Tim Comeau of Wind Walkers

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favorite bands as we explore their love of pop culture.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I'm MARYL Sean Matt and this week I'm joined by
Tim of Windwalkers. Welcome to show.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
Hey, thank you so much, appreciate you having me.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'm very very stoked to have you here. I'm very
honored that this is your first podcast appearance.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That makes me feel Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah. Normally we let Trevor handle the interviews. Obviously with
him being the vocalist, has a little bit more insight
as like the meaning, but as far as nerdy stuff goes,
I'm the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
You're in the right place.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, we're there.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
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in the pop culture talk, we're going off the show

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like we do every week, with the Metal Core Nerds
Song of the Week and the song Week this week
is from our guest.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
This is Windwalkers with Predita.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Sleep, staring up through the sea. We come from the
MUDs within the sweetson to bye the hand that was
feed in the hand of the god who wasn't enough.
He wasn't enough to cover the blood's hand of the healing,

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And who severed his love but keeps you in such
who kept your believing? Who said you weren't shrugging.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
I knew that you were, but I watched.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
You shave, shave, chase you. You saw the face?

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Is you still high?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Jo grisel? Wash you shange?

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh my god again.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I'm smuck, covered in not ss no sense and hide.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
And your summer.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
By the head of.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
A man who wasn't enough. He was never enough to
get him a lot, get in the family, send him
massage by the hand of a joy to catch on
a leaving a sach working. I love this show. I
washed you, shaved, shave.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
So your no.

Speaker 5 (03:48):
You saw sense still high? JOKERU wast suit swiss was
yourself and carrying it? Let me sell me your shot.

Speaker 4 (04:10):
No, it's nothing, I consume. There was nothing I could do,
write nothing, I could do nothing I could do second,
calling out and over here and back. Sometimes it seems

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you not.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
React, but there was nothing I could do. Tell me
what you know?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
The bow was just so cruelly lizards, it's every second voice,
and so I had it's nothing I could turn tell
me what you know? The bow was just so crawling.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Again.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
That was Windwalker's with Hereditary that is off their new
EP that is out now. It's been out for a
little over a month and a half. So if you
like what you heard there, and if you haven't listened
to the rest of the EP, I would say, go
listen to the rest of the EP. It's awesome, it's
super catchy and it's great. And you guys have a
very unique sound. I mean, obviously there's bands that like
you kind of sound like ish but even I hope

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you don't take this personally, but there's like a boy
band aspect to your band, so it feels like almost
like a metalcore boy band.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
There's a lot of cool influence in this EP.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
So I wanted to know if you had to sum
down like four of your biggest musical inspirations for the band,
what would you mean.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
I mean that, I think that's huge phrase. Honestly, like
we try to, you know, push ourselves, push boundaries as
far as genres and stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Go.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
So I'm listening for bands I think, you know, speaking
of we'd have to list like bring Me, bring Me
the Horizon, I think, you know, probably since sem Paternal,
every album feels like it's almost like a different vibe genre,
Like they're really so innovative, innovative, and like they pushed
so many different boundaries where you don't really know sonically

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what they're gonna come out with next. Like their Newest
City was like that whole emo you know, early two
thousands revival, and they've done like hyper pop, and they've
done you know, metal core, like they run the gambit.
So that's that's a band that we really like look
up to as far as just a band that can
like have so much success in so many different facets

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as far as like musically, it's a band that every
band aspires to be. Like I think when we really
started the band, the Rain City Drive was one that
I really looked up to. They're the first man that
really kind of had that like pop them and like
day Seeker I would say, really had that like that
super pop mainstream influence, but we're like incorporating it into
like metal, you know, alternative rock when we were like

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first starting the project and being like, oh, like what
do we want you know, this next run of you know,
a couple of our past to releases. This kind of
sound like like what if we like take the like
that boy band aspect of it and like you know,
kind of use like the alternative of the rock metal
music but like have those kind of vocals, like really

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powerful hooks and like vocal deliveries. So that was something
that like we really influenced us still to this day.
They're both very like incredible bands. I don't know, like
Chase Atlantic, it's a band that you know, yeah, okay,
they're they're super cool, like very very vocal driven, but
like their music is rock, but then you know it's

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kind of has like an ed M aspect to it.
They like dive into like that hyper pop kind of
thing too. It's funny if you like ask any other
band members, they'd give you like probably four different bands.
But but like because like like our bass player loves
like Go Jeer and Slayer, like we all kind of
grew up with like that classical rock and like metalcore

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in the early two thousands, so like it's been a
whole like I don't know, it's it's helped that we've
kind of like you know, dive into like so many
different genres and like we I mean, I love you know,
Billie Eilish and Justin Bieber in the Weekend and like
those you know, really pop influenced bands have had like
a big impact on me and Trevor in particular when

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it comes to like writing music. So yeah, I just
I've definitely listened more than four bands. But like we
try to always is one up ourselves. There's not one up,
just like try something different, whether it's like punk influence
or pop or rock or indie or like it makes
it interesting, you know. So like we're you know, kind
of taking all those inspirations at any given point.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
So I guess the best way to do it to
make things that aren't like I wouldn't say new, because
like you said, like there's bands like they see here,
bands like Racer Drive.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
But like I can tell the difference between you.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Guys easily, you know what I mean, Like vocal delivery
is different, kind of like there's some like there's like
some weird like almost like eight bit video game influence,
like sonically stuff in there that was like Oh, okay, cool.
So it's cool that you guys take all this infla.
I mean, it's it pays off for sure, because you
can tell you're like, like, what kind of like the

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sonical the sonic journey that the EP brings you on
is really cool and I really appreciate what it does.
You know, it's and it's hard because you know, there's
so much music out there and a lot of bands
end up sounding the same or trying to do the
same thing or whatever. And good on you for trying
to pack a lot of stuff in there and stand out.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Let's appreciate it. Must be doing something right.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Yeah, I would say so. So you said you're the
nerd of the nerd of the band. So I want
to get into the beginning. What started this off for you?

Speaker 1 (10:16):
I know that you play some video games, You're into
some kind of like magic, the gathering and D and
D and stuff like.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
That, So like, what was the thing that got you
into all that stuff in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
That's a great question. I don't like, I was super
super an anime too growing up. Like it's funny, it
was it was so taboo back in the day to
say you're in an anime. But now it's like having
a revival. It's cool to say. I'm not not ashamed
of it anymore, But I like, I love like kind
of like fantasy driven like like I never really like

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like Grand Theft Auto. I'd rather play like Legend as Alda,
like those kind of like high fantasy sort of aesthetics.
I guess it's funny. My dad had like an old
like Supernintendo, and apparently he would play Zelda with me
and my brother when we were kids, and like we
were probably like two or three, you know, like very
very early on. But I don't know, maybe that like

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stuck with us to the point where like we just
love that throughout our whole lives. But growing up and
like watching like Pokemon and like Dragon ball Z coming
home from school and like watching those kind of those animates,
like you'd rush home just to like make sure you
didn't miss, you know, the newest episode or else you'd
be like completely lost. This was before like streaming where

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you just you know, watch everything chronically, like back to back,
like if you missed an episode, you were just like
what happened sometimes, So yeah, that was probably like early on,
and like Tsunami was like a big one. It started
at like eleven o'clock at night. And like when you're
in you know, middle school or high school, you want
to talk about like getting lost, but like there's so

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many cool like cartoons like animes and stuff like that
that really kind of like it's funny that you bring
up like the ape. It kind of like news newest
kind of song like Silk and Static is the new ones.
Like I think it's super heavily anime intro, video game influence,
like kind of incorporating those like hyper pop elements. It's
just like, so my brother's the other guitar player, and

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like it's both of our dreams to have one of
our songs be like the intro to an anime, because
they those songs always slap like they're always like so
energetic and like you have, you know, motions of like
the main characters like fighting or like flying around, and
like it'd be super cool to write music like that.
So that's kind of what we sort of did with

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like that last song. And from there it's kind of like,
you know, I love video games, Legend Iselda, like Final Fantasies,
all those games are like ones that I just kind
of like gravitated towards growing up, and like I feel
like the natural progression is to go and like, oh
like magic gathering, Like those are those on cards? It
looks really cool aesthetically, and then you learn the game.
It's just like this is dope. It's like cool puzzle

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games and like strategy, and then you know, you kind
of even go further from there. You find a group
that's like interested in Dungeon and dragons, and it's kind
of like a live action video game where it's just
it's a natural progression. It feels like anything nerdy. I
I feel like I gravitate towards at least in like
those kind of aspects.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Have you been Have you played the Magic or D
and D while on tour?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
But Magic, for sure, D and D is a little tricky.
We've thought about like putting together like a group with
like I know, I'm the only one in the band
who's played like a campaign. They've all played like Bolder Skate,
so I feel like they'd kind of like hop into it,
you know, easy enough. But we have a pretty small
crew at this point, so it'd be kind of hard

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to get in like a solid session, right, But maybe
at the point where like you know, we got a
driver and like you know, a bus and like the
space to do it and like you know, text and
stuff like that to help set our stuff up. We'd
probably that would be sick. It's a great way to
pass time, especially if you like, if you have a

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really tight knit group, you know, people you're comfortable with
and you can like joke around. That's when I feel
like the games get really really good. So that would
be sick. But magine the Gathering. It's a little easier.
You can kind of have like one off games. They
take like you know, fifteen minutes sometimes just and you'd
be surprised how many how many other bands like love
Magic the Gathering. Like there's always someone on tour who

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has like a commander deck, and I'm just like it's
my whenever we start a tour, like I picked those
people out, I'm like, there's got to be someone here
who will play magic with me.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
I had Will from Dance Cam and Dance on like
a few months ago and he he loves Magic the
Gathering and he was talking.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
About how he would play it on. I mean he
he got into it through touring.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
He saw one of his TMS playing it and he's like,
what is this and he talked all about it and
got obsessed with it and he's like yeah, he's like
I've played like the home team, like we I always
find the pick off there on the tour to try
to get the game the games going.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, I would imagine D and D would be pretty hard,
but it would be really cool.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
And it is like it kind of like the worst
part about D and D is like scheduling just getting
you know, typically if you have people who work nine
to five and like you got to pick out one
day where everybody can meet up and like you know,
have the session for an hour or two, but like
one person cancels, so you just can't do it because
that person. Oh you could, but like that person misses

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out on like you know, potentially a lot that happens
where I feel like if if your band is doing it,
like you we're all together most of the time, Like
if it's a show day where you know, we're in
the same era, sometimes you get the venues and there's
not a whole lot to do, so it'd probably be.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Cool, especially if you know, load ins super early waiting. Yeah, yeah,
I guess find a coffee shop or something.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Yeah, and it's cool. It's like, it's cool if you're
in like you know, metropolitan, like a big city. But
sometimes some of these venues are there is nothing. You're
you're lucky to find a coffee shop.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
So yeah, that's a good idea, I know.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
The struggle.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
Yeah, I mean, hopefully you guys get there, and I
hope you guys get an anime interest song.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
That would be so I don't know who don't I.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
Don't know who we have got to get him at. Yeah,
they love.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
Music and stuff because it's like you see those interviews
come out all the time when they talk like a
band talks about anime and stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:28):
A ton of a ton of bands tour what is
it in Texas or something?

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Yeah yeah, yeah you did the thing we did in
the spring. Yeah, it got off. It got off to us,
and we're like, yes, absolutely. It was so funny. Like
so me and my brother like the big anime guys,
our vocalists to a certain extent too, but like there
are two of us who just they don't get it,
which is fine, you know, it's not for everybody. But
we brought them on the tour and we were like,

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there are these, you know, life size statues of like
your favorite characters, and we're just like, oh, who's you know,
who's this And it's like, oh, that's that's that's John.
It's just like Goku or something like that. Like they
just make up names for him and stuff like it
was almost as entertaining. Yeah yeah, no, yeah, no, Alex
over there, he's he's the man. He's he loves you know,

(17:15):
he loves so many different like genres music. You always
see him bringing Like it'll be like Knock Loose one
week and then like Chase Atlantic the next. It's just
like runs the gambit really of like but that's the
cool thing, like all these guys. Most bands have one
or two guys who like anime or something, you know,
some nerdy aspect you can always like, you know, you

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can almost bank on it.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I grew up with Dragon Ball Z and Tounami and
Hell Pokemon everything like that too, and they fell out
of it.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Not for I think it was just more more access
Like there was wasn't really a ton of like.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Us didn't really have access to that kind of stuff
like in the earlier like DBZ and like now or
like the last like five six years or whatever. And
then when my hero Academias already getting big. That's when
I got into it. Watching that and Demon Slayer and
the Big Ones. Attack On is my favorite.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
I love.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, you don't talk about killer anime intros like that
is yea yeah, yeah, that band's sick. I like it
is so funny too, because I'm like, oh, this is
this is dope, and then you like find those bands
because of it, like I've liked sim like Pail Dusk
is a sick one, Like Colt is a band from Japan.

(18:31):
We just played with that. They did one for Frontier Saga.
I think it is the name of it. It's just
like it's a band that I liked. And then I
was watching the anime and the song came out and
I'm like, this sounds really familiar, but I really like it.
I looked it up and it was just like I
don't know, I should have asked. I'm like who do
I talk to? Like like is it Sony Japan? Like
who do I gotta like send a letter to because

(18:54):
I would love to do that, you know, I think
it'd be it'd be cool, but we'll just have to
love it incorporated into our our songs. Maybe they get
picked up.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Yeah, we'll just manifest it here that it's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
Yeah, I need all the all the help.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
And then we'll look back on this when it does.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
We'll see this, they'll see this interview and they'll be like, oh,
I just you just had to ask, like you just
had It's really yeah, yeah, it's probably a label thing,
so I'm sure, but I'm sure.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, I'm sure I would.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
I would have the most amount of fun with that
because we're actually in the studio right now and just
kind of starting demoing out stuff. It's the very early
processes where like what do we want you know, what
do we want it to sound like? You know, it
could be you know, there's so many cool bands soon
cool sounds nowadays. But we're just like I always come

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back to the anime stuff and just like, let's try this.
Like our producers are super cool. I'll show them and
just like, oh, yes is a vibe, Like we'll see
what happens. But now it's it's been it's been cool
so far.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
Good good. I'm happy to that.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I hope stoke to hear new music when eventually I
know what you said early, so it's gonna be a
bit album. I hear something, but looking forward to it.
So what are you currently intwo? Whether it's anime, other
TV shows, other movies, Like what have you been watching
like this year recently?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
It's always a lot of anime, honestly, Like I did
just catch up with like Demon Slayer and JJK. I
like when seasons like that come out, like episode by episode,
I just let the whole thing like one piece is
one that's just like always kind of like that. I'll
take breaks, but then I'll be able to binge like
one hundred episodes back to back. Maybe not back to back,
that's a little that's a little much, but like consistently

(20:41):
over let's say a couple of months. Depends on how
long it is, but yeah, I let a couple of
those laps, like you know, Demon Slayer with the movie
coming out and stuff like that, JJK all all those
kind of good ones. I I watch them with my
girlfriend too, so it's one of those things where like
we have to watch them together. So if I'm on tour,
it's just like it gets pushed off like months sometimes

(21:02):
and like the whole season's out I'm trying to avoid spoilers,
and we're in the studio. Our producer had me watch
is it Plurbus? It's like a new show that just
came out. Did you see it? It's sick.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I've seen so, I've seen seven of nine episodes.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I got him early, Oh no way, and I got
to review it and I I love that series. One
cool Vince Skilligan guy breaking Bad. Yeah, yeah, love most
series to death. But to see him do something like
weird and sci fi. I know he like started on
the X Files, I think or something really, so he
he has like a background in weirdo sci fi. But

(21:39):
seeing Apple just fully embrace this crazy bonkers like normalized
sci fi with like this and Severance has been my favorite.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Yeah, he got me the Severance too, and that that's
right down his alley. He really loves like the sci fi.
But we watched the first three episodes I think are
out at this point, and it's it's very good. It's
it's it's it's cool, it's it's a unique twist on
like the whole I don't give too much away, but
like the whole, like alien, you know, I have mine
kind of stuff. But I'm enjoying that a lot. Honestly,

(22:11):
I watched a ton of movies. We just went to
Japan recently, so I watched like probably ten movies on
the flight. I can't sleep on flight, so I'm just like,
movies are the best way to kill a big chunk
of hours. Oh yeah, a lot of them are bad,
so I won't bring them up. But Sinners was cool.
I haven't seen Sinners. Yeah, that was like really cool,

(22:31):
like Tarantino vibes, and like, I like, I like that
one a lot. I'm trying to think if any of
the other ones were like noteworthy really like it was.
The Death of a Uni was a trip.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah. I saw that in theaters and it was like
cool but not amazing. It was.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
There are a lot of good movies to watch on
an airplane when you're you know, stuck in a box,
Like it kind of validates a lot of them. But
I heard the NUW Frankenstein's really good. I want to
see that.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
I did. I was lucky enough to see that in theaters.
It was in theaters for like two weeks or something
like that.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
I live in a pretty small city in upstate New York,
so when I saw it was on my theater listing.
I was like, because Netflix is so limited, it's usually
only big cities and that's it. But this one, the
spread was wider and it was out longer than usual,
And I think that was a Gilmant detro thing where
he's like, I want to want people in theaters as

(23:28):
I can. It's a beautiful movie.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I loved it.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
I just thought some and I need to preface this
with I love long movies and I love slows, but
some parts of this movie definitely could have been.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Sped up a little bit in my opinion. I know
some people don't share that same opinion, but I still
think it's really good.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
Jacob Loordi, who plays the creature, is unreal and I
hope he gets nominated for an Oscar for because he's
so good and he gets Obviously there's a lot of makeup,
percific makeup and everything on top of him stuff. But
the way that dude plays like, you know, like basically
a newborn creature and evolving into kind of a rage monster,
involving into what he becomes, you know, it's incredible. And

(24:11):
obviously the visuals are amazing, like it's it's not Nefflix
you know, if you can watch it whenever you want.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
So that's a that's a big recommend.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
It's it's not gonna I don't think it's gonna crack
my top ten or anything of the year, which I
know a lot of Again, I know a lot of
people will disagree with me, but I thought it was
very very very good watch, very nice.

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah, I'm excited. That's another. The girlfriend saw trailer portions.
We gotta watch that one. I'm like, okay, so it'll
be another probably three weeks before I see it, but
I'm looking forward to that one. We really like the
no Starratu like that cinematically was very cool. I don't
know if like similar vibes.

Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't really know very similar vibe.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
Yeah, if they'll be like, you know, necessarily like the same,
but I kind of got caught similarities between them. Yeah,
I don't know. Like I love movies, I just haven't
really been able to be a whole lot like in theaters.
I love going to the movie theaters. I wanted to
see that that weapons. I didn't end up seeing that,
which is a bomber. Yeah, you like, was it good?

Speaker 1 (25:09):
That's like my favorite movie the year that in ciner.
That's my like one and two weapons is well, did
you watch Barbaria? Did you see Barbarian? Yeah, I've seen
that one, same writer director that did Weapons. I feel
like it's because I know a lot of people can
kind of and I understand why the second half of
Barbarian people kind of like check out. For me, it
reminded me of like Cabin in the Woods, and I

(25:31):
loved it, Like started one movie, yeah, and then just
ends up being a totally different kind of movie. This
one is the same kind of movie throughout the whole thing,
and it's it's a little bit creepier, it's not really
I hate how people like create this weird thing with
like if a movie isn't quote unquote scary, that it's

(25:51):
not a horror movie because scary is subjective anyway. But
I like what the movie stands for, and it stands
for a lot of things kind of all at once.
And I know he wrote it from a place of
grief of losing a friend, and there's other kind of
very big analogies in it as well, And it's kind
of like a viewer's choice of like what you take
from the movie, rather than them telling you what the

(26:12):
movie is about which I really appreciated, and it's told
from different perspectives that all kind of lead to a
big finale. And I love nonlinear storytelling. So if you
get me with a non linear storytelling, I'm already half
in the bag. But then you you totally execute it
really well. Because I went to that, I think I well,
I know, he was very adamant of the marketing being

(26:35):
pretty vague of kind of only like the first trailer
is like basically the opening scene, it doesn't really give
anything away, and as you watch it, you're like, oh, okay, cool,
you know. The only thing you know is like these
kids disappeared one night and they're gone, Like that's that's
why are these kids gone? You know, And it's best.
That's all you know if you I hope you don't

(26:56):
know anymore than that, honestly.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, now that you're like, I have friends who've watched it,
and like it's been out for a while, so you
would think that like it'd be spoiled for me, but
I can't. I can't remember seeing anything like that gives
any of it away. Other than like the trailer, I
still have no idea, like I know the kids but like,
I don't know like the extent of it, other than
it's a good movie. It's worth the watch. So I'm

(27:19):
hoping I can get that. You guess some downtime coming up.
I got to catch up with all these Honestly.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
I'm glad that you don't know anything.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
That's the That's the best way to watch it, I
think is to watch it without really knowing and seriously
that the opening scene is.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's not like they build up to the kids disappearing.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
It's like the movie starts being like the kids disappeared,
and then the whole movie is like why did these
kids disappear? And then it goes through different perspectives and
in a really really cool way. I think Zach Kreugor
is an incredible talent. I'm down for whatever that dude
has to offer. Like, I'm just like, whatever you make, dude,
I will be there day one life.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
I've heard nothing but good things about it, So it's
definitely on my list. You got what else you got
for many is that you said that the Top three.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Too Weapons is my number one. Those are my top
two movies of the year. Those are those are some
of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I did you see Predator Badlands in theaters too.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Yeah. Our producer said he saw that like a week ago.
He said it was it was sick. There were mixed
reviews because it's someone was like a Predator like purist.
I guess it's it. I haven't seen it, so like
I can't really say, but like I saw Prey was awesome,
and I saw the animated one that got released. I
thought it was really good too, And it's the same
I think it's the same director who did this one,
like this new kind of trilogy, So I'm sure I'll

(28:34):
like it, for sure, I can. I can see how
it's like a different spin on your traditional Predator movies,
but like I think they're all good, you know.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (28:44):
The weird part of it is there's been a like
a vocal, very vocal minority of people who hate this
movie with never seeing it, and I can get some
people who it wasn't their thing. I just loved the
new spin of it, putting the Predator as the main character.
Almost the whole movie is spoke in Yacha, like made

(29:05):
up language. Yeah, the Predator speaks only in that, and
then another character gets involved that understands that language. And
it's kind of like the the audience point of view
in a way. The way they reference it is super cool.
And they add some more predator lore, which I think
Dan Trackenberger has been doing since Prey. He's been like

(29:26):
like especially the Killer of Killers, like that fact that
he like, I think it was obvious that we well
I don't know if it was obvious, but I don't
know if it was ever confirmed that that predator's time travel,
but they made it very clear that predators can time
travel wherever they want in that movie.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Was like, WHOA, that's kind of crazy what they think about.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, it blew my mind. And what what they do
with people who end up defeating a different.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Yeah, like whatever, and like yeah, I won't try to
throw in it, but it's sick, Like now you mentioned
it is cool like putting almost like you see like
their world. I'm sure, like I can't really think about
like I'm sure I've seen the first handful of like
the traditional predator movies, but they didn't really go into

(30:16):
like the lore other than there's multiple of them, but
you don't really see their world or you don't see
how they like you know, interact or train or like
have you know Arena type, you know, Colisseum games, like
it's all it's it's very cool. I do like where
like this guy's taking it. So I'm sure I'll love like.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
This, this newest one. It's really funny. And I know
that sounds super weird to say about.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
I mean, the first one's an eighties slockfest of like
the worst one liners you've ever heard in your life.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
So I don't know. I guess there's always been a
weird comedy element to some of these movies too.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
Yeah, but you know, like.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Pray is pretty serious. It's pretty serious, those killer of killers,
but this has it does make the Predator goofy though
he's not really the funny part. He's he plays the
straight man. And then el Fanning's character is kind of
the comedic relief and they explain why she's like that
and everything, so it's all Fields Field. Yeah, So I

(31:14):
can see why people didn't like that. It's the humor
does land for you. You're not gonna really like the movie,
and that's that's that's fine. But I went with a
group of friends and we all had like the time
of our lives. It was probably the funniest movie I've
seen in the theater. Like, I just had so much
fun watching it.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
It was great.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I'm kind of like, I'm kind of bummed that they
want to see it because like I don't get to
see movies a lot. So like if like our producer
is also front of house, like we'll be on tour
and it'll be like, let's go see a movie. I
think we saw we ended up seeing I forget the
name of it. It's like the Superhero movie, but it's like,
I don't know if it's Marvel. It's got the the

(31:52):
the she's blonde is a female protagonist Thunderbolts. Yes, yeah,
that's what we saw with forrenes p.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Yeah okay, yeah, yeah that was cool.

Speaker 3 (32:01):
Like it's a cool rift on like this whole Marvel
trope that I feel like, you know, a lot of
people are maybe kind of over at this point, but
it was worth the watch. I think it was. It
was it was cool.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yeah, I like that. That's probably my probably my favorite
Marvel movie to come out this year. And there's been three.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Yeah, what are the other? Like, I feel like I
haven't heard great Like Madam Webb was that one of them?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
That's that's Sony Marvel, it's not the same.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Okay, yeah, all right, comment exception though that like the bad.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Yeah, I think it's like a weird thing because I
don't know this. Obviously, the superhero genre has been such
a big thing over the last like ten years and
and and now it's there. Was all like those Venom
movies that weren't connected the MCU. But I person who
isn't like obsessed with this stuff just associated with and
they're like, oh, I heard Marvel's bad. It's like half
the movies that I thought were bad and connected weren't

(32:55):
even connected. And it's yeah, it's a weird thing. But
next year for Marvel is spider Man and Avengers, like
they're gonna be winning so hard it doesn't even matter,
you know. And this year was pretty good. They had
a Captain American movie that I thought was was decent.
I thought Thunderbolts was really good, but no one really
watched it. Yeah, and then Fantastic Four was was pretty good. Okay,

(33:16):
Fantastic four Live action movie, which I know isn't saying
much because.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Yeah, those was one it was not great. Yeah it's probably.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah the other ones, y, Yeah, they're pretty bad. They're
not great.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
It's funny when you think of like they kind of
like started Marvel started, was like just a handful of
like terrible movies and then just like for like actually
those old ones, forget about those those never happened. We're
gonna start fresh and like like the old like Hulk
movies and like that Fantastic Four and like Green Lantern.
I don't know Green Lantern, that's the DC, but like

(33:51):
all those old superhero movies that were like bad, They're like,
we're just gonna forget all those existed, like try over.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I am a big TV guy. You mentioned Pluribus, which obviously, well,
I'm kind of waiting. I rewatched the first two episodes
and I want to. I will probably start rewatching them
as more come out, so I'm not like lost when
the final two episodes. That's like the worst part about
getting some of these and this is like the biggest
first world problems ever, but like sometimes you get some
of them early and it's only a chunk, like I

(34:17):
got it Welcome to Dairy, and I like got five
out of eight episodes, So it's like I'm waiting.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
We're we're so we're caught up with Clavis and we're
like considering hopping to that we did. Like when we're
done like writing in the studio for the day, we
just like veg out and like watch movies and shows
and that's on our list.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Dude. It is brutal, it is really. The pilot is
so shocking.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
I'm not gonna give anything away because I want you
to be shocked by what they pull off. But it
is wild, Like I think it takes it way further
than the movies ever did, and I think the movies are.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Awesome, but like I think they they did a great
job with those.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
And the lore they add to, like the penny Wise
and the dairy of it all is so cool.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
Like the episode that just came out four is like
a big kind of lower dump and they play with
time a little bit too, where they're in nineteen sixty
two but they go.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Back in time and it's it's sick.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
And episode five that's coming out on Sunday is a
big one, so now is a good time to get
into it.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
To jump in and there's a there's a surf plus,
so I'm sure we will like catch up nice YEA. Yeah,
that one's one that we were like thinking about starting
so we'll probably start tonight. Honestly, yes, good.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
You'll have to keep me in the lip where you
feel about it. Yeah, that's been what I've been.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
If anyone's been like kind of on the fence about it,
I'm like, yeah, it's it's really really fucking good.

Speaker 3 (35:34):
I saw a clip online of like it was just
like a bunch of like monsters in the woods and
like what is this and it's yeah, and I'm like, oh,
like I just assume. I don't know, like the movies
are really cool, but like it doesn't really get any
I mean it's great, and like it was like like
watching the first and like they did a really good
job with these movies. But I saw that clip and

(35:55):
I'm like that what that You know, it seems it's
not out of left field, but like it makes sense
when you think about it. But it's just like wow,
like yeah, I'm excited to watch that now.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, so many people have kind of been complaining because
I feel like a lot of people forget or don't
know that it or penny Wise. Penny Wise is only
one form. He's a shape shifting demonic creature like basically
an alien. You know, it's like you see a ton
of different forms yea in this series, and that's one
of the biggest parts I loved about it because like

(36:27):
they push the boundaries of like what's weird. There's there's
stuff in the first episode where I'm like, how the
fuck did they think of this? This is so weird
and gross?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Like good for them, because it is awesome.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I mean, if you have like antagonists like that who
can beat anything, like, why not push the boundaries a little,
you know, like exactly, And it's supposed to be scariest,
you know, think of the scariest thing you could possibly
come up with. And I'm not if it scares you,
it'll scare a kid, Like that's the point of it.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Yeah, sure, it's it's it's awesome. So I'm looking forward
to see you guys.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
Yeah, yeah, that's that's on our list. So I'm gonna
push that one once a once we're done tonight.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
The biggest thing I've been watching recently, I've been kind
of just like plowing through TV shows, but yeah, Stranger
Things last season for in Things coming up, So I
rewatched the entire series.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Wow, good for you. That's a hall.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I was like, there's a four seasons, seasons, seasons, and
the four season is thirteen hours of wow a lot.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
That's yeah, should but I should do that because I
like I did. I did enjoy that a lot. But
it's been so long since I finished it that I
feel like I feel like I need to refresh and
I'm sure like give you like you know, yeah, yeah, recap,
but like, I feel like there's so much they did
a good job with us, like so much, like I mean,

(37:50):
like you said, different perspectives. I'm sure there'll be things
I forgot and I'm thinking back on it now. I
know there's things I'm like, I probably didn't pay attention
to her, like a second run through, would you know,
benefit me, because I'm looking forward to that one. It's
coming out soon, right.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Yeah, in a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, the first chunk, the first like four episodes drop
on Thanksgiving, and then Christmas is the second two I think,
and the finale is New Year's Eve.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah, I was shocked at how much I forgot or
it made me appreciate how well the Duffer Brothers handle
story and handle character. And I've always liked, like every
time a new season comes out, pretty much watch it
immediately with my wife. Yeah, and I'm like, wow, I
was so sick. But rewatching there's so many things you
might miss from like the breaks between the seasons or whatever,

(38:40):
and just seeing like a linear growth, because I mean,
that's how these stories are formed, and I feel like
so many people forget about that.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's like a lot of people look.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
At serious as just season season season season, but they're
all telling a bigger story and that's the whole point
of this. And that I love rewatching stuff before going
into something, so that stuff is like fresh in your mind.
You can really understand the full concept of what these
people are trying to accomplish. And wow, dude, are these
people amazing at story Like me rewatching season one and

(39:08):
being like even if they didn't plan it at the time,
they did a great job of connecting it later on
of like, yeah, wow, they had Vecna teas in like
episode one, there's like a picture that I think might
have been originally a demo organ but it looks like
it could be Vecna because it's a shadowy figure.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
The clock strike is in.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
When when Will get captured and stuff, and I'm like,
these geniuses, Like, again, even if they didn't plan from
it from the jump, you wonder them going back and connecting.
It is so good and just the way each season
kind of reveals a little bit more of the mystery
of the upside down and how Eleven's connected, and I'm
so excited to kind of get the full picture, even

(39:49):
like season four, that that season is a masterpiece, Like
the finale is a movie.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
It's literally two and a half hours. It's a movie. Yeah,
and just rewatching it being like, dude, these guys are incredible.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Yeah, yeah, I remember. That's that's when I that's when
I remember liking a lot. But it's been a while
since between like that last season and now right like
three years. Ye, so I think it's worth worth the
catch up for sure. But it's yeah, it's funny you think,
like did they know about all this stuff from the beginning,
and like did they leave those Easter eggs for you

(40:21):
like on purpose? Or is it just like a happy accident?
But yeah, but I still I mean as far as
like storytelling and just like that's when a series is
like really good. Obviously like way different here, but like
there's an animal call one piece and this well over
a thousand episodes, but they've done that to the point
where you're like, this guy must have had like the

(40:42):
endgame in his mind from the get go, because there's
no way doubt, like a thousand episodes, you like dropped
it like a little easter egg. Like that's just those
things are. I don't know, that's what makes a good
story to me. It's just like the pieces are there
if you were really paying attention. But like and then
rewatchability you can go back and like that that kind
of stuff is really cool.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah. So its just I was already hyped for the
final season.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
I think most people are still, Like even if people
say they aren't, they're gonna be watching it. So it's
like you're gonna say whatever you want, you're still excited
to watch it. Yeah, But rewatching it gave me so
much like appreciation for the series as a whole, and
I'm me even more excited. I'm like, I was like
sad when I finished. I was like, man, maybe I
should have waited a few weeks, like right, yeah into it,

(41:27):
but I was. I also went through it pretty fast.
It only took a couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
But I am lucky and I'm a freelance designer so
I can put something on while.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It's kind of for me to do, so it's not
like you have to like, yeah, give it all of
your tech.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
Yeah, I gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
I like having some downtime. I don't like to watch
like too much in a row, but their shows like that,
I will find myself like I've been sitting here for
like four hours, i gotta go, like do something. I
gotta take a walk or something, you know, like yeah,
slippery slope for sure, but yeah, I don't know. I like,
I think because it came out so long ago, like
I feel like people are like people will be hyped

(42:05):
once it comes out, and I'm sure it'll be great,
but like it's just one thing you almost forget about.
But I'd rather than take their time and make sure
like the finale is good, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Yeah, they've even said because like a lot of presses
coming out about it now obviously leading up to it,
and they said they they finished like the final thirty
minutes like when they first started, like in production of
the last season, they made sure the final thirty minutes
like stuck the landing and then kind of worked backwards
from that. And I'm like, thank god, because they because

(42:35):
they they kind of they reference like Game of Thrones
and they're like, we don't want to Game of Thrones.
This where it's like, you know, one of the best
series of all time until the end and then the
end just pumbles off. They're like, we want to we
want to land the ship. So I'm like, yeah, okay,
I'm gonna trust you because everything you've done has been awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
So yeah, but you're just waiting and ready to see
if it does land the ship, you know.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, at least it sounds like at
least they are aware that that's a possibility. So it
feels like they probably did everything they could to make
sure that that wasn't the case, which is you know,
I appreciate for sure.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
And then I was watching this when it first came out,
and then I just stopped for no reason, and then
I picked it back up, but it was you the
series you oh yeah, and I stopped I think of
season two, and then carried on and I've been watching
that over like the past few months, just kind of
at night when my wife and I are just kind
of after dinner and after going to the gym, and
we're just hanging hanging out and I'll put that on and.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
It's a pretty good show, ends pretty good.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I think it's just kind of wild to see this
dude who thinks he's like Dexter and he's not at all.
Like Dexter is still a serial killer, but at least
he has a moral compass about it. This guy thinks
he's Dexter and just isn't. He's just like the worst
human being ever.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
I do remember watching the first episode, first two seasons likewise,
but I don't think I've caught up with it. I
heard the newest was like pretty good.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
It does.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
It gets like he goes to Europe for once, and
you're like, how can this dude keep getting away with it?
But then they explain it in kind of a smart way,
and it's just insane, how like crazy this guy just
how he's just like I am the hero, I am
the protagonist, you know, the unreliable.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Narrator, crazy, narcissistic.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
And the thing that just drives me crazy is like,
obviously he has like severe mental health issues, and it's
crazy to see him like how quickly he falls in
and out of love with someone, and how he's obsessed
with women.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's like so gross.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
But it's like he'll immediately be like you're the one,
and then something weird happens, like more mostly they find
out who he really is and they're like you're a psychopath,
and then he's like you're not the one and then
finds the new one to Yeah, but the last season
does have I mean, the last two seasons have some
pretty big twist that I did not see coming. I
was like, whoa, because I was kind of like, it

(44:55):
can get a little repetitive because it is kind of
the same thing over and over.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
People find out has to kill it. How is it
going to get out of it?

Speaker 3 (45:03):
You know?

Speaker 1 (45:04):
But there's there's a few twists where I'm like, WHOA,
didn't see that coming? Okay, cool, And it ends pretty
pretty satisfying too. It's kind of like a thing like
if you didn't finish it, it's worth the watch. It's
not like one of the best shows I've ever seen,
but it's like a solid TV show that doesn't end
and you're like, I hated that I.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Watched that, so yeah, yeah, that's that'd be a bummer.
I do. I do remember, like I definitely liked the
first two seasons, maybe after the second I was just like,
all right, this is kind of I get it, Like,
what can you really like? Is he just going to
keep doing this? Like yeah, but yeah, someone I don't
I'm sure they have developed. Was it the fifth season now?

Speaker 2 (45:43):
This is where it ended?

Speaker 5 (45:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:45):
Gotcha? Yeah, so I feel like, yeah, I'll have to
add that to my list. I want to watch a
new Dexter too. I haven't seen. It's pretty good, Yeah, yea,
because I I I that's a serious that I watched
all the way through and it was you know, whether
you like the thing or not. I thought it was great,
but then I heard the newest I don't know if
it's like because they did like a prequel kind of

(46:05):
Dexter thing right too or something where he was young.
And but then this newest season apparently is really good.
Someone told me that they loved it. So that's a
series I really liked.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
So obviously the original Dextra series ended. It's weird because
I don't mind the ending scene like him locking away,
but everything I led up to it is like the weirdest.
The whole deb falling in love with them somebot was
so weird, and like I was like, why is this happening.
It feels so off the wall, and like one of
the main writers like left after I think, like the

(46:37):
Trinity Killer stuff, and that's why there's like a very
obvious decline.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, but all of the OG team came back for
New Blood and then for the new one Resurrection, and
New Blood also has a pretty bad ending, but they
immediately wreckcon it. It's funny because they wreckcon it in
the prequel series because the prequel series starts with him
in present time and then it kind of like rewinds,
and the prequel series is actually really good, but they

(47:07):
canceled that for one season, and I'm so mad about
it because everyone they cast as the young version is perfect,
so good, and it's so cool seeing like Harry alive
and Harry interacting with with with Dexter and dead.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
That stuff is awesome, but they cancel it.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
So that's but Resurrection is really cool too, because instead
of doing the same thing over and over, you see
Dexter evolve, like truly evolve and kind of become this
different human and that's what I appreciated the most of it.
There's some stuff that I feel like they kind of
rushed by, maybe a little too fast and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
But it's fine. But that's going to keep going.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
And I do think it's really funny that this franchise
keeps finding a way to like righting the wrongs of
the endings of that people. So hoping when this finally
comes to a close, they end it in a in
a satisfying way. I don't know how it's gonna be,
like I does he finally get caught.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I don't know. I don't know what would really be satisfying,
but I'm.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Hoping that when it ends, it's okay, yeah, got it, cool, great, awesome, they're.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Gonna they're gonna nail it. And then Game of Throne
is gonna come back and be like, actually, this is
how we'll do like a movie, be like forget all
that stuff. This is how it's actually gonna end, or
like they'll do another season or something.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
They were supposed to do, like a post like a
show something.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
All right, and then that guy canceled. I got canceled. Yeah,
I did see that as a bumber, And like House
Dragons is really cool. Yeah, it'd be a tough thing
to kind of kind of fix fix that box job.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah, lots of just read the book makes better. I guess, well,
the book doesn't end. That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, I'm sure that's what they ran into their like
no source material. I guess we'll just end it. I know,
like I've heard they like had you know, they's probably
toss with with him at length about like what the
ending should be, but just that you can tell they
have a vision. But I'm gonna talk about great series
that I love, like as someone who likes high fantasy

(49:16):
kind of stuff like that. It's just but everybody liked it.
There was something for everybody, and it's just like, I
don't know, I want seals things a little bit.

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Yeah, it's yeah, it's it's I watched like the first
three seasons as it was coming out, and then my
wife and I after it finished, went through and watched
all of it, which was great for me because I
already had a familiarity with some of the names because
there's so many names.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
It's it's it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, introduced overwhelming characters, takes yeah at first, so that
was nice because I was like, oh, I remember all
these people.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Cool, this is great. Yeah, and going into it and yeah,
it's not like we liked the finale because we didn't.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
We just weren't as crushed by it as everyone else
because you had to wait years in between and then
you know there, we didn't have the anticipation and we
didn't have that hype level going into it because everyone's
like it sucked.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So yeah, our expectations were very much lowered.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Yea, yeah again, I still think they totally bubbled the
ball crossing the.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Finish line for sure.

Speaker 3 (50:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
I was just like, it's not I've seen worse finalees.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Oh yeah, it's not like it's not terrible. It's it's
like I think everybody just had high expectations and maybe
they knew it could be better, because like I feel
like even the episode or two before that, we're like unbelievable.
They're like, it was good in my opinion up until
like maybe the last episode or two. I'm having trouble

(50:40):
like really remembering, but I liked people would be like
that whole season was terrible. I don't think it really was.
I think like maybe you can argue about like the
finale finale, but it makes it makes sense. It's not
like what they did was just like you know, it
feels like they were, you know, doing killing people or
doing whatever. They weren't really going off on tangents. It

(51:02):
was just like maybe less climactic than you expected, but no,
it wasn't It wasn't bad. It's like a series like that.
It's just I feel like maybe it was they maybe
they were doomed from the get go, especially without having
maybe the source material, you know what I mean. Like,
and Homeboy's still not even done those books. He's still
trying to figure.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Out the ending, Like, you know, I don't think it's
never gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Probably probably not, honestly, he's probably like because I mean,
if he didn't have pressure before and now he knows
what will happen if he watches the ending and he's
gonna hear about.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
It, it's like double the pressure.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
The pressure, Yeah, seriously, because I like I thought he
was close when like the finale dropped, and that was
years ago, Like it's still not out. It's I don't know,
not to put any pressure on you, dude, but like
I'm sure a lot of people way and he's, yeah, yeah,
like where are we? Where are we at? I haven't
read many fantasy books like as much as I would too,

(52:00):
but that I feel like it's a series I probably
like get into or at least audiobook or something like that.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
Like audiobook might be easier.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Yeah, I've gotten into reading pretty big in the past
like year, but sci fi and fantasy are kind of
hard for me to get into.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Reading wise, it depends on what it is because usually
fantasy books are so long.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Yeah, they're just so long. Yeah, I've been like, I've
been listening to the Wheel of Time. I think that
was a h so it there's a series on Prime Yeah,
and I was like, this is awesome, Like I really
like fantasy, you know, kind of like Lord of the
Rings kind of vibe.

Speaker 2 (52:42):
I like, I really like this.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Like I watched the whole first season. I was obsessed.
I probably watched it twice. And I'm like, and I
realized it was one of like the best selling fantasy
novels of all time. They're fifteen books or something crazy
like that. So I started, I think, I'm like on
the third book, but it's it's one it's completely different
from the show, so it confused me like immediately, oh
and two the guy just explains into like it like

(53:07):
like a blade of grass, like I know what a
tree looks like. It's just like he explains to like
such like detail, which is awesome, and I'm sure it
was really cool by the time it came out, but
my brain's rotted, like I like I need gratification, you
know what I mean, Like I quit explaining this for us.
I get it, like it's the morning, there's there's do.

(53:28):
But I don't know. I'm sure that's series is really good,
and like I think the combination of watching the show
and like reading the book and like they made like
other people the protagonists, like it's it's it's confusing for sure,
like reading and watching at the same time. I think
they did a good job with the show, but they
definitely like loosely based it off the books, at least

(53:50):
the first three or four that I read. So it's
a I was finding myself getting confused. I'm like, didn't
this person do this instead of like they just had
different characters do different Like this guy was supposed to
go off and beat the big Dad and they made
it so another of the characters in that instead. So
it was just like interesting, Yeah, I like they weren't

(54:12):
really it wasn't super true to the you know, the
book itself, but maybe I'll hop back into that. That
one's it's nice when you have like long drives, like
when we're on tour, I'll just like, if I have
to kill like a night drive, I'll just you know,
it's like watching a movie, but obviously you're driving, it's
not very safe. But audio books a way to go.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Oh yeah, that's that's good stuff. That's yea.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
Audiobooks are like podcasts are my big driving things. Yeah,
I don't I don't have to worry about tour driving anymore.
Oh yeah, yeah, I can understand why an audiobook would
be great because like those are usually very long and
you just pop it in you're.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Just good to go.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
But it's got to be a good book because then
if you're like, oh yeah, you're zoning out, it's you know,
it's you know, good two or three in the morning,
you're like, I gotta I gotta put like I don't know,
like a war podcast on or something like something something
will keep me awake.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Tim, thank you so much for joining me today, man
today with this.

Speaker 3 (55:07):
Yeah, hey, thank you for having me, Like he said
the first for me, But this is great. I feel
like keep talking about all this stuff.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
Me too, Me too, Hey, I'm right there. I'm right
there with you.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
But before we go out of here, please plug what
Windwalker's got going on and where the people can find you.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
Yes, we're all over social media Windwalkers anywhere you listen
to music, Spotify, you know, Apple Music over there, YouTube,
all that kind of stuff. We just announced a spring
tour next year with day Seeker, really excited about. But yeah,
just keep touch socials. We just really snep. I guess
that's pretty important to mention. I don't belong here, but

(55:45):
we dropped a little over a month ago. But yeah, yeah,
check us out. We're you know, gonna be touring a
lot next year. I'll probably hopefully come coming to a
city near you.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Amazing. I'll make sure and leak everything down below.

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Speaker 2 (56:09):
Until next time, see you, lar nerds,