#102 - Diddy & Quiet On The Set

SENSITIVE TOPIC: We talk about the latest news with Diddy, the Nickelodeon docuseries Quiet on The Set and Drake Bell.

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Episode Transcript

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Cut musta not kayo Ola, everyone, what's popping? Everybody? My name
is Nico Blitz. Jack you're Mary, and welcome to another episode of the
Mexicano podcast. We're here and forewarning, this is going to be a very
sensitive topic type podcast. Yeah,we will be discussing topics such as sexual
assault, sexual harassment, and thingsinvolving minors. So please just keep that

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in mind. Our stances on itare very much Obviously, you guys will
see that we do not condone anyof this and this is purely just us
talking about certain subjects that have beencoming to light in the media recently about
several different people and companies. Yeah. So honestly, if you do have

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like kids around, this might bea podcast that you might want to keep
to yourself or you know, Imean, I wouldn't want to say this.
It might be a podcast that youmight possibly want to like skip.
But you know, I think it'sit's very important for us to talk about
these things because hey, you know, Jackie and I are both in the
media, and pop culture is likeliterally it runs our lives. But be

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like, I think the severity ofwhat's been transpiring, whether it be on
like Hulu shows and in real life. All of these things have just been
coming together within our our circle ofentertainment over the past couple of weeks,
so we felt like it was veryimportant to talk about this and before we

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actually start getting into it, ifyou or anybody you know has been sexual
assaulted and wishes to speak to somebodyanonymously, the helpline is one eight hundred
six five six four six seven three. Thanks so much, guys, Thank
you, guys, thank you.Just to kind of cover everything that we
are going to be talking about,just to you know, continue on with
this forewarning. We will be talkingabout uh Diddy, puff Daddy, pe,

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Divvy, p diddy, whatever youwant to call them. On combs.
We will be talking about Quyet onSet, Yes, Quiet on the
Set, Quiet on Set, whichis a documentary talking about, you know,
the the reality of childhood actors,especially in the Nickelodeon space, which

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is kind of crazy because these werethe shows that we grew up on and
now we had we had no idealike this was what was happening. Yeah,
there were certain instances and like certainshows where you were like that's kind
of weird, but like you know, it's like it made you uncomfy at
times, but you never really thought, oh, maybe it's because something is

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how something else is how happening Behindthe scene. It had Jackie and I
both of us thinking about when wewant to have kids, and the question
really came up to, like,you know, would we want our kids
to be in this entertainment industry becauseof how like mentally jar it is,

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especially for a child. We cancircle back on that answer a little bit
later, but you know, let'slet's talk about the number one thing that's
been popping up this week. PDiddy. P Diddy Sean Holmes, which
is crazy. I mean, Ifeel like everybody in the entertainment industry and
even not in the entertainment industry,has always heard about these like crazy accusations

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about like P Diddy and his partiesand the way he is, the way
that like you know, he uh, just maneuvers sometimes. And I obviously
have never seen been to a PDiddy party. Thank god, you've never
been to a P Diddy party.But like it is crazy because like we

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did interview him at the station andthen we saw him literally a week before
this all happened. Yeah, andit's just almost kind of crazy because it's
like you never know what goes onin someone's personal life. Like, yes,
celebrity are out there and we prettymuch know everything, but we really

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don't. Yeah, that's the thing. We honestly we think we know everything,
but in the reality of it,we don't know anything that's going on
in their lives. Like, youknow, I was talking to Jackie about
this, like when it comes toDiddy, I've you know, we met
him over at a Rolling Loud backstagelike during the Kanye West Tie Dollar Sign

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performance, and I got the chanceto shake his hand and then a part
of me was like, Yo,this is cool because it's ditty. But
then another part of me was like, but industry wise, I already have
an idea of like how you move, So it was kind of like this
cool handshake but also an awkward handshakeat the same time, And honestly I
felt a little bit like eerie aboutit. Yeah, honestly, I will

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say, like speaking from like personalexperience that meeting him there definitely is this
like is he a torture genius?Is he like there's just this feeling that
you get around him that it's likeokay, like is he just this like

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this mastermind that no one gets andlike, you know, is he's a
vant garde and like, you know, like type of thing or is it
because there's something much more cynical that'shappening. Yeah, and it And to
have the FBI and Homeland Security radiofucking house, they got some shit on
you. That's literally I got allI gotta say, not just a house,

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but three houses, three houses.It was La New York and Miami.
Yeah. Yeah, but like likethey don't just wake up one day
and be like, you know what, let's go raid Diddy's house. Well
that's the thing. It was likeplanned out for all of it to happen
at once on the same day.Right at that point, there's kind of
no escaping it. And obviously forthe past couple of months, like you

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know, whether you've been paying attentionto the tabloids or not, Diddy's name
has been tossed around like so manytimes. I want to say, probably
since like the end of last yearwhen everything was happening between like him and
Cassie Cassie who is Filipino, letme just say that. But you know,
like them trying to figure out likethis money situation and Cassie trying to

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get her money from Ditty for allthe pain and suffering that he caused her.
Yeah, and I think honestly,like Cassie was just like the beginning,
she opened up the floodgates for it. Oh yeah, it was like
yeah, like again, there wasalways these accusations against Ditty and like underage
miners and just even other people thatwere probably of like age. But then

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it was like a consent issue,you know, and there was always these
like accusations, and then Cassie cameout and she's like I have the proof,
I have the timeline, like thisis what happened, and then you
see these videos. That's the crazypart is that when ever a celebrity gets
exposed or is under five for somethingthat that's absolutely insane, we go back

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and we start looking at videos andwe're just like why didn't we see this?
Like why didn't we pay attention more? Maybe somebody would have noticed something.
There's an interview with with Ditty andCassie on the carpet. I think
of the Magala and you could justtell that like Diddy was very much like
like stay here. Well, becauseyou think about the situations that they're put

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in right, like, you know, in some way, shape or form,
like we see these celebrities as likethe gods or like the idols of
like you know, what's happening nowadays. And so when you see like a
ditty or literally anybody else next toyou know, unfortunately, like a fifteen
year old kid or like a Cassieor like a Justin Bieber when he was

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like super young, like you're kindof playing it off as like, oh,
well, you know that's that's justditty, that's just like celebrities doing,
you know, celebrity things. Yeah, but also too, from like
a media standpoint, you know,a single video of like Justin Bieber and
Diddy might get like two million views, three million views, fifty million views.

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How many people actually watch that video? How many of those people are
actually like regular people like you andI? And then how many of us
are actually thinking that deeply when itcomes to did he said some kind of
weird shit? When it comes toJustin Bieber, like Jackie was able to
find like a resurface like audio ofthat Justin Bieber Diddy I guess interview,

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and we're gonna play it for youguys right now right now, he's having
forty eight hours with Diddy, himand his boy they're having the times of
their lives, like like like youknow, where were hanging out and what
we're doing we can't really disclose,but it's definitely a fifteen year old dream

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and we're gonna go full buck fullcrazy crazy Justin it's it's a fifteen year
old dream, and we can't discloseanything that we're doing that sounds nuts.
Yeah, And like you think aboutlike in that moment and when that video
came out, everyone's probably thinking andmaybe people still think like oh, they're

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probably talking about music that Diddy's gonnahelp, like you know, Justin with
or this and that. But wenever know. We never know, Like
we truly just don't know. JustinBieber is in that video right next to
Ditty and he's just standing so awkwardlythat you're just like he's kind of like
what are we gonna do? Likewait, hold on, Like yeah,

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yeah, well I can't imagine becausetruthfully, in retrospect, when I look
back when I was like fifteen orsixteen years old, I was dumb,
you know, as much as Ifelt like I knew so much about myself
and the world like that was literallyjust the beginning of everything. Yeah,
and everything that I know now likeis significantly larger than when I knew when

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I was like fourteen fifteen. Socan you imagine, right, let me
put you guys in the scenario,being like a fifteen year old in the
house of one of the biggest musicmusic icons, one of the biggest music
moguls in the world. Yeah,Like you must have to listen to him
because if it's like, well,he made Bigg's career pop off, right,

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may set one point all everybody underbad Boy, he made them all
pop off? So why would Inot listen to Diddy? Yeah? I
think like with with that, likeyou said, like you're just kind of
like a lot of these people,and and it very much is this type
of industry, you know where youhear these things for those who aren't in
the like the entertainment industry, uhLike, for for those who are part

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of the industry, like you hearlike, oh wow, if you you
know, if you if you dothis for me or if you know,
like you you know who this is, like you want to be in their
good graces type of thing, Andso you just stay quiet to be honest.
Yeah, you know. Unfortunately,like a lot of very similar things
like happen to women in the industry, for example, right, Like,

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guys, there are situations that we'reliterally like people will fuck their way to
the top, right, Yeah.And so imagine being a kid and you're
thinking to yourself like, not thatI gotta like fuck my way to the
top, but like if you know, if like a Diddy or someone is
putting like their hands on you,and you're thinking like, Okay, maybe

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this is just normal. Maybe thisis just like part of everything that is
supposed to happen in order for meto succeed. Like, yes, you
you might want to like not sayyou might want to say like, oh,
like well these kids should have knownbetter. They don't know any better
when they're fourteen fifteen years old.Yeah, And it's also like you're in
a state I don't think people reallyunderstand, to be honest, unless that

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you've unless you've been through it thatlike you're also kind of in a state
of shock and all. Yeah,a state of like of okay, like
well like almost guilt. I wantto say, like because it's it's like
okay, well I don't want thisthis person to leave. I don't want
this person to jeopardize something I don'tAnd it goes for whether it's like power

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like power relationships like that in thisindustry, or even just like like romantic
relationships like there are people. Yes, I mean, you could be in
a relationship where you guys call eachother boyfriend or girlfriend or girlfriend and girlfriend
or whatever it may be, andpeople can manipulate your feelings of like you

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know, oh, well, youknow you don't want to have sex with
me, I'm gonna leave. Andthen you're just you're like no, no,
no, wait, wait wait thatimmediately when you start feeling like,
oh, I feel like if Idon't do this, then something bad is
gonna happen. Then that's when andyou have like gone through an assault,

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you have gone through a certain typeof manipulation, and whether you're a kid
a grown ass adult, you don'tknow that feeling until you've been in it.
Yeah, didn't Usher talk about allof this too? Usher? Usher?
Well, Usher was also like underDitty at one point, no pun
intended, no pun? Oh thatbrings up another thing after Yeah, but

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you know, like Usher was alsolike under Ditty at one point and you
know you kind of think about,like, well, Usher started when he
was like fairly young too, Yeah, and not that you know, I'm
not gonna make any sort of likeaccusations here as I were like an Usher
shirt as well. Crazy, Butall I'm saying is like I can't imagine
how early in like Ditty's like musicmogul career, like any of these things

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could have actually started, because liketo go from working with like some of
the biggest artists in the world andof all time to kid sex trafficking,
Yeah, Like that's so painful tohear. Yeah, And like I mean
that's what a lot of people,a lot of people are now. And

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this is just the media industry that'strying to grab the next headline, like
who's gonna be next, who's gonnacome out, who's gonna like, who's
gonna be the one to say,like, oh, yeah, like I
was the one that was assaulted ortrafficked by Ditty or this and that,
And who's gonna be the victims thatare playing part in Ditty's like you know

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whatever. Like I've seen so manymedia outlets put take put Prince Harry's name
out there already with Diddy and I'mlike wow, what and so like I
had to read it, but youhave to understand too, And in no
way am I protecting Diddy. I'mprotecting Prince Harry in this instance where read
the stories, read the articles,because you see a headline where it says

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Prince Harry named in Ditty case andyou're like, whoa, that's wild.
What the actual article says And ifyou read, like you know what the
what everything says and like paragraphs,Yeah, if you read what it says,
it'll say like, oh, PrinceHarry was named in attending some of

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Ditty's parties along with other celebrities.Yeah, yeah, do you know how
many celebrities have attended Ditty's parties?Now, granted, some may have done
some stuff, some may have not, But the media has this way of
putting. And this is speaking fromsomebody who is in media and who sometimes
has to make these clickbait type oflike statements and headlines. You know,

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I mean I I I you knowmyself try and being in this industry,
try and give people the nicest headlinesin the most like clickbait way possible,
where it's like because you want themto come back you want them to come
back. But some media outlets obviouslyjust don't give a fuck. But like,

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read the articles, read the stories, don't just read the headlines because
it does not say everything. Theheadlines are to grab your attention and not
to give you the full story,you know. Speaking of headlines, this
was more of like a verbal headline. So back when I was working at
Real ninety two three with bootleg KevinDJ head, we had this one off

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and not a one off bit,but it was maybe like three or four
times that we actually did this,and this was this bit was called the
Celebrity Smash. And I wish wehad keV on the podcast for this because
he could talk about this forever.Oh let's see, let's see I want
to see. Let's see. Yeah, let let's let's see if we can

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get a bootleg Kevin. Wow,We're oh yeah, let's see. Let's
see. Okay, what happened?All right? So some guy calls in
who's obviously uh playing for the otherteam. Uh you know, probably catching
didn't sound like a picture. Nonetheless, he calls in and he says,

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hey, I had a month longexperience sexually with uh mogul slash CEO who
may or may not be who youguys made this podcast about his guy,
this mogul or whatever was This guyworked at like a designer store. I

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think it was like, I don'tknow, guccier Di or some designer store,
and this guy came in and shoppedand got a bunch of stuff for
his family, and then his hishandler, his assistan or whatever, went
up to him and got his numberfor for right or not for allegedly whoever
this podcast is about. Right,So then what ended up transpiring was the

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dude who got his never reached outto him, invited him over long story
short, they have this like monthlong fuck on. He goes to like
these parties at his house. He'shim and watch some dude fuck his girlfriend
at the time who may or maynot be and uh yeah, they were

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fucking. They were butt fucking andsucking and uh you know, uh then
cut him off and he said hedidn't hear from him, and then like
he just stopped talking to him.That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, So
for the person who may or maynot have been spoken of on that specific

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call, like no, that wasmy first instance of actually like hearing about
you know, his everything. Thatwas going on like in his life,
and I'm just like thirty, yeah, and I was like, you know,
there's no way. But I startedto think about it a lot more
because I end up watching a lotof like just random movies, random shows,

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and like, you know how,there was a rap there was like
this rapper kid that like my cousinDrew ended up putting me in. Jackie
on right, this is a sidenote that is going to like correlate with
everything, and he said this linewhere he was just like I fucked so
much pussy, I might get somebussy and for all of you, I
might switch to bussy. And I'mjust like, what the fuck is bussy?

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And then Jackie's like that's boy pussyand I'm like, oh, that's
nuts, actually right, And soI started to think about all this shit
a lot more, and I'm justlike, wow, can you imagine just
having so much, like so muchsex with so many like like from a
guy, right, can you imaginejust having so much sex with so many

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different women that like you kind ofget bored and you're just like, oh,
let me experiment with dudes. AndI don't know if it's like a
I don't know, if it's likea sexual thing, I think think maybe
it's more so out of like someother unfulfilling desire. I don't know.
I feel like that's like I feellike that's what a lot of like celebrities

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of certain statues like they experience.Like I feel like we can't like fully
grasp that because like celebrities that areare such of that high like caliber,
they have so much money, theycould they could get any person they wanted.
They could, you know, theycould just do whatever they want with

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no consequence that they're just like,you know what, let me see what
I can get away with, youknow, because they think that they're above
it all and that they won't everget like caught for it exact. And
I think that's what's happening in thisinstance with with Diddy. I will say,
there is a this new phrase thatis circling around that no Diddy is

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the new pause. No Diddy isthe new pause. Yeah, like did
he do it? Or did henot? Or just like no Diddy?
No, like no Diddy. Likeif you say something that's like questionable that
it's now like you gotta say,like no Diddy. That's insane. Yeah,
it's like, who was it thatsaid it? No, Like,

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who was it that said it first? I want to I want to get
it right, but like somebody saidit on a podcast recently that it was
just like it was kind of likefunny, to be honest, but hold
on, let me see. Letme see. So you got to replace
pause with no Diddy? May saidit. May said it on a podcast.

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He's on his podcast that he wasjust like, no, Diddy,
let me see if I can findit. They say, the one to
take you. Oh wow, that'snuts. Let me see if I turned
his back on Diddy. That's insane. Yeah, it was. It was
actually funny, and then everyone waslike like, I don't know, man,
I I'm like kind of fifty orfifty about that because it's like you're

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kind of glorifying that at that point. I think like a lot of people
are just making like fun of itat this point. Look hold on,
all right, I'm gonna send itto you so you could play it okay
and so that I could get yourreaction as well. Hold on, I'm
gonna send it to you. Theteg We're literally just sending each other audio
two guys as we go along.This is how you know we are a

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or authentic podcast. Yeah, okay, So do you have a message to
Anthony Davis that you'd like to say? Anthony Davis? The talk is good,
you know, the talk is perfectlygood. But we're still waiting on
you to take over the team andto make sure that the team make it
to the playoffs. That's what allbig dogs, Paws and Alphas do.

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No Diddy, you know, oh, no, Brady done. They were
so stunned that they were just like, what did you just say? He

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said, no Diddy, bro,I don't know, man. Well,
I mean even Kat Williams, right, Kat Williams is talking about how like
literally twenty twenty four, like peopleare going to get exposed. Yeah,
I mean at the beginning of thisyear, like Kat Williams went on Shannon
Sharp's Shannon Sharp's podcast and literally said, how this list of like f U's

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and he gave us, like hewarned us that this shit was gonna happen,
like listen to this, and heturned it down. Who's gonna turn
down fifty million? Now I've hadto turn down fifty million dollars four times,
four times just to protect my integrityand that virgin I was telling you

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about it, right because he didnhe be wanting a party and you gotta
tell him no, got to tellhim no, I did. I did.
See I got the receipts for everythingI'm telling you. That's why I
can say I'm just free Fillion andhe turned it down to shout out to
Cat Williams for not for not liketurning down his integrity. Yeah, I

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mean like, well, but likeKat Williams, there's another like piece of
audio where he said, like somany people are going to get exposed.
Period. All of these big devianceis all catching hell in twenty twenty four.
It's up for all of them.It don't matter if you did he
or whoever you is, Tgjsenny,every all lies will be exposed, that's

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all. And anyone who takes thatthe wrong way know why they take it
the wrong way. I mean literally, like we were all calling like Kat
Williams like oh he's on like drugs, like he's like going crazy, blah
blah blah blah. But like theseare the people that like they're in it,

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you know, Oh, they're muchdeeper in the industry than us industry
people. Yeah, no, onethousand percent like they see everything, and
Kat Williams warned us like he knewwhat was going to happen. And Kat
Williams, I didn't say shit aboutyou, but I'm so sorry that people

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did say shit about yeah, becauseI was wronging with Kat Williams, like
I listened to him like it's it'scrazy to think that everything is coming to
light now. Yeah, speaking ofcelebrities who was also getting backlashed because of
everything that they were talking about aboutthe inner portions of the industry ended he
specifically, let's go back to adrink Champs interview Kanya web daughter in public,

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and I didn't have kidnapped my daughterin public, and I didn't have
to address to my child. Noneof these niggas that want to say something
about Travis gave me the address.But as far as Meek Mills, Puff
Daddy whoever, none of these niggas, all you fake hard niggas fucked you.
Are you fake hard niggas fucked you? You know what I'm saying,

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I'll get fuck because you can't shootnobody anyway. And the reason why you
got talks because you did a deal. You fucking fit. You know what
I'm saying. That's why you gotto come at me, because part of
the deal for you to be andget out of jail is that you promised
that you're gonna go pull my cotcoke car. So your niggas shut the
fuck up about me. Now tome say it, call your niggas shut
the fuck up. That that's nothingI mean. And you know, I've

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always been to Kanye stand like athousand percent, with the exception of like
a couple of things that he'd besaying, but like a lot of things
that he'd be saying. But honestly, like they're like, it's kind of
like when we see like a Diddyvideo next to you, justin Bieber,
We're looking at that and we're kindof just like, nah, you know,
there's no way Diddy could be like, you know, like this weird

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child molester or whatever. But thensex trafficker. And then when we look
at videos like Kanye West, wejust think he's kind of crazy, or
we look at videos like kat Williamslike he's kind of crazy. But what
we don't know is literally what theyknow. So a lot so some blame
comes into us just not really knowinglike what exactly is happening within the inside,

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and a lot of us become sheepto it. Yeah, we just
absorb the information and we just takeit for like point blank what it is,
like, Oh Kanye is wilden outagain. Oh kat Williams is wilden
out again. Like oh Diddy's justbeing Diddy, like you know what I
mean. Like it's crazy. Andthat's why it goes back to my point
with like the media industry and likethe headlines and all that, we're just

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taking everything on the surface level.Yeah, we never know what's going on
behind the scenes. And that's whylike stuff like like Aid from the Diddy
stuff like that's why like the Quieton Set documentary about like child actors and
the dark side of child acting onNickelodeon in the prime of Nickelodeon, Yeah,

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when Nickelodeon was popping, like literallythere was no like Disney wasn't even
competing with Nickelodeon at that point.Like Amanda Show, Drake and Josh like
all that, like so many shows, so many, like extras, so
many. I mean, if youlook at Amanda Bndes now, it's sad,

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you know, she went through somuch and it's because like if you
watch a documentary. You see thatlike from a very young age she was
put in front of the camera.We don't know what she went through,
you know, we don't know ifshe was one of those kids, you
know, And like now Drake Bellis just coming out and saying, hey,

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I was one of those kids andit happened to me. Yeah,
So we do want to give aspoiler alert for anybody who is interested in
watching Quiet on Set. For allof you who don't want to watch it,
we're basically going to give you allthe cliff notes of what's happening on
Quiet on Set. Again, asJackie said, this is based around like
the Nickelodeon like stars in like theearly nineties, mid two thousands, early

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two thousands. Rather and it eventhough it does circle around like Drake Bell,
it does circle around this big timeNickelodeon producer Dan Schneider. And basically
there's just a lot of allegations aroundDan Schneider of you know, just being
a little bit touchy around like thekids. And also what was his name,

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the one who was actually like convictedof being like a Brian Peck producer
and dialogue coach, and on theset of Nickelodeon. And then there was
another guy. I can't remember hisname, but that guy, uh Brian
Peg and the other guy were actuallylike found to have you know, their

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relations relations relations with a child witha minor, and there was like other
things that were confirmed and they werelocked up and a couple of the shows
that they were in charge of wereshows like all that Drake and Josh,
Sam and kat Amanda show. Yeah, Keenan and Kel even Kell, Keenan

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and Kel they were a part ofthat too, not like but they were
like a part of that Nickelodeon crew. And I mean, like again it
goes back to like who we givethat torture genius title to? Well,
if you think about it, right, Like I don't want to defend him
as like a torture genius, right, But then like in these ideas of

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like who torture geniuses are, likethey are able to create something that is
good for like the community and somethingthat we're gonna soak up all those aforementioned
shows and maybe even more that I'mnot thinking of on the top of the
head, like Nickelodeon is looking atthis like, oh, well, if
this guy is bringing us money,we just got to keep on letting him

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do whatever the hell he's doing,whether they know about what he's doing,
like specifically with these kids or not. Yeah, And I think like we
use that like that title or thatlabel of like the torture genius so lightly,
yeah, and so harshly to peoplethat don't deserve it, Like like

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Kanye, I will give him like, yes, he's a torture genius,
like there's something about him, youknow, yes he does and clearly suffers
from mental issues. But I've neverheard of an extent of Kanye West on
the level of P Diddy. Well, like as far as like these allegations,

(32:02):
as far as like messing with kidsand doing this and doing that,
I've never heard personally about like Kanyedoing that. And that's why it's like,
Okay, well, how come whenwe give like this torture genius to
pe Ditty labeled to P Didty,It's like we give it to him,
and maybe we can forgive him forthese like things that he did with kids

(32:23):
and sex trafficking and this and thatbecause he's a torture genius. But when
it comes to Kanye, because hehas a mental issue, we're just like
he's a torture genius. But yeah, still fuck Kanye. Well it's like,
yeah, well you know what,giving it's the wrong person. Well,
you know what it is though,Like you know, they always say,
like whenever you enter a room,right, it's never the loudest person

(32:45):
in the room that you should payattention to. The person that you should
pay attention to is the person whois quietest in the room, because they
are the ones who are actually observingeverything and probably the most sneakiest, right.
And so like you put Kanye nextto Diddy, Kanye is being the
loudest person in the media. Diddyhe's tucked away doing whatever the fuck he's

(33:07):
doing. Like, and but youthink about those two situations in a room,
It's like, Okay, well Ishouldn't really be paying attention to Kanye.
I should be paying more attention toDiddy in this particular situation. And
I don't know, man, Imean, I just think that when it
comes down to especially the Nickelodeon stuff, like just to bring it back,

(33:28):
like when it comes to Drake Bell, like he was going through like his
years of where like he was kindof wilden out and nobody like really knew
what was going on. Even itlooked kind of crazy too, from like
a audience's standpoint of, like,oh, well, why doesn't Josh Peck
talk to Drake Bell anymore? Likethey seem like they were buddy buddy on

(33:50):
the set, they seemed like theywere best friends. And then you know
exactly Josh is still doing his careerin acting. And then when stuff like
this comes out where Drake Bell openlysays, like, you know, like
there were multiple times where there weresexual relations with him and a producer and
a producer, like everything just startsto make that much more sense as to

(34:15):
why he starts wild out m M. And in no way, Yes,
Drake Bell has had his likement,his moments of things that I don't think
should be forgiven in my personal opinion, and people probably won't forgive. But
it does make you understand why hedid. He's done the things that he's
done. Again, that doesn't excuseany of the other things that he's done.

(34:37):
He opened up on the documentary abouthow he was you know, texting
a a minor a minor, andhe did serve his time for that,
and he did publicly apologize for that. Yeah, now you know I again,
I don't condone that specific behavior,but if you see what he went
through before, in his earlier years, a little part of him might have

(35:01):
thought at one point like like,oh let me, let me reclaim my
power. Yeah, or maybe thisis okay because this happened to me.
You know. It's it's kind oflike those it's again, it's like I
mean like cycles, you know howour parents raised us and things like that,
exactly, that's exactly how it works. Now this is a much more

(35:23):
serious offense than like our parents yellingat us, but it does there's that,
you know, it's kind of likea victim cycle of like Okay,
well this happened to me, somaybe I can do it to somebody else
because it's okay. And she justkeeps on going. There's just this constant,

(35:45):
like this constant like motion of goingthrough it and and maybe this is
okay, Maybe this is maybe thisis the way adults are supposed to track
because an adult did this to meexactly. But with that being said,
like Drake Boll comes out and saysfinally, like you know, this was

(36:06):
me, This was me that waspart of this lawsuit, that this was
that I had. I was akid I was fifteen. I was fifteen,
and somebody took that power from me, somebody like abused me. And
for then other child actors who arenow adults too to make fun of him.

(36:30):
Yeah, that shit is the mostdisgusting and like like just in most
insane thing that I can't even comprehend. Well, the I wouldn't even want
to say kids. But the peoplewho were making fun of him were the
three main cast members of Ned's DeclassifiedSchool Survival Guide, And honestly, they've

(36:54):
had their their fair share of likeof what's the word I'm looking for,
not drama but antics, antics andscandals themselves the past year and a half,
ever since they started their podcast,Like that girl who played most most

(37:20):
clearly, Yeah, you don't needto be name. There's there's Ned,
there's Mo's, and there's Cookie.Yeah. I don't even know your real
names. And that says a lot. But like she when they started their
podcast, like she started saying thatlike they would like she was wilding out
on Seid and this and that,like they would have sex and this and

(37:42):
that and I'm like whoa and shesaid some wild ship. Apparently she's also
a racist too, so like Iwas like like, literally, her face
annoys me, and I'm just like, I don't want to entertain this.
Then that guy Ned has his ownfair share of fucking scandals too. Cookie
I haven't really heard about, butI'm pretty sure that he's also like in

(38:05):
the cuts of some scandals. Butit's like, you guys are on this
set of your show. You guysare a part of this company, and
when somebody speaks out of the caliberthat Drake bell is and the one that
put the one that walks so youguys could run. Yeah, yeah,

(38:25):
that's so fucking disrespectful. It isdisrespectful, especially when he's talking about his
abuse. Cause you know, Idon't I mean, I don't know the
inner workings of their personal relationships,but you know it, let me draw
it up for you guys, Likeif you had a coworker, you're working
your everyday job and you have acoworker who goes through that, Like,

(38:45):
is your first thing to do tolike make fun of them? Like,
Nah, you should actually like confinein them and like try to make sure
like they're good. I don't thinkthe first thing you want to do is
publicly humiliate them like more. Thenthey probably already feel and honestly like this
whole nets to classified cast like themmaking fun of like Drake Bell and his

(39:09):
situation and and honestly making fun ofall like victims of abuse. Yeah,
because that's what they did. Theymade fun of all victims of abuse.
Whether they were specifically talking about DrakeBell or not, they did it.
They Once they made fun of it, it opened up the floodgates for you.

(39:30):
Yeah, And for them to dothat, it's like, Bro,
you're not fucking kids anymore, grownass adults. And then to go on
your podcast and be like we're sorry, Like you know, we we apologize,
we know that what we did waswrong. Grow the fuck. Uh
Yeah, because you know, andyou know, speaking for all the guys

(39:52):
who do listen to our podcast Mixa Penal podcast, like we all know
there is guy talk that goes amongstus, right, Like you know,
we like to poke fun at thingslike every so often, but when it
comes to something like this, youdon't poke fun at this in like a
public matter, And honestly, likethe fact that you do this in a

(40:15):
public matter really goes to show yourtrue colors. Yeah, that you're a
piece of shit and I'm not evensaying talk about I'm not even saying make
fun of these things like within yourinner circles, because I also think that's
not really that's not cool at all. And so you know, I can't
even explain what they did and whythey did it. I just think it's

(40:39):
a fucked up situation because there wereinstances on the quiet on the set docuseries
to where there were people who werelike, no, like Dan Schneider wouldn't
do this, or like that otherproducer, mister Peck wouldn't do this either.
And you know, a lot ofthese people were notable people that you

(41:00):
would recognize, like some cast membersfrom like Boy Meets World, for example,
and a whole bunch of other peoplethat I just can't name off the
top of my head. And quickly, as soon as things transpire years later,
some of these people have regrets andsay like, hey, if I
had known what was happening back then, yeah, I would for what I

(41:23):
know now, I wouldn't have publiclystated and defended you know some of these
producers. See, that's the thing. They never publicly stated that it was
like it was all like it wasall court documents that yeah, yeah,
and you know, I guess someand we may never know this, but

(41:45):
the people who were defending that guyBrian Peck who was the dialogue coach and
that had abused Drake Bell, alot of them or a lot of those
actors and notable actors that you guysknow, they they said some were saying
that they didn't know what the casewas. They just knew that they had

(42:06):
to write like a good like goodintent letter on his favor. That some
didn't know what the charges were,what he was going to to jail for,
and this and that that may betrue, will give them the benefit
of the doubt, but like eitherway, it's like these there are real

(42:30):
life victims. There are whether you'rea celebrity or or not. These are
real fucking people. These are realfucking people. These are real victims.
And if you or any of yourfriends, if you're in a in a
friend group that makes fun of that, like check yourself and check your friends

(42:50):
like that, like that shit isn'tisn't cool, Like it's it's childish,
it's disgusting, it's you're literally likejust think about it if it was your
fucking kid mm hmm. Think aboutif that were to happen to you or
to your child, if you havea child, or you know, like

(43:12):
it's it's insane and it can happento anybody. It really can. So
a couple of things. Right.To answer the question that I had begged
in the beginning of this podcast,would Jackie and I, when we eventually
have kids, would we want themto be part of the entertainment industry music,
radio, television, film, anyof that sort, I want to

(43:37):
give my answer first, and Itold her that my answer would still be
yes, despite everything that is happening. My answer would still be yes because
I love what I do so much, and if our kids love this type
of industry as well, then yeah, like I wouldn't take that away from
them. But the only thing thatneeds to be adjusted is these laws that

(44:01):
surround miners and children. I'm notgonna let like my fifteen ten year old
kid around just like any fucking body. I need to physically be there every
single time. Yeah, because thereis no fucking way I am not gonna
be there. And honestly, likethe United States needs to be a lot

(44:22):
more stricter about these a lot morestrict rather about these child labor laws,
like no that doesn't mean they're workingfucking twelve whatever hours a day. No,
they cannot go to a producer's houselike by themselves, and producers need
to be fucking okay with that becauseit is literally creepy, because yeah,

(44:43):
if not, you're fucking weird.Yeah, exactly. There's no reason at
all, like entertainment industry wise,or or just like everyday life that a
grown adult should be left alone witha child that is not theirs. I

(45:05):
want to I want to shout outone of my little homies. Right.
His name is Sean Breezy. He'sadult Filipino like singer from Las Vegas.
He's sixteen years old, right,And so I reached out to him on
some like hey, like, you'rea really dope artist and I'm going to
be in Vegas, like, youknow, a couple months from now,
Like let's go ahead and have like, you know, just some lunch,

(45:27):
right, And I thought to myself, I was like, okay, cool,
Like that's cool. But I wasalso like, hey, do you
have like a dad or like anadult that like you that can accompany you?
Because I also don't want him tofeel like, who's this random ass
fucking thirty year old dude like tryingto get a lunch with me, and
you know, like I had tobecause of situations like this, and mind

(45:50):
you, this happened before. LikeI have to think about these things because
if I'm a sixteen year old kidand I'm getting approached by like some thirty
year old dude, like, that'ssome weird ask shit if like you know,
like my dad ain't here or likemy mom, like you know what
I mean, that's weird as shit, Dude, that is weird. He's
a dope singer, y'all shoul checkhim out, by the way, And

(46:12):
yes, I did have lunch withhim and his dad. Yes, for
me, I don't know. Idon't know. It's it's hard for me
to answer that question right now,to be honest, because I feel like
I don't I don't know. Iwould want to do everything that I can

(46:32):
to make my kid happy, butI would also want every want to do
everything that I could to protect mychild. And I now see, you
know, because of all these likethe stuff that's coming out in this like
Quiet on Set documentary, I nowsee what my parents meant. When I

(46:57):
was a kid and I wanted tosleep over my best friend's house, and
they were like, no, youcan't do that, Like no, you
like, no even though we knowtheir parents or even know even though like
we've known them for years. No, you can't because we never know.
You never know what can happen.Yeah, and I realize that now.
And it was even like family toothat, like my parents wouldn't let me

(47:20):
like sleep over, you know,but it was just it's very hard for
me to answer. I want tosay, like, yeah, I would
let my kid do whatever they wantedto do, but knowing what I know,
and even that putting it my childat risk, it doesn't sit well
with me. So I really don'tknow until we actually have our kid.

(47:45):
I hear you. I do haveone last question for you, okay,
And this question also goes out toDJs. Are you still playing ditty records
in the club or any setting down? So that means you can't play Honey
by Mariah Carey. You can't playonly you the original and the remix by

(48:08):
one to twelve. That's no BigRecords, that's no Faith Evans. That's
that's some Mary J. Blige records. That's some J Low records. There's
a Whitney Houston record down. That'sa lot of records. There's some l
O cool JSWV down. That's alot of records that you can't play.

(48:30):
You can't play R Kelly or Dittyanymore. That's crazy. That's a lot.
Would you play some Diddy? Still? I don't. I don't think
so No, I don't think becauseBro, the FBI raided his house.
They have fucking proof of something.Yeah, onland Security raided his house.
He fled at six am in thefucking morning out of Van Ey's airport,

(48:52):
which is literally like down the street. Yeah. Yeah, that's a lot
of records and he has a drugmule like that. Just got a rest?
Did who was a former Syracuse baseballor basketball player? All I'm saying
is, man, these artists aremaking it hella hard to keep on playing
their ship in twenty twenty four andtwenty twenty five. Let me just say
that. So, Kat Williams warnedus, Yes, he warned us,

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and Kanye warned us too. StremeVultures. My name is Nico Blitz of
Jack and this is the Mexipedo Podcast. We're out everybody piece, Bye assass