this officer
of the empire try to take advantage of bicks, try
to sexually assault her people, saying like there's no place
for that in Star Wars. It's like that that exactly
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is what Star Wars is trying to point out is
stuff I think.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
So yeah, And I think that's one of those things
where that stuff absolutely was happening against Star Wars, but
it was happening off screen, you know what I mean.
And this is and or, and this is specifically giving
us a yeah, and this is giving us a glimpse
at not the heroes, not the Jedi, not that these
are the people on the ground, these are the peasants,
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these are the people that the Empire thinks are subhuman,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And they're It's just it's a different take.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
I'm glad that they didn't go full force into it,
like it got a little heavy, but I didn't have to,
like you know, normally with those types of scenes, like
sometimes I'll just fast forward like I know it's about
to happen, Like I don't need this to drag on
for ten minutes. But they ended it in a way
that was they proved their point and you know, they
moved along. But yeah, that one, that one caught me
(38:11):
by surprise. It's definitely giving me the vibe that we're
headed somewhere where the show could get dark, and you know,
I'm looking at Cyril and like you said, this submissive thing,
I think that man is in a perfect position to
be manipulated into doing sure horrible. So I think that
we're gonna end up, you know, like we did say
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we like them now, but something is gonna happen. I
think we're gonna end up hating her again because we're
gonna start seeing her manipulating him and he's gonna do
some some shit that is gonna leave us very queasy,
I think.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
And it's this show is very interesting because it's crazy
because I feel like a lot of the projects that
are like big ip things, it seems like the stuff
that people have. When it got announced or whatever, people
kind of hated on them. They're like, who wants to
see a show about the guy that we know that
dies of Rogue one? And then it comes out and
everyone's like, holy shit, this is amazing. Same thing with
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like Agatha all Along from Marvel or Thunderbolts is coming out.
Everyone a got announced, like who wants this? And now
it's getting reviewed as one of the best movies since Endgame?
And it's like when you put the right people behind
the camera, whether it's you know, writing, director, everything like that.
It's like, and you put out a good story, people
are gonna connect it no matter what it is. And
that's what those projects have been doing. And it's like
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the show is perfect example. And but I think the
thing I love about it is because the show still
has stakes, because it's making you fall in love with
all these other characters that obviously are on the chopping block,
because as we see in Rogue one, we don't see
any other characters other than Krenik obviously at this point. Yeah,
so it's like you're like, and seeing Brasso go in
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this first arc, you know, you're like, fuck, that dude
was Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Let's talk about that. He was the best dude.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Several times I got goosebumps during his scenes. This is
early Walking Dead spoilers, but I'm just gonna say them
in case someone's like, oh, I just started season one,
so like you know what, I felt like, Yeah, you
know what, I just you know, in case of someone
out there. It felt like when they killed off Carl
off screen, like when he got bit off screen, how
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are you gonna?
Speaker 2 (40:19):
I don't I love Andre. I love everything about it.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
How are you gonna Unless I blinked, he got shot
off screen, he got on that speeder, he started speeding away.
By the time Cassian finds him, he's dead. And I
was just like Batman deserved to take his blaster shot
on camera, you know what I mean, Like, I don't
know if they cut it for a time, and I
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was like, you did not just kill him off screen?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
I guess it's for the shock of Cassian landing and
being like.
Speaker 1 (40:48):
No, I thought you saw him get shot.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Maybe I must have, maybe I blinked through it, but
I am I thought that it just showed them missing
him a bunch, and then being like, oh, of.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Course he got away. It's stars and then Cassie and
coming in seeing that trail and be like, oh, no,
they got him.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
But maybe I'll go back and watch. But I you know,
I didn't see the blaster hit. Let us know.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
If you actually and I just I don't know, Like
I love how the stakes are there for anyone's fair game.
I have a bad feeling that Bix is gonna die
before the end of this, I know, and destroy me.
She's already not getting.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
Any better, Like yeah, it's like she is falling apart,
and I'm just like, every time I see her, I'm
just like this, this is so sad.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
But to me, it's like there's some like weird form
of hope because obviously when the officer was trying to
assault her, she fought back and she eventually won. She
killed the guy, and that shows her like resolve and
her strength and her willingness to be a part of
this cause, be a part of this rebellion, and that,
to me, I was like, wow, like that showing that
even in the face of adversity, even in the face
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of so much trauma, you can still rise above that
for a greater good. And it's like the ending of
these three episodes is heartbreaking, it hopeful, it's like a
weird and even like the mod moth and stuff a
which we haven't really talked about, yeah, which shout out
to Star Wars for starting a scene with a wonner,
Like I couldn't believe what I was watching. I was like,
are they doing a wonder right now? Star Wars is
(42:24):
doing a wonder? What the fuck is happening? Like I
was losing my shit and to see what she has
to do with because it's like, obviously she did this
arrange marriage so she could fund the empire or fund
the rebellion, and you know, she's sacrificing everything she loved
in her life to make sure that like future generations
will have a hope that she won't even see maybe exactly,
(42:47):
and to see her kind of let loose and dance
at this wedding to one fit in and make it
seem like, you know, she's status quo mom at a wedding,
but it's like almost like her farewell to her life.
It's like the last chance she can finally be like
free from anything. And that is so many people were like,
(43:08):
why is she dancing? And I'm like, it's so devastating,
what are you talking about.
Speaker 2 (43:11):
I had goosebumps. I had goose bumps during the dancing scene.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
It's just like it's another one of those scenes that
pulls me into the universe and I'm like, oh no,
these are like real people, like yeah, and it's just
like they're having a good time and they're letting loose
and you just remind me of the scene from like
Zion and the Matrix, you know, where it's Yeah, it's
just very like m just I don't know it wasn't
what I was expecting because it started off and I
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was like, this is stupid.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
When they're doing like the little ballroom dance, I'm like,
this is dragging on. And then it came into that
and I was like, this is this is so cool,
you know, and I kind of liked it too.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
Because it's like they're on the the planet of Chandrilla
and they're showing all these like customs that we like
really haven't seen the Star Wars before, and it was like,
even though they're not they're not explaining it. They're showing.
They're doing very show not tell, which I love that. Yeah,
and I love that You're just like you're kind of
just getting engrossed in this like new culture we haven't
really seen in Star Wars, and they're not overly explaining it.
They're just kind of showing it to you. And I
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was like, Wow, how fucking cool.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
And that's hard to do.
Speaker 3 (44:12):
It's hard to do because, like I said earlier, I'm
a dungeon master and I never follow like modules and dragons.
Speaker 2 (44:18):
I always write my own stories for my players, and
it is it's such a hard thing to write.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
It's so hard to build lore without specifically showing it,
you know, or just yeah, or without it's like without
specifically telling it's just like in hearing ambient things happening too.
I love getting a key piece of info from a
TV someone's walking past, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
I love that type of like, oh did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (44:48):
You know, like a little radio chatter that they don't
even really like they're not panning in the camera at
the radio.
Speaker 2 (44:52):
It's just someone walking by in here in today's news
rebel soldiers, you know, you're like, Oh, something's happening.
Speaker 1 (44:58):
Love that that. I love that much. And that's kind
of the main points of what happened in the in
these first three episodes. But I wanted to know, like,
what are you looking forward to to the rest of
the season. We got three more weeks of and and Or,
I will say, three episodes, and they're like I've always
described as and Or as like it's basically an HBO show.
(45:19):
It just happens to be Star Wars, Like that's the vibe,
that's the quality, that's the vibe. Everything is like that.
But like watching three episodes, I didn't even finish the
three episodes in one night because it's like no, it's
I'm on the East Coast. I watched like two and
a half and I was like, I'm gonna go to bed.
I'll finish that.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
I'm on the East Coast too, And yeah, I did
the same.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
I literally just I've been so busy that I watched
the first two episodes and I that third episode it
took me a while to come to and I just
finished it, like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
A lot. It's like three hours of content almost.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
I'm excited to see possibly how they construct the Death
Star in well, let me think of the time we're
off for Bby is what it is, b y y
b b y bby Bby and the Death Star is
i mean completely being built. Yeah, five years later, it's
(46:13):
already the battles happening, right like or am I?
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Yeah? Like the year Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:19):
So I'm wondering when they're gonna start showing it, when
they're gonna start showing that stuff off. I actually thought
in that meeting when they showed the commercial gonna it
was gonna show it was gonna be the Death Star blueprints?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Did you really?
Speaker 1 (46:33):
Okay? I think we're eventually gonna get there. That's gonna
be like the committee that does it. I don't know.
If you in the post credit scene of season one,
they show like they show you that what Cassium was
building in the prison was components of the death Star,
which is there was a credit cart breaking.
Speaker 3 (46:50):
Yeah, I didn't see the post credit scene. I didn't
know there was a post credit scene that was so.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Long ago too, that was I don't know when the
post credit scene shows that what they were building in
the prison, which a lot of people guessed is that
they were building parts of the Death Star, and they
show what it goes to and they show the construction
of it, so it's like it was in construction even
at the end of season one. So I am guessing
we will get to that point too, where we'll see
different stages of the Death Star and like we'll see
(47:16):
Krenic start to like formulate his task force of the
Death Star, and so.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
It's already understruction then and they're not just gonna whip
this thing together in three or four years.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
I don't know their technology, but the Death Star seems
to be an undertaking to build, you know, you think
about the prison sequences, they're just building like weird components
that are just like you know, like just a little
building block of said Death Star, Like it's insane.
Speaker 1 (47:44):
I didn't think about that. They showed Death Star components.
Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he he helped create the thing he.
Speaker 6 (47:53):
Needs to destroy destroys as George Lucas will saying, it's
it's it's poetry right yeah, A man, it's so wild.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
It's cool to see.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Yeah, some of the the I'm curious to see who
else they involve, you know, I know that they just
mentioned the Emperor.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
I wonder if they'll bring him back. They seem to
bring him back in every every.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
Single trial, Like this is the one where he won't
be in it since the.
Speaker 3 (48:19):
Mom where he's finally not on screen. Palpatine has come
back from the dead what five times? Though? No like
having my Mathma there, even though she's just got some
smaller parts in the new stuff. Like, I don't know,
just I'm wondering how many of those legacy characters we're
going to start seeing at that we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (48:37):
See any of them, That's what I'm wondering.
Speaker 3 (48:39):
Are they just gonna do this all from the the Like,
is this going to be a story where we see
how the rebellions started and we see it from the
view of all the rebels who don't get to see
what the rebellion causes, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (48:53):
Like, yeah, I think that's what's kind of going on.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
We get to see that generation of people who are like, no,
we're fighting for something for the next generation and most
of us are gonna die and not see this.
Speaker 2 (49:04):
But it's better than living under whatever iron Fists were
living under right now. And again, like what you would
have known this more than me.
Speaker 3 (49:13):
The Jedi have already been around for what twenty five
thousand years at this point, Like what are they doing
right now?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
They're all hiding because it or sixty six Okay, okay,
that's it, Okay, not really existing being killed off by inquisitors.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, so, from what I understand, like the Empire spent
all this time studying like how to kill the Jedies
while the Jedies were kind of just like doing their thing.
And then that's how that's kind of like the reason
behind how they were able to lose so bad.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
But yeah, the one the one thing I'm hoping that's
and I don't think it'll be a cameo, but I
hope there's a mention is that Sokatano's like code name
for the rebellion was full Chrum. So if they say
the word fulcrum, I'm gonna lose it. That would be
awesome because even the rebels this this is sort of
(50:08):
a spoiler for rebels. I guess you see them interacting
with Foulkrum and then you eventually find out it's Soakano
and everyone's like, oh shit.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's so awesome.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
But I don't think she's gonna show up in this.
Like Tony Yuroy is is very much like he's a
Star Wars nerd, but he's not like a Superstar Wars nerd,
and like they have a team that kind of does
the Star Wars things with the show to make sure
it all is like makes sense, and you know, there
is those tie ins and things like that. But this
is not like the cameo. This isn't the Mandalorian, you know, yeah,
(50:37):
the cameo thing.
Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, the Mandalorian was very cameo.
Speaker 3 (50:42):
I think that's what kind of made me like I
was into it, but it was more like I'm not like,
you know, super I get it pulled into it.
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Yeah, this is a different level of storytelling, but that's
my hope. That's my hope is there's there's a Fulcrum
reference in somewhere in the Rebellion. I would love that.
If not, I'm fine because I love what they're doing
and I'm very excited to see how the season continues
to progress.
Speaker 2 (51:07):
I think, I think, I don't I don't want to
see jedies, but I would like to hear him rig. Yeah,
there's just yeah, there's nothing making.
Speaker 1 (51:15):
There's like you know, there's like like right right after
this is where Luke becomes a thing and he's like
the lone Jedi. He's not the only Jedi. Like Ahsoka's
out there. Calcasses from the video games is out there.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (51:30):
Yeah, it's so hard to keep the timeline straight with
how everything releases different, but you're right, Yeah, everyone goes,
even the ones that don't die just going to exile.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Yeah, like Obi Wan's chilling on Taine right now, Yoda.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yoda's an exile.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yoda's on Diego Ba chilling, which, by the way, if
we just want to throw it back, the scene where
Yoda finally pulls out his lightsaber and starts flipping all
around and does his battle scene the ship.
Speaker 3 (51:55):
The moment when my childhood eyes saw that, I was
just like, good, that will stick with me for the
rest of my life. Yeah, and I need to bring
that up on this podcast because just like you just
never see like who.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Is this old green creature?
Speaker 3 (52:11):
And then suddenly I was like, oh no, this makes sense,
Like seeing the lightsaber like spinning like that with him
in the air, I'm like.
Speaker 2 (52:18):
Oh my gosh, the best We need a Yoda show.
We need a show that would be insane.
Speaker 1 (52:25):
Yoda show would be He's in a lot of Clone Wars. True, yeah,
he's in a good amount of Clone. But dude, thank
you so much for taking your time talking to some
Star Wars with me. This is great.
Speaker 2 (52:34):
Yeah. Absolutely, thanks for having me. That was fantastic, No.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
No problem at all. More than happy to have you
back anytime anything. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (52:43):
But before we got here, please plug what you got
going on musically, where people can find you, let people
know what's up.
Speaker 2 (52:49):
Yeah, definitely you can find me and make it really easy.
The name is is it?
Speaker 3 (52:52):
Josh one Word? I am a post hardcore and metal
court artist who grew up playing in all the bands
and now I'm doing a solo project it's a little
post hardcore, a little poppy.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I'm trying to bring in that that angsty.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Post hardcore metal core vibe into like pop music. So
we'll see how it goes and bending some genres here. Yeah,
you can find me anywhere.
Speaker 2 (53:14):
Is it Josh? Is it Josh dot Com? Is it Josh?
On Spotify, Apple Music, TikTok, Instagram, Ulsha Bang.
Speaker 3 (53:20):
Got a new album coming out May thirtieth and hitting
the road to play a couple of cities in June.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
So that's the plan.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
Amazing, And I'll make sure and link everything down below
so you can go down there and check it. Even
though you made it goodly easy for you. That's I try.
Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, I try.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
Is it Josh Spotify the dj X, you know, like what,
let's listen to what he calls me. I sit Josh,
which is a little disappointing, but.
Speaker 2 (53:44):
No like I s but whatever, we'll get it. And
it used to say is it Josh?
Speaker 3 (53:50):
And there must have been an update in there, because
now I says, I sit Josh, It is Josh.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
Hardy merch with you just say and then that's like
my buddy in front of it.
Speaker 3 (53:59):
I had a friend who thought it was like alex
Is on fire. Oh yeah, it's one of those scenarios,
you know.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
Damn damn. I sit Josh dot com everyone check me out.
Debut album coming. I love sitting. I'm doing it right now.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, you know who doesn't love sitting. If you want
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