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Medicore Nerds, the podcast that features members of your favorite
bands as we explore their love of pop culture, I'm
y al Sean Mott and this week I'm joined by
Mike of c KY. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
What's up, Tue? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Very stoked to have you here, very stoked to get
into what you like to consume.
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Coffee and movies.
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before we get into the pop culture talk, we're gonna
kick off the show like we do every week, with
the Middle Core Nerds Song of the Week. The song
of the week this week is from Enders. This is
dark Weather.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I'm thinking name the sunrise. You tell me I have
grown you don't know. You don't know, but I still
want to believe it. I won't to see me there.
(02:41):
I don't know, I don't know. The tracks don't leave
me there, So please don't see.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That, uh.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Love, It's like cold talk weather wastetand to gather baby,
we could.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Find someone inside.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Or it's like cold dark weather, it wasteand to gather baby,
we could find some more day side or.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
On this side of.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Lost it in its widelight, in that yellow glow because
you don't know, you don't know, the temperatures fall them
and you that bitter air to wake up.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I need you to.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Don't see.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That. It's like so weather it wetand together baby, we
can buy someone bad.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's like.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So whether it wand together baby week some side up.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Side weather. If we together, maybe we can find some
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warm th inside of.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Again. That was Ace Enders with dark Weather. This is
off his new soul album Poster Syndrome that's out now
via Pure Noise Records. If your name is familiar to you,
he's the singer of the band They're November a most
you know, Emo kids, Elder Emo, whatever you want to
call it these days, you know they're late November so
his If you like their November, you're probably like his
solo stuff. So go check it out if you like
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what you heard with that song. And for more music recitations,
you can check out the middle corner. It's pullus five
Fi playlist. I update it daily. You can find it
in the link in the show notes below. Now, I
want to kind of connect the Ky to the pop
culture of it all, because obviously Ky has been a
massive staple in various different realms of pop culture. And
(06:32):
I was listening to you on the Riff Tacos podcast
and how you're talking about how it's so cool that
you like grew up like idolizing Cky and now you're
in Cky. So I'm excited to hear your perspective on
this and now, whether it's the Tony Hawk pro skater
A soundtrack, whether it was the Cky DVDs which eventually
(06:53):
obviously turned into Jackass and turned into be Alabam. What
is your favorite Ky pop culture moment.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, it's funny that you said Ky DVDs because when
I found the band, I don't even think DVDs were
a thing yet. Because the first time I ever like
a piece of my first Cky anything was Cky two
K on a VHS tape Ky two K on ogv
VHS and that's what started it for me. And that
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was before Jackass or before any of the Tony Hawk stuff.
But as a KY fan, like when they were growing still,
I think it was really cool to see them go
from like the Cky two K stuff onto Jackass, onto
like a syndicated television show. And as a fan, it
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was like my favorite band was getting this crazy opportunity
and like a breakthrough, you know, breakout moment, And for me,
that was like really cool to watch that. And then again,
I guess it kind of happened again when Fivla Bam
came out too, Like both of those moments were like,
holy shit, my favorite band is like getting of exposures
and that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's cool because I feel like that that was a
thing very much in like the two thousands and the nineties,
and I think it kind of went away for a
while for these kind of like alt bands to be
featured in these like massive pop culture things, and I
think it's now turning around where it's that stuff is
happening again. I think it's really cool to see, but
I think I kind of like set a weird precedent
(08:23):
with that kind of stuff because of what they were
doing at the time was kind of crazy and it's
so funny because there's the it's really crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember owning the c One Duties when I was
a kid, and that kind of like was pretty formative
for me because obviously I went on to love Jackass
and people at Bamon and everything like that. But I
remember even having the realization that like oh Bam, Margierra,
oh his brothers and CEO, Oh, that's crazy, and like
you know, putting those pieces together when you're a kid
is so cool, and it's it's so wild that they've
(08:54):
been like engrossed with this stuff from not not from
the jump, but for a very.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Long time truly from the jump, I mean like yeah,
it was all super synonymous for the for the for
the path. It was like, you know, the skateboarding culture,
the music culture, kind of how they sewed themselves together,
like you can't have one without the others. So yeah,
it was very synonymous.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I think that was I tried skateboarding when I
was a teenager. I was not good at it at all,
and then I got into playing guitar and that that
worked out a lot better for me. But any but
that was like right in line, you know. It was
like music skateboarding. It's like all of my friends loved
c Ky and Jackass and kind of tried to emulate
some of that stuff, not as crazy, but still did
some pretty dumb stuff, which I'm sure a teger that
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watched that stuff. You know, you put yourself in a
shopping car and run yourself into a bush or some
other whatever dumb shit that you that you think you
can do and pull off.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I've got the scars to tell the stories too, same
same thing. My shins are destroyed from skating and chopping karting.
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I definitely have some nice road rash from trying to
take hills that I could not take kind of on
the skateboard. That was definitely. It was like a yearly thing.
I'm like, I can take this hill. I never could
take the hill. Going way too fast, you get the
wobbles and then it's game over.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that's how you learn.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That is that is how you learn. So moving on
to like pop culture, movie and TV's as a whole,
what was kind of the inciting incident that kind of
made you fall in love with that space. When it
comes to movies.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, you know, back then there was a different kind
of direction with the band, and it was very heavily
like horror influenced. And my dad is a pretty big
scary movie buff. He always was like, you know, he'd
always be like, let's go see this woman, and I
was there was a lot of like horror movies in
the house back then, so it kind of was like
(10:51):
an easy transition because I was like, oh, they're you know,
they they dig horror movies and I dig horror movies.
So I thought that part of it was pretty cool.
I think maybe that kind of helped. But you know,
obviously it was the music that took hold and really
like stunk its teeth in, and it was like when
I found the band, I was obsessed with it off
the first note. I was like, always looking for bands
(11:13):
that didn't sound like other bands, and to me, c
k y, it's still that band and always been that band,
and that was really important, you know, like the horror influence,
the very unique sound of the music itself. It was
I was helpless, you know, I got obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is there any particular horror movie you're ember seeing when
you were a kid, being like, oh this is for me.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I'd say probably my favorite horror movie of all
time would be Bromstroker's Dracula. I literally have the castle
like tattooed on my leg. I love that fucking movie
so much, with like Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing and
Keanu Reeves as the little I forget what his he
was like a real estate agent, you know the one, right, yep,
(11:56):
Gary Oldman as Dracula. Fucking ye, dude, Like that's my
favorite favorite movie.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's so awesome. I try and see what bands do
on tour as far as movies. Do you ever catch
movies on tour? Is that like an off day thing
or not? Really? So?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, last night, well, the past the yeah, the past
two nights. I got schooled on spinal tap because you'd
always seen like clips of it. Obviously it's like super
fucking necessity, like a necessity to watch as a musician,
And I've always seen clips, but I don't remember watching
the first one from start to finish. We watched the
second one and I thought it was fucking hilarious, and
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so he was like, you gotta watch the first one.
So we all watched both last night and the night before,
and god damn, it's just so accurate, like how that
movie depicts touring and being in a band, so like
watching it with the boys, it's just like, yeah, there
that goes up. Yep, Look, the girlfriend's the manager now
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like classic, you know, all of like the tour band
is they just nailed it, and they nailed it forty
years ago and they all those things still happen every
single day, So like, yeah, it's cool to watch, you know,
movies with the boys on the road. I've always you know,
played the show, maybe watch a movie or there's a
(13:15):
lot of downtime during the day so you can always
catch a flick while you're driving and stuff like that.
And I think it's really fun to like to watch
it with the band guys too, because it's like a
fun like team building exercise. Everybody's fucking cracking up and
cracking jokes sick.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That's awesome. Yeah, I haven't caught the new Spinal Tap yet. Dude,
don't think it was in theaters very long. I think
it was just barely in at all. Because I definitely
want to watch that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
You definitely need to watch it. Like I thought it
was fucking hilarious. Man, it was. It was really cool
to see like how it became what it is now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, it's always cool to see kind of these legacy
sequels happen that definitely don't need to happen. But usually
when something like that comes about, it's it's a good
reason and they make it because they had a good
idea to make it. It's like Spaceball's Too is coming out,
or like the this year and next year. Yeah, like
(14:09):
they got like the whole team Everyone's coming back, which
I'm like, Okay, if that's the case, then they probably
have a really great idea in order to bring it back.
Because the box office landscape is so weird nowadays.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean we're living in a world where they
made Happy Gilmore Too for some reason, so they just
sequels are in. I guess.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, I guess sequels have always been in and it's
a weird thing where it's, like I said, when it's
something like that where it hasn't been made for like
forty years, they made one movie and they haven't touched it,
and then it comes back nine times out of ten,
there's a good reason for it, and the creators or
whoever was involved had this idea to make it work
because that's either going to hit or miss super hard.
(14:52):
You know, it's you know a lot of people that
watch that where adults. Then you know forty years ago
that it's a long time, they're probably not going to
the movies anymore. So you kind of got to catch
this weird in between audience.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's weird. Yeah, Like usually a sequels done within like
five years of the first, you know, and it's all
still kind of fresh, but like forty years later for sure,
like Spinal Tap, they nailed it. But the Happy Goo
More maybe is that one out of ten that didn't
hit the hard right?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah? I didn't watch that one either, only because I
haven't watched the original in so long and I wanted
to watch both and I just haven't got And Netflix,
I say, it's like probably every week, but most things
on Netflix that happened that they're just there, They're gone,
and I forget about them and I never go back
to it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's the culture we have there. It's just like short
attention spans, you know, and it's just pumping stuff out
all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Exactly, and especially on that streamer, like everything's just they're
gone forgotten, see you. Besides like maybe two things that
like hit the zeitgeist and blow Up or whatever, but
everything else is doing everything weekly and those are in
the conversation for two months. If you're a TV show
or even I mean, I guess most streaming movies don't
really do anything for anyone, you know what I mean.
(16:05):
It's really hard to be a streaming movie and actually
like breakthrough everything else that's going on when there's like
five really good TV shows happening at one. So it's
like almost impossible to like, hey, I'm gonna put this
movie out and hope it hits somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know what's crazy now too, is that, you know,
I'm from a time where you used to have to
watch like a show one episode per week, and you'd
be like stay tuned next week for the you know,
the finale or the conclusion part two. And it's like nowadays,
you're gonna get a new TV show. It's gonna have
ten one hour long episodes, you know, and it's like
(16:40):
it's a ten hour movie basically, And you know, the
whole binge watching thing is like this new thing, and
there goes your day. You know, if that's what you're
gonna do, what else you're gonna do in a day?
If you're watching ten hours at the TV show.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. I'm I think
it's dying because like, like like I said, everything else
is switch to weekly, like event TV is kind of
it's not the same as it as it was, you know,
for sure, I don't think it's ever going to be
the same because of just how things are nowadays. But
I mean there's there's a lot more shows that are like, Nope,
(17:15):
we're just doing weekly and and deal with it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, that's how the New Dester kind of rolled out
that way too, and Squid Games too that they're doing
like little clusters. So it's like you get just get like,
you know, your mouth water and the then they're like,
hold up, you gotta wait two weeks and everybody's like
building anticipation is important because then you really like I
don't know about you, but when I when I watch
something that I'm really like interested in, if it's super intense,
(17:42):
like I'll watch it and then I'll think about it
for like several hours afterwards, like damn, you like my
wife and I just rewatched Better Call Soul, and I'm
like so entrenched in the storyline that it's like an
episode ends and we're like, damn, you know what, We'll
like eat dinner, watch one and then like, well, I'm
washing the dishes. I'm thinking to myself like damn, how
(18:04):
how did Jimmy get himself into that situation? And it's
like total not real, fictional character, and I'm thinking about it,
like Damn, that sucks that, you know, you know, Kim
got fired from her job and it's just so weird,
you know. But I think that there's a testament to
like a good show. You should be able to take
it with you and it should like affect you and
you know, I don't know, make an impressions.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
My favorite thing is when like I go to a
movie with a group of friends or something, is like
the drive home.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Talking about the movie yeah, because I still wasn't and
it's like fresh and everybody's like, oh, you remember this
part when they said that, Yeah, I think that's cool.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know, it's the best. I love Better Call Sauwyeah
so much. Stain movie hot take. I think it might
be better than Breaking Bad, even by like the tiniest
amount there's I don't know I watched it. I think
I went through and just after it was all out,
I just went through and watched all of it at once,
kind of like binge washed it over like a few months.
(19:00):
And I also the same thing, I got sucked in,
and I did not think I would get sucked in
at all.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It's super cool storyline, Yeah, yeah it does. That's very
like entrenching. It puts you there with them, and you
do have a hot take. I love both, but after
watching both now, I will say Breaking Bad got so
intense because it's such a like fantastical situation and like
(19:29):
something that normal people can't even fathom. At one point,
I literally was like about to have a panic attack
and I had to turn it off. That never happened
with Better Calls. Also for that reason, Breaking Bad for
me is just that little touch more because I was
just like, you know, it's just crazy when you put
these crazy situations into somebody like a regular person's life,
(19:50):
and it's just like they're right on that precipice of
getting caught, and there's all that anxiety and there's all
that stress, and it's just like that really conveyed it
well in that show, and I was like holding my
breath and when intense things were happening and I wouldn't
realize it, and then the scene would break and I'd
be like, you know, like that's the testament of a
really killer show. Good writing.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh yeah, Vince Gilligan is one of the best ever ever.
I think a thing of What Better Call Saul is
why I think it has a little bit of a
leg up for me at least, is that it is
kind of like the close of the franchise, Like the
end of that show is really the end of the
Breaking Bad universe. Like it really like the last season
is like that the true epilogue two series.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
After the El Camino movie and everything. It's weird how
they rolled that out, and I feel like they kind
of rushed the last seasons. It's like there's just one
episode where it's like, I don't want to spoil it
for anybody, but I feel like they rushed it. And
then the epilogue was like the last three or four
episodes and you're supposed to stop at episode nine of
season six Better Call Saul, watch all of Breaking Bad,
(20:54):
El Camino, and then come back to the epilogue of
season six, which is you know, but it is cool.
It's like a nice closure, you know, the final chapter
of the book and you can finally like put it
to rest. Because breaking bad ends with so many questions.
You're like, what about this guy, this day, this day?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, exactly, And I thought that was so beautiful how
because like spinoffs can be the same thing as we
were talking about, like sequels or reboots or whatever. They
can kind of just be like why is this? Why
did this get made? You know, like who needed this?
But I think now they're they're becoming kind of like
integral parts to the larger story of what it was
started in something else, and I think that's what makes
it engaging, and that's what makes it worth watching something,
(21:33):
because I think that's why I saw too. I was like,
they made a show about the sleazy lawyer, guy who cares,
and then I.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Kept seeing getting you like love him and you're like, oh,
he's just a little trickster, but then his tricks get
fucking more devious by the day, and it's like, wow,
you're actually a scumbag.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean yeah, and that's that's more like the the
best thing Vince Gilligan Diddy. I mean he did it
in Breaking Bad too, like Walter White is terrible.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Turn them into a monster dude, Yeah, awful.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What kind of shows that like the monster was kind
of always there. It was just kind of like.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah for both of them too, for Saul and for Walter.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, and that's a great thing because you like feel
for these people that are terrible, and there's a lot
of shows that do that. Like obviously Sopranos is kind
of like one of the first ones where it's like
all these people are terrible, but you care and you
want to know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, exactly. My wife, My wife was like falling in love.
She's just like, oh, I want Jimmy to get away
with it. And it's like he's the bad guy, like
he's fucking these people over, like you like, he's scamming everybody,
and like she's like, oh, I just you know, I
just I want him to get away with it. It's like, okay,
I mean, so did I to be fair, I'm just like,
(22:44):
oh God, what's gonna happen in And you know, because
you see Breaking Bad and it's like, well, he doesn't
he survives this situation. So how does he get out
of it? It's super fun. I think it's a really
killer show. We got stuck on it, that's how That's
how cool it is. We've been talking about Vince Gilligan
shows for like ten minutes now.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a testament. He's fresh in
my mind too, because I get screeners for TV series
to review them, and I have the new Vince Gilligan show.
I can't talk about it, but it's cool to see
Vince Gilligan still doing the thing. Yeah, that's all say.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
About I'll be there, dude. Yeah, he's great. I think
he's one of the great writers of the last little
generation here.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Harvecent totally agreed. Yeah, so you were talking a little
bit about the new Spinal Tap and the old Spinal
Tap and better call Saul. What else have you been watching?
And it doesn't have to be like recently, It could
be like this year as a whole. Is there any
new stuff you've been super into, any old stuff you're
in revisiting and falling back in love with, or I
love old stuff that you loved when you were younger,
(23:51):
then you revisit and you and it didn't hit the
same anything like.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That or h it's different and it's better because now
you understand what's happening. Maybe you watch this kid and
you're like, oh, I missed that part.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
To be honest, my wife and I have just been
chewing through like Netflix stuff. She'll just find it and
just we'll like watch it while we're cooking or something
and eating dinner. You know what I really like that
that train Wrecked series on Netflix where they talk about
like all of the shit that's gone like horribly wrong,
like that cruise that broke down in the middle of
the ocean and they had to like survive for a
(24:24):
week and a half with no power and no like
running water and food and they were getting like the
helicoptered in food that was crazy. Or the or the
one I forget what it was, Unknown Caller. Did you
hear read that or watch that one?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Is that the Cats one?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know if you could say. It's the one
that about the kids that are in like high school
and this and this one girl keeps getting like incredibly harassed.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't want to give any spoilers, but the Unknown
Caller was fucked up, dude.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's called Unknown Number of the High
School Catfish.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's why I said, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I knew it was like a really weird long name,
but yeah, I watched that severely fucked.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Up, super fun.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, Like I was like what.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, yeah, when you find out, Yeah, you find out
and then it's like oh, ship, well you know you
know who it is. But then there's still forty five
minutes more of like the show left, and it's like,
what is going to happen here?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah? The way that The only thing I didn't like
about that is the way some of the interviews like
spun questions to the kids. I felt like it was
a little manipulative, and I didn't really like.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That the parents too.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, but that was a wild question, like.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh, maybe it's this person, and then the next person
will come in here and be like, oh, it's definitely them,
and then new information comes in and you're like, well,
now maybe it's this person, and then when they find out,
you're just like that wasn't any of those people? The
mind fuck? I love a good mind fuck you know toes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I love things that will surprise you and shock you.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, my wife watches a lot of like television from
Chile and Spanish and stuff, and I can't remember the name. Yeah,
not telemundough, but like, yeah, we watch a lot of
like Chilean culture shows and I can't remember the names
off the top of my head. But between all those
different ones, we've been, you know, keeping pretty occupied with those.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Very fair. Is there any any recent movie trips that
have been memorable for you other than Spinal Tap?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Obviously, Spinal Tap is the only one. Like, I don't
think I've laughed out hard in a long time, you know.
And it was cool to watch it with these guys
because they love it, and it's cool to watch it
with a band because it's about a band, and it's
so painfully accurate that we're all just looking at each
other like yep, well look what's next. Oh yeah, you know,
(26:46):
like you know there's a problem with the catering. Yeah cool, awesome,
you know, like technical issues, you know, logistical issues, like
we've all lived that it and it just hits so
much harder when you're watching it with the band that
you're in, because you're like, well, here we go, boys,
this is life we chose, and it's all gonna happen
everything we're watching right now is going to happen and
(27:06):
over the next three weeks, cuz get to get Yeah.
For all everybody that's watching, my advice to you is
get together with your band and have like a band movie.
And I watch both of the spinal taps and you'll
all it'll be a team building exercise.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That's a really good idea. I think something similar that
it's like, it's in that similar vein. I watched the
New Naked Gun movie a few weeks ago. Nice yeah,
which is I remember watching the trailer and obviously, like
Liam Neeson has been on this like weird kick for
the last ten years where he's just in basically Taken
but bad for ten years, just different narrations of Taken,
(27:47):
just as terrible movies. And when they announced this, I
was like, huh, that's interesting, Okay, weird And I watch
the trailer and I'm like, I don't know if this
is gonna be for me, and I didn't watch it
was in theaters even though I got I got like
rave reviews. I think it did pretty well in the
box office and everything like that, which is very rare
for in twenty twenty five for an R rated reboot
(28:08):
comedy to do well in the box office, right, And
I had a few friends over and we were like,
you know, like going through the movies, like oh yea,
let's just time watch a movie. And then I was like, hey,
I haven't seen this, and none of us saw it,
so we're like, okay, let's just pop it on and
it It is honestly hilarious. It's awesome, very I don't
watch that. It's very stupid, but like purpose it was
(28:30):
supposed to be, and some of the bits don't land,
but some of the bits really landed, and it's just
a funny, dumb, like great, turn your brain off, have
some laughs with some friends kind of movie. I would
definitely recommend watching it like that. That that'd be a
good like tour movie to boot up with with the
rest of the dudes and and just sit there and
laugh at how absurd and silly it is. And honestly
(28:51):
have some pretty awesome choreograph fights sequences, which is like
felt so unneeded but awesome at the same time.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It was.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It was great. Ian Wilson is great, Pamela Anderson's in
it also. It's just really funny and it's good to
watch a movie that doesn't take itself seriously at all.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Sometimes yeah, yeah, we need a good laugh, and like
Liam Neeson has always been great at that, So you
have certainly piqued my interests.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Very cool I did. A few days ago. I went
and saw there's a new horror movie in theaters called
Shelby Oaks. And before I talk about the movie, it's
important to talk about the creator of this movie, because
it was made by this guy, Chris Stuckman. He is
a film critic YouTuber and he has been for like years.
He's kind of like one of the og film critic
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YouTube guys, and it has like a really really big following.
And his goal was to always create movies and then
he finally had an idea and wanted to do it.
He made a Kickstarter because obviously making movies are ungodly expensive,
even low budget movies are still you know, hundreds and
thousands of dollars. So he started like a Kickstarter goal
(30:00):
for two or fifty thousand, and he raised like almost
one point four million. Honestly, I think it's like one
of the most successful kickstarters like ever, and he was
like shocked, blown away, and then eventually he put like
a cut together because he was just gonna make this
movie put on his YouTube channel. That was his goal.
He just wanted to make this movie. And then it
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got wind of Mike Flanagan, who has created some of
the best Netflix horror series there is.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He made Doctor Sleep, the Stephen King adaptation. He did
the Life of Chuck, which is another Stephen King adaptation.
He just wrapped a Carry series as well. Incredible writer, filmmaker,
TV series maker. He got wind of it and attached
himself to be an executive producer of the movie, and
then got Neon to distribute the movie. So movie that
(30:47):
was just planning to be on a YouTube channel now
gets a wide theatrical release, which is man himiself is
super super cool.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And what is it called again, Shelby Oaks.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Oh yeah, it takes place in Ohio and yeah, you're right,
you're all right. The basic premise is that there is
this this group of four people and they have a
YouTube channel called the Paranormal Paranoids and it's kind of
like like ghost Hunters or whatever, you know, where they
go and investigate these paranormal things, and that they have
(31:23):
a YouTube channel about it. But one day the four
go missing, and the story kind of takes place twelve
years after the disappearance, where the sister of one of
the group it still believes that she's out there and
alive and she hasn't given up on finding her sister
wherever she may be. And it's it's this really cool
(31:44):
mix of like found footage, because the whole thing starts
off like like a documentary, like a true crime documentary,
and that's how the movie starts and kind of gives
you the lay of the land of what it is,
and that in itself was super immersive and it really
sucks you right into the story of being like, Okay,
this is what happened, this is what's going on. Here
we go. There's definitely I don't think I loved the ending,
(32:05):
which is fine. It happens, yeah, And it's hard too,
because it's like when something becomes like supernatural or any
kind of like that in horror, that can either land
or not land. So but for an original horror movie
created by a guy who is a YouTuber, insanely impressive,
Like the movie looks amazing, it has a great score,
it has like really dope atmosphere. It is actually genuinely creepy.
(32:30):
There's definitely points where I was like, damn, this is
like really creepy. A few the jump scares got me,
which jump shares can be cheap cheap gets, you know
all the time, but these are effective ones in this one,
for sure. But I can't wait to see what this
guy does past this, because I think this year has
been a really good year for original movies, especially original
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horror movies. But it's so cool to see someone come
from like that background like that, create this idea, get
it made, make it happen, and and and I think
I think it already made its budget back in its
opening weekend, which is.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
In theaters.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, I just released out in theaters last weekend, so
it's really new. But that's a high recommend if you're
a horror fan. Definitely, Definitely it has some blair Witch vibes. Obviously,
it's not all found footage, so it's not totally that,
but there's definitely parts that remind me of blair Witch.
There's parts that remind me of Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh, that's one of the scariest movies.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, Okay, you already got them. You convinced me.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Say those It's not as good as those, but it
is still very very good. I try to type of
expectation that I guess, but it is. It's a super
solid movie. And I just implore anyone who is a
horror fan to go seek out this movie whiles in
theaters and support movies like that. So more movies like
that happened, because I feel like so many people complain
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that there's not original movies or media out there, and
then there's so many options to go support that and
they don't, and they just complained about it not existing
when it does exist. So you gotta go support this.
So definitely go check out Shelby Ou because it's super
super awesome, awesome movie.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
The time of the year for a good horror movie too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's perfect perfect. The Black Phone two is out, and
I really want to check that out too, because I
really like the first one and the second one looks
really cool and I've heard good things about it. So
that's another one. I'm going to check out.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Easton hog Kit as like like a scary dude, a murderer. Yeah,
kind of crazy to picture him as that role. I
haven't seen it yet, but I did go to Halloween
Horror Nights and there was a lot of black Phone
stuff all over the place, so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, he's awesome in it too, because the first movie
it's he's there is the supernatural element, but it's it's
kind of at arm's length, and I know the second
one really dives into that supernatural element. Not to give
anything away that happens in the first or or the second,
but he is great in it, and like, like that's
why I thought too. I remember when the first movie
came out. I was like, I was like, Ethan Hawk
(35:00):
is kind of like a slasher.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Villain, right, yeah, because we're like from the nineties and stuff,
and it's just hard to picture him as like a serious,
like scary role. But if it hits, I mean that
good for him. And maybe he has that you know,
tool under his belt.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So yeah, he's he's great. I can't Yeah, he's awesome.
And every time I hear him an interview, he seems
like such a down to earth like dude. It's it's
kind of wild.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Chad said he watched a Black Phone one and he
couldn't stop thinking about reality bites, which is crazy. Yeah
have you seen that movie? Yeah? See Chad's asking how
old are.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You have thirty five?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Thirty five?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, this is what yeah, well, yeah, nineteen ninety four, it's.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I know, yeah, yeah, he said that that's like a
perfect coming of age movie to see for like in
the nineties. Yeah, and that's like the Ethan Hawk that
I picture when I think and now he's like a
slasher guy, which is crazy, but I mean, if it hits,
it hit, how you doing. Yeah, man, fucking Ethan Hawk.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I know him from Reality Bites and a bunch of
other nineties stuff, and he was like a slacker, kind
of like a.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Stoner gun cool, the cool kind of guy in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
But when I watch Black Phone, honestly, that's all like
everything about his voice and every I can, I can
see his face. So if you don't really recognize him
from a movie, the whole time, I'm just thinking about
this dude from Reality Bites, which is a great role
that he played. So check that one out and then
might be you'll never be able to watch Black Phone
if you.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I guess that. The one thing that I remember him
from the most, I think is Training Day now that
now that I look it up, because I forget that guy. Yeah,
and he kind of disappears into it.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, check out reality bites.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I will check out reality.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, it's funny because, yeah, that role is like the
quintessential like cool guy, you know, and maybe hey, maybe
it's in the same universe and maybe you know, turns
not so cool and so he gets hurt and now
he's he's a black phone guy. Shit gets weird.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, he's called the grabber in it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Oh that's sexy.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, when you find out what he's doing, it's not
that sexy. He does have a shirtless scene.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Though, Yeah, does he ever reveal his face?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, you see his face in the first one a
little bit. Yeah. Interesting, he's like super he's like super pale.
He's like a I think he's a magician. And he
has this black with black balloons. It's it's creepy.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
That's creepy.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He's creepy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'll give it a shot. You talk to me.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Similar to what you've been doing about better call Saul.
I've been doing with this show called The Morning Show.
It's on Apple TV. I talked about it a few
weeks ago of how I started watching it because it
stars Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon and it's about this
morning show that's kind of like Good Morning America. And
I kind of put it off because I thought it
was kind of going to be like and I love
(37:53):
rom coms, so nothing against rom coms or anything, like
like a dramedy kind of comedic, blight bubbly kind of show.
So yeah, drama, comedy, drama, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I mean I get it, but I like a
good play on wheres.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yes, I didn't invent it, so I can't take her
I heard it first from you, Okay, then I'll take
credit for it. And so I put it off because
of that, and then eventually I was like, I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna start it. I love Appletitude, plus
almost every show they put out is incredible, so I'm
just I'm just gonna do it. And obviously I was like,
I grew up with friends, so Jennifer Aniston, you know,
(38:27):
everything like that. So I was like, okay, let me
check it out. And what I explained before is it
is such a dark show, like insanely dark, because it's
rooted very much in like real dark things that happened,
Like the show opens. Steve Carell is also in it
for the first couple of seasons and he was Jennifer
Anson's co host in the Morning Show and it starts
(38:50):
off with him getting me too for sexual art and
that kind of like drive. Yes, yeah, yeah. Steve Carell
has been in some like very awesome, serious roles.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I like him, man, I think he's cool. It's just
imagine a world, real world where Steve Carell gets canceled.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think that's also adds to it because like everyone
is right, you know who Steve Carrell is, you know, yeah, exactly,
And that's how he's played in this series too, where
he's like everyone loved him, everyone loved work with them,
you know, he was he was he was like the
guy you know, he was like the morning show TV
co host, you know, and then you find out the
dark truth about him and what he did. Very very cool.
(39:30):
And each season there's a time jump too, and they
and they make you kind of catch up where everything is.
And I always love stuff like that. I love that.
That to me, that sucks you in more because you're
already familiar with these people who are like, oh, they're
in a different point in their life, what has happened
since then? And they fill you in with that stuff.
And it's honest fourth season that's currently airing now, and
I'm just amazed with how they continue to put out constant,
(39:56):
creative and awesome dramatic television. I mean, I'm in awe
of it. I kind of described it as a mix
of like House House of Cards and Succession, and it
really does feel like that. And the creator was like
a producer on House of Cards, so it adds up.
I was like, where where did these people come from
that created the show and then went and research and
found that out? But what a great show. Aaron Pierre
(40:19):
is in this new season who he became kind of
famous through this Netflix movie of Rebel Ridge that came
out last year. It was like this action Netflix movie
that's actually very very good and he's the star of it.
And now he's going to be one of the Green
Lanterns and the upcoming DC Green Lantern show. His star
is rising and I'm stoked he's in it. Greta Lee
is in it, who was in Past Lives and the
(40:41):
Neutron movie. She's incredible and seeing Jennifer Andison because even
after Friends, she's kind of more known for like comedies
or rom coms or stuffing like that.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, she really like came into her own I think
in the last decade of what she's been working on.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
And seeing her like tackle this really complicated dramatic role
is so cool because I feel like it's like a
side we really haven't seen of her fully and it's
it's really cool to see her like flex her acting
chops because Reese Witherspoon, you've seen her acting serious stuff
Like obviously she's like most known for like Legally Blonde
and stuff like that, but she's been in serious movies
(41:20):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
He said, you said Reese Witherspoon, and he's like, yeah,
you've never really seen her without her spoon, have you.
That's all day with him, Dude, all day. He just
walks past and drops the gem right on it. That's
a talent. Yeah, it is. It's true, truly talent he has.
It took me a second. I was like, what did
he say?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh my god, those are the best two where your
first you're thrown off and then that's all day. Damn,
that's a talent. He's just a stand up.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, imagine you did bring.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Up Hollywood hornete. So I want to end on you.
What was your favorite part I haven't been Hollywood horneted
in a few years, so I'm a little out of
the loop. But what was your favorite house there that you.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Would It was really heavy with the terror Fire universe,
and I'm not like up to speed on it. But
we actually my wife and I and a bunch of
our buddies from LA. I'm from Tampa, so I've been
to the one in Orlando twenty times. This is the
first time I ever went to one in LA. And
the guys from in Flames were actually in town that
(42:19):
weekend too, and so we got like a big group
together and we all went and it was super fucking
fun because I am, like, I get scared so fucking easy,
but I love it. And like my wife is like
a little Chile and you know girls, she was like
I would walk in front and she would have her
arms around me and like, you know, yeah, it's scary,
jump scared, cool, I know it's coming. But like what
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was really scaring me was that she would she would
get scared and like a and like squeezed my torso
off and dude and I and then I'd be like ah,
and I was like double scared. And then the guys
in her flants were fucking cracking up, dude. They were
just like laughing at me the whole time. It was
it was fucking it was. But the Terrifier was really cool.
(43:02):
There was a Fallout one which I thought was kind
of cool. I'm a big Fallout fan. It wasn't as scary,
but it was cool to like literally walk through a vault,
you know, and like it was a vault, duh. It
was sick. It was really cool. I played the I
played fall Out three, I played Fallout four for hundreds
of hours, and then I loved the TV show. I
(43:24):
thought the TV show was super true to form and
very like lore accurate, and I think they did a
really good job. It wasn't like, you know, obviously it
Fallout is not a horror movie, but it's dark, you know,
it's dark, And they pulled a lot of really cool
references from the show and from the game that I
got that if you weren't as familiar with the lore,
(43:44):
maybe you didn't get it. And everybody else was like, yeah,
I don't really get that one, but me, I was like, oh, yeah,
it's sick. You know. They had the jumpsuits and everything,
and they had the robot that was like you know, destroyed,
and you got to walk through like the super duper
mart and it was all It was just really immersive.
It really felt like a post apocalyptic world. And then
there was another one. I don't remember what it was.
(44:05):
I think it might have been what's that one? The Purge.
The Purge world was crazy, bro. They had an old
decommissioned airplane that had I don't know, they must have
like actually crashed it. They must have actually flown it,
crashed it, and then transported it to the Halloween Hornites.
(44:25):
It's been there forever. I guess it's like kind of
a staple and they build around it. But you get
to walk like next to like a crash airplane, like
a full blown possibly. It was scary, dude. People freak out,
I could see, but like for me, everybody hates fucking flying,
but like to walk next to one like in that
(44:46):
grade of detail, and you know there's people like you
know trying like the Gangs of the Purgers kind of
trying to scare it. It was crazy, dude. They really
do a great job of like immersing the audience in
like whatever universe they're trying to showcase which I thought.
I thought it was killer. You know, Halloween Ornights in
LA was sick.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, I've only been to the one in Florida because
usually we'll like tack it on if we do it,
because we like to go vacation. We'll go to a
Universal and Disney and uh and sometimes we'll tack on
the Hollywood Hornies and stuff too. My wife is the
same exact way, because I'll always be wearing like a
backpack or something, and she'll be like holding onto the
backpack for dear life, like two inches behind me, and.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yep, it just amplifies it, like, yeah, yeah, I'm scared.
You know, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
I'm like, I know this feeling also, well.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, Halloween or PPSD.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, because I mean that's what the houses are predicated on.
Jump scares, Like that's all they are. They're all just
jump scares. But but they build the tension because a
jump secker is gonna get almost every time because you
can't help being surprised by something, even if you see
it coming. It's the shock of it happening that.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
You're like they're always projecting like sounds of other people screaming,
which I don't remember there's just constantly like there's a
tape in the background of just like people like with
like grotesque screams, like terrified, and that kind of puts
you on edge. And then like they do this thing
I think where they have like like a sheet of
aluminum that they stomp on. So it's like it's not
(46:18):
like they're just jumping out at you, because that, you know,
only goes so far, but like the percussiveness and the
sharp sound and like the flashing strobe, it's like like
I know, Okay, I'm gonna turn the corner. It's real
dark in here. I wonder what's gonna happen. There's four doors,
h two people jump out of two of them, like yeah,
but like with all those other added elements, it's like
(46:38):
that's how they get it, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah. Every time. The creepiest one I did, they had
an US house, like right after US came out of
the Jordan Peele movie, and there was one where it
was a room and you know how they they mix
in like actors with like pretty good like a mannequins
and profits, and there was one where it was an
empty room and I think it's like the locker room
from when you go in the basement in the movie, Yeah,
(47:02):
and someone sitting with the back facing and I was like, oh,
that's a mannequin, and then it slowly turned around. I
was like, Oh my god, that's so creepy. And then
the end is all the people in the red jumpsuits
and they're mixed with people and like mannequins and you
can't tell. And there's just like so two lines of it,
and you're going down the middle and you're just like, oh,
and that's the end of it. You're just like, oh
(47:23):
my god, Oh my god. Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, that's a great movie. I think Jordan Peele's done
a really great job with all of his horror. I
want to see that one that he just did. I
don't know if it's out yet or it's coming out soon,
but him, have you heard of that one?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
There?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I know he produced it. He didn't like direct it
or write it or anything. He's like attached to the
name and I've heard mixed things, but I still want
to see it.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
I want to see it too because I'm a big
football fan and I think it's pretty crazy. It's like
a football player that sells his soul to the Devil
to Win. It looked pretty cool and the trailers I
saw and they're promoting it really hard all around LA
so kind of piqued my interest a bit. And I
love Jordan Peele, so I like what he's done. I
like what he did with the Twilight Zone. I love it. Actually,
(48:08):
he really did a great job with that.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, he's awesome. He's so so.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Cool, and I love and Peel. Dude, that's some of
the funniest shit. Like, dude, I could quote that all day.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
The one that always sticks in my mind forever is
the bitch one, And I.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Said, what was nothing? I like the one where they're
a cat calling. That probably my favorite one ever. When
they're like southern like cat calling and he's like, miss Daisy,
you smell like a fresh rain and just as refreshing
or whatever, and he's like that ass though I can't
(48:45):
go much further than that on this podcast, I'm sure,
because it's he says some quite non savory things, but
fuck dude that they are so funny.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Dude, so funny, and it's so cool to see them
kind of both flourishing their own things, you know. I
obviously Jordan Peele is is what. Keiko mcinckee is still
doing the acting thing and a ton of stuff. He's everywhere.
You see him just pop up in the most random things.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Right, Oh yeah, there is hardness see him do anything
serious because it's you know, like yeah, kind of like
like eric Andre is the same way. You know, he's
starting to do a lot of acting and stuff. I
thought he was hilarious and what is it the Gemstones?
Oh Righteous jimsones Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, he's hilarious. Eric Andre
(49:26):
is a fucking nut.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah he's He is so funny. He was also involved
in a really good when Jackass did that movie a
few years ago, which honestly was absurdly hilarious. I could
not believe how funny he was seeing a Jackass movie.
How many years later it came out of a number
of years at this point, I think like five years,
maybe longer, but Jackass forever, I think is what it
was called. Great great watch. If you need a good laugh.
(49:49):
That's also another good laugh one. But he was in
that too, obviously has himself, everyone's themselves in it. He
was in that in this like crazy skit that I
think was a total joke on MGK, which was, which
is really funny.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
There you go. I liked it already.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
He's funny. He's funny. And yeah, go check out Jackass
Forever too. That's that's another good one. They were supposed
to bring back the TV show.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh go ahead. How are you gonna have that in
twenty twenty five? Dude? That doesn't work the same, Dude.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
I thought the movie would be so stupid, and it
was insanely funny. I saw it in theaters with a
group of friends, and I could not believe how much
I was laughing. I could not believe it, like, seriously
could not believe how funny it was, and seeing how
old these guys are and the dumb shit they're still doing.
I mean, I think it ends with Gihann Oxwell going into.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
The hospital, so thank surprise.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, he like broke his collarbone or something because he
rode like a fucking bowl or some shit. What the
fuck do you think it was gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You're like classic crazy, absolutely absolutely insane. But Mike, thank
you so much for doing this. Man, it was really
awesome chatting with you.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, man, good chatting with you. And I'm gonna check
out that what what was that horror movie you said
again from Shelby Oaks. I keep remembering Sherman Oaks because
that's a place in la that I Yeah, it's Shelby Oaks.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, Chris Stuckman. Also, he's the guy who made it.
If you google him, a ton of stuffle coming. He's
obviously doing a lot of press for that right now too.
Before we get out of here, please let people know
what is going on where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, we have a brand new single out. It's called
Can't Stop Running. It's everywhere you can listen to music.
There's a music video for Can't Stop Running. It's going
to be least on Halloween, so you definitely got to
check that out. We're about to hit the road in
the UK for the next three weeks, so if you're
watching them from the UK, get your asked to a
show and yeah next next up, we've got Australia in January,
(51:47):
and I guess I can say it now because it
just announced, but we'll see you at Sonic Temple in
Ohio in twenty twenty six, So see you guys there.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Oh yeah, very awesome. I will link all the links
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Medicore Nerds, the podcast that features members of your favorite
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What's up, Tue? Thanks for having me.
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Very stoked to have you here, very stoked to get
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Coffee and movies.
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before we get into the pop culture talk, we're gonna
kick off the show like we do every week, with
the Middle Core Nerds Song of the Week. The song
of the week this week is from Enders. This is
dark Weather.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
I'm thinking name the sunrise. You tell me I have
grown you don't know. You don't know, but I still
want to believe it. I won't to see me there.
(02:41):
I don't know, I don't know. The tracks don't leave
me there, So please don't see.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
That, uh.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Love, It's like cold talk weather wastetand to gather baby,
we could.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
Find someone inside.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Or it's like cold dark weather, it wasteand to gather baby,
we could find some more day side or.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
On this side of.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
Lost it in its widelight, in that yellow glow because
you don't know, you don't know, the temperatures fall them
and you that bitter air to wake up.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
I need you to.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
Don't see.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
That. It's like so weather it wetand together baby, we
can buy someone bad.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
It's like.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
So whether it wand together baby week some side up.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Side weather. If we together, maybe we can find some
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warm th inside of.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Again. That was Ace Enders with dark Weather. This is
off his new soul album Poster Syndrome that's out now
via Pure Noise Records. If your name is familiar to you,
he's the singer of the band They're November a most
you know, Emo kids, Elder Emo, whatever you want to
call it these days, you know they're late November so
his If you like their November, you're probably like his
solo stuff. So go check it out if you like
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what you heard with that song. And for more music recitations,
you can check out the middle corner. It's pullus five
Fi playlist. I update it daily. You can find it
in the link in the show notes below. Now, I
want to kind of connect the Ky to the pop
culture of it all, because obviously Ky has been a
massive staple in various different realms of pop culture. And
(06:32):
I was listening to you on the Riff Tacos podcast
and how you're talking about how it's so cool that
you like grew up like idolizing Cky and now you're
in Cky. So I'm excited to hear your perspective on
this and now, whether it's the Tony Hawk pro skater
A soundtrack, whether it was the Cky DVDs which eventually
(06:53):
obviously turned into Jackass and turned into be Alabam. What
is your favorite Ky pop culture moment.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well, it's funny that you said Ky DVDs because when
I found the band, I don't even think DVDs were
a thing yet. Because the first time I ever like
a piece of my first Cky anything was Cky two
K on a VHS tape Ky two K on ogv
VHS and that's what started it for me. And that
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was before Jackass or before any of the Tony Hawk stuff.
But as a KY fan, like when they were growing still,
I think it was really cool to see them go
from like the Cky two K stuff onto Jackass, onto
like a syndicated television show. And as a fan, it
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was like my favorite band was getting this crazy opportunity
and like a breakthrough, you know, breakout moment, And for me,
that was like really cool to watch that. And then again,
I guess it kind of happened again when Fivla Bam
came out too, Like both of those moments were like,
holy shit, my favorite band is like getting of exposures
and that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
It's cool because I feel like that that was a
thing very much in like the two thousands and the nineties,
and I think it kind of went away for a
while for these kind of like alt bands to be
featured in these like massive pop culture things, and I
think it's now turning around where it's that stuff is
happening again. I think it's really cool to see, but
I think I kind of like set a weird precedent
(08:23):
with that kind of stuff because of what they were
doing at the time was kind of crazy and it's
so funny because there's the it's really crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember owning the c One Duties when I was
a kid, and that kind of like was pretty formative
for me because obviously I went on to love Jackass
and people at Bamon and everything like that. But I
remember even having the realization that like oh Bam, Margierra,
oh his brothers and CEO, Oh, that's crazy, and like
you know, putting those pieces together when you're a kid
is so cool, and it's it's so wild that they've
(08:54):
been like engrossed with this stuff from not not from
the jump, but for a very.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Long time truly from the jump, I mean like yeah,
it was all super synonymous for the for the for
the path. It was like, you know, the skateboarding culture,
the music culture, kind of how they sewed themselves together,
like you can't have one without the others. So yeah,
it was very synonymous.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I think that was I tried skateboarding when I
was a teenager. I was not good at it at all,
and then I got into playing guitar and that that
worked out a lot better for me. But any but
that was like right in line, you know. It was
like music skateboarding. It's like all of my friends loved
c Ky and Jackass and kind of tried to emulate
some of that stuff, not as crazy, but still did
some pretty dumb stuff, which I'm sure a teger that
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watched that stuff. You know, you put yourself in a
shopping car and run yourself into a bush or some
other whatever dumb shit that you that you think you
can do and pull off.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I've got the scars to tell the stories too, same
same thing. My shins are destroyed from skating and chopping karting.
I guess yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I definitely have some nice road rash from trying to
take hills that I could not take kind of on
the skateboard. That was definitely. It was like a yearly thing.
I'm like, I can take this hill. I never could
take the hill. Going way too fast, you get the
wobbles and then it's game over.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, that's how you learn.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
That is that is how you learn. So moving on
to like pop culture, movie and TV's as a whole,
what was kind of the inciting incident that kind of
made you fall in love with that space. When it
comes to movies.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Well, you know, back then there was a different kind
of direction with the band, and it was very heavily
like horror influenced. And my dad is a pretty big
scary movie buff. He always was like, you know, he'd
always be like, let's go see this woman, and I
was there was a lot of like horror movies in
the house back then, so it kind of was like
(10:51):
an easy transition because I was like, oh, they're you know,
they they dig horror movies and I dig horror movies.
So I thought that part of it was pretty cool.
I think maybe that kind of helped. But you know,
obviously it was the music that took hold and really
like stunk its teeth in, and it was like when
I found the band, I was obsessed with it off
the first note. I was like, always looking for bands
(11:13):
that didn't sound like other bands, and to me, c
k y, it's still that band and always been that band,
and that was really important, you know, like the horror influence,
the very unique sound of the music itself. It was
I was helpless, you know, I got obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is there any particular horror movie you're ember seeing when
you were a kid, being like, oh this is for me.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I'd say probably my favorite horror movie of all
time would be Bromstroker's Dracula. I literally have the castle
like tattooed on my leg. I love that fucking movie
so much, with like Anthony Hopkins as Van Helsing and
Keanu Reeves as the little I forget what his he
was like a real estate agent, you know the one, right, yep,
(11:56):
Gary Oldman as Dracula. Fucking ye, dude, Like that's my
favorite favorite movie.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
That's so awesome. I try and see what bands do
on tour as far as movies. Do you ever catch
movies on tour? Is that like an off day thing
or not? Really? So?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah, last night, well, the past the yeah, the past
two nights. I got schooled on spinal tap because you'd
always seen like clips of it. Obviously it's like super
fucking necessity, like a necessity to watch as a musician,
And I've always seen clips, but I don't remember watching
the first one from start to finish. We watched the
second one and I thought it was fucking hilarious, and
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so he was like, you gotta watch the first one.
So we all watched both last night and the night before,
and god damn, it's just so accurate, like how that
movie depicts touring and being in a band, so like
watching it with the boys, it's just like, yeah, there
that goes up. Yep, Look, the girlfriend's the manager now
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like classic, you know, all of like the tour band
is they just nailed it, and they nailed it forty
years ago and they all those things still happen every
single day, So like, yeah, it's cool to watch, you know,
movies with the boys on the road. I've always you know,
played the show, maybe watch a movie or there's a
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lot of downtime during the day so you can always
catch a flick while you're driving and stuff like that.
And I think it's really fun to like to watch
it with the band guys too, because it's like a
fun like team building exercise. Everybody's fucking cracking up and
cracking jokes sick.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
That's awesome. Yeah, I haven't caught the new Spinal Tap yet. Dude,
don't think it was in theaters very long. I think
it was just barely in at all. Because I definitely
want to watch that.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
You definitely need to watch it. Like I thought it
was fucking hilarious. Man, it was. It was really cool
to see like how it became what it is now.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, it's always cool to see kind of these legacy
sequels happen that definitely don't need to happen. But usually
when something like that comes about, it's it's a good
reason and they make it because they had a good
idea to make it. It's like Spaceball's Too is coming out,
or like the this year and next year. Yeah, like
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they got like the whole team Everyone's coming back, which
I'm like, Okay, if that's the case, then they probably
have a really great idea in order to bring it back.
Because the box office landscape is so weird nowadays.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, I mean we're living in a world where they
made Happy Gilmore Too for some reason, so they just
sequels are in. I guess.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, I guess sequels have always been in and it's
a weird thing where it's, like I said, when it's
something like that where it hasn't been made for like
forty years, they made one movie and they haven't touched it,
and then it comes back nine times out of ten,
there's a good reason for it, and the creators or
whoever was involved had this idea to make it work
because that's either going to hit or miss super hard.
(14:52):
You know, it's you know a lot of people that
watch that where adults. Then you know forty years ago
that it's a long time, they're probably not going to
the movies anymore. So you kind of got to catch
this weird in between audience.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It's weird. Yeah, Like usually a sequels done within like
five years of the first, you know, and it's all
still kind of fresh, but like forty years later for sure,
like Spinal Tap, they nailed it. But the Happy Goo
More maybe is that one out of ten that didn't
hit the hard right?
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah? I didn't watch that one either, only because I
haven't watched the original in so long and I wanted
to watch both and I just haven't got And Netflix,
I say, it's like probably every week, but most things
on Netflix that happened that they're just there, They're gone,
and I forget about them and I never go back
to it.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
That's the culture we have there. It's just like short
attention spans, you know, and it's just pumping stuff out
all the time.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Exactly, and especially on that streamer, like everything's just they're
gone forgotten, see you. Besides like maybe two things that
like hit the zeitgeist and blow Up or whatever, but
everything else is doing everything weekly and those are in
the conversation for two months. If you're a TV show
or even I mean, I guess most streaming movies don't
really do anything for anyone, you know what I mean.
(16:05):
It's really hard to be a streaming movie and actually
like breakthrough everything else that's going on when there's like
five really good TV shows happening at one. So it's
like almost impossible to like, hey, I'm gonna put this
movie out and hope it hits somewhere.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
You know what's crazy now too, is that, you know,
I'm from a time where you used to have to
watch like a show one episode per week, and you'd
be like stay tuned next week for the you know,
the finale or the conclusion part two. And it's like nowadays,
you're gonna get a new TV show. It's gonna have
ten one hour long episodes, you know, and it's like
(16:40):
it's a ten hour movie basically, And you know, the
whole binge watching thing is like this new thing, and
there goes your day. You know, if that's what you're
gonna do, what else you're gonna do in a day?
If you're watching ten hours at the TV show.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. I'm I think
it's dying because like, like like I said, everything else
is switch to weekly, like event TV is kind of
it's not the same as it as it was, you know,
for sure, I don't think it's ever going to be
the same because of just how things are nowadays. But
I mean there's there's a lot more shows that are like, Nope,
(17:15):
we're just doing weekly and and deal with it.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
Yeah, that's how the New Dester kind of rolled out
that way too, and Squid Games too that they're doing
like little clusters. So it's like you get just get like,
you know, your mouth water and the then they're like,
hold up, you gotta wait two weeks and everybody's like
building anticipation is important because then you really like I
don't know about you, but when I when I watch
something that I'm really like interested in, if it's super intense,
(17:42):
like I'll watch it and then I'll think about it
for like several hours afterwards, like damn, you like my
wife and I just rewatched Better Call Soul, and I'm
like so entrenched in the storyline that it's like an
episode ends and we're like, damn, you know what, We'll
like eat dinner, watch one and then like, well, I'm
washing the dishes. I'm thinking to myself like damn, how
(18:04):
how did Jimmy get himself into that situation? And it's
like total not real, fictional character, and I'm thinking about it,
like Damn, that sucks that, you know, you know, Kim
got fired from her job and it's just so weird,
you know. But I think that there's a testament to
like a good show. You should be able to take
it with you and it should like affect you and
you know, I don't know, make an impressions.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
My favorite thing is when like I go to a
movie with a group of friends or something, is like
the drive home.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Talking about the movie yeah, because I still wasn't and
it's like fresh and everybody's like, oh, you remember this
part when they said that, Yeah, I think that's cool.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You know, it's the best. I love Better Call Sauwyeah
so much. Stain movie hot take. I think it might
be better than Breaking Bad, even by like the tiniest
amount there's I don't know I watched it. I think
I went through and just after it was all out,
I just went through and watched all of it at once,
kind of like binge washed it over like a few months.
(19:00):
And I also the same thing, I got sucked in,
and I did not think I would get sucked in
at all.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
It's super cool storyline, Yeah, yeah it does. That's very
like entrenching. It puts you there with them, and you
do have a hot take. I love both, but after
watching both now, I will say Breaking Bad got so
intense because it's such a like fantastical situation and like
(19:29):
something that normal people can't even fathom. At one point,
I literally was like about to have a panic attack
and I had to turn it off. That never happened
with Better Calls. Also for that reason, Breaking Bad for
me is just that little touch more because I was
just like, you know, it's just crazy when you put
these crazy situations into somebody like a regular person's life,
(19:50):
and it's just like they're right on that precipice of
getting caught, and there's all that anxiety and there's all
that stress, and it's just like that really conveyed it
well in that show, and I was like holding my
breath and when intense things were happening and I wouldn't
realize it, and then the scene would break and I'd
be like, you know, like that's the testament of a
really killer show. Good writing.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
Oh yeah, Vince Gilligan is one of the best ever ever.
I think a thing of What Better Call Saul is
why I think it has a little bit of a
leg up for me at least, is that it is
kind of like the close of the franchise, Like the
end of that show is really the end of the
Breaking Bad universe. Like it really like the last season
is like that the true epilogue two series.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
After the El Camino movie and everything. It's weird how
they rolled that out, and I feel like they kind
of rushed the last seasons. It's like there's just one
episode where it's like, I don't want to spoil it
for anybody, but I feel like they rushed it. And
then the epilogue was like the last three or four
episodes and you're supposed to stop at episode nine of
season six Better Call Saul, watch all of Breaking Bad,
(20:54):
El Camino, and then come back to the epilogue of
season six, which is you know, but it is cool.
It's like a nice closure, you know, the final chapter
of the book and you can finally like put it
to rest. Because breaking bad ends with so many questions.
You're like, what about this guy, this day, this day?
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, exactly, And I thought that was so beautiful how
because like spinoffs can be the same thing as we
were talking about, like sequels or reboots or whatever. They
can kind of just be like why is this? Why
did this get made? You know, like who needed this?
But I think now they're they're becoming kind of like
integral parts to the larger story of what it was
started in something else, and I think that's what makes
it engaging, and that's what makes it worth watching something,
(21:33):
because I think that's why I saw too. I was like,
they made a show about the sleazy lawyer, guy who cares,
and then I.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Kept seeing getting you like love him and you're like, oh,
he's just a little trickster, but then his tricks get
fucking more devious by the day, and it's like, wow,
you're actually a scumbag.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I mean yeah, and that's that's more like the the
best thing Vince Gilligan Diddy. I mean he did it
in Breaking Bad too, like Walter White is terrible.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Turn them into a monster dude, Yeah, awful.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
What kind of shows that like the monster was kind
of always there. It was just kind of like.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah for both of them too, for Saul and for Walter.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, and that's a great thing because you like feel
for these people that are terrible, and there's a lot
of shows that do that. Like obviously Sopranos is kind
of like one of the first ones where it's like
all these people are terrible, but you care and you
want to know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Yeah, exactly. My wife, My wife was like falling in love.
She's just like, oh, I want Jimmy to get away
with it. And it's like he's the bad guy, like
he's fucking these people over, like you like, he's scamming everybody,
and like she's like, oh, I just you know, I
just I want him to get away with it. It's like, okay,
I mean, so did I to be fair, I'm just like,
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oh God, what's gonna happen in And you know, because
you see Breaking Bad and it's like, well, he doesn't
he survives this situation. So how does he get out
of it? It's super fun. I think it's a really
killer show. We got stuck on it, that's how That's
how cool it is. We've been talking about Vince Gilligan
shows for like ten minutes now.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's a testament. He's fresh in
my mind too, because I get screeners for TV series
to review them, and I have the new Vince Gilligan show.
I can't talk about it, but it's cool to see
Vince Gilligan still doing the thing. Yeah, that's all say.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
About I'll be there, dude. Yeah, he's great. I think
he's one of the great writers of the last little
generation here.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Harvecent totally agreed. Yeah, so you were talking a little
bit about the new Spinal Tap and the old Spinal
Tap and better call Saul. What else have you been watching?
And it doesn't have to be like recently, It could
be like this year as a whole. Is there any
new stuff you've been super into, any old stuff you're
in revisiting and falling back in love with, or I
love old stuff that you loved when you were younger,
(23:51):
then you revisit and you and it didn't hit the
same anything like.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
That or h it's different and it's better because now
you understand what's happening. Maybe you watch this kid and
you're like, oh, I missed that part.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
YEP.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
To be honest, my wife and I have just been
chewing through like Netflix stuff. She'll just find it and
just we'll like watch it while we're cooking or something
and eating dinner. You know what I really like that
that train Wrecked series on Netflix where they talk about
like all of the shit that's gone like horribly wrong,
like that cruise that broke down in the middle of
the ocean and they had to like survive for a
(24:24):
week and a half with no power and no like
running water and food and they were getting like the
helicoptered in food that was crazy. Or the or the
one I forget what it was, Unknown Caller. Did you
hear read that or watch that one?
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Is that the Cats one?
Speaker 2 (24:39):
I don't know if you could say. It's the one
that about the kids that are in like high school
and this and this one girl keeps getting like incredibly harassed.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
That's the one.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
I don't want to give any spoilers, but the Unknown
Caller was fucked up, dude.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Yeah, oh yeah, it's called Unknown Number of the High
School Catfish.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
That's why I said, there you go, There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I knew it was like a really weird long name,
but yeah, I watched that severely fucked.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
Up, super fun.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Yeah, Like I was like what.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Yeah, yeah, when you find out, Yeah, you find out
and then it's like oh, ship, well you know you
know who it is. But then there's still forty five
minutes more of like the show left, and it's like,
what is going to happen here?
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah? The way that The only thing I didn't like
about that is the way some of the interviews like
spun questions to the kids. I felt like it was
a little manipulative, and I didn't really like.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
That the parents too.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, but that was a wild question, like.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh, maybe it's this person, and then the next person
will come in here and be like, oh, it's definitely them,
and then new information comes in and you're like, well,
now maybe it's this person, and then when they find out,
you're just like that wasn't any of those people? The
mind fuck? I love a good mind fuck you know toes.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Yeah, I love things that will surprise you and shock you.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yeah, my wife watches a lot of like television from
Chile and Spanish and stuff, and I can't remember the name. Yeah,
not telemundough, but like, yeah, we watch a lot of
like Chilean culture shows and I can't remember the names
off the top of my head. But between all those
different ones, we've been, you know, keeping pretty occupied with those.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Very fair. Is there any any recent movie trips that
have been memorable for you other than Spinal Tap?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Obviously, Spinal Tap is the only one. Like, I don't
think I've laughed out hard in a long time, you know.
And it was cool to watch it with these guys
because they love it, and it's cool to watch it
with a band because it's about a band, and it's
so painfully accurate that we're all just looking at each
other like yep, well look what's next. Oh yeah, you know,
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like you know there's a problem with the catering. Yeah cool, awesome,
you know, like technical issues, you know, logistical issues, like
we've all lived that it and it just hits so
much harder when you're watching it with the band that
you're in, because you're like, well, here we go, boys,
this is life we chose, and it's all gonna happen
everything we're watching right now is going to happen and
(27:06):
over the next three weeks, cuz get to get Yeah.
For all everybody that's watching, my advice to you is
get together with your band and have like a band movie.
And I watch both of the spinal taps and you'll
all it'll be a team building exercise.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
That's a really good idea. I think something similar that
it's like, it's in that similar vein. I watched the
New Naked Gun movie a few weeks ago. Nice yeah,
which is I remember watching the trailer and obviously, like
Liam Neeson has been on this like weird kick for
the last ten years where he's just in basically Taken
but bad for ten years, just different narrations of Taken,
(27:47):
just as terrible movies. And when they announced this, I
was like, huh, that's interesting, Okay, weird And I watch
the trailer and I'm like, I don't know if this
is gonna be for me, and I didn't watch it
was in theaters even though I got I got like
rave reviews. I think it did pretty well in the
box office and everything like that, which is very rare
for in twenty twenty five for an R rated reboot
(28:08):
comedy to do well in the box office, right, And
I had a few friends over and we were like,
you know, like going through the movies, like oh yea,
let's just time watch a movie. And then I was like, hey,
I haven't seen this, and none of us saw it,
so we're like, okay, let's just pop it on and
it It is honestly hilarious. It's awesome, very I don't
watch that. It's very stupid, but like purpose it was
(28:30):
supposed to be, and some of the bits don't land,
but some of the bits really landed, and it's just
a funny, dumb, like great, turn your brain off, have
some laughs with some friends kind of movie. I would
definitely recommend watching it like that. That that'd be a
good like tour movie to boot up with with the
rest of the dudes and and just sit there and
laugh at how absurd and silly it is. And honestly
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have some pretty awesome choreograph fights sequences, which is like
felt so unneeded but awesome at the same time.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It was.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
It was great. Ian Wilson is great, Pamela Anderson's in
it also. It's just really funny and it's good to
watch a movie that doesn't take itself seriously at all.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Sometimes yeah, yeah, we need a good laugh, and like
Liam Neeson has always been great at that, So you
have certainly piqued my interests.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Very cool I did. A few days ago. I went
and saw there's a new horror movie in theaters called
Shelby Oaks. And before I talk about the movie, it's
important to talk about the creator of this movie, because
it was made by this guy, Chris Stuckman. He is
a film critic YouTuber and he has been for like years.
He's kind of like one of the og film critic
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YouTube guys, and it has like a really really big following.
And his goal was to always create movies and then
he finally had an idea and wanted to do it.
He made a Kickstarter because obviously making movies are ungodly expensive,
even low budget movies are still you know, hundreds and
thousands of dollars. So he started like a Kickstarter goal
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for two or fifty thousand, and he raised like almost
one point four million. Honestly, I think it's like one
of the most successful kickstarters like ever, and he was
like shocked, blown away, and then eventually he put like
a cut together because he was just gonna make this
movie put on his YouTube channel. That was his goal.
He just wanted to make this movie. And then it
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got wind of Mike Flanagan, who has created some of
the best Netflix horror series there is.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Yeh.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
He made Doctor Sleep, the Stephen King adaptation. He did
the Life of Chuck, which is another Stephen King adaptation.
He just wrapped a Carry series as well. Incredible writer, filmmaker,
TV series maker. He got wind of it and attached
himself to be an executive producer of the movie, and
then got Neon to distribute the movie. So movie that
(30:47):
was just planning to be on a YouTube channel now
gets a wide theatrical release, which is man himiself is
super super cool.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
And what is it called again, Shelby Oaks.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Oh yeah, it takes place in Ohio and yeah, you're right,
you're all right. The basic premise is that there is
this this group of four people and they have a
YouTube channel called the Paranormal Paranoids and it's kind of
like like ghost Hunters or whatever, you know, where they
go and investigate these paranormal things, and that they have
(31:23):
a YouTube channel about it. But one day the four
go missing, and the story kind of takes place twelve
years after the disappearance, where the sister of one of
the group it still believes that she's out there and
alive and she hasn't given up on finding her sister
wherever she may be. And it's it's this really cool
(31:44):
mix of like found footage, because the whole thing starts
off like like a documentary, like a true crime documentary,
and that's how the movie starts and kind of gives
you the lay of the land of what it is,
and that in itself was super immersive and it really
sucks you right into the story of being like, Okay,
this is what happened, this is what's going on. Here
we go. There's definitely I don't think I loved the ending,
(32:05):
which is fine. It happens, yeah, And it's hard too,
because it's like when something becomes like supernatural or any
kind of like that in horror, that can either land
or not land. So but for an original horror movie
created by a guy who is a YouTuber, insanely impressive,
Like the movie looks amazing, it has a great score,
it has like really dope atmosphere. It is actually genuinely creepy.
(32:30):
There's definitely points where I was like, damn, this is
like really creepy. A few the jump scares got me,
which jump shares can be cheap cheap gets, you know
all the time, but these are effective ones in this one,
for sure. But I can't wait to see what this
guy does past this, because I think this year has
been a really good year for original movies, especially original
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horror movies. But it's so cool to see someone come
from like that background like that, create this idea, get
it made, make it happen, and and and I think
I think it already made its budget back in its
opening weekend, which is.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
In theaters.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, I just released out in theaters last weekend, so
it's really new. But that's a high recommend if you're
a horror fan. Definitely, Definitely it has some blair Witch vibes. Obviously,
it's not all found footage, so it's not totally that,
but there's definitely parts that remind me of blair Witch.
There's parts that remind me of Hereditary.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
Oh, that's one of the scariest movies.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
I agree.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, Okay, you already got them. You convinced me.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
Say those It's not as good as those, but it
is still very very good. I try to type of
expectation that I guess, but it is. It's a super
solid movie. And I just implore anyone who is a
horror fan to go seek out this movie whiles in
theaters and support movies like that. So more movies like
that happened, because I feel like so many people complain
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that there's not original movies or media out there, and
then there's so many options to go support that and
they don't, and they just complained about it not existing
when it does exist. So you gotta go support this.
So definitely go check out Shelby Ou because it's super
super awesome, awesome movie.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
The time of the year for a good horror movie too.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
It's perfect perfect. The Black Phone two is out, and
I really want to check that out too, because I
really like the first one and the second one looks
really cool and I've heard good things about it. So
that's another one. I'm going to check out.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
Easton hog Kit as like like a scary dude, a murderer. Yeah,
kind of crazy to picture him as that role. I
haven't seen it yet, but I did go to Halloween
Horror Nights and there was a lot of black Phone
stuff all over the place, so that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Yeah, he's awesome in it too, because the first movie
it's he's there is the supernatural element, but it's it's
kind of at arm's length, and I know the second
one really dives into that supernatural element. Not to give
anything away that happens in the first or or the second,
but he is great in it, and like, like that's
why I thought too. I remember when the first movie
came out. I was like, I was like, Ethan Hawk
(35:00):
is kind of like a slasher.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
Villain, right, yeah, because we're like from the nineties and stuff,
and it's just hard to picture him as like a serious,
like scary role. But if it hits, I mean that
good for him. And maybe he has that you know,
tool under his belt.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
So yeah, he's he's great. I can't Yeah, he's awesome.
And every time I hear him an interview, he seems
like such a down to earth like dude. It's it's
kind of wild.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Chad said he watched a Black Phone one and he
couldn't stop thinking about reality bites, which is crazy. Yeah
have you seen that movie? Yeah? See Chad's asking how
old are.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
You have thirty five?
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Thirty five?
Speaker 3 (35:36):
Yeah, this is what yeah, well, yeah, nineteen ninety four, it's.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
I know, yeah, yeah, he said that that's like a
perfect coming of age movie to see for like in
the nineties. Yeah, and that's like the Ethan Hawk that
I picture when I think and now he's like a
slasher guy, which is crazy, but I mean, if it hits,
it hit, how you doing. Yeah, man, fucking Ethan Hawk.
Speaker 6 (36:02):
I know him from Reality Bites and a bunch of
other nineties stuff, and he was like a slacker, kind
of like a.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Stoner gun cool, the cool kind of guy in the nineties.
Speaker 6 (36:10):
But when I watch Black Phone, honestly, that's all like
everything about his voice and every I can, I can
see his face. So if you don't really recognize him
from a movie, the whole time, I'm just thinking about
this dude from Reality Bites, which is a great role
that he played. So check that one out and then
might be you'll never be able to watch Black Phone
if you.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
I guess that. The one thing that I remember him
from the most, I think is Training Day now that
now that I look it up, because I forget that guy. Yeah,
and he kind of disappears into it.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Well, check out reality bites.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
I will check out reality.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
Yeah, it's funny because, yeah, that role is like the
quintessential like cool guy, you know, and maybe hey, maybe
it's in the same universe and maybe you know, turns
not so cool and so he gets hurt and now
he's he's a black phone guy. Shit gets weird.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, he's called the grabber in it.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Oh that's sexy.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Well, when you find out what he's doing, it's not
that sexy. He does have a shirtless scene.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Though, Yeah, does he ever reveal his face?
Speaker 3 (37:15):
Yeah, you see his face in the first one a
little bit. Yeah. Interesting, he's like super he's like super pale.
He's like a I think he's a magician. And he
has this black with black balloons. It's it's creepy.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
That's creepy.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
He's creepy.
Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'll give it a shot. You talk to me.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
Similar to what you've been doing about better call Saul.
I've been doing with this show called The Morning Show.
It's on Apple TV. I talked about it a few
weeks ago of how I started watching it because it
stars Jennifer Aniston and Reese Witherspoon and it's about this
morning show that's kind of like Good Morning America. And
I kind of put it off because I thought it
was kind of going to be like and I love
(37:53):
rom coms, so nothing against rom coms or anything, like
like a dramedy kind of comedic, blight bubbly kind of show.
So yeah, drama, comedy, drama, yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
Yeah, I mean I get it, but I like a
good play on wheres.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
Yes, I didn't invent it, so I can't take her
I heard it first from you, Okay, then I'll take
credit for it. And so I put it off because
of that, and then eventually I was like, I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna start it. I love Appletitude, plus
almost every show they put out is incredible, so I'm
just I'm just gonna do it. And obviously I was like,
I grew up with friends, so Jennifer Aniston, you know,
(38:27):
everything like that. So I was like, okay, let me
check it out. And what I explained before is it
is such a dark show, like insanely dark, because it's
rooted very much in like real dark things that happened,
Like the show opens. Steve Carell is also in it
for the first couple of seasons and he was Jennifer
Anson's co host in the Morning Show and it starts
(38:50):
off with him getting me too for sexual art and
that kind of like drive. Yes, yeah, yeah. Steve Carell
has been in some like very awesome, serious roles.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I like him, man, I think he's cool. It's just
imagine a world, real world where Steve Carell gets canceled.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
I think that's also adds to it because like everyone
is right, you know who Steve Carrell is, you know, yeah, exactly,
And that's how he's played in this series too, where
he's like everyone loved him, everyone loved work with them,
you know, he was he was he was like the
guy you know, he was like the morning show TV
co host, you know, and then you find out the
dark truth about him and what he did. Very very cool.
(39:30):
And each season there's a time jump too, and they
and they make you kind of catch up where everything is.
And I always love stuff like that. I love that.
That to me, that sucks you in more because you're
already familiar with these people who are like, oh, they're
in a different point in their life, what has happened
since then? And they fill you in with that stuff.
And it's honest fourth season that's currently airing now, and
I'm just amazed with how they continue to put out constant,
(39:56):
creative and awesome dramatic television. I mean, I'm in awe
of it. I kind of described it as a mix
of like House House of Cards and Succession, and it
really does feel like that. And the creator was like
a producer on House of Cards, so it adds up.
I was like, where where did these people come from
that created the show and then went and research and
found that out? But what a great show. Aaron Pierre
(40:19):
is in this new season who he became kind of
famous through this Netflix movie of Rebel Ridge that came
out last year. It was like this action Netflix movie
that's actually very very good and he's the star of it.
And now he's going to be one of the Green
Lanterns and the upcoming DC Green Lantern show. His star
is rising and I'm stoked he's in it. Greta Lee
is in it, who was in Past Lives and the
(40:41):
Neutron movie. She's incredible and seeing Jennifer Andison because even
after Friends, she's kind of more known for like comedies
or rom coms or stuffing like that.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, she really like came into her own I think
in the last decade of what she's been working on.
Speaker 3 (40:58):
And seeing her like tackle this really complicated dramatic role
is so cool because I feel like it's like a
side we really haven't seen of her fully and it's
it's really cool to see her like flex her acting
chops because Reese Witherspoon, you've seen her acting serious stuff
Like obviously she's like most known for like Legally Blonde
and stuff like that, but she's been in serious movies
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and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
He said, you said Reese Witherspoon, and he's like, yeah,
you've never really seen her without her spoon, have you.
That's all day with him, Dude, all day. He just
walks past and drops the gem right on it. That's
a talent. Yeah, it is. It's true, truly talent he has.
It took me a second. I was like, what did
he say?
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh my god, those are the best two where your
first you're thrown off and then that's all day. Damn,
that's a talent. He's just a stand up.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yeah, imagine you did bring.
Speaker 3 (41:48):
Up Hollywood hornete. So I want to end on you.
What was your favorite part I haven't been Hollywood horneted
in a few years, so I'm a little out of
the loop. But what was your favorite house there that you.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Would It was really heavy with the terror Fire universe,
and I'm not like up to speed on it. But
we actually my wife and I and a bunch of
our buddies from LA. I'm from Tampa, so I've been
to the one in Orlando twenty times. This is the
first time I ever went to one in LA. And
the guys from in Flames were actually in town that
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weekend too, and so we got like a big group
together and we all went and it was super fucking
fun because I am, like, I get scared so fucking easy,
but I love it. And like my wife is like
a little Chile and you know girls, she was like
I would walk in front and she would have her
arms around me and like, you know, yeah, it's scary,
jump scared, cool, I know it's coming. But like what
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was really scaring me was that she would she would
get scared and like a and like squeezed my torso
off and dude and I and then I'd be like ah,
and I was like double scared. And then the guys
in her flants were fucking cracking up, dude. They were
just like laughing at me the whole time. It was
it was fucking it was. But the Terrifier was really cool.
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There was a Fallout one which I thought was kind
of cool. I'm a big Fallout fan. It wasn't as scary,
but it was cool to like literally walk through a vault,
you know, and like it was a vault, duh. It
was sick. It was really cool. I played the I
played fall Out three, I played Fallout four for hundreds
of hours, and then I loved the TV show. I
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thought the TV show was super true to form and
very like lore accurate, and I think they did a
really good job. It wasn't like, you know, obviously it
Fallout is not a horror movie, but it's dark, you know,
it's dark, And they pulled a lot of really cool
references from the show and from the game that I
got that if you weren't as familiar with the lore,
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maybe you didn't get it. And everybody else was like, yeah,
I don't really get that one, but me, I was like, oh, yeah,
it's sick. You know. They had the jumpsuits and everything,
and they had the robot that was like you know, destroyed,
and you got to walk through like the super duper
mart and it was all It was just really immersive.
It really felt like a post apocalyptic world. And then
there was another one. I don't remember what it was.
(44:05):
I think it might have been what's that one? The Purge.
The Purge world was crazy, bro. They had an old
decommissioned airplane that had I don't know, they must have
like actually crashed it. They must have actually flown it,
crashed it, and then transported it to the Halloween Hornites.
(44:25):
It's been there forever. I guess it's like kind of
a staple and they build around it. But you get
to walk like next to like a crash airplane, like
a full blown possibly. It was scary, dude. People freak out,
I could see, but like for me, everybody hates fucking flying,
but like to walk next to one like in that
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grade of detail, and you know there's people like you
know trying like the Gangs of the Purgers kind of
trying to scare it. It was crazy, dude. They really
do a great job of like immersing the audience in
like whatever universe they're trying to showcase which I thought.
I thought it was killer. You know, Halloween Ornights in
LA was sick.
Speaker 3 (45:04):
Yeah, I've only been to the one in Florida because
usually we'll like tack it on if we do it,
because we like to go vacation. We'll go to a
Universal and Disney and uh and sometimes we'll tack on
the Hollywood Hornies and stuff too. My wife is the
same exact way, because I'll always be wearing like a
backpack or something, and she'll be like holding onto the
backpack for dear life, like two inches behind me, and.
Speaker 2 (45:28):
Yep, it just amplifies it, like, yeah, yeah, I'm scared.
You know, I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
I'm like, I know this feeling also, well.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
Yeah, Halloween or PPSD.
Speaker 3 (45:40):
Yeah, because I mean that's what the houses are predicated on.
Jump scares, Like that's all they are. They're all just
jump scares. But but they build the tension because a
jump secker is gonna get almost every time because you
can't help being surprised by something, even if you see
it coming. It's the shock of it happening that.
Speaker 2 (45:55):
You're like they're always projecting like sounds of other people screaming,
which I don't remember there's just constantly like there's a
tape in the background of just like people like with
like grotesque screams, like terrified, and that kind of puts
you on edge. And then like they do this thing
I think where they have like like a sheet of
aluminum that they stomp on. So it's like it's not
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like they're just jumping out at you, because that, you know,
only goes so far, but like the percussiveness and the
sharp sound and like the flashing strobe, it's like like
I know, Okay, I'm gonna turn the corner. It's real
dark in here. I wonder what's gonna happen. There's four doors,
h two people jump out of two of them, like yeah,
but like with all those other added elements, it's like
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that's how they get it, you know.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
Yeah. Every time. The creepiest one I did, they had
an US house, like right after US came out of
the Jordan Peele movie, and there was one where it
was a room and you know how they they mix
in like actors with like pretty good like a mannequins
and profits, and there was one where it was an
empty room and I think it's like the locker room
from when you go in the basement in the movie, Yeah,
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and someone sitting with the back facing and I was like, oh,
that's a mannequin, and then it slowly turned around. I
was like, Oh my god, that's so creepy. And then
the end is all the people in the red jumpsuits
and they're mixed with people and like mannequins and you
can't tell. And there's just like so two lines of it,
and you're going down the middle and you're just like, oh,
and that's the end of it. You're just like, oh
(47:23):
my god, Oh my god. Yeah, it was so good.
Speaker 2 (47:25):
Yeah, that's a great movie. I think Jordan Peele's done
a really great job with all of his horror. I
want to see that one that he just did. I
don't know if it's out yet or it's coming out soon,
but him, have you heard of that one?
Speaker 5 (47:39):
There?
Speaker 3 (47:39):
I know he produced it. He didn't like direct it
or write it or anything. He's like attached to the
name and I've heard mixed things, but I still want
to see it.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
I want to see it too because I'm a big
football fan and I think it's pretty crazy. It's like
a football player that sells his soul to the Devil
to Win. It looked pretty cool and the trailers I
saw and they're promoting it really hard all around LA
so kind of piqued my interest a bit. And I
love Jordan Peele, so I like what he's done. I
like what he did with the Twilight Zone. I love it. Actually,
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he really did a great job with that.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Yeah, he's awesome. He's so so.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Cool, and I love and Peel. Dude, that's some of
the funniest shit. Like, dude, I could quote that all day.
Speaker 3 (48:18):
The one that always sticks in my mind forever is
the bitch one, And I.
Speaker 2 (48:24):
Said, what was nothing? I like the one where they're
a cat calling. That probably my favorite one ever. When
they're like southern like cat calling and he's like, miss Daisy,
you smell like a fresh rain and just as refreshing
or whatever, and he's like that ass though I can't
(48:45):
go much further than that on this podcast, I'm sure,
because it's he says some quite non savory things, but
fuck dude that they are so funny.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
Dude, so funny, and it's so cool to see them
kind of both flourishing their own things, you know. I
obviously Jordan Peele is is what. Keiko mcinckee is still
doing the acting thing and a ton of stuff. He's everywhere.
You see him just pop up in the most random things.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
Right, Oh yeah, there is hardness see him do anything
serious because it's you know, like yeah, kind of like
like eric Andre is the same way. You know, he's
starting to do a lot of acting and stuff. I
thought he was hilarious and what is it the Gemstones?
Oh Righteous jimsones Righteous Gemstones. Yeah, he's hilarious. Eric Andre
(49:26):
is a fucking nut.
Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah he's He is so funny. He was also involved
in a really good when Jackass did that movie a
few years ago, which honestly was absurdly hilarious. I could
not believe how funny he was seeing a Jackass movie.
How many years later it came out of a number
of years at this point, I think like five years,
maybe longer, but Jackass forever, I think is what it
was called. Great great watch. If you need a good laugh.
(49:49):
That's also another good laugh one. But he was in
that too, obviously has himself, everyone's themselves in it. He
was in that in this like crazy skit that I
think was a total joke on MGK, which was, which
is really funny.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
There you go. I liked it already.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
He's funny. He's funny. And yeah, go check out Jackass
Forever too. That's that's another good one. They were supposed
to bring back the TV show.
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh go ahead. How are you gonna have that in
twenty twenty five? Dude? That doesn't work the same, Dude.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
I thought the movie would be so stupid, and it
was insanely funny. I saw it in theaters with a
group of friends, and I could not believe how much
I was laughing. I could not believe it, like, seriously
could not believe how funny it was, and seeing how
old these guys are and the dumb shit they're still doing.
I mean, I think it ends with Gihann Oxwell going into.
Speaker 2 (50:37):
The hospital, so thank surprise.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah, he like broke his collarbone or something because he
rode like a fucking bowl or some shit. What the
fuck do you think it was gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Dude?
Speaker 3 (50:45):
You're like classic crazy, absolutely absolutely insane. But Mike, thank
you so much for doing this. Man, it was really
awesome chatting with you.
Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, man, good chatting with you. And I'm gonna check
out that what what was that horror movie you said
again from Shelby Oaks. I keep remembering Sherman Oaks because
that's a place in la that I Yeah, it's Shelby Oaks.
Speaker 3 (51:08):
Yeah, Chris Stuckman. Also, he's the guy who made it.
If you google him, a ton of stuffle coming. He's
obviously doing a lot of press for that right now too.
Before we get out of here, please let people know
what is going on where they can find you.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, we have a brand new single out. It's called
Can't Stop Running. It's everywhere you can listen to music.
There's a music video for Can't Stop Running. It's going
to be least on Halloween, so you definitely got to
check that out. We're about to hit the road in
the UK for the next three weeks, so if you're
watching them from the UK, get your asked to a
show and yeah next next up, we've got Australia in January,
(51:47):
and I guess I can say it now because it
just announced, but we'll see you at Sonic Temple in
Ohio in twenty twenty six, So see you guys there.
Speaker 3 (51:56):
Oh yeah, very awesome. I will link all the links
for Cky down below. If you live under Rock and
can't find them for some reason. If you want support
the podcast, you can go on milkernerds dot com. All
our links are right there in one easy place, and
if you want to follow me in my personal account,
it's just at Sean XM on Instagram and Twitter. Until
next time, See you later, nerds see it
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