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May 29, 2024 • 80 mins
We sit with our homie DJ AUDIO1 who talks about his experience having a stroke online while DJing on Twitch.

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Come most Kayo, Hello everyone,what's up? Yeah? Okay man,
DJ Audio one in the building.How are you bro? Coming all the
way from the Bay today. Yeah. Man, I'm blessed. Man.
I'm grateful for every day and I'mgrateful to be here. La is such
a it's so amazing. Man.I want to move here. Man,
Why haven't you made the move yet? Because of family? Yeah, Like

(00:23):
I have a family responsibility, LikeI can't leave my mom, my stepdad,
my brother. They're important to me. So yeah, and even even
though it's like a one hour flightor six hour drive, like just being
close to family, you know whatI mean. Yeah, like when she
happens, like excuse my language,now, you're good. Yeah, when

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things happen, you want to bethere immediately. So yeah, yeah yeah,
mom My mom just hit seventy andyou know, she's like pretty getting
close to end of life. Soit's just one of those things. But
even even so, like we're justwe're just ingrained out there, you know
what I mean. Yeah, Yeah, I don't know. I feel like
anywhere I go, I feel likeI want to move there, you know.
Like I was just in Denver asingle the my weekend and we had
such a blast out there, andI'm like I want to move out here.
But then but it's like after afew days, I'm like nah,

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kind of like you know when youfly back, you know, when you
can fly back to the Bay andyou're flying over to the Bay right You're
just like, oh man, thisis home. And then you get off
the play and you feel that breeze. You're like, see, this is
what the Bay is about. Yeah, I guess La could be the same
way, you know. Yeah,it's just that we have like Smagan ship
when we get onto all of that. Man, bro, as soon as
you hop off the plane in La, you just Inhale just all the bad

(01:27):
ship. Just like, damn Bro. It's such a vibe out here.
Man, there's you know, Iwas just talking with the lift driver right
now and you're talking about how likethe Bay like Northern California Southern California almost
feels like two different planets. Yeah, it really does. Anyways, it
needs to be two different states,honestly. Yeah. I mean that's a
political you're not gonna go there,but yeah, no, I mean it's

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I just love coming down here.I have a great support system down Yeah,
and it's kind of one of thosecrazy things, like and I've talked
to him so many DJs yesterday becausea lot of DJs is soay they feel
like yo, when I like,I feel like I'm not like respected here,
but when I travel somewhere, everyonerespects you and it sort of feel
the same way for me, Like, I know I am respected in the
Bay, but when I come toLA, like the love is like it's

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diffferent. And when I go tothese different markets, I go to New
York, Miami, Texas, whereDenver, like Chicago, like the love
is incredible and it always makes youfeel like, yo, I want to
move here, like I could bepart of this. Yeah you always remember
like I kinda go back home.Bro, You're just like, damn,
I'm getting so much great hospitality.I'm grateful for everything. Man, you

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know what I'm saying. I willI will say that. I've told Nico
and last night I literally told mybrother my sister in law that like the
biggest difference I think with parties inthe Bay in LA is that day parties
in SF are like non non comparableto day parties over here. Yeah,
like it's just different. Yeah,No, there's a big difference. Pretty

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much like for me, right offthe rip, all I can think of
is R and B and ribs becauseI'm just I'm ingrained in that seat and
shout out to NOPA, slaps andthe whole. Yeah. Yeah, that's
just one of those things that likeI saw it happen like in real time
with with NOPA and all our crewout there, and it's just incredible what
he's created and how that movement hassort of like been like multiplied across the

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country because now he's taking it acrossthe country, but now there's all these
different day parties popping up everywhere,like all these different markets and even overseas,
and it's just incredible. Like again, going back, I just had
this early, incredible conversation with thelift driver about you know, like how
people post pandemic prefer a day partyversus go out to the clubs or like

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nightlife is dead. Like I'll bethere to say it. I know a
lot of people don't want don't wantto admit it, but like as Seth,
nightlife is pretty much dead man.Well, Temple just close. Yeah,
it's in the process of closing.Yeah yeah, yeah, And that's
crazy, Like the major big roomsin the city are gone, and to
me, like the way I meanI've come up over the past twenty years,
like most of the spots that Iplayed at are no longer exists.

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You know, we're just talking theother day. I was actually talking to
Felly Fell yesterday. I'm like,I remember when you were hanging out at
Infusion, like so to me,like a cellar and those steps of spot,
even Ruby Sky, Like I'm sorryyou said sellar seller in a minute.
Yeah, we're talking about ten plusyear Yeah, yeah, those were

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the spots because to me, Ijust remember like that mean, oh no,
that's that's Ben. Yeah, mymovie. I get to shake sometimes
because of my shit. No,you're good, bro, Yeah, Benny's
squeaking, y'all. Many's playing.We need the Benny Camp, right,
we do, we do. ButYo, like it's crazy how many spots

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used to exist and now like it'snon existing. I mean obviously, like
times have changed, you know,like real estate people moved in, tech
people moved in. Killed the scenein the Bay a little bit. But
the beauty about the Bay is thatwe fucking thrive. We just make shit
happen wherever, even if it unfortunatelyeven like a spot like Beauty Bar,
which unfortunately just closed recently, LikeBeauty Bar closed. Yeah they have the

(05:17):
best wings, well they had verycheap wings. But then, you know,
in the Bay, like we justmake it happen wherever it is,
if it's a small spot, abig spot, whatever it could be,
anywhere it could be. You know, like I play at Del mar over
in the in the Marina, likewe make a crack out there. Yeah
yeah yeah, but wherever it is, like in the Bay, we just

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find the way to thrive. AndI think that's the way. That's the
way the culture is in the Bay, like whether it's DJing, whether it's
hip hop whatever, like even ourhip hop culture in the Bay, like
we have everything from like you know, social michievan Hiro yeah to like E
forty mac dre Is and all that, you know, that whole thing,
and then you have PLO and thatwhole movement. Like like we find the
way to make it happen. Andit's crazy when people from out of town

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come in and they experienced it,they're like, Okay, this makes sense
now, you know because people arelike like to us, like blow the
Whistle is a classic. But whenpeople from out of town come in and
they actually experienced it at a party. They're like, Okay, I see
why this is a classic. Tellme when it goes a classic, I
see why. Like Kisha cole Loveis a classic, and that's a bag
classic, you know what I mean. You know it's crazy because you know,

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so I didn't start DJing until Imoved to lay So when I was
back there, you know, Ididn't get to like DJ those type of
like Bay Area parties, right,And it wasn't until I moved out here,
you know, I started DJing.I'm like, Okay, I know
for a fact I can't play Barriermusic just because like it's a regional thing.
And the funny thing is when Idid go back to the Bay Area

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me growing up, I would alwaysgo to parties and hear Bay Area music.
Then when I went back to DJ, I'm just like, Wow,
it's kind of weird that like alot of the stuff that I used to
function to or just like Bayer andmusic is kind of like non existent in
these clubs anymore because there's so manytech people who took over because there's so

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many like transplants who just like cameinto the Bay area, and I'm just
like, it's so weird to beback home and not be able to play
the music that we grew up onand it just like smack like it used
to. And you know, like, granted, there are a couple parties
that I can do that at,but for the most part, it's like
it won't work. Right. Ithink the pandemic helped a lot of the

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Babe movement too, you know,because we exposed it to the world,
yeah, you know, especially onTwitch. I mean we all basically met
through Twitch and stuff, and youknow, years later, we're still rocking
on Twitch. And I think thathelped expose what we were doing, you
know, because a lot of peoplewere not aware. They're like play some
Bay shit like okay, you know, and it was fun, you know,
but yeah, it's incredible, man. I mean that's kind of one

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of many reasons why, like Ifeel like I would miss that, you
know what I mean. Yeah,But the beauty now is that it's it's
being accepted everywhere. The West Coastsound is being accepted everywhere. Yeah,
that's true. Like right now,I mean, Kendrick's ringing off even in
Toronto. Bro. That's yeah,Bro, that's like the best. It's
like universally like loved. You're justlike, Okay, this is the best

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thing. And we're not going toget into the whole Kendrick, but like,
yo, just let the let theWest Coast breathe, man, let's
have yeah, you know what Imean? Yeah, man, I mean
shoot, I played it twice lastnight within two hours whatever. I think
every DJ yesterday played it. You'renot down so and different versions of it

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so different word like the house versionsthey have like they have well they do
have house versions, but they theyhave some new like that's some good remixes
out right now there's like a battlecut to prove remix out there. Oh
okay, I need the battlecare remix. Man, that's not going to fire
something like that. So before Iheard, you know, I was also
giving props to a good Morning Gabe. I'm not sure if you know him,

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but he's he's Blast DJ. Okayyeah, So then I'm talking to
him and I'm just like, youknow, what I love so much about
you and Blast and your whole movementis that you've been able to take blasts
West Coast sound yeah, and takeit internationally right Like now, I see
people who are influenced in the Philippinesdo like a very similar sound or even

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like Australia and even in the UK. And it's cool to see like the
I guess modern West Coast genre ofmusic go worldwide. It's incredible, man,
Like I think people underestimate I meanbecause everyone always looks to the south
and the East. Yeah, butlike a lot of things were are influenced
by the West Coast. Yeah,And it's crazy when you talk to people

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from overseas. I get the opportunityto do that all the time. And
it's like a lot of people overseasare very very like not just an abert
but they're like very interested in WestCoast life, you know. Yeah.
I was talking with my friend whojust moved to Japan and he's like,
bro, culture is everything out here, saying are all about that, Like
and you know, Japanese people theyreally go in like when it comes to

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like digging for records or hip hopor whatever, B boy in whatever,
they go in with lower rider cultures. They're like, bro, they won't
accept no, like regular raggedy assright. They wanted to be like how
it looks like in La like foreignPala it's a sixty foreign pala, so
that just says a lot about theculture. Yeah, I'm also hearing that
because people play like GTA, Like, oh I am enamored West Coast because

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of the GTA. That's how funny. I mean that makes sense. Yeah,
that's that's actually funny. Because oneof Nico's cousins from the Bay he
came down to l A. He'slike, so we're San Andreas and this
and that. I'm like, okay, wow. I was like wait,
hold on, and like he wantedto go and see like parts of like

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LA that were in GTA. Iwas like, okay, wait, wow,
that's crazy. But it's definitely likea thing. Like I've even heard
that there's like Japanese Goombia group inJamaic. Yeah, and I've heard their
music. I'm like, this iscrazy because I feel like I should be
understanding this, but at the sametime, it's just the like actual music

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that I'm understanding, like the wordsI obviously don't understand. But I'm like,
this is insane, and it's socool to see how so many people
are just embracing culture. Like yeah, no, it's it's incredible. I
mean, we just have so muchculture here in Cali in the West Coast,
that of course is going to translateto the rest of the world.
Yeah, I think I think itfeels welcoming. It feels welcoming, like

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the West Coast and Cali feel welcomingcompared to the rest of the US.
Like when you go to New York, Like I love New York, but
it feels like every it's like everyman and woman for themselves. It's just
like everyone's super aggressive, which Irespect. But every time I've gone out
there that like, yeah, youWest Coast cats are way too chill.
I'm like, bro, Like weget sun most of the years, we

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get the beach. They're looking people, I could go to the beach and
go to the snow in the sameday. No, literally, I mean
we paid the price for living nowhere, obviously it's so expensive. Yeah,
look at all the things that wecan do out here. Yeah.
Yeah, I heard that there wasa thing called like the like the Cali
Adventure, and it's basically you're hittingthe snow, the desert, the beach,

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and I forgot farm, I don'tknow something else. Yeah, like
you're you're hitting like all four seasonsin the same day and it's like that,
like you're literally traveling through in theday. Yeah, yeah, it
makes sense. You go to BigBear er snow and then you come to
the end of the day at thebeach like being in that Steffon going to
Tahoe in the same day, Likeyou could do that easily, you know,
Bro, That's like San Francisco andone whole day you wake up it's

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foggy as well, and it's inthe rain, and then it's sunny as
well, and then the nighttime there'sa little bit of brightness. I'm like,
Bro, I always tell people tojust pack a light jacket or a
hoodie because the weather just changed,especially in San Francisco, had changed.
Yeah, obviously I live in theEast Bay. I live in Hayward,
Union City, So like the differencebetween SF weather and the East Bay,
it's you could be it could besixty degrees in SF and once you hit

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Livermore it's like one hundred degrees.So yeah, it's just it's nuts,
Bro. You can't be like thatout here too, though, I can
imagine. Yeah, once you startgoing towards like the bej and OC,
like that's when it starts becoming likegloomy and cloudy, Like right now it's
sunning over here. I looked atthe weather in oc and it's like cloudy.
I was like, okay, great, yeah, I'm wearing pants today.
Let me just audio one man,So, how long have you been

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DJing for? Again? I beganin nineteen ninety one. I was eleven
when I first started. Eleven.Yeah, so you're like straight up nineteen
eighty that's your birth year. Mybirth year seventy nine. I'm like,
oh shit, okay, okay,it's Scarbio too, so I Scorbia there
you go here? So, likewhat triggered that that? Like want to

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be a djit at eleven? Honestly, what it was is I was fascinated
by me sick. Thankfully my motherand father they played all kinds of music,
especially Latin music. And you know, my my dad's from Mexico,
my Mom'sador So that's like a mixtureof cultures, you know what I'm saying.
And even though they're very similar,they're very different as well musically as
well. They weren't beefing right.You know, It's crazy because a lot

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of my family does live in laand there's always been this whole disparity between
Mexicans and Abadors. Yeah the sameman. You know, it's like and
it's like I also hear the samething about Filipinos, like there's from different
parts of the Philippines, right yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're
from one part like Visaion or wherever, like they're like from Sabu. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Basically if you're likeTagalog like Manila, there's like beef

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with like vision and like Cebu AndI'm just like, oh, I didn't
know this existed. I'm not,yeah, but really what it was,
It's just my house was just amelting pot of music. My parents were
also into funk, into disco.Like my house, we grew up listening
to war. We would listen toChica I Go the Eagles that were like

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incredible, and then Michael Jackson printsall of that stuff. And then you
know, as a kid, Igot introduced to like rock, and then
I got introduced to hip hop,and then it just was one of those
things where I was always listening tothe radio and I remember there was always
like an hour a day where oran hour a week where the music would

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be NonStop, and that I wasfascinated like, how are they doing this?
How the hell are they doing this? And then little by little I
started realizing that those were DJSA Andthen what happened was in my where I
grew up. I grew up inHayward, California. There was a lot
of gangs in the area. Sothey my middle school created a diversiery program.
They got students from Chabot College andthose students would come over and they

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would mentor us. So they basicallypaired us with like a mentor that would
help us out with our homework,that would keep us off the streets.
And my mentor's name was Orlando andhe was a DJ, and so it
was basically like the perfect person toask, can you tell me about this
DJ? And he broke it alldown and it was just like it was
very influential. And then he didan assembly like a like a lunchtime thing,

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and he brought out us turntables andI just finally got to see it.
He's like, hey, man,come over here. And I didn't
know how to DJ at the time, and he's like, hey, just
go pick a record that you like. And I picked the record and then
he put it. He puts iton the turntable and he's like, hey,
I'm gonna county three. When Icounted three, you just let go
all of the record. I'm gonnajust go like this and you let go
of the record. I'm like,okay, it's like one, two,

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three, I let it go.And it was like the reaction. It
was like that moment I noticed thereaction all my classmates, They're already happy
that I'm up there, like ohshit, but just the react, the
instant reaction to the song, andit was just like whoa, Like later
on, I mean later on,I mean after I did drugs over the
years, but it was like feelingit was like a drug. It was

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just like whoa. It was likea wave just came over me and I'm
like, yo, you grabbed everybody'sattention. Yeah. It was just almost
like like almost you're like a puppetmaster in the six right, Yeah,
You're like you can you know evennow, like as we're growing and we've
done this for years, it's likeyou could really play with people's emotions based
on the music you play. Youknow you can't you could piss people off.

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You can make people happy, liketake your poison, right, like
you can get really great. Likelet's say I they don't want to pay
you, or they haven't paid you, Like, let's start some fights and
let's get it out. Yeah yeah, you know play BBT. Yeah it's
just shaken, right, but yeah, no, it's it's it was just
like incredible for me. And fromthat moment forward, I'm like, I'm
fascinated. I really want to dothis. And obviously I started, like

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a little by little, picking upequipment and I was buying records. I
just kept I just started buying records, just things that like I feel like
at some point I'm going to putinto play. I got to ask you
this question, right, because you'vebeen DJing for twenty fucking years. I've
been over thirty years okay, ohyeah, thirty thirty four years down.

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Hey man, congratulations because that man, I hope to do that. You
know what I'm saying, your lifefor Man, here's the thing about being
a DJ year it's like being ina gang. You're once you're in your
in for life. And man,people always they like DJ's quid all the
time. Yeah yeah, right,like as soon as the new controller comes
out there, right bro. Also, I was gonna say, right,

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so you've been DJing for thirty fouryears, right, I've been DJing for
seven years. I got hell ofship. And I always think about,
like, man, I wonder howmuch fucking money I've spent over these seven
years on DJ equipment for your thirtyfour years of DJ How much money do
you feel like you've spent on DJ? Way too much? Man, especially

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especially you know, you know thefunny the funny thing, I'll say this
much. It's a lot of money. But here's the thing. Back in
the day, it was really justthe technique twelve hundreds and having a mixer.
Yeah, you really it was liketoday, when a new mixer comes
out, you would buy it.You would just buy a solid mixer,
and that was what you did forlike years. You know. Really the
cost back then was really like records, yeah, you know, and you

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know, and records really varied.They were like four nine, nine ninety
nine. And then if you havelike back then, there were imports.
Imports were like anywhere from ten tothirty dollars. So and so with we're
playing hip hop, most of thestuff was four ninety nine to like nine
ninety nine. But if you gotinto like house or drum and bass like
I did. You're talking about tentwenty dollars records. Man, it got

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really expensive the year. So likewhen like CDJs and Serado came in,
that was like a godsend for everybody. Was obviously that changed the whole game
and everything. But yeah, it'sit's got to be a couple hundred thousand
dollars that I you know, becausebecause honestly, like you could ask any
DJ from back in the day likethat was into vinyl, Like like you

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would pay your bills and whatever wasleft you would just like buy records.
It was just like an addiction,like buying records, going diggy and go
into these different spots and like itwas very addictive. So if I went
over to your crib right now,you just got Hella records. I got
about right now. I have aboutprobably fifteen hundred two thousand records, Oh
my god. At the most whenI was married, I had about fifteen

(20:15):
twenty thousand. It was we hada team to twenty thousand. Yeah,
my ex wife hated me because thewhole garage was records. Oh my god.
Oh, Jackie's dad would love tosee your freaking garage. He got
so much he has so many ofMy mom literally gets so annoyed on my
dad when she sees like male comein and it's just a square. Well,
he's like a music enthusiast. Heloves music, and like you never

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when I started dating Nico and hefound out he was a DJ, he
like really like asked Nico hello,question and like, and back then,
my dad would his friends were DJs, and like he would go to parties,
help out his friends and carry theircreates for them. But yeah,
my dad is super into music andso luckily enough he just asked Nico hello,
questions. Yeah, he'll be He'llbe DJing on like his iPad and

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he's like, yeah, Nico,check out this program. I'm like,
man, I have no clue whatthis program. That's it's incredible, man.
And it's crazy. In the pastfew years, especially like post Pandemic
forward, like vinyl has come backin a major way. Yeah, Like
every show you go to there's likevinyl for everything. Now it's crazy.

(21:25):
Yeah, well, vinyl has becomemore of like just part of merchandise for
like an artist now. And Ilove it because you know, you know,
back when I can't even say whenyou and I were growing up.
But like, you know, whenI was like buying CDs in the early
two thousands, right, like Ialways felt a connection to the artists because
I bought their CD. I rememberthe first CD I bought, it was

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like Lincoln Park. It was likeReanimation or all yeah, yeah bro,
And like since then, I've justloved Lincoln Park. The animation was a
great and then the remix album hadexhibit on it, like yeah on it.
Oh my gosh. Yeah, thatbrings back a lot of memories.
Two thousands was basically two thousands wasthe time that I was coming up in

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the clubs. So the early ninetiesobviously I spent a lot of time practicing,
but then I started doing like houseparties. We did sorority parties like
at cal State Hayward which is CalcadesBay now. And then I got involved
in the rave scene, so likeI started doing house German. So I've
been playing drumming bass for a longtime, So I did that for years
till like about two thousand and two, two thousand and three. My buddy

(22:33):
Greg J he was part of CrooklingClan back in the day, so you
know, yeah yeah, so hebasically pulled me out of the raves and
it's like, yo, we gotto start doing these clubs, man,
because now the stuff that we've beendoing. What people don't understand about the
se Franisco Bay Area is that wehave the term open format now right,
which is basically the ability of playingmultiple genres. To us in the Bay

(22:53):
that was like and in Calli ingeneral, we all grew up playing multiple
genres, you know what I mean. I know in the eighties and nineties
you were like if you were adisco DJ or hip hop DJ, house
DJ, but to many of us, if we were rocking parties, we
had to have a crate of everything. Yeah, so we had our Latin
crate, we had our our housecrate. We had our freestyle crade.

(23:15):
I mean, obviously freestyle it's alwaysbeen big out here and it still is.
If you go on Twitch on anyday, it's always freestyle every day,
right, Yeah. They parties onthe Saturday is like reestyle. I
mean yesterday, you're not down,Like every time a freestyle song come out,
like literally the whole crowd of singingword for word. And that's the
only that's a cali. The onlything that I can think yeah, yeah,

(23:37):
yeah, yeah, but yeah,like yeah, we've been open format
or I I you know, recently, I've been hating the term open format,
and I started thinking about, likeI just remember that was a time
in the two thousands, like midto late two thousands where of course the
clubs wanted hip hop. And thisdoesn't sound controversial, but clubs wanted hip

(24:00):
hop in the club, but theydidn't want to advertise hip hop. So
I feel like they came up withthe term open format as I'm waiting the
guise like yeah, yeah. Andso lately I've been more it's like when
people ask me like, are youan open format DJ? Now, I
just play what I love, likeI love that. So I was even

(24:21):
thinking about getting it, like youknow, because I was thinking, like
fuck a format. But it's literallylike that, like because I get that
question a lot, like because I'vebeen doing more now, I've been doing
more corporate events like high end weddingsand like those private events, and so
it's like what do you play?Because people have like a niche or something
into me, like I just playedwhat I love, yeah, you know,

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And it's funny like trying to explainto a client to like what open
format is, right because if yougo on YouTube right now, which is
super popping for you know YouTube mixor you know DJ mixes right now,
Like for the times I've put openformat, it does work because the average
person doesn't know what that even brands. Yeah, no, it's the having

(25:06):
to sell yourself to clients is veryinteresting. But you just tell people like
what are you into? And youjust try to make it work, you
know what I'm saying. Because tome, like I love the ability.
Like for me, like a greatset is I'm playing hip hop, but
then I go into kumb and thenI go into DM throw some some like
you know, some freestyle and youknow, and then go back to hip

(25:29):
hop. And just especially now withthe technology we have, we have like
stems now, like we could reallylike pull vocals out and instruments, you
know, we could really make thingshappen, you know what I mean.
It's not as abrupt as before,you know, like now you can you
know it was really abrupt when youhave to switch genres. It was very
abrupt. But now it's like likeyou're playing a hip hop track, you
just pull the beat out and nowdon't beat and it's like you're basically like

(25:52):
priming people like, Oh, we'regoing somewhere, you know. Yeah.
Yeah, that's literally what I wastalking to Nick about last night because there
was somebody and I'm like, I'mnot gonna na names. I don't know
like the name of it here wego, mind you, you don't even
know when we're filming this, Solet me just put that it was likely
because like I feel like now Ihave a good ear for like what good

(26:15):
DJing is and what like is likeyeah, okay, so like I was
listening to this DJ and then wentfrom like Misery Business into like into YG
like literally back to back, andthen from there went to like Natasha Benningfield

(26:36):
like and I was just like,okay, there's I get open format,
but that's too open, right,Like that's like it's you know, there's
there's a there's a rhyme or reasonto the way that you do these things.
You gotta you gotta like it isn'tlike planning, but just having a
strategy, you know, just likeeverything in life. You know what I'm
saying, You gotta like find waysto like, like, for me,

(26:57):
I left playing like my Lisa inthe mix, but to me it's like
I'm not just gonna drop it in. I gotta like lead up to it,
Like every record's got to lead upto it. So like in my
like how I teach in the schooland the city, like I told people,
like I told my students that yougotta have like a like an entrance
strategy and an exit strategy. Solike if you mix a record and it

(27:21):
doesn't work, you got something toback it up just in case. And
if it works, cool, thenyou just keep adding to it. So
there's a strategy to a lot ofthis, and some DJs work that way.
Some of them just freestyle it andit is what it is. Sometimes
people just like that could have justbeen a vibe and to some people it
could have been fun and to somepeople just jarring and shit. To me,
I just try to like make thingsincremental where like it makes sense.

(27:44):
Okay, I see why you didthis. See I told you that shit,
and I was like, this shitneeds to make sense. I have
this method that and I don't knowif you see it this way, but
I call it like a sandwich method. Okay. So the sandwich method is
basically like I will have like avery familiar song and then I'll maybe have
a song that's not too familiar,okay, and then I'll play a song

(28:06):
that is familiar again just to keepthe listener entice. But all of them
kind of have to be within thesame like mood or genre. Right,
So if I'm playing a song likeI don't know, you don't have to
call by usher. Then I canplay like a little bit of a newer
R and B song that kind ofmakes sense in to another more familiar R
and B record, so that peopleare like not too lost in the sauce

(28:29):
of like I don't know what thefuck this guy is playing, right,
you know what I'm saying, Yeah, it's I think it's DJs. We
tend to experiment and we just haveto be mindful of the audience sometimes,
you know, yeah, yeah,yeah, because it is easy to get
people lost, you know what I'msaying, Yeah, now I have.
It's funny. I went on threadslast night because my friend posted I'm not
gonna put her on blast. Butyou can see this here. It says
DJs with free range, open format, bruh. It needs to be cohesive,

(28:53):
no particular direction. My guy,you lost me at sixty minutes in
counting message, right, So Ireplied to her, I said, I'm
sorry, but I love Phil CollinsonPhilip Bailey mixed with pessel plumalling. But
at the same time, I kindof would do that, but I would
try to find a creative way ofputting together. And you know what's cool

(29:15):
about that too, is that likebecause it's in a creative way, and
you know, for you, likeit's obviously in a more like tasteful and
meaningful way because it just I mean, I've heard you play before, so
you do everything very like tactical,right, Like it won't sound random,
right, you know what I mean. It's not gonna sound like a train
wrecker, like what the fuck isthis guy doing? But it's more so

(29:37):
like, oh yeah, like Inever thought that I would hear these two
songs together, but it makes sense. Yeah, it's fun experiment, man,
And it's just like, but Ithink a lot of people like to
experiment in life. I think,you know, and that could really be
it could either be really good orreally bad, and I can see the
bad side over the good side.But like that's the beauty about what we

(30:02):
did on Twitch during the pandemic.You got to experiment experiment and got the
real time like feedback, you know, because I remember, like I remember
especially summer twenty twenty, we werereally wild in on twitch right, and
so I would always play I wouldplay like a beat, I'm like,
what should we ouch? I wouldtell my audience what should we match up?
And my friends were really big onNickelback, so I'm like, oh

(30:22):
so Nickelback, okay so and thenone of my buddies, Chris g I
love me some, one of myclose homies, he was like, bro,
try playing Tupac with Nickelback, makeit happen. And I'm like,
all right, let's give it ago. And it did it, and
it was like an incredible moment forus. There. It's one of my
it's been it's been on my bandcamp for like four years, probably one
of my biggest selling mashups ever.Oh it's like like two dollars, like

(30:47):
it's just you know, like butit was just one of those things,
like bro, like because people don'texpect that, they don't expect like it's
like all about you, yeah,but then all you have of a sudden
your Nickelback coming in instead. Thatsounds I'll send it to you you'll trip
because it's like it sounds trippy,but then you're like, oh, you

(31:08):
know what, this sounds kind ofhard. So it was like, I
think in the pandemic, a lotof people, not just us on Twitch,
but like a lot of DJ's likestarted DJing during the pandemic. Yeah,
because we were all at home,we had all this time, and
a lot of people just got aroundto experimenting. That's why we have these
scenes that we have now, youknow. Yeah, And you know,

(31:30):
I feel like with all this experimentation, especially on the Internet, comes with
a lot of like promotion of oneself, right, So like you know,
we'll see a lot of like Instagramor TikTok videos of like the most random
mashups. Sometimes the shit is cool. Other times I'm like, you could
have kept that to yourself. Mygod, right, But then you know,

(31:51):
I've noticed that there's a topic goingaround right now. And I believe
it was my boy Soush. Hehad like tweeted this the other day and
he was like, I was justat a DJ set and the DJ literally
played like five or six like TikToklike DJ transitions like in a row,
and so I feel like, what'scoming with like the promotion of all these

(32:15):
like either random mashups or whatever yousee on the internet. Like, you
know, there's a lot of peoplewhich back in the day was like you
know you're swagger Jack and like yo, like that was really my shit,
Like what are your thoughts on,Like what's happening right now? Because there's
just so much information and there's somany transitions just going left and right and
everywhere. The way that I lookat it is that no idea is original

(32:37):
anymore. Yeah, we just gotto leave it that way, man,
because I see a lot of peoplealways like like I'll give I'll give you
a few examples, like Chris Via. Anytime Chris Via does something, everybody's
going to jack that shit. Yeah, and there's been big DJs that have
jacked them before and they didn't creditthem. But at least people know where
you come from. Another example,another friend of mine, Spider Tack.

(32:59):
Yeah, it's R and B andribset from like twenty two. Everybody's jack
every routine from now For color Zach, his routines have been jack Jays,
Bonoza's you know, like you know, these guys are good and incredible.
When everybody's taking bits and pieces ofwhat they do and turning it into their
own. Now, back in theday, it would have been swaggerjacking.
It would have been you not beingoriginal. But we live in different times

(33:22):
now. I don't I mean,I don't advocate you jacking somebody shit.
I always say, like, getthe influence and turn it into your own
flavor. Yeah, what I'm saying, because like, literally everyone's playing the
same thing. We're all downloading thesame songs from the same record pools,
the same sites. What are youdoing to make a difference? Like what
are you doing to sound unique?You know? And I think for us

(33:42):
making our own edits making our ownremixes, making our own production that makes
you stand out, you know whatI'm saying. And the presentation of it
all as well. It's crazy youmentioned four Color Zach because I remember booking
him at this club back in SanFrancisco a couple of years ago, and
it was the first time I hadever heard el Son Adito at a club,
right, So I was like,oh, like you could play this

(34:05):
ship like that's cool? And Iremember him mixing it was elsonn Adito from
What's that Chris Brown song? WithBusta Rhymes, where Buster Rhymes is wrapping
up at me now, yeah,look at me now? Right, So
he was doing look at me now, and then he looped the da da
da da da da da da dada da from Busta Rhymes into I was
like, Oh, that's fucking fire, and that's all myself. Like,

(34:27):
yo, as much as I wantto take that, like, I'm not
gonna do it, but what Igot from that was, oh, I
could play elsonn Adito at the club, right, That's what That's the only
thing I really took from it,like I could play this song at the
club, and so literally as youwere saying, I took that idea.
I remixed it into my own andthen I do this thing where it's like
elsn Adito into kiss Me through thePhone by Soldier Boy, where it's like,

(34:52):
you know what I mean. Solike for me, I'm like,
okay, I'm doing exactly what itis. I get influenced by someone who
I know is like better than meor someone who I look up to,
and I'm just gonna make it myown and see how much more of that
influence it can really like help myown DJing. Right, No, I
mean I think all of us justgot to have our own We all have

(35:14):
our own approaches and the way thatwe want to do things. We just
have to like keep it fun,you know. Ultimately, I think a
lot of DJs are so in theirhead about like sounding a certain way,
you forget that sometimes even just playingthe right record will even be even greater,
you know what I mean, Likeyou could be in your you know,
because we go through it. We'relike I want to play this and
this, I want to play thisinto this, into this. But then

(35:36):
sometimes, like you'll play party inthe USA, you just just cold drop
it and that'll be the biggest moment, you know. So it's just crazy,
you know what I mean. Likelike I find myself these days,
especially post pandemic, I'm actually playingmore house EDM and pop than I am
hip hop because of the places I'vebeen playing that, especially in the corporate
environments and stuff. But I alwaysfind a way of bringing it back to
hip hop, like just finding away even with Kendrick, Like I'll be

(35:59):
like playing a house set and Ihave a way to transition from house into
you know, like they now likeus, you know what I mean,
Because that's like the biggest fucking record, you know, and just keep it
moving, you know what I mean. You know, Jackie is actually she's
going to enter her DJ era verysoon and she's about to take some DJ
class. Nice. Yeah, Ihave like I've learned with Nico and like

(36:22):
here and there. Mainly it's mejust being like can I use your laptop
in the control there? And thenI'm like I have my headphones in and
then I'm like did that sound good? He goes, yeah, but you
could do it better. I'm like, okay, So I just like keep
practicing and keep practicing, but nowlike I'm seriously like gonna take classes for

(36:42):
it. And I told Nko waslike, I'm like, my biggest fear,
aside from like just learning everything technically, my biggest fear as a DJ
is going to a club and mylaptop not connecting to the like anything.
I'm like, I saw it happento him. Yes, I'm like I
would literally just break down in tearsand be like I'm okay, I don't
want to do. Really. Whatit comes down to is, well,

(37:06):
whoever wherever you learn from is basicallylike just being prepared, you know what
I mean. I still find out. A lot of DJs today, even
professionals, even vets, are notprepared. Like people just kind of like
they don't prepare ahead of time.Like the beauty about the products that we
have now is that you can makesure you have the right drivers and all
of this stuff, you know whatI mean. But the technology is changing
so fast, like you just gotto be ready for it. Like my

(37:30):
laptop five and M one and I'mon Big Sir, and then you know,
record Box seven just came out andit won't load because I need Monoey
or higher. So now I haveto upgrade a monoray to like keep up
with the new version, you knowwhat I'm saying. I just played on
the A nine for the first timein Denver and I was on three point
zero Serrato and it wouldn't connect.And then I realized, oh, because

(37:51):
the A nine came out after threezero, so I had to actually upgrade
through three one three for it toconnect. But the problem is three one
three was not made for Big Sir. It was made for Monterey, so
technically it shouldn't have installed, butit did, so I was able to
do the gig. But it's oneof those things where like, but now

(38:12):
everything's like not working right with threeone three, So I still have three
one three zero like connected. Youknow, my laptop and you see Jackie
a lot. It's a lot ofmoving pieces. I mean it's that's technical
talk, but it's it's a lotof moving pieces. You just have to
be like just you just have towatch the scene, you know what I

(38:35):
mean, You just watch everything that'shappening. But you know, just being
updated with your programs and just beingprepared for anything, even like having different
cables, like my buddy calls them, oh shit cables, Like if your
laptop dies, you could connect yourphone or something like something. The main
thing in the club or any environmentthat you're at is don't let the music
stop. Once the music starts,you just can't stop. Yeah, I've

(38:55):
had plenty of nightmares over the lastthirty years. You know what I'm saying.
You just got to keep it movingsomehow, you know. What what
would you say, because you know, over the thirty years, and especially
because you are a teacher right nowfor younger DJs or you know, just
DJs in general, Like, whatwould you say is like the biggest issue
that you see, like the newerDJs have the biggest digit and the biggest

(39:19):
issue I see is that a lotof them see what they see on TikTok
and feel like that's all there isto it, like or that it looks
very easy that I can do it. But once you actually start learning those
first two weeks when you have tolearn counting bars, counting beats, you
know, tempos, when you startlearning all that stuff, all of a
sudden, they're like, bro,this is too much. You know,

(39:39):
I thought it was just pushing afew buttons and you made it happen.
I'm like, no, there's justa whole gang of work behind the scenes.
You know what people don't realize asa DJs is that, like the
ones that are really good, likeninety percent of the work is behind the
scenes. Ten percent is the execution. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
So when we're out there, we'rekilling in it, and people are

(40:00):
like, yo, you're fucking killingit. You're doing things because we put
in all this time behind the scenes. Man, Like, people don't see
that, you know what I mean. You know, we're grateful that today,
like we could document the behind thescenes. People love to see that
and sometimes it can be really boring. It could be a time lapse because
we spend so much time, youknow, like the time we spend in
serato just organizing records. Like it'sjust like, yeah, it's crazy.

(40:22):
But I think there's a misconception thatDJing is very easy, and it really
is. I mean, it canbe, but there's a skill level to
it, you know what I'm saying. I think people are trying to dumb
that down now that there's so manyprograms out there that are just like it's
almost like you're starting to notice,like even when you go on social media,

(40:42):
it's almost like there's infomercials for likelearning learn learn how James had did
this? Learn how this person didthis. It's just like, bro,
like it's it, you know,and it's almost like they're trying to hack
the system. Which more power toyou if that's the way that you do
things. I feel like you've gotto like learn from the bottom up,
you know what I'm saying. Yougot to learn like the technical part first,

(41:04):
you know what I'm saying, Liketo me, like learning your how
to like count your beats you're phrasing, and then your beat matching. Once
you get those things down solid,take it, you know, go from
there. But people, but people, but people, the people today they
just want to like, like I'llgive you some prime examples, like I've
I've tried to like get DJs thatI've taught to come and play with me,

(41:27):
or even people just younger DJs,and they're like, nah, I
want a headline. I'm like,hey, I want you to come open
for me because back in the day, like if someone told you to come
open, now it's like an honor, you know what I mean. Like,
so that's how you know there's beena change of times, right,
like we're before someone asked you toopen. Now is like an honor.
Right Like now I'm like, yo, comeing open for me. Nah,
I'd rather headline. Yeah. It'slike this mentality like they just want to

(41:51):
go from zero one hundred. It'slike you got to crawl before you can
want. And the thing is,I think to like what it is it
has to do lot with like yousaid, social media and TikTok. They
think because they get this one videothat has like seven hundred thousand views and
like thirteen thousand likes, it's like, yeah, I'm that headliner now it's
like, whoa, No, that'snot it, Like you really, like

(42:14):
you said, how to build yourlife, there's a strategy to like learning
how to DJ, but also promotingyourself and all that. Yeah. I
was just having a conversation recently withmy brother. My brother is a tech
YouTuber. He's a His channel haslike one hundred and fifty thousand, like
hell subscribers, like he's legit,And he also works for vid iq,
so he teaches people how to likeYouTube. So I'll holler you guys,

(42:36):
won't you shout up as YouTube?Yeah, it's El Heifer reviews on YouTube.
Man, he's super awesome. Mybrother Man, my younger brother Beta.
The conversations that we were having wasabout how everyone's trying to go viral,
right, Like everyone like as DJs, we know every DJ wants to
go viral, have that one moment, right, But it's like, okay,
you go viral, what's next?Yeah, So it's like you've got

(43:00):
to have a strategy in place,Like if you do go viral, then
what do you do with that moment? How do you capitalize on it?
No one ever thinks about that.It's just most people just feel like they're
just gonna get lucky. They recordedsomething and like there's millions of views on
it. Okay, how do youcapitalize on it? Do you have a
game plan? But that's like inlife in general, and even in this
career, we have to strategize everysingle thing. Yeah, a couple of

(43:21):
ways to answer your question on howto capitalize on moments like that. I
mean I checked for it all thetime, and I actually just made an
adjustment, like not too long ago, because I had to take a break
from social media over the past coupleof months. But as of recently rather
you know, I've been able tolike pick back up. And one really

(43:42):
big thing that I was keen onwas like, Okay, make sure your
website is up, and then makesure that you have an official like booking
email. I think that just likeofficializes just everything, really, because I
think it's one thing to just havea super viral video and then it's like,
Okay, now I don't know whatto do anymore, Like are am
I going to get any bookings ornot? And you know your dms could

(44:05):
get flooded, but then that justgets a little bit messy. But bro
Ever, since I put like anemail in my bio, it's been fucking
solid. I'm like the wedding increriesare a lot more organized and like,
I think one issue that I see, especially with like the younger DJs,
not younger newer DJs, is thatthey don't treat it as a business.

(44:28):
Right. At some point, itis fun, right, and I love
at every single part of it,not every single part, but I do
love it right, but like atsome point in time, like when you
do take this seriously, like howare you going to capitalize this passion and
make it into a business. Thatis the biggest issue I see, because
I think a lot of it islike very clout driven, especially when you

(44:52):
see like you know, TikTok orInstagram DJs with like ninety thousand followers one
hundred, two hundred and three hundredthousand. It's like, oh yeah,
I want to be able to dothat too. I want I want fucking
cloud, I want people to commenton my ship. But it's not about
that, and you want to justbe the next or like Z and like,
but they don't want to get thework exactly next, like a lesson.

(45:13):
It's just like oh well yeah,I I It's like almost like they're
entitled to be that hard. Yeah, it's it's entitlements. Such a weird
thing these days. But uh yeah, give me a second. I'm sorry.
It's good. I mean I was. I was talking to my boy
Anthony Midas. He does cozy right, and I love what he's doing.

(45:37):
And he was like, bro,like, if DJing can buy me a
house, that's how I know I'vefulfilled everything that I could do when it
comes to DJing, I'm like,thank you, Like that's the great,
that's a really great mindset to have. Like there's a goal in mind when
it comes to all of this.It's not just let me dj for fucking

(45:58):
five nights in a row, sixnights ro Like you know, did that
pre pandemic? Yeah it gets toyou man. Yeah, so you got
to have goals in general. Andlike the beauty about the way that I
teach is that I don't force peopleto become career DJs. I just want
them to learn, like do thisfor fun. Like let like, if

(46:19):
you love music, do it forfun, don't do it for the money,
don't do it for the cloud,you know what I mean. That's
like probably the biggest lesson that Itry to teach is that it isn't all
about virality or like becoming famous.You know, Like some DJs that I've
taught, they just want to playfor their friends, you know what I
mean. Some of them want tobecome pros. There's someone you know at
the school that we teach at,it's param mind. Like they have an

(46:43):
electronic music program. So they learnableton, they learn how to like master,
they learn how to like songwright.They it's like these big programs and
the DJ part is just one partof it, you know, especially for
the electronic guys like women, likethey have to perform this music, you
know, I mean, and andin festivals, you know, a lot
of them have to do DJ sets. So it's like and it's funny,

(47:06):
Like I've had these funny interactions withthe production students because most of them are
not interested in DJing, so Ihave to kind of change my approach.
Most of them don't care. Imean, they produce electronic, but they
don't care. But I had toswitch it up on them, like,
Okay, maybe you don't care,but let me show you how you can
improve your production. So by justby you learning how to DJ, you

(47:28):
know where to like put your dropsyou know where to like your accounts and
all these different things, and theway I show them visually with Serato with
record Box are like, oh,you know what, that totally makes sense.
You know. It's all of asudden, like a light bulb goes
off for them, like I didn'twant to be a DJ, but now
I kind of do, you know, because now you're kind of showing them
how is your song going to fitin between these other songs, you know,

(47:49):
like if you're like an EDM orlike, we have a lot of
dubstep DJs, right, so it'slike, let's see how your track fits
between like a real massive dubstep songand another massive dubs again the Sandwich man,
how does your song fit? Andthen they listen to it like,
yeah, I got a lot ofwork, but at least you know how
to put them together, you knowwhat I'm saying. So let me ask
you this. Some of the biggestDJs in the world, whether they be

(48:10):
like Zed, Calvin Harris, evenlike knock Too from San Diego is going
crazy right now? Right, doyou have to be a producer in order
to be a successful big DJ?And this day and age, it really
depends if you're trying to be anartist. You know what I'm saying.

(48:31):
Like what people need to separate isthe DJ and the artists are basically two
separate entities, you know what I'msaying. Like Calvin Harris was an artist
before he was a DJ, youknow what I'm saying. But in some
ways, like not To was aDJ first and now he's an artist,
you know what I'm saying. Sohe had to put in all that work
because we remember not too when hewas fifteen he was putting like ten years

(48:53):
ago, he's putting out like TWRKremixes and stuff. And imagine that guy
is like the shrine NAC in arow, you know what I mean.
Like that's incredible, bro, Butthere are lanes for everybody. You can
have a successful career as a DJ. But if you are releasing music and
you're selling, you know, you'reyou're selling out places, you're probably gonna

(49:16):
make it as a you know,you have to be an artist as well
and a producer. So it justdepends on it depends on the lane.
I've had that conversation with myself overthe years because I've always wanted to like
play at DC and ultra and fora while there I was producing stuff in
the mid twenty tens. But thenI got to a point where when you
start talking to people about like management, you have to pick a lane.

(49:42):
And the problem for me is thatI love so much music I can't like
like like me, I love basshouse, right, so I could go
full on bass house, but thenI'm kind of compromising who I am because
I love playing base shit, Ilove playing South Sandre and I love playing
BANDA. I love playing DM likeI love mixing it all. And some
of my homies have told me maybeyou should do that and then parlay it

(50:05):
into that, but it's just youknow, the how much competition there is
now, you know what I mean? And to me, it's like,
you know what I'm I've gotten tothe point now where like, I'm happy
with her what I'm doing, soI don't have to worry about being the
artist. I'm just focused on beingthe DJ and getting it done. I
love that, and I'm you justgotta be grateful, you know what I'm
saying. Overall, So I lovethat, man. I recently went on

(50:28):
a podcast called Guys That Listen,and I actually mentioned you on the podcast
because you know, I think justto preface everything, right, like during
the pandemic, you actually had astroke, like while you were djaying live
on Twitch, Like, can canwe talk about that? Right? Let's
talk about it? Man? Yeah? Man, I mean what was that

(50:51):
like for you? Like that wholeexperience, It was basically one of the
most important days my life. NowI look at that day. It was
December thirtyeth twenty twenty, and Ilook at that now, it's like my
new birthday because like everything that's happenedfrom that point forward, like my life
changed forever, you know what I'msaying. Obviously, during the pandemic,

(51:14):
when the pandemic started, I stoppeddrinking, and I you know, after
being on a tenured bender, itwas a good time for me to clean
up. You know. Obviously Iknew I was going to be home for
a long time, so out ofrespect from my family, I stopped.
You know, I wasn't going todrink while I was at home. So
it's crazy, like on Twitch,everybody's going ham doing crazy, but here
I am like being mister sober.Right. But the problem that happened was

(51:37):
that I let myself go, likeI wasn't working out anymore. I wasn't
going to the gym, I wasn'tdoing jiu jitsu, I wasn't doing kickbox,
and I was doing all these thingsbefore the pandemic. And then I
just kind of let myself go andI just gained hell a weight. I
was doing the Uber Eaights thing,and like, I let myself go.
And then once those meds ran outin December, like it got really bad,

(51:57):
you know what I mean. Soit's almost like I was trying to
I was burning the candle on bothends while at home, you know what
I mean. While I was burningthe candle on both ends. DJing seven
nights a week before the pandemic.Now, I was burning the candle.
Like I'm streaming in the morning,streaming at night. I'm producing all these
mixes, I'm doing all this stuff, doing ghetto house, doing all my
edits for DMS, like I wasdoing a lot, and I wasn't taking

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care of myself. And yeah,that day, you know, thirty minutes
into that set, like it wasvery scary, man. I mean,
obviously I was DJing and the firstthing I remember was I was touching the
record and I can't feel the recordanymore. This is weird. And then
I'm like, well, I canfeel it with this one. And then
I'm like something ain't right and I'mpushing the buttons. I can't. I

(52:44):
can't feel the buttons with this leftyou know, with this left hand,
this left arm, like it's it'sstarting to go numb, like this is
weird. And I'm like, thisis weird. And then all of a
sudden, my body goes like thisand I'm like, oh shit, I
think I'm having a stroke. LikeI already knew right off the rip,
like I think I'm having a stroke. So I went on my stream deck
and I turned the camera off andthen I pressed raid and then I just

(53:05):
like fell fell to the ground andsat there for like a few minutes,
like laying down. My doctor saidthat I was clinically dead for about two
minutes, like I was like,so I had a Basically, I had
a very It was a very interestingexperience because I was between life and death.

(53:27):
And really I want to say itwas almost religious because I was It
almost felt like purgatory. It feltlike I was just in a dark room.
It was almost like being in ahospital. It was like it felt
like forever, but it was literallylike two minutes and I had a conversation
with somebody and you know, I'mnot gonna get too deep into it,
but it was basically like is thisit and my gone? And they're like,

(53:50):
no, you haven't fulfilled your life'smission, you know, and until
you do that, you're not goingto go to the next level till you
fulfill your life's mission. And what'smy life's mission? And like you're gonna
have to figure it out, butyou are gonna have to deal with a
lot of pain. You're gonna gothrough a lot, but it's not your
time. And then all of asudden, it was like I'm back,

(54:15):
but the problem now is that Ican't move, Like my whole body's limp.
Like I'm telling my legs to move, my hands to move. The
only thing that can move is likemy eyes. And I learned later on
that that's the It isn't like theheart attack or the stroke that kills you.
It's the fear, you know,like when you like when you're in
a car accident. Sometimes it isn'tthe accident, it's the fear because like

(54:36):
you're stuck or like people that havebeen caught like in earthquakes, like we're
like the building's pancakes on them,Like it isn't the the quake kill them,
it's the fear, like like ifyou're like, if you're compressed,
you're gonna like the fear is gonnakill you. It isn't the It's crazy
how that works. And it's almostlike that adrenaline is like it's so much
that you're just like, oh mygod, what to do. And I

(54:58):
don't know what happened, but itwas one of these things where I'm like,
damn, I think I'm gonna dienow. And it started like like
every important memory in my life,from my childhood, my marriage, everything
started flashing before my eyes, andbefore you knew it, I heard like
a very muffled voice yelling at me, and it was like kind of running
towards me, like it was likeyou better get up, And it was

(55:23):
basically me yelling at myself, likemy conscience was yelling at me, like
you're not gonna fucking die here onfucking twitches die, You're gonna go out,
motherfucker. You better move, Youbetter fucking get to that door,
get some help. And somehow,I don't know what got into me but
I was able to like slowly crawlto the door, like I just used
my all my might and I wasable to crawl to the door, and

(55:44):
somehow I was able to just andthen I heard some footsteps and then the
door opened. And when that happened, I looked up and it felt like
like almost like like it was God, but it was my brother and he's
like, oh shit, okay,And then I'm trying to say something to
him, but he told me laterlike you were talking gibberish. I lost

(56:05):
my like my speech, like Iwasn't making any sense, and he knew
right off the rip I was havinga stroke. So he ended up calling
the ambulance and yeah, within tenminutes they showed up. And thankfully where
I live, our local hospital,Washington Hospital in Fremont, they're the local
stroke center. So it was like, oh my God, perfect fucking time,
and yeah, got there. Theyput me into I was in ICU

(56:29):
for eight days, so I spentNew Year's alone, going into twenty twenty
one. And imagine, this isthe middle of COVID, middle of the
pandemic, so my family couldn't comesee me, nobody could come see me,
and it was like very fucking scary, and I'm just grateful that I
survived at you know what I'm saying. But it was tough because I was
alone and in the ICU, Iwas the only patient that was not dealing

(56:54):
with COVID everybody else, So allthese other patients were like isolated. They
were in their rooms, but likethey were like plastic and all this shit
covering their shit. So everybody wasdying of COVID and then here I am
fucking fat guy with a fucking stroke, you know what I mean. And
yeah, it was scary, butit was lonely. It was very dark

(57:15):
time. And the fuck. Thething is that when these traumatic things happen,
it basically unlocks all this trauma fromyour past. So all this shit
from your whole life, everything that'sever happened that you were just swirling through
your mind. And I'm grateful thatthey had an in house therapist that was
in there, and she would comein one hour a day, like when

(57:36):
I was just laying there, She'slike, just talk to me, What's
what's going on in your mind?And I'm like, my family, I'm
worried about my mom, my brother, you know, my sister I'm not
mad. She rest in peace,you know, like and just talk to
me, and like she's just justlet me know everything. And from that
day forward, like like I hadgone through therapy, you know, in
the past, because you know,I was married and I got divorced and

(57:58):
it was really rough on me.But like I've been in therapy pretty much
ever since, and just I'm anadvocate for therapy and mental health. And
obviously right now we're in May,it's a mental health therapy, you know,
mental you know, health Awareness months, and it's also stroke Awareness months.
So for me, like I feellike I'm an advocate for that.
Like I've survived this shit, andlike I can speak from the heart about

(58:22):
it, you know because I've livedit, and I implore everybody to just,
you know, just take better careof your health, take care of
your mental as well. And evenwhen we had that conversation about like stopping
to drink, you know, slowingdown, I don't tell like I don't
you know, there's people out therethat will preach and will be like fuck
drinking, Fuck this, fuck that. I'm like, do whatever you want
to do in life. You're anadult. You know exactly what you're doing.

(58:45):
You know what I'm saying. Whenpeople have drama and they say,
well, you know, they saidthis and that, I'm like, look,
you're an adult. You said whatyou said, and you meant it.
Yeah, you open your mouth.Obviously you could lift through regret it
later, but you say what yousay. We know we're in control of
everything. We just act like we'renot so that we don't, you know
what I mean. So what Itell people is like, because you know,

(59:06):
in night life, we're surrounded bypeople that do drugs, that do
that drink, but honestly, Idon't. You know, people feel like
I'm sometimes I'm like judging them.I'm like, you do what you want
in life. I'm not going tojudge you for you know. All I
tell people is to just moderate,you know what I mean, Like I
have to moderate food and everything.You know. I weigh like three hundred
and thirty. I'm at two fiftyright now. I've gotten down to two
twenty. I've obviously gained a littlebit, but I'm trying to be as

(59:30):
healthy as I can. You knowwhat I'm saying. I'm trying to get
out at least a mile a dayif I can, you know, what
I'm saying, little things if Ican work out when when my health allows
it, you know, because Ideal with chronic pain pretty much every single
day of my life. And somedays, like some days are good where
like I wake up and I feelfine, and some days I can't get
out of bed and it sucks becauseusually those are the days where I gotta
go gig. So it's like Ijust gotta like really like watch like what

(59:53):
I do. That's why I reallykeep to myself. Now. I don't
go out so often, you know, Like I really just go out for
avent special events or when I headof work. But yeah, I don't.
I don't. I don't judge peoplelike you do what you want,
you know what I mean, butdo everything within reason, you know what
I'm saying. I think we justlive in the society, especially in the
past, you know, ten twentyyears, like especially in the clubs and

(01:00:15):
in hip hop and just EDM cultureand just music culture, like like you
know, turn out for what youknow what I mean, Like like like
if I'm buying five bottles, they'rebuying ten. Okay, we're buying twenty.
Like if I'm having two shots,I'm having four shots. If I'm
having a double shot, I'm ina quadruple shot. Like everyone's trying to
do each other and they don't realizethe damage that it does to you.
I know because I did this foryears. Bro, Like like Jamison and

(01:00:37):
for Net were like, my shit, Like that's all I did. Like
it got to a point where Iwas drinking a Jamison bottle a night,
you know, like I couldn't survivewithout it. And then I noticed that
during the pandemic when I was soberingup, everybody was drinking was that cobrew?
Yeah, And like literally I can'tfunction with that cobrew. And I'm

(01:00:58):
like, yeah, you need toslow the fuck down. Yeah, what
I'm saying. So like for me, I just tell people like take my
story as a just as a cautionarytale, you know, because I'm here
to talk about it. I've hadfriends pass away in the past year or
so. You know, had afriend, you know, another DJ friend,
Teddy Roxman from San Jose, hepassed away from an aneurysm, you

(01:01:19):
know what I'm saying. And thenanother friend, Carlos Alfonso, he passed
away from some help related issues.And it's just happening now, sadly,
a lot of people are passing awayyoung, and you know, to me,
it just makes me grateful for everyday. We have to be grateful
for every day and just having gratitudein general. Man, Like you know,
if you wake up, you shouldbe grateful for that. You know
what I mean. You're able tobreathe, You're able to walk, You're

(01:01:42):
able to move your eyes, You'reable to like, you know, you
have a house. You know,you have your gear, you have your
family, you have your loved ones, Like it's important because tomorrow is never
guaranteed. And that's something that Ilearned on that day, you know what
I'm saying, And that should happen, like Tomorrow's never guaranteed because that day
I will up. I mean Iwas obviously feeling like shit, but I'm
like, here we go. Wegotta do this again. We got to

(01:02:05):
get on the stream. We gotto do this and that we got to
prepare the New Year's stream. Iwas trying to prepare for a New Year's
stream like that was like my bigthing, you know, and everything changed
from that moment forward. Yeah,so I just live with gratitude, Like
gratitude first for everything you know,like like that song, gratitude is a
must, you know, like literally, you know it's that's my story pretty
much when it comes to this.So yeah, first and foremost, we're

(01:02:29):
glad that you're still here and thatyou know, you've taken the steps to
like you know, you said yougo to therapy, you have. You
know, you're so much an advocatefor mental health and for awareness of like
stroke victims. Like what would yousay, I guess is the biggest piece
of advice for somebody who is goingthrough that is like or is like to

(01:02:52):
be prepared for that? I guessyou can mental health? Yeah, I
mean obviously, I mean the thingthat sucks about the healthcare system is that
it's so expensive, but there's justthere's so many resources out there, you
know, you I mean the firstthe first thing is just being able to
talk to somebody, you know,find somebody that you can trust that you
could talk to, and then figureit out from there. And that could

(01:03:14):
be tough because a lot of uslike to like hold things in, you
know what I'm saying, Like I'llgive you a prime example, Like I
was in a relationship like over ayear ago, and you know we only
dated for a year and like myhealth, like my mental health declined,
like once we broke up, Likelike you didn't see me for a while,
you know what I mean, LikeI let that you know, last
like last summer, like you didn'tsee me at all because I was just

(01:03:37):
I was working, but my mindwasn't there, you know what I mean.
I think a lot of us,like we tend to just put on
a mask and like and I gotto a point last year where I was
like I'm tired of having this fuckingmask on, you know what I mean,
Like right now, I'm in sucha better place than where I was
last year, you know what I'msaying, Like I was really broken,
and you know it's the first timeI'll say it, but like you know,

(01:03:57):
I you know, I'm wanted totake them in suicide, you know
last summer, you know, itgot that serious, you know, because
I'm like, you know, likejust think I felt like my life wasn't
panning out. But thankfully, likesomething pulled me back, like no,
you can't do this. You knowwhat I'm saying, Like, oh,
pulled you back just thinking about mymom and my brother, you know,

(01:04:20):
Like damn, I'm because I startedthinking about it. I'm like, because
a lot of people will say thatlike suicide is selfish, and in some
ways it is, but you justdon't know what people are going through,
you know what I mean? Becausepeople treat each other like shit, but
you don't know exactly what they're goingthrough, you know what I mean?
Because I just remember I was DJinglast summer and people were like in my
face about shit, and I wasjust like, yeah, okay, no

(01:04:43):
problem, you know, like Ihad this mask on, like yeah,
sure, I'll smile, but youdon't know, like sometimes like the biggest
miles like hold like the most pain, you know what. People say that
a lot. And I just rememberlike all last summer, you know,
and up till like before my birthLike it was my birthday last year,
I turned forty four, and fromthat moment forward, I actually went to

(01:05:03):
Atlanta, I went to like thisDJ convention, and like from that moment
forward, like things sort of transpiredfor me. Like I just learned in
therapy. I learned that like yougot to leave the past in the past,
you know what I'm saying. Alot of us tend to hold the
past against each other and even ourown past like just because some bad shit

(01:05:24):
happened to us, we're gonna letit affect everything, you know. And
there's this thing like you can enjoythe present, you can't work towards the
present or future if you're letting thepast like still live, you know what
I'm saying. Like we've all beenthrough some crazy shit in our life,
and you know, we call itbaggage, but we have to somehow figure

(01:05:46):
it out, you know. AndI think that's why a lot of people
do drugs and they do alcohol becauseit's easier to self suit. But that
only makes things worse. You're basicallythrowing more gas to the fire, ye
know what I'm saying. And alot of people are on a today.
The biggest issue with humans is accountability. You know, a lot of people
just don't want to be accountable fortheir actions or the things that have done.

(01:06:08):
For me. I've done batshit inmy life, and I'm accountable for
all of it, you know whatI mean. Like, if I've done
somebody wrong, I'll try to makeit right. But I've also learned that
like when you reach out to somebodyand they don't like reply, Like no
response is a response, and youjust gotta let it be, you know
what I mean, So people willhold grudges for you with you know,
over some shit you did when youcould just have a five minute conversation.

(01:06:30):
Crazy thing about this world is likewe have these mini computers like with us
twenty four hours a day, butpeople act like they can't reach out to
you, you know what I'm saying, Like like you like it could be
like you but like let's say,if you guys get mad at each other,
like y'all could talk about it,or y'all could just go, like
you could go do your thing.You do your thing. It just takes
like a conversation in person or evena text like Yo, hey, I'm

(01:06:54):
sorry. Shit on sideways. Yeah, but people have so much pride and
like just don't want to be accountable. Like, hey man, sometimes when
you're pissed, especially in a relationshipor even if you're like like you know,
like arguing with somebody, you'll say, somebody pocket ship. It happens,
but you have to own up toit. Yeah, and we just
got to learn to be accountable.And that's like a lesson that a lot

(01:07:14):
of people don't ever like, youknow, It's it's funny like we're you
know, as adults, we're alwaysjudging teenagers, but the reality is adults,
we're just fucking grown teenagers because weliterally act like teenagers. We know
this because we're you know, we'vebeen on Twitch for years. Twitch is
like basically everyone acts like a fuckingteenager. Twitch. It's a lunch table

(01:07:36):
digitally literally literally right like they havetheir lunch table like they're doing this,
they're doing this, everyone's talking shitabout each other, and you're kind of
caught in the middle, Like,like, yo, just be you know,
be accountable for it, you knowwhat I'm saying, Like, I
think those are some of the biggestlessons I've taken over time and that I've
learned through therapy. Just you gottabe accountable. You have to really just

(01:07:58):
be mindful of everything. Being mindfulof your energy too, man, you
know what I mean. Like,I know a lot of people think that
I'm stuck up or they're like,I got a stick up my ass,
but really it's more like I'm justbeing very careful about who I share my
energy with. Yeah, it's veryimportant. It's funny bro, because like
I remember, it was just acouple of years ago, especially when I
moved to LA, everyone would alwaystalk about like protect your energy, protect

(01:08:20):
your energy, and I'd be like, man, y'all are on some fucking
hippie shit right now, Like whatthe fuck does this mean? Right?
Yeah? Right? But then thatwas back then when I was like,
I didn't know what that meant.Right. But now that I'm a lot
older and I have the responsibilities ofrent, my car, note insurance,
my girlfriend, my dog, myfamily back home in the Bay, her

(01:08:44):
family over here too, nieces andnephews of like our siblings just popping left
and right, I'm just like,okay, Like, so when I go
back home, I'm not gonna goout and drink with my friends all the
time because there's more things where Ineed to apply my energy for. Okay,
I have to pay rent, andmy bills are just getting bigger and
bigger and bigger, and I wantto continue doing what I love to do,

(01:09:06):
so I need to hyper focus more. So, going back to like
the not drinking conversation, it's likeI can afford to not drink because I
have so many more responsibilities where Ineed to apply my energy to, and
that it's not even an idea,just knowing that you need to apply your
energy into things that deserve it onyour priority list is one of the number

(01:09:30):
one things that I've had to learnover the past couple of years, you
know, even like being in clubswith like Jackie, right, Like I
told her from the rip, Iwas like, look, like you kind
of know what it is. I'ma DJ full time, so like,
as my girlfriend, you kind ofhave to understand that. But I also
had to understand while being with her, like, Okay, I'm in a

(01:09:51):
club, but I also want tobe with her. So what is the
fine line between Like do I needto have like twenty thirty bitches behind me?
No? I don't. I justneed my girl behind right. Do
I need to look like the partyrocker guy like all the freaking time?
No? I just want to domy job right, and I want to

(01:10:12):
do my job well. And ifI just do these, amongst other things
that I apply my energy to andunderstand my priorities throughout the day, Like
oh my god, my life becomesso much fucking easier. Yeah, you're
trying to make your life easier andyou don't want drama and stress in your
life that weighs so much on you. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
it's how funny you touched on thatsubject of djings and dating, Like

(01:10:34):
that's tough, man, it's tough, yesterday. This is the beautia about
when I when I travel, Imeet people, I meet people for the
first time, so I like toknow their story and like you know,
in every DJ, like some DJs, I'm mad and they have new girlfriends
and I'm like, so, how'sit, you know, you know me,
I'm always so I'm starting on one. Girl's like I'm still learning,

(01:10:56):
Like I'm this is all she's all, this is all new to me.
And I'm like, yeah, itcan be tough, but you just have
to be strong, you know whati mean, because it really depends on
what type of DJ you are.But there's just a bad there's a misconception
that we're all host you know.Yea, you know I'm wholesome, you
know what I mean. But yeah, trust me, man, it's it's

(01:11:21):
tough, man, it's uh youknow, like for me, like I've
gotten to the point now, especiallylike you know, past my last relationship,
Like if I'm going to be bymyself like like for a long time,
then I'm good with it. Youknow what I'm saying, because you
know, me being a DJ basicallydestroyed my marriage. You know what I'm
saying because you know, for manydifferent reasons. It's just it's tough.

(01:11:45):
You have to be a very strongperson to be because I also see this
with my women. Are women DJfriends when they date man and same thing.
It's almost almost like the reverse.You know what I'm saying. I
hear it from them and it alwaysshocks me. Oh no, these dudes
are so jealous of all these otherdudes. But like, you know,
I have an example. I havea homegirl from the Bay, Like she's

(01:12:06):
very popular DJ and we're all inthe same crew, and like so it
was her and like twenty dudes andher dude was like this was the infusion
day. So like this dude waskind of getting huffy, you know,
with all our homies, and thenI had to put them aside. I'm
like, bro, she's like oursister. Bro, Like we wouldn't fucking
touch it with a temp football.Like like whatever you think is going on

(01:12:29):
is just all in your mind.You need to be fucking strong. Like
the reality is most of us,man, Like the realities most of us
were We're really there to set thevibes. We're not even worried about anything
else, Like it's just getting thejob done. It's like we're trying to
give the owner of the venue orwhoever's paying us the return on their investment.
Yeah, that's important. We're notworried, you know. For me,

(01:12:50):
like every time I've dated over theyears, you know, it's always
been like the women are worried aboutthe girls there there. I'm like,
like I'm not there for that,Like y'all know, I'm like an engineer.
I don't care about that. Likebeautiful women are everywhere, beautiful men
are everywhere, you know what Imean. Like I'm not gonna let that

(01:13:12):
bother me, you know what Imean, because I'm not there for that,
you know what I mean. IfI was younger or whatever, I
wasn't i was single, whatever,cool. But like for me now,
it's like I'm focused on getting thatjob done, you know what I'm saying.
So like like if I work forNASCAR, like I'm gonna go get
the job done. You know.If I'm gonna do I'm doing Bottle Rock
like like I'm getting the job done. Like, let me get the job

(01:13:34):
done, and then when I'm out, you know, and then it is
what I'm single, Like I couldgo meet people, you know what I
mean, But if I'm in arelationship, you have to set boundaries.
As a DJ, you gotta youknow, it might seem disrespectful for some
people, like Yo, I'm sorry, but I gotta grow, like you
know, and if if if thatgets you mad, then I'm sorry.
You know, we don't need tobe cool, you know what I mean.
The thing today is that a lotof people just love like trying to

(01:13:57):
step on boundaries, you know whatI'm saying. They want to test it,
you know what I mean. Wewant to see how strong you guys
are. You know what I mean. It's like you don't allow one,
you don't allow that energy, youknow what I'm saying, Like you just
gotta be firm on that ship,you know. But I will say that,
like that's been Nico's the first DJI've ever dated, and when I
met him, I was like brandlynew twenty one, So it was kind

(01:14:19):
of like, Okay, I'm nowexperiencing night life. I'm also experiencing night
life in a different way because I'mwith him now. It's just like okay.
And then on top of that,like, uh, like the club
he used to work at used tolive stream, you know, and if
I wasn't there, I'm seeing allthis fucking unfold on a live stream.

(01:14:40):
I'm just like, God, really, test, it's a test, but
you know it really just honestly,it depends on what kind of what kind
of human you are, you knowwhat I mean, Like are you out
there trying to like play the fieldor are you being serious? If you're
being serious, you're not going toplay the field. You're gonna be about
your wor that's what it is.And I've told her like multiple times,

(01:15:02):
and you know, it's always onething to like tell versus one thing to
prove, right, yeah, oryou know, visibly proved. So it's
like I told Jackie, especially whenwe first startedating, like look like this
is my job, Like I'm hereto make some freaking bread and pay my
rent, right, And then theclouds of like everything happening behind me and
in front of me start to happen, and it's just a constant reminder of

(01:15:24):
like, hey, like I justgot to remind you, like, you
know, this is what it is. I'm not here for all this glitz
and glamour and whatnot, Like it'scool, but I'm really trying to make
this a career for myself, andtherefore I take it that seriously as if
like you were going into the officeand you were doing your job right,

(01:15:44):
so exactly, and I think there'slike there's probably like there's a bit of
a difference between your age you guysage up in mind, right, like
like I'm in my forties now,right, like like god willing I make
forty five this year, and Ilook at the world differently, I'm not
I'm not worried about Like for me, I'm not worried about the cloud.
I'm not worried about the look.Like I'm just there to get the job
done. And honestly, like Istill love music the way that I did

(01:16:08):
with your kid, So to me, like playing those records and getting that
reaction means more than having one hundredhot chicks with me, like because like
like I said, there's hot chickseverywhere. You know what I'm saying,
But that doesn't mean like everyone's gonnavibate you at the same energy. You
know what I'm saying, Like,you know, like what I want out
of relationship. I want something legit, I don't you know, I don't

(01:16:29):
want it to just be some flyby shit. You know. That's why
I really don't date too often.You know what I'm saying, Like to
me, like if you date me, like if you we you know,
if we date, then you musthave been somebody extraordinary, you know what
I'm saying. Because I really don'thave time to waste, you know,
because we're getting pulled so many differentdirections, you know, like when we
do these weddings, we're like there'sno time for the drama. Like like

(01:16:53):
I'm sorry, but I gotta work. Like I'm not about you know,
I don't like you know, Itry not to look at my phone,
and when when I did, it'slike listen, when I clock in,
it's like I'm clocking in at work. I'm not, Oh, you have
a problem with me. We willdeal with that later, you know what
I mean. Like, there's justnone of this, you know what I
mean, This back and forth ship. It's it's some professional you know what

(01:17:13):
I'm saying. Yeah, because we'rewe're know what I mean. Amen,
But it's it's dating. Dating inour in our culture. It's very interesting
just dating in general today. Ithink just the expectations that people have of
each other, you know what Imean, the expectations men have, the
expectations women have, and I thinkpeople just have way too high expectations of

(01:17:38):
people, like and you know,shoot for the skies. But like I
you know, I always find itthat people that shoot too high sometimes like
they just end up being lonely.You know what I'm saying. You know,
because I see it. Men wantthis, women want this, and
it's like, you're just gonna realistic. Yeah, you have to be realistic
exactly. Hey, Jackie gave methe pass the other day because she showed

(01:17:59):
me, like you can get ringsat costco. I was like, what
I'll get wrong? Honestly, youknow when it comes to honestly, I
was married before, and honestly,like we got we got some real cheap
bands off of eBay, you know, because we were broke. I mean

(01:18:20):
when I got this is a crazyI got married at twenty two, so
very ship. Yeah she was twentyso like it was, it was very
interesting. But even we've been withthose cheap bands. We were together for
fourteen years, you know what I'msaying. So it's like some people spend
a ton of money, and Iknow people are gonna be in the comments

(01:18:41):
and they're gonna be like noth fuckall that. You know, you gotta
spend thirty grand or whatever. Butit isn't about like what you spend.
It's really the bond that you havewith the person, you know what I'm
saying, Like do you do youguys complete each other? You know what
I mean? Like that's what reallymatters. You know, the other day,
I was like, I'm cool withthe Moys and Night Ring, Like
you're totally fine, like like afake No was really gonna tell the difference.
It's like it's okay, and thenyou can upgrade later to you know

(01:19:02):
what I'm saying. Yeah, likeI'm saving you money, right, and
so you can get a house andthere you go. The house should be
the ring I'm saying. They sendme the email link, cos go send

(01:19:24):
me an Amazon Like, oh mygod, man, all right, man?
Well audio one? Where can everybodyfind you? Man? Uh?
DJ audio one, d J AU d I O Number one on all
social media? So I'm heavy onInstagram X Twitter. Yeah, pretty much

(01:19:45):
you can find me on those twoplatforms. I mean I'm on all platforms,
but you know, and threads.Your threads is popping man threads.
Yeah, every so often, I'llpop in there, SoundCloud, mixed cloud
everything at dj audio one YouTube,dj audio one, So yeah, hell
yeah, my name is Nico BlitzAudio one. We are everybody peace period,
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