October 21, 2024 • 35 mins
Imposter syndrome is a real thing y'all! Jackie and Nico talk about their experiences with Imposter syndrome and give advice on how to make it easier on yourself.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So do you think that sporting events tickets, whether
it's like a football game, baseball game, soccer game, do
you think that's considered a good gift? I mean, or
is it like a cop out type of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No, I think it's a really good gift, like all
things considered, right, Like if you're a football fan, for example,
Like if you love the Rams, like and I bought
you like tickets to see the Niners, for example, like.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You'd probably be like, uh no, I don't think that's
on part.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But if you're a Rams fan and I bought you
Rams tickets, it'd be like, yeah, like that's fire.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well yeah, obviously. I mean, like I've I've been thinking
about like Christmas gifts already and you're only in like October, September, October,
and I don't know. I feel like I want to
get like your family something that has to do with Niners,
But I don't want to get them like Niners gear
because they all like have Niners gear too, from like
fan day. But I don't know. I want to get
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them tickets. But I've also never been to Levi Stadium,
so I don't know how that would go.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I mean, shoot, how much bread do you want to
throw down?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because those football pants are.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Crazy, but they also like don't want to be the
oddball out. So I think I'm just gonna get like
a Niner jersey and be a bandwagon for the day.
I don't know, if you get someone like a sporting
event ticket, it's it's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, I mean it, No, it's it's but I.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Feel like everyone knows like the value of a ticket. Everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's up everybody. Nico Blitz in the building. Jack, You're
is here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Mexicpano Podcast, we just kind of have to switch up
the intro once again. We're here, we are healthy, and
we're alive. And since you're listening to this, so are you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we hope you guys are doing well. Back at
it again, hopefully on a regular schedule. So yeah, thank
you guys for tuning in. Yeah, I guess we just
kind of should get into it with today's like subject
because like last night, Nico and I went to our
friend tweet her album release party for her new album
(02:00):
we Wings Wings out now, so go stream it if
you guys know Tweet She's an amazing singer. If you
don't know tweet. Go check her out at tweet Music. Viennamese,
American R and B pop singer.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, before we really like dive into the like
imposter syndrome that we're gonna talk about today, can I
just say, like, it is Filipino American History Month, and
I want to shout out like two honorary Filipinos. Okay,
the first honorary Filipino on the list would be twee Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You know, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Last night last night, she was like where are my
Filipinos at I was like, go you Vietnamese, Like wait what?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Like I know because I've seen clips everywhere of tweet
always shouting out Filipinos like at her concerts, and Filipinos
love tweety Asians love tweet, but Filipinos especially love tweet.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think like Filipinos just love like anybody who's like songs,
they can sing, like you get exactly like because Filipinos
can sing, and they're just like yeah, like this isn't
within my range.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So yeah, especially like I hope you see this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And even girls like me don't cry like they're very
like heartbreaky type like records, so it's like yeah, Filipinos
just love feeling the heartbreak, right yeah, and then Filipinos
also love like the up tempo, you know, West Coast
type vibe. So another honorary Filipino I would like to
shout out is Blast.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I swear to god, I thought Blast Filipino for the
longest time, and then like I was just like, maybe
he's like half Filipino. Like for the longest time, I
was like, there has to be a reason, like Filipino's
like hell of fuckal Blast, Like they're like he has
to have like a great grandma that's Filipino or something,
and it's he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Just like a lot of Filipinos gravitate towards Blast yea
and shout out to them, Shout out to Blast, you.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Know, shout out to Blast man.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And so it's cool to see like Tweet and Blast
at a record called what you Gotta Say, because I
remember when Tweet first posted it on her ig, like
some of the top comments were like this is already
gonna be like the next Filipino anthem. I'm like, neither
of them are Filipino, but I do get what this
comment is saying.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, so happy Filipino History month to tweet.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And Okay, So, as Jackie was saying, last night, we
went to tweet listening party and our friend Johnny actually
brought something up to her.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, well, I kind of like I actually kind of
brought it up because I still feel like I've struggled
so much within this industry within the past like a
couple of years that I've been in the actual like
music and entertainment industry, that I still feel like I'm
really brand new to this, Okay, and even though I
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have gone through like a lot of shit experiences, and
because of that, I think I still struggle with my
imposter syndrome of like, yes, Tweet is our friend, but
like even regardless friend or not, like if I go
to an album release party, or if I go to
a concert or if I'm able to have like an
experience that not everyone would get to experience, Okay, I
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feel like I'm not worthy to be in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So can you break it down first, like what exactly
is imposter syndrome? Because sometimes I even have the question
when people bring it up.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, So just for people who also need further clarification.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, So for those who don't know what imposter syndrome is.
I'm literally like getting the actual definition of it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Shout out Google shot we actually okay, webd.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
What is imposter syndrome. Imposter syndrome is when you doubt
your own skills and successes. You feel like you're not
as talented or worthy as others believe, and you're scared
that one day people will realize that. Although it's not
a mental health diagnosis, imposter syndrome can cause real harm
in different areas of your life. So from what I'm
taking from that is like, I also like it's not
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just within like my career that I feel this imposter syndrome.
It's within like as different aspects of my life, Like
I feel like growing up like a minority, a child
of immigrants, and just within like Latino culture, you're very
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much taught to like, don't flaunt what you have, don't
like make it seem that you're above somebody else, Don't
do this, don't do that. If you're gonna, like, if
you have a success, keep it on yeah, keep it
on the down low.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, I totally get that because Filipinos are definitely the
same way, right, Like I was raised in also that
sense of like, yeah, you know, you can have this,
you can have that, but there's no need to be
like braggadocious about it or be wocious about it. It's
kind of like if you have it, and everybody needs
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to know that you have it, and by it, I
don't mean like an actual physical thing, but like it
could be whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it could literally whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And I think like because of that, it's partly because
of that that I feel like this constant imposter syndrome
when I am like in my area of my career,
uh huh, and I'm surrounded by these like a list
celebrities and in no way am I saying that I
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am one, but I'm surrounded by them. So I feel like, Okay,
I don't I shouldn't be here, Like this is a
situation that I'm I'm not supposed to be here. I'm
not supposed to be here because I'm people like me
don't get these opportunities I get you. And because of that,
I always doubt how good I am at certain things
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or like are I feel like if somebody were to
tell me, like, oh my god, you're doing so good
and you're doing this and you're doing that like you
do so much? How do you do? I'm like, I
don't like to talk as much as like I am
in radio and like I am an entertainment like host
and reporter. I actually hate to talk about myself because
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I never wanted to come across like I am being
just like like you, like I'm coming off boysterous or
Braggadosha's Like, I don't like to talk about it because
it's just like I don't want somebody to get the
inclination like, oh, she's so full of herself.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I totally get that because with the way I
was raised, I was brought up the same way, right,
you know, like it was more like be humble.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And then over the years, i mean, being in this
industry for like about like I don't know, close to
ten years now, I've just come to realize that one
thing that one of the homies told me. He always
told me like close mouths, like don't get fed ye.
And so if people don't know what you're doing, if
people don't know like who you are, like, how exactly
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are you going to like stand out in other people's minds? Right,
It's something that I'd say, It's not something easy to
do right, because especially when you come from a background
of like be humble, just kind of shut up and
do your work. Like, it's hard to actually talk about
these successes that you have in your life because you
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don't want to feel like you're bragging about it, right,
But nine times out of ten we are just we
should like put our minds in the set of you know,
I'm happy and I am successful, and I want everybody
to know, like why I'm feeling this way. It's a
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hard thing to obtain and really just take some time
to get to. Yeah, you know, Jackie and I were
talking about like the anxiety that comes with her being
in like networking events last night, and I told her
I was like, look, the first on networking events that
I had ever gone to, I was just like, I
don't feel like I belong here because I don't, like
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I didn't know who I was.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, I had no identity.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And it wasn't until going to these networking events a
couple times and also while building myself as a brand
and even more so as a person spiritually, mentally and
also in my career. It wasn't until then when I
became a lot more comfortable to be like, nah, this
is me. This is what I do.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
And if you don't know what I do, I'd be
happy to tell you what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I just like I still struggle with that, like
being like telling people what I do. Like like even
if somebody were to like just come up to me
and say, hey, like I'm so and so what do
you do? Like what's your name? What do you do?
I feel weird saying what I do. Yeah, And I
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feel like we're such in a era of social media
that everybody wants to highlight what they do and they
want to put it out there publicly. And while I
do that, I also hate that I have to do
that or that I just do it in general. Yeah,
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I have, even I say I have to because of
what I do, but I also choose to do it sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I struggle because I don't ever want it to be
like Okay, well here she is bragging again, or here
she is like you know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, I think like if I were to bring it
to like, you know, a Filipino aspect, right, it's very much.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
How do I say this, it's very much.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Let me let the work speak for itself, right, Yeah,
Like if I had a job that's like, you know,
that was getting me like six figures, right, Like I
might have a house that looks like it was worth
like six figure, or it might have a car that
looks like, okay, cool, like you can get this car,
you can get this blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And it's it's kind.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Of like a weird way of thinking to me in
that way because it's like it's it's the imposter syndrome
of like making people want to believe you are a
lot more well off than you like might actually think.
You know, yeah, it's like you know, yeah, you could
not verbally talk about the successes that you have, but
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when you have like the glitz and glamour and the
shiny thing that everybody is just so admiring and like
bragging about. In a sense, that's kind of like it's
like two sides of the same coin when it comes
to imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You get me, Yeah, I get you, like I've again,
it goes back to social media, I think being a
part of it too, where everyone's just so surface level
on social media. You see the highlights, you see you know,
all the yeses, you see, all the successes, you see
all the just approvals. You get instant gratification on social media,
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and that is amazing, but there's so much more to
it behind the scenes that I think now I realize
that being in this industry, in my career or just
whatever it may be, like everyday things that I'm kind
of like, Okay, I'm going through a lot more shit
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than people realize. And that's also why I feel like
maybe I don't belong here.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well get me, I get you, But I do also
think that let's take your situation.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Right, and in no way I'm like, am I like
trying to like figure this all out in a pot
like in a podcast, but like I'm just letting people
know like that it is a very much a real thing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, well so I was I was gonna say that.
I think it's because of the struggles, the trials and
tribulations that you have gone through that should give you
more than enough reason to want to be very proud
of your successes and talk about your successes right because
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you know, nobody knows the tiring hours that you have
to go through, like when it comes to work, all
the research you have to do when it comes to
like the artists that you interview and whatnot, and the
fact that it's like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna do radio
one day and then in that same day I'm gonna
end up doing Dodgers like a couple hours after so
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a five hour day easily becomes like eight or nine hours,
which a lot of people don't necessarily realize and they
just see like the smile on your face or like
hear the smile in your voice when it comes to radio,
or visually seeing you at Dodgers. But the nine hours
that you put yourself through were brutal, and even like
what comes the next day, it's like you might have
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to do it again, and then the next day you're
going to have to do it again. And I just
person personally feel like when it comes to those struggles,
that should give you even more courage and more like
more umph. I guess to be like, yeah, like this
is me and this is what I do, and whether
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you understand it or not, this is the shit that
I do on a daily basis, and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, And I think like a part of it is
not wanting people to understand, but like more so for
myself to understand me and the sense of there I've been.
I'm surrounded by so many people that have been in
this industry for a very very long time, and I
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just see the like the don't give a fuck attitude
that they have, and I want that so bad for myself,
and not just in my career, but literally for everything.
Like I want to don't give a fuck attitude for
someone who you know, gives me a side eye and
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just you know, thinks that they're can judge they can
judge me. Or I want to don't give a fuck
attitude when I get a random DM because somebody's sent
their like listeners at me. You know, I want that
don't give a fuck attitude for everything in my life.
And it's very very hard to accomplish that when you
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grew up in Latino household that's always told you care
about what other people think.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ah, Okay, I hear that. I hear that you.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Have to make sure that you are always look presentable,
You always have to be nice to people. You always
have to care about what people think, because you never
know what someone's gonna think about you, if they were
to see you not have a smile on your face,
if they if you were to say something, and it
comes off route. I have to worry about how people
are going to receive something, rather than being able to
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express myself freely and genuinely enjoy what the hell it
is that I'm doing. Yeah, so we got a DM
from one of our listeners from shout Out to our
Mexapino family. This girl wants our advice. Okay, so she said, Hey,
Niko and Jackie. So this guy I'm dating gifted me
a diamond ring for our six month anniversary. But he
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never said if it was a promised ring or if
it was just a gift. I'm not sure what to
think because if it is a promised ring, that's way
too soon for me. Should I ask him what it
means or just leave it alone?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I mean, I think she needs to.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think first of all, I think dude kind of
like blew his load, like way too quick, because now
the bar is just like what comes after a diamond
ring that early in the relationship, You know what I'm saying.
My one lingering thought is like, if he's that early
in the relationship and already buying like a diamond ring,
can you imagine how many other times he's done that?
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Because that's very early, you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, that's actually a very good point, Like he's yeah,
that's actually kind of weird. Maybe he's just like one
of those guys that just like has like I don't know,
jewelry ready for girls.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't know, man, I got my neco stones on
and I'm showing that's all. And I think that's the struggle, right,
And like I love your parents. Right, let me just
preface that, like I love Jackie's parents, and the love
is mutual, it's vice versa.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But you know, it's Nego seeing me like struggle with
this ever since we started dating.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, Like here, here's the thing. And I don't ever
want to come off rude. I just feel like it
is such a traditional way of thinking to constantly accommodate
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for what other people may or may not think about you.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was just talking to, you know again, our friend
Johnny Maxwell just yesterday and before we did our whole session,
we had like a pretty deep, like hour long talk.
One of the things that stuck out to me, and
you know, God knows where Johnny gets his research from, right,
probably from.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Google, probably from the Internet.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But he had said, like I believe eighty or ninety
percent of the things that we worry about are just
things that exist in our head, and in our head,
only ten percent of the things that we actually worry
about are actually like really, it's actually real. And something
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about that combo yesterday just resonated with me so much
because not that I've in the past, I've tended to
worry about things that didn't necessarily exist, right, there were
possible outcomes that I would just drop in my head
and what in turn would cause a whole bunch of anxiety.
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Come to find out, when things actually transpire, it's like
it didn't really inspire that way, right, Yeah, And don't
get me wrong, still to this day, there are a
glimpse and flashes of that, like whether Jackie and I
are throwing like Mexicino food Fest, there's like there's like
an era of like possibilities and outcomes that could happen,
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and at the end of the day, by the time
the event happens, it's like, man, like, what the hell
do we even like worry ourselves? It is super hard
to get out of that mindset. And there's a borderline
between I guess I don't care and I don't give
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a fuck versus I'm going to I'm going to adapt
to whatever the situation is, and I'm gonna make sure
like whatever stone at mean, I'm able to.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Adapt to it. But it's tough to get there, you know. Yeah,
I think it's very tough.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I think like my next step and just trying to
deal with like everything in my life right now, is
to honestly, like go back to therapy. Okay, Like I've
had so many conversations in the past month or so
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about what it is I go through on a daily basis. Yeah,
personally in my own head and professionally that I've really
like it. Almost always the conversation whoever I have it
with ends with have you ever considered therapy? And at
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that moment, I was like, Okay, if this is a
general consensus, maybe I should go back to therapy. Like
I went to therapy what back in twenty twenty. Yeah,
I went to therapy in twenty twenty and I was
there for what would seem like maybe a few months,
and that was for like a completely separate issue, and
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I stopped going. And then in that time I ended
up getting my radio job. I ended up becoming a
stadium host for the Dodgers and for the Galaxy. Like
I went to therapy before any of this. Yeah, yeah,
and I haven't been after, and my life has changed
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so drastically and so quickly that I need help processing it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, you know, it is actual. It's an actual thing
to be in the entertainment industry and have like an
entertainment therapist like that specific niche is an actual thing.
And I just found out about this like a couple
months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know if I if I want to go
to an entertainment therapist. I'm not sure, just because I
feel like I have so many more issues in my
fucking head. I'm not all there. But yeah, I just
like I don't know if it But then again, like
they probably know that too, like how to deal with
that too, Yeah, because they are a therapist. But I
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just feel like I need some sort of help that
respectfully isn't like my partner or my family members. Because yes,
you're in you're yeah, you're yes, you're in the industry
and you've gone through this. But it's like when I
grew up with my parents, I'd listen to my aunt
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before i'd listened to my parents, and they gave me
the same exact advice. Do you get you get me, Yeah,
but I just feel like I need someone who literally
has like a neutral ground.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I yeah, I totally get you on that. I feel
like you know again.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Let me also just preface I am an advocate for therapy.
So if you feel like you need to go, you know,
that's that's great. I feel like you should again. Jackie's
been wanting to go again, and I'm totally for it.
I think on the other side of the coin, if
you do not want to go to therapy, something that
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I've done, like throughout my entire life is like just
actually talk about it as much as possible with almost
as many people that I feel like would be a
reliable source for like what I'm going through. Right So,
for example, if I'm going through like, you know, issues
when it comes to djaying, more than likely I'm just
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going to talk to other DJs and see like how
how their career has gone and like things that I
can pick apart from it and see how that can
help me throughout life. If I'm going through I mean,
let's just say like a heartbreak for example, Like I've
talked to my mom in the past because my mom
has gone through that type of stuff, you know, you know,
whereas Jackie's family has come from, like A, I guess more,
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you know, we don't necessarily talk about these things. My
family has come from a situation where, like, you know,
we talk about these things like to our faces, whether
whether we're streaming or not. Yeah, you know, and not
to say like one is better than the other or
one is like preferred over the other, but just to
give you, guys, like options of what you can do,
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whether it is actively going to therapy. You could also
find a therapist in someone who is just the regular,
regular person, and they might not even know what you're
going through because again you haven't verbalized any of these things. Yea,
it is tough to talk about these things amongst like
family members and people who you are close to.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, a thousand percent. Like I feel like also when
it comes to Latino culture, we've always there's like a
saying that it's basically it's in Spanish, but it translates
into English, like leave your dirty laundry at home.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, like you don't talk about it in Spanish, don't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I can't say it properly so, but yeah, like it's
it's pretty much saying like, you don't talk about your
issues outside of the house, out of the four walls,
don't you don't talk about it, You don't go to
somebody else, because whatever you're going through, you can either
fix it on your own or you're gonna talk about
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it with your family. But also the thing, the flip
side of that coin, is that Latino families don't like
to talk to each other about these things because.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We choose to think that mental.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Health issues don't exist. Yeah, we don't, like, why are
you sad? The lights are on?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah you have food. Don't be sad?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like no, Like I can be sad. I can go
through things. I can go through heartbreak, I can go
through like career issues, and yet like nobody knows. And
like I'm gonna say, I need to choose my words
very careful. I need to choose my words very careful
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because then the tack dogs are gonna come out on
me again. All right, I went through something, and I'm
keeping it very brief for our listeners. You obviously know it.
I went through something that my parents still don't know
about to this day, where I received death threats, I
was told very nasty things on social media because other
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people felt the need that they were able to do
that to me. I was very new in this industry
and it sucked. And I never talked to anybody about it.
And it was just you that I talked to about it. Yeah,
you know, and yes you were, you're yes you were
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and still are in this industry, but you've never been
through something like that at least I don't think so,
you know. And that really fucking sucked. And it was
because I grew up with that mentality of like, don't
talk about it outside of these four walls, that I
never talked about it with my parents.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I think when it comes to like the four
wall situation, right, Like I think that is okay when
it comes to like your interpersonal relationship with somebody, right.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So like yeah, like ifp issues, Yeah, Like if you're
having relationship issues, it's like, you know, I might tell
the homie, yeah, right, but like but you won't tell
them everything, Like you'll just be like, yeah, like we're
we're in an argument or some shit.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, like we're in an argument. I'm not asking for
you to fix it. I'm just trying to vent. But
at the end of the day, it is up to
me to fix it, right, Yeah, I'll be telling Johnny
all the time. It's like, look, you might think me
and Jackie's like sunshines and butterflies like all the time,
but you know, like we actually go through arguments, and
like those arguments never have to leave the four walls, right,
(28:36):
And I think that is where that is totally applicable
for the four wall situation. But I think when it
comes to you know, situations about your career, right, like
no offense, but your parents are not in the entertainment industry,
so there is literally a limit on how much they
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can relate to you when it comes to your career.
They can talk to you about like general career you know,
questions and like how to go about things, but when
it comes through the specifics like I'm trying to get
like you know, like this show or whatever whatever, they
literally won't have like any sort of like information that
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would be like totally viable to you in all fairness,
it's not even a shot to them. It is just
out of all fairness, right, So when it comes to
situations like that, I just feel like that's when it
should leave the four walls. Yeah, I feel like that's
where the openness comes in. That's where the courage comes in.
And because you were courageous enough to talk about your
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situation with other people who are going through similar things
outside of the four wall boundary, that is built in
you know, your head, and that was instilled in you
over the years. In turn, you will also be able
to talk about your success with people outside and.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Inside the four walls.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So you know, I think it is all about breaking
these cycles that were instilled upon us when we were younger.
I think that a lot of these morals have value
to it, But it is twenty twenty four, so it
is about modifying these traditional ways of thinking, modernizing it,
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and making it better because that's what we are here
for in twenty twenty four, are going on to twenty
twenty five and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I was looking up like just treatment for imposter
syndrome because we've been talking about therapy h and ironically
it literally is just therapy. It's as self devening thoughts
can feel like a part of you that you're not
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able to get rid of. Because of that, dealing with
imposters and often means getting support from others, talk therapy,
talking to a counselor therapist can help you explore with
the where these negative messages about yourself came from and
how they impact your life. There's a type of therapy
called CPT that helps you learn to identify negative beliefs
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you have when they pop up, and you'll focus on
replacing those negative thoughts with realistic thoughts.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, And then there's group therapy. I for one, I know,
I hate not gonna do the therapy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I took a side note.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I did like a group interview at like a shoe
palace one time, and I was like, fuck, this, this
is the worst.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I did a group interviews three people, three interview ease. Yeah,
the people getting interviewed, right, it was three interviewees. Shout
out to Cook and Kelsey because this was for iHeart
on the Street team. It was three interviewees and like
seven interviewers.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Not everyone need to be there. I can tell you
that right now. Not everyone needed to be there.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We'll get back to it. So group therapy as well.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, group therapy and and little sections as how to
overcome imposter syndrome. Remind yourself of your win, separate your
feelings from the facts, be kind to yourself and I
accidentally scrolled all the way up, so give me one second.
Hum Oh, be kind yourself, practice accepting praise, don't compare
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yourself to others, challenge yourself, understand the syndrome, talk to
someone I you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Know, I think that a lot of that is amazing.
And one thing that I would also like to add
to that too is praising people for what they do. People,
you know, don't front y'all. Everyone likes fucking compliments. Everyone
(32:50):
truthfully likes compliment. Don't don't fucking tell me you don't compliment.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, but I don't know how to respond to compliments.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I think that you would to have This is
what I do. At least I would respond to a
compliment of mind, like if you were to compliment me,
I would compliment.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You back type situation. But that also.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Comes with in the know of what people are doing.
And truthfully, if if I don't know what somebody's doing,
I just throw back the question like yeah, man, so.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You know, like what do you want to do now?
Da da da you know it?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But again that just comes with experience, and I think,
like what you know web MD was saying, right, like
be able to accept compliments, receive compliments, also be able
to give compliments. I think once we establish that we
are in a safe space of that everyone is like
everyone is going through similar shit, everybody is trying to
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get these wins under their belt. We create a space
where we can openly talk about these things in public places,
like you know where we were at yesterday. We open
a space where we can talk about these things in
private places, and we start to build trust not only
with other people, but we also start to build trust
in ourselves. The more that people talk about us and
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we talk about them, the more we start to believe
these things. If someone told you you were the greatest
radio host ever, you might be like, nah, that's not me.
But if you accept it, like you know what, thank you.
I really appreciate that you start to believe like, okay, cool,
Like I'm really doing a really good fucking job and
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I can always become better, but I'm happy to know
that someone believes that I am the best.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, and so yeah, that's a great point. I think
the biggest takeaway from all this, from this whole episode
was that imposter syndrome. While it's not a official diagnosis,
it is a very serious form of self doubt. And
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you know, people with imposter syndrome tend to also suffer
from anxiety and depression. And if you guys, feel that,
you know, whoever's listening to this, if you feel that
this is something that you are going through and you
finally have been able to put a name to it,
please seek a counselor talk to somebody that you trust.
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And yeah, because that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, and if you trust us, just dm us. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, now, but we appreciate you guys and anybody else
going through imposter syndrome just know where you go through
the same thing on a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
My name is Nico.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Blitz, I'm JACKI Rmas and this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Is the Mexicano Podcast. We will see you guys around
around Halloween.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh yeah period. All right, bye guys,
Okay, So do you think that sporting events tickets, whether
it's like a football game, baseball game, soccer game, do
you think that's considered a good gift? I mean, or
is it like a cop out type of thing.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
No, I think it's a really good gift, like all
things considered, right, Like if you're a football fan, for example,
Like if you love the Rams, like and I bought
you like tickets to see the Niners, for example, like.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
You'd probably be like, uh no, I don't think that's
on part.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
But if you're a Rams fan and I bought you
Rams tickets, it'd be like, yeah, like that's fire.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well yeah, obviously. I mean, like I've I've been thinking
about like Christmas gifts already and you're only in like October, September, October,
and I don't know. I feel like I want to
get like your family something that has to do with Niners,
But I don't want to get them like Niners gear
because they all like have Niners gear too, from like
fan day. But I don't know. I want to get
(00:51):
them tickets. But I've also never been to Levi Stadium,
so I don't know how that would go.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
I mean, shoot, how much bread do you want to
throw down?
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Because those football pants are.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Crazy, but they also like don't want to be the
oddball out. So I think I'm just gonna get like
a Niner jersey and be a bandwagon for the day.
I don't know, if you get someone like a sporting
event ticket, it's it's okay.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
You know, I mean it, No, it's it's but I.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Feel like everyone knows like the value of a ticket. Everyone.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
It's up everybody. Nico Blitz in the building. Jack, You're
is here, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Mexicpano Podcast, we just kind of have to switch up
the intro once again. We're here, we are healthy, and
we're alive. And since you're listening to this, so are you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, we hope you guys are doing well. Back at
it again, hopefully on a regular schedule. So yeah, thank
you guys for tuning in. Yeah, I guess we just
kind of should get into it with today's like subject
because like last night, Nico and I went to our
friend tweet her album release party for her new album
(02:00):
we Wings Wings out now, so go stream it if
you guys know Tweet She's an amazing singer. If you
don't know tweet. Go check her out at tweet Music. Viennamese,
American R and B pop singer.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
You know, before we really like dive into the like
imposter syndrome that we're gonna talk about today, can I
just say, like, it is Filipino American History Month, and
I want to shout out like two honorary Filipinos. Okay,
the first honorary Filipino on the list would be twee Okay, yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
You know, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Last night last night, she was like where are my
Filipinos at I was like, go you Vietnamese, Like wait what?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Like I know because I've seen clips everywhere of tweet
always shouting out Filipinos like at her concerts, and Filipinos
love tweety Asians love tweet, but Filipinos especially love tweet.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I think like Filipinos just love like anybody who's like songs,
they can sing, like you get exactly like because Filipinos
can sing, and they're just like yeah, like this isn't
within my range.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
So yeah, especially like I hope you see this.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
And even girls like me don't cry like they're very
like heartbreaky type like records, so it's like yeah, Filipinos
just love feeling the heartbreak, right yeah, and then Filipinos
also love like the up tempo, you know, West Coast
type vibe. So another honorary Filipino I would like to
shout out is Blast.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I swear to god, I thought Blast Filipino for the
longest time, and then like I was just like, maybe
he's like half Filipino. Like for the longest time, I
was like, there has to be a reason, like Filipino's
like hell of fuckal Blast, Like they're like he has
to have like a great grandma that's Filipino or something,
and it's he doesn't.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
But yeah, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Just like a lot of Filipinos gravitate towards Blast yea
and shout out to them, Shout out to Blast, you.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Know, shout out to Blast man.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
And so it's cool to see like Tweet and Blast
at a record called what you Gotta Say, because I
remember when Tweet first posted it on her ig, like
some of the top comments were like this is already
gonna be like the next Filipino anthem. I'm like, neither
of them are Filipino, but I do get what this
comment is saying.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I totally agree.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, so happy Filipino History month to tweet.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And Okay, So, as Jackie was saying, last night, we
went to tweet listening party and our friend Johnny actually
brought something up to her.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah, well, I kind of like I actually kind of
brought it up because I still feel like I've struggled
so much within this industry within the past like a
couple of years that I've been in the actual like
music and entertainment industry, that I still feel like I'm
really brand new to this, Okay, and even though I
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have gone through like a lot of shit experiences, and
because of that, I think I still struggle with my
imposter syndrome of like, yes, Tweet is our friend, but
like even regardless friend or not, like if I go
to an album release party, or if I go to
a concert or if I'm able to have like an
experience that not everyone would get to experience, Okay, I
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feel like I'm not worthy to be in that room.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
So can you break it down first, like what exactly
is imposter syndrome? Because sometimes I even have the question
when people bring it up.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Yeah, So just for people who also need further clarification.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Okay, So for those who don't know what imposter syndrome is.
I'm literally like getting the actual definition of it.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Shout out Google shot we actually okay, webd.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
What is imposter syndrome. Imposter syndrome is when you doubt
your own skills and successes. You feel like you're not
as talented or worthy as others believe, and you're scared
that one day people will realize that. Although it's not
a mental health diagnosis, imposter syndrome can cause real harm
in different areas of your life. So from what I'm
taking from that is like, I also like it's not
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just within like my career that I feel this imposter syndrome.
It's within like as different aspects of my life, Like
I feel like growing up like a minority, a child
of immigrants, and just within like Latino culture, you're very
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much taught to like, don't flaunt what you have, don't
like make it seem that you're above somebody else, Don't
do this, don't do that. If you're gonna, like, if
you have a success, keep it on yeah, keep it
on the down low.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Okay, I totally get that because Filipinos are definitely the
same way, right, Like I was raised in also that
sense of like, yeah, you know, you can have this,
you can have that, but there's no need to be
like braggadocious about it or be wocious about it. It's
kind of like if you have it, and everybody needs
(07:01):
to know that you have it, and by it, I
don't mean like an actual physical thing, but like it
could be whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Yeah, it could literally whatever.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
And I think like because of that, it's partly because
of that that I feel like this constant imposter syndrome
when I am like in my area of my career,
uh huh, and I'm surrounded by these like a list
celebrities and in no way am I saying that I
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am one, but I'm surrounded by them. So I feel like, Okay,
I don't I shouldn't be here, Like this is a
situation that I'm I'm not supposed to be here. I'm
not supposed to be here because I'm people like me
don't get these opportunities I get you. And because of that,
I always doubt how good I am at certain things
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or like are I feel like if somebody were to
tell me, like, oh my god, you're doing so good
and you're doing this and you're doing that like you
do so much? How do you do? I'm like, I
don't like to talk as much as like I am
in radio and like I am an entertainment like host
and reporter. I actually hate to talk about myself because
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I never wanted to come across like I am being
just like like you, like I'm coming off boysterous or
Braggadosha's Like, I don't like to talk about it because
it's just like I don't want somebody to get the
inclination like, oh, she's so full of herself.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
And I totally get that because with the way I
was raised, I was brought up the same way, right,
you know, like it was more like be humble.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
And then over the years, i mean, being in this
industry for like about like I don't know, close to
ten years now, I've just come to realize that one
thing that one of the homies told me. He always
told me like close mouths, like don't get fed ye.
And so if people don't know what you're doing, if
people don't know like who you are, like, how exactly
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are you going to like stand out in other people's minds? Right,
It's something that I'd say, It's not something easy to
do right, because especially when you come from a background
of like be humble, just kind of shut up and
do your work. Like, it's hard to actually talk about
these successes that you have in your life because you
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don't want to feel like you're bragging about it, right,
But nine times out of ten we are just we
should like put our minds in the set of you know,
I'm happy and I am successful, and I want everybody
to know, like why I'm feeling this way. It's a
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hard thing to obtain and really just take some time
to get to. Yeah, you know, Jackie and I were
talking about like the anxiety that comes with her being
in like networking events last night, and I told her
I was like, look, the first on networking events that
I had ever gone to, I was just like, I
don't feel like I belong here because I don't, like
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I didn't know who I was.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, I had no identity.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
And it wasn't until going to these networking events a
couple times and also while building myself as a brand
and even more so as a person spiritually, mentally and
also in my career. It wasn't until then when I
became a lot more comfortable to be like, nah, this
is me. This is what I do.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
And if you don't know what I do, I'd be
happy to tell you what I do.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Yeah, I just like I still struggle with that, like
being like telling people what I do. Like like even
if somebody were to like just come up to me
and say, hey, like I'm so and so what do
you do? Like what's your name? What do you do?
I feel weird saying what I do. Yeah, And I
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feel like we're such in a era of social media
that everybody wants to highlight what they do and they
want to put it out there publicly. And while I
do that, I also hate that I have to do
that or that I just do it in general. Yeah,
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I have, even I say I have to because of
what I do, but I also choose to do it sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Yeah, And.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I struggle because I don't ever want it to be
like Okay, well here she is bragging again, or here
she is like you know.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Well, I think like if I were to bring it
to like, you know, a Filipino aspect, right, it's very much.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
How do I say this, it's very much.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Let me let the work speak for itself, right, Yeah,
Like if I had a job that's like, you know,
that was getting me like six figures, right, Like I
might have a house that looks like it was worth
like six figure, or it might have a car that
looks like, okay, cool, like you can get this car,
you can get this blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
And it's it's kind.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Of like a weird way of thinking to me in
that way because it's like it's it's the imposter syndrome
of like making people want to believe you are a
lot more well off than you like might actually think.
You know, yeah, it's like you know, yeah, you could
not verbally talk about the successes that you have, but
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when you have like the glitz and glamour and the
shiny thing that everybody is just so admiring and like
bragging about. In a sense, that's kind of like it's
like two sides of the same coin when it comes
to imposter syndrome.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
You get me, Yeah, I get you, like I've again,
it goes back to social media, I think being a
part of it too, where everyone's just so surface level
on social media. You see the highlights, you see you know,
all the yeses, you see, all the successes, you see
all the just approvals. You get instant gratification on social media,
(13:05):
and that is amazing, but there's so much more to
it behind the scenes that I think now I realize
that being in this industry, in my career or just
whatever it may be, like everyday things that I'm kind
of like, Okay, I'm going through a lot more shit
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than people realize. And that's also why I feel like
maybe I don't belong here.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
Well get me, I get you, But I do also
think that let's take your situation.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Right, and in no way I'm like, am I like
trying to like figure this all out in a pot
like in a podcast, but like I'm just letting people
know like that it is a very much a real thing.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah, well so I was I was gonna say that.
I think it's because of the struggles, the trials and
tribulations that you have gone through that should give you
more than enough reason to want to be very proud
of your successes and talk about your successes right because
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you know, nobody knows the tiring hours that you have
to go through, like when it comes to work, all
the research you have to do when it comes to
like the artists that you interview and whatnot, and the
fact that it's like, Okay, cool, I'm gonna do radio
one day and then in that same day I'm gonna
end up doing Dodgers like a couple hours after so
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a five hour day easily becomes like eight or nine hours,
which a lot of people don't necessarily realize and they
just see like the smile on your face or like
hear the smile in your voice when it comes to radio,
or visually seeing you at Dodgers. But the nine hours
that you put yourself through were brutal, and even like
what comes the next day, it's like you might have
(14:54):
to do it again, and then the next day you're
going to have to do it again. And I just
person personally feel like when it comes to those struggles,
that should give you even more courage and more like
more umph. I guess to be like, yeah, like this
is me and this is what I do, and whether
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you understand it or not, this is the shit that
I do on a daily basis, and I'm proud of it.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Yeah, And I think like a part of it is
not wanting people to understand, but like more so for
myself to understand me and the sense of there I've been.
I'm surrounded by so many people that have been in
this industry for a very very long time, and I
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just see the like the don't give a fuck attitude
that they have, and I want that so bad for myself,
and not just in my career, but literally for everything.
Like I want to don't give a fuck attitude for
someone who you know, gives me a side eye and
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just you know, thinks that they're can judge they can
judge me. Or I want to don't give a fuck
attitude when I get a random DM because somebody's sent
their like listeners at me. You know, I want that
don't give a fuck attitude for everything in my life.
And it's very very hard to accomplish that when you
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grew up in Latino household that's always told you care
about what other people think.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
Ah, Okay, I hear that. I hear that you.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Have to make sure that you are always look presentable,
You always have to be nice to people. You always
have to care about what people think, because you never
know what someone's gonna think about you, if they were
to see you not have a smile on your face,
if they if you were to say something, and it
comes off route. I have to worry about how people
are going to receive something, rather than being able to
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express myself freely and genuinely enjoy what the hell it
is that I'm doing. Yeah, so we got a DM
from one of our listeners from shout Out to our
Mexapino family. This girl wants our advice. Okay, so she said, Hey,
Niko and Jackie. So this guy I'm dating gifted me
a diamond ring for our six month anniversary. But he
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never said if it was a promised ring or if
it was just a gift. I'm not sure what to
think because if it is a promised ring, that's way
too soon for me. Should I ask him what it
means or just leave it alone?
Speaker 3 (17:31):
I mean, I think she needs to.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think first of all, I think dude kind of
like blew his load, like way too quick, because now
the bar is just like what comes after a diamond
ring that early in the relationship, You know what I'm saying.
My one lingering thought is like, if he's that early
in the relationship and already buying like a diamond ring,
can you imagine how many other times he's done that?
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Because that's very early, you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, that's actually a very good point, Like he's yeah,
that's actually kind of weird. Maybe he's just like one
of those guys that just like has like I don't know,
jewelry ready for girls.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
I don't know, man, I got my neco stones on
and I'm showing that's all. And I think that's the struggle, right,
And like I love your parents. Right, let me just
preface that, like I love Jackie's parents, and the love
is mutual, it's vice versa.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
But you know, it's Nego seeing me like struggle with
this ever since we started dating.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Yeah, Like here, here's the thing. And I don't ever
want to come off rude. I just feel like it
is such a traditional way of thinking to constantly accommodate
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for what other people may or may not think about you.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I was just talking to, you know again, our friend
Johnny Maxwell just yesterday and before we did our whole session,
we had like a pretty deep, like hour long talk.
One of the things that stuck out to me, and
you know, God knows where Johnny gets his research from, right,
probably from.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Google, probably from the Internet.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
But he had said, like I believe eighty or ninety
percent of the things that we worry about are just
things that exist in our head, and in our head,
only ten percent of the things that we actually worry
about are actually like really, it's actually real. And something
(19:32):
about that combo yesterday just resonated with me so much
because not that I've in the past, I've tended to
worry about things that didn't necessarily exist, right, there were
possible outcomes that I would just drop in my head
and what in turn would cause a whole bunch of anxiety.
(19:54):
Come to find out, when things actually transpire, it's like
it didn't really inspire that way, right, Yeah, And don't
get me wrong, still to this day, there are a
glimpse and flashes of that, like whether Jackie and I
are throwing like Mexicino food Fest, there's like there's like
an era of like possibilities and outcomes that could happen,
(20:14):
and at the end of the day, by the time
the event happens, it's like, man, like, what the hell
do we even like worry ourselves? It is super hard
to get out of that mindset. And there's a borderline
between I guess I don't care and I don't give
(20:35):
a fuck versus I'm going to I'm going to adapt
to whatever the situation is, and I'm gonna make sure
like whatever stone at mean, I'm able to.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Adapt to it. But it's tough to get there, you know. Yeah,
I think it's very tough.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I think like my next step and just trying to
deal with like everything in my life right now, is
to honestly, like go back to therapy. Okay, Like I've
had so many conversations in the past month or so
(21:12):
about what it is I go through on a daily basis. Yeah,
personally in my own head and professionally that I've really
like it. Almost always the conversation whoever I have it
with ends with have you ever considered therapy? And at
(21:32):
that moment, I was like, Okay, if this is a
general consensus, maybe I should go back to therapy. Like
I went to therapy what back in twenty twenty. Yeah,
I went to therapy in twenty twenty and I was
there for what would seem like maybe a few months,
and that was for like a completely separate issue, and
(21:54):
I stopped going. And then in that time I ended
up getting my radio job. I ended up becoming a
stadium host for the Dodgers and for the Galaxy. Like
I went to therapy before any of this. Yeah, yeah,
and I haven't been after, and my life has changed
(22:14):
so drastically and so quickly that I need help processing it.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Well, you know, it is actual. It's an actual thing
to be in the entertainment industry and have like an
entertainment therapist like that specific niche is an actual thing.
And I just found out about this like a couple
months ago.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I don't know if I if I want to go
to an entertainment therapist. I'm not sure, just because I
feel like I have so many more issues in my
fucking head. I'm not all there. But yeah, I just
like I don't know if it But then again, like
they probably know that too, like how to deal with
that too, Yeah, because they are a therapist. But I
(23:00):
just feel like I need some sort of help that
respectfully isn't like my partner or my family members. Because yes,
you're in you're yeah, you're yes, you're in the industry
and you've gone through this. But it's like when I
grew up with my parents, I'd listen to my aunt
(23:20):
before i'd listened to my parents, and they gave me
the same exact advice. Do you get you get me, Yeah,
but I just feel like I need someone who literally
has like a neutral ground.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I yeah, I totally get you on that. I feel
like you know again.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Let me also just preface I am an advocate for therapy.
So if you feel like you need to go, you know,
that's that's great. I feel like you should again. Jackie's
been wanting to go again, and I'm totally for it.
I think on the other side of the coin, if
you do not want to go to therapy, something that
(23:56):
I've done, like throughout my entire life is like just
actually talk about it as much as possible with almost
as many people that I feel like would be a
reliable source for like what I'm going through. Right So,
for example, if I'm going through like, you know, issues
when it comes to djaying, more than likely I'm just
(24:18):
going to talk to other DJs and see like how
how their career has gone and like things that I
can pick apart from it and see how that can
help me throughout life. If I'm going through I mean,
let's just say like a heartbreak for example, Like I've
talked to my mom in the past because my mom
has gone through that type of stuff, you know, you know,
whereas Jackie's family has come from, like A, I guess more,
(24:44):
you know, we don't necessarily talk about these things. My
family has come from a situation where, like, you know,
we talk about these things like to our faces, whether
whether we're streaming or not. Yeah, you know, and not
to say like one is better than the other or
one is like preferred over the other, but just to
give you, guys, like options of what you can do,
(25:06):
whether it is actively going to therapy. You could also
find a therapist in someone who is just the regular,
regular person, and they might not even know what you're
going through because again you haven't verbalized any of these things. Yea,
it is tough to talk about these things amongst like
family members and people who you are close to.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
Yeah, a thousand percent. Like I feel like also when
it comes to Latino culture, we've always there's like a
saying that it's basically it's in Spanish, but it translates
into English, like leave your dirty laundry at home.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
Okay, like you don't talk about it in Spanish, don't.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
I can't say it properly so, but yeah, like it's
it's pretty much saying like, you don't talk about your
issues outside of the house, out of the four walls,
don't you don't talk about it, You don't go to
somebody else, because whatever you're going through, you can either
fix it on your own or you're gonna talk about
(26:05):
it with your family. But also the thing, the flip
side of that coin, is that Latino families don't like
to talk to each other about these things because.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
We choose to think that mental.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Health issues don't exist. Yeah, we don't, like, why are
you sad? The lights are on?
Speaker 3 (26:21):
Yeah you have food. Don't be sad?
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Like no, Like I can be sad. I can go
through things. I can go through heartbreak, I can go
through like career issues, and yet like nobody knows. And
like I'm gonna say, I need to choose my words
very careful. I need to choose my words very careful
(26:45):
because then the tack dogs are gonna come out on
me again. All right, I went through something, and I'm
keeping it very brief for our listeners. You obviously know it.
I went through something that my parents still don't know
about to this day, where I received death threats, I
was told very nasty things on social media because other
(27:08):
people felt the need that they were able to do
that to me. I was very new in this industry
and it sucked. And I never talked to anybody about it.
And it was just you that I talked to about it. Yeah,
you know, and yes you were, you're yes you were
(27:30):
and still are in this industry, but you've never been
through something like that at least I don't think so,
you know. And that really fucking sucked. And it was
because I grew up with that mentality of like, don't
talk about it outside of these four walls, that I
never talked about it with my parents.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I think when it comes to like the four
wall situation, right, Like I think that is okay when
it comes to like your interpersonal relationship with somebody, right.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
So like yeah, like ifp issues, Yeah, Like if you're
having relationship issues, it's like, you know, I might tell
the homie, yeah, right, but like but you won't tell
them everything, Like you'll just be like, yeah, like we're
we're in an argument or some shit.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah, like we're in an argument. I'm not asking for
you to fix it. I'm just trying to vent. But
at the end of the day, it is up to
me to fix it, right, Yeah, I'll be telling Johnny
all the time. It's like, look, you might think me
and Jackie's like sunshines and butterflies like all the time,
but you know, like we actually go through arguments, and
like those arguments never have to leave the four walls, right,
(28:36):
And I think that is where that is totally applicable
for the four wall situation. But I think when it
comes to you know, situations about your career, right, like
no offense, but your parents are not in the entertainment industry,
so there is literally a limit on how much they
(28:57):
can relate to you when it comes to your career.
They can talk to you about like general career you know,
questions and like how to go about things, but when
it comes through the specifics like I'm trying to get
like you know, like this show or whatever whatever, they
literally won't have like any sort of like information that
(29:18):
would be like totally viable to you in all fairness,
it's not even a shot to them. It is just
out of all fairness, right, So when it comes to
situations like that, I just feel like that's when it
should leave the four walls. Yeah, I feel like that's
where the openness comes in. That's where the courage comes in.
And because you were courageous enough to talk about your
(29:43):
situation with other people who are going through similar things
outside of the four wall boundary, that is built in
you know, your head, and that was instilled in you
over the years. In turn, you will also be able
to talk about your success with people outside and.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Inside the four walls.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So you know, I think it is all about breaking
these cycles that were instilled upon us when we were younger.
I think that a lot of these morals have value
to it, But it is twenty twenty four, so it
is about modifying these traditional ways of thinking, modernizing it,
(30:29):
and making it better because that's what we are here
for in twenty twenty four, are going on to twenty
twenty five and so on and so forth.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Yeah, I was looking up like just treatment for imposter
syndrome because we've been talking about therapy h and ironically
it literally is just therapy. It's as self devening thoughts
can feel like a part of you that you're not
(30:57):
able to get rid of. Because of that, dealing with
imposters and often means getting support from others, talk therapy,
talking to a counselor therapist can help you explore with
the where these negative messages about yourself came from and
how they impact your life. There's a type of therapy
called CPT that helps you learn to identify negative beliefs
(31:17):
you have when they pop up, and you'll focus on
replacing those negative thoughts with realistic thoughts.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
Yeah, And then there's group therapy. I for one, I know,
I hate not gonna do the therapy.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
I took a side note.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
I did like a group interview at like a shoe
palace one time, and I was like, fuck, this, this
is the worst.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I did a group interviews three people, three interview ease. Yeah,
the people getting interviewed, right, it was three interviewees. Shout
out to Cook and Kelsey because this was for iHeart
on the Street team. It was three interviewees and like
seven interviewers.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Not everyone need to be there. I can tell you
that right now. Not everyone needed to be there.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
We'll get back to it. So group therapy as well.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, group therapy and and little sections as how to
overcome imposter syndrome. Remind yourself of your win, separate your
feelings from the facts, be kind to yourself and I
accidentally scrolled all the way up, so give me one second.
Hum Oh, be kind yourself, practice accepting praise, don't compare
(32:23):
yourself to others, challenge yourself, understand the syndrome, talk to
someone I you.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Know, I think that a lot of that is amazing.
And one thing that I would also like to add
to that too is praising people for what they do. People,
you know, don't front y'all. Everyone likes fucking compliments. Everyone
(32:50):
truthfully likes compliment. Don't don't fucking tell me you don't compliment.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yes, but I don't know how to respond to compliments.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Well, I think that you would to have This is
what I do. At least I would respond to a
compliment of mind, like if you were to compliment me,
I would compliment.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
You back type situation. But that also.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Comes with in the know of what people are doing.
And truthfully, if if I don't know what somebody's doing,
I just throw back the question like yeah, man, so.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
You know, like what do you want to do now?
Da da da you know it?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But again that just comes with experience, and I think,
like what you know web MD was saying, right, like
be able to accept compliments, receive compliments, also be able
to give compliments. I think once we establish that we
are in a safe space of that everyone is like
everyone is going through similar shit, everybody is trying to
(33:48):
get these wins under their belt. We create a space
where we can openly talk about these things in public places,
like you know where we were at yesterday. We open
a space where we can talk about these things in
private places, and we start to build trust not only
with other people, but we also start to build trust
in ourselves. The more that people talk about us and
(34:14):
we talk about them, the more we start to believe
these things. If someone told you you were the greatest
radio host ever, you might be like, nah, that's not me.
But if you accept it, like you know what, thank you.
I really appreciate that you start to believe like, okay, cool,
Like I'm really doing a really good fucking job and
(34:35):
I can always become better, but I'm happy to know
that someone believes that I am the best.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Yeah, and so yeah, that's a great point. I think
the biggest takeaway from all this, from this whole episode
was that imposter syndrome. While it's not a official diagnosis,
it is a very serious form of self doubt. And
(35:05):
you know, people with imposter syndrome tend to also suffer
from anxiety and depression. And if you guys, feel that,
you know, whoever's listening to this, if you feel that
this is something that you are going through and you
finally have been able to put a name to it,
please seek a counselor talk to somebody that you trust.
(35:29):
And yeah, because that's what I'm going to do.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
Yeah, and if you trust us, just dm us. You
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, now, but we appreciate you guys and anybody else
going through imposter syndrome just know where you go through
the same thing on a daily basis.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
My name is Nico.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
Blitz, I'm JACKI Rmas and this.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Is the Mexicano Podcast. We will see you guys around
around Halloween.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh yeah period. All right, bye guys,
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