Brandon Kemp of Fox Lake

Hot off their new album New World Heat, Brandon Kemp of Fox Lake joins Sean to chat about Spider-Man: Brand New Day, Weapons, what makes a good horror movie and Fox Lake's dream tour.

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Speaker 2 (00:59):
About that, I wanted to over the most positive popular
the podcast in the multiverse, No corn Nerds. With each episode,
I have a guest from the podcast. In your music view,
we talk about the latest and greatest in entertainment, Ira
Sean Mott, and my co host this episode is Brandon
of Fox Lake. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Thank you so much. I am very honored to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I am honed to have you here. You know, member
of the TikTok sensation Fox Lake. That ross I've been
holding on to that one for a bit.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
This is our legacy.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hey man, that's that's a that's the perfect wave to ride.
It really is.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm definitely not complaining. It is just so funny because
we had had a TikTok for however long, and then
we you know, you can look like you can see
we've posted maybe fourteen fifteen times in the past like
five years. It's like next to nothing, and they all
have like two hundred likes, and then for no reason
at all, we post a clip of the song and

(01:57):
it's like, you know, a million views or whatever, a
bit like whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
It's that now.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
It's crazy, dude, It's awesome. I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, God bless the algorithm.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
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get into the pop culture talk, we're gonna kick off

(02:26):
the show like we do every single week, with the
Metal corn Nerds Song of the Week. Song of the
Week this week is from Downswing. This is their latest single,
For what It's Worth.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
If I got Josh, I don't.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
So sorry jobs, so class goes to the mirror. Could
you be playing on my last night?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
JAMAI so this name? I guess that sound my jobs?
Just so yours? My good job?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Your job?

Speaker 6 (03:33):
So I think it's everything. James crossing crowd baby ju
just s more?

Speaker 5 (03:55):
I go myself.

Speaker 6 (04:05):
Sigh supply the last jam Way.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
What exactly?

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Round start from star saying just got stop with Joe
just suck. It's great joys.

Speaker 7 (04:28):
That's I tried as a still you lie, I rise?

Speaker 5 (04:36):
I was, I just found out fay. Let's say any way,
why I stop has.

Speaker 6 (04:51):
A last.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
These waves couldn't talk what they say your dot on
me anyway now, So quit broken number, Yes a prety.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
Fed even one.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
Yallagata not think for something mean.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
A man, But.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
I can't fire you.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Just that somewhere dress to Swallow drops.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Again. That was Downswing with their latest single, for what
It's Worth. They're from around me. I've known these guys forever.
I used to book them when I was a booking agent.
I filled in for them on a tour. I love
these guys. They just signed Monarch Heavy. They have a
new album and Everything Was Dark, coming out October twenty fourth,
So make sure you go pre order that, pre save
it all the necessary stuff to help them. And they're

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gonna be touring a lot this fall. They're touring with
He His Legend, and then they're touring again with the
Great American Ghosts after that. So odds are they're gonna
come near you, So go see them. Really awesome band,
really awesome dudes. And for more music recommenations, you can
check out the Milk Corners pull a Spotfy playlist. You
can find the direct link in the show notes below. Brandon,

(06:50):
do you want to ask you a little music thing?
I want to manifest together with this so You guys
have done some cool stuff as a band already. You know,
we've been very lucky, but I think it's only going
to continue to grow. Like I talked about the TikTok stuff.
You guys just had a new awesome album come out.
You guys are playing some more fests and everything like that.
So as things continue to grow for you as a band,

(07:10):
what is your dream tour line up for Fox Like
to be an opener.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
For Foxke opening. I. Yeah, we've gotten this before and
it changes every time. It was a tour that happened.
But if it could be Foxlake, Run the Jewels, Rade Chance,
the Machine like that, damn, that's my dream scenario as
far as like like they they did that tour and

(07:37):
I can't remember who else opened actually, if it was
just the two of them and I was we were
out on tour when it came through Denver and so
I couldn't go. But dude, like one of the craziest
things in the world, And if we could be a
part of that, that's like the dream.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Moving into pop culture stuff, I want to know kind
of the thing that got you into TV and movies,
whether it be when you were a kid or maybe
we're a little bit older, but like, what's it's kind
of the thing that like sparked that love for you.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Honestly, I'm not sure where like the like the initial
kind of like moment is. I know when I was young,
I my ADHD was so bad that I was just
really struggling in school, and so my parents were fighting
to figure out ways to like help me stay motivated
because I just could not. I wasn't turning in homework,
I wasn't doing any assignments. I just was really like

(08:25):
I couldn't make myself do it. And so we found
a comic book shop like down the street that sold
like collections of comics you could get, you know, five
for a dollar or whatever it was, and and so
they basically we set up this system that was like
for every a plus on my report card or whatever.

(08:47):
I think it was just as like as long as
I wasn't failing, like for each for each good grade
or each not missed homework assignment or whatever it was,
because I don't even this is elementary school, so it's
not like they're like, you know, really work about percentages.
It's like gold star or like you know, black dot,
but for every every positive indication in whatever form, I

(09:08):
would get a comic book and it was always Spider Man,
and so I was I was like a die hard
Spider Man fan, and so I was reading through all
these things, and then that got me into x Men
because Spider Man had a couple of crossovers with the
X Men. So then I started getting X Men comics
and then like you know, that only lasted for maybe

(09:28):
a year, just to establish some good habits, and then
after that I was just buying my own comic books
and then eventually got into like the novels.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
And all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
And this is all pre you know, cinematic universe. So
it was just it was just through you know, super
dorky books and and graphic novels and the comics and
stuff like that. And then you know, eventually that's also
video games and then it turns into the movies and
stuff like that. So but yeah, I think that's kind
of where it started. Again, I don't really know why

(09:58):
that was the that was the thing, but like so
there had to be some interest in Spider Man to
begin with, but that's really where it kind of like
took off.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
That's so sick. That's awesome. It's kind of different than
I think any I've asked this question to a lot
of people, and that's a cool one that is kind
of like a reward system, Yeah, to help you focus
in school. So big Spider Man guy, I'm guessing favorite
live action Spider Man. Who do you got?

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Ooh? Are we saying Spider Man or Peter Parker or both?
But like, like as a unit, ye, whole package. I'm
gonna go Tom Holland, which might be a hot take.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think I agree.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
I think Andrew Garfield is the best Spider Man. I
think Toby maguire is the best Peter Parker. But I
think Tom Holland splits the splits the difference. I think
he's got the best of both worlds.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
I totally agree and pretty much all those things I like.
I feel like Garfield's Peter Parker was so tonally weird
for me, like it didn't mix. But his Spider Man
stuff is god tear stuff. Yeah, it's I rewatched, Like
I think every Spider Man movie leading up to No
Way Home and and just the Spider Man scenes with

(11:09):
Garfield are fucking so good when he's saving that like
kid and his parent in the car and it's like
hanging off the bridge. I'm like, oh my god, it's amazing,
it's so good stuff. I just think he was kind of,
you know, put in movies that didn't quite fully mesh
tonally and the story was kind of fine. Yeah, I

(11:32):
really I think that they.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Were really fighting to get him, like they were wanting
it to feel different than the Toby Maguire stuff, which
I get because you don't want to just put out
more of the same movie, especially like that recently, because
wasn't it like like Sam Rainey spider Man three was
like two or three years before the Injrew Garfield. It
was like right around the same time.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Yeah, do you know the crazy story about that? No
hit me amazing. Spider Man one was supposed to be
Spider Man four. It was slated like what Rami like wrote,
spider Man four, and they pulled the rug out from
under them because Spider Man three was not accepted very well,
although I think it made a ton of money still,
but yeah, you know, obviously, like no one really likes

(12:16):
spider Man three, and which is funny because it's Sony's
fault is why people don't like Spider Man three. Because
They're the people who were like, put vitamin in it,
and he's like, I don't want to put vinament. They're like,
we don't care put him in anyway.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
And they just they just shoehorned this whole other thing
into a.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
Movie that was they were about to like shoot it,
and then they like announced you, oh, yeah, Andrew Grafford's
new Spider Man. People were like, what what do you mean? So, yeah,
that's yeah, Sony like has done some dirty stuff, like.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
I and and obviously I'm sure you specifically have talked
to Griffith about it. Like, there are some people who
are dive hards for the Andrew Garfield stuff, and again,
I think that there is so much good in there,
but I think it's overall Sony just is such a
mess and for some reason just can't seem to figure
it out. And like, but yeah, I think I think

(13:05):
the Andrew Garfield as Spider Man had the best kind
of like you know, he's kind of like equipping and
he's making he's making jokes, but it didn't feel as
you know, silly, which like is not necessarily a fair
comparison because Sam Raimi stuff is so inherently like over
the like campy and almost tongue in cheek. So it's like, I, yeah,

(13:27):
it's hard to compare the two, but but yeah, I
just feel like Tom Holland. I haven't loved all the
MCU Spider Man stuff like at you know, Sight Unseen,
but like there's it's clearly like the best delivered and
like in the best package, I feel like, and Tom
Holland is just so good. None of that includes a
Spider Verse. I feel like all my criticisms of Sony

(13:51):
are I'm like, but like this, it's like a totally
separate conversation because I think Spider Verse is the best
of any Spider project.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like, yeah, Spider Versus an absolute nominally. Like I remember
going seeing the first one just because I was like, oh,
an Aman's Spider Man movie, that'll be fun to see,
and then I walked out being like what the fuck
was that?

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Like, dude, what was that? Absolutely like perfect film, Like
rare praise, but like I that's a movie that I
wouldn't change a single moment, Like all the animation is perfect,
all of the writing is perfect, all of the like
everything about it is absolutely flawless. The second one I
kind of have to wait until seeing the third one

(14:32):
to be able to criticize it, because right now it
feels a little bit unfinished, which is obviously the point.
But like, yeah, dude, I just I think that that
is like as good as Spider Man can get.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
Yeah, it's unbelievable stuff, Like truly truly unbelievable stuff. This
is that this this was not planned. But this is
the perfect segue into I did want to talk I
haven't talked about the new Spider Spider Man brand news
day stuff on the show at all, so I wanted
to talk about it a little bit because there's been
so much news that has come out about it. John
Burnhal's returning as the Punisher, Mark Ruffalo's returning is the

(15:06):
home Scorpions coming back from the Homecoming post credits scene.
Severance's Tremel Tillman has been cast as some villain that
we don't know who he is as Jackie Chan's stunt
team is working on this movie. What Yes, And I
already knew the action of this movie is gonna be
in acredible because Destinil Kretin is directing this movie. He

(15:28):
directed shung Chi, which obviously the action in that movie
is the highest level Yeah, they're gonna be in an
MCU movie. And all of these set photos and set
videos we're seeing like they're doing like practical explosions and
practical web swinging, and the new costume, which is pretty
much the same costume as the end of Noway Home.

(15:50):
There's like a couple of different things, and it's like
all inspired by every generation of Spider Man. That's even
like written in the script at the end of No
Way Home is that his new sue is inspired by
Toby and Andrews Spiderman, which is super fucking cool and
every like the only thing we know is that they've
finally kind of came out and be like, this is
the this is the movie that we set up after

(16:12):
No Way Home. It's going to be a street level
Spider Man. There's obviously kind of a lot of characters
involved with this. Florence Pugh has been rumored to return
as Jolena Bolova in this movie, which makes a lot
of sense. She's lead to New Avengers, New Vendors are
in New York City. It's to connect the universe, after all,
like these people should be here. A lot of people
are hoping obviously Daredevil shows up, especially with Matt Murdoch

(16:32):
being in No Way Home and Punisher being involved. We
hope our red guy is in there somewhere, and just
everything about this movie feels so innately special and that's
so awesome. The way they're marketing this. They're putting out
like behind the scenes featurettes and it's you know, they're
still filming it and stuff like that. The hype around
it feels like very No Way Home E in a

(16:54):
lot of ways. Like remember everyone waiting for that first trailer,
Like everyone was so like out of their minds stoked,
Like people are freaking out over set photos and stuff
like it. It's it's, yeah, there's.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Somebody's blurry like cell phone picture of Andrew Garfield or
or whoever it was, and everyone's like like the crossover
and everyone's like they're also going back and forth be
like no, no, no, like this is this is photoshopped.
This is fake, and like there was just this big
back and forth debate and so when it finally, you know,
when he steps through the portal in the theater, everyone's

(17:25):
like throwing hopcorn, just absolutely losing it. Dude's so cool.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (17:31):
Yeah that the new one does feel like I'm I'm
slightly nervous, but I trust that for the reasons that
you're saying, like I think, if you try to cram
too much into it, you kind of run the risk
of getting the same problem that people have had with
the MCU, where it's like, okay, you have to have
watched Daredevil and Punisher and Thunderbolts and like it's the

(17:55):
same issue that people have had for a long time.
And also if you have too many characters and you
can't really focus on any of them because everyone's competing
for you know, there's only an hour and a half
or two hours like whatever it have. There's only so
much screen time that you can provide, and so you
can't really like let anyone specifically shine and really dig
into that. But for all of the reasons, it does

(18:18):
seem like they're kind of getting back to the idea.
And this is one of the things that, like I
was saying, there's a lot of MCU stuff that for
Spider Man that I feel like they kind of lost,
especially going into the adventure stuff where like, yes, in
the comics, and I want to be careful because I
despite having read a lot of the comics, I'm by
no means like you know, well versed in like the

(18:38):
official canon or have read all of these different things.
But like the thing that most people love I feel
like about Spider Man is, like you said, just the
New York stop and crime as opposed to the like
you know, going out and fighting aliens in space. It's like, yes,
he has done that, but most of the stuff is like,
oh no, the Scorpion is robbing a bank, like, oh no,

(19:01):
Like the Shaker is trying to like destroy the subway,
and like that's like those are the things that you
want to see. It's like still high stakes and there's
still you know, these big fights, and there's all these
different things kind of all coming together, and he's dealing
with the Cosmic Cube and he's he's like you know,
having to deal with the Avengers and the X Men
and all these things. But the stuff that really is
like Spider Man at his war is like in New York,

(19:24):
Peter Parker just he like can't pay his bills and
he's got to go out and like fight crime, and
so it seems like that's they're kind of getting away
from this, you know, the the the Iron Man. I
can't remember what they got the nanobytes like or nanobots
like type suit that he now has. It's like all
of these different crazy things that are very cool, but
that innately kind of feel like they're stepping away from

(19:46):
the core of what Spider Man is, where he's just
sitting in his apartment having to like bitch up his suit,
like that kind of thing is like so human.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, it feels like we're going right back to a
square one. It's funny because it's like I almost view
that his first trilogy is like his origin story, which
is so wild that they kind of did that. It's
like so masterful in a way that you know, like
we got like a three movie and then plus like
you know, Civil War and two Avengers movies as like
an origin story for him to be like the friendly
neighborhood Spider Man and a lot of people I think

(20:15):
they've reported that originally he was supposed to do three trilogies.
I think he's only doing two. But he's the first
live action Spider Man to get four movies. But then
after these Avengers movies, which obviously he's gonna be a
part of in so much trip or form, I just
hope he keeps his mask on the entire time. Just
don't take it off. Oh yeah, don't take off the mask,
don't take it off, just be yeah, just be Spider Man.

(20:38):
I hope he gets the black suit in one of
these movies or at the end of this movie. That
could be one of the post credit scenes, because they
left that tease at at the end of No Way Home.
The Michael Mando, who's playing Scorpion, has been posting teases
of like comic panels because Scorpion's gotten the venoms and
BEI it before and he's been posting comic panels on

(20:59):
the and I'm like, bro, please, yeah, just do that.
That would be so sick. And I think having these
kind of, let's put it very bluntly, these mentally unstable
people around Peter Parker at probably the lowest point in
his life, you know, because there is that kind of

(21:20):
sad shroud of hope of him being like, oh, I
can go be this hero and he doesn't have the
burden of like having to endanger the people he loves
because they don't know who the fuck he is anymore.
But at the same time, there's gonna be this like
very big loneliness and sadness to him, and having the
Punisher and the Hulk and even Yolena, even if she's
in like a small role, like those are the people

(21:41):
you kind of want around with them, both for good
and bad things. Yeah, like having Frank Castle around, is
it gonna be the best?

Speaker 3 (21:49):
I was gonna say, it seems it seems kind of
like a perfect setup for you know, the anti hero.
You know, the first time that they meet that, he's
like he's like trying to fight Punisher because he's killing everyone,
you know, like whatever, Like they show up to the
same place and then he's like, oh my god, did
you just blow that guy's face off with a shotgun?

(22:09):
Like like I can't. I can't have you running around
the streets. And then you know they're eventually going to
have to team up to take off or to take on.
Like you said, maybe the Scydio Scorpion would be incredible.
I didn't. I didn't know that he got the cydia.
That's crazy. But yeah, I feel like the Venom was
such a massive letdown, and as was Venom two. I

(22:32):
still haven't seen Venom three, but I really want to
because it looks even it looks campier than Yeah, like
the venom horse looks like the coolest thing in the
worst way, where you're just cheering in the theater because
you're like.

Speaker 2 (22:44):
This sucks, Like that's probably the coolest part they got
last scene.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Yeah, my my fiance and I this is a side note,
just watched Have you seen Megan or Megan two?

Speaker 2 (22:54):
I have seen both?

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Yes, dude. We were howling laughing during Meg too. I
thought Megan one was like we had a blast, but
then Megan two was like my favorite movie because it
was one of the worst things I've ever seen and
we were just having like so much fun and it
felt like almost there with a carnage, but it just
wasn't bad enough to be a blast. Like I left

(23:18):
the movie just being like, I mean, I guess, you
know what I mean, Like it just was like I
guess that was a movie that I watched. But if
they can implement that into the MCNU and have it
really get, you know, like wild, then I will be
the happiest guy, even if it's the post credit scene,
you know what I mean, Like you show it like

(23:39):
drip onto something, and then I'm just gonna be like, yeah,
like so excited.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I would love it so much, and I'm guessing it's
hard because like a lot of these post credit scenes
now have been it's they've been a lot more careful
with them lately, and it's kind of been like one
that's setting up to doomsday and then one that's just silly. Yeah,
but it would be nice to get two spider and
ones that were that were just like leading to something,
because a lot of people were like, oh, Elena might

(24:06):
be in the movie. Maybe she's just in the post
credit scene, like and that's the key end to doomsday,
being like, hey, we need your help. Yeah, shit's about
to go down. My wife and I our local theater
has showed all the extended editions of Lord of the
Rings like each week, and I haven't seen them in
a long time, and I never saw them in theaters,
so it was super cool. And she was the one

(24:26):
where she was like, we gotta go see these and
I'm like, yeah, hell yeah, let's fucking go and me
watching them and I'm like, this is awesome. But I
was like, dude, if these movies came out today, I
was like, people would fucking hate these movies, Like seriously,
people would call them overhyped. They would they would comment
on the CGI for a thousand percent because everyone wants
to come out on CGI for whatever reason, and they

(24:47):
would say they were boring. Like I was, I was
thinking of so many things people would say about these
movies if they came out now, even if they came
out now, and they obviously had updated CGI and stuff,
because some of the CGI is great, some of it
obviously doesn't hold up, but it came out twenty years ago. Yeah. Literally,
I mean that was like the age of when those
things were just kind of like they were really getting

(25:09):
their grasp on CGI. Yeah, and I think that was
one of the first like real mocap performances with Gollum
and any circus and stuff, and a lot of the
GOM stuff looks pretty good.

Speaker 3 (25:19):
Well, and that's why they're like winning and stuff like.
That's why like when that stuff was happening, it was
winning awards because everyone's like, you have a person who's
not there, like, how are you Like it's a completely
different replaced person, Like this is unbelievable. I It also
reminds me of there's a quote, and I'm sure you've

(25:39):
heard it, but Peter Jackson at the Battle of Helm's
Deep there's a part where he was getting in an
argument with his lighting director because he was like the
lighting director was like, well, like the lighting doesn't make
any sense. Where is the light coming from? And he goes, dude,
it's the same place as the music. Like it's this
whole thing is supposed to be for entertainment. It's supposed

(26:01):
to look a certain way.

Speaker 2 (26:02):
And if you start.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Nitpicking every tiny thing for the diegesis of how it's
supposed to be constructed, you're you're gonna end up having
no fun. Like it's like, just it looks like it's
lit this way because that's the way that it looks
best to be lit, and that's the way that it
sounds best when the music is playing. Yes, if it
was one hundred percent real, then it would look different

(26:24):
and sound different, But like that's not cool. What's cool
is when things are cool, So just let.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It be cool. Like, yeah, the worst criticism anyone can
give a movie, and I don't even think it's really
a criticism. They're like, that doesn't make sense in the
in the realm. I was like, yeah, food care, they're
not supposed to make fucking sense. We're supposed to live
in this world of imagination for two hours or however
long a TV show is like who gives a flying fuck? Yeah,

(26:51):
I will get bad if a movie sets rules and
they break those rules, that is critically.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
And that's another thing that I've spent or rather i'd
recently been trying to spend less time because I find
that they're ultimately like a net zero game. But like,
for a long time, I was on these tiktoks and
Twitter threads of power scaling for different things and people comparing,
you know, like one punch Man versus Superman, and like

(27:18):
Superman versus Goku from Dragon Ball Z and Wolverine versus
and like, the thing is, all of those things are
only as strong as the person writes them to be,
which in most cases they're kind of invincible, because it's
not fun to have a character who will eventually just
die because they're like not strong enough. So like Superman,

(27:40):
it's fun to eventually be like, he's faster than the Flash.
It's like, doesn't the Flash go backwards in time because
he's so fast? And it's like, yeah, I don't know.
It's like why hasn't Superman done that? You're like, I
don't know, man, because it's a different book, like I.
And if you're trying to compare these things, and if
you're trying to say, like who would win in a fight,
it just eventually turns into like the rules are always

(28:03):
made to be broken, because that's how you know that.
It's like a cool moment, like if you set up
the flash, you know, for however long he's running this fast,
and then there's a position or he's put in a
position where he needs to run just that little bit faster,
and then you see him do it. Then that gets
you excited. But that means that the line is always
going to get a little bit higher every single time

(28:25):
there's a new situation that he's going to be put in.
And so they like, there's no use comparing the power
scaling of these people because they exist in their own
universes and they're all the hero of their own universes.
And so eventually you're just like, I don't know, maybe
this person would win, maybe the other person would win.
It depends on the day, and it depends on who's

(28:46):
running it.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Like, yeah, it's true, that's very very true. That's a
very good, like level headed way to put it. It
is good.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Yeah, It's like there's been times where where Spider Man's
beat the Hulk and it's like, are they the same
strength level?

Speaker 4 (29:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (29:02):
But like it just on on this day, depending on
who was writing it, maybe this time he outsmarted him
in some way and that's why he won. So like, yeah,
does that mean that they can bench press the same amount? No? Like,
but again it's like, what is our scale? Like, what
are we talking about here?

Speaker 2 (29:19):
Exactly? Yeah, one hundred percent? So you talked about Megan
and Meghan two. What else? Yea, let's see.

Speaker 3 (29:25):
Megan and Meghan two was the last time that we
had like just so much fun. We had it. We
had a blast at Bring Her Back. I think it
was one of my favorite movies of the year so far,
but it was not fun. I don't know if you saw.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
I haven't seen it yet, which I'm pissed at myself
for because I love to talk to me Yeah, the
same director as writer. So I'm waiting for it to
HBO Max, Like that's honestly what I'm waiting for it
at this point, and I know it's going to be
sometime soon, and I'm just like, please just put it
on there so I can watch it. It's like like
all the things about the past couple of days.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Actually, I literally I think it just had like on
like The Coming Soon, or it might be on like
Amazon Prime for rental. But yeah, but yeah, dude, very
similar vibe to talk to me in terms of, like
the violence is not consistent. It's not like a slasher
where it's you know, every scene ends in somebody dying
in a horrible way. But the few times that they
do it, they implement it so intensely and so well

(30:19):
that it's just like it had me swirming in my
seat at a couple of the moments. It's crazy, dude,
but also just like a really well made, like well
thought out story, but again has its own set of
rules that if you start being like you know, what
was the like how does the power scaling work? And

(30:40):
what are the rules for the magic of this thing,
it's like, who cares, dude. They gave you the information
that they wanted you to have because it had a
specific vibe, because it had a specific emotion. They wanted
you to feel a certain way and think a certain
way watching this thing. You don't need to have all
of the info to be able to like get through
this story, like you only need what you need and
same with the same with weapons. I don't know if

(31:02):
you saw Weapons, Love Weapons, dude, phenomenal movie. Absolutely loved
that movie. But the same the same kind of critici critique.
I almost said criticism, but I was meaning critique. It's
they're talking about doing the the prequel that's all about
Aunt Gladys and how she gets like her powers or
like which she powers.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Yeah, and I just don't.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
I just don't care, Like I don't need the whole explanation, like, yeah,
it gave me in that I needed exactly, dude, exactly.
It makes it unknowable, it makes it spooky, it makes it,
you know, bigger and like larger than life, and it's
just this thing that is happening. And also I feel
like it takes away from some of the message because
if it gets too rooted in reality, then it's not

(31:47):
really a metaphor anymore. It then it's just a different thing.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
I I will I will accept it only because I
think Zach Kregor is like a fucking genius and I
don't think he would do it unless he had a
good idea for it. And I'm hoping that it just
it doesn't explain things like I'm hoping it is because
he was on last podcast on the Left and I
just listened to that a few days.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
You haven't listened to it. I saw a clip on TikTok,
but I need.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
To listen to it. It's it's awesome, especially if you
love the movie and you like Dak Craiger. It's a
great listen because they ask him very good questions and
there are different questions that I've heard other people ask him.
And they had him obviously for like an hour compared
to like five minutes, so it's a very much more
flush out interview. And he made up like I'm not
for anyone who hasn't seen weapons going through weapons, and
I'm trying not to spoil anything for you.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I know, I want to be careful.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot to get into that.
Like that movie surprised the hell out of me, and
I only watched the first trailer. In the trailer gave
absolutely nothing away. Like if you go watch the trailer,
the trailer is the opening scene and that's it. Basically,
it's basically the opening scene, which is awesome, and I
wish more movies would do that. But yeah, he kind
of talked about how he made up how and Gladys

(32:54):
did things like it's not He's like, there's certain things, sure,
it's kind of based off of but he made up
his own thing for it, like the tree and the
ritual and everything like that, like he made it up,
like yeah, which is awesome, and just hearing the way
he methodically plans stuff is so cool, Like he he
storyboards everything. They go to the locations and they plan

(33:15):
everything out before they go, so when they get there,
it's just like, this is what we're doing.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
We do it.

Speaker 2 (33:20):
He helped score the movie with like two of his friends.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
And stuff like the credits, and was like blown away.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
This dude is insane. He operates on another level like
truly to me, like I just love what he does.
And they would ask him certain questions to specify things
and he's like, I don't want to answer that because
I don't want to ruin anyone's stuff for it, because
that's what movies are meant to be. Movies are meant
to be like journeys for the viewer. Like obviously he
made it and he's talked about some things. He wrote

(33:47):
the movie because it helped him deal with the passing
of one of his friends who's on the Whites Kids,
you know, And he did talk about how the kid
is kind of a metaphor for like being a child
in an alcoholic home, like with an alcoholic and that
was really cool because it didn't click with me watching
the movie. But I remember every time when that kid

(34:10):
came up, I was like, I feel so bad for
this kid. Like every scene with him, I was like,
this poor kid man. I was like, this is so brutal.
So I love that heat when they're even because they
ask about like the gun scene over the house, which
I'm sure that's not spoiling anything. People have probably seen
it on the internet. And he's like, I'm not telling
you what that means, and I'm like that's and they
were like thanks, They're like cool, awesome, Like I'm glad

(34:32):
you didn't answer that, because he's like, I want to
leave enough for people to like make their own meaning
for it, which is something that I love about what
he's done with Horror. He's only done two movies, but
still like, I'm so stoked. So if he has an idea,
that's not gonna because I don't think he would make
a movie like that, Like his movies are also kind
of they toe the line of, you know, like leaving

(34:52):
things open ended for people to interpret their own ways
while still selling a coherent story. So if they are
doing a pretty because first reports where there was gonna
be a sequel, and then more concrete reports came out
about the prequel. Who knows he's making a resid eval
when we're in now, so it'll be a while before either.
But I'm down for whatever he's gonna do, Like yeah,

(35:13):
just like whatever the guy wants to make, I'm it.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I really appreciated the when he was talking about the
gun scene the again having not listened to the podcast,
but I've seen a couple of clips and some like
like reddit type amas and stuff where people are talking
about things that he said the the like David Lynch
kind of dni vingever, like the idea of something doesn't

(35:36):
necessarily have to have like a one to one explanation
for what it is. Like sometimes it's just about a vibe.
It's just supposed to make you feel a certain way,
and it doesn't have to be like this is because
of you know, like like the two seventeen is a
reference to this elementary school where there was a shooting,
or it's like sometimes it's just because it's supposed to

(35:58):
make you feel a certain thing. I think it's enemy.
I don't know if you've seen that with with Jake
Jaron had.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, I think so, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
And it's again no spoilers, but there's these there's this
kind of recurring motif of these like spiders. And I
read this interview where genevan Away was like he's like,
it's not that the spiders are specifically this thing. It's
not that they're like this is the ex wife or
like he had it like, it's just that watching it,
you see these giant spiders happening in the movie, and

(36:29):
it just immediately makes you feel a certain way. And
that's what he wanted to evoke, and that's why they're
in there. And like, so having a scene with a
giant floating gun during a dream sequence first of all
makes it feel like a dream sequence because it's weird.
You're just dreaming and things are weird in dreams, but
also like it doesn't have to be this is this
linear explanation of this this object. It's just something that's

(36:52):
supposed to evoke a response and that's why you include it.
And so it's also eat that kind of shrouded in
mystery and be like, I'm not going to explain it.
I want whatever you felt. That was the most. That
was the emotion that I wanted you to feel.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yep. It's like music, you know, not everything you play
or write or whatever means something. You're just like that
sounded cool or that works for this part or whatever.
You know, It's like, not everything needs to be this
like crazy artistic explanation of things, Like sometimes it just
works and that's all you needed for that one specific moment.
That's that's, that's all it is. There's two There's two

(37:28):
streaming movies I wanted to bring up because obviously when
you say streaming movie, people are usually like for a
good reason most of the time. But there's two movies
that came out recently on streaming that I think are
definitely worth the watch. I'm not going to say they're
like incredible or like movies of the year, but like,
as I'm watching them, I'm like, this is a really
good movie, especially for a movie that went straight to streaming.

(37:49):
The first one is this movie Eenie Meani. I know
the title is kind of stupid, but it makes sense.
It starts Tomorrow weaving and it's on Hulu, and it
basically kind of you find out that somemorrow Moving had
this past of like dealing with kind of these elaborate
plans to like rip people off, like kind of heiss ish.

(38:10):
There's a lot of cool driving in the movie and
stuff like that. You see it in a point in
her life where she's kind of out of it. She
kind of gets pulled back in and it kind of like,
you know, snowballs from there. But it's a solid movie.
I just want to see her in more things. She
was in this this horror movie Ready or Not, which
is fucking awesome to go movie, it's super fun, so

(38:30):
fucking awesome, and this is kind of like a more
like drama type of movie. And it was cool to
see her in that kind of thing, and not just
because she's been in a lot of horror movies, which
is fine, she was great in those two, but it
was cool to see her in a kind of a
different setting. I'm like, man, I'd really like to see
her in more things. So that was awesome. And then
Night Always Comes. It starts Fvanessa Kirby who was too

(38:51):
storm fantastic for it, And that's this is on Netflix
and the best way to subscribe it. It's kind of
like uncut Gems, but if you liked.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Them character helpful things are happening and a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
You're like, stop doing these things. Yeah, it's like all
uncod gems are like fucking stop stop doing all these things.
But you feel bad for her because she's in the
super like mess up situation. She stills with her mom
and then her brother, and her brother has this type
of disorder and stuff, and she's like taking him to
work because her mom is like kind of crazy and

(39:28):
their their house is like falling apart and they need
to pay a bunch of money so they can still
stay there. And then the mom spends all the money,
so she spends this whole night trying to get like
twenty grand or something like that. And it's just that
that's what the movie is. It's her night trying to
get this money, and it just happens, like it just
keeps getting worse and worse, Yeah, as it goes. But
it's like both these movies like after I've done I

(39:50):
was like, wow, that was that was pretty fucking good.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
That's but I want, I'm surprised that with the kind
of implementation of stream or rather though, like with how
big and consistent streaming has been, it is now like
really the only way to watch TV. Like I don't
know anyone who's just watching on like you know, like
flipping the channels on direct TV. It's just like that

(40:14):
really is like the household way to ingest media. And
I am surprised that consistently it feels like there's this
kind of bar of like barely above mediocrity, if not below,
Like I like, it's like so many movies that are
that exist really to only make their money back or

(40:36):
to kind of like continue just churning out the process.
Like if you can get people to, you know, just
to watch this thing so that it keeps them on
the on the app, then like that's what the movie
is for. And it doesn't feel like it's it's creative expression.
It doesn't feel like it's trying to accomplish anything or
say anything to the audience. It's just here's a movie

(40:56):
so that you know, two hours later you will you
will have watched a movie like just so to hear
that there are a couple of movies that are at
least helping to kind of alleviate that is very partning.
That's exciting.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah, it's nice. And the director of Night Always comes
directed this movie that I'm sure no one watched, called Sharper.
It's on Apple TV Plus and it's a movie that
went straight to Apple TV Plus and it has like
Sebastian stann Is in it, Julianne Moore's in it, and
that movie is fucking awesome, Like it is so sick.

(41:33):
It's a thriller and it keeps you guessing like it
is so good. So if you have not watched Sharper
and Apple Plus, which I could probably bet money that
you have not, because I feel like me and my
best friend John are the only people who have watched
it that I know, go watch this movie. And we
were both like, dude, this movie fucking rocks. And I
think I told him to watch it maybe or he
told me to watch it one of the other ways,

(41:54):
and we were both just like shocked, Like this movie
that no one's talked about, that has Sebastian standard that
is sitting on Apple TB plus and it's fucking rad.
Like more people need to watch that movie because it
is genuinely awesome.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Well, so the other one was it was Michael Faster,
Oh The Killer, I want to.

Speaker 2 (42:12):
Say, Oh yeah, The Killer that David Fincher.

Speaker 7 (42:15):
Yeah, that movie also rocked I And again, that was
one of those movies that, like, even if it wasn't
my favorite movie of the year and it wasn't a
perfect film, I was excited because I was like, at
least it's something original.

Speaker 3 (42:27):
At least it's got, you know, some kind of point
of view that it's trying to present, and and it's
it's well made. It's crafted intentionally as opposed to the
kind of like chat GPT right meo movie type thing
where it's like it whether it's like predictable or even
just in like the way that it's shot, the way

(42:47):
that it's acted, everything just kind of feels like it's
a recreation of a movie versus like I want to
make something, you know what I mean? And I again,
you can say the same thing for any kind of
art form, whether it's music or whatever. They're people and
bands and musicians who has made their living off of
like just kind of parroting genres or other artists or

(43:11):
visual medium whatever, it is, and it's like, you know,
it's not necessarily inherently bad or wrong. I can't say
that it's not valuable, but like the things that get
me so much more excited, or like even if I
hated it, and this is something that my band and
I have argued on endlessly, especially Gritith, but like even
if I like hated it.

Speaker 4 (43:31):
I love that.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
Or when artists or things make a decision, if it's
a strong choice, like you made a strong decision, whether
it worked out or not, you it's something that was like,
you know, that was weird, that was different, that was intentional,
those idiosyncratic and and versus being like, let's make something
that we know is going to do well, like do

(43:54):
the wrong thing and have it crash and burn, but
at least you tried, And it's like that's so much
more interesting to me.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
I agree one hundred percent totally, because there's been things
I watch where I'm like, not really my thing, but
like good for them. Yeah, exactly, doing something like that,
you know, like that's that's that's ultimately way cooler than
trying to like fit some weird trend that nine times
out of ten you're already behind trying to fit anyway.
You can't try and fit with trends. You have to

(44:21):
try and be the trend. And I know that's like
an impossible thing to say, but like that's what it is,
Like you can't you know, it's these things happen naturally
because they happen naturally. That's that's how it is. And
that's an anything you see.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Yeah, no hard degree I anything in the world. And again,
like whether it's food, whether it's art, whether it's anything,
Like but did you see skinnem rink?

Speaker 2 (44:43):
No, but I heard it was like watching pain dry.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yes, but in the cool it's it's the best. And
here's the thing, as with anything, as soon as you
start talking about stuff that is, you know, niche or counterculture,
you immediately are are out in your self as like
not niche or like it's like that, Like that is
something that was like the most popular weird movie. And

(45:07):
obviously there are weirder, more niche, more counterculture movies to watch,
but this is just an example that popped into my head.
But like, that was a movie that was so weird
and it's so off putting, and it was one of
the few times that I've seen a movie that like
the way that it like the make or break of
the movie was you have to turn off all the lights,

(45:28):
you have to like put your phone on do not disturb,
and you have to sit and just like be inside
of the movie. Like if you're kind of like tuning
in and out, if you're talking to people, if you're
like eating your food and kind of like you know,
doing it, it's sort of almost in the background. You're
gonna get absolutely nothing out of that movie and you're
gonna be bored the whole time. But if you're like

(45:49):
in it, that thing is it was something that I
like wore around for a couple of days because it
was just like it was just like you're like in it.
And again, to make a full length movie that has
multiple like it's almost entirely comprised of like static shots
of like the corner of a room and nothing is

(46:11):
happening is like on paper, that sounds terrible, Like it's
like that should not work at all, But that's that's
such a weird choice and it serves such a specific
purpose and is so intentional, and there are so many
times where they could have, like if they were making
any other kind of movie, you could have had a
character be like and it's like a big scary monster

(46:32):
or whatever, and the fact that that doesn't happen is
why it succeeds. And so like sticking to the weird
choice was like, instead of having a big monster reveal,
instead of having you know, a big backstory for a
bunch of the characters and explaining all these things, you
just you have this vibe, which again goes back to

(46:53):
what we were talking about with with enemy and with weapons,
but like, you have this very well established vibe that
is what you're supposed to feel. They want you to
feel this way because they want to look this way,
and they want you to have this type of experience,
and we're not going to sacrifice that for, you know,
in order to implement some other thing that maybe would

(47:14):
work better or would be more consistent or whatever. Like
it's awesome anyway. I could just I could ramble about
that movie for a long time, and I think everyone
should watch it, even just to see if they can
make it and make their way through it.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
That's awesome though, because I think that's what I love
about horror, is that because I hate when people are like, yeah,
I liked it, but it wasn't scary. I'm like, that's
not a criticism of the actual movie. Like I don't
give a fuck if anything is scary. I give a
fuck if I felt something from it, And that's outside
of horror or anything, like if it's just a movie
about life, Like if I feel something out of it,

(47:46):
that's what I want a movie to do. That's what
I want music to do, and that's what I want
TV to do. Like I want art to elicit a feeling.
That's the whole point of all of it. If you
don't feel anything, there's no point to it, you know.
So that feeling could be just being stoke or like
wanting to run as fast as you can down the
road or whatever, Like it doesn't hatter. Like I just
wanted to feel something, and like that's what like Weapons

(48:10):
is one of the first time like I feel like
I hate. I don't want to say it never happens.
But I probably watch around, you know, like anywhere between
like eighty to one hundred movies a year probably from
that year, and I probably watched like not joking, like
fifty to sixty TV series from a single year. Like

(48:30):
it's it's a lot of media. I consume, but there's
very little things from that that I go wow that
Holy shit. And weapons was one where I left the
theater being like wow, yeah, wow, Well there's a lot
of movies I leave and I'm like that movie was
really cool. I'm glad I went and saw it. But like,

(48:51):
that movie's truly I was like, whoa, Yeah, that took
me on a ride I was not expecting at all,
and it made me like, it made me feel uncomfortable,
It made me laugh, it made me jump a few time,
you know, like it was just awesome like that. That's like,
that's and that's especially what I want in a horror movie,
Like I want to feel weird and kind of uncomfortable.

(49:11):
And the way the story is told in that movie,
and the way even with that storytelling device in the
way they continued to escalate the tension and the dread
is so impressive because a lot of the times, like
if you start from square one and kind of go
back up, you can just lose all that tension, but
it stays there. And they just kept going up and
up and up until it culminated. And the crazy way

(49:33):
it culminated. But like that's like the biggest compliment I
can give it is that, yeah, it made me feel
all these things that I didn't expect to feel going
into and it's.

Speaker 3 (49:43):
Such a it's impressive because again, speaking from like a
numbers game perspective, if you're watching over one hundred movies
a year, if you're if you're just again, you have
this like influx of media constantly at that point. For
something to stand out above that, it really has to like,
you know, like and I feel like there's so much
that lives kind of in the middle range in the

(50:05):
in six out of ten to eight out of ten.
So it's it was good, you know, I didn't I
didn't have a bad time. It wasn't wrong, it wasn't
like you know, but but then you have these these
kind of random things that just pop out and and yeah,
we we laugh because every year we take we take
doing our Albums of the Year list very very seriously,

(50:25):
like very very seriously. It's it's something where we all
are like in a group chat where we're sending things
to each other and we're being like, you know, I
thought I had this at number six, but I just
listened to it again and it might be number four.
Like it's like we like really go to bat for it.
And the the problem with getting towards the end of

(50:48):
the year is then you go okay. Like so, for example,
a couple of years ago, Souphian Stevens put out the
album Javelin, which which was my album of the Year,
and it's this like incredible weird folk like not pop
but like indie. I don't know, it's it's just a
it's a phenomenal album, and it's this like eulogy to

(51:11):
his dead lover, which is also when he came out
as gay, and it's this like really intense emotional experience.
I listened to that album maybe twice throughout the year,
and the first time that I listened to it was
we were driving home from playing shows in California and
we were coming I was on the night drive. We
were leaving I think it was Aftershock, and we were

(51:32):
coming home through California. We were going through the mountains.
It was like it's like four o'clock in the morning,
and then I turned the album on at maybe five
and the sun is coming up. It's like September. It's
like it's like fall. I'm driving through the mountains. Everyone
is asleep. In the back and I'm just listening to

(51:52):
this album about this this man mourning the loss of
his dead partner. And it was the most like transcendent,
like gorgeous experience I've ever had listening to music. And
but again and not everyone who puts that album on
is going to feel that way. Like and and similar
to the skin ring thing, it's like, yeah, if you're

(52:14):
like doing that while you're like folding laundry or while
you're like on the drive, and then you're kind of like,
you know, if you're doing it in chunks where it's like,
you know, I got to drive fifteen minutes to the
gas station, I'll put on listen to three songs. Maybe
I'll listen to a couple more later. It's like, you,
it's not going to click that way, But as as
you start to really like dig into something, that's when

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you can get like the meat of it. But the
problem is there needs to be meat to be had,
and so if it is, there's a lot of stuff
that like, you can listen to it four or five
times and be like, I don't think there's actually any
meat on this bone, Like I don't think that there's
much to be gleaned from doing this, from having this
artistic experience, and it's not making me feel necessarily anything.

(52:56):
And so especially for you, I'm I'm it's so cool
that like weapons was that way for you as well,
because I feel like there's also a professionalism aspect of like,
like I was impressed with writing, I was impressed with acting.
I was impressed with you know, how it made me
feel and all that stuff. But also from a from
a technical standpoint, a lot of the shots that they
were pulling off, like especially that whole.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Camera sequence camera work was so cool. Like I was
thinking that the whole movie. I was like, the way
they're moving the camera is sick, Like the fucking rules.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Yeah. I saw behind the scenes clip and they had
when she's running through the gas station and she's getting
chased through the gas station a guy. Yeah, dude, exactly
like crazy and you're You're like, I don't really know
how to make this still feel handheld and not beyond
some Dolly track that's like perfect, And it's like, how
about if we just put him on roller skates and

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he has to just skate around, Like that's awesome, so cool.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I love that, Like seeing something like that's so cool.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
I agree, I wholeheartedly agree. But yeah, I just I
feel like there's as with any again, any art form,
but like I feel like there's just you have to
have some intention for people to be able to dig
into and find, you know, something really really significant. And
I I am worried because, like I feel like some

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of the like the MCU stuff gets a bad rap,
but I feel like lately that's been that's been my
gripe is that a lot of it doesn't feel like
it's for anything other than trying to get back to
like a big moment, or it's the you know, the
like summer Blockbuster, which again is not inherently wrong. I'm sorry,
I'm rambling. I in my In one of my film
classes in college, we started off because it was just

(54:38):
it was about action cinema, and we started off watching
fuck now I can't remember, it doesn't matter. We watched
some you know, popcorn flick, some Blockbuster and the whole
up to that point, you've done, however, many years of
you know, watching French new wave cinema, and you're talking
about the remember, and it's so like, you know, up

(54:59):
your own asthma for it's kind of like, well, I
thought that the director was actually dealing with their own
latent homosexuality, like it's just like some outrageous thing. And
then the film professor was like, Okay, we're gonna watch
you know, Transformers level movies, right, And what I need
you guys to remember is that when this art form started,

(55:20):
it was it was a horse. It was like, you know,
however many twenty pictures of a horse, and people were
losing their minds because it was a moving picture that
they'd never seen before. And so initially it didn't have
to be about all of these different things, some kind
of you know, reference to the economic situation of this country's.

(55:41):
It can just be about entertainment, and like, there is
so much good to be found in just entertaining movies.
But I think the most entertaining things are when it
exists for entertainment but has something to say along with that,
like yeah, all of that is just praise of weapons.
I just feel like that movie was so well but again,

(56:03):
same as Bringer Back. I really want you to watch that,
and I'm texting when you do because I'm super curious
to hear what do you think.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Yeah, I'm literally maybe I'll rent it. I don't know, dude.
Thank you so much for doing this. This is awesome, dude.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Of course, I'm like, we could talk for another six hours.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
So.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Easily easily could talk for But before we get out
of here, let people know what you got going on.
What Fox Lake has coming up in the next couple
of months.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yeah, we start on the headliner in a couple of weeks.
We have some routing shows going out to New England,
New England Metal and Hardcore Fest in West Boston. We
have We're going to be It Louder than Life in Louisville,
and then we're we're going to be playing the headliner
for the new album, New World Heat. Please go check
that album out. I'm so curious to hear what people think.

(56:50):
It's been a lot of work and a lot of
time and I'm really really proud of that record. And yeah,
and then we're on tour with Gray Haven in the
in the fall and winter and our are you planning
up some huge stuff for next year? So yeah, yeah,
super excited man, And please come, I want to hang
with you again.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Yes, I'm planning on seeing you guys and in Wooster.
It will be a good time, a good time to
hang out. Yeah, that's what stick your guns and stuff.
So I mean, like, if you're in the area, you're
probably hand.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
Are you eating?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Oh yeah, cool hands, Cold hand, dude. I haven't seen
cool Hand in like fifteen ten years. Maybe it's been
a while, it's been a long time.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
They used to play Syracuse all the time and it
was awesome. It was the coolest shit. But it's been
I know that the singers in Terror now, so I
did not know that he plays Basin. He plays Basin Terror.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
That's so cool.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
That's super stoked to not only see you guys, but
to check out a super sick show. And yeah, make
sure you go check out Fox Lake. They will probably
be coming to a city near you also within the
next several months, but so make sure you go see them.
Go by, go stream whatever their new helme. It's fucking awesome.
And if you want supports podcast milknurves dot com all
our links there and when he plays, I follow me

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and Twitter And until next time, see you are nerds.