Danny Leal of Upon A Burning Body

Fresh off their new album, 'Blood of the Bull," Danny of Upon A Burning Body joins the show to talk about having a song featured in a horror movie, video game soundtrack aspirations, choosing to focus on positivity, and much more! 

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Enjoy the music we love without destroying your hearing. What's
up for want? Book of Posit the podcast in the
first medal Court Herds, the podcast that features members of

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your favorite bands as we explore their love of pop
culture I'm Mee Sean Mott and this week I'm joined
by Danny of A Pond a Burning Body. Welcome to
the show.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hey, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Very very stoked to have you here. When the opportunity arise,
I was very stoked to be able to connect with
someone in the band. One of my close friends, Daniel
de Fonce has booked you guys for a long while.
So yeah, once, once I saw that possibility, I was like, God,
to do it, gotta make it.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's been it's been a minute since we've been, you know,
doing these interviews.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
As often as we have, so it's it's nice to
do that again.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Hell yeah, I'm glad you're excited about it.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
To us, it's you know, how how how do you
grow your band? You know, your market, your your dream,
further your reach, I mean all of the above. You
have to you have to do what you.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Gotta do, and you guys are are a crucial part
of making that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So anytime anybody says thanks for being on them said, man,
thanks for having me on the show.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You know, I just love an opportunity. And this goes
past just this show entirely just any kind of interview.
I just think it's always cool to be able to
try and connect with an artist you're into, you know what,
I mean, to be able to see like a different
side to them than obviously you see on stage. It's
like it's it's nice to peel back the curtain a
little bit, even if it's not totally, just to just

(02:23):
to get a little bit more of like I really
like that band and then you get to know them
as a personal bit. I feel like, I think that's
a really special thing.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Well, I never thought about it like that. That's that's cool.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
It's the same thing I do with like, you know,
like directors and actors and stuff. It's it's cool to
kind of get something else other than what you see
on the screen or on a stage. I feel like
it's just I like to think of things as from
many different sides as you can. So it's always nice
to get that extra little layer to something.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
You know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
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the pop culture talk, we're gonna kick off the show
like we do every week with the meddle coren Nerds
Song of the Week and the song of the Week
this week is from the band Tempers.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
This is WHOA, WHOA what far Doll Wi.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
Game blows egg Time, I'm a go shallow.

Speaker 6 (04:11):
A podcast take on.

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Rare a sas ar a cat La story my cat,
Why no why ask.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Ll bag on.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
I came on lost.

Speaker 5 (04:42):
Bg all dagar retad bar style telling dogs.

Speaker 6 (04:47):
I'll tell you.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
All our song what the other our side out nether
say gys.

Speaker 6 (04:54):
I'm sun runag it s my fo I die, I
die listen, I have a last how my side it's.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
Those sides all sag doll.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
House light so sag doll sig.

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Sign it, I sign it.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
And a B I start ball, I do who come so.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
So I want some barges, wants not d die.

Speaker 6 (06:26):
I died loss loss lost, lost Side It's come side
all you side inside, tell it down, slag s, say

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tell that, Say tell.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
Again. There was Tempers with their song Whoa. This is
off their self titled EP that's out now and the
complete EP is based on the series Severance. And they
saw me post something about Severance and reach out to
me and was like, hey, I don't know if anyone's
done this, but we wrote a complete out album about Severance.
Like the name Temper is based on a very pivotal

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part of Severance. And I thought it was really cool
that not only did this band do this, but they
reached out and they're like, I think you would think
this is cool, and it is really cool. So if
you like what you heard, they have a whole EP out.
You can go check out the artworks. Insane super cool
heavy band based on Severance. I didn't have that in
my banion guard, but I guess I should have very
popular show, so it makes since someone would would write

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something about it. Eventually more recommendations. You can check out
the metal chords pull us FOT five playlists. You can
find the direct link in the show notes below. I
do want to ask a pot of Burning Body specific question,
but it is kind of rooted in pop culture itself.
I saw that day Walker was written for a horror
movie called Devour. That's right, So how did that collaboration happen?

(08:19):
How did that come about?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, so the director for that movie is named Scott Hansen,
and he been a friend of ours for a long time.
He actually filmed and directed our very very first ever
music video called Carlito's Way, and we stayed friends with
him through all those years.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
All these years and he's directed and filmed other music
videos for a Pawn and Burning Body.

Speaker 3 (08:44):
I think he's done, like I don't know, five or
six or maybe more, I can't remember. He started getting
into movies, doing movies and they were going to Amazon Prime,
so we were just like super excited for him and stuff.
And he approached us one day and said, hey, can
I use one of your songs in the new movie
that I'm filming.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's a horror film, of course, you know, We're like, yeah,
it'd be great.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Politics got in the way, which I that's probably a
subject for another show, but it didn't work out. We
told him, Hey, Scott, why don't we just write you
a brand new song for your movie? And he was like,
but that would be even better. And we went in
the studio and we wrote day Walker. It just turned
out to.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Be one of the coolest songs you know, on the on.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
The actual album, so or sort of a win way.
And then the movie I Believe is out now on
Amazon primed. Like you said, it's called Devour.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
And I haven't watched the full movie yet, but he
showed us the clip of where our song sits in
the movie and stuff.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
It's cool scene, awesome, nice little Neil drop. Let's go.
That's awesome because when I first saw the song title,
I was like, day walker, is that a Blade reference?
And then I clicked on the song and then I
you just read the caption it's like for the movie Devour,
the horror movie Devour. I was like, Oh, that's random. Cool.
It's always fun to hear. How of those kind of
stories kind of happen. Obviously as a personal friend, so

(10:03):
there was definitely the connection. There is that like a
thing you guys would love to do. Outside of that
you know, Like I guess the biggest example that comes
to mind is like eistein Kills. You know, they had
a song with Terrifier three and the new I don't
know if it's been confirmed or not, but it seems
like they're going to have a song with Scream seven.
So is that is that something you guys would like
to kind of continue and explore if the opportunity arose

(10:23):
in movies.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Yes, and horror films. I guess the answer is not no,
but it's not. That's not the goal, right, I mean,
Ice nine is sort of like they're that's where they're
they're going, that's their thing, that's that's what they're trying to.

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Do upon everybody. No, not really would never. There's never
really been an interest in horror film placement, although they
put our music in almost any film, and that's fine,
you know.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
I mean, I'll be in a Pixar movie if you know,
I don't care. Movie is a movie and and that's
the big time, So I'm fine there. So we're not
we're not actively chasing horror film, although you know we
also it really started with Kill Shot. The goal and
Kill Shot was to write a song because we.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
All loved getting together and playing Call of Duty online.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
So we wrote that song in hopes that Call of
Duty would pick up and put the song in in
the game, right, And that's what kill shot is.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
That boom, kill shot, what's your body count?

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Like?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Those are all homages to like gamer things that gamers
say when they're playing, you know what I mean, like
what's the body count?

Speaker 3 (11:28):
You know, headshot, kill shot, whatever. So that's what that
song is. And we're still crossing our fingers that Call
of Duty picks that one up. They haven't quite I
don't think we were on their radar just yet, but
hopefully we will be and they'll they'll place that in there.
And if not, maybe that that could go to a
horror film as well.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
Who knows.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
But we would love to be in any and all movies,
no matter the genre. To a to a limit, right
to a limit. There's there's definitely some things.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
That we did it's not for us, but but yeah,
the typical fun things. Uh, I would love it.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's always cool. Like you mentioned a Pixar movie, it
would be really funny because you know those scenes in
movies where heavy music is kind of getting obviously more
and more in the pop culture. You know, like bands
like not Lewis and Turnstile and even Lorna are kind
of ushering that in into the mainstream pop culture and everything.
But there's always like that scene where there's like a
heavy song playing in the background. Now, I always kind

(12:21):
of love those scenes. That'd be perfect for a Pixar movie.
You know, it's like in the background, but it's kind
of the side like it'd be or you go into
a teenager's room and they're like blasting upon a burning
by or something like that would be funny, it'd be cool.
You know, it's the kind of the best best of
both worlds.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
You know. A good example of what you're talking about.
I was so hyped, and I hope I don't butcher it.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
But in Sonic is it Sonic two or three, when
he makes the big old robot Nick, I mean huge
robot Nick and they're in like.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
The mountains or something anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're playing
Walk from Pantera real quick, aren't they?

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yes, Yes, they are. Yes. Now you remember now that
you mentioned that, Yes, that's a good.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
And I man that when that moment, I was like,
I want I want a pond of runnybody to be
in a movie like this, you know what I mean?
Like it was, I mean it was like ten seconds,
but I'll take ten seconds rith I don't care.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, that's all you need. Really was just that little
bit that's super cool? Will you Okay? So you brought
up Call of Duty. What are some other things that
when you were younger growing up that kind of got
you into video games, TV and movies? What was kind
of like the inciting incident for you to fall into
those lanes?

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Man?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
You know, my uncle when I was when I was
coming up, owned a PlayStation and was and was into gaming.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
He was I think he mentioned when I was born.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
He was like fifteen or something like that, like sixteen
because my parents, my parents were young when when I
was a kid going to his house, he was probably
mid twenties, right, So, like he was, he was into
gaming and PlayStation was out at that time, and I would.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Go to his house and we would game all day
and all night. He was just that. I don't that's
what I remember. I've never asked him like did you
work or did you what were you offer that we
probably off of the weekends. I'm gonna assume he was
off of them. He was just gaming on weekend, you know.
And that's kind of what I guess like my earliest
memories of like playing Crash.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Bandicoot and games like that, and like I don't even
I want to say, maybe like Silent Hill or like
a Resident Evil or one of those types of spooky
PlayStation games back back when. I've always just loved the
gaming community.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
And and and all that.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
So being that we we jump online for fun and play,
we said, well, man, why don't we try to blend
what we do for work in that world? At the baseline,
to get a song into a video game is just
like feel good and prideful and like honoring, Like that's
really cool. In a perfect world, it pays you a

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lot of money, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
So either way, I remember, like back in the two thousands,
I had I think it was a PS one game
two is one of the Maddens, and I wasn't even
super into football. I just had Madden. I don't know why,
but I remember like Avenge Sevenfold was on the soundtrack
and like Thrice I think a bunch of bands like
I was listening to at the time, and I was like,

(15:11):
whoa I can't believe they're on an NFL game. That's
so weird, and that's it's the same time like Tony
Opper Skater's happening. You know, those soundtracks are obviously like unbeatable,
but I feel like the new Tony Hawk had like
Turnstile was on it, and the NASCAR soundtrack apparently Dale
and Hurt Junior is like a mad like pop punk
early two thousands, like Scream Oh Fan, and there's a

(15:34):
ton of bands like that on the NASCAR soundtrack. It's
kind of wild. So I'm wondering if, like I feel
like I heard like a Call of Duty soundtrack had
like a pretty good like heavy bands on it. But
maybe I'm thinking of something different.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
But maybe you know, now that you're bringing that up,
there's another song we really wanted Skater Died, that song
that we wrote to be on the Tony Hawk. It
was just us.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
We're independent, so like we can only do so much.
We're writing, we're coming up with the new production stuff
for stage.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
That's a whole different thing. But there's so many things
that we're doing and we're doing it all out of pocket.
Because we're independent.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
It was difficult for us to say, oh, hey, Tony,
can you put our song in there too? Like you
see all the bands that have management and labels and
higher players that are rubbing elbows, and they can make
those things happen very quickly and very easily if they
want to, and us we're just you know, doing everything

(16:35):
by ourselves. So unfortunately we didn't make it into that game,
but that song was also written with the hope that
it would make it into a Tony Hawk Pro Skater game.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
As kids, we love and still to this day love
the gain.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
You know, alls, I'm going to say, I love kind
of wish fulfillment kind of stuff like putting out in
the universe manifesting seeing that can happen. I think they're
going to be remaking Tony Hawk games until the end
of time. Yeah, I'm gonna say there's definitely gonna be
another chance for that to happen. If somehow this gets
to Tony Hawk, make it happen. Dude, skate how can

(17:10):
you not have that a soundtrack?

Speaker 2 (17:12):
I mean, my my, this is this is one hundred
percent fact. My very first skateboard that I ever rode
was the Tony Hawk, the Bird with the skull on
it and that was my first Birdhouse skateboard. I've been
a skateboarder. I started skating when i was man, a young,
young kid, and I've always been into the culture to

(17:33):
this day, I've been skating.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
I'm looking at the skateboard that we made for a
pun of eurnybody hanging right here on the other side
of the room. He in that game would be more
than money or or anything like that. It would just
be because I've been a part of the skateboarding community
and culture for so long.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I mean, I'm wanted an SB shirt right now, you
know what I mean. Yeah, it's not a joke. It's
I love, love, love skateboarding.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
So yeah, Tony, if anybody knows Tony, anybody wants tagg Tony, right,
let's just do it that way.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
We got to go get it somehow.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Man, I'll hope for you guys, cause that'd be that
would be very very sick and dude, that board was
a board you could get in toniok one, I remember,
and that was the best because like, tech decks were
so huge then, and I remember a lot of the
tech decks were like there were boards you could get
in your life too, but they were like boards you
could get in the game. Yeah, and that was definitely

(18:25):
one of them. That's like one of the most popular skateboards.
Like you you mentioned it and the picture flashed my brain.
I'm sure it did it for anyone anyone listening who
has played those games, like that's one of the most
iconic skateboard decks ever.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
Yes, yes, that's the most one.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
To me, it's the one of the most iconic skateboards ever.
And it was partially probably because I'm biased because it
was my first skateboard. But I rode that thing until
it was a plank. There was no concaate, it was
no tail is flat. I wrote it till it was flat,
and it is why I wish I kept it. And
I don't know what happened to it. I couldn't say
you moved here and there all over the place.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
And it just probably you know, you never think of
those things when you're younger, and then when you're older,
like man, I wish I kept that. It happens to
me all the time too, because a lot of money too. Yeah,
that too the same for me because it's like I
had I grew up with Pokemon, so it's like I
had a binder of Pokemon cards, and I know some
of those o G cards are worth like a ton

(19:16):
of money and more just to have some of them,
because some of them are really cool.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
You know.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
I had the card you got when you went and
saw Pokemon two thousand and Yeah. I had like a
just a shelf of VHS tapes and a bunch of
Classic Disney ones and I was like, oh, the ones
in like the thick, like the plastic, plastic, you know
exactly what I'm talking about, And those are worth made.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Yeah, I wish I kept a lot of my skate shoes, like,
for instance, Chad muscos of one of my favorite skateboarders.
So I was a few favorite skateboarders when I was
coming up, and Chad was one of them.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
And I owned.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Probably three or four pairs of some a sorted of
his Circa skateboards, not his ES or S skate shoes,
but when he went to Circa, I owned a few
pairs of those. And I mean I've looked on eBay
everywhere to try to locate a pair of those.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
And you just cannot You just can't buy them.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
And if you do see them, I mean, who knows
how much they are a thousand and fifteen hundred or
something like that. You know.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
I recently snagged a pair of Stevie Williams signature shoe,
the black and gray one that like is swoshy, and
I had to pay up a little bit on eBay
for him, but I was like, whatever, I just want
that shoe again and to own that.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
And so same thing like you with the Pokemon cars. Man,
There's just shoes that I used to own out there,
like Josh Kayless. You know, there's just certain color ways
that you just can't you just.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Can't buy them, you know.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, yeah, dude, I feel you there. Did you watch
the Tony Hawk doc? It came out a few years ago.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Until the wheels fall off, I'm pretty sure I've seen
multiple new things that he's been putting out.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
I can't I can't remember if I I'm sure I did.
I'm sure I did.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
I watched most everything skateboarding and boxing. I watch pretty
much everything. I'm pretty caught up today with like SLS and.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Everything, you know, Like I watched it in the mindset
of thinking like Tony Hawk is, you know, easily the
most famous skateboarder of all time. There will probably never
be anyone more famous than him on skateboarding obviously, but
I was like, I'm curious to what's in the stock
because from the outside looking in, you're like, oh, his life,
dude has it made, Like you know, he's just been
the guy forever, and seeing how he how he came

(21:35):
up at skateboard with his dad being involved in a
lot of like the skate competitions and him trying to
distance himself away from that so we didn't get favoritism
and all that stuff and just some of the in
between stuff and even him now and I know, like
Rodney Mullen, like they got the name of the doc
because in part of the the whole thing, Rodney Mullen's
like this is in our DNA, like this is in

(21:56):
our blood, Like we're never going to stop doing it,
no matter how now, hurt, we get, whatever, Like until
the wheels fall off, we will be doing this. And
I was like it crushed me because it's like the
same with music or any any person who's involved with music,
especially like heavy music or alternative music's. I was like,
I have never resonated with someone saying something so hard,

(22:17):
even if he wasn't talking about that specific thing, it
applies the same way, and I was like, I could
never get this out of me, regardless if I'm playing
in bands, not playing in bands, Like any everything I
do is involved in music. Like almost everything in my
life I can attribute to music in some way. And
I was just like, damn until the wheels fall off?
For real? Wow?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Yeah, funny story. Since we're just talking, you know that
this is just more of a free, freeform conversation. Good
friends of ours in the band called Gideon. You've heard
that band?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Oh yeah, I love you idiots those guys.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
So I believe their new album is called something like
Till the Wheels Fall Off or something like that.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
They have a song.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, So there's a song on our new album. It's
called Curse Breaker. There's a line in the in the.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
Song because FN game to me, this is legacy, right,
and uh I changed it to which I loved that
line actually better, but I changed that line from its original.
The original line was so ride this mother effort until
the wheels fall off, right. And then while we were
writing it and the song was just in the bank

(23:22):
of like this song is done onto the next right,
we saw we were like, look, the homies put out
a new album. It's called The Wheels Fall Off. Maybe
we can't use that anymore. I was, I was bummed out,
But like I said, the new line that I wrote
in place of it, I think I actually like it
better anyway, so worked up.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
It's good when something like that that at first can
seem like a big bummer.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Yeah, yeah, you know, you're like, it's all right, we
got something, we got something new out of we got
something better of it.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
I remember that that single. I mean, it's a great single,
and it's like until the Wheels fall Off, all gas,
no brains, because I think that's the lyrics.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean we're not mad at them.
They didn't know and we love the guys. Hopefully that
brings them success, and hopefully the new lyric from us
brings us the same, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
So I hate how people look at stuff like this
as a competition too. It doesn't need to be, you know,
at all. Just do your own thing and what will
happen will happen.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
No, I think there's enough money in the world to
give everybody.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
If you dispersed it kind of more evenly, I think
there's enough money in the world to let everybody be comfortable.
And I think there's enough success, there's enough people in
the world that can inspire one another to where it's
like you don't have to just feel like you have
to hog it, like, oh, like these people are liking
my band, so I can't promote my friend's band.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
It's like, I don't understand. I honestly wish that.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Like if a Pond comes out with a new album,
all our friends are posting about that album on their Facebook.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
There are hundreds of thousands or millions, and when their
album comes out, upon should be posted. Hey, the new
word Live came out the new gideons?

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Are you like?

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Check it out? Like, like, imagine what we could do
if we all did that, right, you say?

Speaker 6 (25:13):
You know what?

Speaker 3 (25:13):
I know, that's a whole movement that I don't know
if I can nor want to try to lead.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
It's like the graphic goes around every once in a
while and it's like how you can help creators or
artists or whatever, and it's like share buttons free, the
like buttons free, commenting is free. You don't even need
to spend money to support these bands, you know, or
anyone or any type of artists or anything like you
don't even need to financially burden yourself to support them.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
Imagine imagine how big Metallic it was in nineteen eighty
two or nineteen eighty three, right, I mean they were
playing arenas. How did that happen?

Speaker 3 (25:50):
It's because people were telling each other about that cassette. Right, look,
you gotta listen to this, you gotta and that band
was that big back then. How much easier is it
to text your friend like check out this band. You
don't even got to go to their house. Like those
old Metella fans were so like, people get it together,
let's do this, you know what I mean, Like what

(26:12):
are we doing here? Like like guys like you you know,
like hit the subscribe button. It takes oh well, you know,
like so much easier than it was back in the day.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Yet people were treating it like it's a it's just
the way of the world.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
Man.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
But if we could just open the mind up to
be like it is easy and we should support each other,
imagine what could be done.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Right, I could not agree with you any harder. And
I've seen a lot of bands or people like that, like,
like I have a lot of friends who are artists
or musicians, and they've been very supportive of me as
I've been supportive of them, and it's it is crazy
sometimes when or even like I don't know, like I'm
a graphic designer. That's like my my actual job. I

(26:53):
work for myself, and sometimes some people are like how'd
you do that? Or hey, do you have this or this?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
You know?

Speaker 1 (27:01):
And I'll just send them like an asset or something
for free and they're like thanks for doing that, and
I'm like, I was like, that's how this stuff should be,
and we shouldn't be like hiding things from each other
or whatever. We should be sharing the knowledge, or or
even when it's comes to podcasts and they're like, hey,
how'd you get experts on your show? And I'm like,
here's their pr contact. Yeah, see what happens and they're like,

(27:21):
thanks for sharing that. I'm like, if it didn't get
shared with me, I wouldn't have it. So it's like,
why would I hold that from anyone else? It doesn't
make any sense to me, Like everyone should be at
the exact same mentality you said. It's like why not
help each other?

Speaker 2 (27:34):
Right? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, we just need to lose we just.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Need about a half billion more of you, and I
think we'll be all right at the very least.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, exactly, just a small number, just just enough to
where we could kind.

Speaker 2 (27:47):
Of start to you know, snowball it but not asking
too much.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
Yeah, no, I agree with you. Man, it's it's what
it is. But maybe maybe this will turn some people on,
you know, just like that's what it should be. Man,
help each other out.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
You know.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Some of our biggest tours that we've done have been favors.
Like we toured with Five Finger Dead Punch. It is
because I knew Chris Kal from Five Finger and he
was a fan of ours, And it's like we would
have never landed that tour, you know, had it not
been for him being like.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
These are really good dudes, they're amazing musicians, whatever he said,
And we landed that tour, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
And it's like things like that that could be possible,
you know, to do within the network of ourselves and
not have to only rely on outside parties to go
and be at those events and do those things for you,
you know, which are great and valuable and worth every
penny that those managers and labels and agents and all

(28:44):
them do. They're They're extremely valuable. It's just it should
be available to do it within like friends to friends.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Too, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Like, I totally agree. I experienced that on like this
level too. Sometimes there's bands I'm personal friends with, but
then I'll get like a PR thing in, but I
always reach out for the PR Sometimes they'll they'll be like, dude,
you could have just texted me. And I'm like, yeah,
but like you pay these people for the label or
whoever pays these people, Like I want to do this
as the right channels, you know, like if they if

(29:15):
you say, hey, I got this, and they're cool with it,
that's fine. I'm just trying to, like, you know, help
out the people that help me out too at the
same time.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You know, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, those people are valuable. Man.

Speaker 3 (29:26):
Like I said, yeah, when all these interviews that we're
doing again, it just feels really good.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
And we haven't there's we haven't used a PR company
it's so long.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
You know, it's just like I almost forgot that you
could talk to so many cool people and have them
help bring awareness to what you're doing, you know, and
and it's so refreshing and like exciting.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
To do you know again.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'm happy to hear that. And it's cool to see
you guys to be able to do that again, you know. Yeah,
even if it's been a while, it's it's cool to
get back into the swing of those kind of things,
like the kind of non traditional promotion stuff that's different
than just you know, stepping on stage and stuff on
your social media and putting out music videos and stuff
like that. It's cool to step into the other, the

(30:11):
other side of things. Yeah, so you said you're a
big video game person. Are you into TV and movies
at all?

Speaker 2 (30:17):
Yeah? Yeah, No, we love watching TV shows. We love
watching movies. The New Fresh Prints that they did, we've
been keeping up with that one. We just did the
the new season of that. I think it was season three.
I think There's Three Stranger Things.

Speaker 3 (30:31):
Obviously, like everyone in the world, we just watched those
those four episodes. And yeah, just I mean such a
wide range of stuff. Me and my wife had been
into shows like way back in the day, we were
into stuff like Rock of Love I think it was
Brett Michaels and yeah, I Love New York and the
Flavor Flame one before that, and all those ones. We

(30:56):
would watch them all ninety Day Fiance we watched those
and all the off It's such a wide variety of
what we enjoy watching, and the same goes with movies.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
I like all kinds. I mean, obviously from our first
two albums, they.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Were all title tracks of movies, you know, so it
kind of showcased our love for film and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Is the Fresh Prince thing good? I've heard. It's actually
like really good, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Really really good, really really good, and really really different
from the original show. If you're expecting the original Fresh
Princes like continuation, it's not that at all.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Which the original is one of, if not my favorite
TV show ever in the history of all TV shows.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
I mean, it's tattooed right here.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Damn. Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So I love the original and the new one's not that.
But the new one is great in its own way,
you know. So it kept us watching for all their
seasons that they've done so far.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
So we enjoy it because it's basically like a dramatic
reimagining of the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Yeah yeah, it's a little bit. It's a lot more
dark and and rugged.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
It's not like it's not dark, it's just a lot
more dark than you know, Fresh Prince was really bubbly
and kind of outside of like the Dad episode, which.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Like will make me this day, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Like, yeah, that one right there was like whoa, you know,
like they they they went serious on that, but outside
of that, you know, it was it was just a
kind of fun and even when they would conflict, there's
still kind of comical conflicts, you know, and and stuff.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
There's only a few like that one and then the
Carlton one with the gun just just sprinkles of a
few ones that were like that one's that's not that's
not a joke.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
But this new one is like all those episodes, it's
like those few that they did, they're like they're like
all pretty serious like that.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
I think I'm gonna give it a shot. It's because
I remember they announced it and they're like, oh, why
is anyone redoing this? You know, Like ever was like
very much like why would they do this? And then
it started coming out and I remember people talking very
positively about it, and I was like, oh, cool, so
you're inspiring me to go actually check it out. Yeah,
give you three.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Episodes and I think you'll know you know, within those three,
I think that if you want to, you know, continue
it or not not, I think you will.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
It's it's really it that is funny because I do
I do kind of have a three episode rule. If
a show is bringing me in by three episodes, I'm
kind of like no.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Yeah, which which I think is fair, you know what
I mean, Like most people are going to be like one,
I'll watched one episode. I'm like, that's that's that's kind
of you know what I mean, like that you're asking
a lot for people to just produce gold and want
like to pull you in completely. It's like, let's asking
a lot. But yeah, but I think three is fair.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
I started like, if I'm a writer on the show
and I'm trying to pitch it or something right and
I have no time, I have no.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Time, just give a shot. But yeah, you're totally right. Yeah,
one episode. I mean there's some pilots I've watched this
year that I'm like, one episode will get you. But
I think for most shows, yeah, you got to give
it a few to really see if you're you'll vibe
with it, because sometimes it's like a tone thing you
need to adjust to or you know, there's just enough

(34:15):
story or enough character yet to be like, am I
into this?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
Am I not into this? You know?

Speaker 1 (34:19):
So I can totally understand that, but it's it's just
weird you brought up three because there's definitely been shows
where I'm like, gave it three, I'm out, it's not
working on.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely. I think my wife turned
me on to Game of Thrones. I never watched it
as it was like actively going on all those all
those times. So I think Game of Thrones was a
one episode and I'm.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like, I mean, you know what I mean. Yeah, I
was like, okay, but not all shows are producing greatness
like that, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:49):
No, that's that's another level of storytelling that not many,
like you said, not many live up to it. Yeah.
I did recently get into the HBO show Righteous Gemstones.
I'm in the second season and it's been it's kind
of just become like a nice, like background TV show, Yeah,

(35:10):
because it is completely unseerious. It's it's Danny McBride, who
he did Eastbound and Down To He created and starred
in that, I believe, and wrote a lot of it,
but so that it's him. John Goodman I can't remember
the dude's name, but he's from Workaholics and they based
it's like a family that owns a megachurch and it's

(35:33):
it is like so ridiculous and the way they But
the season one surprised me because I always knew the
concept of it and I knew people loved it. And
Walton Goggins is also in it, who is just an
incredible talent, and he's like their uncle. There was like
a family dynamic I didn't expect in season one that
kind of surprised me. Not that it like blew my

(35:54):
mind or anything, but it's just become like a nice,
like funny show to have on the background that I'm
a big TV guy. People know me. It's like, if
it's a show out, I've probably watched it. And a
lot of people were surprised when they're like, have you
watched because I think the last season came out this
year and people are like, oh, yeah, watching the last
seas right, Jims. I'm like, I've never watched it. They're

(36:14):
like what really, and I'm like, yeah, I just didn't.
But so it's been cool to kind of get into
that it's just utterly ridiculous. So silly. I will say
though there was a scene in season two I think
it's mcaulay Culkin has like two scenes or three scenes
in this one episode, and he gave like an insane
performance in just those few scenes. I'm not even gonna

(36:36):
give context because like, if you haven't watched it, you
can watch it and kind of live in it. That honestly,
in a show that is so ridiculous, I was shocked
by the level of like drama and acting he brought
in this like one to two scenes. I was like, damn, dude,

(36:57):
wait to go, wait everybody real quick.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
He did.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Man, I was like damn wow. And he was acting
opposite Walton Goggins, who is whoa incredible? And I was like,
WHOA wow, dude incredible.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, sometimes some people just got a flex r. I
remind you.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Fallout season two just started, so I watched the first
episode last night as as it reared also star stars
Walton Goggins and Uh. I'm I'm stoked for the season.
I'm glad they went because the first season they just
dropped all at once, which I'm not a big fan
of that. Because the show is so good, I wanted
people to have that conversation going with the show, which

(37:37):
it's obviously it still did well. I think it got
renewed for it's second and third season, maybe more. I'm
not sure I'm liking where they're going. I don't know
if you've seen the first season A fallout, No.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
I didn't. I played the video game, but I didn't
watch the I didn't watch that. I didn't watch Halo
on the video game. I didn't watch the Last of Us.

Speaker 1 (37:58):
It depends what mood you're in for which one to
check out. I have not watched the Halo one, but
I heard the Halo one is pretty awful, especially if
you're a Halo fan. People talk down to that one
pretty bad. That are Halo fans. They think it's kind
of like a you know, not a good representation of
what the story is. The Last of Us I think
is a great adaptation. They take what the game did

(38:20):
and they do it a little different, which some people hated.
With season two. I liked it. I don't think the
Last One was Part two is probably my favorit video
game ever. Yeah, and I'm a massive video game player,
but really good.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It was really good.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, and I don't think it reaches that level, even
though they haven't finished it yet, so I'm excited to
see what they do with the rest of it. Still,
but season one is amazing and Fallout is really really good,
and I have not played those games, but the cool
thing about that one is that it's cannon to the games.
It just takes place farther in the timeline than anything else,

(38:55):
So anything that happened in the games is can't like
it's all connected to cool, which I think is which
I think is really cool. And that one is just
like a insane blend of genre in tone because it's
it's like really gory. Uh, it can be like really
dramatic at times, it can be really funny at times.
It's like a it's like a great amalgamation of what

(39:17):
they do there, Like even this first episode and this
is even a spoiler because I'm sure the game is
just as violent as the show, but so many heads
exploded in this episode. I was like Jesus, I was like,
but the opening scene of season one is also like,
bashit crazy? Talk about an episode they'll draw you into
one episode. I think Fallout season one would would definitely

(39:39):
do it. You're just like, whoa watching?

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, Okay, yeah, the game was cool. So I always
I always down to watch the TV shows where the game.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Is cool, you know.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
And I think it's cool because I think we're reaching
a point now where it's people aren't trying to like
reinvent the wheel with video game stuff if it has
like a good narrative foundation there kind of just expanding
upon it or taking what worked and making it work
in a different medium. And it's like, yeah, I feel
like they should have been doing that the whole time.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I say, the world peaked in the nineties, bro, And
that's my opinion. I don't think people are doing much
cooler things than they were. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
I just feel like it was I almost feel like
it was. I don't almost I feel like it was
cooler in the nineties. And I'll and I'll stand on
that because imagine like where music was in the nineties, right,
everything was just so like new and fresh and like
if you like, if you picture like if you yourself
were in.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
A band in the nineties, you would automatically wear this
like cool badge, right, like yeah, like like what do
you what are you doing? I'm gonna go to band
practice like you're in a band like, oh, that's so cool,
you know what I mean. Like it was just so
like they wanted to be a part of like that.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
And then everything was just so like coming around, like
these cell phones and like new everything, like new, no, no,
and it was just like and then you look at now,
what is everybody dressing like like the nineties?

Speaker 2 (41:01):
What is everybody? What are all the new filters that
are coming out to like.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Make iPhones look like you're filming on a VHS from
the nineties, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Everything is coming pulling from the nineties.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
And you ask people why, and I say, it's because
the nineties was the peak, and now all.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
We can do is try to recreate those nostalgic moments.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
There's nothing new that anybody's doing that's reinventing the wheel
of anything.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
I think there's some great stuff happening, but as far
as new things happening, I totally agree because I had
this conversation on the podcast last week and it's like, really,
think about it, we will never again probably see something
like you know, cassettes to CDs or vhs to DVDs,
Like we lived through those periods and there's people now
who don't even know what that is. Or then like

(41:49):
oh yeah, that old antique thing or that old retro thing,
which is crazy because it's only like twenty years old,
but it's you know, it's like we will never see
anything like that because everyone's trying to go digital or
they're trying to make things that wore physical media just
the old ones make them popular again, you know, like
vinyls a thing, the sets are a thing. Even people
are making new VHS versions of movies. Even major studios

(42:13):
are putting out VHS versions of their movies. It's very rare,
but they did it for the new Alien movie like
released by Fox and Alien Rominos vhs. It's like people
are trying to recapture that like nostalgic magic. You're totally right,
like that happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
I look at we are out here in the country,
like far outside of the city, about an hour outside
of the city, and that you learn things like building fences, right,
like which a city guy would never care to do
in the city. Right, And you build fences and you
realize that the way the old timers would do things
is really like the correct way, you know what I mean.
You look at like the way even like old old

(42:53):
people who were traveling like natives. The way that they
were even eating right was correct, like not too much
like now, you know, you buy a bowl at wherever
and it's like got fifty things in there, you know.
And they were just like that, you're crazy, like the
just meat and this, and like that's what would be
probably better for the human body and h and it's

(43:15):
just like everything it seems to just point towards like
in my opinion, I'm like a lot of times, it's
like the way that they invented doing things in the
in the.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Old time way stand the test of time. It's like
those fences will be here for hundreds and hundreds of years.

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Now they manufacture fences in cities and they're falling apart
within five years of people buying their house and they
got to redo their fence. It's like these old timers
sitting here, like I've my great great great grandfather built
this fence around this five hundred you know acre plot
and it's still standing.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
You know, Yeah, you're not wrong. It's like I just
had to get a new fridge for the first time
in my life. I'm buying a new fridge from my house.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
End a washing machine. It happened like in the same month. Yeah,
and I'm pretty sure because we live in my wife's
mom's old house, and I'm pretty sure the washing machine
was from like the eighties and it lasted until a
few months ago. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Yeah, and the one you probably won't make it that
look that far.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
No, definitely, it's not gonna last twenty years. That's it's
for damn sure or thirty years.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
And it's going to be more expensive than the one
that did.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, that's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
That's the state of the world. And it goes and everything. Man, Like,
you know, you remember when the whole napster thing happened.
You remember being being involved in that and Lars al
Rickles like the guy like this is not right. This
is going to ruin everything. Everybody's like, man, you're rich,
be quiet. You know. I was one of the guys
that was like, no, I think he's right. Man, Like,
I kind of don't like this. And I'm not even

(44:53):
like in the industry yet I'm aspiring.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
To be in the industry, you know.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I look at it like this financial is financial however
you want to there's that's like arguing politics here, right,
somebody's gonna say something and nobody's got somebody over here's
not gonna like it, and so you can't you can't
really do that. But I will say my thing with
the music and that kind of stuff was the level
of when you remember being a kid and if you like,

(45:20):
like say, you had your first job. You were a
sixteen year old kid and you worked at you know, McDonald's,
and you saved up this money to buy the new
whatever album right that you like, the new Sugar Ray
or the new Matchbox twenty at that time period, whatever
or slip knot, whatever it was, and then you bought
it and you were like, man, I worked hard for
this and I love this album.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
The change that came about when people are all of
a sudden granted an infinite catalog in the palm of.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
The phone of their hand, you lose some of that.
I love this right.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
I'm not saying people don't anymore, because that would be
wrong with me to say, because there's plenty of testimonials
for our band, of our music saving people because of
the message, and it's wonderful and I'm not dogging it.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
But what I'm saying is like.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
This like level of Oh my goodness, I love love
love this, you know what I mean, And I'm going
to show everybody like you lose some of that.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
So like, as the artists, we're trying to cater to
a demographic and a people who are flooded with everything
now and it's so fast, you know what I mean.
And it's like, yeah, that was the unfortunate part of
that kind of thing, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
So there's a lot of things that I just love
about the old way, right. It just felt it just
felt better. It just felt better.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
I think my biggest thing about kind of the instant
gratification and the amount of access we all have nowadays.
People are so easy to judge things nowadays. And I'm
not saying don't have your opinion, Please have your opinion.
If you don't like something, I don't care. But so
many people are so like hateful towards things that feel

(47:07):
so unnecessary. And it goes to movies, it goes to TV,
it goes to music, just being like that's trash And
I'm like, half these people don't even know what goes
into this stuff. Like the fact that any of this
stuff is made to me is a miracle. Like I've
written songs. I've put out songs like I know how
that goes. But as far as making a movie TV's,
I know very small amounts of what goes into excellent stuff.

(47:30):
I've never been involved in that kind of thing. So
it's like these things are a miracle. They even happen.
We should to me, I am like. The reason I
started this podcast to talk about this with other people
is that I think it's amazing that we have this
gift to enjoy all this stuff together, and I wanted
to share that love and enjoyment and passion with other people.
And of course there's things I don't like. There's music

(47:51):
I don't like. There's TV shows I don't like. There's
We even talked about give a show three episodes. You know,
It's like there's always gonna be stuff I don't like.
I would rather spend almost all my time talking about
things I do like, yeah, rather than taking something down,
because if I don't like it, then I don't need
to spend more time on it. I didn't like it.
I talked about why I didn't like it. If someone

(48:11):
hears my opinion and they're like, oh, maybe it wouldn't
be for me. Usually the things he says are kind
of in the same alley. But I'll always say give
something a chance, no matter what is yes, because my
opinion is my opinion, not yours.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
And and I love that that you're saying that, because
it's so refreshing. You know, you don't talk to many
people like that, at least I've done.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
I mean, I'm not saying there's not people out there
like that, but when I when I spoke on earlier,
like imagine if we all promoted each other, like how
how good things could be? Right? But we don't.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
But if somebody doesn't like a band, you're in the
know about that, right. It's like it's a that's that's
the part of the world that bothers bothers me. I
just think like a lot of times people miss the
mark on what what could be great and and it
just becomes like watered watered, you know what I mean,
because of people's human nature, and it bothers.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Me in certain things.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Too many people judge things on the outside. I don't
think they need to judge in the outs.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
It's like, just be open minded, be helpful, be a
supporter of what other people are doing. As long as
those intentions of what they're doing are good. I think
it would just be wonderful to see people kind of
doing that. And I'm not saying they aren't, but like
I tell you, I think there's there's more of our

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human nature that points to don't then do you know
our whole esthetic was sex, drugs, and rock and roll
back in the day, and as we all know that
cells and then when we switch to like you know,
helping and positivity and like you know, more deeper issues
that were like positivity and I mean, it's just like
it just seemed like people just they just don't really
gravitate towards that, which is unfortunate.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
More power to you guys for trying to be that
positive light out there, especially in especially in a subculture
that's viewed as this for whatever reason, this like demonic
you know, yeah, like troublesome kind of thing that it's not.
It's I always love when people it flips around and
people are like, oh, this is all about community. It's

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all about finding a place that we all belong to.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
That's the beauty of music is like you should be
able to love all types and nobody should be able
to tell you that you can't or you shouldn't because
it's your life and it's your artistic freedom. You know,
you don't walk into a barbershop and tell that barber
you're gonna cut this one fade for the rest of
your career.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
But he's an artist. He wants to do different things.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
And people not only artists, like like artists who make
soft music, then they make heavy music. And people are like, oh,
I just only like your heavy stuff. It's like that's
a whole other conversation. It's like they're artists, like let
them create, just like you wouldn't tell one person in
a profession that's.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
All you're gonna ever do. Like you you're not an
artist then, and people are artists in their room.

Speaker 3 (50:51):
Right and and just by consuming they're they're they're exploring
their artistic it's giving them value as far as like
maybe maybe it inspires them to pay, maybe it inspires
them to be a better therapist, all all walks of life.
And so if they want to be able to relax
and listen to some country music on a on a whim.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
And then the next day or the next later that later.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
That night, they want to go to a metal show
and let out some aggression, like who's to say you
can who's drawing these lines? Right, It's like love what
you want to love and and support everything you know
and just stop putting so.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Many I hate metal, core, death, chord, grind, cored. It's
just metal.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
It's just you know, it's just heavy metal. We're all
doing the same thing. It's a guitar that that sounds
electric and it's guys who are screaming their heads off.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
It's just metal.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
It's just metal, understand.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
You know.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
You couldn't think of a better note to end on.
So yeah, thank you so much for joining me today.
This was I did not think the conversation will goes away,
but I loved every second, to be honest, cool.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Cool, Well thanks man.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
I'm sorry if I I and on Sometimes I just
I really like talking about stuff that that is just
speaking on like I'm just thinking a little different, that's all,
you know.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
I appreciate the rants is what this space is for
podcasting are meant for rants. That is that is why
I fully believe. So it's it's welcomed here a thousand
percent and uh Barbary Bardy, you have your new album
Blood of the Bulls out now for everyone to enjoy
and listen. You guys have some dates next month around
ship Rocked. What else can fans look forward to from

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the band in twenty twenty six?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
A bunch of cool tours that I the agent's working on.
I just can't say yet. I wish I could. But
hopefully in a perfect world they all.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
We land them all and get to see everybody on
a bunch of cool tours. But but I can't, can't
quite say yet.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I completely understand. I'm sure we'll see the band on
the road next year. You guys are always you guys
always find a way to make it on the road.
Brined you guys have had over the years. It's it's
it's truly sounding to witness and to keep witnessing.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
It's really grantank you, Thank you, We do best.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
I'll make sure and link everything down below so you
can go support the band if you aren't already. The
next month of episodes is going to be a little
different than this back and forth conversation.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
The next two weeks are going to be the most
anticipated TV shows and the most anticipated movies of next
year with some really cool bands. I got to record
with earlier in the month, and then the beginning of
January will be Top ten Movies of twenty twenty five
and Top ten TV Shows twenty twenty five, respectfully. So
about the next month of programming is going to be
a tad bit different, still the same kind of thing,

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just a bunch of lists and I if people know me,
I love me some lists. So excited to go down
that road, talk about what we're looking forward to in
the next year, and then talk about what we love
the most h from this year. And if you want
to support the podcast malk runners dot com, everything is
right there and you fall offollow me our personal account.
It's just attronux my on Instagram and Twitter until next time.

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