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Welcome to the show, Gary.I'm so excited that I get to
interview you and that you're here today, So thank you so much for being
here. When I read your questions, I was so excited because I channel
the multiverse and the Multiverse blueprint.But I'm not a researcher. You know,
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when I first started channeling all thishealing abilities, I didn't know what
I was doing. I still don't, and I didn't even know what sacred
geometry was. So to have youon that we can really talk about this,
I'm really excited about this. Ohgreat, I'm looking forward to it.
Thank you. So okay, So, how does physicists have contemplated the
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existence of parallel universes since the eighteenhundreds? Can we talk about that?
Sure? Well, I think it'sreally pays to talk about parallel universes from
two different perspectives. What science issaying about it, what ancient spirituality says
about it, because they do overlap. But I think the spiritual side is
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a lot more clear and understandable andmakes more sense, at least to me.
But there's a number of theories thatare floating around out there about parallel
universes, and some of them getrather complicated. So there's a bubble universe
theory, which says there's more thanone big bang, so there's more than
one universe out there, and oneof these days our universe could you know,
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technically meet up with one of those. There's another theory out there that
says that we're kind of like abubble in a bubble. That's called the
brain theory b R A N E, which is short for membrane. And
what that kind of says is thatthe universe are universes. Parallel universes are
contained in these sort of barrier likemembrane like structures, and we may be
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inside another membrane. Then the wildesttheory is the many many world hypothesis,
which is that every event that occursactually leads not just to one result,
but leads to multiple results which createmultiple dimensions. Okay, wrap your head
around that one. So you see. The scientific theories are a little counterintuitive
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and a little out there, butI think the important thing to understand is
that they're recognizing, in one formor another, that there's very likely something
called the multiverse out there. Thereare very lucky parallel universes out there now.
So to get from a spiritual standpoint, and this is where I think
it becomes, things make a littlebit more sense and become a little bit
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more clear. And the reason forthat is that the spiritual point of view,
in particular, I'm talking about theGnostic spiritual tradition, and I can
explain who the Gnostics were later onif your listeners don't know, But the
Gnostics really were a group that werecentered in ancient Alexandria, Egypt, and
they really combined so many different streamsof spirituality of that day, Buddhism,
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Hinduism, Hellenistic philosophy, Egyptian hermeticpractices, and even the Kabbalah, and
the Gnostics were exposed to all theseand essentially had synthesized these principles into an
understanding of how the universe operates,how creation happened, how the universe appeared,
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and how it's maintained. So whatI'm going to talk about today is
largely coming from the Gnostic tradition.But the reason why I think it really
makes more sense is because the Gnosticsstart to explain the multiverse and the creation
from the standpoint of consciousness. Consciousnessis their point of departure. Now.
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The reason why science, I think, is all over the board is because
science still starts from a matierialistic standpoint. There's still a strong belief, not
becoming less dominant, but still astrong belief in the scientific community that life
and consciousness started from the bottom up, meaning there was somehow this random collection
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of particles that collided with one anotherand formed more and more complex organisms,
which eventually led to life. Theproblem is, none of it makes any
sense because they never explained how inorganicmatter all of a sudden became organic and
was able to form more complex biologicalstructures. But if you take it from
the top down standpoint that life startedfrom consciousness, that it was essentially a
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giant mind construct from a source consciousness, things start to fall into place a
little bit more and become more intelligible. So what the tradition says is that
this source consciousness projected other points ofconsciousness. You know, for people from
a Judeo Christian background, you cancall these other points angels or archangels or
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whatever. They not really what theyreally entities, like individual intelligent entities.
So the way to think of itis think of like the layers of an
onion or concentric circles. The sourcewas that radiated out these separate points of
consciousness. But these the separate consciousness, they had their own own of existence.
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But we really shouldn't think of themas spatial dimensions. Okay. I
only use the example of the onionsand the concentric circles to make it more
visual for people. In reality,what defined these dimensions were the varying vibrations
of consciousness, the varying levels ofconsciousness. So the highest level of consciousness
would be the source, the nextlevel out would be a little bit more
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diluted or limited from the source.The next level out would be a little
bit more diluted, and so forthand so on, so that the further
you got away from the source consciousness, the lower the level of awareness.
Ultimately, this process, and there'sa whole mythology that went with this,
which is extremely interesting in and ofitself. But ultimately this led to the
creation of the material world, whereyou had souls pursuing their own individual direction.
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Apart from this, this unity ofthe consciousness with the source pursuing their
own individual direction leading to the formationof the material world. But long and
short of it, that's how theancients viewed consciousness. They viewed them as
different or dimensions or parallel dimensions,as different levels of consciousness. So I
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want to go back to something yousaid, because your computer locked up for
a couple seconds again, Angels angelsare what Okay, what I was saying
is that these points of consciousness thatwere radiated out from the source. To
help people think of them, youcan think of them as angels or archangels,
but not really what we the Gnosticscall them eons aeo n s,
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which means anities, and what theyreally were were archetypal centers of energy from
the source itself. So they weregiven names like truth, justice, mercy,
love, wisdom. The clearly archetypalimages from Plato to Carl Jung that
have been identified, and each ofthese supposedly was responsible for a certain creating,
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a certain vibration of the created worldfor you know, for resonating with
those kind of ideals love or wisdomor whatever the case may be. So
you can think of these eons asangels or archangels, if it makes it
more intelligible to you. What theyreally were were sources of highly intelligent light
energy that were vibrating to a particularfrequency. Illy agree with that absolutely.
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Okay, So a little bit moreabout the string theory, the multiverse theory.
I work with the multiverse energies andI bring that in, but I
have never researched it. So canyou talk about that a little bit?
Well, like you, this issort of my background. How I came
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to this. When I was inmy twenties, I discovered I was a
very accurate medical intuitive and once Iput the disbelief about that aside and I
just let my intuition flow, Istarted experiencing other types of phenomena clairvoyance,
cleare audience, remote viewing, premonitions, and so forth. Being the Capricorn
that I am, I wasn't justsatisfied in having the experiences. I wanted
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to understand something about the nuts andbolts of it. And that's where I
started initially looking at spirit ancient spiritualtext, and then ultimately, ultimately I
started on quantum physics and the nexusthere is that really, in their essence,
both ancient spiritual wisdom and modern quantumphysics deal with light, energy,
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and matter. That's what it's allabout, those three things, energy and
matter. So the reason why uh, I know that there are other dimensions
out there is because I've tapped intothem. That's where all this information that
I got, I mean, whichwas verified in the real in the so
called real world. You know,I got this obviously from other other sources
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of uh information that were I think, vibrating at a higher level than we
were, because otherwise I had noway of making premonitions or predictions. And
and can I can I describe indetail what the Osians look like? No?
Because I got the information from them, but I didn't really start to
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see pictures of movies of what thedimension looks like. I have done into
possibilities of planes of existence and whatthose plan planes might look like, and
a lot of it makes sense tome in light of my experience. So
sort of by putting my experience togetherwith sources of information that I've read in
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both quantum theory and spiritual ancient spiritualtext, by connecting all those it really
makes sense to me and really hasaffirmed my belief that there certainly are other
dimensions out there. Oh, definitelycompletely agree with you. I work a
lot in the other dimensions. Youknow, you were talking about the bubble
inside a bubble. I've been tothe top of what I say as a
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dome, and I don't really understandit. Can you go into that more?
Can you tell me a little bitmore about your perception You said about
something about a dome. Well,you said, we're like in a bubble
within a bubble, right, it'sone of the theories, yeah, yeah,
And that it's the universes are likeseparated in the bubble or whatever you
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said. I've been to the topof that bubble and I was just in
source energy. I was in zeropoint or the eye of God. At
that point, I was like,above all the dimensions that we see and
or that we can experience, butI don't know what it is and I
haven't researched it. You know.I did a Dolores Cannon training just because
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I love Delores Cannon, and herdaughter was drew a picture of like that
bubble, and it's like I've seenthat, you know, I saw it
several years ago and I've been upthere many times, but I don't understand
it. Can you explain it orwhat you think is my theories? Yeah,
let me try and explain it froma quantum standpoint. Okay, So
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what scientists have realized is that thereare no such things as particles. So
what makes up our supposedly solid worlddoesn't really exist at the quantum level.
Now, Isn't that strange? Becausethe quantum level is what makes the larger
macroscopic level that we perceive that welive in. You know, So how
does this work and what is atthe very bottom of reality? Well,
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what's at the bottom of reality isa quantum wave, a wave of light
energy, and it's infinite. It'sall places all at once. What happens
in this sea of calm energy thiswave of energy that is fundamental to all
reality is that every so often thereare disturbances in the quantum field. And
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the best thing I can liken ittoo is, Okay, I live part
of the time in Florida, andyou can look out onto the bay and
it's pretty calm, but all ofa sudden, a water spout forms.
Now, for those of you whodon't know what water spouts are, they're
little like water borne, little minitornadoes, and you can see them arising
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right out of the water. Now, the water around it is still,
but there's this disturbance right around thewater spout, and it just sort of
kind of spontaneously forms itself. Sothe scientists have theorized that the bubbles that
we're talking about, like the bubbleof our universe, is kind of a
blip or a blemish in the quantumfield that kind of pops out. It's
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like a like a oh, youknow, just kind of bulges out from
the smooth quantum field. And therecould be any number of these. It
might not just be ours. Theremight be others out there that are within
this enfolding quantum wave. But thesethese other disturbances are kind of blips in
the energy screen that can actually form. These pocket dimensions can occur within that
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quantum field. So you know,I'm not exactly sure what your experience was
or where exactly you were at thattime, but that does talk or address
a little bit about how these bubbleuniverses bubble dimensions might form. Okay,
Yeah, what I was, Iwas running some energy and I was in
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meditation and I went into I wastold to go into the eye of God.
So I just saw myself in thespace and it was like at the
top of this dome or in abubble, and I could see it,
and I could see that I wasabove all the dimensions, and I was
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just in this like zero point energyand I go in there a lot now,
but I don't always see the dome, but I've seen that, and
it was just really interesting. It'slike what it sounds to me like what
when you said you kind of wereabove and sawbery and it sounds like your
consciousness was streaming in that quantum field, in that quantum energy field, and
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that you were perceiving maybe some ofthese dimensions or disturbances. Like I said,
like you were looking over the riverand seeing all the water spouts there
that you know, your energy wasin that flow, that fundamental infinite flow,
which is the energy quantum energy wave. Okay, okay, Yeah,
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it's very interesting and I haven't understandstood it yet, you know. And
it's sometimes these things come to meor happened to me, and it takes
me years before I totally understand it. They experience it like unfolds. Yeah
for me, that's pretty that's prettycommon. You know, those of us
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that have these experiences, they justexperience them and they don't really we don't
really you know, perceive well,I would say the mechanics behind them.
Uh, and yeah, That's whereI was at when all this started happening
with me. So that's why Istarted seeking answers with quantum theory and you
know, and looking at the ancientspiritual track that text to see if I
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could find analogs uh that might explainmy experience. And I did. Yeah.
Yeah, very cool. So ourreality is a cosmic holographic movie.
Let's talk about that. Well,they there's a very good chance that we're
living in a giant simulation, kindkindof like the haul of deck on Star
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Trek where they were able to programall these different experiences, you know,
go back to different time frames withall these characters, and they were so
vivid, they're so real. Sometimesthe crew on the Star Trek crew would
immerse themselves in these experiences and youknow, as if it was happening to
them, and so they sometimes youforget you're the programmer, and you become
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you've become so involved in the programthat you've created. So I think that
what started, what kind of kickedoff the whole idea of a holographic universe,
were some things like quantum entanglement.So what they found was that particles
that literally were millions of light yearsapart would instantaneously communicate with each other,
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actually faster than the speed of light. And nothing is supposed to go faster
than the speed of light, exceptperhaps the speed of thought. And so
that would be like saying there's aversion of you here on Earth, and
say there's another version of you onMars, and I pinched the Earth version
of the one on Mars that's outat the exact same time. Okay,
so how does that happen? Howdo how do particles that are literally light
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years apart instantaneously communicate with one another? Well, they started to theorize.
David Bohmee was one of the originalones that started to theorize, well,
you know what, maybe they're notseparated. Maybe these so called things that
we look at as separations or ofobjects or particles, maybe we're just all
part of like kind of like ahologram. And that's why things can communicate
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instantaneously. That's why they've done experimentswhere people can actually have elements of their
own DNA, you know, takenout and put in a laboratory miles away,
and when they're exposed to emotional stimulation, they could see the DNA react
at the exact same time. Sothese connections exist at all different levels.
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And why does that happen, Well, you know, if you're part here's
the thing. If you're part ofa hologram. The thing about a hologram
is you can slice and dice ahologram and any number of pieces, but
each little minute piece will always containthe image of the hole, which means
that we're living in a unity thatlooks to us like a separation. So
that's where that's where the you know, the idea started to come from that
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maybe we're living in this kind oflike simulated world and we're experiencing things.
You know, is a little bitof a holographic projection. Now, very
interesting was that some years later andwhen they started studying black holes US.
A black hole is it's an areathat becomes so dense that it sucks in
all light around it. And there'ssomething around a black hole that defines it
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called an event horizon. Anything outsideof the event horizon is still in our
universe. Anything that gets sucked intothe event horizon, we don't know what
happens. That all goes somewhere.Okay, So they when they were studying
black holes, what they found outwas that the information that makes up a
black hole, you would think wouldreside inside the black hole, inside the
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volume of the black hole. Butthey found out that wasn't true. The
information resides on the outside of theblack hole, of the event horizon,
and it's projected inward. So letme give you an example to make that
more intelligible. Let's say you havea bucket, and inside the bucket is
our universe. Everything the comings andgoings, the stars, the planets,
us, everything that happens in ouruniverse is inside that bucket. Ome times
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Sines would think that all the informationthen about our universe is inside the bucket
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what the study of black Holes tellsus. No, that's not true.
The information actually on the outside ofthe bucket, on the skin of the
bucket, is two dimensional sheets thatare projected inward to create three dimensional information,
the appearance of three dimensional images.So you know what the black Holes
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study did? Was it furthered thebelief that we may be very well living
in a holographic projection, that everythingthat we're experiencing is three dimensional reality is
actually a projection from elsewhere. Howcan each of us harness the power of
quantum spirituality to transform the world.Well, I think connecting the dots always
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gives you a fuller picture of anythingthat's going on. So you know what
I quantum spirituality in my book,for instance, Quantum Speciality, but which
incidentally just swept the American Book BestBook Awards or one and four out of
four categories. One four awards outof four categories. But congratulations, that's
amazing. Thank you. What quantumspirituality is about is it's the roadmap for
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consciousness. And like any map youneed to make sense, you need more
than one coordinate. You need north, south, latitude and longitude, whatever
the case may be. What Ifind with many people is they're either scientific
or logical, or they're kind ofspiritual, and they operate in those spheres.
I've tried to cross those spheres alongwith other disciplines like neurobiology, psycho
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psychology, Carl Jungian psychology, andso forth, and I've taken a multidisciplinary
approach to explain many of the phenomenathat we're talking about here right now,
which is the creation, the originof life, how human beings came about,
what our purpose is. I've beenable to create a matrix of information,
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so within this arena of information,people can get this knowledge and then
they can incorporate it into their ownspiritual practice. But it's always good.
I've always felt to understand the basicsbecause the universe does operate with certain laws
and certain basics, and it's goodto understand those, but understand those from
several different standpoints so that it makessense. Because I know that, you
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know, my spiritual mind was veryexcited or my logical mind was very excited
when I started going into quantum physicsto find out about the stuff that was
happening in my spiritual mind. Soit validates, you know, left brain,
right brain validation of things. Andthat's what quantum spirituality is about.
It's about giving you know, referencepoints from different disciplines, connecting dots and
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allowing people to enter this arena ofinformation and further their own spiritual journey and
hopefully have the same type of extraordinaryexperiences with consciousness that you've had, or
that I've had, or that othershave had. So how do we transform
our world with this what quantum spirituality? Well, I think I think the
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first step is individually. It allhas to go start with the individual,
and individuals have to take spiritual responsibilityfor themselves. Opening up to spiritual understandings
is just like any other form ofwork. If you ignore it or you
don't pay attention to it, youwon't grow into it, if you won't
understand it, and you'll just kindof lead your life. You know,
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life will lead you around by thenose. I say in the book for
one of the first questions I askedis do you want to live in the
basement or do you want to livein the penthouse. If you live in
the basement, you can survive anddo your job and go home and eat
and have a family and do allthese other things and enjoy life from time
to time. But you know,you really don't understand the fullness of life
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and what it's about. But ifyou move up to the penthouse with the
type of knowledge that we're talking about, then you start to see. Then
you start to see things. Whenan individual consciousness opens up, it's a
big thing. And when people startto have understandings that there's more out there
than just what our five census detect. That's that vibrates in the universe.
Okay, that's a big event.When when an individual person understands that,
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when groups of people understand that,it's an even bigger event. You know,
I think we've some of us aresome of us listening. May have
been in situations where you've been ina group meditation, or you know,
you get that group energy and it'slike turbo charge, you know, instead
of by yourself, you're linked withother souls and other energies, and I
mean, you know, you justget that tingling all over your body and
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you just feel it. It's likeI say, it's like being turbo charged.
So you know, but it allstarts with the individual, and it
all starts with taking individual responsibility foryour own spiritual growth. And then what
you do with it that's really upto you. Maybe it makes your business
practice more successful or more you know, a little bit more moral. Maybe
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you write books like I did,or you try and heal people like other
people do. The expressions of whatan individual person can do with that are
unlimited, but it all begins withtaking that initial responsibility to pursue that road
and understand some of these questions.Okay, so I'm going to go back
to this question again, the powerof quantum spirituality to transform the world in
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us. Well, again, Ithink the power of quantum spirituality is taking
the knowledge that can come from quantumscience and can come from ancient spiritual wisdom
and incorporating that into your own spiritualpractice, whatever that may be. There's
no one path, as I'm sureyou're aware, everybody has their own way
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of approaching spirit. But you canapproach spirit with a conceptual framework, a
good knowledge base that really helps youand it bolsters your faith, and it
gives you a better understanding that there'sa payoff at the end for all that
work that you're putting in by studyingthe quantum physics. Well again, I'm
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getting back to my book in particular, because that's my point of departure.
Okay, So I can't I can'ttalk about in generalities, it's too abstract.
What I'm trying to say is thebook that I wrote. It it
connects all these dots from the psychological, neurobiological, quantum, physical, and
ancient spiritual traditions, and it givesthis arena of knowledge that can really help
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boost people's effort to experience higher consciousness. Okay, through reading your book.
Well, I'm not saying reading mybook is the only way to do it,
but I put a lot of Iput a lot of thought, and
I put a lot of energy intothis, and I hope people can benefit
from my experiences, which is prettyextensive. Yeah, it sounds like it.
It definitely sounds like it. Becauseto me, quantum spirituality to transform
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the world is like you said,we're individuals, but we're all connected.
So when in the universe, youknow, sees that we have groups thinking
the same way. And how Ithink we transform it is with us shifting
ourselves. It's like dominoes and itgoes into the collective consciousness and starts transforming
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the whole collective consciousness. What doyou think of that, Well, I
think in the I know, inthe Gnostic text, there is a concept
that there's kind of a tipping pointwhere when enough people awaken in consciousness,
it starts to tilt the landscape ina different direction, and you know,
hopefully in a in a much betterdirection than where we're heading. But you
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know, again, the whole ideaof group consciousness, and now that can
work for the negative too. Imean, look at what happened in Nazi
Germany. I mean Nazism, Nazism, communism, these are these are really
mental viruses that have dramatically impacted people'slives for the worst. You know,
when you have a group of peoplewho are oriented, you know, and
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hopefully they have a spiritual understanding andthat that incidentally, I make a distinction
from spirit and religion. Okay,I mean, religion is fine. I'm
not one of these people that goesaround bashing religion and knocking religion. However,
I do feel that spirituality is ona higher plane than religion because if
you're on your journey of life orjourney of spirit, religion you know says,
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okay, come on into our box, and you know, we'll we'll
give you certain information, but you'vegot to stay in our box because this
is the only thing that's valid.Whereas the true spiritual pilgrim will say,
okay, I find I'll take thatand go on to the next way station
and learn from that way station,and then go on to the next way
station and so forth and so on. So you know, you can take
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positive things from religion, but don'tget boxed in. Keep an open mind,
because you know, truth is anunfolding phenomenon. True. Absolutely,
I have an activation called labels andboxes, and I totally agree with you
on that. But I also agreethat spirituality also has its collective consciousness belief
systems, and when you plug into, say I'm spiritual, you're also running
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all of their belief systems that groupconsciousness of spiritual people. And I see
how spiritual people really get sucked intoto these belief systems that really aren't true,
and they keep you boxed in too. That's what I think when I
think of spirituality versus religion, Ithink they're both boxes and I don't feel
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like I belong to either one ofthem. Well, I don't feel that
the spiritual you're talking about, Idon't feel it is true spirituality then,
because I mean I personally have neversubscribed to any spiritual group. I mean
I've kind of, you know,worked this independently through my own my own
experience. So if what you're sayingis really the case, yeah, Look,
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anything can fall into orthodoxy. Okay, science has fallen into orthodoxy.
I mean you can't you know,the scientific materialism says that if you even
think that there's intelligent design behind thecreation, that you know, we're going
to drum you out of academia.You're you're going to be an exile.
The spirituality can be orthodox too.I suppose, for instance, if you
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go to a certain spiritual church orsomething, I suppose that can happen there,
although I've never really gone to oneexcept to speak maybe yeah, so
I mean, anything can fall intoorthodoxy. But ultimately, you know,
as an individual, you have toseek your own path and develop your own
belief And I always say that prophetsspeak the heart of God, their followers
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start religions, and that's because thefollowers were not the ones that had the
experience, not the ones that hadthe revelation. My goal with my book
is to help people have their ownrevelations, to be their own profits,
so that they don't even have tobelieve people like me. In fact,
when I speak publicly, very oftenI start off by saying, don't believe
a damn thing I'm going to tellyou, and people are saying, wow,
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whatld I pay to come to thisfor? Well, what I'm really
saying to them is that I wantyou to listen to what I have to
say, consider what I have tosay, use it as you feel it
resonates with your truth. But atthe end of the day, it is
going to be your truth. Youhave to walk that road yourself and develop
what your own belief system is aboutthe truth of existence in your place and
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everything else, and be your ownprofit. I mean, faith is nice
and faith is helpful, but rememberone thing about faith. You're taking somebody
else's version of something. So Ican tell you that fire burns, but
till you put your hand in thatfire, you don't really know that for
sure. Once you put your handin the fire, you own it.
You own the truth of it.And that's what you need to get to.
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What enlightenment really is about is havingan experiential relationship with higher consciousness.
Having an experiential relationship with higher dimensionsand experience means just that you experience them.
You don't fantasize about them, youdon't take it on other people say
so, you experience it directly.That is the highest form of knowledge.
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That's where I would like to seepeople. Yeah, absolutely, I totally
agree with that. It's important forpeople to have their own connection and not
just believe other people. Yeah,because you can totally be brought down the
wrong road where you know you're inyou're spinning out in these belief systems that
don't even belong to you. Well, and people have agendas too, you
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know, I mean you can't always. There's been a lot of false profits
in life, and you know,some people are essentially or out there,
you know, mainly trying to makemoney off of things. You know,
and as you grow and you maturespiritually, you become more discerning of these
things. Now, Yeah, Itotally agree with you. I see a
lot of false prophets and they're they'revery popular, they're very well known,
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and they're giving wrong information. Whatdo you have to say, What would
you like to say about that?Well, they may not necessarily being giving
completely wrong information. They may begiving half truths or you know whatever.
There may be some gems of gemsof wisdom. Look, I mean,
in my opinion, even Paul,Saint Paul was not teaching Christianity. He
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was a bit of a false prophetin my mind, because he was not
teaching what Jesus taught and he hadhis own version of things that were a
mishmash of I don't know what.And he's an interesting character. Now is
he a false prophet in a way? Yes, there was some truth I
think in what he said. Butyou know, you're always going to run
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across this phenomenon life where someone someone'sgoing to sling you a line of bs
for some reason. It's up toyou to educate yourself and become more you
know, mature in terms of spirit, in terms of knowledge and everything else
that you could be more discerning andyou know into it that you know,
what this guy is saying doesn't resonatewith me, It doesn't sound right.
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Yeah, okay, So where wouldyou like to go from here? No,
I mean that's I mean, it'sentirely it's entirely up to you.
I think we've we've talked about alot of things. I mean, how
much how much time do we haveleft? About five minutes? Okay?
There were there were things that Iprobably would have said, but they would
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over they would take more than theywould take more than five minutes. But
you go ahead and say it.We can extend it a little bit.
Yeah. Yeah. You know,in in the Gnostic version of creation,
uh, there was the human soulbroke from the kind of hive mind or
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the spiritual infinity of what was calledheaven in order to pursue individual experience,
and that ultimately led to the creationof maybe the lowest form of spirituality,
which is spirit in a human bodyand a physical body. So you know,
we're really spirits, We're not somuch humans looking for a spiritual experience.
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Is spirits seeking a human experience,a different experience from just being on
a pure energetic level. And whatI would say is that life into out
of the dust of the clay ofthe earth. There is a big distinction
between creation and what now creation.To give you an example, Geppeto created
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the Puppio Pinocchio, was a separatecreation from Geppetto who was the creator.
But all the ancient spiritual traditions tellus that no, that's not the way
it happened. We were actually projectionsof the source consciousness itself, albeit in
diluted forms, in limited forms,but we were still a projection of this
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source consciousness. So just like apower grid, where you have the source
and then you have relay stations thattap down the source to make it usable
in homes and businesses and everything else. Essentially, we're like those relay stations,
so we do participate in the veryfabric of consciousness that has created and
sustains reality. And what I wouldlike to leave with people is that we
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are not these lowly creatures or creations. We are the fingers of God touching
the face of this earth, andour purpose is to spiritualize the material and
bring the experience of the material backto spirit. We are the bridge between
spirit and matter, and we aremuch much more than what we think we
are, and we have a muchmore exalted role to play in terms of
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shaping what physical life could be likefor generations to come. So I'd like
people to get away from the wholeguilt of original sin and all the other
bs that we have been taught byorganized religions, because we are a much
higher state of being than that.Absolutely, completely and totally agree with you.
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I love your explanation how we arelike the fingers of God, having
this experience and matter and creation.Yeah, yeah, well, I truly,
truly that's what all my experience hasled me to. Yeah. Absolutely,
I love all the research you've doneand how you explain this, and
I'm sure you go much deeper aboutall of this in your book. Can
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you give the name of your bookagain and maybe show it. Yeah,
I don't have a copy with me, but it's called Quantum Spirituality, and
it's available on all the online booksellersand in bookstores. It became an instant
Amazon bestseller. It's got fifty reviewson Amazon of people care to read the
most, about ninety percent five starand four star reviews. And I've also
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got a series, a book seriescalled the First Soul's Trilogy, which is
about the first spirits to incarnate intothe material world, and it traces their
lives over different epics of history.And the first book is called Pope Analisa.
It's an African nun who becomes thefirst female pope at a time when
America and Iron are going into anuclear war. It's won twenty five national
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and international book awards. I thinkit's maybe the most highly awarded independently published
book on the market out there.It's become kind of a cult hit,
and we're working on the first book, Pope Analisa, to get that into
a TV series on one of thestreaming networks. So if you go to
my website Petercanova dot com. It'sp E T E r c A n
o va dot com. You canlearn more about all all the different works
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and I've got articles and videos andyou know, other informative information on there.
Yeah, this is really coolsome andsaid they just bought your book.
Okay, well please if you enjoyit, please give you a review on
Amazon. Does allays help? Absolutely, thank you so much for being here,
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Peter. I really appreciate it.I'm so sorry we had so many
technical issues today. It's just kindof a strange day. I don't know
what's going on because I don't reallygo into all the planet stuff of mercury
retrograde anymore. I just don't eventhink about it today. It's very strange.
I've had stuff happen on this computertoday that I've never had happen in
my life before. It was reallyweird, but I'm glad we were able
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to get through it enough hopefully forpeople to relate to Yeah. Absolutely,
thank you so much for being here. I really appreciate it. Absolutely love
talking to you, and have anabsolutely beautiful day and everybody. You can
go to his website, Petercuanova dotcom thank you,