November 18, 2025 • 33 mins
Celebrity hairstylist and entrepreneur Chaz Dean joins Michelle Barone and Ashleigh McPherson on RED to share his rise to the top of the beauty industry. From working behind the chair to building the globally recognized WEN Hair & Body Care brand, Chaz reveals how he redefined haircare, built a loyal celebrity following, and created a movement rooted in authenticity and innovation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Arid Red.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's Michelle Barone and it's Ashley McPherson.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Oh yeah, okay, we got to talk about how our
hair has been so shiny recently.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah really, I mean, your hair looks amazing, and I
have to tell you my hair is naturally curly, but
I love it like this.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, this is the one line that I tell all
of my friends about if I'm traveling, I need something
quick to put in my bags, not something that's like
a little travel size from the store.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I love the when little travel like what are they
called the little packets?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Yea, everywhere with me and.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
There's a whole bunch of different kinds, so it's like
a little surprise every time I take one out of
the box.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I love it too. And today we have the founder
of When.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So excited. I've been seeing this on TV.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
For years, so he is an icon in the beauty industry,
and I'll tell you hair care is his thing. He's
been doing this for many years, and I'm so excited
to be here with him.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Chas Dean, how are you hello.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm great, great, great.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hey, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Before today's episode, I want to talk to you about
something that Ashley and I care a lot about, mental health.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
That's right, taking care of your mental health is just
as important as taking care of your physical health. And
Mental Health America of Duchess County is the perfect place
for that health.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Mental Health America of Duchess County is super empowering and
helps so many people with so many problems.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Honestly, it's pretty amazing seeing how mental health actually affects people.
I mean the guests that we've had on the show.
We've talked about mental health in almost every episode, and
it's a serious topic.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Now's the time to prioritize your mental well being. If
you're suffering from anxiety, depression, or anything mental health related,
visit Mental Health America Duchess County at MHA Duchess dot org.
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Speaker 1 (02:36):
You know, Jazz, you look amazing, Okay.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Cause you did say it's hair care and skincare. And
I'm not joking. It's like I've disclosed this because when yeah,
I met you a year and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yes, I get migraines. I get migraines all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So back six and a half years ago, I used
to get botox.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It really helped my migraines.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
During COVID, I realized when we were locked down, I
went through my Instagram and you see pictures and whatnot,
and I realized that the last photo shoot I did
in May of twenty nineteen, my eyebrow was lifted I'm like,
I didn't like that. So I have not done botox
since March of twenty nineteen, and I do have skincare.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That can you hear me?
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yes, skincare that I developed through COVID, and that's all
I use on my skin. Everything is one hundred percent natural,
and I get more compliments on my skin and how
I look now being natural, So my element is is
Obviously I was spending a lot more money on boattos.
I do, unfortunately get a lot more migraines now, but
I feel better about how I look, so I appreciate
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that you do noticing that my skin has changed over
the years.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Absolutely, I have to be honest. You look like in
a great way.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're wearing a filter, Like your skin looks so good
and clean and not processed, not overdone. Your facial hair
is like so tight. Everything looks beautifle full, like really
really nice.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Yeah, the only thing I'm wearing as I have guyliner
and I always wear that.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But that's it.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
The rest is well, I met you for myself tanner,
so yes, this is my self tanner. So I feel
better about my skin because it's tan I would be
like Casper. If I wasn't tan I'm really really, really pale.
And that's why I developed my self tanner because I
got I got tired of always smelling like self tanner.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That was number one reason.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
So with mind you don't smell like self tanner is
most important to me. But it looks like a natural
tan as well, So thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, of course it glows. And tell me more about
your self tanner. You know, I know it's a product
that you really care about and you again created it
because you wanted it for yourself, and now so many
others are enjoying on it. Can you talk to me
about it?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah? I created it. Oh gosh, I here like four
or five years ago.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
And the reason I did is because I always self tann.
I've been tanning since I was in little the eighth
grade because I realized.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
When we moved, when we moved from.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Doylestown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania to California. When I was in
the middle of the eighth grade and I started getting
sunn from California, I realized it gave me confidence, and
I realized that's what the problem is. In fall and
winter in Pennsylvania. I always felt not confident and I
didn't know what it was to. We went to California
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and I realized, oh, I have color on my skin.
I feel better about myself when I'm pale and pasty.
I lacked confidence. I felt ugly, I felt unattractive. I
didn't have confidence. So I would always before going to school,
I would take aluminum foil and I would put it
on a record and I would tan my face so
I felt better about myself. And after coming out of
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high school, I went to tanning beds and I did
all of that, and then I, in all honesty, I
got skin cancer on my back and I never did
a tanning bed again because even when I did tanning beds,
I knew you. I believed it wasn't good for you.
I felt like I was in a microwave oven. I'm
being honest. I got probably being cooked from the inside out,
but my vanity of feeling better about my looks, I
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still did it until I got skin cancer. I never
did it again. That was like sixteen years ago, and
then I've got it two other times after that. Now
I'm good and clear. I get checked twice a year
just to make sure, but I started self tanning then,
is my point? Instead of going to tanning beds, I
started self tanning. I tried everyone out there, everyone that's
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out there, trust me. I was either orange or kind
of murky or khaki. They were all weird, you look dirty,
all those things I tried, and I finally landed with one.
I won't name the brand, but it was a tann
towel and it wasn't easy to do because they would
dry out quickly. It was just like any of those towel,
let's say, dry out fast, so I'd have to use
two or three for my whole body. It would tan somewhat.
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I was always a bit orangey. I always smelled like
self tanner. And when I went, yeah, it was horrible.
And when I went out on a couple of dates,
someone's like, they're like, you always smelling self tanner. I'm like,
two things happened. I used to do altoids. I used
to do the licorice altoids and they're like, I don't
really like liquorice. I'm like, oh, I can change that.
I'll just do the mint ones because I don't chew gum,
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so I'll do the mint ones. And then the next
thing they said was and you always smell like self tanner.
I'm like, sorry, that's non negotiable, not happening. I will
not be paiste and not be pale. But what it did,
it turned on my light bulb. I'm like, why am
I settling for tanners that smell like self tanner? And
that was my aha, light bulb moment, Like why am
I settling? Why not I create my own? So that
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is what I set out to do. And I told
them that it had to look natural, it couldn't have
that self tanner smell.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
They kept trying to add colorance to it as well.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I'm like, I don't want you to add colorance to
it because that's what transfers.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And I said, They're like, how are you going to
know where you spray?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I'm like, if you can't feel or see where you
spray it without adding color to it, then you shouldn't
be using self tanners. So it doesn't it tans you evenly.
And it's plant based, so no matter which one of
us use it, and this is how I met you
guys a year and a half ago, is no matter
who use it, your skin tone is going to tant
to your own natural proteins slash DNA because you only
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you're the only one that has your DNA, so no
two tans are going to be alike.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And it's not orange, it's not streaky.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
The best part is you have a subtle smell of
self tanner while it's processing, but once you shower off,
like you will never smell like self tanner. So yeah,
we've won two awards for at QBC so far with
it for Customer Choice, Beaudy Awards. But it's important to
me because now I never smell like self tanner, and
that's really important. Tans evenly fades evenly, and I ten
(08:42):
year round because I am like casperm, like Casper. If
you saw my legs, how pale they are, it's like crazy,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, you know what, they're pretty much like this towel.
They're pretty much like this.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's honestly the number one thing I love fig tanning.
I'm always self tanning like one, if not twice.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I love being tanned.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I feel like sometimes I'm in my like ugly aeron,
I'm like what do I feel so ugly? And then
I tan and I'm like, oh, that's literally what it was.
But the one thing, right, the one thing tanning I hate, though,
is always the smell. I'm like, I hate like the
day after the day one tan. I'm like, I literally
smell disgusting.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Like Frito's right, like fritos or something like burnt stan fritos.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Whatever that smell is.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, well we don't have to worry about anymore, not anymore.
So it's a chest. Where can people get this amazing tanner?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
On chastin dot com, Sometimes on QBC dot com as well,
but definitely I always have it on chastein dot com
and it's I have it in a spray so you
just spray it on the Other thing I did is
I the delivery system of how you tan. I'm like,
it was never good because your hands were always tan.
You know that mine aren't. They're always tan on orange hands.
So what I did is I created a kabuki, a
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cruelty free because I think, you know, I'm vegan. I've
been that way for over eleven years, and I used
to use the Mark Jacob rushes because they're really luxurious
and gorgeous until I became vegan, and I'm like, I
felt guilty about it, so I created my own what
we're based off the Mark Jacob brushes because they were
a very incredible Kabooki brush, so minor cruelty free and
(10:12):
you just spray it on and buffing in. It's so
easy because you don't touch it with your hands. It
couldn't be any easier.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So thank you for changing the industry because we needed that.
And I hate going to bed and my everything smells.
You know, your nightgown, your and your sheds, your.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Sheet, get the color on it. Yeah, yeah, So this one,
I literally spray it on. I let it drive for
ten fifteen minutes. Whenever I get in bed, I wake
up and I'm tan. It's like magic, but it doesn't
transfer to you. It doesn't transfer to anything.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Really, it really isn't. People like you ought to call
it magic and a bottle. I don't know if I
should just show you how you ow? My legs are
the really really.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You have to let's see them. Come on, let's see it.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Like judge me.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
But this is why I tan, even since I was
in the eighth grade. Okay, hold on, it's gonna be scary.
This is when we sell on QBC EI, They're like, okay,
sold out.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Ready.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh my god, wow, and it looks so natural still.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah, and I'm not even really tan now. I tan
like three days ago. So what I normally do is
I tan my whole body on Sundays and then tomorrow's Wednesday. Right, Yeah,
I tan from here to here, like my chest to hear,
and I tan from here to my elbows because you're
washing this and you're washing this like twice a day
or more your hands much more so I usually whole
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body on Sundays from chess to face and hands on Wednesday.
So I'm evenly tan all the way around.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's amazing, so fast right from the founder himself.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I know I'm gonna start doing that actual exacts all right.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well, because you'll notice that when you self tan, it's
like you're washing your face, so that fades faster. In
your hands, how much you're washing them, they fade faster.
So just spot tan the parts to even yourself out.
It's so easy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Can people think you have to do everything? Now? No,
spot tan? What needs to be tande?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think you have to do a tutorial for everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, Chasdean dot com, make sure you check it out.
The self tanner we got to see the tutorial. We
want to see the leg arm difference, all right, because.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I have it, I'll send you guys. I even have
it on my phone.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
It's like when people say that, they're like, oh, when
I say, I'm so pale on my Casper and I
feel like Casper, I feel translucent. It's bizarre, but it's
lack of confidence when all of our girls, all of
our models, no matter what their age, they can be
in their twenties, they can be in their seventies, and
once they tan, it's just like I can conquer the world.
I feel confident. It just gives you confidence, it really does.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I agree. I love being tan. I self tanned.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I do the spray tan, but I'm going to go
to Chasdean dot com and get the self tann now
that you.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Won't smell like self tan.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it is easy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So talk to me about when I know this product's
been huge for you for your career and you've done
so well with it, how'd you come up with the
idea and talk to you about the whole journey?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
All right?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Do you realize next month, November first is my twenty
fifth anniversary. I tell you remember first of two thousand,
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I remember seeing the ads in high school, and I
mean way back then.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I remember, you know, so yeah, really cool.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I run into people all the time, even guys. It's
bizarre with guys. And I was just in New York
for ten days and like guys come to me like,
oh my gosh, I used to watch your infomercial all you.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Know it's on at night. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
He's like, I grew up watching you. And he's like,
I love your message. I love because the same thing
everything I'm giving you is to boost your confidence. And
with your hair, it's like for your hair, it's like
I got tired of my color. I'm a colorist, and
I got tired of my client's color fading. Within like
two to three weeks of leaving the salon, it would
be faded and brassy. I'm like, what's going on with
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your hair? Like I don't know you did it. I'm like,
I didn't do that. It's like because I knew every
time they lathered it was stripping it. I'm on day
like four, I'm gonna take it down because I have
a lot of I have remoist up here and treatment
up here, but this is four day hair. And I
just put it up on my top. Kno, like right now,
I have remoist that I'm slicking it back with up here.
But this is I haven't lathered my hair in four
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cleansed my hair. I haven't lathered in thirty years, but
I haven't cleansed it in four days. I haven't cut
it in a year, and I've this is one hundred
percent my natural color. Haven't colored in over two years
August fifth of twenty twenty three, so over to two
plus years. So that's why I gave it up because
I used to have to shampoo and condition this hair
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twice a day. Because every time I would use shampoo,
it would rob my scalp of my natural essential oils.
And when you do that, even with your skin, your
body works over time to replenish it. So I would
always have oily hair. So this is slick back. It
looks like it might be, but it's not only slip back.
With the remoist. I would always have oily scalp. And
it was a vicious cycle. So going from cleansing fourteen
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times a week, twice the day, morning and night.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I remember it. It's like if we're going to dinner
or a movie.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I'm like, i gotta go home and shower because I'm
getting itchy in here because it's oily, my ends are dry.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And it was a vicious cycle. So when I had.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
That light bulb moment, like thirty years ago of the
whole concept, it was like I knew I was onto something.
Little did I know that it would change around the world,
because it's like everyone was using Everyone used lather, and
I would ask my clients, I'm like, why do you
(15:31):
use shampoo and like to get my hair clean? I'm like, okay,
So if you could clean your hair but not strip
your hair or your color, would you not opt for that? Like, yeah,
of course I would, but there's nothing else. What else
can I do? So that's how when I came up
with the category, and it was hard for people to
grasp not lathern because we're all born clen Clen's clean.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
The more leather, the more bubbles, the better the cleaner
it is.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
But clean equals strip squeaky clean, strip clean, and then
you're one strip in your color too. You're robbing your
scalp of not only your natural sensuils, but all the
beneficial back tiers that work off all the bat because
you're stripping it, so everything works on overtimeload to repair that,
and it becomes a vicious cycle. So once people see
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it and realize, oh my gosh, this is so different,
it's like my hair feels like what it should feel
like instead of stripped hair and chasing my tail. Once
you strip it, then you got to detangle it, and
then you got.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
To put volume in it, and then you got to
smooth it.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
It's a vicious cycle the other way, and this way
it's you're setting yourself up for success every time you cleanse.
And she brought up the travel packs earlier, so that's
why you don't ever want to be without it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I've had so many people.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Like, oh, I went on a trip and I didn't
bring one with me because I thought I only become
two or three days. But I was gone for a
week instead, and I had to use the hotel shampoo
in my hair. I'm like, I've heard that so many times,
like travel packs, take them with you. You can fit
eight of them in a sandwich zip lock bag.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's so easy.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So yeah, it's you don't ever want to be without
it once you see the difference, like my lathers not
touched my hair in over thirty years. I have more
models that have been twenty years. So yeah, you don't
want to go back once you see the light.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I just want to run my fingers through your hair.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I was gonna say, it looks so so shiny, like
what it feels so good, It looks amazing, and this.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Is again so pretty.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I wish I had this when I was in high school,
because again it's not a joke. I had bushy, frizzy hair.
I have unruly hair in high school. I'm not joking
with this. I probably had what I considered maybe three
or four good hair days through the whole high school. Wow,
and it's like, what did I do that day that
it was good that day? And I would chase my tail,
like what did I do it was special that day
(17:43):
that it turned out right? If I had went in
high school, because I didn't get my confidence in school
till I was in my senior year, but that was
for different reasons. I was on the yearbook staff and
so I just became a little bit more outgoing. But
if I had went in high school, I know, oh,
I would have had a lot more confidence.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Believe I remember confidence ever, you're like the most outgoing.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What I love about you is you see a problem
and you create a solution.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
That's what I like, and that's why I tell people
they should do. It's like, what is it you need
to do in life? What bugs you about something that
you're always doing? Your mcgiver fix tour? What are you
always tweaking? Because the way it is on the whole
spectrum drives you crazy? And that's what work on that
and that's what I do. It's like the self Tanner.
I was like everywhere in my line, everything I've created
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is because there was a problem there and I had
to find a fix for our solution. And I tell
people that, like what drives you crazy about? Okay, a
stupid little thing, But I wear my belt and I've
done it for twenty five years or more on my
on the my side, but everyone wears in the middle.
When I did my first infomercial, you know might remember
this part, the very first one I did in two
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thousand and seven, we did it, and when we're ready
to do the second one in two thousand and eight,
they're like, can you do us a favor? Can you
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on the side, it's like they said, we did a
poll and people want to know why you wear your.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Belt to the side.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
And I'm like, if someone's not going to buy my
cleanser because I wear my belt to the side, we
have a bigger problem here.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And I never did. I didn't conform to it. But
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Speaker 6 (19:17):
They're probably asking why because it's different. But the reason
I do when people ask me how can we wear
your belt to the side, is because right now, when
you're sitting down and women and guys, but guys, that
belt buckle goes into your stomach and you get an
impression on your stomach and it feels uncomfortable. And I
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I don't sit on it. It's not in my I
don't want to say gut, but my stomach what not.
And it doesn't hurt, but it always used to. And
that's why I started putting on side. So my own
it was is that was an easy fix. This bothers me.
How can I fix that? Oh, just put it to
the side. I've been doing that for I'm on god
way over two decades. That's enough that people always wonder
why isn't on the side, And when I say it,
I'm like, because I went in the middle when you
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Very uncomfortable and people like, yeah, it is, like, then
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Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yep. I do think they.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Make it seem like it's such an odd thing. That
make it seem like it's so weird. Why is the
belt off to your side? I'm like, because it bothers
me in the middle? Yeah, exactly, how does that? How
does that bother your affect your Like that's they literally
wanted me not to do that.
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I'm like, no, sorry, I'm wearing it how I wear it.
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So you've done work with so many people and so
many different products and brands, and I know your product
is a product because you had a problem and created
a solution. What are some other Hollywood tips and other
things you've seen in the industry in the red carpets
that have really wowed you along the way. How can
you tell the difference between good hair great hair?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Okay, good hair is like, oh, her hair looks healthy,
it looks shiny, it looks pretty.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
That's good hair.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Great hair is like Wow, that's great or that's iconic,
and I will remember that that made a statement. And
there are like again, my friend at dear does Nicole
Kidman's hair now, and he like, he gives her a
lot of wow moments. Now it wasn't always that way,
but she's found her she's found her way, and it's
like there's things I see. I'm like, God, he really's
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got this down. He's got it good. And it is
it's memorable moments. So the difference is is am I
going to remember that? And when you remember it, that's
the light bulb moment. I had two that I remember
off the top of my head from mine and one
goes way back, like twenty years. It was my first
celebrity client was Nicolette Sheridan and when I I had
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a crush on her way back when.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
It was on not slanding days and she doesn't even
know what that is. Probably it was not slanding. I
had a crush on her.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
She played page she was gorgeous and everyone her jawline,
her bone structure. I'm like, I don't care if I
come back as male as female next lifetime. I want
that bone structure that that Nicolet Sheridan has. It was amazing.
So she became my client, and I'm like, first of all,
they not tease me, but like, oh, your crush is
coming in. Your girlfriend's coming in. So she became my
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client and I got her off the bleach. I got
off the shampoo on the very first time and got
her onto color instead of bleach because her hair was
so thin. And she her brother happened to be dating
Tory Spelling at the time, and she sent Tori and
that was in nine to two one o days, and
I got her off the bleach and her off the shampoo.
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And they always would tell the other one, Okay, when
you go to him, he's going to tell you to
stop with the hot tool, stop with the bleach, stop
with the shampoo. Just trussed him because it really does work.
And people thought I was crazy then, but trust him,
it works. So Nicolette's first light bulb moment. And I
give her credit because she was the one that gets
the credit for this. She was going to the carousela
Hope for Kathy Hilton. And it's when she was dating
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Michael Bolton and I was doing her hair and we
were running behind because she and I both run behind,
so she was to me late and whatnot, and I
was doing her hair and at the time, I did
use curling irons and I would curl her hair and
I would pin it up with little bobby pins. And
it became late that she's like, I've got to go,
like got to go. I'm like, I'm not done yet.
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I'm not done yet, and I had it all pinned up.
She goes, it's okay, I'm just gonna go like this,
and you can. You can find it out there, and
it was her with the rolls and all pinned up
and with the dress she wore it.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
It is timeless.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
And she literally because I was supposed to drop it
and work through it and brush it, it sprayed it
a lot. She literally wore it to the Carousel Hope
that way. And it's like she made a statement that like,
oh my gosh, it was iconic. And that was over.
That was like twenty five years ago, and the second
one I did was twenty six years ago. Was Alanis
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Morsett when she was nominated at the Grammys. And you
can look this up and you'll remember, Hopefully you'll remember
it twenty six years ago.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know your ages. She's probably too young, but
in ninety ninety Okay, look it up. Okay, going to
see her in Vegas on the twenty second.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But I want to see there.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
You should, You should be her.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Her assistant was my client, and she asked me, Hey,
Elenis is nominated for the Grammys, would you want to
do her air? I'm like, of course I would. And
that was beginning of my like red carpet stuff and
all that. So I knew what I would like to
do in my head, but I hadn't even had dialogue
with her.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So I had to.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And this is part of it. You have to keep
a vision in your head and hold on to that.
And I went and I created from snaps, you know,
snaps for your clothes. You used to snap your clothes.
I glued, Oh my god, what are they like rhinestones
and stuff on them, glitter stuff, rhinestones. And I made snaps,
I made ties. I wanted her to sparkle. And when
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I got to her, this is before I launched my win.
Her hair was to her butt back then, and I
gave my assistant. I gave her assistant my cleansing condistry
to use. I said, have her use this in the morning, cleanse, rinse, repeat,
I'll show up, I'll do her hair. And I did.
And this is before I launched one that's what's amazing
with February, and I launched it ten eleven later. And
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I got to her room and she says, did you
tell Chad's what I told to you? And she says, no,
you tell. She says, I don't know what you had
me cleanse my hair with because it was in an
unmarked bottle. She goes, I don't know what you had
me cleanse my hair with this morning. But she goes,
my hair has never been smoother, silkier, shinier. The comb
glided right through it and it was when it was
to her butt. And I asked her, what do you
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want to do today? What can we do? She goes,
you can do whatever you want, and that's your ideal dream.
Your dream is whatever you want. She goes, you can
do whatever you want. I only asked that my hair
is not in my face. I'm like, I've got this
because when you're looking down, you want it out of
your face. So if you remember it, I did. I
did braids in there, I did twists in there, I
did the rhinestones in there. And she won that year
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for icon is an ion, Oh my god, ionic. So
you watched the video and as the cameras went around
she ironic, ionic, thank.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You, I said, ic irn.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
As the video cameras went around her, she was sparkling, shining,
and that because their hair is long and dark, how
are you going to make it shine and make a
moment of it? And that was my second moment that
it's one that everyone sees it and does it. And
I never did that again because once I did that,
everyone was doing that. It's not been clipping into their hair.
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So it's when you do it, you do it, and
you move on to the next because everyone does it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Talk about iconic, you're talking about iconic looks, but it
was ironic.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Oh my gosh, ironic, iconic.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But I will say, you know, just to put your
hands on the hair of so many amazing people and
to have done all the things you've done, to do
all the things you've done in the past twenty plus years.
What does it feel like you've had quite the journey
and really just doing this from the heart.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Yeah, and that's it. That's one hundred percent. It's when
I met you guys, you saw it, you felt that,
you felt my passion. And it's constant. It's always there.
It's always there. I can be in an airport, I
can be at a movie, I can be at a restaurant.
I see someone, if they ask a question, it's like
it's there, and it's like it's kind of like I
just started this journey, but it's been, like you said,
a twenty five thirty year journey, but.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's as if it was brand new.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
And when you see couples that are together and you're like,
oh my gosh, they seem like they are just started dating.
They're like, oh, we've been together thirty years, but they
keep it fresh. It's kind of like that same sort
of element, like what's set secret behind it?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And mine is the passion is there.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
I want everyone not just hair now, hair, skin, tans,
all to look good and if I can help you
with that, I'm here to help guide you to that.
So that is and it's because I really care in it.
It shows because I'll I'll help you to a fault.
It's like as much as I can, like DM me
on Instagram, I really do help, and so you do.
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And your answer, it's my passion. It's my passion.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We can tell and we love you and and your
products and keep coming up with them because they're changing
the world and they're making us healthier. And we just
appreciate you and your products so much. And when we
come to LA, I know you're not in LA right now,
but when we do see you again, do you still.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Work with clients? Do you still do hair?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:18):
In LA, I do it on Saturdays only because the
rest are I have building, there's construction, there are things
going on in product development. So in LA usually on
Saturdays when I'm in New York. So we have this
salon in the West Village in New York. There Tuesday
through Saturday. When I'm there, I'm booked and I book
everyone i can while I'm there.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
In LA, it's Saturday. So yes, all.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Right for your schedule. Yeah, we'll come twelve months from now.
Just let us know whenever you're available. We'll be there
midnight or.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
LA whichever one, you're la. Whatever works for you, Okay,
I'm excited.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
I'll be there the week of Thanksgiving this year it's
your birthday.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Wait, when's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
November twenty six, it's the day before Thanksgiving this year.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
My my pups, my twenty two month old pups through
birthday is November twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
They're going to be too, no.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Way, maybe we should just go and do it.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We should probably do a big birthday celebration together at
the salon.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
We'll do it.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
My sisters is the twenty ninth, so my sister is
twenty ninth. So it's hot weeka birthday week day. I'm
there that Monday through Saturday. I'm there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and then Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh all right, okay, all right, so we'll let me know,
let me know for me.
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Yeah, we'll message you. And we love you, Chaz.
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And we're so excited to have you here today on red.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Thank you, And if they have questions, and Instagram is
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Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yes you do, and when I'm live.
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First time we hit you were.
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Thank you for joining us on Red, see you soon, thank.
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You, thank you. Bye.
Welcome to Arid Red.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
It's Michelle Barone and it's Ashley McPherson.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
We're so excited to be here.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Oh yeah, okay, we got to talk about how our
hair has been so shiny recently.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah really, I mean, your hair looks amazing, and I
have to tell you my hair is naturally curly, but
I love it like this.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Okay, this is the one line that I tell all
of my friends about if I'm traveling, I need something
quick to put in my bags, not something that's like
a little travel size from the store.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I love the when little travel like what are they
called the little packets?
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Yea, everywhere with me and.
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There's a whole bunch of different kinds, so it's like
a little surprise every time I take one out of
the box.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I love it too. And today we have the founder
of When.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
So excited. I've been seeing this on TV.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
For years, so he is an icon in the beauty industry,
and I'll tell you hair care is his thing. He's
been doing this for many years, and I'm so excited
to be here with him.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Chas Dean, how are you hello.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I'm great, great, great.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hey, guys.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Before today's episode, I want to talk to you about
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Absolutely.
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Speaker 3 (01:30):
Honestly, it's pretty amazing seeing how mental health actually affects people.
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We've talked about mental health in almost every episode, and
it's a serious topic.
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You know, Jazz, you look amazing, Okay.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Cause you did say it's hair care and skincare. And
I'm not joking. It's like I've disclosed this because when yeah,
I met you a year and a half ago.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yes, I get migraines. I get migraines all the time.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
So back six and a half years ago, I used
to get botox.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
It really helped my migraines.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
During COVID, I realized when we were locked down, I
went through my Instagram and you see pictures and whatnot,
and I realized that the last photo shoot I did
in May of twenty nineteen, my eyebrow was lifted I'm like,
I didn't like that. So I have not done botox
since March of twenty nineteen, and I do have skincare.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
That can you hear me?
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Yes, skincare that I developed through COVID, and that's all
I use on my skin. Everything is one hundred percent natural,
and I get more compliments on my skin and how
I look now being natural, So my element is is
Obviously I was spending a lot more money on boattos.
I do, unfortunately get a lot more migraines now, but
I feel better about how I look, so I appreciate
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that you do noticing that my skin has changed over
the years.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Absolutely, I have to be honest. You look like in
a great way.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
You're wearing a filter, Like your skin looks so good
and clean and not processed, not overdone. Your facial hair
is like so tight. Everything looks beautifle full, like really
really nice.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
Yeah, the only thing I'm wearing as I have guyliner
and I always wear that.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
But that's it.
Speaker 6 (04:08):
The rest is well, I met you for myself tanner,
so yes, this is my self tanner. So I feel
better about my skin because it's tan I would be
like Casper. If I wasn't tan I'm really really, really pale.
And that's why I developed my self tanner because I
got I got tired of always smelling like self tanner.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
That was number one reason.
Speaker 6 (04:27):
So with mind you don't smell like self tanner is
most important to me. But it looks like a natural
tan as well, So thank you. I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
No, of course it glows. And tell me more about
your self tanner. You know, I know it's a product
that you really care about and you again created it
because you wanted it for yourself, and now so many
others are enjoying on it. Can you talk to me
about it?
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Yeah? I created it. Oh gosh, I here like four
or five years ago.
Speaker 6 (04:53):
And the reason I did is because I always self tann.
I've been tanning since I was in little the eighth
grade because I realized.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
When we moved, when we moved from.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Doylestown, Bucks County, Pennsylvania to California. When I was in
the middle of the eighth grade and I started getting
sunn from California, I realized it gave me confidence, and
I realized that's what the problem is. In fall and
winter in Pennsylvania. I always felt not confident and I
didn't know what it was to. We went to California
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and I realized, oh, I have color on my skin.
I feel better about myself when I'm pale and pasty.
I lacked confidence. I felt ugly, I felt unattractive. I
didn't have confidence. So I would always before going to school,
I would take aluminum foil and I would put it
on a record and I would tan my face so
I felt better about myself. And after coming out of
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high school, I went to tanning beds and I did
all of that, and then I, in all honesty, I
got skin cancer on my back and I never did
a tanning bed again because even when I did tanning beds,
I knew you. I believed it wasn't good for you.
I felt like I was in a microwave oven. I'm
being honest. I got probably being cooked from the inside out,
but my vanity of feeling better about my looks, I
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still did it until I got skin cancer. I never
did it again. That was like sixteen years ago, and
then I've got it two other times after that. Now
I'm good and clear. I get checked twice a year
just to make sure, but I started self tanning then,
is my point? Instead of going to tanning beds, I
started self tanning. I tried everyone out there, everyone that's
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out there, trust me. I was either orange or kind
of murky or khaki. They were all weird, you look dirty,
all those things I tried, and I finally landed with one.
I won't name the brand, but it was a tann
towel and it wasn't easy to do because they would
dry out quickly. It was just like any of those towel,
let's say, dry out fast, so I'd have to use
two or three for my whole body. It would tan somewhat.
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I was always a bit orangey. I always smelled like
self tanner. And when I went, yeah, it was horrible.
And when I went out on a couple of dates,
someone's like, they're like, you always smelling self tanner. I'm like,
two things happened. I used to do altoids. I used
to do the licorice altoids and they're like, I don't
really like liquorice. I'm like, oh, I can change that.
I'll just do the mint ones because I don't chew gum,
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so I'll do the mint ones. And then the next
thing they said was and you always smell like self tanner.
I'm like, sorry, that's non negotiable, not happening. I will
not be paiste and not be pale. But what it did,
it turned on my light bulb. I'm like, why am
I settling for tanners that smell like self tanner? And
that was my aha, light bulb moment, Like why am
I settling? Why not I create my own? So that
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is what I set out to do. And I told
them that it had to look natural, it couldn't have
that self tanner smell.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
They kept trying to add colorance to it as well.
Speaker 6 (07:45):
I'm like, I don't want you to add colorance to
it because that's what transfers.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
And I said, They're like, how are you going to
know where you spray?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
I'm like, if you can't feel or see where you
spray it without adding color to it, then you shouldn't
be using self tanners. So it doesn't it tans you evenly.
And it's plant based, so no matter which one of
us use it, and this is how I met you
guys a year and a half ago, is no matter
who use it, your skin tone is going to tant
to your own natural proteins slash DNA because you only
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you're the only one that has your DNA, so no
two tans are going to be alike.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
And it's not orange, it's not streaky.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
The best part is you have a subtle smell of
self tanner while it's processing, but once you shower off,
like you will never smell like self tanner. So yeah,
we've won two awards for at QBC so far with
it for Customer Choice, Beaudy Awards. But it's important to
me because now I never smell like self tanner, and
that's really important. Tans evenly fades evenly, and I ten
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year round because I am like casperm, like Casper. If
you saw my legs, how pale they are, it's like crazy,
it's crazy.
Speaker 4 (08:50):
Well, you know what, they're pretty much like this towel.
They're pretty much like this.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
That's honestly the number one thing I love fig tanning.
I'm always self tanning like one, if not twice.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I love being tanned.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I feel like sometimes I'm in my like ugly aeron,
I'm like what do I feel so ugly? And then
I tan and I'm like, oh, that's literally what it was.
But the one thing, right, the one thing tanning I hate, though,
is always the smell. I'm like, I hate like the
day after the day one tan. I'm like, I literally
smell disgusting.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
Like Frito's right, like fritos or something like burnt stan fritos.
Speaker 4 (09:22):
Whatever that smell is.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yes, well we don't have to worry about anymore, not anymore.
So it's a chest. Where can people get this amazing tanner?
Speaker 6 (09:30):
On chastin dot com, Sometimes on QBC dot com as well,
but definitely I always have it on chastein dot com
and it's I have it in a spray so you
just spray it on the Other thing I did is
I the delivery system of how you tan. I'm like,
it was never good because your hands were always tan.
You know that mine aren't. They're always tan on orange hands.
So what I did is I created a kabuki, a
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cruelty free because I think, you know, I'm vegan. I've
been that way for over eleven years, and I used
to use the Mark Jacob rushes because they're really luxurious
and gorgeous until I became vegan, and I'm like, I
felt guilty about it, so I created my own what
we're based off the Mark Jacob brushes because they were
a very incredible Kabooki brush, so minor cruelty free and
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you just spray it on and buffing in. It's so
easy because you don't touch it with your hands. It
couldn't be any easier.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So thank you for changing the industry because we needed that.
And I hate going to bed and my everything smells.
You know, your nightgown, your and your sheds, your.
Speaker 6 (10:29):
Sheet, get the color on it. Yeah, yeah, So this one,
I literally spray it on. I let it drive for
ten fifteen minutes. Whenever I get in bed, I wake
up and I'm tan. It's like magic, but it doesn't
transfer to you. It doesn't transfer to anything.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
Really, it really isn't. People like you ought to call
it magic and a bottle. I don't know if I
should just show you how you ow? My legs are
the really really.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
You have to let's see them. Come on, let's see it.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Like judge me.
Speaker 6 (10:55):
But this is why I tan, even since I was
in the eighth grade. Okay, hold on, it's gonna be scary.
This is when we sell on QBC EI, They're like, okay,
sold out.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Ready.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Oh my god, wow, and it looks so natural still.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
Yeah, and I'm not even really tan now. I tan
like three days ago. So what I normally do is
I tan my whole body on Sundays and then tomorrow's Wednesday. Right, Yeah,
I tan from here to here, like my chest to hear,
and I tan from here to my elbows because you're
washing this and you're washing this like twice a day
or more your hands much more so I usually whole
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body on Sundays from chess to face and hands on Wednesday.
So I'm evenly tan all the way around.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's amazing, so fast right from the founder himself.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
I know I'm gonna start doing that actual exacts all right.
Speaker 6 (11:46):
Well, because you'll notice that when you self tan, it's
like you're washing your face, so that fades faster. In
your hands, how much you're washing them, they fade faster.
So just spot tan the parts to even yourself out.
It's so easy.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
Can people think you have to do everything? Now? No,
spot tan? What needs to be tande?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I think you have to do a tutorial for everybody.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, Chasdean dot com, make sure you check it out.
The self tanner we got to see the tutorial. We
want to see the leg arm difference, all right, because.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I have it, I'll send you guys. I even have
it on my phone.
Speaker 6 (12:15):
It's like when people say that, they're like, oh, when
I say, I'm so pale on my Casper and I
feel like Casper, I feel translucent. It's bizarre, but it's
lack of confidence when all of our girls, all of
our models, no matter what their age, they can be
in their twenties, they can be in their seventies, and
once they tan, it's just like I can conquer the world.
I feel confident. It just gives you confidence, it really does.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I agree. I love being tan. I self tanned.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I do the spray tan, but I'm going to go
to Chasdean dot com and get the self tann now
that you.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Won't smell like self tan.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Yeah, it is easy.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
So talk to me about when I know this product's
been huge for you for your career and you've done
so well with it, how'd you come up with the
idea and talk to you about the whole journey?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
All right?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Do you realize next month, November first is my twenty
fifth anniversary. I tell you remember first of two thousand,
two thousand.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I remember seeing the ads in high school, and I
mean way back then.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I remember, you know, so yeah, really cool.
Speaker 6 (13:21):
I run into people all the time, even guys. It's
bizarre with guys. And I was just in New York
for ten days and like guys come to me like,
oh my gosh, I used to watch your infomercial all you.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Know it's on at night. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
He's like, I grew up watching you. And he's like,
I love your message. I love because the same thing
everything I'm giving you is to boost your confidence. And
with your hair, it's like for your hair, it's like
I got tired of my color. I'm a colorist, and
I got tired of my client's color fading. Within like
two to three weeks of leaving the salon, it would
be faded and brassy. I'm like, what's going on with
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your hair? Like I don't know you did it. I'm like,
I didn't do that. It's like because I knew every
time they lathered it was stripping it. I'm on day
like four, I'm gonna take it down because I have
a lot of I have remoist up here and treatment
up here, but this is four day hair. And I
just put it up on my top. Kno, like right now,
I have remoist that I'm slicking it back with up here.
But this is I haven't lathered my hair in four
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cleansed my hair. I haven't lathered in thirty years, but
I haven't cleansed it in four days. I haven't cut
it in a year, and I've this is one hundred
percent my natural color. Haven't colored in over two years
August fifth of twenty twenty three, so over to two
plus years. So that's why I gave it up because
I used to have to shampoo and condition this hair
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twice a day. Because every time I would use shampoo,
it would rob my scalp of my natural essential oils.
And when you do that, even with your skin, your
body works over time to replenish it. So I would
always have oily hair. So this is slick back. It
looks like it might be, but it's not only slip back.
With the remoist. I would always have oily scalp. And
it was a vicious cycle. So going from cleansing fourteen
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times a week, twice the day, morning and night.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
I remember it. It's like if we're going to dinner
or a movie.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
I'm like, i gotta go home and shower because I'm
getting itchy in here because it's oily, my ends are dry.
Speaker 4 (15:08):
And it was a vicious cycle. So when I had.
Speaker 6 (15:10):
That light bulb moment, like thirty years ago of the
whole concept, it was like I knew I was onto something.
Little did I know that it would change around the world,
because it's like everyone was using Everyone used lather, and
I would ask my clients, I'm like, why do you
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use shampoo and like to get my hair clean? I'm like, okay,
So if you could clean your hair but not strip
your hair or your color, would you not opt for that? Like, yeah,
of course I would, but there's nothing else. What else
can I do? So that's how when I came up
with the category, and it was hard for people to
grasp not lathern because we're all born clen Clen's clean.
Speaker 4 (15:50):
The more leather, the more bubbles, the better the cleaner
it is.
Speaker 6 (15:54):
But clean equals strip squeaky clean, strip clean, and then
you're one strip in your color too. You're robbing your
scalp of not only your natural sensuils, but all the
beneficial back tiers that work off all the bat because
you're stripping it, so everything works on overtimeload to repair that,
and it becomes a vicious cycle. So once people see
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it and realize, oh my gosh, this is so different,
it's like my hair feels like what it should feel
like instead of stripped hair and chasing my tail. Once
you strip it, then you got to detangle it, and
then you got.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
To put volume in it, and then you got to
smooth it.
Speaker 6 (16:28):
It's a vicious cycle the other way, and this way
it's you're setting yourself up for success every time you cleanse.
And she brought up the travel packs earlier, so that's
why you don't ever want to be without it.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I've had so many people.
Speaker 6 (16:39):
Like, oh, I went on a trip and I didn't
bring one with me because I thought I only become
two or three days. But I was gone for a
week instead, and I had to use the hotel shampoo
in my hair. I'm like, I've heard that so many times,
like travel packs, take them with you. You can fit
eight of them in a sandwich zip lock bag.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
It's so easy.
Speaker 6 (16:55):
So yeah, it's you don't ever want to be without
it once you see the difference, like my lathers not
touched my hair in over thirty years. I have more
models that have been twenty years. So yeah, you don't
want to go back once you see the light.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I just want to run my fingers through your hair.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
I was gonna say, it looks so so shiny, like
what it feels so good, It looks amazing, and this.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
Is again so pretty.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
I wish I had this when I was in high school,
because again it's not a joke. I had bushy, frizzy hair.
I have unruly hair in high school. I'm not joking
with this. I probably had what I considered maybe three
or four good hair days through the whole high school. Wow,
and it's like, what did I do that day that
it was good that day? And I would chase my tail,
like what did I do it was special that day
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that it turned out right? If I had went in
high school, because I didn't get my confidence in school
till I was in my senior year, but that was
for different reasons. I was on the yearbook staff and
so I just became a little bit more outgoing. But
if I had went in high school, I know, oh,
I would have had a lot more confidence.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Believe I remember confidence ever, you're like the most outgoing.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
What I love about you is you see a problem
and you create a solution.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
That's what I like, and that's why I tell people
they should do. It's like, what is it you need
to do in life? What bugs you about something that
you're always doing? Your mcgiver fix tour? What are you
always tweaking? Because the way it is on the whole
spectrum drives you crazy? And that's what work on that
and that's what I do. It's like the self Tanner.
I was like everywhere in my line, everything I've created
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is because there was a problem there and I had
to find a fix for our solution. And I tell
people that, like what drives you crazy about? Okay, a
stupid little thing, But I wear my belt and I've
done it for twenty five years or more on my
on the my side, but everyone wears in the middle.
When I did my first infomercial, you know might remember
this part, the very first one I did in two
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thousand and seven, we did it, and when we're ready
to do the second one in two thousand and eight,
they're like, can you do us a favor? Can you
please put your belt in the middle because by putting
on the side, it's like they said, we did a
poll and people want to know why you wear your.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
Belt to the side.
Speaker 6 (19:09):
And I'm like, if someone's not going to buy my
cleanser because I wear my belt to the side, we
have a bigger problem here.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
And I never did. I didn't conform to it. But
I'm like, are you serious? People are?
Speaker 6 (19:17):
They're probably asking why because it's different. But the reason
I do when people ask me how can we wear
your belt to the side, is because right now, when
you're sitting down and women and guys, but guys, that
belt buckle goes into your stomach and you get an
impression on your stomach and it feels uncomfortable. And I
say that there when they're like, yeah, you're right, it does,
I'm like, that's why I put mine on the side.
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I don't sit on it. It's not in my I
don't want to say gut, but my stomach what not.
And it doesn't hurt, but it always used to. And
that's why I started putting on side. So my own
it was is that was an easy fix. This bothers me.
How can I fix that? Oh, just put it to
the side. I've been doing that for I'm on god
way over two decades. That's enough that people always wonder
why isn't on the side, And when I say it,
I'm like, because I went in the middle when you
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sit down, it is.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
Very uncomfortable and people like, yeah, it is, like, then
move it.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
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you want to get a reaction out of people, and
that's just another thing to talk about.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yep. I do think they.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
Make it seem like it's such an odd thing. That
make it seem like it's so weird. Why is the
belt off to your side? I'm like, because it bothers
me in the middle? Yeah, exactly, how does that? How
does that bother your affect your Like that's they literally
wanted me not to do that.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
I'm like, no, sorry, I'm wearing it how I wear it.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
And if someone doesn't want to buy it because literally
my belt's on my side, we have a bigger problem
for real.
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So you've done work with so many people and so
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is a product because you had a problem and created
a solution. What are some other Hollywood tips and other
things you've seen in the industry in the red carpets
that have really wowed you along the way. How can
you tell the difference between good hair great hair?
Speaker 6 (23:39):
Okay, good hair is like, oh, her hair looks healthy,
it looks shiny, it looks pretty.
Speaker 4 (23:43):
That's good hair.
Speaker 6 (23:45):
Great hair is like Wow, that's great or that's iconic,
and I will remember that that made a statement. And
there are like again, my friend at dear does Nicole
Kidman's hair now, and he like, he gives her a
lot of wow moments. Now it wasn't always that way,
but she's found her she's found her way, and it's
like there's things I see. I'm like, God, he really's
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got this down. He's got it good. And it is
it's memorable moments. So the difference is is am I
going to remember that? And when you remember it, that's
the light bulb moment. I had two that I remember
off the top of my head from mine and one
goes way back, like twenty years. It was my first
celebrity client was Nicolette Sheridan and when I I had
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a crush on her way back when.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
It was on not slanding days and she doesn't even
know what that is. Probably it was not slanding. I
had a crush on her.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
She played page she was gorgeous and everyone her jawline,
her bone structure. I'm like, I don't care if I
come back as male as female next lifetime. I want
that bone structure that that Nicolet Sheridan has. It was amazing.
So she became my client, and I'm like, first of all,
they not tease me, but like, oh, your crush is
coming in. Your girlfriend's coming in. So she became my
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client and I got her off the bleach. I got
off the shampoo on the very first time and got
her onto color instead of bleach because her hair was
so thin. And she her brother happened to be dating
Tory Spelling at the time, and she sent Tori and
that was in nine to two one o days, and
I got her off the bleach and her off the shampoo.
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And they always would tell the other one, Okay, when
you go to him, he's going to tell you to
stop with the hot tool, stop with the bleach, stop
with the shampoo. Just trussed him because it really does work.
And people thought I was crazy then, but trust him,
it works. So Nicolette's first light bulb moment. And I
give her credit because she was the one that gets
the credit for this. She was going to the carousela
Hope for Kathy Hilton. And it's when she was dating
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Michael Bolton and I was doing her hair and we
were running behind because she and I both run behind,
so she was to me late and whatnot, and I
was doing her hair and at the time, I did
use curling irons and I would curl her hair and
I would pin it up with little bobby pins. And
it became late that she's like, I've got to go,
like got to go. I'm like, I'm not done yet.
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I'm not done yet, and I had it all pinned up.
She goes, it's okay, I'm just gonna go like this,
and you can. You can find it out there, and
it was her with the rolls and all pinned up
and with the dress she wore it.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
It is timeless.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
And she literally because I was supposed to drop it
and work through it and brush it, it sprayed it
a lot. She literally wore it to the Carousel Hope
that way. And it's like she made a statement that like,
oh my gosh, it was iconic. And that was over.
That was like twenty five years ago, and the second
one I did was twenty six years ago. Was Alanis
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Morsett when she was nominated at the Grammys. And you
can look this up and you'll remember, Hopefully you'll remember
it twenty six years ago.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
I don't know your ages. She's probably too young, but
in ninety ninety Okay, look it up. Okay, going to
see her in Vegas on the twenty second.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
But I want to see there.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
You should, You should be her.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Her assistant was my client, and she asked me, Hey,
Elenis is nominated for the Grammys, would you want to
do her air? I'm like, of course I would. And
that was beginning of my like red carpet stuff and
all that. So I knew what I would like to
do in my head, but I hadn't even had dialogue
with her.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
So I had to.
Speaker 6 (27:16):
And this is part of it. You have to keep
a vision in your head and hold on to that.
And I went and I created from snaps, you know,
snaps for your clothes. You used to snap your clothes.
I glued, Oh my god, what are they like rhinestones
and stuff on them, glitter stuff, rhinestones. And I made snaps,
I made ties. I wanted her to sparkle. And when
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I got to her, this is before I launched my win.
Her hair was to her butt back then, and I
gave my assistant. I gave her assistant my cleansing condistry
to use. I said, have her use this in the morning, cleanse, rinse, repeat,
I'll show up, I'll do her hair. And I did.
And this is before I launched one that's what's amazing
with February, and I launched it ten eleven later. And
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I got to her room and she says, did you
tell Chad's what I told to you? And she says, no,
you tell. She says, I don't know what you had
me cleanse my hair with because it was in an
unmarked bottle. She goes, I don't know what you had
me cleanse my hair with this morning. But she goes,
my hair has never been smoother, silkier, shinier. The comb
glided right through it and it was when it was
to her butt. And I asked her, what do you
(28:22):
want to do today? What can we do? She goes,
you can do whatever you want, and that's your ideal dream.
Your dream is whatever you want. She goes, you can
do whatever you want. I only asked that my hair
is not in my face. I'm like, I've got this
because when you're looking down, you want it out of
your face. So if you remember it, I did. I
did braids in there, I did twists in there, I
did the rhinestones in there. And she won that year
(28:44):
for icon is an ion, Oh my god, ionic. So
you watched the video and as the cameras went around
she ironic, ionic, thank.
Speaker 4 (28:54):
You, I said, ic irn.
Speaker 6 (28:56):
As the video cameras went around her, she was sparkling, shining,
and that because their hair is long and dark, how
are you going to make it shine and make a
moment of it? And that was my second moment that
it's one that everyone sees it and does it. And
I never did that again because once I did that,
everyone was doing that. It's not been clipping into their hair.
(29:16):
So it's when you do it, you do it, and
you move on to the next because everyone does it.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
That is so amazing.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Talk about iconic, you're talking about iconic looks, but it
was ironic.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
Oh my gosh, ironic, iconic.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
But I will say, you know, just to put your
hands on the hair of so many amazing people and
to have done all the things you've done, to do
all the things you've done in the past twenty plus years.
What does it feel like you've had quite the journey
and really just doing this from the heart.
Speaker 6 (29:53):
Yeah, and that's it. That's one hundred percent. It's when
I met you guys, you saw it, you felt that,
you felt my passion. And it's constant. It's always there.
It's always there. I can be in an airport, I
can be at a movie, I can be at a restaurant.
I see someone, if they ask a question, it's like
it's there, and it's like it's kind of like I
just started this journey, but it's been, like you said,
a twenty five thirty year journey, but.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
It's as if it was brand new.
Speaker 6 (30:17):
And when you see couples that are together and you're like,
oh my gosh, they seem like they are just started dating.
They're like, oh, we've been together thirty years, but they
keep it fresh. It's kind of like that same sort
of element, like what's set secret behind it?
Speaker 4 (30:28):
And mine is the passion is there.
Speaker 6 (30:30):
I want everyone not just hair now, hair, skin, tans,
all to look good and if I can help you
with that, I'm here to help guide you to that.
So that is and it's because I really care in it.
It shows because I'll I'll help you to a fault.
It's like as much as I can, like DM me
on Instagram, I really do help, and so you do.
(30:52):
And your answer, it's my passion. It's my passion.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
We can tell and we love you and and your
products and keep coming up with them because they're changing
the world and they're making us healthier. And we just
appreciate you and your products so much. And when we
come to LA, I know you're not in LA right now,
but when we do see you again, do you still.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Work with clients? Do you still do hair?
Speaker 4 (31:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (31:18):
In LA, I do it on Saturdays only because the
rest are I have building, there's construction, there are things
going on in product development. So in LA usually on
Saturdays when I'm in New York. So we have this
salon in the West Village in New York. There Tuesday
through Saturday. When I'm there, I'm booked and I book
everyone i can while I'm there.
Speaker 4 (31:35):
In LA, it's Saturday. So yes, all.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Right for your schedule. Yeah, we'll come twelve months from now.
Just let us know whenever you're available. We'll be there
midnight or.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
LA whichever one, you're la. Whatever works for you, Okay,
I'm excited.
Speaker 6 (31:51):
I'll be there the week of Thanksgiving this year it's
your birthday.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Wait, when's your birthday?
Speaker 3 (31:57):
November twenty six, it's the day before Thanksgiving this year.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
My my pups, my twenty two month old pups through
birthday is November twenty fifth.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
They're going to be too, no.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Way, maybe we should just go and do it.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
We should probably do a big birthday celebration together at
the salon.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
We'll do it.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
My sisters is the twenty ninth, so my sister is
twenty ninth. So it's hot weeka birthday week day. I'm
there that Monday through Saturday. I'm there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
and then Saturday.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh all right, okay, all right, so we'll let me know,
let me know for me.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
Yeah, we'll message you. And we love you, Chaz.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Make sure you check out Chasdin dot com for all
his amazing products. You don't want to miss these. They
are changing the world. And Chaz is a beauty skincare icon.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
And we're so excited to have you here today on red.
Thank you so much.
Speaker 6 (32:46):
Thank you, And if they have questions, and Instagram is
chas Deine, I answer my DMS.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yes you do, and when I'm live.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Thank you guys, yes, yes, make sure you check out
his lives very entertaining and the.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
First time we hit you were.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I'm live almost all the time, a lot on TikTok
as long as it's still going.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
And not Instagram for sure, all right, so check them out.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Chastein dot com, Chastin on Instagram, TikTok, and we'll see
you next time.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Thank you for joining us on Red, see you soon, thank.
Speaker 4 (33:15):
You, thank you. Bye.
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