#106 - Trace Gaynor of The Filharmonic "So Corny"

From being on Pitch Perfect 2, performing with Usher, and multiple times on the Late Late Show, Trace Gaynor explores his longevity in the entertainment industry as a singer of The Filharmonic, a media strategist, broadcaster, and all with a communications degree from USC.

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Episode Transcript

(00:00):
Musta kyo everyone. Hey, I'mfinally we have someone who actually introduced himself,
Trace Gainer in the building. Yeah, well y'all have like an intro
and so like to pop to thethird person and be like, oh yeah
also me, yeah right right,So that's what we love to do.
We just like to like not givethe heads up just to see what like
somebody says, like just genuinely likethe reaction. So that was a good

(00:24):
one. I'm Trace is in thebuilding, y'all. Trace part of the
Philharmonics, you know what I'm saying. Pitch Perfect two, might I say
one of my favorite series of allfreaking time. One thousand percent was a
huge part of it, so madeno literally I remember one time Nego was

(00:46):
just like this was literally probably likea month and a half ago. He
really told me he's like, let'swatch all the Pitch Perfects in a row.
Those movies like hate for some peoplelike that. People love that is
like such a good like trilogy concept, Like yeah, I'm it's cool.
Part of that like that lives on. It definitely does well. You know
what's funny about the entire thing isthat they made you know, a cappella

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groups just seem like so like lame. But then I'm just like, no,
that ship is hella cool? Likeit's so like even do you watch
The Office? Yeah, so likeeven Andy from the Office, I thought
Andy was like the dopest character justfor being in an acapella group. That's
okay, No, I think likelike the whole My first introduction to,

(01:34):
like I guess the a cappella worldwas Pentatonics, Okay, yeah, yeah,
and I remember them, and thenI remember being introduced to the Philharmonics
when you guys were seeing the NationalAnthem at Dodger Stadium. Yeah, so
I was just like, oh mygosh. And I remember texting Ego.
I was like, there's this dopeacapella group here. I was like,

(01:56):
they did so good and she waslike, and they're Filipino. Yeah,
that's the first thing everyone knows aboutus, is like the Philharmonic with an
FI and goes, oh yeah,so that's like it's cool, like that's
the first thing everyone learns about Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So
off the rip, I do wantto ask this question. So we have
this game that we'd like to startoff in the podcast. In the last

(02:16):
podcast we actually did at the end. But it's called feta, so in
Spanish that means like out or gone, like you gotta get rid of you're
you're gone. Okay, all right, okay, so I think you might
know where this is going right now, So after I give you this multiple
choice question, we say to oneof them, okay, but it's your

(02:38):
choice. Okay, all right,So Trey's gainer. Which one gotta go
pitch Perfect one, pitch Perfect two, or pitch Perfect three. That is
not even a tough question. Iwas like kidding, which one of the
four guys in pitch Perfect one isa class? Yes? Yes, yes,

(03:01):
we are the stars. It's pitchperfect Yeah, okay, all right,
you know, and that's what Ifigured. So I got one more
since we are also in a Ap I onnth and you are also Filipino.
All right, so which one gottago? Plow o? Whoa?

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I can already tell this. Thiswas the kind of question I was like,
plow sweetie or newly introduced to theStates, mister easy mill. That's
really tough, right right right,So I'm gonna I have here's my my
logic. Sweety Sweetie and I actuallyboth were in the same year at USC

(03:53):
okay okay, and then Easy MillI've met him one okay, like I
always about it up and coming Filipino. So I'm I'm so sorry it's gonna
have to be as one of thethree that I've not met okay, okay,
okay, okay. Oh, butshout out to all three of them.

(04:16):
They're all absolutely super amazing. Butthat's cool. Didn't realize you went
to school, so you were inthe same like class or at least the
same year as she was. Shewas in the communication school, like the
journalism school at USC. Yeah,and so she was not I think her
like nickname was Sweety, but likeI didn't know her as Sweety there and
she was just like another girl inone of my classes, vaguely recognized,

(04:41):
like we probably I like didn't talkto or anything. I just knew her
face, okay. And then evenlike years later, like when she was
first coming up, someone's like,do you remember her? And I was
like, yeah, she does lookfamiliar. It's like that is she was
in school with us, whoa andso like we like ran I think we
had like one class my friend hadone class with them, like pulled up
for like we had like group metalsand so it's it's just like crazy how
you see people that was like,oh yeah, I like past that face,

(05:03):
like I vaguely knew she's sweetie.Yeah. It's it's hell of funny
because you're like, oh yeah,we look back on emails, so like
you technically have her personal email.Like school, I got that one there
and talk about people I went toschool with. Scott Hoying from Pentatonics was
also our year at USC. Wait, what the hell? It's crazy to

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watch people that like you, like, I like knew of that guy,
like Diamante. I think now it'slike, oh yeah, now it's the
like leader Pentatonics. It's yeah,sweetye, Wow, what the heck?
Like, so when it comes tolike going to like USC Iinburg, like,
how is that process of like findingout what you want to do because
maybe that's broadcast in journalism and yousing like it's like I mean it was

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when I was a kid, Ilike got into like documentary filmmaking. Weird,
I like happened across this project whereI made in seventh grade and made
a documentary about the atomic bomb.I like that was like my before Filipino
Einstein in seventh grade, I madethis documentary called Genie in a Bottle,

(06:10):
which I was pulled from the quoteand I wasn't Oppenheim, but someone in
there around there said like, onceyou make the atomic bomb, you can't
let the genie out of the bottle. And so I made a joke documentary
with my friend about we interviewed thegenie that was out of the and we
just like we're talking about how youknow, it's you know, this is
something that happened, it's you know, we're just doing the whole history of

(06:30):
Obviously people love that story because ofOppenheimer, so you know, it's a
tales whole time. But yeah,that movie, we like aired it at
the we went to the United Nations, I like went and did like Wow
touring and so like I fell inlove with like storytelling via like documentaries when
I was a kid, So Iwent to a C majored in broadcast journalism.
I thought I wanted to be likea news anchor, a producer the

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whole and my nerdy side hobby wasa cappella. Was like I was my
dad's musician and I played violin andpiano growing up, and I just sang.
I was like a shower singer.I didn't I didn't make my high
school and I just a cappella waslike something that took up all of my
time, and so I just likefell into this opportunity. And producer from

(07:12):
the show saw me perform with mygroup because pitch Perfect is based off of
real competition, okay, and sohe saw me perform at that and I
was like, Hey, we're puttingthis group of Filipinos together, you want
to audition And then like just completelylike a complete shift away from what Wow.
Yeah, I mean I'm not gonnalie, dude, like before we
have anybody in here. And becauseI've only met you like a couple of
times, right, I literally stalkInstagram. I will literally stalk your Instagram,

(07:35):
bro. And it was just verycool to see how much your life
has just changed since like your firstpost, like what you're doing now,
like you know, as you mentionedlike you know, went to usc You're
from Chicago, you mentioned that tome off camera and doing everything that you
do with Spotify and going for acommunication degree, being on movies, being

(07:59):
on the Late Late Show, andI'm just like it's a it's a yeah,
I definitely you can't like guess thisfirst, like if you asked me,
like what do you want to dowhen you grew up? Like this
was not a but I mean whenI because I didn't study music or anything
like literally was just a nerdy hobbyI had. I The way that I
like added to the Philharmonic was Iwasn't a music major. I'd like Joe
and Vja, the other two likepart singers, like study music. They're

(08:20):
incredible, like and I was likestruggling to keep up. Yeah, And
the way I helped was I ranour social media because I was like making
content at school, like for journalism. So I was like, I'll run
our YouTube channel, I'll make ourmusic video. Oh and that's what I
did, And so I was wheneverthere we like made you know, songs
online. I was like, howdo we hack YouTube? Hack Instagram,

(08:43):
hack Twitter, hack Facebook to likeget in front of more people? And
I can make content that does that. So while in Philharmonic, while singing
and doing all that, like mycontribution not being like the lead singer of
the group was how do I hackalgorithms? And that is where I how
I like ultimately landed at Spotify becausenow I work with creators to help them

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grow on the platform, because it'swhat I did for Philrmonic. Wow,
that's amazing. Like it's just socrazy too, Like how you said like
you never envisioned this career path andnow it's just all meshing together too.
At the same time, Well,I've had plenty of time to make that
through line story like sound really impressive. Like there's a lot to like you
have to like call your parents andbe like, yeah, I am gonna

(09:26):
miss out on my second spesster senioryear because I'm gonna be in a Filipino
boy bad Like that isn't a wayto know how that's gonna end, Like
just bade for us schools in theworld. You're telling me you're skeeping up
on senior year. Yeah, Imean there was like when I told my
mom, I was like I'm gonnabe in this acapella group and she's like,
oh, like show me the website. I was like no, no,
no, like like I haven't gottenthere yet, Like you just learned

(09:50):
one song. She's like okay,well, okay, like can you devote
it for me, like record itfor me. It's like no, no,
you can watch it too. Likeit'll be on like it was just
like a there's a lot of anexplanation that you know. And you know
what's crazy is that, like youknow a lot. It's so funny,
like hearing your career path and likea nutshell because I feel like that's kind

(10:11):
of like how mine was. Right, Like I was a communications major over
at Calcatel a nowhere near usc Shoutout to the Golden Eagles, by the
way, it's close. It's physicallyclose. It's physically close. So you
know, like I was a communicationsmajor and then I got into radio.
I ended up DJing and podcasting atthe same time, and now like everything
like I was over there like thinkingI'm never gonna film something, but I

(10:35):
literally do this every single day.It all works out, it all meshes
together. And what's crazy is that, like I felt like you and I
kind of went to school around thesame time, and like we're starting to
do our thing around the same time. So I also had a very awkward
conversation with my parents because they didn'tknow what the hell I was doing.
When was that moment when they werelike, Okay, I see what you're

(10:56):
doing right, Well, it's Iwould say, I had it a little
easier because my dad. First ofall, I'm half white, so I
had a you know, my andmy white dad is a musician music for
like TV shows and stuff, solike the music thing wasn't too foreign.
I do think there is this inevitablelike what do you like, are you
sure this is what you want todo. It's like you have this vision

(11:18):
in your head, I'm going towork for a tech company or I'm going
to do this, like they hadthis idea of what happens. And the
thing is when in media there's athe whole Filipino and you know, any
ethnic version of it all, wherethat is not a viable career. That's
not a thing that people think you'redoing. And then also media is constantly
changing. So if you asked uswhen we were a freshman in college,

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like what do you want to bewhen you grew up, this job didn't
exist. So you can't say like, oh, I was planning for this
all along, because this job didn'texist six months ago, ten years ago
when we were picking a major.So one thing that I always people talk
about like journalism is like a dyingfield or whatever. And one thing I
always say is like journalism is likethe most all encompassing because it's like as

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corny as it is like storytelling,and you're gonna have to constantly adapt,
like am I doing this for anarticle? Am I doing this for like
a TV station? And whatever you'replanning on writing for. We like what
you're planning on your next job doesn'tisn't around yet. So journalism helps you
like get to that point. Sothat was when like to circle back,
when I explained that to like myparents is like, hey, like this

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wasn't an option when I was incollege, Like, had I known that
I wanted a major in acapella,I probably would have said that when I
was, you know, eighteen,Yeah, but I said I didn't want
to go into music because that thiswasn't here yet and podcasting wasn't a word,
And I would have said like,oh, I want to go to
podcasting cause I know what that was. But you just got to I got
you know, you have them whereyou realize like, hey, I'm just
trying to be flexible. I'm tryingto be like adaptable to whatever. Yeah,

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And I feel like like that wordadaptable it just applies for both like
Mexican and Filipino culture, Like that'swhat we do is like adapt and when
it comes to like our career pathand whether we're going the traditional route or
then that's a traditional route, it'skind of like we're figuring it out because
there's not many of us, andwe're almost all of us are the first
to do it, right. Yeah. I do also feel like when it

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comes to like a journalism route,you know, Jackie's also basically in like
the communications realm as well well likein radio. Like I think a lot
of people get the misconception like,yeah, just because you're the face of
something means you're making like millions andbillions of money, right, which in
reality, it's like, yeah,you're getting paid any exposure, so he

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knows your face says it all likeit's all an exposure. I'm in a
Filipino acapella boy band. I knowall of it, and we'll put your
face up there. Yeah right,you know what we'll pay you in punset
today. I wish that was ajoke, I know, But you know,
the the question comes up a lotbecause you know, we basically have

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to be able to adapt and shiftand like pick up like different types of
jobs within this industry just to likestay afloat, because not one job that
we have in this industry is goingto keep us going like that. You'll
you'll have the rare instances obviously,And so what I remember, like back
in school, I was like,man, like they taught me all this

(14:13):
stuff in school, but it doesn'teven apply to like what's going on today,
Like did you get the same experience. Yeah, I mean it's you
know, what I was like studyingwas broadcast journalism, where I'm learning how
to make like a TV segment,you know, yea, And it's like
nowadays like Instagram TikTok, you gottalike if you're gonna do hard news like
that, you have to go.I don't know, there's every all these
new and like what we would bemaking for is not around right now,

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you know, So like whether that'slike a YouTube you know, short or
like a YouTube video, it's justit's the rules have changed, and the
rules are always going to be changing. So it doesn't like can't get stuck
in one set, you know,You've got to learn how to just jump
around. Yeah. I feel likethat's how it is for like with me
and radio. I feel like allof us kind of have similar stories when

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it comes to like the career path. Now, me, I didn't finish
school because like I just had sucha bad experience with like one journalism teacher
that I was just kind of like, well this sucks, like and like
now I but I'm still like I'min the field that I wanted to be
in, but I feel like theshow them. Yeah. It's also that
era of like you know where likepolitics was the main point of like learning

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and everything like that, and Iwas just like, I just want to
be in entertainment right now, LikeI'm not trying to do all this.
Like see, that's tough because somany people say like, oh, I
just want to be an entertainment anda lot of people say that have no
clue what that means. Yeah,so you know that. It's like I'm
sure there's some level of like Ijust want to be on screens, like
you have no clue, no,literally, Yeah, And it's it's been

(15:41):
such a like process to go throughall that, but like like you said,
it's just it's always trying to figureout Okay, now this can help
this, and this is going togo here and this because I learned this
over here, it's going to gowith this too. It's it's literally insane
how everything just meshes together. Yeah, at the end of the day you'll
be on some podcast making the wholething sound really smooth. It was not

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like a couple others down. SoI do want to circle back. How
can you remind us how the Philharmonicsstarted? So, yeah, it was
I was singing in my college acappella group at US. We were called
troy Tones. Troy Tones, okay, everyone loves and yeah, my group

(16:30):
we were in the competition called icc A, which is what pitch Perfect
is based off of. And aftermy group, I got to say my
big song was a Circle of Lifefrom Wine. I like sang that song
and afterwards, this guy came upto me and he was like, hey,
like are you Filipinos? Like yeah, it was like cool. I
had me on Facebook because I was, and I didn't hear from him for

(16:51):
a few months, and then afew months later it's like Facebook messaged me
and it was like hey, likewe're putting I'm a producer on this TV
show called The sing Off, whichis like the voice what rockella groups,
and as an a cappella nerd andI was very familiar with the thing off
and he acted like yeah yeah,and a Tonics had won the season before,
so it was like everyone. Itwas like people knew about it.

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Yeah, And he was like,we are putting a group together and if
you are interested, here's an addressin Hollywood. They're meeting up if you
wanted to check it out, we'dlove to have you. I was like,
all right, see there. SoI drove to Musicians Institute in Hollywood
where one of the guys in thegroup was a teacher, and we you
know, met in different combinations ofus. We arranged songs, were figure

(17:36):
out what we were gonna do.And then the first time all of us
were together at once was we filmedan audition and sent it in that day
and on the show. So thatwas really just like a fingers crossed let's
see if this is like I haveno idea what's gonna happen. I was
a junior. I was finishing upmy junior of college, so like if
it didn't work out, was like, yeah, it's fine. This was
like a fun little project. Yeahyeah. And then somewhere between my junior

(18:00):
senior year the show, it justbecame real. Yeah, I've been with
them ever since. I feel likeI want to know how it is like
behind the scenes when it comes tolike forming groups like that, when it's
like, okay, you guys obviouslydidn't know each other, you know,
and then there's the cases of likeone direction where they didn't know each other,
and then they're just like you knowwhat the Filipino like they're like,

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okay, well these people sound likethey make a great group, Like how
does that like, how do youeven go about? Like all right,
guys, like, hey, likethere was now we got to make a
friendship. There was the basis ofthe group where three of the guys went
to college together. They went toMount San Antonio College and they went to
school with one of the guys fromPentatonic and so they had the bass the

(18:47):
beat boxer and Joe one of oursingers, and Nico the beatboxer. Yeah
he So they were like the ideaand then they found extras, which me
and VJ were like the extras yeah, and that was it was just they
had the idea and then so likehow do we find other Filipino acapella singers,
which like there's like five so andthen like did you guys like mesh

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well immediately because I can imagine justyou know, five different people just kind
of forced to be in one situationliterally five different personalities too, and you
all just have one thing in common, which is just talk about That was
like the big joke we'd always say. It was like we have one thing
in common, but like they lookat us and it's like our love for
music. It's like, yeah,I mean, considering we were random people

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thrown into a room, it worksso well. Like we all have our
very distinct like things that were interestedoutside of singing, so like we all
got to add in a certain way. And the way that it all like
came together, like we could nothave been more lucky with like the the
group that was put together, andlike you know, I mean obviously we
were like still together, we're stillsinging. Yeah, it just it works

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so well. And we've been agroup now four going on eleven years.
God, Like you can't be agroup that long and not like each other.
Yeah. Yeah, have you evertried learning like beat boxing from or
anything like that. I'm JV.I'm the JV beat Okay, Okay,
like I can I can look youcan only get anacapellagrip for so long before

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it's like all I got to learnsomething else, Like yeah, I know
that was my Like I'm we canwe all cycle through and let each other's
part. That's sick. I meanyou you had to hit that beat boxing
ship right off the rip, bro, that was pretty profit. In our
show, we have like a bitwhere like in the middle it's like our
like halftime like break and the guysgo off stage. Yeah, like I

(20:47):
surroriably I have a bat boxer twoand my beat box a little bit and
then I like get a break andNico comes out and shows off. And
so it's built into our show thatyou get to see me pretend to be
a real beat boxer. That's sodope. Like so when it comes to
shows, like how is that processto like you know and you, I
know, you guys have done multipleshows in different cities. What's that like

(21:07):
being an acapella group. Yeah,I mean we are a group of people
pleasers, and so when you cometo our show, we will adapt our
show to make sure you have agood time. Like we outside of like
the current like are like who's here, Like what kind of music they want
like adapt and like we know we'vebeen together for so long that we can
just like make up the set listlike on the fly and just like yell
out a song and we'll do it. So we very much wowed our show

(21:30):
forever whoever's there. And like there'llbe times where we'll like right before about
to jump in, someone will belike, actually do the song instead,
and we'll switch and so like it'sit's we're very like on the fly.
We've performed for colleges, we've doneyou know, we've done cruises, which
like the average age of cruises arelike eighty five. So we have all
of our oldies ready to go.Filipino audiences the Midwest, they love acapella.

(21:52):
We sung to some Midwest you know, middle of Ohio, middle of
oh See, that's where I gottago. I'm but in the Midwest now,
So we've got we know how toput on a show, no matter
like who were who were singing,yeah, because I mean there's so much
convincing you have to do as Filipinosconvince like hey, like you should care
about us, like we're good,Like we're not like we're Filipino, but
like that doesn't mean you're like nonFilipinos won't like the show, and then

(22:17):
Rockapella like there's a whole other barriergott to go through. It's like,
no, trust us, there's noinstruments, but you will like it and
will we have we immediately try tomake people interested on two fronts. How
like difficult is it to like keepall those songs in the back burner.
They'll be like, all right,do this song and be like no,

(22:41):
but I mean we've been doing itfor long enough that there's some like ingrained
in me that I will never forgetthat the day I die. Some of
those songs. What are some ofthose Treasure by Bruno mars Is, Like
that was our first on the show, like premiere, and so that one
till the day I die will rememberthose stupid but up up up up,

(23:03):
yeah, I mean, and there'slike September by you know, yeah,
yeah, we got we got someclassics that we always sing. Isn't she
lovely Stevie Wonder Everyone loves that.Yeah, there's something that we you know,
like I'll never forget. But likesometimes they're like uh, rop Katy
Perry, It's like no, no, no, I have a two parter
question for you now, So becauseyou've been blessed to travel the world just

(23:26):
like doing your things like an acappella group, Like what would you have
say you personally was your favorite performanceand your least favorite performance or performance where
you were just like, man,none of these songs are freaking hit right
now, I'll start with the leastfavorite. But in like twenty fifteen,
twenty sixteen, when we were firstgetting started and it was like we just

(23:48):
want a tour to say we're touringand like just get like some shows their
practice for us, and like Ithink there was a time we did a
show in Indiana where a college bookedus and there was like some sort of
mishap with a booked two performances,and so they like, we actually don't
need you, but we'll just likehave you sing before the actual show.
And then so we like sang ina cafeteria and like before the show actually
happened, and there was a momentwe were singing and like we look over

(24:11):
and the only people listening were thelike the lunch ladies, and we were
singing. It was like twenty fifteen, so I think we were singing shut
up and dance and there was amoment we're singing it and then she has
like her clumpers and she's like clappingalong. I was like I remember singing
and like watching dudes like this isa low point, Like this is yeah,
be as low as guts. Imean if you started, if you

(24:32):
started that low like on your firstshows, it only went up from there,
right. Yeah, that was tough. That was That was That's when
you realize, you know, liketouring musicians is like it's a it's a
process, you know. Like wewere tour like we weren't touring with like
a group or a tour like atour company or anything. And there were
a lot of tours that we wasjust us in a van just driving around.
Oh so it was just completely independent. Yeah, we've done like our

(24:52):
first tour was with Live Nation andthen we did one by ourselves. And
that first one by ourselves was likewhen we were you know, singing in
get you get the reality the tourlife. Yeah, And then the coolest
was probably also that year in October, in like of twenty fifteen, twenty
sixteen. Uh, Philippines love celebratingChristmas very early, and we went for

(25:14):
like a Christmas Homecoming show. Ithink it was in October. And yeah,
we went to Manila and like sayingin Mall of Asia and like there
was like security and like there waslike it was like they were like holding
people back from trying to like likesay like Seer for everyone's reference, that's
the biggest mall in Asia. Massive, that is like Mall of America,
And of course it would be inthe Philippines. I'm just saying karaoke machines

(25:37):
on everyone. But yeah, thatwas, you know, within within months
of each other doing those two shows, and that was like that was crazy
going to Manila. Just realizing theaudience that we had there was like crazy.
Yeah. So yeah, and thenoh, it's also crazy to see
that, like you know, yousaid your least favorite performance and your favorite
performance were both in the same year. Because it just like it just shows

(26:00):
like that's how it is. That'show it is. Sometimes I just wait,
just wait. So then between allof this, like at what point
does the pitch perfect two thing happen? So that was very early in our

(26:25):
career. So like we we didthe show, we went on a tour
with the sing off right after theshow aired, and we were off of
the sing off tour for maybe aweek and then we got a call from
the music director of Perfect asking usto to be it. They were looking
for a Korean group and couldn't findone, so it was like, you
know, that'll do and the darkerKoreans. But yeah, I know that

(26:48):
was we filmed within the first yearof like and no one gets those like
that was like such a crazy opportunitiesrandom right away. Yeah, yeah,
good luck, now here's everything.Yeah, And then that came out about
a year later, so we hadone year of like sitting on the like
knowing that we were in. Themovie came out about a summer one year
after the oh wow stuff, andthen was that I'm so sorry. And

(27:17):
then like the performance because you andlike a whole bunch of other groups performed
at the end of Pitch Perfect too. Was that like an actual festival or
was that something that was like fabricated. I think they say they shouted in
like Sweden that we were in Louisiana'shilarious, but yeah, I mean it

(27:41):
was like a big reunion, acappella reunion. There's only so many people
that saying professional a cappella, sothey were all on the thing off too,
and so the music director of themovies was also one of the music
directors of so we got like allthe groups were made of other groups that
did with or like had met orlike known. Pentatonics was in our song

(28:03):
and Caye Soul, the Latin groupthey were in the movie and they competed
with us on the show. Soyeah, it was just one day of
you know, running we all learnedthe whole song of any Way You Want
It, and then we all justlike learned we'd like spice it up in
the end, and we got tosee how they all pieced together. But
it was just like a one daylike Acappella reunion and so like a fake

(28:26):
crowd, like pretending it was likeCoachella, but that's how But so like
because the acappella like world, Iguess is so like there's you, like
you said, there's so only somany people that do it professionally, Like
is it just kind of like allright, everybody like just each other,
Like yeah, it's cool. Imean on the first day of the sing

(28:47):
off, not that there would havebeen any like I mean, it's a
competition, like there was money ina record, but the music director was
like trust me, Like there's nolike, there's not gonna be any like
there's no ship like fighting for thebest a cappella group. Oh so Pitch
Perfect two is basically not even real, Like everything is not real. There's
not big german people like trying tolike rip on Americans, I mean everyone,

(29:10):
Like, if there's any group thatdoes well, like no one's like
obviously Pentatonics is like, you know, but and any other group that's like
if one acapella group does well,it opens the door for other acapella groups,
you know, like if there's likethe country group that like won our
season, if there's someone that likesthem, like oh like wow, they're
so good. But like maybe nota big country fan, but I love
R and B. Like then they'llfind us, you know, yeah,
or you know, there's just somany acapella I don't know, it's so

(29:33):
nerdy. There's no reason to belike, oh no about it. I
love all this nerds. I loveit. Actually in college. I think
college groups still are a little bitlike that's what makes sense where it comes
from. Yea, So it's onlythe Barton Bellas and the freaking it's actually
very I'm not thinking about college likecompeting and it's like who gets the best
singers in their group? Like ohyeah, that competitive major was there when

(29:56):
we were eighteen. I love that. So I like literally all of this
and processing that, like you know, you're professionally singing, like it is
there any chance when you were youngerthat you would have been like maybe because
your dad was a musician. Yeah, I mean I always thought I wanted
to do a musician like music isjust like a fun hobby like I thought.

(30:19):
I mean I played violin, Iplayed piano growing up, and I
thought I was like I like it, but I don't want to be all
I do. And then I gotlike a real job and that I like
had to do that all day andI was like, I don't know,
I'll take music like I'll make thesinging and I think and my dad always
said like, yeah, you'll beback like they come back into music,
And I do enjoy It's not thatlike I want to pick one thing all
the time. I'm very and Imean I feel like everyone has to be

(30:41):
like you have to be very uhthere's you have to have a lot of
interests. Yeah, So like evenwhen I was like getting tired of like
the performing side of it. There'salways like a video to make or like
there's always you know, there's alwayssomething different to do with it, right,
philharmonic, But no, I wouldhave not guessed that's singing full time.
Wouldn't been my job. And whileit is, I just I kept

(31:02):
it. I spiced it up.I always having something else to do.
Yeah, you know, it's funnybecause I was just telling Jackie about that,
because I got into music production likelast July and so last Lie.
I feel like you've been like doingit for I don't know, I like
known you as like a DJ.Yeah, oh wow, I feel good
about myself. No, but yeah, I mean like how long. Yeah,

(31:25):
I mean I've been a DJ forlike seven years. Ok. Yeah,
So it kind of just you know, goes hand and hand. So,
like, I think what's cool aboutthe situation that I'm in right now
is that like if I'm making amix or doing stuff for radio, I'm
obviously DJing, but then like atsome point I get a little bit like
burnt out from that. It's it'sso easy for me to go to podcasting
afterwards, and then if I getburnt out from podcasting or editing and whatnot.

(31:49):
Okay, cool, I can dosome content creation here. Okay,
once I get burned out from that, Okay, cool, I could go
back to music production. Like it'sso cool to be in this field because
I just feel like it's so limitlessand so endless, and like I'm the
type of person who really likes tochallenge themselves, and I feel like once
I've maximized my challenges in one thing, I like to step away from it

(32:13):
in order to challenge myself in anotherthing. And it actually gives me a
little piece of like creative juice toapply to like, let's say DJing again,
Like after the burnout burnout is it'sit's a lot, especially for podcasting,
Like it's so easy to burn outon podcasting and you tours, it's
so easy to burn out, Yeah, because the whole game is consistency.

(32:36):
Yeah, but they also say likethe more you put out, like the
more views you'll get, Like justpushtuff out there and see what happens.
But at the same time, likeyou need to be on a schedule and
like if this would work, thenext one will work. And it's like
at some point it's just like Ithere'd be. I think maybe probably twenty
eighteen, probably twenty nineteen, therewas like a point where you just like
open your computer to edit a video. It's like I can't do this,
like IM yeah yeah, and youcould. I mean I Thermonic was like

(32:58):
a great learning opportunity in that,Like Philharmonic. I definitely burned Philharmonic House.
You know, there's like I wantedthere was a summers I want to
do a video every week, andwe did that for one summer and I
was like, let's do it again, Like we're to do it in fall,
and we're gonna do it. LikeI definitely burnt out. And one
thing that I like the this isthe last like side hustle like fun thing

(33:19):
I do on the side. ButI'm right now I'm taking a like a
project management certification certification and like learningabout project management. And there's a huge
part of it about like just consistencyand like staying and like how to constantly
have something new without you know,diminishing like the value yeah, like your
own like a like capabilities, youknow, without like diminishing what you can

(33:44):
put out. And so I'm likereally into like the whole productivity like ten
ways to like do this better,like be really on top of this because
I experienced burnout hard. Yeah,just like constantly going. It's like I
can't even look at a I can'tlook at and like I can't look sheet
music because like I need to Ineed a break, you know. So
it's tough. It's a lot.How do you how do you personally like

(34:07):
deal with burnout and get out ofit. I'm lucky enough that I like
I can jump around and do likeI have Spotify, I have Philarmonic,
I have like my UCLA classes.You know, I can jump around between
all these things. Wait, superquick, you went to USC and now
you're going to Extension. You're tryingto get in both. No, but

(34:29):
I think it's there's no easy answerto that, Like how do you manage
it? It's like you don't likethere's always like sometimes you always feel like
you're not doing enough. And I'mreally into like figuring out like best productivity
skills like and productivity like hacks totry to get more things done in less
time. M hm. But whatI've realized is that like you will never
feel like you're doing enough, andit's like the journey, it's like the

(34:52):
process of getting to that point,like you can even like looking back,
it's like if you told me threeyears ago all the things i'd be doing
now, like, oh, wellI did it, Like I'm productive.
It's like no, no, you'llnever be productive if you have an idea
that you want to be doing moreat all times. Yeah, And so
realizing that is like very was helpfulto me being like I did enough because

(35:13):
I did it, you know,I'll always feel like I could have done
more. Yea, even if Idid a million things that day, I'm
like, well they're th man andlike it's it sounds so corny when you
say it, or it's like youknow, you'll always feel like it's the
it's the it's the journey, notthe destination. It's like having that realization,
it's like it doesn't matter how muchI get done. There's drive,

(35:37):
and so I will have drive evenif I feel like, like objectively feel
like I did a lot. Yeah, that's so crazy because I've literally been
feeling that way too. And likeI've told Nico, like when it comes
to radio, like there is therethere's the time slot that I'm on,
and it's like that repetitive thing I'mlike, okay, like I feel like
I need to be doing more.What else can I do to make this

(36:00):
feel not as repetitive? And whatelse can I do it outside of here?
And it's like trying to figure allthat out, and then when I
feel like I'm being burnt out,it's also like, okay, well maybe
I just need to do more.Yeah. I mean because a few years
ago you probably like all I wantto be is like I want to have
a slot on the radio, andnow you have a shot on the radio.
It's like, well, not allI want someone have my own radio
station, and then you have yourown radio stations. Like well, now

(36:20):
I just want to have like aTV station and you have a TV station,
And then I mean I made allthose things out there. That drive
doesn't disappear as soon as you getone thing. And so realizing that,
reminding myself that it's like, wellI always want to be better. It's
like, no, you, itdoesn't matter if you did better. Yeah
better. I think it's almost likerealizing that insatiable feeling you you have to

(36:44):
learn to be okay with that,yeah yeah, And it's that's easier said
than done. Yeah. Yeah,I feel like that's it goes back to
like when I was telling me go, like when I first got on radio,
and it's been two years that I'vebeen on air, only I would
know y'all as like DJs, yeah, it's only been to you. I've

(37:05):
been like in entertainment since twenty eighteen, probably twenty seventeen, but like on
radio, I've only been there fortwo years. And I told you go
like it was literally probably like maybesix months into radio where I was looking
for other jobs because I was likeI wasn't fully grasping the moment of like
I finally made it to where Iwanted to be. If you didn't hear

(37:30):
that, no, no, no, But then I was just like,
but I was like, why amI like this? Like I need to
enjoy what I'm doing. I needto be here. But at the same
time, it's like that's what gotyou there, So it's like, yeah,
like still I don't know try itto try, yeah, And that's
why I think when with like Mexicpinopodcasts like and Mexicpino Food Fest, that's

(37:52):
my drive outside of it, It'slike, you know, like I'm not
out of part time somewhere else.Like because I really can't be but like
my part time is something that's betteringmyself and benefiting the both of us.
And then as soon as this hitson like a certain point and be like,
well I can have another part time. I can have another podcast for

(38:15):
real. That's what all podcasters do. It they got one big when it's
like, well what if I hadfive of these? And that's what happens.
Yeah. Yeah, I definitely knowlike a lot of people who do
have like that one big podcast andnow they have like they're managing like three
or four, and I'm like,god, bless, I trust they'll get
there. You'll get there too.It was like, well I did it
for myself, what if I didfor other people? And then yeah,

(38:36):
yeah it's coming. So you workfor the podcast department for Spotify. How
did that come about for you?Yeah? So in the pandemic when we
couldn't tour anymore, we were ontour when everything shut down. So I
was like, wow, what whatI do? And so I got a
job at another podcast company helping podcastersgrow their platform and like draw their offline

(39:02):
or draw their like Instagram or TikTokaudiences over to listen to their podcast,
and so that was, you know, hacking the algorithm, but the call
to action not be stream our albumbut listen to my podcast. Yeah,
and then that just led me toSpotify, where now I'm at the platform
that I tried to hack for somethat's just like full circle moment, is

(39:24):
it is really fun? And Iwork with I'm yeah, partner manager,
So I just work with shows thatare all in the same boat where all
everyone's trying to like grow on Spotify, to try to grow everywhere on all
different platforms. And I work withself help wellness production shows to try to
get their podcasts to more people.So when it comes when you like were

(39:45):
touring and the pandemic hit, whatwas that like feeling of like shit,
like was this the right path?Was that ever a thought? Well,
honestly, I kind of thank thepandemic a little bit for keeping the Filharmonic
going a little bit. When wewere on that twenty twenty tour. That
felt like a very full circle momentfor the group. Our first tour was

(40:07):
with Live Nation and we were oneof three groups and we were the opener,
so we were like the smallest,we were the newest. It made
sense we were the smallest. Firstgroup that opened this tour in twenty twenty
was the same setup, three groups, but we were the closer. Okay,
we've been the group for eight yearsat that point, yeah, six
years, seven years, and itwas like, I honestly felt like it

(40:28):
was like, well, after thistour, like what happens now? And
we didn't have an answer, andso it felt like maybe this is it.
And so that tour, I don'tknow, like I don't know what
would have happened, but it definitelyfelt like things are coming to a very
natural close. No, and sowe never got that closure that last show,
and yeah, we just kept going. I was like, well,

(40:49):
what do we do now? It'slike, well, we have nothing else
to do, Like let's make weirdYouTube videos like we'd like square acapella videos.
And we from that, we likethe idea was like how do we
make this like sustainable outside of ustouring all the time because we couldn't tour.
That turned into we have a groupcalled Philosophy phil I love and we
have other Filipino like aspiring singers likekind of in like the a Cappella World

(41:13):
two where we let them go andperform the shows that we were all doing
and we were touring, and sowe have like a rotating group of like
thirty ish singers that go do Philosophyshows. And we made like a Korean
group called Vocal Soul, and thenwe have like we've signed like a Vietnamese
group and like we're starting to workwith like a girl group. And so
like the idea of how do wemake this sustainable because we can't tour turned
into okay, we could tour,but how do we get other opportunities for

(41:35):
other Asian singers? And it madePhilharmonic way more sustainable and we still do
shows here and there, but wehave other people that do it. I
love that because you know, Ihave a lot of conversations with like my
DJ helmies and a lot of themdon't like doing clothes anymore. Yeah,
you know, I mean because it'sit's very draining, like and you know,
I've I've done like solo tours myself, and I'm just like, brother

(41:59):
is fucking Hi. I don't knowhow people do solo tours. Like if
I was not with the fourther guysin Philarmonica, I would lose my mind.
Is hotel? You know that thatlady God comes like hotel yea,
yeah, yeah, it's all byyourself and just like one of those like
montages of just like all right,let's do this. Yeah, it's tiring,

(42:20):
and I at least had the fourother guys that I was doing it
with. But it's a lot.And colleges were so much fun when I
was twenty three, twenty four,twenty five. But now I go and
sing in a college show and there'slike a sophomore, like a junior that
I'm singing to, and is like, I am fully a thirty two year
old. Oh oh, Bro,I get that same ship because when I
DJ like eighteen and up clubs,no Drake, all I'm saying it.

(42:42):
All I'm saying is it is weirda little. I'm just like, man,
I shouldn't fucking be there. Imean, I don't getting money,
but I shouldn't be here. Bro'sgot to do this like bit where we
would pull a girl on stage andI would like grind on her like like
a fake lap dance. And nowit's like I that arrest that man if

(43:04):
he's right. So now we havephilosophy and they're younger and they can go,
you know, do lap dance onstage and have a clean contest.
Oh my god, yeah, yeah, thats funny. Let me give you
all the moves man, Jesus Christ. But that's really dope, Like that

(43:25):
concept of creating philosophy and and bringingother Asian singers on into like these these
like types of like world and thenlike it's just like okay, well we
want to give you guys the opportunityas well. Yeah, and you know
also to like, I know,acapella falls under singing, and you know,
we obviously see a lot of likeyou know, whether it be Asian

(43:49):
groups or Asian singers, it's ap I month. Let me just say
about come on man. But youknow, I think with the way that
you and the group moved a tonicsand everybody, and especially what you're doing
now with philosophy, like it opensup the doors for a young Filipino kid,
a young Asian kid, a younglike Mexican kids would be like,

(44:12):
oh, we could make a fallon a cappella group. Like that's pretty
fire. There's two parts of itwhere like you know, there's sometimes where
we'll have an audition and be likeI grew up watching you. I watched
you so long ago, and I'mcareful so long there is a moment where
it's like, oh whoa, Likethere was a random elementary school kid that
saw Filipino singer that saw us,and it was like, oh, now

(44:34):
I'm a singer, and it's likethat is that is a cool moment to
have where they you know, likeI watched you singing and now I am
doing that too, and they're learningtreasure, you know, har music and
that is as weird as it isto be like, yeah, I watched
you ten years ago. Yeah,yeah, that it is cool to have

(44:58):
those like full full circle. Yeah. Do you do you feel some type
of way because I'm thirty one,so, you know, shout out to
the thirty right, here's my thirtysecond birthday. Oh shoot, birthday,
happy belated man. So we're notthirties, right. Do you feel some
type of way when like you seea younger Filipino cat call you like Koa
or Tito. Yeah, like don'tdon't know, no, Yeah, well

(45:23):
I think it's nice for like mypersona in the group was baby Face Trace
because I was like I looked alot younger than I actually was, and
now I'm a little bit you know, I don't look eighteen like I did
when I was being called baby facetrace, and so I think if they
do it, it's like, it'svery much a joke. But it's getting
to the point where it's like,you're not kidding anyone right calling me,

(45:45):
But it's yeah, it's fine.I mean, it's it's I also my
younger sister, she's five years youngerthan me, and we never did the
Kuiah. Yeah, so it's wheneversomeone does it now it's like, I
have they know it's a joke.Anyway, the first time that someone very
just like randomly calls me that andthey're not kidding, I'm like, okay,

(46:05):
it's been fun. You know whodid that to me? It was
a Nego Pasqual when he was onwhen he was doing like a radio like
station tour with Roslin, and thenwe had met for the first time.
He's like, Quia, so niceto meet you. I'm like, I'm
like, I'm like, please,don't do that, mind you. I

(46:27):
was like twenty seven or twenty eightat the time. Bro, I'm like,
don't do that. Twelve lego,and you called me Elmo every time
I saw because there's like a Filipinothere's like a star in the Philippines.
His name is Elmo, and youlook just like Almo, and so he
couldn't call me. I was likeyour Elmo was like, okay, I'll

(46:47):
take that. You're so funny becauselike obviously Nego's Filipino and I'm Mexican.
So when like a lot of likepeople that we hang out with our an
Eco's friends are Filipino, they'll callme at it, I'm like, wait,
hold on, I'm like, wait, hold on. First off,
I'm not Filipino. Second Monday,wait hold on, give me y dragon.

(47:10):
Yeah, it's just so funny,like they like some people will message
me there, like at the JackieI was like please, like we're around
the same. Yeah. Honestly,I learned so much of my like Filipino
culture from Philharmonic I because I halfwhite, I grew to Chicago, I
was all like around white people,like I was like, I was in

(47:30):
a very Caucasian something and a lotof what I thought was Filipino culture was
actually Hawaiian because my I'm like fourthgeneration and my I just know that I'm
Filipino, but my great grandparents cameto Hawaii before it was a state.
So a lot of what I thoughtwas like my Filipino culture, like I'm

(47:51):
learning is is Hawaiian and so evenit was like a not because I used
to call my like grandma and grandpalike manong and manong, Yeah, which
is not the gawlic it's and solike it's just a lot of like the
very normal. The like was somethingthat I did not know they kept our
manager we call her, we callher Rose. I when I first saw

(48:12):
that, I don't think I've evertold the Harmonic this, I was like,
like, why are we all that? But then someone said like,
oh, it's like I like lookedit up and it was like that is
like sister, and it's like it'show you called older relatives man man,
and I was like, okay,cool. Crazy. So so like basically

(48:32):
like you didn't necessarily grow up withlike too much of like your Filipino culture
in your household and you had tobasically learn about your culture while you were
with the Philharmonic. I was learninga lot about what I meant to do,
and a lot of things just likemade sense at the time, like
after another that like when I waslike learning about it, like yeah,
Filipino like that's copied from Hawaiian,Like that's honestly one of the things,

(48:54):
Like one of the stories I tellis when I was in high school,
I saw like a Joe Coy specialand he made he was making some joke
about, you know, someone inhis family, and I was like,
oh, like that's my aunt,Like we must be related because the way
he's telling that story is like whoelse could that be other than like that
is so specifically my relative related andso like you know, like seventh grade,

(49:15):
Trace was going like, oh yeah, no, my uncle Joe KOI
because how else how would he haveknown that story about my like my aunt.
Turns out it's a very common experiencewomen, just me. But yeah,
that was honestly like my Filipino experience, like figuring out what is like

(49:35):
comes from? Where did you Imean, at any point did you ever
feel like you were like Filipino enoughor like not Filipino enough. Oh yeah.
I used to work with like oneDown and Kumu and I made a
whole series about like what being halfFilipino means and in Chicago being like one
of the only Asian people there.Like my it was my personality trait,

(49:59):
like was token. And then Icame to California and that was not a
personality traite anymore, Like I couldn'tbe the Filipino kid that was. And
then because I met people like Imet Filipinos and it was like I'm white.
I went so there was like ausc Filipino club and they like saw
him, like, oh, youshould come to the club. And I

(50:20):
was like they probably said like twoor three words in the gallic and I
was like, I don't understand.I've always felt like I was like I'm
not Filipino enough, and I think, what like in doing that stuff with
one down in Kuma, I realizedit was like Filipino enough. It is
not a thing like I'm half Filipino. Even saying I'm half makes it seem
like less because I'm not full,you know. But like my half Filipino

(50:44):
experience is still a Filipino experience.I don't feel weird about not knowing what
was Filipino or the fact that likemy family didn't say ote, my family
said mano, and and I waslike, oh, because I don't know,
I must be a fake Filipino.And I'm like I was half and
I grew up here but like thatdoes not make Filipino. Yeah, no,
I feel like they and we've hadthese talks before of like because eventually,

(51:07):
you know, when we do havekids, they're gonna be Mexicpino and
it's then they're they're gonna have thatkind of crisis of like, well my
Mexican on my Filipino? What amI like? Half am I this?
Or it's just like, well,as long as you, as a person
you want to learn about your culture, then there's really no half full,
you know, it's just I amwhat I am what I am. I

(51:29):
mean, honestly, sometimes I thinkDad's more Filipino than media culture. And
it's one of those things where it'ssuch a small nuance where it's like you're
not gonna call it like you're nothalf, but it's like I very much
get why just telling like, ohyou're half Filipino, you're half Filipino,
you have because half means less andit's just one of those things that it's
like ingrained and it's like, Idon't know, it's now I don't say

(51:50):
as much like I'm half Filipino,I'm part Filipino maybe, but like you
know, it gets the nuances ofwhat you call it. But yeah,
yeah, there is there's you know, it comes with like a little bit
of like I learned a lot bynot calling myself half. I love that.
I absolutely love that. Hold onout you can't hear it, but
that's some applause, right what I'msaying. But trace between everything that you've

(52:15):
done in your long thirty two whatwould you say, out of all your
experiences, has been the most rewardingfor you? Most rewarding? Ooh,
that's tough. I think the twothings. I think I spent a lot
of time, especially like with onedown in Kumu, talking about like making

(52:38):
Filipino content for Filipinos and that's soneeded, and like that was like such
a breath of fresh air to makestuff that was like I'm not thinking about
who else this is for, likeI have to worry about doesn't this makes
sense the general public is talking toFilipinos. That is one highlight. I
think the other highlight is realizing onthe other end that you can make content,

(53:00):
you know, for the cool quotemasses and still like be very subtly
Filipino. So I would say philharmonicwhen we had like flashlight go viral was
one of the like one of ourfirst big YouTube songs where it's like this
is a popular song. We werein pitch Perfect two. We were being
Filipino is like a big part ofit because it's our name, you know,
and we were Manila Envy and pitchPerfect, you know, and it's

(53:22):
like you were also the lady Boys. We did not know, We did
not know, but yeah, Imean, I think the biggest thing was
like we are not vaguely Filipino,but we are passively Filipino, and it's
like it's very much part of ourbrand. But like you didn't it was
like for the the masses, youknow, and Filipino culture to people that

(53:45):
I wouldn't know it was Filipino andweren't necessarily asking for it. But now
you know something about it. Mmhmm. I love that. I feel
like I just like you're just solike I don't know what the word I'm
looking for is, but like youjust you have a lot of advice to
give, and like it's it's likeyou have like a lot of advice to

(54:06):
give, and it's really like goodadvice because like you were you like throughout
this podcast, you've been talking aboutlike you know, wanting to constantly do
more and it then now it's likeclicking for me, Like shit, maybe
that's like what I'm trying to likeunderstand about myself. Yeah, it's really
that, man, you can puttherapists underneath. I mean, I've been,

(54:28):
you know, doing a lot ofthese. It's it's like it sounds
nice when you put into an hourlong podcast interview where it's like, look
at all these like pieces, likethese nuggets of wisdom you can have,
and it's like, no, itwas ten years, like what am I
doing? And so it's just likeit's of course it's gonna sound like really
cool. I talk about the coollike the highlight reel things I've learned,
but like another part of like Philharmonicthat we kind of talk about it is

(54:50):
like after Philharmonic, when like we'reintroducing ourselves, you're like put in parentheses.
It's like Philharmonic from this thing offthe Lately Show James Cordon and Pitch
Perfect too, and that's like whatfollows our name and that's like some really
cool stuff. You Yeah, thoseare very cool things that we can say,
but there are so many things thatwe could have put that were so
close to happening, like people wealmost opened front Tour, like other movies

(55:12):
or TV shows that we audition for, they didn't get the part, you
know, and so I don't know, like when you put all your highlights
reel in the brackets, you know, or like in a one hour podcasting,
it's a lot. It's very easy, Like it sound like insightful,
but it's like no one knows whatthey're doing, but figut. But you
know what's cool about all of that, Like especially like the shows that I

(55:35):
mean, it's not cool that youguys didn't make the shows that they didn't
make, right, but like itjust goes to show that, like you
guys are solely group. You guysare still doing your thing, and like
you guys have been trying for likeyears and years. I mean, I
think at least for me, thefirst thing is obviously pitch perfect too,
but like, you know, seeingyour guys' names pop up, whether it
be a like Dodger Games or evenjust like getting I think I just got

(55:58):
to follow from Nico maybe like acouple of months ago. I'm like,
Okay, this is cool, butlike you guys actively do things to make
sure that you guys are still togetherand still actively pushing. Whether you guys
are willingly do this or not,but you guys are actually like pushing like
the Filipino culture forward by continuing whatyou do. So you know, from

(56:20):
one Filipino and Mexican so another,you know what I mean, Like we
applaud you, man, we applaudyou, and I mean, I really
got it. I'm very grateful forthe other more guys in our managment film,
like for like a rose for youknow, keeping everything together. Like
it's not easy being a group togetherfor so long, but like I think
even you know, we've all understandthat there's like a bigger thing that comes
from all this. Yeah my god, so many these things I say,

(56:42):
like sounds so corny the second atleast, I'm not. It's like this
is there's a bigger picture for real, there is like these moments realize like
oh well this is more than justlike some dumb YouTube color that we're doing.
Like this is like someone's gonna watchthis in major music because of this,
So like that is what keeps itgoing. And like that plus making
sure we like scal it so wedon't burn out. It's like this makes
it so, you know, don'talways damn you know what we need to

(57:05):
do. We need to make likea like a Filipino music history book or
it has like where where it likedocuments like the start of like the YouTube
era where it's like Jeremy a jPhilharmonic and everything kind of just like go
down, like the fucking well thefact that could be a book. It's
pretty cool, That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I feel

(57:25):
like, like you said, bythe way, nobody stole that steal that
that's my idea. I feel likelike you said that that bigger picture and
like yes, although it sounds likecorny like you say, it is,
like, but that's really what itis. And I feel like that's what
Nico and I are trying to dowith this podcast and are doing with this
podcast and the food Fest. Likeit's so funny when people come up to

(57:46):
us at the food Fest and thenthey just hand us their baby. They're
like Mexicanos, like Okay, youdon't know me, but like like he
goes said, we applaud you andlike you are freaking me saying for you,
thank you, And what's coming upnext? For you, Trace for
me just I don't know. Still, we're going to Spotify Philharmonic. We

(58:09):
are filming something with uh a ramsplayer this weekend. We're starting to get
back into the social media game whereyeah, I want to get back into
like Instagram and TikTok and like that'swhere we got our start. You know,
it was like finding an audience onsocial media. So I want to
do that again. And yeah,that's I mean, just we're going to
keep on keeping on. We're gonnatitle the podcast like so corny with Tracey.

(58:39):
I wish there were better ways tosay just like I have this idea
where it's like, you know,it's like the journey, not the destination.
It's like someone said that, Iwish there was a better way to
say, going to bed, wherecan everybody find you? Trace and fill
Harmonic as well. I am atTrace Gainer on all social media platforms and

(59:00):
the Philharmonic at the t h E. Philharmonic with an f I L on
all socials. There we go.My name is Nico Blitz and Trace