December 17, 2024 • 54 mins
A new era of DC has officially begun with Creature Commandos! This week Sean is joined by Nick Arthur of Molotov Solution to breakdown the first two episodes and share their thoughts on the future of DC as a whole.
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Enjoy the music we love without destroying your hearing. What's
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the multiverse midle core Nerds. With each week I have
a guest on the podcast. In your music community and
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we talk about the latest and greatest entertainment. I'm you
know Shan Mott. Today we're talking about the official start
of James Gunn's DCU with Creature Commandos, is animated series
on Max. My cost this week is Nick of Molotov Solution.
Welcome to the show Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What's up everybody?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Thanks for having me, Sean, super stoked to have you here.
Super Stoked to talk some dc and some other things.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Some exciting stuff, exciting times in the I guess in
the realm of the DCU is there calling it now?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I would agree, so stoke to get into that. But
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Before we get into the pop culture talk, we're gonna
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kick off the show like we do every week, with
the middal Nerds Song of the Week and the Song
of the week. This week is from our guests. This
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Speaker 2 (06:04):
Again.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
That was Maltov solution with Mortis Imperium. I know this
is two out of three singles. I know you guys
have been kind of sitting and working on this new
music for a long time. So how's it feel to
have it out there? Finally?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's been great. Their reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. Yeah,
it was like we were sitting on it for quite
a while, so it's been very nice and cathartic to
kind of actually get it out there see what people
are thinking. But we're about to conclude trilogy. The first
first drop of these three songs this week.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Very awesome that if you haven't seen the videos, they're
very insanely cinematic and all get darker as they go along.
Very cool to see those in music videos because I
feel like it's not like a broken worker for anyone
who listens to constantly. But I think the music video
is like a lost art nowadays. It's kind of coming
back a little bit, but it's cool to see such cinematic,
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dope thought out like music videos.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Dylan at Versus Studios, he caught our eye with spirit
Box and some of the video work that he had
done for them, and it was just beautiful, like cinematic stuff,
and that's really what me and Robbie really wanted to
go for. He killed it on our music videos and
now he actually since since doing Hours, he's released a
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couple more with spirit Box and they have like millions
of views after only being out for a week, so
they're crushing it. Hopefully we can piggyback off of a
little bit of their success too with using Dylan but
yeah there, I mean, he does amazing work. Anybody's looking
to get some cool cinematic stuff done should definitely reach
out to Dylan at Versus Studios.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, for sure, dude is the real deal. That's for sure.
So twenty twenty five obviously right around the corner. Does
All Top have anything planned? You got some shows? Anything
coming next year? You can tease nothing in.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The realm of shows or tours, fortunately that I can tease.
We will definitely have some more music coming out in
twenty twenty five. We're kind of just getting started right now,
so they're twenty twenty five should be a pretty exciting
year from alotav.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Good to hear. I know, I know everyone was stoked.
As soon as you guys brought the socials back, it
kind of just exploded. So it's good to see. Yeah,
we're very excited diving into the pop culture talk. We
just got a new trailer for twenty eight Years Later,
the first trailer for the movie coming out of June
twentieth of next year, and this is a continuation of
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the twenty eight Days Later franchise. I guess now it's
a trilogy, though I'm sure most people would want them
to forget the second one, but Alex Garland and Danny
Boyle weren't attached to that one for whatever reason, but
they are back for this one. This one stars Anreytanno, Johnson,
Ray Fines. I know Killian Murphy is a producer on
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this movie, and I know there is some behind the
scenes photos that may indicate that he might play a
role in this movie as well. But Nick, what did
you think of this trailer?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I thought it looked cool. You don't get a whole
lot from it. They do a lot of like good
cutting and cropping to kind of keep things more secretive
as you're watching it. But I don't know. I'm a
big fan of the franchise. I think the first movie
was insane and just a cool, like unique spin on
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zombie films. The second one, like you said, I think they,
you know, might want to forget it. I don't remember
too much of it, so I may have already forgotten,
and I know that it was like a little more
action oriented maybe yep, I can't I can't remember specifically,
like a little less horror, a little more action. But
this one looks cool. Aaron Taylor Johnson's pretty awesome. I
really liked him in Bullet Train. He has Craven coming
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out soon too, and you know, I don't know how
how to feel about any Sony Spider Verse movies, but
I'm still excited. I'll probably watch it after it's out
of theaters and streaming somewhere, but I don't know. It
could be cool. I like Craven. Craven's one of my
favorite Spider Man villain, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I talked a little bit about that last week.
I love Aeron Talller Johnson, and he's probably the main
reason I'm going to watch that movie because I feel
like that movie could have been any other movie other
than a Craven movie and been the same movie, honestly. Yeah,
but yeah, I do love Aaron Tayler Johnson. So he's
also going to be in No Spratu and I'm coming
on Christmas too, so he's got a pretty stacked a
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couple of months.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah. No Spratu looks really awesome. I'm really hyped so
that my wife is like incredibly excited for that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, Sam's pretty stoked for it too. I'm definitely the plan.
My plan in my mind is seeing that on Christmas. Days.
That's the hope, that's the dream.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh yeah, we should get tickets. We should. We should
line that up in advance and go see a Christmas
Day that'd be awesome. Christmas night maybe after all the
family festivities and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Are done, to close out a nice a nice day
with some some vampire.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Shit, some sultry vampire horror.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, some some really nice I'm sure, super upbeat and
not dark at all. It's like, like, what you said,
this trailer didn't give away pretty much anything, which I like.
It's kind of refreshing for a trailer. Nowadays, a lot
of trailers just you know, they give away the whole
fucking movie and then they're like what, why the fuck did.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I watch that?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So it was cool for them to be constrained and
just enough of a tease. And people are hyped about
this movie. Every time I post about it, everyone's like, fuck, yes,
like so hyped. So I feel this is gonna be
a big one and eyeing a summer release. Obviously, Sony
has a lot of faith in it.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sony gets rightfully so dogged on for their Spider Man
movies that don't include Spider Man, but they do do
some other stuff that's actually pretty good, like this movie,
which I have full faith that it will be good,
especially with Alex Garland, and I believe they're planning for
another movie after this too. I think that was the
whole kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh wow, what would it be twenty eight decades later,
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I would be I'd be out for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Actually, if they do do something like that, I think
they missed the bucket because there I think it's I
think there's somewhere about twenty years out from the original
right now, and they kind of missed the bucket.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Alex Garland returning to just write something is pretty refreshing,
I think, because he's been kind of in this writer
director kind of mode for a long time now. You
released movies like Ex Machina Civil War this year men,
so he's kind of been on that track for a while.
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So for him to gravitate back towards this franchise and
be like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna write and work
with my friend Danny Boyle, I think is a pretty
big deal to make happen, and I'm excited to see
what comes out of it. With him just focusing on
writing rather than writing and directing, which I think he
is fantastic of both. To be honest, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Seeing a thumbnail right now for twenty eight years later,
and it has Killian Murphy's face on it, and he's
like a character in whatever. Like the trailer preview is,
did you see him in the trailer? Am I crazy? No?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The only thing that people thought they saw him in
the trailer was like this really fucked up, infected looking guy.
And I think it's just a really scrawny dude with
similar hair to Killian Murphy that people are like, oh man,
it's Killian Murphy and he's dead. And I'm like, I
get where you're seeing because it does resemble him. But
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I don't think they would give that away in the
in the first teaser. That seems like kind of insane,
especially for a trailer that had barely any dialogue in it.
They're just gonna give away Killian Murphy cameo in. It
doesn't really make sense what you may be seeing. If
it's from a page called screen Culture, they are the
worst and they make fake trailers and I hate them.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I should be the worst. Now it's some cage studio.
I think it is a fake trailer that's from two
months ago. So yeah, all right, that's fake fake news.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh yeah, but definitely fake, definitely fake. It's it's hard
because some of them, like especially the thumbnails, look like
really convincing and really good, and it bums me out
how some people fall from.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, there was so much hype for this movie because
they announced it like a while back, and people were
going crazy. So give some people some time to make
some fake shit. Take advantage now.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Each week I like to have our now watching section
where me and my guests talk about what we've been
watching recently. Whether it's in theaters, on streaming, new or old,
doesn't matter, Nick, what have you been watching.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I haven't actually been to the movies much at all lately,
which is kind of a bummer because there has been
some good stuff coming out. I can't remember the last
movie that I saw in theaters. It might have been
Doomed too, I had. Again, I haven't been going. I've
been I've been busy. I just bought a new house
and I've been dealing with all that stuff. So we
haven't had a ton of time to like get out
and go to the movies. But we have been home
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a lot. We just finished watching the Penguin. We also
kind of just finished watching Showgun, like we finished Showgun
and then we kind of jumped right into The Penguin
and then binged through the Penguin one week when we
were sick. Those are both phenomenal. I think Showgun is
probably one of my favorite shows I've ever watched, Like
it's just so well done, so beautiful. Can't even give
that show enough credit because it was amazing. Penguin was
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really good too. I don't know, like exactly how I
feel about the Batman universe and the Penguin and all
the characters in general, Like I just don't I don't
know quite how I feel about it, how I would
rank it alongside the other Batman's you know, I will
say the Penguin was an amazing show. I think it
was like kind of like the Aaron Taylor, Johnson and
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Craven thing that we were talking about earlier, where it
could have just been any other movie. I feel like
this show could have just been any other show. It
could have been any other MOB show, and it would
have still been amazing at the same time, Like you're not,
especially for most people that don't have a lot of
background with DC, especially with like the Gotham crime families,
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but it was just such like, I don't know, I
loved it. I thought it was a great show. I uh.
I highly recommend Penguin a lot to a lot of
people too that haven't watched it yet. But yeah, I
don't know, I don't how do you feel about this
new about the Batman universe? Batman two not even finished
being written yet. It feels like a huge dropped ball
(16:30):
to have this like amazing Penguin show and then not
even have like a release date for The Batman too yet.
I mean it's not even written, so there's no release date,
but it just feels weird.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I really liked the Batman, probably like the Penguin even
more than the Batman, probably because mostly what you said,
it could have been anything else and it would have
been fine. And I think it's probably the most approachable
Batman thing ever because anyone can watch it. You don't
even need to have watched The Batman. Obviously. It adds
in some nice kind of like oh, wow, that's that
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person from the movie, or oh that's how this connects.
And then the ending of it is it's kind of,
you know, a massive kind of a lot of tie
ins to what could happen in Part two and everything
like that, but you could still watch it and enjoy
it and not even know anything about the other movie
or anything. And I think that's a big plus and
a testament to what that show did is to how
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it could pull that off, because I don't think a
lot of shows can. And I'll talk about another show
that I think is doing the opposite and I don't
really like what it's doing in that kind of way
connecting to the movies and stuff. But yeah, it's hard because,
like people have tried to make this comparison all the time,
would you compare how would you compare The Batman to
The Dark Knight? But I always I say, like, no,
you should compare the Batman to Batman Begins if you're
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going to compare anything, And it's it's hard because you
can see it's like, oh, I probably would put the
Batman over Batman Begins, or they're very close, and if
it's already at that level, then the second one could
possibly maybe be Dark Knight level. It's hard to tell,
because I mean, The Dark Knights one of my favorite
movies of all time, and it's you know, obviously one
of the acclaimed kind of movies of all time, was
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one of the best villain performances ever. And I'm fine
with waiting. I know, it kind of sucks. It just
kind of suck the momentum out of having this amazing
show and then we're gonna have to wait two years
for to see him again, because he's obviously going to
be in Part two. But I'd rather them wait than
rush something too At the same time, you know, I
feel like that happens too much, where things just get
rushed and they put out and then it's kind of whatever.
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And I would rather wait than you know, have them
capitalize on something.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I also am starting to feel so how you
said you compare the first Batman movie more to Batman Begins,
But I think like after watching The Penguin, I'm starting
to get more of like a almost like a Tim
Burton Batman movie vibe from it. Like those ones were
a little bit more clowny and campy and cartoonish. But
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I think they just did a better job with the
immersion into Gotham, and I think that's probably what The
Penguin was four. But I even the one like kind
of not at the end where he's like in his
suit has that like gold vest and it's really like
reminiscent to the penguin from the animated series, and I
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feel like the animated series to me ties more back
into those like Tim Burton movies. This is you know,
probably frowned upon by a lot of DC fans. I
liked Batman Begins, and I like The Dark Knight, but
The Dark Knight Rises kind of just didn't do it
for me as a wrap up for that trilogy, and
for me, again just the bad opinion, but for me,
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it really hurt the brand of the rest of the
other two movies because I felt like Batman Begins with
such a good start, and then The Dark Knight Rises
was such a good follow up, and then to me,
the third part really floundered and kind of hurt the legacy.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I guess of that trilogy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Such a bad way, because I mean, obviously Heath Ledger died,
but I just didn't I wasn't in love with the
setting of those films. I guess it was like kind
of the grittiness that they were going for. You could
see they really translated that into these new Batman films,
like the realism and the grittiness, which is great because
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it seems like it's done better now than it was
in those films. But you just don't have the same
I don't know, like the Batman and the Penguin aren't
don't have as much like gravity. There isn't as much.
You don't have that same like Nolan like bigness that
those movies give you. And I feel like The Batman
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just felt very like low level, which I guess is
good if you're comparing it to Batman Begins, it feels like, yeah,
more like a Batman begins, But I just it didn't
have that kind of same gravity that these Nolan films did.
It's gonna be interesting to see where they go with
Batman too. Definitely, if they can kind of bring that
up to the level of the darkness, it's going to
be something else.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, I totally agree, and you are totally right that
they make Nottham a more like prevalent character. Yeah, in
these movies than the Nolan movies, which the Nolan movies
you can kind of tell they filmed in like Pittsburgh
and and stuff like that, which is fine. It works
for those movies for what it is but I think
the thing I like the most about this universe is
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that it finally gave us like a detective Batman like,
and I know they kind of put it under this
like crime noir lens, but I really dug that, and
I'm excited to see how they kind of evolve on
that going forward and everything like that. So I'm definitely
interested to see where they go with the second one
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with Villains, with every, the story with with with Everything.
The one series I have been watching that it's kind
of my comparison to the Penguin is Dune Prophecy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's like fine. The story is actually like it's pretty interesting.
It's kind of more Game of Thrones than Dune feeling,
which I think is part of what makes me not
like it as much, because like the tone doesn't feel
like Dune, Like the visual stylings doesn't feel like Dune.
There's even some VFX in it that is like kind
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of wonky and weird, so that like really pulls me
out of it because the anything VFX in Dune is
like so realistic. It's such a jarring comparison, and I
think that's what bothers me, especially after this is coming
after the Penguin, which the penguin. If you you know,
you played the Batman right into the Penguin, everything looks
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stylistically the same, yeah, you know, like the all the tones,
the camera angles, everything looks identical. And I think that's
amazing because I don't think a show to like a
movie to show kind of thing, has ever done anything
like that. And I even saw, like Reeves talked about
how the showrunners and everything made sure that they talked
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to the people who shot the Batman and everything to
make sure it felt and looked everything felt the same.
And I wish Dune did that too. And I know
Deni was a producer on it at one point, but
he isn't anymore. And it's kind of a bummer in
that regard. Like I said, the stories, it's still fine,
it's still pretty good, but it just doesn't feel like Dune,
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even though they say Dune words and you see the
sandworms sometimes. The other big thing that really bothers me
is that it's ten thousand years before Paul Trades is Mooring,
yet we're stilling, still dealing.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
No relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh but there is, of course. The main is the
Harconins and the treaties. Now'm like ten thousand years ago,
these motherfuckers were still going against each other, and I
feel like they could have done something like The Penguin,
where it's like it felt like it was his own
thing just in the Dune world, and it definitely does
not feel like its own thing. Yeah, it feels like
the Dune World is just doing something else and it's
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kind of a bum Yeah, to be honest, we.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Watched the first episode and we weren't like enthralled bite
right away, like I think we were show getting the Penguin,
where we kind of just jumped into those and like,
you know, blitzed right through them. But we watched the
first episode and I was just talking about that show
with somebody else, and I definitely agree with you. It
definitely doesn't feel the same like The Penguin did for Batman.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Other than that, I ended up discovering sort of the
show called Devs, which we talked about Alex Garland a
little while ago, and it's an Alex Garland written and
directed mini series basically follows The Silicon Company is run
by Nick and they have this section, secret section of
(24:47):
the company called DEVS and I'm trying to say that's
not spoiling anything, because it's a really kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Complicated it's an old it's an old series, so it's
probably okay if he drops some spoilers, I think, right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, yeah, it came out in twenty twenty. The whole
thing is that they are writing this code so they
can make a visualization of like a real visuation visualization
of any point in time with any person, anything. And
it deals a lot with multiverse and determinism and a
(25:19):
lot of like super heady sci fi shit, which is
very much my kind of thing. So I immediately fell
in love with it and just kept going and going
and going, and by the end I was like, this
probably had everything I would want a sci fi property
to having it. And I don't even know why. I
think it just popped up in my Hulu and I
remember someone asking me about it because I've been I've
(25:43):
talked about how I'm kind of like half and half
with Alex Garland movies, like I really liked Ex Machina.
I don't love Annihilation like everyone loves Annihilation. I didn't
like Men. I think Men's ending is fucking horrendous. And
then I liked Civil War, so I'm like, I'm kind
of having half on his stuff, and someone's like, oh,
have you ever watched Dev's I'm like no, and then
(26:03):
it just kind of left my mind until I stumbled
upon it on Hulu. I guess at the right time,
but I really really liked that series. Have you watched
that series?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think I watched like the first maybe the first
or second episode of it, and then didn't like pick
it back up after. I think I can't remember how
long ago. I guess it must have been in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one, but yeah, I watched like an episode
and was like, this is pretty cool, and then didn't
get much further.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, it just gets kind of like deeper and deeper
down the rabbit hole as it goes. And it's funny
because I noticed that Kally Spiney's in it, who was
in Civil War and Alien Romulus this year, and I
was like, oh, wow, her and Alice Garland worked together before. Crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, speaking of Alien, me and my wife started doing
a marathon trying to get ready for Alien Romulus. I
don't think she had seen any of the Alien movies.
So we went through one, two, and three, and then
we didn't like. I think we got too busy with
house stuff didn't pick it back up. But now Alien
Romulus is streaming, so we gotta we gotta pick that
(27:05):
back up and get back through it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Ye, or you're gonna do the Alien Versus Predator too, or.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Just Alien, you know, probably because I think when Alien
Versus Predator came out, I think I was probably like
a teenager. And I don't know, I can't remember when
those movies came out, but in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Four, yeah, so I was still like early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, and I probably would include it just because it
was one of those things that like when it came out,
I was just like a dumb teenager and loved the movie.
So we'll see if I still do or not. So
who knows, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You probably won't, but they are kind of really fun
to watch. Acknowledge how incredibly.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Dumb they are.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, then it's it's it's it's fine. They're not
even considered canon either. Everything that happens in it is
just thrown out the window anyway. But it's it's totally fine.
I can't wait for you to alien rhyme in this.
It's a pretty great modern amalgamation of kind of all
the alien movies in a way what's still kind of
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doing its own thing. It's a pretty impressive thing that
Vediaas pulled off. Then the last thing I watched, I
watched this movie called Night Bitch, which is Amy Adams
in this movie where she's a mom and her husband
constantly travels for work, and then she thinks she's turning
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into a dog, and that's the premise of the movie.
And I think the point of the movie is there,
and it kind of wraps up in a nice way,
and it's pretty much the whole point of the movie
is that like motherhood is like can be pretty brutal,
and especially when you're kind of in the type of
situation she was in where she's, you know, like she
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gave up her dream job to what she loved to
do to take care of her kid and her husband's
always gone and blah blah blah blah. Like the message
is there. I just think the execution was maybe a
little too weird in campy for me, because it does
get pretty out there. Not gonna not gonna lie to you,
it gets weird. But I don't know if you're into
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watching Amy Adams thinks she's turning into a dog.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Me and my wife liked the campy stuff. We we uh,
we like watching like Hulu horror movies and you know,
like stuff that's not the highest rated and we and
we get super into everything and and and love it.
But like one of our So I watch a bunch
of different animes right now. And and Dan de Dan
(29:32):
is really cool. I'm a huge Bleach fan, Like I
have a Bleach poster somewhere and we haven't hung stuff
up on the walls yet in this office down here,
but huge Bleach fans. So it's awesome that Bleach is back.
It's starting to get pretty pretty cool too. But we
were watching Christmas movies right now, and I can't remember
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if it was like last year, it might have been
two years ago. We watched like the Netflix Christmas movies
and I can't, I can't. I'm trying to think of
right now. Lindsay Lohan did this Christmas movie like a
few years back, and it was very much like weird
(30:13):
to see Lindsay Lohan on a movie, and because she
had been I don't know, out of the public spotlight
for quite a while. But then she did this movie,
and it was very much like a Hallmark Christmas movie,
so it felt really weird. And it's just like Lindsay
Lohan and she has this like her lips are blown
up and her face looks all like you know, juice
(30:33):
stuff and everything. It just looked crazy like she didn't
fit in with the movie at all. But we still
watched it and kind of loved the movie for whatever reason.
But she just did another one this year and I tried.
I tried to google it, but I can't find the
name of the movie anywhere. And it was actually really
good and I can't really Yeah, it was actually really good.
(30:55):
I mean for us, we really, we really enjoyed it.
But it's again it's like goofy can't be shit like that.
So I think this night bitch movie could be pretty interesting.
I think my wife might like it a lot, so
we'll definitely checked out.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's called Our Little Secret.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes. The premise is they dated
when they were very young and then she went off
to like follow her career, passion whatever, and they reunite somehow.
Don't want to spoil it, but definitely interesting watch for
especially for people like our age.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Hallmark movie there.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff, very good stuff, pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I've been super hesitant to watch it, mostly because she
put out a movie this year too, also on Netflix
called like Irish Wish or something, and I think it's
the worst movie I've seen this year. I watched Madame Webb.
Yeah that says anything.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
My wife is trying to get me to watch Pretty
Boud Irish Wish too, so we'll probably watch it just
because we like the other one. But it wasn't a
good movie by any means, but we enjoyed it. And
it's got the Christmas stuff too, so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Mean, I love a good rom com. I'm a sucker.
I'm a sucker for a rom com. So I get it. No, no,
no shade thrown towards you, whatsoever. I love a good
Let's get into Creature Commandos. So the two episode premiere
dropped last week and we got the beginning of the DCU,
well kind of. It does kind of confirm that some
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of the stuff we saw on the Suicide Squad and
some of the stuff we saw on Peacemaker are indeed
cannon to this new version of DCU. James Gun has
also been on record to say, almost everything from Peacemaker
season one is canon, besides the ending scene that had
the members of the Justice League that didn't happen, and
he said season two somehow addresses it. So I'm very
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interested to see how that happens. But we get this
new team full of weirdos and monsters, you know, very
very James Gunn, and I want to hear what did
you think of these first two episodes?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I thought it was cool. So just to kind of
preface for people, the DC movies have largely been dog shit.
Aside from like Man of Steel, maybe the Snyder cut
if you want to like it still just was still
kind of dog shit to me. Yeah, Batman v. Superman,
(33:18):
all the all the Aquaman movies were horrible, so horribly
tone deaf and just awful. Wonder Woman wasn't bad, but
just didn't do a whole lot. I don't know DC.
The DC movies have just been largely dog shit. It's
been a bummer because I I've always been more of
a DC fan than a Marble fan, but the Marvel
movies just surpassed and DC just has always been trying
(33:39):
to play catch up. James Gunn has done a good
job kind of rebooting, and I and I liked the
second Suicide Squad movie a lot, and they mentioned that
in Creature Commando. But animated DC films have been like
my saving grace for DC for like the past decade.
And you know, I meant, I meant to pull up
the list of like a mad DC movies. But there's
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a ton of really good Batman movies that they did.
There's a ton of like Justice League, dark Side Doomsday
kind of movies that they did. There's there's so many,
they cover so many different things. They do the killing Joke,
they do like a bunch of really cool like plots
from the comics and kind of unique stuff too. But
their animated films are amazing. And if if anybody listening
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hasn't seen a lot of the you know, last ten
years of like DC films, they should definitely check them out.
They recently kind of did a real like a soft
reboot I think on some of them, starting with like
a Superman movie, which is funny because the first like
movie that James Gunn is doing is Superman. I don't know,
I'm excited, I like, I liked, you know, James Gunn
did a great job with the Guardians movies, those were
(34:46):
some of the better films from Marvel, and I guess
Creature Commandos is it's interesting because it's basically just suicide squad,
but they can't use humans, so they're using these like
mom and I mean, so far, it's pretty pretty uh
interesting concept. I think you don't You don't really see
(35:08):
a whole lot of the plot just yet with the
first two episodes, but it's pretty cool. I'm digging it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, you pretty much just get the team and the
mission and then a little bit of a backstory an
episode two. Yeah, the team is pretty wild. I love
we have a robot that was made to kill nazis
fucking amazing. Yeah, you know, we have the bride Frankenstegn.
We got Nina Morinsky, which is like the shape of
water kind of character. Ye, Weasel's back because he didn't die,
(35:36):
which I've heard his episode, which is episode four, because
I think it's been said that after the first episode,
each episode will kind of have a backstory laced in
with the story moving forward, kind of like a comic book.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I've heard episode four as weasels and it's tragic,
So I honestly can't for Weasel's tragic backstory. Doctor foss Us,
who is a well known Batman villain, Rick Flax Skiner,
who is the dad of Rick Flagg who Peacemaker killed,
and the Suicide Squad, and Rick Flag's going to be
kind of like the Nick Fury of the DCU because
(36:11):
he from this, he's going to be in Superman and
then he's gonna be in Peacemaker season two. So and
Frank Grillo, who voices him, plays him in live action.
That's another big thing that James Gunn set up is
that anyone who voices these characters, whether it be animated,
video game, whatever, is going to carry on the character
in live action. Yes, really really joke and I joke
to see David Harper in live action as Frankenstein. Eventually
(36:34):
that's going to be incredible. Yeah, that's going to be
so great. So the mission they basically get sent on
is Amanda Waller Son's Rick Flagg Senior with this group
of monsters to protect Princess Alana over in. It's like
Polka stand I cannot pronounce whatever the fake country is,
(36:55):
and it's basically like a government ploy to protect. So
they have the you know, the access to oil and
resources like that. And there is a Amazonian sorceress named
Circe who is invading the country with this group of
(37:15):
right wing spoof tons of Themyscira. I love that the
abbreviation is soft. That's so fucking funny if that's on
one of their hats. So insane. And they have agreed
to help Searcy in order to her to then go
take over Themyscira and have them join her. I actually
(37:39):
I just recently. I just announced this last week, but
I recently started writing for Collider. It's like a very
big news website, and I just dropped an article explaining
the touns of Themyscira and how they are vastly different
in the comics, because the tons of Semyscua in the
comics are not the same as they are today. But
I think the way James Gunn wrote them is very
much more modern and take and makes a lot more
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sense thematically, because the DC comics version is takes a
lot away for a lot of away from like what
Themiscia was supposed to stand for. So it makes sense
that he took something and flipped it on his head
and made it new. There's something going on with this
princess because she is way too forward with rock flag,
and there's gotta be something going on there, right, Like
(38:24):
I can't be the only one thinking this. There's gotta
be something, something weird going on with what she actually wants.
I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I think that the first time I kind of noticed
something is like, Okay, she's like cute princess whatever, it's
like Disney princess, like kind of slutty. But I think
the first time I noticed like something was weird is
when they're like sitting at table and they're all kind
of eating their own you know meal. The Nazi robot
(38:53):
is drinking like diesel fuel and everyone has their own
kind of like you know meal that's suitable to them.
Weasel's chasing like a drumstick off the table and whatever.
But you kind of you see the queen and she's
just like this like rotting, like like drooling kind of corpse.
And that was when I was kind of like, there's
(39:15):
there's some some weird going on here like this and
with with the princess, for sure, but weirdly enough, it's
like if her mom would die, she'd be the queen,
So then what's the problem, like, why why is she
still alive in this like vegetative state. I don't know, weird.
I thought that was I thought that was strange. Rick
Flaggs senior is Rick Flagg's dad, so it's the same
(39:36):
Rick Flagg from both the Suicide Squad movies. But he
dies in yep, the second Suicide Squad movie, and they
kind of addressed that in in the in the show.
But yeah, so Rick Flagg has to be an older man, right.
I think he said he had him when he was eighteen,
so he's got to be I mean, Rick Flagg wasn't
a young guy, so he's got to be I don't know,
(39:59):
fifty sixty, yeah, something like that. And this princess looks
like she's like barely eighteen, and it's just like horny
as I don't know, it was wild.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
The dude tries to stick to his guns and be like, no,
I'm here for a job, and then he just kind
of just let's that happen.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, you say no to that. That's crazy, And they're
like outside, they're like outside the bathroom as it like
the walls are being broken down and the monster the
creature commandos are I was like the guard is trying
to get in and they're like, no, no, we're not
going to let you interrupt this.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I love the line where he's like, oh, he's older,
maybe he'll last a minute. Episode two what I really
loved about it because, like we both kind of said,
episode one feels very much like the Suicide Squad, just
kind of you know, monsters and weirdos and a little
bit different characters. But I think episode two is kind
of what really separated from the pack with the origin
(40:53):
of the Bride. Yeah, and what a fucking awful, terrible,
bad story, but great for storytelling purposes obviously, way to
like flip it on its head to make Frankenstein kind
of the bad guy in terms of like the Bride,
and to have the Bride fall in love with their creator,
(41:15):
Like that's such a I think that's a really cool
twist and take on the character. And I love how
they intercut it between the battle between the Bride and
serious and I think that was like a really cool
way to weave it in together. And yeah, kind of
like you said, with the animated movies, it's the same
studio that makes these movies animated this series, and the
animation is fucking dope. Like the action looks awesome, Like
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everything looks like pretty fucking great.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
And it's adult theme too, so you do get the
sex and the email. Yeah, relative nudity and stuff like that.
But I couldn't help but feel during that episode and
her story, like I couldn't help but feel for Frankenstein
and for the monster, Frankenstein Monster David David Harber's character,
(42:04):
because he all he wanted was love, and I mean
he maybe maybe went about it the wrong way, but
he had the doctor create a female monster for him.
She didn't She was like a child, you know, like
she couldn't love him, she was terrified of him whatever.
But then she ends up falling in love with the doctor,
(42:29):
and I just like, and then you have David Harber's Frankenstein,
like what witnessing them like having sex, and I just
felt felt for it, like he might have been, you know,
like a piece of shit, hunting her down, you know,
trying to like force her to love him whatever, which
which sucks. But at the end of the day, I
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did feel for him because he couldn't have loved a human.
But then she ends up loving a human, and so
it just I don't know, I felt terrible. It was
brutal both ways. Definitely very brutal for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And I think that's great. That's just great storytelling that
the way that you can make these like I love
that we're in a time where things aren't black and
white anymore. Things are very much in the gray area
of And I think probably the series is probably main
premise is going to be like, how are these quote
unquote monsters like actually human? You know, like just because
they're not humanoid or whatever or corpses or you know,
(43:26):
like they still have human tendencies, they still have feelings,
they still have everything else a human does. Yeah, I
think that's like a I don't know. James Gunn just
has this way of balancing like humanity with tragedy and
comedy at the same time. And there's not like a
lot of creators that do it quite like him, to
(43:49):
be honest, that can really balance the tone where it
doesn't feel too goofy when it's being funny, and then
it doesn't feel too like stark contrast when it's being tragic.
You know, I don't know how he does it, but
he balances that tone so so well. Yeah, and he
just continues to do, and I think I think this
week's episode is GI Robots episode.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm really excited to see GI Robots origins because I
know there's like many of them that they built and
he's probably the only one left. So I'm kind of
excited to see that. And I'm sure there's gonna be
some like you know, World War two flashbacks and show
yeah cool, him mowing down some.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, telling up some Nazis. Yeah, I think. I mean
the way James Gunn did Guardians three. I mean I
think Guardians two was kind of the softer film and
that was mostly like Star Lord's backstory, but with Guardians three,
in Rockets backstory, it was so tough to watch, like
(44:48):
it I was on verge of tiers like several points
watching that movie. But I think it's it's it's cool
kind of how he's doing that with each episode of this,
Like the Bride's episode was pretty pretty rough, and it's
gonna be interest seeing like g I Robot cool and
Doctor Phosphorus cool. But I think when you when you
get to weasel, that's gonna be a a hard for
(45:11):
him to do and be like, yeah, I've kind of
heard a little bit as to like, you know why,
it's rough, but yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough,
tough to achieve and tough to tough to watch, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
At the same time, Oh yeah, totally, but I'm I'm
really excited to see what this series has to offer
in a future episode. It's like, it's it's good to
feel I've been saying this about a lot of things lately.
I feel like it's been like a good bounce back
year for comic book movies in general, Like Marvel had
a really good year with like X Men ninety seven
and Devile Wolverine and Agatha.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Star Wars people are you know, people are liking Skeleton Crew,
which is nice to see people possitive about anything Star Wars.
And then now this is like another like very highly
rated James gunn property, and it's just a nice used
to be in like a positive state of fandom for once. Yeah,
it feels good. I'd rather everything be good than be terrible,
(46:07):
you know, So it's it's nice. Next year looking forward
to the continuation of James Gun's universe, we got Superman,
then we got Peacemaker season two pretty much right after
Superman's in July and then Peacemaker is in August. But
I want to hear your excitement level for those because
those are both again James very you know, James Gun
heavy things. I think Superman's going to give us something
(46:30):
new that we haven't seen from James Gun because I
don't obviously, I don't think it's going to be like
as raunchy or provocative as some of his other DC offerings,
But I think it's going to have what he has
in everything, which is heart, and I think that's probably
the most important thing with Superman. But how are you
feeling about these next two things coming up?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I'm excited to see what he does with Superman. I
didn't love super Love the first season a Peacemaker, it
was it was okay, like it was enjoyable, and then
the ending kind of just got weird, like when they
kind of like Havel showed the Justice League and you're like,
what is this even mean? And that was kind of
in a weird time with the old DCU with like
(47:12):
Black Adam and Henry Cavill doing a post credit scene
like all that stuff. It all just felt like weird,
And yeah, MESSI and DC just did not have. They
were not on the same page with any of their properties,
So I'm I'm more excited for Superman. I'm excited to
see what he does with Superman because I feel like
I loved Henry Cavell a Superman. He was he was perfect,
(47:35):
he was so good, and uh, it's got to be
better than Man of Steel, which I don't think like
story wise or like like art art design wise, It's
it's gonna be that hard to achieve. I think it's
just mostly portraying the character as well as as as
(47:58):
Henry Cavill did, so gonna be interesting to see for sure.
I'm definitely gonna watch Peacemaker, and I hope that they can.
I hope now that he's kind of like at the
head of DC, that that Peacemaker series will have more
kind of gravity to it, and he can. I'm sure
he can tie more into it and make it more interesting.
(48:19):
So I guess it's with him being the head of
DC now it makes season two more interesting. But uh, yeah,
I wasn't a big fan of saone, but very excited
for Superman. Interested to see kind of what happens there.
You know, there's a lot of cool characters and set
photos and stuff like that, So it's gonna be interesting
(48:41):
to see what it looks like on film.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, I'm very excited to see the final product of
that because everything he talks about it just instills faith
in me for it. Like he wrote the script because
he planned on writing the script before he even took
over DC. He kind of think you're revealed that in
interview recently. The same with Creature Commando's he was writing it.
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He's like, after Suicide Squad and peace Maker, he just
decided to write it and then kind of all the
chips fell as they may. What I love about Superman
is like he talked about his like dad passing and
like him and like him and his dad going seeing
like the old school Chris Free Superman, and how he
kind of wants to create that same feeling. And I
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love Man of Steel. The ending is pretty terrible, but
I do love Henry Cappo kind of made me like
like Superman. I never really liked Superman as a kid.
I was always a Batman guy, and he was the
first rendition where I was like, oh, I get it,
like I get Superman now. And now there's been some
great other stuff like there's that My Adventures of Superman
(49:45):
animated series on Adult Swim that I think is fantastic
and like a great entry point into Superman if you're
not familiar with Superman at all. I just think James
Gunn gets it. He like I guess when it comes
like any comic book characters. I mean, look what he's
done with the most obscure Z level characters in Marvel
n DC and made them so important. Like he's made
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us all emotional about a fucking talking raccoon, Like what
is he gonna do with the biggest superhero of all time?
Like that's right? I don't know like that, I feel
like he's gonna knock that out of the park. And
I think another thing I like is that with all
the characters involved with that movie especially, is that it's
already going to be like a very lived in world.
It's not gonna be another origin story of Superman. It's
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gonna be kind of like early year Superman, but he's
already going to be the Man of Steel and just
in a world full of all these crazy ass other
characters that we never even got to with the DCU
because they were, you know, had their heads up their
own ass the whole time and never could get there.
They were in their own way for sure, so's it's
it's exciting to kind of we're gonna be like literally
(50:51):
thrust into this new world of DC. It's obvious we're
both pretty big fans of James guns so it's pretty
evident that we were confident and stoked in when he's
gonna pull off with this connected universe. Moving forward, It's
hard to tell because after that, you know, we got
Lanterns and Supergirl and everything like that. So it'll be
(51:12):
interesting to see where things go. But I think the
future is very bright for DC, and Marvel's kind of
already done a thing where they've definitely looked at themselves
being like, okay, we got.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
To fix shit. Yeah, we gotta pivot kind of think.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
About things a little more, you know. So it's I
like that we're probably going to be in a state
where it's like both are putting out quality stuff because
I think it's only going to make each other better
to have competition within each other. So I don't know,
I'm sorry to see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I think James Gunn, working so closely with Marvel two,
he can definitely take a lot from them and apply
it to the DC stuff, for sure. But uh, I
don't know. I think I mean, we should probably have
a trailer for that Superman movie. Maybe super Bowl soon. Yeah,
I've heard this month. Oh wow, Okay, that's sooner than
(52:06):
I thought I would expect they would wait for the
super Bowl. So when's the release for that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
In July July? Like July eleventh? Okay, Okay, that's crazy
because within a week of each other. It's Superman in
Fantastic four, of the most important movies for each brand.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, they can't walk fast four up again, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Nope, they sure can't. But I will say I was
at San Diego Comic Con and they showed a Sissle
reel for Fantastic four, and it was stuff that they
just shot like test footage and like previous animat ICs,
and it looked like some of the coolest shit the
MC's ever done. And it wasn't even real footage. So
I can't wait to see an actual trailer from Fantastic
(52:50):
four and like a set photo or like a photo
of Pedro Pascal came out with him with you know,
the the gray on the sides and the mustache, and
I'm like, and anyone who doubted this casting, I think
you're insane.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
I was a doubter. Ill, Well, I'm excited for it.
I love the Fantastic Four, so I'll be I'll be
very keen on that movie. Yeah. Same.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
So yeah, July is a massive month next year for
the superhero genre for sure. But Nick, thank you so
much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Thank you for having me, no problem.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
But before we get out of here, please let her
know where they can find you. What multi solution is
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of James Gunn's DCU with Creature Commandos, is animated series
on Max. My cost this week is Nick of Molotov Solution.
Welcome to the show Man.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
What's up everybody?
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Thanks for having me, Sean, super stoked to have you here.
Super Stoked to talk some dc and some other things.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Some exciting stuff, exciting times in the I guess in
the realm of the DCU is there calling it now?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
I would agree, so stoke to get into that. But
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Speaker 1 (06:04):
That was Maltov solution with Mortis Imperium. I know this
is two out of three singles. I know you guys
have been kind of sitting and working on this new
music for a long time. So how's it feel to
have it out there? Finally?
Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's been great. Their reaction has been overwhelmingly positive. Yeah,
it was like we were sitting on it for quite
a while, so it's been very nice and cathartic to
kind of actually get it out there see what people
are thinking. But we're about to conclude trilogy. The first
first drop of these three songs this week.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Very awesome that if you haven't seen the videos, they're
very insanely cinematic and all get darker as they go along.
Very cool to see those in music videos because I
feel like it's not like a broken worker for anyone
who listens to constantly. But I think the music video
is like a lost art nowadays. It's kind of coming
back a little bit, but it's cool to see such cinematic,
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dope thought out like music videos.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Dylan at Versus Studios, he caught our eye with spirit
Box and some of the video work that he had
done for them, and it was just beautiful, like cinematic stuff,
and that's really what me and Robbie really wanted to
go for. He killed it on our music videos and
now he actually since since doing Hours, he's released a
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couple more with spirit Box and they have like millions
of views after only being out for a week, so
they're crushing it. Hopefully we can piggyback off of a
little bit of their success too with using Dylan but
yeah there, I mean, he does amazing work. Anybody's looking
to get some cool cinematic stuff done should definitely reach
out to Dylan at Versus Studios.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Yeah, for sure, dude is the real deal. That's for sure.
So twenty twenty five obviously right around the corner. Does
All Top have anything planned? You got some shows? Anything
coming next year? You can tease nothing in.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
The realm of shows or tours, fortunately that I can tease.
We will definitely have some more music coming out in
twenty twenty five. We're kind of just getting started right now,
so they're twenty twenty five should be a pretty exciting
year from alotav.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Good to hear. I know, I know everyone was stoked.
As soon as you guys brought the socials back, it
kind of just exploded. So it's good to see. Yeah,
we're very excited diving into the pop culture talk. We
just got a new trailer for twenty eight Years Later,
the first trailer for the movie coming out of June
twentieth of next year, and this is a continuation of
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the twenty eight Days Later franchise. I guess now it's
a trilogy, though I'm sure most people would want them
to forget the second one, but Alex Garland and Danny
Boyle weren't attached to that one for whatever reason, but
they are back for this one. This one stars Anreytanno, Johnson,
Ray Fines. I know Killian Murphy is a producer on
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this movie, and I know there is some behind the
scenes photos that may indicate that he might play a
role in this movie as well. But Nick, what did
you think of this trailer?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I thought it looked cool. You don't get a whole
lot from it. They do a lot of like good
cutting and cropping to kind of keep things more secretive
as you're watching it. But I don't know. I'm a
big fan of the franchise. I think the first movie
was insane and just a cool, like unique spin on
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zombie films. The second one, like you said, I think they,
you know, might want to forget it. I don't remember
too much of it, so I may have already forgotten,
and I know that it was like a little more
action oriented maybe yep, I can't I can't remember specifically,
like a little less horror, a little more action. But
this one looks cool. Aaron Taylor Johnson's pretty awesome. I
really liked him in Bullet Train. He has Craven coming
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out soon too, and you know, I don't know how
how to feel about any Sony Spider Verse movies, but
I'm still excited. I'll probably watch it after it's out
of theaters and streaming somewhere, but I don't know. It
could be cool. I like Craven. Craven's one of my
favorite Spider Man villain, so we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, I talked a little bit about that last week.
I love Aeron Talller Johnson, and he's probably the main
reason I'm going to watch that movie because I feel
like that movie could have been any other movie other
than a Craven movie and been the same movie, honestly. Yeah,
but yeah, I do love Aaron Tayler Johnson. So he's
also going to be in No Spratu and I'm coming
on Christmas too, so he's got a pretty stacked a
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couple of months.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah. No Spratu looks really awesome. I'm really hyped so
that my wife is like incredibly excited for that movie.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, Sam's pretty stoked for it too. I'm definitely the plan.
My plan in my mind is seeing that on Christmas. Days.
That's the hope, that's the dream.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Oh yeah, we should get tickets. We should. We should
line that up in advance and go see a Christmas
Day that'd be awesome. Christmas night maybe after all the
family festivities and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Are done, to close out a nice a nice day
with some some vampire.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Shit, some sultry vampire horror.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, some some really nice I'm sure, super upbeat and
not dark at all. It's like, like, what you said,
this trailer didn't give away pretty much anything, which I like.
It's kind of refreshing for a trailer. Nowadays, a lot
of trailers just you know, they give away the whole
fucking movie and then they're like what, why the fuck did.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I watch that?
Speaker 1 (11:23):
So it was cool for them to be constrained and
just enough of a tease. And people are hyped about
this movie. Every time I post about it, everyone's like, fuck, yes,
like so hyped. So I feel this is gonna be
a big one and eyeing a summer release. Obviously, Sony
has a lot of faith in it.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
I know.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sony gets rightfully so dogged on for their Spider Man
movies that don't include Spider Man, but they do do
some other stuff that's actually pretty good, like this movie,
which I have full faith that it will be good,
especially with Alex Garland, and I believe they're planning for
another movie after this too. I think that was the
whole kind of.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Oh wow, what would it be twenty eight decades later,
you know.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
I would be I'd be out for that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Actually, if they do do something like that, I think
they missed the bucket because there I think it's I
think there's somewhere about twenty years out from the original
right now, and they kind of missed the bucket.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Alex Garland returning to just write something is pretty refreshing,
I think, because he's been kind of in this writer
director kind of mode for a long time now. You
released movies like Ex Machina Civil War this year men,
so he's kind of been on that track for a while.
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So for him to gravitate back towards this franchise and
be like, oh, yeah, I'm just gonna write and work
with my friend Danny Boyle, I think is a pretty
big deal to make happen, and I'm excited to see
what comes out of it. With him just focusing on
writing rather than writing and directing, which I think he
is fantastic of both. To be honest, I'm.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Seeing a thumbnail right now for twenty eight years later,
and it has Killian Murphy's face on it, and he's
like a character in whatever. Like the trailer preview is,
did you see him in the trailer? Am I crazy? No?
Speaker 1 (13:15):
The only thing that people thought they saw him in
the trailer was like this really fucked up, infected looking guy.
And I think it's just a really scrawny dude with
similar hair to Killian Murphy that people are like, oh man,
it's Killian Murphy and he's dead. And I'm like, I
get where you're seeing because it does resemble him. But
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I don't think they would give that away in the
in the first teaser. That seems like kind of insane,
especially for a trailer that had barely any dialogue in it.
They're just gonna give away Killian Murphy cameo in. It
doesn't really make sense what you may be seeing. If
it's from a page called screen Culture, they are the
worst and they make fake trailers and I hate them.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I should be the worst. Now it's some cage studio.
I think it is a fake trailer that's from two
months ago. So yeah, all right, that's fake fake news.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Oh yeah, but definitely fake, definitely fake. It's it's hard
because some of them, like especially the thumbnails, look like
really convincing and really good, and it bums me out
how some people fall from.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, there was so much hype for this movie because
they announced it like a while back, and people were
going crazy. So give some people some time to make
some fake shit. Take advantage now.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Each week I like to have our now watching section
where me and my guests talk about what we've been
watching recently. Whether it's in theaters, on streaming, new or old,
doesn't matter, Nick, what have you been watching.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I haven't actually been to the movies much at all lately,
which is kind of a bummer because there has been
some good stuff coming out. I can't remember the last
movie that I saw in theaters. It might have been
Doomed too, I had. Again, I haven't been going. I've
been I've been busy. I just bought a new house
and I've been dealing with all that stuff. So we
haven't had a ton of time to like get out
and go to the movies. But we have been home
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a lot. We just finished watching the Penguin. We also
kind of just finished watching Showgun, like we finished Showgun
and then we kind of jumped right into The Penguin
and then binged through the Penguin one week when we
were sick. Those are both phenomenal. I think Showgun is
probably one of my favorite shows I've ever watched, Like
it's just so well done, so beautiful. Can't even give
that show enough credit because it was amazing. Penguin was
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really good too. I don't know, like exactly how I
feel about the Batman universe and the Penguin and all
the characters in general, Like I just don't I don't
know quite how I feel about it, how I would
rank it alongside the other Batman's you know, I will
say the Penguin was an amazing show. I think it
was like kind of like the Aaron Taylor, Johnson and
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Craven thing that we were talking about earlier, where it
could have just been any other movie. I feel like
this show could have just been any other show. It
could have been any other MOB show, and it would
have still been amazing at the same time, Like you're not,
especially for most people that don't have a lot of
background with DC, especially with like the Gotham crime families,
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but it was just such like, I don't know, I
loved it. I thought it was a great show. I uh.
I highly recommend Penguin a lot to a lot of
people too that haven't watched it yet. But yeah, I
don't know, I don't how do you feel about this
new about the Batman universe? Batman two not even finished
being written yet. It feels like a huge dropped ball
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to have this like amazing Penguin show and then not
even have like a release date for The Batman too yet.
I mean it's not even written, so there's no release date,
but it just feels weird.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
I really liked the Batman, probably like the Penguin even
more than the Batman, probably because mostly what you said,
it could have been anything else and it would have
been fine. And I think it's probably the most approachable
Batman thing ever because anyone can watch it. You don't
even need to have watched The Batman. Obviously. It adds
in some nice kind of like oh, wow, that's that
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person from the movie, or oh that's how this connects.
And then the ending of it is it's kind of,
you know, a massive kind of a lot of tie
ins to what could happen in Part two and everything
like that, but you could still watch it and enjoy
it and not even know anything about the other movie
or anything. And I think that's a big plus and
a testament to what that show did is to how
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it could pull that off, because I don't think a
lot of shows can. And I'll talk about another show
that I think is doing the opposite and I don't
really like what it's doing in that kind of way
connecting to the movies and stuff. But yeah, it's hard because,
like people have tried to make this comparison all the time,
would you compare how would you compare The Batman to
The Dark Knight? But I always I say, like, no,
you should compare the Batman to Batman Begins if you're
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going to compare anything, And it's it's hard because you
can see it's like, oh, I probably would put the
Batman over Batman Begins, or they're very close, and if
it's already at that level, then the second one could
possibly maybe be Dark Knight level. It's hard to tell,
because I mean, The Dark Knights one of my favorite
movies of all time, and it's you know, obviously one
of the acclaimed kind of movies of all time, was
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one of the best villain performances ever. And I'm fine
with waiting. I know, it kind of sucks. It just
kind of suck the momentum out of having this amazing
show and then we're gonna have to wait two years
for to see him again, because he's obviously going to
be in Part two. But I'd rather them wait than
rush something too At the same time, you know, I
feel like that happens too much, where things just get
rushed and they put out and then it's kind of whatever.
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And I would rather wait than you know, have them
capitalize on something.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, I also am starting to feel so how you
said you compare the first Batman movie more to Batman Begins,
But I think like after watching The Penguin, I'm starting
to get more of like a almost like a Tim
Burton Batman movie vibe from it. Like those ones were
a little bit more clowny and campy and cartoonish. But
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I think they just did a better job with the
immersion into Gotham, and I think that's probably what The
Penguin was four. But I even the one like kind
of not at the end where he's like in his
suit has that like gold vest and it's really like
reminiscent to the penguin from the animated series, and I
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feel like the animated series to me ties more back
into those like Tim Burton movies. This is you know,
probably frowned upon by a lot of DC fans. I
liked Batman Begins, and I like The Dark Knight, but
The Dark Knight Rises kind of just didn't do it
for me as a wrap up for that trilogy, and
for me, again just the bad opinion, but for me,
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it really hurt the brand of the rest of the
other two movies because I felt like Batman Begins with
such a good start, and then The Dark Knight Rises
was such a good follow up, and then to me,
the third part really floundered and kind of hurt the legacy.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I guess of that trilogy.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Such a bad way, because I mean, obviously Heath Ledger died,
but I just didn't I wasn't in love with the
setting of those films. I guess it was like kind
of the grittiness that they were going for. You could
see they really translated that into these new Batman films,
like the realism and the grittiness, which is great because
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it seems like it's done better now than it was
in those films. But you just don't have the same
I don't know, like the Batman and the Penguin aren't
don't have as much like gravity. There isn't as much.
You don't have that same like Nolan like bigness that
those movies give you. And I feel like The Batman
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just felt very like low level, which I guess is
good if you're comparing it to Batman Begins, it feels like, yeah,
more like a Batman begins, But I just it didn't
have that kind of same gravity that these Nolan films did.
It's gonna be interesting to see where they go with
Batman too. Definitely, if they can kind of bring that
up to the level of the darkness, it's going to
be something else.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Yeah, I totally agree, and you are totally right that
they make Nottham a more like prevalent character. Yeah, in
these movies than the Nolan movies, which the Nolan movies
you can kind of tell they filmed in like Pittsburgh
and and stuff like that, which is fine. It works
for those movies for what it is but I think
the thing I like the most about this universe is
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that it finally gave us like a detective Batman like,
and I know they kind of put it under this
like crime noir lens, but I really dug that, and
I'm excited to see how they kind of evolve on
that going forward and everything like that. So I'm definitely
interested to see where they go with the second one
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with Villains, with every, the story with with with Everything.
The one series I have been watching that it's kind
of my comparison to the Penguin is Dune Prophecy.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
It's like fine. The story is actually like it's pretty interesting.
It's kind of more Game of Thrones than Dune feeling,
which I think is part of what makes me not
like it as much, because like the tone doesn't feel
like Dune, Like the visual stylings doesn't feel like Dune.
There's even some VFX in it that is like kind
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of wonky and weird, so that like really pulls me
out of it because the anything VFX in Dune is
like so realistic. It's such a jarring comparison, and I
think that's what bothers me, especially after this is coming
after the Penguin, which the penguin. If you you know,
you played the Batman right into the Penguin, everything looks
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stylistically the same, yeah, you know, like the all the tones,
the camera angles, everything looks identical. And I think that's
amazing because I don't think a show to like a
movie to show kind of thing, has ever done anything
like that. And I even saw, like Reeves talked about
how the showrunners and everything made sure that they talked
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to the people who shot the Batman and everything to
make sure it felt and looked everything felt the same.
And I wish Dune did that too. And I know
Deni was a producer on it at one point, but
he isn't anymore. And it's kind of a bummer in
that regard. Like I said, the stories, it's still fine,
it's still pretty good, but it just doesn't feel like Dune,
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even though they say Dune words and you see the
sandworms sometimes. The other big thing that really bothers me
is that it's ten thousand years before Paul Trades is Mooring,
yet we're stilling, still dealing.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
No relationship.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Oh but there is, of course. The main is the
Harconins and the treaties. Now'm like ten thousand years ago,
these motherfuckers were still going against each other, and I
feel like they could have done something like The Penguin,
where it's like it felt like it was his own
thing just in the Dune world, and it definitely does
not feel like its own thing. Yeah, it feels like
the Dune World is just doing something else and it's
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kind of a bum Yeah, to be honest, we.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Watched the first episode and we weren't like enthralled bite
right away, like I think we were show getting the Penguin,
where we kind of just jumped into those and like,
you know, blitzed right through them. But we watched the
first episode and I was just talking about that show
with somebody else, and I definitely agree with you. It
definitely doesn't feel the same like The Penguin did for Batman.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Other than that, I ended up discovering sort of the
show called Devs, which we talked about Alex Garland a
little while ago, and it's an Alex Garland written and
directed mini series basically follows The Silicon Company is run
by Nick and they have this section, secret section of
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the company called DEVS and I'm trying to say that's
not spoiling anything, because it's a really kind of.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
Complicated it's an old it's an old series, so it's
probably okay if he drops some spoilers, I think, right.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Yeah, yeah, it came out in twenty twenty. The whole
thing is that they are writing this code so they
can make a visualization of like a real visuation visualization
of any point in time with any person, anything. And
it deals a lot with multiverse and determinism and a
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lot of like super heady sci fi shit, which is
very much my kind of thing. So I immediately fell
in love with it and just kept going and going
and going, and by the end I was like, this
probably had everything I would want a sci fi property
to having it. And I don't even know why. I
think it just popped up in my Hulu and I
remember someone asking me about it because I've been I've
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talked about how I'm kind of like half and half
with Alex Garland movies, like I really liked Ex Machina.
I don't love Annihilation like everyone loves Annihilation. I didn't
like Men. I think Men's ending is fucking horrendous. And
then I liked Civil War, so I'm like, I'm kind
of having half on his stuff, and someone's like, oh,
have you ever watched Dev's I'm like no, and then
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it just kind of left my mind until I stumbled
upon it on Hulu. I guess at the right time,
but I really really liked that series. Have you watched
that series?
Speaker 2 (26:10):
I think I watched like the first maybe the first
or second episode of it, and then didn't like pick
it back up after. I think I can't remember how
long ago. I guess it must have been in twenty twenty,
twenty twenty one, but yeah, I watched like an episode
and was like, this is pretty cool, and then didn't
get much further.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, it just gets kind of like deeper and deeper
down the rabbit hole as it goes. And it's funny
because I noticed that Kally Spiney's in it, who was
in Civil War and Alien Romulus this year, and I
was like, oh, wow, her and Alice Garland worked together before. Crazy.
Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, speaking of Alien, me and my wife started doing
a marathon trying to get ready for Alien Romulus. I
don't think she had seen any of the Alien movies.
So we went through one, two, and three, and then
we didn't like. I think we got too busy with
house stuff didn't pick it back up. But now Alien
Romulus is streaming, so we gotta we gotta pick that
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back up and get back through it.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Ye, or you're gonna do the Alien Versus Predator too, or.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Just Alien, you know, probably because I think when Alien
Versus Predator came out, I think I was probably like
a teenager. And I don't know, I can't remember when
those movies came out, but in two thousand and.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
Four, yeah, so I was still like early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
Yeah, and I probably would include it just because it
was one of those things that like when it came out,
I was just like a dumb teenager and loved the movie.
So we'll see if I still do or not. So
who knows, we'll see.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
You probably won't, but they are kind of really fun
to watch. Acknowledge how incredibly.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Dumb they are.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yeah, yeah, then it's it's it's it's fine. They're not
even considered canon either. Everything that happens in it is
just thrown out the window anyway. But it's it's totally fine.
I can't wait for you to alien rhyme in this.
It's a pretty great modern amalgamation of kind of all
the alien movies in a way what's still kind of
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doing its own thing. It's a pretty impressive thing that
Vediaas pulled off. Then the last thing I watched, I
watched this movie called Night Bitch, which is Amy Adams
in this movie where she's a mom and her husband
constantly travels for work, and then she thinks she's turning
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into a dog, and that's the premise of the movie.
And I think the point of the movie is there,
and it kind of wraps up in a nice way,
and it's pretty much the whole point of the movie
is that like motherhood is like can be pretty brutal,
and especially when you're kind of in the type of
situation she was in where she's, you know, like she
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gave up her dream job to what she loved to
do to take care of her kid and her husband's
always gone and blah blah blah blah. Like the message
is there. I just think the execution was maybe a
little too weird in campy for me, because it does
get pretty out there. Not gonna not gonna lie to you,
it gets weird. But I don't know if you're into
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watching Amy Adams thinks she's turning into a dog.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Me and my wife liked the campy stuff. We we uh,
we like watching like Hulu horror movies and you know,
like stuff that's not the highest rated and we and
we get super into everything and and and love it.
But like one of our So I watch a bunch
of different animes right now. And and Dan de Dan
(29:32):
is really cool. I'm a huge Bleach fan, Like I
have a Bleach poster somewhere and we haven't hung stuff
up on the walls yet in this office down here,
but huge Bleach fans. So it's awesome that Bleach is back.
It's starting to get pretty pretty cool too. But we
were watching Christmas movies right now, and I can't remember
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if it was like last year, it might have been
two years ago. We watched like the Netflix Christmas movies
and I can't, I can't. I'm trying to think of
right now. Lindsay Lohan did this Christmas movie like a
few years back, and it was very much like weird
(30:13):
to see Lindsay Lohan on a movie, and because she
had been I don't know, out of the public spotlight
for quite a while. But then she did this movie,
and it was very much like a Hallmark Christmas movie,
so it felt really weird. And it's just like Lindsay
Lohan and she has this like her lips are blown
up and her face looks all like you know, juice
(30:33):
stuff and everything. It just looked crazy like she didn't
fit in with the movie at all. But we still
watched it and kind of loved the movie for whatever reason.
But she just did another one this year and I tried.
I tried to google it, but I can't find the
name of the movie anywhere. And it was actually really
good and I can't really Yeah, it was actually really good.
(30:55):
I mean for us, we really, we really enjoyed it.
But it's again it's like goofy can't be shit like that.
So I think this night bitch movie could be pretty interesting.
I think my wife might like it a lot, so
we'll definitely checked out.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
It's called Our Little Secret.
Speaker 2 (31:11):
Oh yeah, yes, yes, yes. The premise is they dated
when they were very young and then she went off
to like follow her career, passion whatever, and they reunite somehow.
Don't want to spoil it, but definitely interesting watch for
especially for people like our age.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
Hallmark movie there.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Yeah. Yeah, it's good stuff, very good stuff, pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
I've been super hesitant to watch it, mostly because she
put out a movie this year too, also on Netflix
called like Irish Wish or something, and I think it's
the worst movie I've seen this year. I watched Madame Webb.
Yeah that says anything.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
My wife is trying to get me to watch Pretty
Boud Irish Wish too, so we'll probably watch it just
because we like the other one. But it wasn't a
good movie by any means, but we enjoyed it. And
it's got the Christmas stuff too, so you know, I.
Speaker 1 (31:58):
Mean, I love a good rom com. I'm a sucker.
I'm a sucker for a rom com. So I get it. No, no,
no shade thrown towards you, whatsoever. I love a good
Let's get into Creature Commandos. So the two episode premiere
dropped last week and we got the beginning of the DCU,
well kind of. It does kind of confirm that some
(32:20):
of the stuff we saw on the Suicide Squad and
some of the stuff we saw on Peacemaker are indeed
cannon to this new version of DCU. James Gun has
also been on record to say, almost everything from Peacemaker
season one is canon, besides the ending scene that had
the members of the Justice League that didn't happen, and
he said season two somehow addresses it. So I'm very
(32:42):
interested to see how that happens. But we get this
new team full of weirdos and monsters, you know, very
very James Gunn, and I want to hear what did
you think of these first two episodes?
Speaker 2 (32:57):
I thought it was cool. So just to kind of
preface for people, the DC movies have largely been dog shit.
Aside from like Man of Steel, maybe the Snyder cut
if you want to like it still just was still
kind of dog shit to me. Yeah, Batman v. Superman,
(33:18):
all the all the Aquaman movies were horrible, so horribly
tone deaf and just awful. Wonder Woman wasn't bad, but
just didn't do a whole lot. I don't know DC.
The DC movies have just been largely dog shit. It's
been a bummer because I I've always been more of
a DC fan than a Marble fan, but the Marvel
movies just surpassed and DC just has always been trying
(33:39):
to play catch up. James Gunn has done a good
job kind of rebooting, and I and I liked the
second Suicide Squad movie a lot, and they mentioned that
in Creature Commando. But animated DC films have been like
my saving grace for DC for like the past decade.
And you know, I meant, I meant to pull up
the list of like a mad DC movies. But there's
(34:01):
a ton of really good Batman movies that they did.
There's a ton of like Justice League, dark Side Doomsday
kind of movies that they did. There's there's so many,
they cover so many different things. They do the killing Joke,
they do like a bunch of really cool like plots
from the comics and kind of unique stuff too. But
their animated films are amazing. And if if anybody listening
(34:24):
hasn't seen a lot of the you know, last ten
years of like DC films, they should definitely check them out.
They recently kind of did a real like a soft
reboot I think on some of them, starting with like
a Superman movie, which is funny because the first like
movie that James Gunn is doing is Superman. I don't know,
I'm excited, I like, I liked, you know, James Gunn
did a great job with the Guardians movies, those were
(34:46):
some of the better films from Marvel, and I guess
Creature Commandos is it's interesting because it's basically just suicide squad,
but they can't use humans, so they're using these like
mom and I mean, so far, it's pretty pretty uh
interesting concept. I think you don't You don't really see
(35:08):
a whole lot of the plot just yet with the
first two episodes, but it's pretty cool. I'm digging it.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Yeah, you pretty much just get the team and the
mission and then a little bit of a backstory an
episode two. Yeah, the team is pretty wild. I love
we have a robot that was made to kill nazis
fucking amazing. Yeah, you know, we have the bride Frankenstegn.
We got Nina Morinsky, which is like the shape of
water kind of character. Ye, Weasel's back because he didn't die,
(35:36):
which I've heard his episode, which is episode four, because
I think it's been said that after the first episode,
each episode will kind of have a backstory laced in
with the story moving forward, kind of like a comic book.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
You know.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
And I've heard episode four as weasels and it's tragic,
So I honestly can't for Weasel's tragic backstory. Doctor foss Us,
who is a well known Batman villain, Rick Flax Skiner,
who is the dad of Rick Flagg who Peacemaker killed,
and the Suicide Squad, and Rick Flag's going to be
kind of like the Nick Fury of the DCU because
(36:11):
he from this, he's going to be in Superman and
then he's gonna be in Peacemaker season two. So and
Frank Grillo, who voices him, plays him in live action.
That's another big thing that James Gunn set up is
that anyone who voices these characters, whether it be animated,
video game, whatever, is going to carry on the character
in live action. Yes, really really joke and I joke
to see David Harper in live action as Frankenstein. Eventually
(36:34):
that's going to be incredible. Yeah, that's going to be
so great. So the mission they basically get sent on
is Amanda Waller Son's Rick Flagg Senior with this group
of monsters to protect Princess Alana over in. It's like
Polka stand I cannot pronounce whatever the fake country is,
(36:55):
and it's basically like a government ploy to protect. So
they have the you know, the access to oil and
resources like that. And there is a Amazonian sorceress named
Circe who is invading the country with this group of
(37:15):
right wing spoof tons of Themyscira. I love that the
abbreviation is soft. That's so fucking funny if that's on
one of their hats. So insane. And they have agreed
to help Searcy in order to her to then go
take over Themyscira and have them join her. I actually
(37:39):
I just recently. I just announced this last week, but
I recently started writing for Collider. It's like a very
big news website, and I just dropped an article explaining
the touns of Themyscira and how they are vastly different
in the comics, because the tons of Semyscua in the
comics are not the same as they are today. But
I think the way James Gunn wrote them is very
much more modern and take and makes a lot more
(38:02):
sense thematically, because the DC comics version is takes a
lot away for a lot of away from like what
Themiscia was supposed to stand for. So it makes sense
that he took something and flipped it on his head
and made it new. There's something going on with this
princess because she is way too forward with rock flag,
and there's gotta be something going on there, right, Like
(38:24):
I can't be the only one thinking this. There's gotta
be something, something weird going on with what she actually wants.
I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
I think that the first time I kind of noticed
something is like, Okay, she's like cute princess whatever, it's
like Disney princess, like kind of slutty. But I think
the first time I noticed like something was weird is
when they're like sitting at table and they're all kind
of eating their own you know meal. The Nazi robot
(38:53):
is drinking like diesel fuel and everyone has their own
kind of like you know meal that's suitable to them.
Weasel's chasing like a drumstick off the table and whatever.
But you kind of you see the queen and she's
just like this like rotting, like like drooling kind of corpse.
And that was when I was kind of like, there's
(39:15):
there's some some weird going on here like this and
with with the princess, for sure, but weirdly enough, it's
like if her mom would die, she'd be the queen,
So then what's the problem, like, why why is she
still alive in this like vegetative state. I don't know, weird.
I thought that was I thought that was strange. Rick
Flaggs senior is Rick Flagg's dad, so it's the same
(39:36):
Rick Flagg from both the Suicide Squad movies. But he
dies in yep, the second Suicide Squad movie, and they
kind of addressed that in in the in the show.
But yeah, so Rick Flagg has to be an older man, right.
I think he said he had him when he was eighteen,
so he's got to be I mean, Rick Flagg wasn't
a young guy, so he's got to be I don't know,
(39:59):
fifty sixty, yeah, something like that. And this princess looks
like she's like barely eighteen, and it's just like horny
as I don't know, it was wild.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
The dude tries to stick to his guns and be like, no,
I'm here for a job, and then he just kind
of just let's that happen.
Speaker 2 (40:14):
Yeah, you say no to that. That's crazy, And they're
like outside, they're like outside the bathroom as it like
the walls are being broken down and the monster the
creature commandos are I was like the guard is trying
to get in and they're like, no, no, we're not
going to let you interrupt this.
Speaker 1 (40:32):
I love the line where he's like, oh, he's older,
maybe he'll last a minute. Episode two what I really
loved about it because, like we both kind of said,
episode one feels very much like the Suicide Squad, just
kind of you know, monsters and weirdos and a little
bit different characters. But I think episode two is kind
of what really separated from the pack with the origin
(40:53):
of the Bride. Yeah, and what a fucking awful, terrible,
bad story, but great for storytelling purposes obviously, way to
like flip it on its head to make Frankenstein kind
of the bad guy in terms of like the Bride,
and to have the Bride fall in love with their creator,
(41:15):
Like that's such a I think that's a really cool
twist and take on the character. And I love how
they intercut it between the battle between the Bride and
serious and I think that was like a really cool
way to weave it in together. And yeah, kind of
like you said, with the animated movies, it's the same
studio that makes these movies animated this series, and the
animation is fucking dope. Like the action looks awesome, Like
(41:39):
everything looks like pretty fucking great.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
And it's adult theme too, so you do get the
sex and the email. Yeah, relative nudity and stuff like that.
But I couldn't help but feel during that episode and
her story, like I couldn't help but feel for Frankenstein
and for the monster, Frankenstein Monster David David Harber's character,
(42:04):
because he all he wanted was love, and I mean
he maybe maybe went about it the wrong way, but
he had the doctor create a female monster for him.
She didn't She was like a child, you know, like
she couldn't love him, she was terrified of him whatever.
But then she ends up falling in love with the doctor,
(42:29):
and I just like, and then you have David Harber's Frankenstein,
like what witnessing them like having sex, and I just
felt felt for it, like he might have been, you know,
like a piece of shit, hunting her down, you know,
trying to like force her to love him whatever, which
which sucks. But at the end of the day, I
(42:49):
did feel for him because he couldn't have loved a human.
But then she ends up loving a human, and so
it just I don't know, I felt terrible. It was
brutal both ways. Definitely very brutal for sure.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
And I think that's great. That's just great storytelling that
the way that you can make these like I love
that we're in a time where things aren't black and
white anymore. Things are very much in the gray area
of And I think probably the series is probably main
premise is going to be like, how are these quote
unquote monsters like actually human? You know, like just because
they're not humanoid or whatever or corpses or you know,
(43:26):
like they still have human tendencies, they still have feelings,
they still have everything else a human does. Yeah, I
think that's like a I don't know. James Gunn just
has this way of balancing like humanity with tragedy and
comedy at the same time. And there's not like a
lot of creators that do it quite like him, to
(43:49):
be honest, that can really balance the tone where it
doesn't feel too goofy when it's being funny, and then
it doesn't feel too like stark contrast when it's being tragic.
You know, I don't know how he does it, but
he balances that tone so so well. Yeah, and he
just continues to do, and I think I think this
week's episode is GI Robots episode.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
Oh cool.
Speaker 1 (44:12):
I'm really excited to see GI Robots origins because I
know there's like many of them that they built and
he's probably the only one left. So I'm kind of
excited to see that. And I'm sure there's gonna be
some like you know, World War two flashbacks and show
yeah cool, him mowing down some.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, telling up some Nazis. Yeah, I think. I mean
the way James Gunn did Guardians three. I mean I
think Guardians two was kind of the softer film and
that was mostly like Star Lord's backstory, but with Guardians three,
in Rockets backstory, it was so tough to watch, like
(44:48):
it I was on verge of tiers like several points
watching that movie. But I think it's it's it's cool
kind of how he's doing that with each episode of this,
Like the Bride's episode was pretty pretty rough, and it's
gonna be interest seeing like g I Robot cool and
Doctor Phosphorus cool. But I think when you when you
get to weasel, that's gonna be a a hard for
(45:11):
him to do and be like, yeah, I've kind of
heard a little bit as to like, you know why,
it's rough, but yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be tough,
tough to achieve and tough to tough to watch, I'm sure.
Speaker 1 (45:25):
At the same time, Oh yeah, totally, but I'm I'm
really excited to see what this series has to offer
in a future episode. It's like, it's it's good to
feel I've been saying this about a lot of things lately.
I feel like it's been like a good bounce back
year for comic book movies in general, Like Marvel had
a really good year with like X Men ninety seven
and Devile Wolverine and Agatha.
Speaker 2 (45:45):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (45:46):
Star Wars people are you know, people are liking Skeleton Crew,
which is nice to see people possitive about anything Star Wars.
And then now this is like another like very highly
rated James gunn property, and it's just a nice used
to be in like a positive state of fandom for once. Yeah,
it feels good. I'd rather everything be good than be terrible,
(46:07):
you know, So it's it's nice. Next year looking forward
to the continuation of James Gun's universe, we got Superman,
then we got Peacemaker season two pretty much right after
Superman's in July and then Peacemaker is in August. But
I want to hear your excitement level for those because
those are both again James very you know, James Gun
heavy things. I think Superman's going to give us something
(46:30):
new that we haven't seen from James Gun because I
don't obviously, I don't think it's going to be like
as raunchy or provocative as some of his other DC offerings,
But I think it's going to have what he has
in everything, which is heart, and I think that's probably
the most important thing with Superman. But how are you
feeling about these next two things coming up?
Speaker 2 (46:48):
I'm excited to see what he does with Superman. I
didn't love super Love the first season a Peacemaker, it
was it was okay, like it was enjoyable, and then
the ending kind of just got weird, like when they
kind of like Havel showed the Justice League and you're like,
what is this even mean? And that was kind of
in a weird time with the old DCU with like
(47:12):
Black Adam and Henry Cavill doing a post credit scene
like all that stuff. It all just felt like weird,
And yeah, MESSI and DC just did not have. They
were not on the same page with any of their properties,
So I'm I'm more excited for Superman. I'm excited to
see what he does with Superman because I feel like
I loved Henry Cavell a Superman. He was he was perfect,
(47:35):
he was so good, and uh, it's got to be
better than Man of Steel, which I don't think like
story wise or like like art art design wise, It's
it's gonna be that hard to achieve. I think it's
just mostly portraying the character as well as as as
(47:58):
Henry Cavill did, so gonna be interesting to see for sure.
I'm definitely gonna watch Peacemaker, and I hope that they can.
I hope now that he's kind of like at the
head of DC, that that Peacemaker series will have more
kind of gravity to it, and he can. I'm sure
he can tie more into it and make it more interesting.
(48:19):
So I guess it's with him being the head of
DC now it makes season two more interesting. But uh, yeah,
I wasn't a big fan of saone, but very excited
for Superman. Interested to see kind of what happens there.
You know, there's a lot of cool characters and set
photos and stuff like that, So it's gonna be interesting
(48:41):
to see what it looks like on film.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
Yeah, I'm very excited to see the final product of
that because everything he talks about it just instills faith
in me for it. Like he wrote the script because
he planned on writing the script before he even took
over DC. He kind of think you're revealed that in
interview recently. The same with Creature Commando's he was writing it.
(49:03):
He's like, after Suicide Squad and peace Maker, he just
decided to write it and then kind of all the
chips fell as they may. What I love about Superman
is like he talked about his like dad passing and
like him and like him and his dad going seeing
like the old school Chris Free Superman, and how he
kind of wants to create that same feeling. And I
(49:24):
love Man of Steel. The ending is pretty terrible, but
I do love Henry Cappo kind of made me like
like Superman. I never really liked Superman as a kid.
I was always a Batman guy, and he was the
first rendition where I was like, oh, I get it,
like I get Superman now. And now there's been some
great other stuff like there's that My Adventures of Superman
(49:45):
animated series on Adult Swim that I think is fantastic
and like a great entry point into Superman if you're
not familiar with Superman at all. I just think James
Gunn gets it. He like I guess when it comes
like any comic book characters. I mean, look what he's
done with the most obscure Z level characters in Marvel
n DC and made them so important. Like he's made
(50:07):
us all emotional about a fucking talking raccoon, Like what
is he gonna do with the biggest superhero of all time?
Like that's right? I don't know like that, I feel
like he's gonna knock that out of the park. And
I think another thing I like is that with all
the characters involved with that movie especially, is that it's
already going to be like a very lived in world.
It's not gonna be another origin story of Superman. It's
(50:29):
gonna be kind of like early year Superman, but he's
already going to be the Man of Steel and just
in a world full of all these crazy ass other
characters that we never even got to with the DCU
because they were, you know, had their heads up their
own ass the whole time and never could get there.
They were in their own way for sure, so's it's
it's exciting to kind of we're gonna be like literally
(50:51):
thrust into this new world of DC. It's obvious we're
both pretty big fans of James guns so it's pretty
evident that we were confident and stoked in when he's
gonna pull off with this connected universe. Moving forward, It's
hard to tell because after that, you know, we got
Lanterns and Supergirl and everything like that. So it'll be
(51:12):
interesting to see where things go. But I think the
future is very bright for DC, and Marvel's kind of
already done a thing where they've definitely looked at themselves
being like, okay, we got.
Speaker 2 (51:23):
To fix shit. Yeah, we gotta pivot kind of think.
Speaker 1 (51:27):
About things a little more, you know. So it's I
like that we're probably going to be in a state
where it's like both are putting out quality stuff because
I think it's only going to make each other better
to have competition within each other. So I don't know,
I'm sorry to see where it goes.
Speaker 2 (51:42):
I think James Gunn, working so closely with Marvel two,
he can definitely take a lot from them and apply
it to the DC stuff, for sure. But uh, I
don't know. I think I mean, we should probably have
a trailer for that Superman movie. Maybe super Bowl soon. Yeah,
I've heard this month. Oh wow, Okay, that's sooner than
(52:06):
I thought I would expect they would wait for the
super Bowl. So when's the release for that?
Speaker 1 (52:12):
In July July? Like July eleventh? Okay, Okay, that's crazy
because within a week of each other. It's Superman in
Fantastic four, of the most important movies for each brand.
Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, they can't walk fast four up again, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (52:28):
Nope, they sure can't. But I will say I was
at San Diego Comic Con and they showed a Sissle
reel for Fantastic four, and it was stuff that they
just shot like test footage and like previous animat ICs,
and it looked like some of the coolest shit the
MC's ever done. And it wasn't even real footage. So
I can't wait to see an actual trailer from Fantastic
(52:50):
four and like a set photo or like a photo
of Pedro Pascal came out with him with you know,
the the gray on the sides and the mustache, and
I'm like, and anyone who doubted this casting, I think
you're insane.
Speaker 2 (53:03):
I was a doubter. Ill, Well, I'm excited for it.
I love the Fantastic Four, so I'll be I'll be
very keen on that movie. Yeah. Same.
Speaker 1 (53:14):
So yeah, July is a massive month next year for
the superhero genre for sure. But Nick, thank you so
much for joining me.
Speaker 2 (53:22):
Thank you for having me, no problem.
Speaker 1 (53:23):
But before we get out of here, please let her
know where they can find you. What multi solution is
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Speaker 2 (53:29):
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three of our trilogy yesterday and that will be dropping
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