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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to rid Red.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's Michelle Barone, your host, and I'm missing my girl
Ashley tonight, but I know she was excited to be
here to meet our newest guest.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm so excited to be here with Nicky Exotica. What's
up girl?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Hello? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Of course, I'm just so happy for you to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And I know the studio looks the same, but it's
new and it's cool, right.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
I love it. I love the whole concept. And you
know what, it's bad. I didn't even realize you had
a new studio.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Yes see, that's good. That means we replicated, well you did, so.
I just want to chat with you about so many things.
Nicki is a reality star, and she's transgender. She is
an amazing person, a big personality online and someone that
you know the world is always chatting about. Hey, guys,
(00:59):
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Speaker 3 (01:23):
I mean the guests that we've had on the show.
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Speaker 2 (02:25):
So what is it like, Niki to be on such
a large platform and how do you feel about all
of it?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, to begin, I do reality TV. I am a
singer as well, yes, and that's how I started.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And I can't wait for your new music.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I know I got a new music on the way
and it's really really good stuff coming from me. I'm
also soon to be author. I am writing a book
of my life story.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Love it.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
So I know, lot girl, I'm staying busy. Granted those gears,
I think like that's what it's about, you know, in
this industry. So you said transgender, I am trenssexual and
there is a difference.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
I think people need to understand me.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
So transgender is someone who just changes their gender. I
know some people have different views on us. But being
that I was one of the people who paved the
way and I came out a long time ago. What
was telld to me back in the day, which transgenders
are the ones that still have their part, but they
lived a life as you know, the sex they identify as.
(03:25):
For me being transsexual, I completely changed my sex. So
I lived my life as a woman, full complete woman.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
My operation when I was nineteen years old, and it
was hard, you know, my mother didn't support me. I
did it all on my own. It was hard, you know,
being in a life of you know, I grew up
in the streets when my mother turned her back. Even
though we both you know, we both have the most
(03:54):
amazing relationship you've seen.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yes, today I met your mom and she's so loving
and supportive, loves you more than anything.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
It was a lot of work, you guys. It wasn't easy.
You know. If my mother had supported me the way
a trans person needs their family to support them, I
would have been, you know, into sex work and turned
to the streets to survive. There was times where I
just had to like see a client to make to
eat the next day, or to sleep somewhere, you know,
(04:23):
to make money to stay in a hotel. It was hard,
so my life. I wish I would have had to
support with my family, and I didn't, but I do
now there was a lot of healing that I needed
to do to get over it. Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, I appreciate you coming on and sharing your story
because it's so important to so many others dealing with this.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And when did you first discover that you were trends?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So, you know, people think like it's just like a
light switch and oh, you can live your life and
you're a man. And I knew all my life, you know,
I knew at a very young age. My mom knew
it too, she knew that there was something wrong. I
was always playing with dolls, I was always hanging out
with the girls. I was always feminine. Nothing, you know,
(05:09):
influenced me or inspired me. I didn't. That's who you were,
and that's who I was meant to be, you know.
And there was no drag queens, no literature, no books,
no magazines. This was my true self shining through all
my life.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Did you feel something and when was the first time
you felt that you were different?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
So it's very confusing because when you're young, you just think, Okay,
you're gay, you like boys, you know this and that.
But what was very different to me is I liked
girls too. So I had a girlfriend in high school
I thought girls were pretty. I had a girl girlfriend
in middle school. I liked girls, you know, so I thought, Okay,
(05:56):
what's wrong with me? I liked dressing up like a girl,
like putting on makeup. I like playing dolls. But I
like girls too. Then I was like, but I think
boys are cute. Two. And then I was like, but
I'm not attracted to gay boys. I like straight boys.
I like the jocks. I think they're hot. I was like, Wow,
what's going on with me?
Speaker 1 (06:14):
You know that's interesting?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So I so you were narrowing in and testing the world.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
Correct trial and error, girl, like, you know, like you
never know, like, Okay, am I bisexual? Am I transsexual?
Am I? Like?
Speaker 2 (06:27):
What?
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Am I?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:28):
I don't know. And I didn't know trans I didn't
know that that concept. I didn't know it right. I
don't know it that term even existed. I couldn't put
a name on it.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
So you just knew your feelings were different than everyone.
Your tears.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Yeah, so I so I just had to. It was
just experimenting and figuring out who I truly was meant
to be.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
And so when was the first time you realized that
you were trans like and what happened?
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So it's you know, so I dealt with a lot
of bullying in school. People constantly called me a faggot
and gay and oh, you're a queer, and you're a
fairy and you know all the names I can think
about a gay person being called. And I wasn't even gay.
It was just this is what they called me, and
this is what I had to deal with every day.
(07:19):
And I just couldn't take it anymore. It's just my
mind exploded one day and I said, this is the
day it's going to end. I just I'm done. So
I took a hundred ass brand and I just took
shots of vodka. My mom had left with her my
stepfather at the time, and I just passed out. And
then I got up and I felt like I was
gonna throw up. So I went to the toilet and
(07:41):
I was just driving and like, my mom came to
the bathroom. She's like, are you sick? What's wrong? Like
what she saw my eyes were rolled back like it
was done, Like it was done, and she was like,
what happened? What did you do? So she came up
behind me and started pumping my stomach and I started
spitting up like all these pills in the toilet, and
she's like what do you do? Oh my god, why
(08:01):
would you do this? Like she was crying and screaming,
and she was like, get in the car. I'm taking
you to the hospital. They had to put my stuff in,
which hardcoal, and then they were like, what's wrong with you? Like,
you know, how do you feel? Do you feel like
you want to hurt yourself? I'm like, I just don't
want to be here anymore. Like I just kept telling
him I don't want to be here anymore, like I'm
just done. I'm just done. So it's still at that moment,
(08:22):
I didn't feel any regrets. I just wanted to end it.
So that was a while because I thought I was
going to go home and they were like, oh no,
we're keeping you. So then they put me on a
three day hold. It was it was a three day
hold and I was.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Still I can't be with family right now.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
They held me for three days in the hospital. They said,
how do you feel today? I said, I'm done. If
you send me home, I'm gonna I'm gonna off myself.
They were like like, after three days, you still feel
the same, Like you know. Then they sent me two weeks. Yeah,
they sent me fourteen days to a psychiatric rehab, drug
(09:02):
rehab place and mental health. And that's when I had doctors,
I had blood work, I had therapy, and that's when
I finally realized what was wrong with me, because I
kept telling the doctors, I don't know what's wrong with me.
I keep getting called to faggot, I keep getting called gay,
(09:24):
but I feel like a girl. I feel like I'm
born in the wrong body, and I'm trying to figure
all that out. So they were like, there was some
type of tests like caryot type tests or something that
could do get chromosome's a certain type of tests you
could take. Yeah, And that's when I came back with
the results. They said, well, now it all makes sense.
And I was like, what do you mean. They were like, well,
(09:46):
remember what you had said, you know that you felt
like you were born on raw body. I was like yeah,
They're like, you have xx y chromosomes, you know, chromosomes.
I'm like like what, Like, what's that like, you know,
and they were like, you have both male female chromos zones.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Wow, that is insane. You just gave me the chills.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Yeah, and you know, like wow, it's it's so messed
up because people really just don't really know me. They
think they do, Like they sit there and they'll criticize
and they'll bully me, and they'll say, oh, Dana, it
doesn't lie. You're still a man, like you'll never be
a woman. No, I'll never be a I don't have
Philippian tubes, I don't have a uterus, I don't have ovaries.
(10:27):
But I'm more than a woman. I'm a male and
female and one, you know, and I'm okay with that,
Like I'm okay. I know who I am. I'm never
gonna be just a biologically born female. I think women
are so beautiful, amazing, reproductive. I wish I could have kids,
but you know, it's life.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And never feel like you because you're both male and female,
want to be a man at times.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I think that's why it comes out sometimes when I'm pistol,
So you know that can come out very quickly if
I'm yeah, ticked off pretty well, I.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Mean to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
You know, I knew because I looked you up before
that you were trans. But if I had not known,
I would never know. I mean, you look so beautiful.
You are more than a woman. I'm so I'm so
happy at living your truth. It's beautiful, it is.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
It feels good to be authentic, to live your life
and to you know, to be brave. Yeah, I'd be brave, Frands.
People are the most bravest people out there to living
your life and not caring what people saying.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
And you know, it's interesting because I've had so many
debates in my life over things like this. Everyone has straight, gay,
trans Everyone's had these conversations, and you know, you always think, well,
why why do it to be different?
Speaker 1 (11:48):
This and that? To me, you are who you are.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You know, I never understood really till I had kids.
And my first son was born, and he was the
happiest kid in the world. He came out of the womb, smiling,
perfect and just always in a good mood. My second
one came out pissed off, and I'm like, why can't. Yeah,
I'm like, this kid is pissed. I could literally move
Mount Everest if he asked me to, and he'd still
(12:12):
be like a grump. And you know, I love him dearly,
but he is who he is. Like people are who
they are, you know, and I didn't realize that that
would be that way until I had my own kids.
And I do think like you felt these feelings because
you did have two types of chromosomes. People don't need
to know that for you to live your truth, but
they're so overly concerned with you and other things, and
(12:34):
I want to have an opinion because they think they know.
When listen, you had a feeling in your body. You
knew something wasn't right and you needed to figure it out.
And you know what, you are brave for doing that,
So thank you, and hopefully you inspire other other people
who are looking to find their truth as well.
Speaker 3 (12:51):
I mean, listen, no, not everyone has my situation, you know,
but to each his own, you know. I think trans
you'r or you know, you have the chromosomes or you don't,
but it doesn't make you less than you know. I
think that we all have our own journey, yes, and
people take steps to get to that journey. And I
always tell people do this. If you're gonna do it,
(13:13):
don't do it all. If you're not gonna do it right,
don't do it at all. That's what my trans mother
taught me. Yeah, TV St Laurent She was like, baby,
when you're gonna do this, honey, do it right or
don't do it at all, because this is a very
hard journey. She sat me down. She's like Nicole, if
you do not have a backbone, they will tear you
up and you out your own community, your own community,
(13:34):
the gays, the trans out there, they will spit you up.
If you don't know how to read and you don't
know how to defend yourself. I started reading, like that's
such a young age because I don't even know how
to read. But when I got taught how to read,
my tongue can be like a razor blade. Do not
play with me. I will make you cry. I don't
care who you are, guy, girl, trans, gay, whatever you
(13:54):
come from me, I'm slicing it with my words, you know.
And people are like, oh, you know, you shouldn't be
like that because you're in a public figure.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
Try me, you know exactly?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
You knows. Motto is I like I'm a doll that
you don't want to play with, you know, Like, because
that would be if I was a New Jersey housewife.
It would be like I'm plastic and fake, just like
a Barbie. But I'm the doll that you don't want
to play with.
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Speaker 2 (15:56):
All right, so tell me more about becoming the woman
that you are today. So surgeries, I know you've had
a ton off camera, you were saying to me head
to toe, I've done it.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
All, so I've done it all.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
So what's been how many surgeries have you had?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Girl? I lost count after five. I mean, I've done
it all. I mean I think I'm a girl from
from the Do you want it like a list?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:22):
I want to do this so many times. But you know,
for your followers, people who don't know who I am,
They're gonna think I'm crazy. I'm called a million dollar
Barbie for something.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I'm probably you are perfect.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I'm probably at one point five million right now. But
I okay, let's start from the top. So I've done
my shaved my forehead really. I did an endoscopic brow lift.
I did temporal lift, which pulls the eyes like a
cat twice. I've done a mid facelift. I've done a
necklift three times. I've done the nose a million times,
(16:57):
cheecken plants, uh, John line filing, chin implants, chin reduction,
a lip lift, set don't want to face ears pinned back, uh,
my atoms, apple, my voice surgery, eye color change, voice
dental dental work four times, probably my fourth set of
an ears. Let's see, I've had breast done number of times,
(17:23):
my ribs cracked in my abs etching done, which is
light bo libol three sixty. I've done caffin plants, button plants,
a sex change, what else?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I Yeah, what's been the toughest recovery?
Speaker 3 (17:41):
The JJ really and my calf and plants and my
button plants. Yeah, button plants are goldn oft sit for
two months, my caf and plants. I couldn't walk for
three months and I was walking crooked like I kicked
in the balls, well technically when I got my sex change,
and that was a long time until I got straight
with my body. That was hard.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What did they do? Like what I don't even know
what that? What kind of surge do they do?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (18:03):
It's hocus pocus down there? But it looks pretty. I mean,
everyone's like always trying to read me. They're like, oh,
I'm a real woman as a girl. If you saw
my vagina, it's better than yours. If you stole my
design of vagina, you you would look down at Arby's
and you would be like, oh my god, it's very tight.
(18:24):
It never gets loose. Yeah. That's that's one thing about
you know, girls like me, is that we do have
to keep on dilating. And I just you know, about
to keep on having sex, which is fun, you know, yeah,
it's just that's some.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Wait a second, you can have sex as a woman
as well, what do you mean, like like like a
woman has sex of course?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
What yeah, well of course I get penetrated in my
and you can feel it everything stop.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yes, I had no idea.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Yes, the bigger I'm like, are.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
You kidding me?
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah? This is like it hurts girl, like when there's
when the guys too big.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
I already know.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
It's too much.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
It's so crazy. So now okay, so who do you date?
And I just want to say thank you for your honesty,
like this is.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
You know me, I'm I I love it. I don't
care all right, wondering questions.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
I didn't know like you actually like have everything. That
is crazy. You didn't know you had an outer part
but not like the inner part.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Girl, That is crazy. Yeah, that's amazing. Wow, that's insane
right now. So I had a and a blanket, that
is so that's what it's called. All right, I'm learning
all new terms today.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So what about Like, so, so you still prefer men though, right,
you prefer.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
I listen, I prefer men, of course, I love but
not gay man, straight man.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Okay, still what am I going to do with a
gay Guyah?
Speaker 3 (19:58):
A gay man wants a gay a man musculo's bottle
body body, body muscles, Like what am I doing?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Straight men get intimidated by you because.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Honey, I'm stunning, Like hello, guys get intimidated. Yeah, but
then guys think that like, you know what, she would
probably know what I want and what I desire? How
to pleasure me? I do I know how to pleasure
a man that used to be you know? So guys
(20:28):
get inquisitive curious.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Do you get denied a lot?
Speaker 3 (20:32):
Of course I can deny it.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, even look like you look that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah, But on the d L they will, they'll want
to mess around. That's the sad part is that a
lot of a lot of guys, like in public, they'll
turn their eye, but like behind closed doors, they're all
for it. Even probably would want me to put a on.
Probably I'm stuck. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Guys, Oh my god, that is so wild.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
And so since you've become a woman, have you ever
been with a gay man? Ah?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
I was with yeah, like a long time ago. When
I first got my sex change, I wanted to try
it out after it like I was ready to use
the KIDDI cat. And I had a gay guy friend
that I was like. He wasn't so big, it was
like average. So I was like, okay, let's try it.
And I was like, ou out out out, take it out,
take it out. I was like, oh my god, I hurt.
(21:29):
I was like I could. I couldn't handle it. I
was like, oh my god, this is bad. I was like,
I'm taking another month and just you know, dilating myself
is like getting the size. You know, they have different
sized diildos. You got to like work your way up. So, girl,
I was like, I'm scared. After that first time having sex,
I was like ah ah.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
And then you're like, I don't know if I did
the right thing right.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
And then the first time I actually had sex with
this guy, the straight guy that I had told I
was a sex change, he was just very so curious. Girl.
I sounded like like, you know when cats get to
have sex. I was like, ah, I love.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
It.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Was horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
What about a woman? Have you been with any women?
Of course, even after being one? Yes? And is it?
What's it like?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
I think I experimented with women more in my earlier years. Girl,
I've done it all. I've been like three guys in
Paris and me. I've been like I I think with yeah, threesomes.
I had two girls and a guy like you know, swapping.
I've done it all, girl, I've experimented. I wanted to
try and see what I liked. I'm not really like nowadays,
(22:40):
like I'm just I want to sleettle down. I want
to find the right guy. And maybe I just met
out with a girl, like maybe a few months ago.
But it was it was an okay, it was it
was like it was it was okayed by her man.
So yeah, you know, he was cool with it, and
she was she was she was hot, you know, but
it's not my forte Like I want a guy. I
(23:02):
want to be with a guy. Give me enough drinks, honey,
I could be bisexual. I gains.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
I love it. You are so funny. Oh my god,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So if you could be like, if you could have
your own reality show, what would it be like?
Speaker 3 (23:18):
Uh, it would be probably a dating show because I
cannot meet mister Wright. I thought I had him.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Girl?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I you know what, I'm known as the barbie. So
I would just want to search for my next ken Okay,
but I would look for guys that are obviously probably
fuck boys, and then I would look for rich man
like sugar paddies, and I would just make it a
big mixer. And I feel like, okay, am I going
to pick Love Money?
Speaker 2 (23:49):
You know?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I think I would do a show like that. That
would be really fun. I think if people would watch it.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
I love it, Love her money, Honey, coming at you, Ni,
let's go exactly, let's put it out there.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
So Nikki, what's to come for you? I know you
have your book coming out? Tell me about it? Are
you allowed to tell us?
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Then? Girl? Like pretty much everything that we've spoken about
like times like a thousand, it's going to talk about
like my life, like you know, in that industry. I'm
going to call it the industry and be on the
streets and just kind of like my rags are riches.
I wouldn't say I'm rich, yes, yes, yeah, but you
(24:28):
know where my whole journey who I am. And hopefully
it inspires people to just never give up on your dreams,
keep on going. You know. Finally, at almost fifty years old,
it just you know, got on a reality show. And
you know, I found love a few times in my life,
so I'm happy about that. There's many trands that never
find love, you know, or experience what love is and
(24:50):
being in love. So I'm I'm I'm blessed.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
If that was going to be the end and I've
never find love again, I'd be okay because I at
least experienced it. But I don't know. More music. Ye,
you're going to see some more music videos coming.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Can you tell us like the sneak peak of your
newest song?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, my newest song is Oh my Goodness. So my
newest song is called so Narcissistic Love It I wrote
it from personal experience, yes, and you know, I think
a lot of people are going to be relating to
that song around the world. Everyone can relate to a
narcissist being in a relationship with one. And it's sexy,
(25:29):
it's hot, it's got an amazing beat to it, and
I cannot wait to film it. I'm actually filming it
on Father's Day with my dancers. So yeah, I'm in
a studio like Wednesday next Wednesday with dance rehearsals. And
my girls are hot. My dancers, they look like piscat dolls.
So I am so excited to shoot it. I have
not did a music video in two years, and you know,
(25:49):
it's all about funding. It's it's so expensive. People don't realize,
like how expensive it is to do a music video,
to do the song, do the video, all the style,
the hair, the makeup, the team, like all that stuff.
It's like about for me because I cut costs. But
it's like about fifteen for all that to reward the song,
to get the song, to push the song, to get
the music video, to do all this stuff. About fifteen
(26:11):
thousand just for one song. I know. But that fifteen
thousand you invest it and then you get performances and
bookings and then you can make your money back. That's
what you make your money back.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Absolutely well, I wish you nothing but success. You go, girl,
You're gonna kill it. And where can people find you online?
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Well, you can find me on Instagram, you can find
me on Snapchat. I'm more solid on Instagram. Uh, Nikki
exotica and I kk I e x O t I
k A. Everybody doesn't see but it's okay. You could
find me Nikki exotica official dot com And where else
(26:50):
you could find some exclusive content and OnlyFans. Maybe. Yes, Hey,
you gotta make that extra coin. Yeah, I mean, I'm
all over the Facebook and you'll find you'll find me everywhere.
Just put my name on.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
All right, Well, make sure you check her out, Nikki Exatica.
Thank you for joining us on Red. You can follow
us and make sure you subscribe and we'll check you
out next week.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Bye.