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talk about the latest and greatest and entertainment. I'm brow
Sean Mott and my co host this episode is Eric
of Fox Chasuzam. Welcome to the show. Hello everyone, it's
good to have you here. As you're just talking about
before we hit record, this has been a few months
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in the making, so I'm very honored and happy this
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Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yes, me too, man, And now.
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core Nerds. Now, before we get in the pop culture talk,
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we're gonna kick off the show like we do every week,
with the medal Core Nerds Song of the Week. The
song of the week this week is a band from Australia,
former guests of the show as well, The Gloom in
the Corner. This is their latest single, Assassinations run.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
The doors out, gosh wise got you god wi my god,
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my god, my love, my live lodge I said, I said,
what the fuck's my wife? Why LOUCHI nars out God
my dog try gousha for God by love a flutside
push your money then like the fucking six tall oh
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boy steeds or songs who struggle.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
With the dismount you go in your hands.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Makes so not creepy.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
I t you spy s your fucking horse.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Louchis I die o lost child like no lies on
the side way you're saying ragos you way a lass, say.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
Your wife's side.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Child flying outside whitwise why outside Why the sacond way
you're saying ragous way The lass said what a side
by your fi side clock.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
I'm not sucker, I t I.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Fucking both our wars just sh frys say the wars,
the slow times, no horse any times saw.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Your bars fish down like the fucking tar.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Dog Gods God love child, No lie on recycond.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
When you say go away al.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Say your wife a side dog god, no side one
place love your side daughter sidon. When you say like gos,
why all I say I buy say.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Loved rounds I mean on my.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Pel for fun my.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Fucking also to You're Nothing by a Body God m Shock.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Again. That was the gloom in the corner with Assassination Run.
Very very awesome band. They're on Sharp Tone Records. They
have just had their first US tour this past year.
I'm sure they're gonna come back again very very soon.
Very awesome band. So if you haven't you like what
you heard, they got a ton more to offer for you,
so make sure you go check out the rest of
their catalog. Speaking of live music, Eric, I have a
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foxyg XAM story. I saw foxg XAM and I think
it's two thousand and six. I scoured the internet trying
to find a flyer or something, and I couldn't find anything.
But my friend was playing in this band. You guys played, Sarahcuse,
New York. You played this place called Funkin' Waffles, which
is still a place, but where you guys played was
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their old location, both in downtown Syracuse. But I remember
seeing you guys, and I have never heard of you
guys before, and watching you guys play was so wild.
I remember the keyboard player like bent over in front
of you. You played him like a piano and there
was not that many.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Was it was I doing the French Fresh Fresh Prince
of bel Air song on him on this bag.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
That I don't I don't remember what it was. I
just remember that that image is in my head in
that and and there wasn't that many people there, and
I just remember being like, this band is going the
hardest I've seen any band go ever. And I always
will respect and love when bands give it they're all
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no matter who's there, there's ten people there, there's a
thousand people there, there's ten thousand people there. I love
and respect that so much. And then I remember when
Oh Lord came out years later and it just like exploded,
and I was like, I saw that band in this
little like pretty much cafe and seeing him do this
is it was so cool to me. And I've been
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lucky to see that happen with a few bands like that.
But and I remember as Beacemakers coming out with this
new season, and I posted the intro thing on my
Facebook and stuff, and people brought up you eating cigarettes
also while playing live, So I kind of wanted to
take you back and like, what was your mindset of
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performing in such an insane way back in the day,
and like, what was the inspiration behind that?
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I guess yeah, yeah, well I think it all ties
together actually on all the all the things that you
mentioned there were like if you if so. I as
important as the fans are to me, Foxy fans make
us our band, you know, they would be nothing without them.
We owe them everything. But when I'm on stage, I
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don't necessarily see them, you know, I don't see anyone
I see. It's to me, it's this like opportunity that
because I'm normally like a pretty reserved guy, you know,
and I think like when I get on stage, it's
like it feels like there's something that has always been
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inside me, and it's the reason why I've decided to
do music, you know. And it wasn't a decision, it
was just there. I didn't even have to decide. I've
just always wanted to do it, and so I've just
done it. And I think like that feeling is what
I can let loose on stage and it doesn't matter
who's there. It doesn't matter there's fifty thousand people or
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there's five people it you know, in it. But it's
cool that that's where it's appropriate for me, and that's
where I feel like I can express that and it's
a great feeling. You know, it's an amazing, fun feeling,
but it's it's free and and that that's like just
very powerful and healthy for me, you know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Think it is for a lot of people on stage
and off, but what you just describe perfectly encapsulated how
I feel when i've ever I've performed too, because it
is because so many people too, where it's like, you know,
I'm usually kind of a down to earth nice guy,
and then they see me on stage and they're like,
that's not the same person it is. It's just it's
just it's just a different side, you know what I mean.
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But it is exactly it is like performing live and
feeling that energy and that buzz is it's impossible to replicate.
It's like only that can give you that feeling. So
I'm glad you explained it that way and the.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Connection that gives, Like I think there's still a connection.
I mentioned that I kind of don't see the audience,
but I want to make sure I say that I
still feel connected with them, and I feel like it's
about what everyone comes to shows for and feels that,
you know, sense of just forgetting themselves, forgetting anything that
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any worries or problems that they might have or anything.
Really it's just being in the moment, you know, and
that kind of gets everybody there. And I don't know,
I love it spiritual.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Yeah, music is a I owe. I think everything in
my life to music. Yeah, to be perfectly honest, and
it is such a beautiful thing. And I know it's
like counterculture stuff. It's like it's for anyone, but it's
not for everyone. That's like the blanket term that makes
perfect sense with all this stuff, But I genuinely feel
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bad for people who haven't experienced like the energy and
the commodity and the pure magic that is formed with
the connection of of live music. It's live music of
this nature, I guess, you know, it's it can be different,
Like I've seen big pop acts play like arenas too,
and it's cool, but there's a different vibe, you know,
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in certain different subgenres of the music. So thank you
for sharing that. That was That was absolutely thank you man. Yeah,
Like likewise, I do want to get into obviously, like
it's been a cool couple of years for you and
and the band specifically in like the pop culture realm.
But I want to know, take it back to what
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got you into pop culture, Like what got you into
TV and movies that made you fall in love with it?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
The thing that got me into pop culture in general
is that it's this persona that you can you can
do from a place of theater, but everything's the you know.
So it's almost like this intertwined reality of life is real,
but you can also put on a mask of a
persona and it's it's fun, you know. So pop culture
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has always been that to me. It's been this, it's
a persona and and like it's a good persona. It's fun,
you know. But it also is something that I think
all of us, deep down inside are really kind of
all the same thing. I don't know, I don't want
to get too cheesy, but you know, it's like pop
culture is what kind of makes everybody, I don't know inspired.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I guess, Yeah, do you remember like the first things
that attracted you to that feeling, like maybe when you're
younger or in your yeah, formative yours.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
That's an interesting question. I know it's I might sound
biased because you know, but my dad with Superman, my
dad would he would like fly me around the room,
you know, like and and do that the song that
the theme song to Superman, and like I think that
like and he would always talk about like musicians, and
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he would he would love like he would talk about
just he loved talking about musicians and actors and actresses
and just all of that stuff. So I think and
what you know that led me to my first band
was that I loved was Green Day. Like that that
kind of got me when I got Doukie the album
Dukie that was one of my first records, and that
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kind of wow, yeah, that was like a big record
for me.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
That makes sense. I think I was a big record
for like anyone in there. You know. Well, it's crazy
because it's like Green Day is such a like a
generationally spanning band. Yeah, like really, you know, like I'm
thirty five and I remember getting Dukie when I was
a kid, you know, like and like I'm sure a
lot of our parents like grew up listening to Green Day,
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and now there's like almost like a younger generation finding
Green Day too. It's it's like it's just one of
those bands. They came out almost like at the at
the right time. I guess, yes, And they're still relevant now,
still playing now, and it's that's always cool to see
when bands that I've been doing it for like our
whole lives are still out there doing the thing.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
For sure.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
It's great.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
They're very inspiring still to this day, you know, and
I think, yeah, they were they like I put their
posters on my wall and I wanted to dye my
hair blue.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
And you know, that's awesome. I love that you spoke
a superman obviously, that's a very poignant thing and kind
of a full circle moment probably, but it is, yeah
for me for sure. How did how did the meeting
between you and Jane's Gun like happen? How how did
that come about?
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Well, the first time I caught wind of you know,
James Gun and Fox Ea Shazam on anything was when
the first season one of Peacemaker he used Church of
Rock and Roll in like a scene and it was
an awesome scene. But yeah, and like I didn't know
at the time. I didn't, and I just got a
million texts like when that happened, Like did you see
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he was using your song in the Peacemaker? And so
I checked out the show and like just immediately fell
in love with it, and I just like, I think
I decided. I was like, I'm gonna just shoot him
a thank you message, you know. So I just hit
him up on Socials and I think it was Socials
at the time, and just like said, hey, you know,
thank you and you love the show. And and it
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like a year went by and no word. I didn't
get any response, and I thought, oh, well, maybe just
yeah whatever, and then out of nowhere he hits me
up and he's like, hey, I'm so sorry. I didn't
you know, we don't follow each other, so I didn't
see the message, didn't come directly to me. It was
kind of buried and stuff. So but he was like,
I just saw this, and I'm like, I'm a huge fan.
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And I was like flabbergasted that, you know, he said that,
and he was like he speaks. He he gives us
so much praise and it's it's I feel so grateful
for it, you know. And and ever since then we've
just been you know, we started kind of writing each
other back and forth emails and sharing what we're sharing,
the ideas and art and music and you know, sending
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each other songs we love and because he's so knowledgeable
about music. I mean he loves music, you know, And yeah,
he sent me so many cool songs and artists I've
never heard of and just kind of been inspiring each other,
you know, and that just kind of came friends.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, that's so cool. That makes sense though, because I
was like, man, he really didn't message you back. Oh yeah,
it makes sense a guy I got buried in their
requests and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, So did you not know it was going to
be on the show because of like the label owned
the rights of the song and they like that all
of that stuff was done outside of you, like, you know,
like you was the band knowing there.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Might have been an email that Yeah, I guess I
that must be No, I mean we would get the email.
It's just that like it might have just been a
quick thing that I didn't realize, you know, what was
happening until it happened.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, it could have been thinking like what's peace? What
is peacemaker? You're like whatever?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, because it was it would have been way before
the show existed. So yes, yeah, you know, I was
kind of like, I'm not sure, but when it came
and it was like being able to see it and yeah,
I mean knowing James work, you know, knowing what he does,
and it was bound to be amazing.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
So yeah, that's that's super cool. So I'm guessing this
kind of camaraderie that happened after he found out that
such him thank you for putting on the show. I'm
guessing that's what led to the Superman cameo and everything
like that.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, James, they filmed some of those scenes in Cleveland,
and he was, you know, I'm an Ohio native, so
he was like, hey, we'll be in your area and
if it's easy for you, come by and let's have
some fun. So I just drove up to Cleveland and yeah,
and it was just being on set, like seeing all
that stuff go down in real time, and I mean
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seeing Superman with my like I'm really looking at Superman
like that's really him, and and it's it's like just
the gravity of that feeling and like the you know,
an American icon just like they right there in front
of me, and yeah, it was. It was beautiful. And
seeing how James works, you know, and the crew, the
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crew and the actors everybody, and and it just like
so such a good flow and a good energy, like
in order to make that stuff good, you there has
to be that good energy like that people are really
I don't know, it's just really inspiring to see things
getting artistic, creative things getting done on that level. And
it's the integrity is still there and the passion and
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it's all there, and it's to really see it and
to know that it exists is just so reassuring, and
that that's the kind of feeling I feel like that
comes through screen that people pick up on and they
don't necessarily put can't put their finger on it, but
it's just yeah, I like this, this is good.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Yeah. I watched the digital version of Superman when it
came out. I had like I'm making up documentary attached
with it, which was super cool because I guess I
haven't bought a ton of digital movies and stuff like that.
But it has like a features screen, almost like a DVD.
So that like brought me back to of like popping
in a DVD and there being like a DVD screen,
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because that's what kind of does you like skip to
the screen and then there's like documentary behind the scene
like all that stuff. So that was really cool to see.
But even seeing that from obviously like a very outside
perspective of seeing how stuff is made, but seeing the apps.
And I've like studied James Gunn's work and like watched
a ton of interviews and stuff, and I've always told,
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like could tell that he very attention to detail, very
making sure everything's on the page before they go to
shoot and everything like that. He's been very vocal about
that kind of stuff. But seeing some of the some
of the like the amount of work that went into
some of the stuff, especially in Superman, I was like, wow,
Like I can't even fathom planning this, you know, like
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just planning it, not on top of writing a really
good script and then making that really good script into
a really good movie. Just the planning aspect is so
insane to even fathom, let alone execute at such a way.
So I can only imagine being there and seeing it
happen like live in the real time must be so surreal.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
Man, it is in realizing that it is an art
form in itself, you know. I think that's what I
was saying kind of trying to say too, is that
that flow of organization and the time it takes for
all those people, all those pieces, all those things to
come together in a way that gets something to work.
Is just yeah, very hard to do unless it's like
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it's really in you and you're the real deal and
you love it and you have to do it. And
that's what is really inspiring about what James does.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Yeah, that dude's like a machine. Like he's the amount
of stuff he's written and then has been made like already,
you know, in this past year, and then what's already coming,
like the fact that he already has the script for
the follow up movie and it's like that's going to
go into production soon. It's just like absolutely insane. Like
the dude is just like a workhorse. And in between
all that, he's been doing press for everything too, and
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it's just like I was like, I don't know how
to dude sleeps. I don't think he does. He probably
doesn't sleep at all. He's just like constantly going and
going and going. I know. Also two going to San
Diego Comic Con. He was promoting peace Maker obviously, which
is which is now airing. You guys got to play
Live at peace Con? Was that your first time being
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at STCC?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It was yeah, And it was like, oh man, it
was such a cool experience, like walking around and just
seeing it felt like I can't even I don't know,
I've never experienced anything like it, but it was. It
was just really exciting and all the you know, all
the new shows and things that are there, and and
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then just being a part of that and being a
part of something so cool at the same time. It's
like we got on that stage that we got to
go in early and it was like closed down, and
they had a real eagle upstairs, like on the roof
that you could go and take pictures with, and it
was like the eagle is a literal like legend eagle
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because it's taking pictures with the president and stuff. It's
like the the Eagle. And then you go downstairs and
there's like a Mortal Kombat things set up where the
Peacemaker characters on it and you can like fight ye
with the with the new Peacemaker skin on Mortal Kombat,
and that was awesome because we like to beat the
crap out of each other. And then like, yeah, there's
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there's all these amazing, you know, artists on the bill,
and there's really cool like Peacemaker themed Everything's like there's
hardcore punching bags in the bar that people can just
let loose on. It was so fun man, And yeah,
the James was there, all the you know people were there.
It was it was really fun.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
I've only been to one SECC, but the energy like
being there is so wild. So I can only imagine
like like a small almost like club show that's themed
around Peacemaker. I can only imagine the energy in that
building was absolutely electric.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
I saw the state the stage up looked amazing.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, there was a big helmet. There's a big Peacemaker
helmet on stage. And yeah, Lulu Saffron was there, who
I did the crab joy song with, and she came
up on the stage and we did it. We did
the duet cameo for crab Joys live. Is the first
time we've ever played that live. So that was fun.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
That's so cool. Yeah. What's it like to be in
to be in like the biggest fictional band in DC
right now? There they've been in like every been in
every DC property so far.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. I mean it's I love I
love like blurring the lines of what like I like
having one foot on the platform and the other foot
on the train of reality and DC universe and just
being this band that exists in these things and just
getting like, I don't know, it feels so cool. It's
like blurring the lines of what a band can be
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and what it can do in this day and age
is so fun to play with. Like there's it's like
a dimension that is unlocking. Yes, and it's like is
this Foxy Hizam?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Is this?
Speaker 2 (24:37):
What is crab Joys? Are they in the is? Are
they in the universe?
Speaker 4 (24:41):
It?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
What? Like I love it? That is a very cool
way to put it, because it's even like in Creature
Commandos there was a ton of Go Go Bardello music. Yeah,
and they were in it the show too, like they
were and stuff like that. It's like it's so cool,
like exactly what you said. James has such a way
with the that it's so incredible, and his breadth of
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knowledge just in that surpasses so many different genres of
what he likes and what he knows and what he
can fit into movies and TV is absolutely insane. Like
obviously it's like kind of been a James Gunnism at
this point of needle drops and everything like that. It's
like very apparent and everything he does. Sam Superman was
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you know, obviously very score heavy, which he's talked about,
but he has such a knack and talent for finding
music and bringing so many new ears to so many
cool bands. And so I heard that you guys were
going to be the theme song months ago from your
great pr person And when I heard that, I was like,
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that rules that is that's awesome. I am so stuff
to see how this is implemented. And you guys were like,
like you said, you were already in season one. You've
already been a part of the peace Maker universe as
Fox uses say. So was that for you guys being
the theme song of season two?
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Was?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
Was that something that James just brought up too straight up?
Speaker 2 (26:08):
I'm trying to remember the exact moment I heard about that,
but he he invited me down to see that being filmed.
So I drove down to Atlanta and we went to
the studio and watched that in real time.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
To see the.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Gathering of talent that is on that stage. You know,
dancing to my song is like I can't. I mean,
it's like it's just the best gift and the fact
that like it's there's something about the Peacemaker that I
really it's probably just there's something about it just feels
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rock and roll, you know, like there's it's like the
rock and roll superhero and or not superhero, but maybe
he's a super It's just like it's good. I love that.
I love that there's like this just energy of like
awesomeness and it's violent, it's bloody, it's funny, it's beautiful,
it's sad, it's it's it's happy. It's like it's all
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of it, you know, And I love that. And it
just feels like the right show for us, you know,
and I'm happy to be a part of it. And
it was just it was so inspiring. It started our
relationship and then like to get to take see it
kind of just go to the next level of what
it was just an honor, you know for him to
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do that, and it's such an awesome guy.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Yeah, I like I said, I heard, I was like,
I was so looking forward to it. Season one, the
intro of Wigwam Do you want to Taste It? Yeah,
that intro has become like legendary iconic, like lightning in
a bottle. So with changing season two to a different intro,
which I can see some people being like, why would
you change this iconic intro? But I definitely think it
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was done for a thematic and narrative version because Season
two is a very vastly different tone. The characters are
in very different places in their lives, and I think
not only the dance but the song fit the vibe
of this so much more so knowing that, like the
comparison would come immediately because of course it's going to
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It's it's the Internet, it's people love to compare things.
Was there like an added amount of like intimidation or
pressure to you guys at all, or were you just like,
I'm stoked to be here. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
It was it was the feeling that it doesn't matter
because like things that are different are good, you know.
And I think like, ultimately, you wouldn't want to see
the same thing again. You've already seen that the intro,
you know, It's like, it's great, it's iconic, it's legendary.
I love it. It'll never change. It's it's always there,
it's always great, it's always beautiful. Let's let's see the
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next beautiful, great thing. And I think James pays attention
to that and he's not doing it for no reason.
He's not just like let's throw something together. This is all,
you know, from the same place that he created that
first intro. And it's and it's it's beautiful and it's different,
you know, And and I think that you never want
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to be stagnant or just do the same thing. You
want to change and make make it, you know, better,
And and I think it it not better, but like
different and and good and in the same way that
other things are good.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
It's like you just you just keep doing it. It's
like it's like when we make new records. It's it's
not better or worse than our other records. It's different,
and like it takes you know, I feel like as
an artist, you know that that takes time to kind
of understand and to appreciate and and it took me time.
And I think like as you go, you kind of
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start to work with yourself about just like being creative
and in the way that things come out and embracing
and refining. And it's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Totally agreed, And and that's why I think why this
song is so fitting and the new intro is so
fitting for the second season. Is that he didn't try
to replicate what was already successful. He did what a
follow up should do, and it should further along things
for these characters. But then changing this intro to again
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give us something different, give us something that fits the
vibe of this better. And that's why when people have
tried to compare, I've been like, you can think one's
better or one's not. But I was like, I feel
like this is a great successor to the first intro, especially,
I think, and I've seen the internets change because some
people were like, it's not the first season intro, I
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don't care, and then more people have been like, actually,
this is really growing on me because I think as
the story goes along, it's the same thing with the
intro for season one, Like James Plus's out, it's nothing is,
nothing is crafted for and nothing like everything is crafted
with intention. And there was a reason he wanted this song,
and there was a reason why the intro needed change
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in order to fit this new narrative. And I think
my favorite part of the new intro is that the
song starts during like the end of the scene as
it goes into the intro dance, Like that's my favorite
part when he did in the first one, I was like, oh,
I love that, Like coming from a place of music myself,
like those are the things I liked, Like I noticed
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and I like to see stuff like that. I was
just like, yes, I love it. And as it's happened
in everything because it makes sense, like the intro dance
starts on a certain beat of the song, so of
course you have to do that every episode. But I
love that, and I love that the end of the
song lingers as the title credits go on for the episode.
It's just stuff like that where I'm like, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:43):
Yeah, it's very it's very awesome how he does how
he cuts those things together, and yeah, I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
It's it's so so cool. So since Oh Lord has
been featured now for weeks now, as has this new song,
have you noticed any changes, like fan wise like changes
for you as the band since peace Maker Season two start.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
There's, you know, a platform that James has given us
that we we've always nothing necessarily has changed with our work,
with our with our what we are doing because we
we've we've been focusing on releasing new music and making
records and we've been doing that and and James saw that,
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you know, and he kind of came to be like,
oh lord, we wrote, we wrote a long time ago.
So that's that's assurance that these things are timeless, you know,
and and that if they just it's all happening in
this way that feels like organic and like built from
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not skipping steps, just going little, you know, working from
our the ground up and having a solid foundation and
like being a band first and foremost, that's kind of
what we've what we do, you know, and and that's
what we love and that's our passion. And James does
his thing, and that's his passion. And when that when
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it was able to link up just based on like
sharing a similar love for music, and it all just
feels like meant to be, you know, and like like
in a way that's just thank you and the gratitude
I feel for that, and and but it still doesn't
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change what I do, you know. I will always do
what we're what we're doing. And the fact that James
is giving us the support and platform to get more ears,
new ears and eyes on us is just I I'm
just so grateful for that, you know. And it really
feels like there's these things, these little you know, like
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angels that pop up and just make me feel like
really grateful, you know, and and their friendships go it
goes the same way. I I, you know, feel like
just that I really feel grateful for the for the friendship.
That's kind of the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
That's beautiful, that's that's really good to hear. And I'm
glad the mission has stayed the same regardless of the
attention this is probably bringing you guys. Yeah, I had
the pleasure of speaking with the vocalist of Wigwam two
when when that happened, because I think a similar thing
happened too, Like they got an email and they're like,
oh cool, We're going to be the intro song for
this Peaks Maker show. That sure, whatever, And at the
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point when it came out, they like just got fired
by their agent. Like everything was going kind of like
downhill for them as a band, and then and then
this intro came out, even though they I think they
had an idea of what this intro could possibly do,
because they're like, hey, are song's gonna be on this
this HBO show, James Gun's making it blah blah blah,
and they're like no, no, no, whatever, and then you know,
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the song came out and everyone's like, who's this band?
I need I need to So it kind of like
changed their lives, you know, at a point where it
was like lowest for them. But like that's like when
I heard you guys are gonna be the INTR music,
I'm like, I'm so stoked so many people are gonna
hear the song because this song is incredible. Like I'm
so stoked that millions upon millions of people are going
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to hear the song because I remember, like I said,
like hearing that song for the first time and seeing
it it was I probably saw it in like Fuse
or something like I can't even remember like where I
first watched it, but I was like I saw that
band play in front of not that many people in
the smallest place, like imaginable, and now they're doing this.
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I was like, this rules Like there's kind of not
a better feeling than seeing stuff like that. So it's
so cool that you guys are at a place now
where you're like the mission is still the same regardless
of what comes with everything that's happening with you guys.
That's that's super were cool and I think like that that.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Little show in Syracuse, you know, is a part of
why James Gunn came to us. You know, I think
those things, That's what I mean by just kind of
staying in that moment and in the mode of but
you're it all just happened. It just happens, and it's beautiful,
you know, and you don't always know that. You don't
always feel that, Like I'm not saying I sometimes I'm
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like what you know, It's it's not always like, oh yeah,
this is all just month to be you know, like
sometimes what's happening.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
But that's like the highs the lows make the highs
that much worth it, you know, Yeah, exactly, So that's cool.
You got to see the dance number being filmed. Do
you remember the first Did you get to see like
a final cut of it, like cut together before the
show air? Then?
Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yes, a rough cut. Yeah, But also like for me,
the feeling of like seeing that in my eyes, Like
sometimes when I'm on tour, will be drying in this
beautiful landscape and the sun's going down and it's we're
in the desert or something, and it's just like the
whole sky's pink and purple and my instinct for a
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second is to grab my phone, but I'm like, just
let it be and let me remember this and let
me just take this picture in my head and let
me just feel it. And that's what I did in
that Peacemaker scene when they were filming. I just was like,
That's the thing I've tried to remind myself is like,
just look at this, like and and and then I
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got to like go up and hop up on stage
and like take a picture with everybody. And I remember
that day. I was like, oh, I forgot to put
on deodorant.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
As you're standing next to like John Cena, and he.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
So amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:43):
And that's a great reminder to there's plenty of times
where you can just stay in the moment, you know.
I try to remind myself of that sometimes too, because
obviously we're we're in an age where you know, like
the phone's always in your hand and you're kind of
glued to other realities in the screen there looking at
and stuff like that. So it's nice to be able
to just sit in the moment, yeah, live it, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
I had, Plus I had the reassurance that this was
being captured the right way.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
You're going to see a very high quality cut of
a section of the show. I like, I like to
focus on is now watching? So is there been anything
that you've been watching currently, Whether there's some movies, TV shows,
it can be new, old, whatever it is, But has
there been anything you've been watching lately that you've been
really enjoying or really not enjoying?
Speaker 2 (38:33):
Going aside from Peacemaker, I love Alien Earth. Yes, yeah,
I've been.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
I've been.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Really I'm into that. I mean, Aliens is one of
I would say it's probably like the first movie that
one of It's it's like my top three movies favorite
movies Aliens. James Cameron, like, I have this nostalgic thing.
I like I would ask for the Alien action figures
for Christmas, and like my mom would play this Barber
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streisand song. So now every time I hear this by
barbar streisand Christmas song, I think of Aliens. And it's
the weirdest combination, but I just have this like deep
nostalgia for Aliens. And so when I saw that show,
and in the Aliens movies that have come recently, you know,
they they've they've touched on it closely, but it's still
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there's something I wanted and this Alien Earth show is
just giving it to me. It's like, it's something about
the atmosphere. You know, I can't even say what it's
this other than the story being awesome too, but the atmosphere,
like the rain and the things that you know Ridley
Scott got in the first one, that just this feeling
and the trucker space trucker and the futuristic retro. You know,
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I don't know, it's all just I love it. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I think it's because we finally have seen like what
Earth is like, because this takes place like two years
before the first Alien movie takes place, yeah, the Alien timeline,
so it's right in that area of like the first one.
So it's and we like, again we get to see
what Earth looks like, and see what Earth is like,
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and now knowing that Earth is totally governed by five
different mega corporations, it's almost like a view into the
darkest timeline, or maybe the potential timeline of where our
future is headed. And I think there's something about it
that feels so real. And while I love alien and aliens,
like this show puts at the forefront the corporations are
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the bad guys, not the xenomorphf not this weird eye
alien thing, not whatever. It's the corporations, and we are
leaning into that tenfold. Did you get to watch the
finale then or do you not see something?
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Not yet? No, I'm like I'm almost there, but I'm
like a couple of episodes behind because I got to
rotate between that and Peacemaker. I'm catching up on that
and like the I think I'm at the part where
they they just what was the last thing I saw? Well,
I don't want to give anything away to your should
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I should?
Speaker 3 (41:09):
I not?
Speaker 2 (41:09):
Should I not say anything? I don't want to.
Speaker 1 (41:13):
Yeah, did you see the flashback episode yet? No?
Speaker 2 (41:16):
I just the guy. The guy just went into the
tank and got his face eaten by the the fly
like things that.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
Okay, now I'm not remembering if that was before or
after the flashback episode?
Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, the flashback yet?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
I think you're at least halfway through. Okay, cool, but yeah,
it's it's it's a I I watched a lot of
seriously year and it's it's among one of my favorites.
Speaker 4 (41:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:45):
I love the feeling of like in in the uh
the Androids like the kids are in there, so like
the whole time you have this feeling of like you
don't want the kids to get hurt, but it's not.
You also have the safety of knowing that they're androids,
so it makes things a little less like gruesome. But
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at the same time you have this like, oh, they're
just kids, like don't want to hurt them, you know,
and like they act like that and that you can
tell like I love the I'm not sure the actor's name,
but like some of the Lost Boys and all the characters,
like the characters are just amazing. The actors and actresses,
all that stuff is perfect casting, really good, good job they're.
Speaker 1 (42:27):
Doing doing a great job of like encapsulating being mentally
a child trapped in these kind of like invincible aesthetic bodies.
You know. That's such a I remember when I got
to see like the first six episodes early to screen
it and to interview some of the casts, and I
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remember like being like, oh that is so icky. Wow,
that's like and like the fact they go to explain like, oh, yeah,
we have to use children because they can't figure it
out with grown adults that they can't the brain doesn't work,
like it's too hard, and and how they're using these
terminally ill kids so they can easily just be like, yeah,
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they died, they were terminally ill. They died, and you
know now they're just their consciousns lives on in this
like weird digital robotic way. Like that's especially knowing like
how Alien is so focused on like immortality and you're
almost like this is the answer, like they found the
answer to immortality. But as you've seen as the show
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goes a longer, like it's not that easy. It's a
little more complicated than how simple it may seem like
on paper. But yeah, it's it's been a it's been
a very very cool show that I think has come
out and I know it's I know it's been killing
it in like the streaming charts and stuff like that.
So I'm I'm hoping there's a season too, because I
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know the creator has talked about he has multiple season
plans for multiple seasons, so I really.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Hope the creator. Do you know who did that?
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Yeah, no, he did. He did the Fargo series, which
is a continuation of the Fargo movie.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yes, those are some of my favorite shows too.
Speaker 1 (44:10):
So he's like the king of like taking ip and
like adding to it and like yeahing his own. He
also did the show called Legion and it's technically an
X Men show, but it's so weird and trippy because
Legion is the son of Charles Xavier but he's schizophrenic
and kind of each of his like like identities have
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different powers. Oh okay, and how he like switches into that.
Like it's it's an interesting, it's an and it's not
connected to anything. It's totally in its own thing. It's
three seasons you can watch on Hulu. It's it's just
it's incredible. It's like one of the coolest like quote
unquote superhero shows I've ever seen, because it doesn't really
feel like that, but there's times where you're like, oh, yeah,
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he's a mutant and like one of the most powerf
means of all time. I got it. It's a really
cool he's a special creator and he seems to be
like FX is like go to guy because apparently they
came to him and were like, hey, would you want
to do an alien show? And he was like, yeah,
let me see if if I can think of something,
and this is what he came up with.
Speaker 2 (45:15):
So that's great. Fargo is like, I mean, that's kind
of it's funny that I had no idea those two
shows were connected, but that that's would be another one
that I would would say that is probably one of
my favorite things. And there hasn't been the John Hannett
but John ham episode season was the last one.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Right, Yes, I don't know if that's anyway, to be honest,
I don't know if that was the last one or
if it's going to keep going because I know that
one's like each season is like a different year and
they're not really connected other than being in the same
area or whatever. I got to Fargo. I need to, Yeah,
but you'd like it. It's like the one I haven't
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watched of his because he's such an incredible like because
he's a writer, director, combo, very akin to James James Gunn. Yeah,
he didn't direct all the episodes of Alien Earths, but
he directed a bunch of but he wrote all of
that and he's the series creator and everything like that.
Speaker 2 (46:13):
But yeah, there is something that I've been wanting to
watch lately that I feel like I'm destined to see
and I need to see it. Have you ever seen
a movie called Phantom of Paradise.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Phantom of Paradise.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
I don't think so you might recognize, like the face,
it's like this. It's kind of like I feel like
from Rocky Horror era.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
This is in nineteen seventy four horror musical.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Yeah, I want to see this, Like I feel like
I'm I really there's something about that that's just been
calling to me.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
So if that counts as something, it sounds it sounds
like up your rally, Yeah, Brian do directed. Oh cool, Wow,
that's kind of wild. Yeah, never heard of this at all.
Oh yeah, it's pretty wild though. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
Yeah, it's kind of an underground thing. I mean, I think,
but I I don't know. There's like I want to
there's something that's been inspiring me lately about that, like shows,
movies like that in Rocky Horror, like like musicals, and
I just kind of want to I want to be
inspired by things like that.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
Right now, what you're saying is you want to start
and help create. Yeah, that's what you're saying. Yes exactly,
I would pay to see that. That would be because
I feel like that's like, you know, that was like
a thing in like the seventies and eighties like it happened.
Not frequently, but it happened for sure. Yeah, I feel
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like that's not really a thing I think a really
cool thing.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
Yeah for sure. Yeah, it's definitely something I really I
want to Yeah, I want.
Speaker 1 (47:52):
To do man. Yeah, I mean do you do know
do you know a producer and studio?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
Well that's very cool. Eric, Thank you so much for
staying down and talking to me.
Speaker 2 (48:03):
This was shu. It's been a pleasure, my friend. We
gotta do it more often.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
Oh, I would love to you name it lady. I am.
I am so down before we get out of here.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:15):
Please let the people know where they can find you,
what Foxy XAM has going on, and what they can
inspect from you guys in the future.
Speaker 2 (48:21):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (48:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (48:22):
My Instagram is Eric in American Eric Underscore in Underscore
American and my band is Foxy Shazam. You can find
us on all the social platforms. We'll be releasing our
new album, A Box of Magic on October sixth, twenty
twenty five, so about a week away, so please check
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out that new music. It's something I'm really proud of.
We went to La to do it in the same
studio that they did Thriller and they did pet Sounds.
The Beach Boys did the Pet Sounds there and it's
a really awesome record, very positive energy. I feel like
something we need right now. And yeah, and thank you
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for listening and all the new people who heard of us,
you know, recently, thank you, and we're going to keep
on keeping a perfect.
Speaker 1 (49:14):
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