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February 29, 2024 • 58 mins
Episode 100 of Mexipino Podcast 🥳 first off WE LOVE Y'ALL! Secondly, we have J Cruz of The Cruz Show at Real 92.3 who talks about his insane radio wars stories and breaking generational cycles of Latino parents through his own kids.

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Cmusta kyo everyone on two and twoone two. There we go, ladies
and gentlemen, for the number onehundred episode of Mexicpino Podcast. We got
the one the only Jay Cruz.Thank you guys, man Yo Mexicano podcast.
This is awesome. You guys havea dope setup. Man. I
love the man I love this foryou guys, they like I aspired to

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have something like this one day,like this is very dope. Yeah,
it's it's taken a while. Itdefinitely was not like this a month ago.
Was this like pandemic or was thislike well, you know, I
was doing like artists interviews like sincetwenty sixteen. For sure, Remember I
kind of I had this. Ihad some of this so after when Jackie
wanted to do Mexicpino podcasts for thefirst time, which was like what like

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two years two ago, two threeyears ago. Yeah, yeah, for
sure, it's kind of an easytransition because I had, you know,
some of these things already for sure. Yeah. But the cameras are fucking
expensive. The cameras are expensive.The equipment looks great, the setup looks
great. You're controlling the camera anglesas you conduct this podcast. Yes,

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God bless you guys. Man,this is awesome. My head is spinning.
I'm a fucking multitask dude. Iknow. Every time I remember Nico
at Real ninety two three when youguys were on with Bootleg keV Uh,
and every time I saw Nico,he was like yo, it was.
I was always congratulating Nico on something, whether it was the videos that he
was putting out, or the mixthat I heard on the air, or
the break that I heard, orthe movement he was making at the radio

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station. There was always something goingon with Nico. And now that I
mean, the hustle never stopped.Never, man, no, it never,
It never stops. That's great,And I think that's what like,
that's what we're about, right,It's Filipinos and Mexicans right, like we're
just see he knows the premise,he knows the whole premise of Mexican Pano
podcasts, or gets in our DNA, dog gets in our dayna. All
we know is to work. Allwe know is just to continue to work

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and make it happen, regardless ofwhat we have or what we don't have.
All we know is to make ithappen somehow, some way, man,
Jackie, I know that's that's whatyou're all about. Nico, that's
what you're all about. I've seenit with my from with with with my
own eyes, from both of you. Man, this is this is very
cool days. I feel like,like like you said, like we're always
constantly like working that sometimes I forgetto enjoy the moment though. Yeah,

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you're looking at it, man,It's like you look up at it like,
oh, like I've done this andthat, and then it feels like
you haven't done anything, and youneed to do more and you need to
go harder, and you're stuck inbetween. Like I'm sure you've seen the
meme. You're stuck in between likeI'm proud of myself and I gotta go
harder. Yeah, right, Likethat's a tough spot to be. It's
like you accomplish something and then afterthat, you're like, what's next,

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What's next? And you're trying tooutdo yourself and now you're in a competition
with yourself and yeah, you don't. We don't really stop to enjoy,
and I think we should. I'mnow starting to like enjoy or even look
back and look back at things thatI've done and think to myself, oh
that was cool, you know,versus just forgetting it. There's so much
stuff that I've forgotten. It's insane, Like, oh shit, like I

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did talk to that one person.Yeah. Sometimes like Jeff and our producer
on the Cruise Show, He'll he'llmention something or an old video will pop
up on TikTok or Instagram and I'mlike, Yo, that's right, Like
I did that, we interviewed thatperson. Are like I talked to that
person. I feel bad, butthere's just so much work and we don't
stop the roses. Have you likeinterviewed someone and then reintroduced yourself like a

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second time. Yeah, bro,yeah, Yo, good to meet you
dog. And it's like, Yo, think the last time we saw each
other. In my head, I'mlike, oh shoot, that's right.
I'm like, oh god, that'sright. We've met each other like five
times. It has happened, youknow, And it's happened the other way
around, to where you talk toan artist and and they're like nice to
meet you, and you're like,bro, we met, yeah, we
yeah, we met like five yearsago or six years ago or two years

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ago. There was one artist Iinterviewed on the show on the Cruise Shows
where it was it was Corday AndI love the fact that like he came
in and he shook our hand andhe didn't know. I don't think he
knew, like, oh I've I'vealready met these people. So he's like,
good to see you, good tosee you, to see you,
that's a good way out. Yeah, and he did. He'd like actually
confirmed. He's like sometimes I don'tremember if i'd be meeting certain people,

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so to say good to see you, I've said good to see you,
and they're like, well, it'snice to meet you. And I'm like,
oh, that's right, Like Ijust got caught. Well. I
mean you could always go away aroundit like oh, you know, like
I've seen you on Instagram. Ithink that's like the hardest part because some
people like I feel like I knowthem or vice versa, and we've only
been communicating through Instagram. We alsokind Instagram family. It's crazy. We

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all have Instagram family that they supporteverything you do, and they and you've
been following each other for six,eight, nine, ten years and you've
never met them. You never metthem, and they're the most loyal person
you know, no literally and onlike how if you had a guess on
how many like artists you've actually intervieweda number Jesus, it's well over.

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I mean, it's probably getting closeto ten thousand. Maybe maybe it's not
expecting me neither. I don't knowwhat I just said. Maybe ten,
I don't know. It feels thatway. It feels like a million,
but maybe less than that. Idon't know. But it's been a lot.
I mean, I remember when wefirst started at Power, we were

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interviewing people from uh probably nine amto yeah, nine am to like four
or five six pm. Garcia wouldschedule seven interviews, six interviews, you
know, and back then I wasjust like, what are we doing?
You know, because I started toworry about the quality of the interview.
By the sixth interview, I'm I'mmy head is spinning, I'm burnt,
you know. But I think whatGarcia was doing, and he's a sports

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dude, he's a coach by natureand a father, great father, I
think he was he was just preppingme. He was he was conditioning me.
And I remember when we first movedto Reel, our first few days,
we were knocking out a bunch ofphoners and in studio interviews. Uh,
and we were knocking out anywhere fromlike I have to eight interviews a

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day just to get content going,just to get the ball rolling, you
know. So I've never kept count, but I don't know. Ten thousands
sounds crazy, but maybe or maybeless. I don't know, you're even
considering the ones that aren't like visuallyrecorded. Yeah, there's phoners, never
phoners and stuff. I mean,you know, I was fortunate enough to
like interview Obama before while he waspresident over the phone, Hillary Clinton when

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she was running for president, BernieSanders on the phone as well. I
was able to do this, Sothese are phoners, you know. And
then and then I was able tointerview like the Jabbawaukes and Nipsey Hustle and
Cardi B. And then, believeit or not, there's still interviews that
I've never done. You know,I've never interviewed I've interviewed Jay Z once
over the phone when I was inVegas, when I did radio in Vegas,
but that was it. Like JCole interviewed a few times in person

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when when when I was when wewere at Power. But Yeah, there's
still so many people that I'd liketo interview, you know, what's what's
still on the dream list, LikeI've spoken to Kanye, you know,
but like i'd like to interview Kanye, you know, especially since he I
love him so much and and andhe annoys me so much at the same

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time, Like at this point,I was like, bro, like I
got my own problems. I don'tknow what you and I did this are
going through. But I have twokids and and and a fiance girlfriend wife
at home that I got to figureout. So I got and and and
a daily radio show. You know, it's like we're making an album every
day, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, like yay would be
cool. Martha Stewart I think wouldbe funny. Doctor Dre. Yeah,

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Martha Stewart because she's been locked up, dog, we got a lot to
talk about that. And like DoctorDre, I've never had a chance.
I went to see Doctor Dre whenhe do you guys remember when he did
a radio show on Apple called ThePharmacy. Yeah, yeah, So I
was invited to go to the studioand watch him record a show, and
I went and I just stood inthe corner, and I was like,

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I couldn't speak. I get thisway. Jack. You've heard me talk
about my Kobe stories. I getthis way. I talked to so many
people, and we talked to thousands, you know, potentially millions on the
radio every single day. But whenit comes to like certain people, it's
just hard for me. I don'tknow why, because I'm still that fan.
I'm still a child, right so, and you respect him too at

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the end of the day. It'scrazy. And I was brought up like
don't bother people, you know whatI mean. I never want to bother
nobody saying, but like, yeah, like that's this is what what we've
dealt with. But yeah, likedoctor Dre, I remember standing in the
studio while he was conducting. He'sa conductor, and he was, you
know, he's like, what's thatthat Mickey Mouse fantasia? Yeah, when

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he points that lights up and likethat's what he was doing. And everybody
had a role, and I'm justin the corner, honestly, and I
found myself just kind of doing thiseven when the music was off. I'm
just kind of like like I'm justlike in a rhythm with them. And
I thought that was dope. SoI'd like to talk to Dre about so
much. Yeah, obviously there's somuch there, you know. Being you

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know, someone who's been in radioand is obviously interviewed so many people for
so long, you eventually become friendswith these people, right, Yeah.
I guess in a way, I'mnot really good at making friends, ye
know what I mean, And likerelationships are so hard for me. I
don't understand why. Maybe it's justbecause it's a product of my upbringing.
But but yeah, you have to, you know, you you should become

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friends with them, Like I think, like Bootleg keV is really good at
that, he's really good at connectingand really making friends out of these people.
Yeah yeah, or with these people, with these artists and these celebrities.
But yeah, there's a few peoplethat I know that I can call
on, yeah, and they're there. You know. I was gonna ask,
like, you know, especially ina day and age where like tabloids

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are like the number one thing,right, yeah, Like how do you
maneuver between like okay, like thisis a professional relationship slash friend that I'm
working with versus like I know,this is what's hotten in the tabloids and
how do I like balance that.Yeah, there's been moments where we had
Cardi b on once right when wewere doing Mornings, and in the middle
of that, she was going throughit with Nikki and she was also going

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through it with someone from Love andHip Hop, and she was also pregnant
at the time. Bro, Solike, there's a lot going on,
and she's dropping. She was droppingher album of the Privacy album, And
in the middle of the interview,I'm getting notes from interns and Jeff's looking
at me and like, I'm lookingat my phone and I see that it's

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erupting online, like on Twitter andon Instagram, like whatever beef she's got
going, it's erupting. And inthat moment, I have to make a
decision, Right do I bring itup? And do I have a responsibility
to bring it up? Do Ichase that clout I guess right? Or
do I remember that she's pregnant right? Do I remember that? I want

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I want a longer relationship with Cardi, and I want her to come back
and I want her to feel likeour show is a safe, safe space.
And so I decided not to gothere and I left that where it
was on social media in the moment, Like there's been there's been interviews where,
you know, where we've had himat the cruise show and stuff's happening,

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and I'm like, I gotta bringthis up now, you know,
because this is gonna pop later andwe'll be in the middle of it,
you know. But when it comesto like, you know, yeah,
like Cardi was pregnant, and Ididn't want to do that too her,
and she was already stressing out andI can see her tearing up a little
bit because of what she's reading,and yeah, I was just like,
man, I can't do it.Yeah, it's too much of a risk
with very little reward, I think. You know. Yeah, well,

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I mean, you know, wehad we had PJ Bda on like on
the last podcast, and you know, he was going on about his stories
about how like he's got him man, and like people basically saw him as
like, you know, like thefucking god or whatever of his like world,
right, sure, And I thinkwhat we tend to forget is human
beings. Is like you know,we could look at like a Cardi b

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we can look at like a NickiMinaj, and like we could praise them
from so far away, but wealways forget that these people are human beings.
It's very easy to forget right thatthey are human beings, you know.
Yeah, you have to remind yourselfthat, man, they're going through
things too, you know what Imean. I remember some I forget who
it was, and like I waslike, yo, pray for so and

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so. It might have been Yayback in the day and someone I remember
someone going like, yo, bro, like why are you asking for prayers
for the rich? I'm like,Yo, just because they're rich doesn't mean
they don't have issues and they don'tneed a prayer, you know what I'm
saying, Like we should aspire tobe that rich. But like they,
if anything, their issues are deeper, bro, you know, like more

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money, more problems. Like theirissues are issues that would probably break us,
yeah, or could break us,you feel me, Or they have
just had such a much bigger likelike you said, they just have much
bigger problems with it's bigger problems.They have bigger lives, I guess,
right, Yeah, but yeah,we got to remember that they're human beings
at the end of the day.You know, some people you're like,
nah, I don't care. Iknow, I don't care. Dog,

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I'm gonna ask about this because sotoo. Because sometimes, like you have,
like those celebrities or those artists orwhoever be that, like are just
for that type of stuff. Yeah, you know, like I want to
make the headlines. I want toI want to do this. I want
to say something so absurd that it'sgonna catch. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean you you think of like blueFace, right, ask him anything,

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dog, because it doesn't matter.Yeah, he's a human being, but
he's a reckless human being. RayJ is another guy. Ask him anything,
dog, it doesn't matter whatever's goingon, ask him, and you
know, and and so forth.There are a few artists where you just
have to be real and and itis what it is because you're right,
jack That's that's who they are,and that's like the message they bring.
Yea, yeah right, that's beenfucking insane. I mean you literally,

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like Nico said, you've been inthe in the game for how long?
Now? God? I think itwas. I think it's like twenty six
years in radio. That's older thanJackie yo, for real, dog,
for yeah, my career is olderthan Jackie. I have a pillow.
Do we talk about this all thetime. I have a sixteen year old
pillow at home. I'm not lettingthat go. Bro, I'm not letting

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it go. I'm not gonna lie. I have a how old am I
now? I'm thirty? I haveabout like a fifteen sixteen year old pillow
that I just gave to Benny.Really yeah, see it's down, see
Bro, it sits from the land, like you can't get rid of that.
Mine was from Macy's. But stillbut still like, that's my pillow.
The land the other land exactly,and it's a grimy ass pillow,

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but that's my pillow. Though.Oh my god, After you know,
twenty six years in radio, what'sthe biggest, like number one lesson that
you've learned? Would you say?Man, the lesson that I've learned is
don't take anything personal. You know. I used to take so much personal.
And I used to overthink everything.And I still overthink. I mean,

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we're all guilty of that, right, but I literally used to think,
overthink every single detail. And Iused to take everything personal. If
a guest canceled, I took itpersonal. I don't know why because it's
not really because it wasn't because ofme. But there were certain things in
motion throughout my career that that thatI don't know led me that way,

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I guess. But at the endof the day, I blend myself,
you know, and I just Iused to take things very personal. And
it's not necessarily always about you,you know, it really isn't, although
we'd like for it to be attimes. But yeah, sometimes it's just
not necessarily something you can control.And that's another thing. You can't control

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everything, you know. I usedto want to control everything around me and
everyone around me, and I wouldhear certain people say stuff in radio and
I'd be like, I would instantlybe turned off by them and probably wouldn't
talk to them ever again because theyweren't. They weren't at a mental level
that I thought I was. Godforbid if anyone is on my mental level.
But you know, if someone ifI heard someone say no in radio,

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I would instantly judge them, likehow would you say? Why would
you say no? Because I grewup saying yes to everything, and yes
got me everywhere and everything that Ineeded and want. But that's not everyone
as you, you know what I'msaying, Not everyone as you. I
think that's the biggest Like lesson thatI've learned to and I'm still trying to
figure out and like with myself,like this is literally only in July.

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It's about to be only my secondyear on air. That's crazy. Ye
feels like she's been on forever,bro And yeah, and you also have
like you also have a delivery likeyou've been on forever, you know what
I mean. And this is thisjust it's in your DNA, you know,
like like what you do, Nico, it's in your DNA, what
you do Jackets in your DNA,like we're born with something. Yeah,

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And like I think going into likeradio, and I think like the first
time I met Nico and like ourfirst day, I told him like,
yeah, this is what I wantto do. This is what I'm gonna
like, this is this is whatI'm going to do. And when it
finally came down to it and Itold him I'm gonna be on air,
he was just kind of preparing me, like you can't control everything, don't
take things too personal. Even nowlike still it's like, hey, like

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just remember what everyone else got tosay about you, doesn't matter. It's
really just man. I had tolearn that, you know. When I
took over Big when we were atPower, I got ate up, ate
up hard by by social media,by everyone. Everyone had a problem whether
no matter what race. Everybody wason me hard and and they had a

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lot of questions and the routine wasdisrupted. And I get it. My
routine was disrupted. Dog, Butyou're just like, Bro, I can't
say no to this money right here. The gig, Like, that's a
gig that like I dreamed about whenI was, like when I was ten,
Dog, And I remember telling myparents I was going to take over
once Big Boy left, you know, when I was a kid. You
know, I said that and Ibelieved it and I saw it and I

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tasted it, Bro, and Ifelt it before anyone else. Paused pause,
Paul, But yeah, it wassomething that I honestly believed and I
and I it was something that Ihad to make happen. But you know,
nobody saw the years behind that.Everyone just saw the change and felt
the change, and they were prettyangry about it. They were just like,

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who's this random dude coming in?Who is this dude? Who do
you think you are? We don'teven know who you are. I was
on at night and it was itwas really bad everything from my looks to
like to how I sounded to everything. And I get it. People don't
like change, you know. Changeis one of the hardest things to get
comfortable with, especially with our listeners. Especially our listeners have a routine,

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and their routine is to survive,and when you disrupt that, that's an
issue because you you are then partof their survival. Yeah, because you
know, like I mean, atleast all three of us know, and
hopefully people on this podcast, butlike you know, people who are like
diehard radio fans, like they feellike they're really a part of your life.
Jackie will tell me so many timesabout like what was the dude Youndo

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Mondo Mondo? He calls and justwants to argue with jack you know what
I mean. And it's not likea disrespectful it's just a meeting of the
minds dog and a disagreement, andhe pretty much disagrees with everything Jackie says.
But he, you know, hebrings that to the table and we
welcome it, you know, aslong as it's not disrespectful, you know
what I mean. And Mondo isn't, you know, but if it's a

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if it's a if it can createa healthy, funny conversation, yeah,
let's have it. And that's anotherthing too, It's like you never want
to take that person. I rememberwhen Jackie first started with us, she
dealt with some hate and a coupleof things here and there, and I
remember telling jack like, none ofit matters. Trust me, I've been
through it, and I went throughit. I literally went through it.
And on the other side, Irealized that it's it doesn't matter. It

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really doesn't. It matters in themoment because it hurts and you feel like
you're being attacked, and you arebeing attacked, but you have to know
that on the other side, man, it just fizzles away. And I
feel like to like, especially likethis day and age of radio, like
now adding social media on top ofeverything. Ye, like everyone has access
to everyone has access to what youlook like to to go and give their

(20:03):
a personal opinion directly to you.Yeah. Yeah, you could block someone's
call if you wanted to, Like, if they were they wanted to talk
shit on you on area, sure, Yeah, but like now that they
can just look you up on socialmedia, people can doc to you if
they wanted to, Like, it'sinsane. Oh yeah, And can you
imagine like deep fakes and ai now, like there could be a video of

(20:23):
Jackie out tomorrow saying something crazy andit's not her. Yeah, yeah,
and now you're defending it, Yeah, something that's not even real, you
know, And you can say that'snot real, guys, but you still
have to defend it because there's anew person looking at it every minute and
you have to answer to them too. You know. It's just it's just

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a constant. It's a vicious cycle. Man. What would is the most
like, I guess the hardest thingadding social media on top of radio,
keeping up with it. I think, you know, keeping up with everything,
and you know, that's an audienceas well, and a lot of
times it's the same audience. Sometimesyou just have a social media audience,

(21:06):
you know, so you're almost puttingon a show for them as well.
But but yeah, I think justkeeping up with social media and also being
very careful. And what we dois we want to have fun. We
like to have fun. I liketo say funny things, you know what
I mean. I'll say something thatmay come off a bit brash or hopefully
not disrespectful, but maybe a bittoo much and the alto look at Jackie.
I'll be like, yeah, maybeI'm just saying this. I'm just

(21:30):
saying this to like stir it up, you know what I mean. I'll
be like I'd be like, that'snot true, and I'm like, you
know, because I'm just trying tocreate and I'm trying to like create emotion.
But yeah, just being careful withwhat you say, you don't you
know, everyone is so ready towell, a lot of people are so
ready to be offended. And livingin that is you know, it's like

(21:52):
an obstacle course every day with whatyou say. Well, we live in
such a PC culture right now.And I say that even in comparison to
like what you've been through because youstart radio, like back in the nineties
and even like two thousands, whenI started listening to radio, you could
get away with so much ship.But nowadays, it's like it's very hard
to even like get a thought outwithout someone feeling like, you know,
they're attacking you. Yeah, youknow, when I was I'm about the

(22:17):
name drop, when I when Betty'sgonna pick it up? Now? When
when I spoke to Barack Obama,dog, I had one question they only
allowed one question, and it wasbasically I had to like welcome him,
right, thank you for calling misterpresident. And then I had to kind
of like walk him into his agenda, and they emailed us the agenda.

(22:38):
He had an agenda that he wantedto talk about and it was the Nevada
vote, so you we had tolike let him do that, right,
So it wasn't like an interview.Yeah, yeah, yeah, let me
be the president, dog, andyou gotta respect that. And they're like,
you have one question at the end, right, And I'm like,
oh my god, what's my onequestion to the President of the United States

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of America? Dog? Like onequestion? That foul dog? Like come
on? And then I'm thinking,do I do a two parter? You
know what I mean? Do Ido that like kind of snake my way
around? Yeah? And then I'mlike, no, I'm just gonna go
with my original question, and Isaid, mister President, does Michelle Obama
call you mister president in the bedroom? Right? Bro? So imagine asking

(23:22):
that now. People would be like, you're an idiot, You're stupid.
That's a stupid question, and itis a stupid question, but it was
my my brand, Like I wantedto be funny and I wanted to kind
of take him out of the elementfor a little bit. Guard down,
put the guard down. And he'sthe president, he should be able to
do that, right, And Iasked him, I said, does does
Michelle call you mister president in thebedroom? And he goes, oh,

(23:44):
no, but she does call meother things. I said, good enough,
good enough for me, yes,sir, you know, and that
was it. But like, canyou imagine that now? People would probably
eat me a lot for that.They probably want you to ask a more
political questions just like, well,that's not what it is you have in
the United States American You couldn't askabout gas prices or groceries or an exit
an exit plan, or you couldn'ttalk about Hamas or Israel or right Like,

(24:08):
I'm like, he gets those questionsevery single day. Yeah, dog,
Like, I'm not. I'm notgonna go there, you know what
I mean. I'm not on CNN. I'm the DJ on their personality named
Jay Cruise with half a brain,you know what I mean. So like
I'm going for what I know,you know, speaking of like you know
on air personality named Jake. Ithought you were gonna say, speaking of

(24:30):
half a brain, no, halfbrain, do you remember? No?
Speaking of like J Cruz the name. How many names did you go through?
Man? So like when I firststarted doing like mock radio shows in
my bedroom, I was like Iwas Jay Rock right uh? And then
from j Rock Uh, well,I was Jay Rock. And then I

(24:51):
used to call the Baker Boys allthe time and they used to put me
on the air. And there wasa DJ I think he's in the be
Junkies named Jay Rock. Yeah.Yeah, yeah. He like yelled at
me me on the air and he'slike that's my name. And I was
like punk the ship out of me, dog and okay, I was like
sixteen years old, dog and Iand I was just like okay, well
but it changed my name. Andthen there's Jay Rock the rapper. So
there's place Jay Rock the rapper.Yeah yeah, you go check him Dog

(25:15):
from Watts Dog good Luck. Butyeah, so like it was Jay Rock
and then it was J Noise fora very long time for years and over
ten years. Some people I'll stillcall you that call me. Yeah,
Like I'll call certain people and they'relike noise, you know what I mean.
Or they'll be like yo, bro, it still says noise when you
call me. I'm like, I'mthe phone on the call, I D
which is fine, that's all good. But from when I got to la

(25:37):
Uh, the program director was like, yeah, Noise just sounds like a
rock name. Like maybe it's time, and I'm always up for change.
I like change, you know,because it was hard. It's hard for
me, so like I I liketo I like to challenge you. I
like to yeah, excuse me.I like John myself and I like to
meet it like face to face.So we were going through names and it

(26:00):
was like Jay Lopez, Jay Diaz, Jay Cruise, and I like,
I have a Latino sounding name,but that name was already taken, so
you know, and it's a stagename. It's Hollywood, it's radio,
it's it's it's it's it's media.So I always knew that these were just
nicknames or stage names, you know. But I didn't like you didn't feel
like any like sort of way becauseI did like leaning Latino. I did

(26:23):
well. I wanted to keep itas Noise, right, and I remember
pretty much the job was if youwant it, you have to change your
name. If not, like,I don't think this is for you.
And it pretty much came to that. And I remember Garcia, who was
our current producer, called me andlike, for like two days, I

(26:44):
was like dodging their calls because Ididn't want to like talk about the name
change. And and I remember Garciawas just like, Bro, like you
gotta do it, Like, Bro, pull the trigger now, bro,
because I'm getting like I'm getting toldthat. I got to convince you.
And and and I we settled onCruise, and I remember a Big Boy
was like, yo, Bro,like, do you want to be J
Noise out of a gig? BecauseI had lost my job in in Vegas

(27:10):
because I came to audition for lA. They were and Big was like,
yo, do you want to beJ Noise without a job? Or
J Cruse from from Power? AndI was like, yeah, I guess
you're right. That was perspective.Dog. I was like, I guess
you're right. And you know Iwas telling Jeff. I was like,
I took a deep breath and Iwas just like cause at first I thought
it was kind of corny, andI was like, I don't like J
Cruise, man, But I'm like, I know me and I can turn

(27:32):
that around. I can make itsound I can say it enough to myself
where it just sounds comfortable, andI'll make everyone else comfortable with it.
And I'm like, and I rememberthinking, like I haven't gotten started yet,
but my name is going to belike the the secondary thing. What
what I'll be known for is whatI'm gonna do, not not for my
name, you know. So Iembraced it so much that I want to

(27:53):
legally add cruise to my name.And I gave Cruise to my son as
well. It's middle name, myoldest so it's on paper now, you
know what I mean. So likeif I'm gonna commit to it, I'm
committing to a doll, you knowwhat I mean. The government's getting involved.
That's how much I'm getting papers now, That's how much I'm committed though,
And like I've told this Taniko,and I've told this to pass guests

(28:15):
too, where like I feel likeI kind of fucked up why because I
put my full government out there.I've like literally, I'm like, it's
very brave. It is brave,and it's like and I but like ever
since I started, like you know, like hosting in front of a camera
or anything that it was twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, twenty seventeen, and

(28:37):
so ever, like since the verybeginning, it's always like I want people
to know that it's me, LikeI'm Jackie. Yeah, you're marriage right,
that's I'm gonna make a name forthis name. For sure. My
parents gave me. I think inyour space it makes sense. Though,
it makes sense. I've seen otherbroadcasters use their name. I've seen other
women in broadcasting use their name,and I think I think it's fitting.

(29:00):
Number One, I don't think you'regonna put yourself in any situation where that's
going to be a problem, althoughsometimes you may not want to go down
that direction. But there's there's somecrazy people out there, you know what
I mean that that that we'll findthat we'll find out everything about you because
your name is out there, right, But yeah, I mean I don't,
I don't. I don't see anylike I don't see you in any

(29:22):
kind of danger because of your name. But it is brave to like go
out there and use your full name. Yeah, Like it's like it's really
out there, no for real,Yeah, Like it could have easily been
it could have, excuse me,easily been Jackie Diaz or like, you
know, just to kind of switchit up or use your middle name and
your last name or reverse it,or was considering that though. I think

(29:45):
Daniel think I was well because mymiddle name is Danielle, and I've always
wanted to like Jackie, Danielle workstoo, yeah, and so like I've
always wanted even growing up. Ithink in middle school I tried getting people
instead to call me Jackie to callme Danny. I've always wanted right right
right, and it was just like, you know, like I tried so

(30:06):
hard to get and I even toldNico when we first started Dan I was
like, yeah, at some pointwhen I was like a teenager, I
said, when I turn eighteen,I'm gonna make Danielle my first name,
okay, and I want to makethat my first legal name. And then
it was just too much paperwork.So I was like, Okay, never
mind, there's a lot of paperwork. Yeah, I was like, okay,
but yeah, for a long time, I really want to go by
my middle name, which or Danny. Yeah. So like, so let's

(30:30):
say I don't know jack ten fifteenyears down the line, you get a
gig and they suggest the name changeare you down? Are you Are you
good for that? That's a question, like probably not. It'll feel like
you're starting over. Yeah, it'llfeel but you're not. But you're not
because your face is the same.That's true. I feel like I feel

(30:52):
like I'm gonna do so much inthat time that it's gonna be like you'll
have so much built up as JackiRamirez built up as Jackie America. Yeah,
I don't know if I would considerI may just add something to Jackie
and just drop like my last name. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot
of actors that came into the gameand with one name and now we know

(31:14):
them as something else. Like thathappens too, you know, or their
name was just kind of morphed intolike the name that that it sounds like
now, but they were something closeto it when they first got started.
Or you get really oh, goahead, like Donald Glover, I mean
like some people know him, youknow, as Childish Gambino and people know
him as Donald's a thing. Andyou might get lucky and just be like

(31:37):
Miguel Man is how easy is that? Just like that's easy, right,
It's easy, And there's like,yeah, there's no problem there it's easy.
Yeah, one name, I mean, but like I don't know,
like the one name is tough topull off to way you gotta be like
the best. It's now what youdo, Bro, gonna be the main

(32:00):
miguel. You got to produce likethe main miguel because there's out there a
thousand percent so many like years ofexperience, because you have the craziest fucking
stories and have there's been so many. Yeah, I don't know, and
if you, I don't know ifyou, but there was one that you
said that in Vegas where you likeVegas was a crazy time. He's like,

(32:24):
which story are you talking about?A million years? Bro? And
lobby one the lobby, Yeah,what happened the hose? One more time?
Hold on the lobby hose? Yeah? What happened the water where you
just kind of like fucked it likeall up the lobby. Oh hose like
the man get us. I wasn'tsure what kind of hose. Okay,

(32:50):
wait what did I do? Youhad said that like and no, no,
no, okay, where you hadlike flooded the like lobby, yeah,
because you were so pissed, Yeah, upset. You know what I'm
saying. And I'm just like,yeah, like I'm doing this, Like
I flooded the lobby. I justgot a hose and I just like,
you know, all around the room. I was bored. I was trying
to create content. I don't knowwhat I was doing pretty much. I

(33:14):
remember, I remember, yeah,I did that. God man, I
did that. Luckily there was nolike real damage, you know what I'm
saying. But but sheesh. Iremember donuts were delivered to the radio station
and sales was having a meeting,and sales wasn't really paying attention to me.
And I'm doing mornings and I'm tryingto get sold. I'm trying to
create bits I took out. Itook a bite out of twenty four donuts.

(33:37):
One bite out of twenty four donuts. I closed the box and I
put it right back. So whenthey came out of their meeting and they
opened up the box, it wasboxes of donuts with bikes all on them.
Oh you're you're a bad boy.I'm a bad boy. I remember.
I remember I got everyone's paycheck andI opened it up and I put
like I just I put them onthe door open so everyone can see what

(33:57):
everyone's making. And I remember puttinglike mcdonnald's applications in everybody's boxes. Yeah,
just crazy stuff. I remember Isent my guy in Chilada Eddie,
right. He yeah, he's fourhundred pounds inchilaud of Eddie, my guy
man, Yeah, great name.Right. So he he like told me
like he's like, hey, canI come with you? I was hosting
the club. He's like, youknow, he's always wanted to host the

(34:19):
club or whatever. Right, So, like I remember live, I sent
him to the subway. Sandwich isnext door, and I'm on the phone
with him and we're live on theair, and I'm like, yo,
just act like you're hosting the clubright now at subway, everybody hands up,
right, And he did that,and they thought he was robbing the
place. So people are now screaming, the cops are on their way,

(34:42):
the subway locks the doors, andhe cause he's going everybody hands up.
That See, that's where he messedup. He messed up when he said
everybody hands up, because now everybodythinks, what do you think you're getting
robbed club set or in a subway? And then I'm like, no,
you have to like put a smileon your face and act hype and he's

(35:02):
like, hands up, put yourhands up, put your hands up.
I'm like, that sounds worse.And you hear this lady screaming. That
was a pregnant lady who almost wentinto labor because she got so scared.
The cops came. He was hewas detained, and we got in trouble,
man, you know what I'm saying. And it was all bad.
There was. There was two moreinstances so and then the other time.

(35:24):
I remember this all in Vegas.Yeah, I went on the air April
Fools and this is why I don'tplay April Fools jokes no more. I
remember I read this fake facts thatwe got from the school board, and
we made it sound so serious.It was crazy. I don't know how
we did it, but we managedto make it sound so real and so

(35:45):
authentic and scary. And we basicallysaid, the schools in Nevada there will
be a tuition. The public schoolsare now will be treated as private when
it comes to tuition. So there'sparents out there that really believed that and
freaked out. The school got Therewas a school that got threatened by a
parent to do some damage at theschool. If that happens a superintendent call

(36:07):
me, yelled my head off,like just ripped me apart, and I
was just apologizing. The news wasoutside of the radio station. My program
director of the time wouldn't allow meto talk to the news because they were
like, dude, you're gonna messthis up even more. Look what you've
done. Like shut up right,keep your mouth shut. No one's gonna
see you or talk to you.Go back to the corner and be quiet.

(36:30):
I'm just like, let me talkto him and make it and apologize.
They were like, hell, no, you're gonna make this worse.
And probably I would have, youknow. Yeah, but yeah, that
was a problem, and it wason the news, and you know,
I had there was a police reportand I had to be investigated and talked
to me and I had to goto the police station and yeah, and
it just went over everyone's head thatit was April first. Yeah, and

(36:52):
I said it was April fool's jokeand I lay like that. And then
the same thing we said, enchiladaEddie. We did this thing called relationship
repo where we would send Eddie togo pick up the stuff that your ex
has of yours. Good. Solike we needed to pick up some rims
we needed to pick up, likea PlayStation and like some medications. So

(37:12):
like Eddie knocks on the door andwe're live on the air, and you'd
think like I would record it,right, No, we're gonna do this
live. So he knocks on thedoor. The guy opens and Eddie's trying
to you know, trying to tellhim what he's there for. And he's
like stumbling all over the place becausethe guy apparently was very scary. The
guy puts his shotgun in Enchilau toEddie's face. Eddie shits himself literally and

(37:37):
I was written up and find forthat at the radio station. For doing
that week. We put Eddie's lifein danger and it was life on the
air. How long were you atthis station? I was there for over
ten years and find find eight thousanddollars in those ten years. Yeah,

(37:58):
so pretty much one thousand dollars ayear. Like it was a few years
where I was lucky. But thefirst two years you're like, I'm just
gonna be quiet. And then yeah, you know why man, because they
hired me to do overnights and Idid overnights and and and that was okay.
I was willing to do overnights.It's it's Vegas, right, And
then I don't know. I justwanted I just wanted to create. And

(38:19):
I grew up listening to Howard Sternand other great radio shows that that created
bits. And this was like,you know, old school radio was full
of that, full of radio bitsand like radio wars and and and bits
that would get you in trouble.Do you guys hear did you guys hear
about the hold your Wii for aWii? That person died? So remember
when the Wi's were a big thing. So they did a contest this uh

(38:40):
this station, I think it's Sacramento, maybe wrong, and they made people
drink water and you had to holdyour pee you couldn't pee, and the
person who holds their pe the longestwins a WI. So this person held
it on so long they died.We never heard from this morning show again.
But my god, these are thekind of things that were going on,
bro, just sick, twisted bits. And I wanted to be a

(39:02):
part of that. And yeah,I was telling Jackie the other day an
old radio bit like butt bucks.Right. Oh yeah, So we get
a bunch of station money and wethrow it on the floor and we would
have like Leche with his bare ass. Right, this is something we would
do, not something we did do. But I was telling Jack, this
is like an old radio bit,and we would have letcha or you know,

(39:22):
whoever is in that position, theywould pick up as much as they
can with their cheeks, and that'show much we would give out to the
winner. You know, this remindI think you might have told me about
that, because I have a verykind of similar story. So me and
my friends, mind you, Iwas like fourteen fifteen, right right,
we played this thing. Yeah,we played this thing called pooh Dollar.

(39:45):
Have you heard a poo dollar?No? Oh, you did tell me
about This wasn't even for the radio. This was just this was them at
an all boys high school. Thiswas just fuckery at its finest in high
school. So what we would doin pood dollar is you would basically have
could take a dump in a dollaror twenty or whatever it was, and
then just leave it on the floorfor someone to pick up. And you

(40:07):
guys would hide behind a bush orsomething to see who picked it up.
So at this small it was atStone'stown Mall in San Francisco, ceremonial mall.
Definitely not. I've never been there, but I've heard you talk about
it. So Pino Central, Bro, is it really Yeah? Stone Stown's
kind of like white Boy Central.Okay. So what we would do was

(40:29):
so we I took a crap ina dollar, like a very small amount
of crap, right, So Iplaced it on the floor and then you
could go upstairs and you could watchfrom like a balcony to see who would
like pick it up? Right,So first person tried to pick it up,
and then they immediately open it upand said like, nah, this
ain't it right? Yeah, Andthen next thing, you know, maybe

(40:51):
like a minute later, I seethis. It was a little girl,
it was, bro. It waslike a five or six year old,
bro. And it's like keeping yesslow motion. She just picks it up.
She said, Mom, I founda dollar and she put it directly
in her pocket. And I said, now she got poop pocket? Yes,
No, were you feel me this? No? We were just watching

(41:13):
it for entertainment. Bro. Itwas like freaking the Nokia phones. We
can film anything. This was justfor your entertainment. Yes, amazing.
I want to do that at iHeart, Like in the hallway just to see
who picks it up or just putlike like a chocolate in there, because
then HR is gonna do something that'sright, We're gonna somehow DNA. HR
is the worst thing that happened toradio. You mentioned Radio Wars and all

(41:40):
that. Yeah, do you thinkthat now? It's just like, what
the is the point as far aswhat like radio Wars? No, Like,
a part of me still like Istill want that smoke, you know
what I'm saying. I brought himup earlier. Bootleg keV was also really
good at radio Wars. I rememberhearing about the stuff that he did in
Phoenix, uh while it was happening, and he was doing some wild like

(42:00):
some wild stuff, and I wassending people out like and a lot of
Eddie and certain people like to dosome crazy stuff as well. Sometimes,
like the Radio Wars would go toofar and they would like they would want
to fight, like at it youVans, and it's like yo, bro
to the fuck out. Yeah,but a part of me is still like
I still have that, you know, I still have that's the radio guy.

(42:22):
And I believe that some of it'snecessary, you know, and it
depends on the market. Like inNew York. It's different. Radio wars
are different. They're they're saying people'snames and it's crazy dog. Yeah,
Like out here it's not that play, you know, which I'm thankful for
because all that stuff is just it'sa lot of unnecessary stress. But sometimes

(42:44):
I'm like whatever, yeah, likewhat's the point. And then in some
instances I'm like nah, Dog,like nah, bro, yeah, like
it just needs to be said orneeds to be done, or you know,
it needs to be protected. Asfar as what we do, you
know what we deal with that,Jack, You know a lot. We
deal with these silent radio wars thatgo on and maybe they're just in our

(43:08):
heads, you know what I mean. But there's certain things that that need
to be protected, you know whatI mean. And there's like certain things
I don't play, you know,h Yeah, I don't play about when
it comes to certain things. Wasthere were there any like radio wars when
it came to like you and Big, Because I remember when I joined Real
ninety two to three. It wasin twenty sixteen when Reel was like just

(43:30):
enough actually twenty seventeen somewhere around there, right Real was just announced. I
remember, you know, you endup becoming the morning show at Power.
Big ends up becoming the morning showat Real you guys co workers at one
point, Yeah, you know whatI mean. And then to see you
go over to reel like a coupleof years later, like, how has
that relationship been, because there's beena lot of it just seems like from

(43:52):
the outside looking in, there's alot of like tug and war and then
camaraderie. Yeah. Yeah, youknow, Big is and still is an
inspiration of mine. When I heardBig on the radio, I immediately knew
that's this is what I want todo. When I heard Big, I
heard other DJs. You know,my dad would listen to the radio a
lot as well. He would turnit up on the DJ talk that I
always thought that was interesting. Iwanted my dad's attention, but the dude

(44:15):
don't care. That's my dad's attention. So I remember thinking like, I
want my dad's attention, like andso I remember thinking like that was important.
And I heard other DJs talk onthe radio. But when I heard
hip hop radio station, I heardBig Boy and I heard the Baker Boys,
I immediately knew that this was goingto be my life, not my

(44:37):
career. This was going to bemy life. Wow. And I remember,
you know, telling my parents thatI was going to be on LA
radio one day, and you know, to their credit, they were like,
okay, yeah, you know,they didn't discourage me or nothing like
that. They were like, that'scool, all right, we'll see you
know, and you know, theyallowed me to do my radio shows in
my bedroom. They didn't know whatI was doing, but they knew I
was doing something towards something. Andwhen I got to work with Big,

(45:00):
it was crazy in the same building. I was just like, whoa,
Like, I felt like I caughtup right and then yeah, then that
change happened and he left, andI'm not gonna front like, I can't
lie. I was also very disappointedand very sad to see him leave because
I just thought it's one of thoseguys you thought would be there forever,
right, But he left, andwhen I had to get over that,

(45:24):
and I had, you know,I had the task at replacing him,
which was a dream of mine,right, just not the way it happened.
But you can't control that, right. So me, being the competitive
person I am, I admittedly createdthat that radio war between him and I.

(45:45):
It was honestly one sided dogs.He's a legend, and I have
no business going up against someone likeBig Boy. But you know, I
was being fed certain things and justthe way I am amplified that, you
know, there's no one to blamefor what the kind of things that I

(46:05):
was trying to stir up and nothingdangerous. I was just being very competitive
and I was being told certain thingsand it's just amplified who I was and
who I am. And I'm competitiveby nature and that can get ugly sometimes
and I have to check that.I've checked that live in front of Jackie.
I've checked that privately as well.But there's a part of me that

(46:25):
just wants to bury you if ifwe're if we're competing against each other,
and I don't want you to havea job, and I don't want you
to eat off this, and Ithink I'm better, and you know,
and I've had to confront that becauseI have children now too, you know,
and I have people like Jackie whoare just getting into the game that

(46:46):
I can't necessarily tarnish. You know, Lecha is a good, good,
good shield for that. When Isay shield, like you know, when
I throw that out, he's kindof like okay, pretty more like no,
bro, like, I'm not reallylike that, And he kind of
puts it into a different perspective.Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
And he puts it in a perspectivelike, all right, maybe it's not
that serious, right, but inmy head or in my heart it is.

(47:08):
But yeah, there was like thisenergy that I was creating between Big
and I that I that I regretnow. But you know, there's still
a part of me that that isstill a competitor in this game. And
I don't think I'll ever lose that. I think that's my edge. Well.
I think that goes back to likethe Filipino and Mexican shit, right,

(47:29):
like we want to be the bestat like whatever we do. No
Filipinos are competitive, dog, youknow what I mean. They're competitive,
but they're also very humble, whichis dangerous because you're like, all right,
he seems harmless, but no,this dude is not harmless. Yea
the silent killers man. Yeah,like like Latinos, you know, your
killers come with smiles, dog,you know your killer dog. I feel

(47:53):
like that's how like I am too, Like in a in a way when
No Jack your competitive, yeah,Like I mean you and I have talked
to about it that we're pretty wekind of have some of the same like
characteristics when it comes to being competitiveaboutely, like I'm gonna I'm gonna be
the best, and I want tobe the best, like no one ever
was. Yeah, and like andthat, like if somebody fucks with me,

(48:15):
I'm gonna fuck with them back.Yeah, we're gonna yeah, we're
gonna bark back, and we're alsogonna bite, and we're also gonna try
to scratch your eyes out and embarrassyou and then win bury and then bury
you. Right, Like, it'scrazy. It's crazy. I need to
see a shaman priest or some ayahuashkahyahuasca. Bro, I'm down, but
I'm not down. I'm very down. Really. But I heard you shoot

(48:37):
yourself you can, yeah, Sodon't go in there. You shut out
all your toxins, all right,I'm okay with that. You literally get
the toxicity. I heard. It'sa religious experience, though, Man,
I just worry about it unlocking otherthings that may be wrong with crazy that
are tucked in that they should betucked in. Well, I mean,

(48:57):
if you forget names, you forgetpeople. Yeah, So no, I'm
forgetting a lot of shit. That'swhy I'm worried. Man. I'm like,
I'm forgetting a lot of things.I'm tripping. But I think that
comes from not stopping and realizing,uh, what just happened or what is
happening, whether it's good or bad. Right, we kind of just we're
Latinos, like I saw in thelast episode, like parents don't you know,

(49:22):
our parents don't don't say sorry,you know what I mean? And
I think what that creates in us. And my dad, yeah, like
wouldn't talk to me for a weekwhen I needed him the most. It's
crazy, but my dad gave methe silent treatment many times growing up,
and I hated that, right,I hated that. But I think what
that did was that created something inme to where I just kind of have

(49:42):
to block out certain things, whetherit's good and bad. And I just
got to keep moving. I gottakeep moving because by next week, my
dad's gonna talk to me. Iknow it. So let me just get
this week out the way and forgetabout everything I'm doing, whether it's good
or bad. So question, consideringyou are a Latino dad of too,
yeah, like, what are somethings that should do differently in comparison to

(50:04):
you know, your dad before.I'd like to think everything, but there's
also certain things that I've done andI've felt like my dad and I heard
my dad and I was like,Okay, I gotta switch that. I
gotta switch that, Like I gottastop saying I'll give you something to cry
about. I have to stop sayingthat because my dad not only said it,
he also demented and he put itin the motion dog, you know.

(50:25):
But yeah, there's certain things.You know, my dad wasn't too
affectionate. You know, my kidsthat all they hear is I love you.
All they hear is I love you. You know. My dad and
my mom as well, weren't likethe effects of the time. They weren't
hugging me. They weren't telling mehow handsome. They didn't lie to me
and say how handsome I was orhow smart I am. They were very
honest, you know what I mean, and they they told me exactly who

(50:46):
I was. But that's something thatI've created at home, is is like
love from dad, you know,and and appreciation. And I tell my
kids, you know, you guysare the best thing that's happened to Dad.
I love you boys. I loveyou guys. It's gotten to the
point where, like my son's inthe first grade and he it's it's a
lot for him, Like he's like, all right, dad, you know

(51:07):
so especially at school with you wantI mean you want that though, because
like as much as it is embarrassinghim in that moment, for the rest
of their lives, and I don'tcare. And I've created a thing too,
like son, when when I dothis, that means I love you
in front of your friends or infront at school or you know. So
I'm like when I say when Ido this, it's like I love you,
okay, and so do it back, you know. So I've created

(51:30):
that. I remember my dad wasdropping me off and I'm in the seventh
grade, and back then it wasI think it was sixth grade, elementary,
seventh was middle school, and thenfour So my first day seventh grade,
I got the bubble guts. I'mso nervous. I'm so nervous.
I need a talk. I needa conversation with my dad about this.
And my Dad's like, what's wrong, because you know, I think he

(51:52):
saw me or heard me in theback of the car, like just and
it's always angry like that, what'swrong, Yeah, what's wrong? It's
like a person already, and I'mlike, I'm just nervous, and he's
like, well, i'm late.Get out of the car, you know
what I'm saying, Like he's gotto go to work. And he's like,
you're nervous and I'm late, Like, Joe, get out because we
got to go. So I justgot out the car. I really needed

(52:13):
a pep talk. I really neededmy dad to be like, it's gonna
be fine. You're a great kid, don't worry about it. You're gonna
make friends before you know it.I know it's a new school, it's
scary, there's bigger kids. Yourbrother's there, so don't worry about it.
No, it was none of that. It was like, yo,
basically, stop being a push toget out the car because I'm you know
what I mean. So like therewasn't like conversation with my dad like that.
You know. My dad's also verycompetitive for whatever reason, because he

(52:36):
never competed in nothing. And he'salso very He can be very negative and
uh and very funny in that wayas well. I think that's what gave
him his sense of humor. Butyeah, like you know, my kids
we have we have open line communicationand they know they can talk to me
about anything. And I'm not Idon't call them stupid or I don't I
don't diminish their feelings with yeah yeayea yeah yeah yeh ye. Like no,

(53:00):
like we're gonna have a conversation.You're gonna tell me how you feel
if you hear Daddy say something thatmakes you question Dad, or you can
ask me about it, you know, Like the dad yelled at an old
man bro because he so like soCarson, my youngest, was like making
a lot of noise. We're outside, and he looked at Carson, and

(53:21):
the old man didn't realize I wasthere. He just thought Diana and the
kids were there. And he goes, hey, like you know, and
you don't know my kid to shushhim, you know what I'm saying,
But I get it. He wason the phone, and he was on
the phone because so Diana got inhis face. You don't shush my kid.
You know, you can tell meyou know what I mean, or
you can you know, And hetells that. He tells Diana, okay,

(53:43):
bye bye bye and kind of wavesher off, and it kind of
gave me like a you know,he was a foreigner, so like it
was like it was like women arebeneath him, like go go, he
goes, look go go go.So then I turned around, I like
got in his face and immediately shookright A big fucking Mexican guy looking at
him now. So he's like,oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Like you know now, he's liketrying to moonwalk back right every play right,

(54:06):
And I was like, yo,I'll fuck you up right now,
motherfucker. You know what I'm saying. And he was so fucking scared.
And Cameron, my son, mysix year old, heard me say that
to this old man and my dadand I mean my dad, see there,
that's what's something my dad would do, like he would. I grew
up watching my dad. If youhunked at my dad, my dad would
park the car, get out,rip you out of the car, and
just start fighting in the street.So I grew up like waking up from

(54:30):
the back seat from a nap andmy dad is like beating some dude up
and I'm just crying because I don'tknow what's going on, and my dad.
My dad gets in the car.He's like, is that been?
Like you on ice cream? AndI'm punning he's bleeding. I'm just like,
what is going on? Like whyis my dad beating people up?
That hunk at him? So,you know, Cameron was like, why

(54:50):
did you yell at that old man? You know he's a grandpa, he
told me, and I was like, I go, you know what's son,
I that's very irresponsible of me toyell at him. He is older.
I should be more patient, especiallywith older people like pops and grandma,
right, and your papa and yournana. You never want to like
scare older people and you want torespect him. They've been on this planet
for a long time. Now.I'm over explaining, right because I feel

(55:13):
bad, Right, But I'm like, but I was protecting your brother and
mother, and I don't care howold you are. If I'm protecting you
guys and your mother, then Iwill have to do and say what I
need to Son, you know,I said, but you don't necessarily have
to do that. Let dad dothat. You know. So there's there's
like moments like that where I wouldhave never had those conversations with my dad
because there just wasn't communication like that, you know those other kids defeat and

(55:36):
worry about. But yeah, likeyou know when when when I say doing
things differently is you know, justhaving open an open line of communication with
my kids and them hearing I loveyou till you know, from the beginning
of the day to the end ofthe day. You know, they're gonna
hear it, They're gonna feel it, you know. Yeah, I tried
buying their love, but that doesn'twork, you know what I'm saying.

(55:59):
And it's just something you don't break, something you on rip, you gotta
do it again. It's like yougotta say. And time is the gift,
right like time, like being there, you know what I mean.
Like you know, Jack, Iknow you had your issues with parents,
and you know, Nick, I'msure you did as well. But they
were there. Yeah, yeah,they were there, you know what I'm
saying. And my parents were theretoo, as much as they could be,
you know what I mean, Butthey were they were there for for

(56:22):
for whatever reason. If I gotjumped, and it happened a few times
growing up where I grew up,Yeah, like my brothers and my parents,
they'd go out there and they'd protectme and you know, and they
would, they would jump the foodsright back, you know what I'm saying.
And to me like that was likethat was love, Like Okay,
they do love me, they dolove me, but you gotta be there.

(56:42):
You gotta spend time, you know, And that's what it's about.
Time time time. Yeah, that'sit's so nice to see that though,
like that, those cycles are noware breaking. Yeah. Yeah, and
we have to and you'll see you'llbreak some two. You know, you'll
have to. You're not gonna You'renot gonna give your kids Tyland treatment.
You're not doing that because you knowwhat that's like. And you don't want

(57:04):
that for them, you know whatI'm saying. And they don't deserve that,
honestly. You know, wanted meto take a pregnancy test on air
the other I did, man,because she was throwing up in coffin.
I would have been fouled it becauseI know I didn't do nothing. She
was like no, no, no, no, I'm like, yo,
just take a pregnancy on the air. That'd be crazy. Pullout Game shan
Man Stupid Well, Ladies and Gentlemen, Episode one hundred. I wouldn't much

(57:30):
rather that happen. Look, Itell Jackie some of my favorite like podcasts
and interviews when I'll have to sayship so I'm like i just switched the
fucking button and I'm doing. It'sgreat to have like guests on right,
even you know when we do theCruise show, like we always know like,
oh they were a good guest,bro because you ask them something and
they just go on forever. Yeah, And it's not like a board.
We've had those two where they justgo on and on and on. But

(57:52):
there's like there's some people that justhave that and can like engage in a
good conversation and it just before youknow, you've been talking for forty minutes.
Yeah, well fifty eight minutes hotly. Yes, it was cool.
I'm sweating, I'm talking so much. No, it's good man. Well,
these two got to go to work, and thank you so much for
everybody for yeah, thank you everybodyfor listening to Mixed Pino Podcast Episode one

(58:14):
hundred. Thank you guys, man. Congratulations, Yes, sir, guys
are awesome. Man, it's love, Thank you, thank you. Did
you want to close it up?Yeah? My name is Nico Bliss.
I'm I'm j Cruz. Peace out, y'all. Yeah,
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