Gangster in Gucci with Dorinda Medley

The one and only Dorinda Medley—Real Housewives icon, author, and ultimate hostess—is bringing her signature wit, charm, and unfiltered honesty to the RED couch. From Blue Stone Manor stories to her iconic one-liners, Dorinda dives into life after reality TV, how she really “makes it nice,” and why embracing your truth at any age is the ultimate glow-up. Don’t miss this unforgettable conversation with a woman who’s not afraid to stir the martini and the conversation.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to rad read as Michelle Barone, your host here
with Ashley McPherson, my co host, and my girl, Jamie Tibridge.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Oh yeah, Jamie, I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
We got Emotional Beauty in the house. Yes we do. Yes,
it's a good day when Jamie's here. Is we're doing
in the Red and that's Jamie's new segment with Red.
She's a licensed therapist and all about female and women's
empowerment through her brand, Emotional Beauty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
So thank you for joining us, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
We're so excited to be here, Jamie. The moment has come.
It has come.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
I have manifested this moment for years. Yes, so we
are so over the top excited to have Dirnda Medley here.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, I'm so happy. You could have just texted me.
I have saved a lot of energy.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
I DM. You know what, Diurnda. We should have DM.
But we're really excited to be connect excited.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
We were afraid you would say who are these girls?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
I don't know these girls? Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
And good news is I was with NBC all they say,
so literally that was only like eight blocks away. And
it's funny how it all worked out.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah, OK, so quickly, Hey guys, before today's episode, I
want to talk to you about something that Ashley and
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Honestly, it's pretty amazing seeing how mental health actually affects people.
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Speaker 1 (02:46):
Oh, Derinda, we want to start right from the top.
You know, how'd you get started in the business getting
on TV? Obviously? You love living New York and just
want to know it all.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Tell us, you know, I didn't really get in the business.
They kind of got into me. You know. I literally
was just friends with all the girls for years.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
I came to New York, god one hundred years ago,
and then I actually left New York for ten years
and I had gotten married to my first husband, and
I lived in Hong Kong and then London, wow for
ten years. Yes, So when I came back to New
York City with my daughter. I was getting divorced, and
I kind of reconnected with all my New York friends,
Ramona and I actually met Ramona, re met her again

(03:28):
when my daughters with the Sacred Heart, and yeah, we
just kind of picked up where we all left off.
You know, we're kind of old New York because we
kind of all know each other and it's we all
were doing the same thing and stuff, and they were
doing the show. I at the time knew about the show,
but it just I couldn't do it. My daughter was
young and I never and I knew her father. When

(03:50):
ALLOWED wanted Hannah to I just didn't think she for me,
it was going to work for my daughter to be
on a show so young, because she couldn't be culpable
for what she was saying. And I was going to
live forever. Wanted her to be a little older, yep,
and you know, be in a situation or where she
could make the decision. But Ramona just kept saying, and
Luanne come on, so I would always be on in
the background. And then yeah, I married Richard and unfortunately

(04:16):
he passed, and Ramona came on and said, can you
in Hannah and went to college, and she said, can't
you finally come on for a year. I said, I'll
come on for a year as a friend, and if
I like it, I'll stay on if I don't, And
it just sort of fell into place there wasn't back then.
It's really interesting though they didn't really go through all
the process they go through now. It was really like

(04:37):
you kind of got a call if they liked you,
They interviewed you one or two times, and you were
on the show. And also too, I knew all the girls,
so it seemed seamless.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it's like you were just friends. It was just
hanging with your girls. Yes, the Ultimate girls.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
And and I'm still hanging with them, so I mean
it's you know, I think that's what made the show
so successful is that they really were were and are
authentic friendships. And you know, we really did have a
lot of We kind of grew up together, you know,
as far as adulthood, growing up an adulthood, because you
kind of grow up in a childhood adult then you

(05:12):
grow up into adulthood. And we just went through a
lot together and I feel like people could relate to us.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It seems so organic back then it was it's very
I think it's very different now and very you know,
it's very different. But when I am an original show
watcher as well, it seems so organic.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
And that's one of.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
My questions for you, was that I admire you so
much because of that. You're so authentic. Yes, and and
always you know they you were chatting before about manifesting
and and for me, the delight and honor in meeting
you is because you are one of the rare that

(05:58):
that just to me radiates your emotions. You you girls,
had your up dramas and your ups and downs, but
even though the public eye was upon you, you embraced
everything you went through and you were not afraid to
show those raw emotions. We don't see that a lot anymore, no,
And I.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Always say that the housewives, the old school housewives were
really are some of the bravest women I know, because
they really were willing to put it out there, and
then you know, they take it, They added it, and
they put it, then they give it to the audience
and then the audience can do whatever they want with it.
Love you hate you learn from it. I have found
that the audience is two things it's very tolerant. It's

(06:40):
very emotional, but it's very forgiving.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, that's good to know. You never know if it's
you're going through it and then all of a sudden
it's like, oh God, did I just like ruin.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
My life out? They know, I think if you know,
and I think at the end of the day, we
you know, I think good women are not good women,
but women that are teachers and people that want to
share their life there are they have to be a
marriage to someone else. And you know, a lot of
times when women sometimes don't like what they're you're saying

(07:09):
or doing, it's because they see a lot of themselves
in you. So you know, and you can be a
teacher through it because you're a little older, you've been
through it, and they walk away from and think, oh, well,
maybe she's right, maybe that was helpful. You know, that's
the truth.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
You know. I never thought about it like that. They're
not seeing the good, they're seeing the bad side of themselves.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, certainly, and we did that, you know, Like I
remember when Carol and I went on that trip to
London and we really talked about for the first time.
We were kind of the first two to ever really
talk about losing our husbands the outpour of women, because
it was a difference for us. It was a very
different situation. You know, we hear widow, we hear people
lose their husbands, but it really is something that's really

(07:49):
been saved for the elder. So did you see two
young women that lost their husbands? Opened up a world
where there are a lot of women in this world
that are young and what do we call those women?
Because you can't call him a widow because that's for
old people. So we kind of redefined what that looked
like for women, and we got so many people reach

(08:10):
out to saying, I'm so happy you talked about this,
because you don't listen when you're eighty eighty five. Not
that you want to go, but you lose a partner.
It's sort of the process of life in society is
very tolerant to that because that's but when you run
into a woman that's forty five forty six and she's
lost her husband, people don't know where to place you,

(08:32):
and it can even make them awkward. I remember one
person said to me once, well, maybe if you're going
to start dating again, don't talk about your dead husband.
And I'm like, well, how do I How do I
do it? Because he was my husband? What do I
talk out? So do I have to lie?

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Do I need to find a man that has a
dead wife?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, yeah, it's far easier for a woman to
talk about divorce and failure and divorce or leaving situation
or non failure but they work and working out or
the traumas and divorce that it is for a woman
to talk about the loss of a husband, and it
makes people awkward.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And You're absolutely right, and I think women do well.
Like you said, you and Carol you connected over the
grief you had. Unfortunately that in common because it was
both tragic for both of you. But I think when
other women look at you and they see listen, she's
been through this, she's grieving, but she's strong, and Carol

(09:31):
is the same way. It gives other women permission to feel,
you know something, I can feel the same way everything.

Speaker 3 (09:40):
Yes, you know, I mean because we come from a
society and I talk about this a lot. Is I
just did the podcast with what was Fonsie's name, Henry Winklin. Ye,
I've watched that, and she does a lot about loss
because her friend the one that is nine or two
and zero is no longer with us. And I just said,

(10:05):
you know, people feel like, I don't know if it's fear,
if it's not understanding. It's like pregnancy. You know you're
pregnant for nine months, but no one really tells you
anything about it. You're like, wait a second, what's that?
You know what I mean, because no one tells you anything.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Grief is like that too.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
You're afraid to tell them. And when you.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Peel it back and you say to people, like some
people you know, be quick to saying, but I'm okay now,
Well you don't have to be okay now. You know,
being okay and moving on are not com mingled. You
can not be okay and still move on and still
moving true. Two things can be true. But I always
say to people, now, it's thirteen years and there's still days.

(10:46):
I know it's somewhere in there. It's smaller. I've grown
bigger around grief. I have made a new life, new friends,
and I'm so blessed for that. But there are still
days where I walk when something happens, something triggers me
and I think, God, I really wish Richard were here.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So I don't think grief ever goes away. It's not
a cut that heels iree with you.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
I always say to people come in for grief, I say,
first of all, there's no right way to grieve. There's
no wrong way to grieve. And you don't get over it.
You get through it.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Otherwise you're racing. I never I'm a beautiful man.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
It hurts. There's no solution. You don't and I used
to lie, not laugh, But I remember when Richard for
you know, because I'm telling you there is a People
are fearful of grief. They don't know what to do
with it. I would walk down Park Avenue sometimes and
people have come up to me and say, how you doing.
I'm like, what, like what? I don't good? I mean

(11:44):
like I don't agree? Are you doing this for you
or me? Because I don't think you really want to
know how I'm doing because I'm doing terrible. I'm not sleeping.
I cry all the time. I can't figure out how
I'm going to go along. And my whole world is
I knew it and had planned on it to be
going forward has dissipated.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, how about you?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
You know what I mean, you know, I don't do
I always say to people when people around you go
through something like that, don't ask those kind of goes,
Just say is there anything I could do for you? Yeah?
You know, is there any Is there any area of
your life you need me right now?

Speaker 1 (12:18):
That's an amazing way to phrase it, and it's an
awesome perspective.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Mental Health America of Dutchess County is a big supporter
of RED. They're a big partner of ours, and grief
is a big piece of what they cope with. You know,
it comes with so many things you just don't think
about till you're in it, right, and when it happens
at a young age, again, you were a young widow,
if you will. I was a young girl when my
father passed away. When things happen when you're young, you

(12:46):
really have you know, what I think it taught me
was a great affinity for life and gratitude. I am
so happy to live every day.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
Because it's a break in the normal timeline. Yes, you know,
it's not supposed to happen. Yeah, and you know we
all think we're gonna leave lift over my mind, who's
sort of like a really wonderful, straightforward. She's the one
I really get most of my sayings from. She made
me laugh so hard the other day because we were
it was actually last summer, we're going by this grave,
and I said, it's so sad all those people. She goes, well,

(13:13):
don't get too sad because we're all going to be
joining them soon. There's a part actually they're all going
to be our friends, so don't feel too sad. And
I thought, it's but that generation is in full acceptance
of the life process, and you know where they are.
I'm not saying they want to die. And I was like, huh,
she's kind of absolutely right. But when it breaks the

(13:34):
timeline and it happens early, I think there's a shift.
There's a rip, like what so you know, no one
knows how to handle it, and no and you don't
know how to handle it. But I do think the
power in grief is that, you know, I always say
to people, cry because it's such a gift to be
so sad over someone, because it meant you love them

(13:57):
so much. You can't cry that much if you didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Love so much.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
What a blessing right that you could love this.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
It's the sacred memory of what you've had with that person,
and you really sacred.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
You start to realize that, like a it's not the end.
Especially you can't be religious or spiritual and think that
they were just a body. Right.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I think I saw some quote that was like like
griefish just like all the love, like you couldn't give
her something like because person passed around, and I was like.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Yeah that we had a woman on the show that
lost her her boyfriend due to cancer, who she was
going to marry at twenty two years old. He's very young,
and oh my god, she's made a whole TikTok a
huge presence because of it, and which is terrible but
it's true.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
But it raised such awareness. I think grief should be
spoken about. It's part of our lives, it is. I
think it should be spoken. I mean when you look
at ancient cultures, they know half the taboos about it.
The way you do. It's very accepted in ancient cultures.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
And corporate you get two days off if your aunt dies.
It's like, Okay, we grew up with this person, they
raised me, and I get two days, right, so it's
like you got to move on. Actually, I just had
a really good friend of mine who you know, actually
her mom committed suicide. She had to go to impatient
ten years later to get the help she needed. She
never grieved, and it builds up and then it could

(15:20):
ruin your life.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Right, Well, then she's gonna have mental illness. Right, So
the cycle keeps going. Yes, everything that I believe that
every day is a teaching tool, and every day is
meant to be, you know, for teaching. I'm a big
woman's advocate myself, and I have a very strong daughter
and a very strong mother, and I just think we

(15:42):
have to keep breaking all these taboos, breaking all these fears,
keep sharing information, which sadly women aren't great at. Yeah,
sadly they've gotten better. And I see in my daughter's
generation they're even more better because they're even more better,
they're even better at it because I think not that
there is a I think women are happily or maybe

(16:06):
my dogs are really realizing and understanding their power and
how powerful a community of women are.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
And I agree. And one of the reasons why I
began emotional Beauty is because I've seen that in so
many women, and I'm seeing it with younger women as well.
Teenagers where they're afraid to step into that empowerment. Sure,
and it's okay, and it's okay. And the more you

(16:38):
surround yourself with women that feel good and love life
and are okay to say, hey today, Michelle, I'm having
a bad day, I'm going to shed some divine tears
and I'm going to plug through it. We have to
learn as women that we can move forward, even if
it's one, one minute at a time, and also share.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
I think we have to as women, surround ourselves right
out of their powerful, worthy women. You know we I
say this generally for people, but I have a daughter,
so for me, it's the voice is always in the.

Speaker 1 (17:15):
Her right right.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
But I read a really interesting study and I believe this.
My mother always said, show me your friends and I'll
show you who you are. She's always said to me,
don't be hanging around with that one. You know what
they say, show me your friends and show me who
you are. And she was always right, Yeah, okay, because
my mother was one of those crazy Italians that said
these things, rolling out something and she was always right.
I think that's not true, and you are you.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Are the party.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
There was a study. I'm really fascinated by all these
neurological studies they're doing now with neuroscientists and stuff, and
now they're relating it to body and health and you know,
the rhythm through your organs. But one of the studies
they just study and I found it so fascinating and
applicable to I said, I told her to my daughter,
I said, so you hang around this. They took a

(18:02):
group of people and they put them around for twenty
five days. They put them around highly intelligent, highly emotionally
connected people. They found that over this twenty five days,
their brain stimulation and base intelligence increased as much as
twelve percent. Wow. They did the same thing with another

(18:22):
group with caustic people, negative people, people that weren't interested
in learning for twenty five days, and the neurological brain
and intelligence decreased as much as thirty three percent.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
So what does that tell you. It's a little bit
like you are what you eat.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
That's right, it's true.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
It's so true. You are who you hang out with,
like it is.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
It is sillin examples you.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
I know, for me, I want to be a magnet,
a healthy magnet for other women. I want to be
and I don't want to. I don't want to pretend
that I've never been through rough times. I want women
to know I've been through those times, and that's where
I've gained a lot of my emotional strength. The same

(19:12):
with you. You've gained some emotional strength with what you've been.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Through, especially with reality TV those toll you. Hello, what
was it like on set?

Speaker 3 (19:22):
I didn't ever find it difficult.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
No, you were just like well, because you did your thing,
you had your sayings right to make it nice.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I just didn't care because I don't really care what
Sally and Cynthia I think. To me, I lived my
authentic life. If you don't like it, don't follow me. Yeah,
you know, I'm not gonna know what I didn't know before.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I'm not gonna know you well.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
And the thing is, I speak my truth. I stand
behind my truth. If I make a mistake, I say
I'm sorry. I don't claim to be perfection. I claim
to be human overall. In the macro, I probably gonna
make it into heaven. You know, SPA probably say that
Michael's it was not great, But on a macro level,
you're lid entry.

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Speaker 1 (22:00):
How do you sleep at night? Like? I'm a people pleaser,
right and well, not a true people please are based
on James definitely, But I love people. I love making
sure everyone's a comedy for and taken care of. And
I like to please other people because it helps me
feel comfortable, not because I'm not because I'm not confident.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
She's very comfid I love myself too, just doesn't want
anyone to ever be mad at her.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Or be upset.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
But I'm like people have to be. But that sometimes
comes at the cost of your discomfort.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
It does.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
And I always say that to a couple of friends.
You know, I had a situation happen the other day
and my friend had been put in the same situation
by the same person, and I am very about just
you know, women get they We've been taught to be
polite our whole life. Yeah, don't be you know, that's
why a lot of kids are targeted to get kidnapped

(22:51):
when they're small, because we teach our kids to be
plate doesn't always work. Sometimes you have to just be truthful.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yeah, you know you would.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
You wouldn't put your hand over a fire and keep
burning it and just keep smiling at someone. You'd say,
my hand is burning, you know what I mean. And
we especially not to make this women focused, but we
as women were really good at keeping her hand over
the fire and letting it burn in that yellow out.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
It's such a great analogy and I needed that today.

Speaker 3 (23:18):
So I'm actually I've gotten most comfortable with it now.
But I'm more comfortable. I'm a I'm someone that wants
to nurture and help people, but I've always been very
good about not doing at the cost of myself. I've
been always very concerned about myself and self serving and
never had a problem about it. But I did that

(23:40):
because I didn't grow up with a lot of resources.
I didn't grow up with a lot of money. I
didn't grow up with a lot of connections. So I
knew that if I didn't consistently and constantly put myself
forward and make the world believe and know that I'm
number one, I was going to end up backing Great Bearrington. Yeah,
and that would have been fine.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
By the way.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
I would have been perfect, happy, married to you know,
the chief police at Great Brainton. But I was thinking
bigger at the time.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Girl, you are speaking. So I live in a small
town of Poughkeepsie. I love all my folks out there.
I did an event called First Frida of Poughkeepsie. We
had three thousand people at ten and I killed myself
to make that town great. And then I realized, like,
I'm so much bigger than this place. I gotta get out.
I am ready. So I'm now I'm forty one, Okay,
I've been doing this for twenty years, twenty years in
this business, going here, doing this, this, manager that, and

(24:29):
I'm finally like, you know what, I'm getting out. I
want to move somewhere. I'm ready. I'm taking my family.
We're doing something different.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
And I've always felt that I've always want to listen
because you know, we have an inner guide that tells us.
And you know, haven't you ever noticed too, especially see
it in a lot of reality starts with people that people.
There's some people that just they walk in and they
let you know who they are. Just sometimes an annoyance,
but somethow you stand up and you pay attention. Especially

(24:57):
I see women and they kind of get what they want.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Yeah, I think the one that they do, they get
what they want.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Usually in relationships in careers, they're not mean, They're just like,
I'm not sure sure. And I've had to master that
a little bit better, you know. And I was going
back to the story with our friend of our room,
and I just when the person started something, I said,
I will not be around a person that in order
for me to respond, I have to change how I

(25:25):
feel about it. You're taking away choices from me, so
therefore I cannot make a good decision. I will only
make a good decision when I am free to make
the choices. This my friend was put in the same
situation and she leaned into it and then followed what
this person needed her to do because she was afraid
to insult him. And then when in the end he
ended up insulting her.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So yeah, and we become resentful, and and we turn
into someone we don't like. That has happened. And I
love your sense of place. Everyone who has a sense
of plays that's not selfish. As a as a therapist,
I have women that come in that will say to me, well,

(26:07):
I'm making changes and I'm putting myself first or a
head of toxic people and weeding my garden, which is
a favorite of mine. And now my family and friends
are angry at me, and they should be because you
are moving yourself away from that and you're having good,

(26:27):
solid boundaries.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Listen with growth, and any time I've had huge amounts
of growth, especially growth that has brought me well both
times when I've had growth that's brought me amazing success
or growth growth where I've had lost, I've lost people
because people don't like to see you get successful. And
then there's and there's also people that when you're down,
they disappear. But those in those moments are the biggest

(26:52):
learning curves, Like, oh, I get it. And when things change,
you know what I'm going to remember because I'm very
Italian like that, because I was slightly vengeful. It is
no totally.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
I mean, it's like when things change around like things
change inside of your things change around you. It's kind
of like that same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It's like always remember you're young. Always remember and you
are too, but always remember. But but but boundaries, Boundaries
are not walls. Boundaries are a healthy part of what
we need, and we need people on the outside of
those boundaries and then we can when when you're my age,

(27:29):
I think Durand and I are around the same age
if we have more years behind us than we do
ahead of us. And for me, it's invitation only. Right
now in my life, I want to live the best
life moving here.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
And I always say to Hannah, you know, plant the
garden you want to grow, and a lot of women
I see it happen. I always say to Hannah, if
you want a steak, order a steak, don't order a
hamburger and then get angry when you get a steak.
If you want a bed of roses, don't. Don't you know,
plant tulips. Ask for what you want, Be clear about

(28:04):
what you want so when you get it, you're not surprised,
because you see it. A lot of times people set
low expectations and then they're angry that they didn't get
the results.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
That is such a great point. And you know, if
you're not into manifestation or that stuff, because that's the
spiritual side of a person. That's a more business side,
a more realistic. I don't know what the right word is,
because I do manifest and believe in that, but that
is it's the same thing, right. You can't have a
false expectation of where you're headed. If you say, well,

(28:36):
like you said that the burger steak analogy is perfect.
You want the filet mignon, get the order it, yeah,
and be done, and you know what, keep you on
the fire to get what you want.

Speaker 3 (28:46):
If you you know, and people will tell you who
they are. They'll take the billboard of bad behavior and
good behavior out pretty quickly. But women will look at
that advertisement and be like, I can change it. Well, man,
I don't know. I'm sure they really not like that.
The board tells you and when you buy the product,
you take it home.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Yeah, it's so true.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
And I also think we have to stop expecting ourselves
from other people. You cannot walk into a bakery and
you know, order a pork chop. It's never going to happen.
When we go into relationships, whether it's friendships or work
relationships or any relationships, we cannot go in and expect
we're going to get who we are because we're completely

(29:26):
different people from that from other people.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Oh, that's right. And I also think, you know, I
don't think it's wrong to you know, listen, my grandmother
would always say to me, it's as easy to fall
in love with the rich man it is to fall
in love with a poor man. Now, obviously that was
the old to time, but I do think there's a world,
you know. I I laugh one days so hard because

(29:49):
my mom used to say to me, because you know,
my mom who never had the opportunity to go to
college college or she was going to go to secretary
of skill, and you end up meeting my father at
eighteen and getting married. So she kind of I was
her grand hope to get out a great brandy, to
make something of yourself. Because my mother is brilliant and
beautiful and happy. But she always says, if I value well,

(30:10):
you know, if I or your father, I would have
been a great secretary probably for IBM. I'm like, but
you married dad, so be happy with that, right, I'm here,
But my mother's like, just remember, if you want to
have but you find an elephant, don't go to the ocean.
That's right. If you want to find it, well, don't
go to the jungle.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Go that's why we're going. Look, I'm learning a lot tonight.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Don't go find the animal, go to the environment where
the animal is. And when you're dating, make sure you
have to figure out what animal you want to marry.
I always thought about that, and Hannah and I left
because it's not even wrong to say. You know, listen,
there are a lot of women out there that are
just opportunists and only want to marry men for superficial
reasons or instance here reasons. But there's also a group

(30:58):
of women I consider my daughter of them that is
brilliantly smart. She's got you know, she's got her a
PhD at Harvard, she's beautiful, she comes from generationally a
good family, she's religious, she's kind. Why can't she choose
in her mind who she thinks is a worthy candidate.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
I think that's fine. You know, I say this to
her all the time. You're beautiful or smart, you have
all these things. And I don't think you should settle.
I think you should find go way high and you'll
and that's the only way you're gonna get someone who's
even worthy at all.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
And think about the children. Yet with that person, I
wanted Hannah's father to be successful and provide a nice
life for her and provide opportunities that I never had
growing up.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
And you know, it's interesting that you say that. I
think it's all about that. Like you know, I think
my friend group is always about like the small town
marrying the chief of police or whatever.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
That which is great, and I would have been very happy,
but I think I wanted more.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
But that was the thing. But I don't think people
resonate to that with me, and it's hard to have
good adult friends because I'm looked at as almost like
I'm foolish, and I'm like, but you guys aren't in
the actual real world. Like I go to the real world.
They don't think I'm crazy. They think I'm normal.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
It teases around yourself, like felt because like you're out
here and we hang out with like our other friends
that like do influencing, are like in the public eye and.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Like it's normal, done it right. And She's like, I
felt that from a small town. But I've made it
big and now You've had lasting impacts on so many women,
you know, through your sayings, through your moments, through your
first girl's trip with your eight besties right on the show.
What were those moments like for you? And what was
your most iconic moment?

Speaker 3 (32:38):
I listen, I loved being on the show. I mean
when they put me on pause, I wasn't one of
these ones that was saying, well this year, I just
think I would take a year off. They had to
get a poker stick and drag me off.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
I mean I shouted it out the wall. They hd PR.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
People call me saying what you're gonna say? Because we're
gonna come back. Is just say that you're taking I'm
like no, I'm like they let me go and.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
That was good, right right, Be honest.

Speaker 3 (33:02):
I'm really upset about it.

Speaker 1 (33:04):
She said she's a real housewife.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
She's gonna be real.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's what happened.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Literally, they were like kids, can'dy created? I'm like no.
And then people say you was some word saying. I
just think you're so thirsty. You only just want to
go back to the show. I'm like, oh no, I'll
be there. I want to go back to the show.
And I mean, I have no problem with that.

Speaker 1 (33:21):
I liked filming. I was good at it. It was fun.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
It was like being back in college. I could be
a commune liver. I mean, I like people.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
You were great because you were real and the stuff
you said had me dying. You had me laughing. You know,
all of your saying it is.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
It's that organic, just authenticity about you that that I'm
not just myself, but other women that would watch the show,
they're like, can I say this? Drinda? Is what I mean?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
You?

Speaker 2 (33:52):
You you just radiate well.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I've always I always say to people, I'm you know,
because I live on the Upper East side and people
always I think I'm this upper eastsider, but because my
I'm Italian and pult, I'm like Gangster and Gucci. You
just scratch the surface. Maybe had something happened the other
day where something happened and I was like, oh, you
don't you really don't want to do that with me,
because although this looks very nice, underneath, can be a

(34:15):
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Speaker 1 (36:23):
But I will say you traders, you know traders, I
know what happened was so well?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Did come on Bob the drag Green Kill?

Speaker 1 (36:30):
How was that though? What was the experience like?

Speaker 3 (36:33):
Amazing?

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
You know, it was incredible to go to Scotland and
I feel so I another one. I cried and cried
because I really was so excited about First of all,
I was kind of excited about dropping out for three weeks.
Like for everyone else, they're like you can't have your phone.
You can't. I was like, that's great, I have an excuse,
le me along.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
Goodbye if Hannah, Hannah, if anything happens, just yeah you
once a week.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
If my calls are for your phone.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
And we're a world and remember when there were no phones,
you survived. Just well, it's just great.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I missed the busy signal, like when you would call
your friends.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
I missed when you got home at night six and
that was it. You didn't you have to anybody till
the next day. Yea, that's your family, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
I think with traders.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
When I watched that and you were the first of.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
All, I was devastating. You know me, I'm like you,
I know, because she's she's intimidating. They're like they're they're
they're getting rid of her because they know, darn well,
she's the one that's gonna make it right through the end.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
So yeah, well I didn't. I got murdered first. I
was done. I was horrified and embarrassed, of course, because
I'm so another thing about it, I'm so competitive. I
just don't lose, you know, losing it's a really you
know hard for me. So I was like what and
you know, I just want and also to I wanted to.
I had so many beautiful clothes. I had so many,

(37:55):
I mean, my outfits. I should just post those because
you should. Yeah, I had all my old Alexander Queen,
my original Vivian Westwood alayah. When I used to go
to his house in Paris and walk up six floors
and get it from him. I broke it all out.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
Oh so there's the first thing I said when she
walked in, like, I want you to style me.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I love your outfit.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
I'm so serious.

Speaker 2 (38:18):
Well, I attacked her right off the bat when she
got off the elevator because it sounds like I was
taking my Sonabella walk because if it wasn't for Derinda,
I would not have.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Had the procedure.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
And it is an amazing procedure, really, and thank you.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I don't have to say sona bello is and I'm
so happy that you did that. I can't wait to
tell everybody. It is amazing. It's it's laser light bo
and it's just for you know. Listen, I just turned sixty.
I'm actually in quite good shape. I work out, I
do the shakes, I take the NAD. I mean I
do it all.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
How is NAD.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
I take it internally and I actually get the shot
as well. I mean I actually get the IV. I
actually moved on to nyasin, which is the stronger version.
But like I take ludethium, I take catam spray. I
if you saw my kitchen, you would think I was
doctor Frankenst. My mother says, you're not gonna live forever.
I'm like, well, I'm going.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
To do my best work to do here.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
Yeah right, just like that too, the only thing I
have to do.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
But so I couldn't get rid of that post bundopausal
little pockets.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
That's how I am, post little blah.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I had like this, so I they you know, I
actually it's a funny story. I didn't wasn't originally in
a collab with him. It's so funny. I had watched
a commercial and though, I see if they have an
office in New York City, and I'm going to book
an appointment.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
So I go.

Speaker 3 (39:44):
I go into Sono Bellow literally on thirty first Street,
and they're like what because I'm like, yeah, mynastera to
med and I want to book an appointment. They're like,
can you please hold.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
That's good.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Did you put it through? I said, oh, I just
got your access to the website. They're like, could you
hold that?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
So then all of a sudden the brand manager gets involved.
They're making calls and then they want to collap with me,
you know, be great. So it actually was a very
much for me, a sincere thing to do. And the
recovery is so easy.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Did you have a scar.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It's a little because it's laser now, there's no more
of that clean take out all the cellulight. It just
takes all that diet resistant fat out and it never
comes back.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
I was amazing.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
I walked in and I said, I want you know
that the con towards your waist. It just I wish
I could do it every year. I could.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I wish I could go in tomorrow after this conversation.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
A whole group of women, and we could do a
so nobella retreat.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
You know, so trimmed up.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
What's to hear the little bits and bobs taking out.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Listen, let's go, I'm in. Let's pitch it to them.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
Yes, absolutely, and we need nurse Betty and Nurse Betty
and doctor doctor Berger.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
He was he's great. I liked that.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
I busted.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
He has an office right here on Park Avenue.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
I did not know that. I just can't.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
You know, how do you know the difference, though sona
Bella or to me talk like, oh you know the difference, Well,
well they look at it and how much weight. I mean,
for me, it was just a matter of triaking some
like little bit that I couldn't get rid of. I
did the likelifts, the bands, the pilates, the pounding this,

(41:36):
and I just was like it was just so they
just they only took out I think about three pounds
two and a half pounds, but it was all in
these crucial areas. Yeah, and it was really just diet
resisted fat that I couldn't. And I'm not going to
lie to you. At Booster confidence, your clothes feel better.
I was even thinking. I was just in Jamaica. I
had put on a my ba. I thought, I don't.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Feel like like we died anything, and that's great, and
like that You're that's like for benefit for your mental
health too.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I was like, because always after my post maps, I
had just a little satele bags and I'm like, yuck,
you know what I mean? No matter what I.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
Do, right, and I'm sure it looks fine, but you
still want to feel confident in your own body.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
I put on my little airs babies, and I was like,
you girl, you don't even really need a cover up,
you know you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Yeah, so you when you go, you get the durndim
med least.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Be Yes, they treat you like you want to go
just tell me and I want.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
To go, go and let's do it. Do it all.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Oh, I'm so so thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (42:38):
And I don't do a lot of collapse because I
do the ones I really believe it.

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Yeah, that's what makes it better collapse.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
So, like I say the same thing when I do claps,
I'm like, I will only do something I believe in
because if not, like it's.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Not open up someone's Instagram.

Speaker 4 (42:52):
No, and you don't want to see a million ads
and say, hey, you're just trying to sell me on something.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Yeah, I get it. It's something you really feel, right,
exactly I do.

Speaker 3 (43:00):
I told them the other day, Rachel I said, I
want to do like a Instagram live on their web page. Shit,
women can come and ask me any question they want.
You should kill them.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
Honestly, that would be like great marketing for them too, though,
because like people want like a customer asking the.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
Question, I'll tell you, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
They want the answers. I I have one question, ask
how do they tighten the skin without like while doing
like what doesn't it?

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Well?

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Just it's different, I said. I didn't have skin tightening.
I just had these fat pockets taken out.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
So I mention, what happens when the fat pockets out?
Does it deflate?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Mine?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Did?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I mean I didn't have so much. I just had
little bits. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
I think it depends like going in with the surgeon
too and having them like decide.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yes, it depends what you need. I mean they had
an abex which was the three parter, and they took
the skin and then they were kind enough to take
a picture of it and show it to me. I
feel great. I feel I love to wonder.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
What are you like?

Speaker 3 (44:01):
A week out right? Now?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Today is two weeks?

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Two weeks today?

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Oh well, let's put it this way. I had my
DOUN on a Thursday. I was back in my apartment.
I was back. I checked myself at the hotel, which
I didn't really need to do, but I was like, Mona,
let's just go to the into the palace. Let's treat
it as And we got there at like three thirty.
I took a nap till six, and then I went
out and had dinner. I didn't wow, yeah right, I
have wine.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
But we went.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I walked dinner and the next morning I got up
and took a walk in the park. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Two weeks for me. Wow. Two weeks and I'm parading
around Like I said, I was in the hallway.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Do wear the body suit? For right?

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I called the super suit?

Speaker 3 (44:39):
I love that? Are you I still wear mine? I'm like,
I don't have to wear it any It's I like
anything that sections.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
You in and if you're free, they're all they give it. Well,
I'm sure you know in the end you're paying for
but they ordered me a a another one.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
I call it my super suit.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
You literally I love that. To get in that thing
is like another level. But once you're you're ready to go.

Speaker 4 (45:05):
That's how I feel about this bodysuit I got on
TikTok shop.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
It's so small.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
My mom got it first off, she got a medium.
It is literally looks like a child's extra extra small.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
I do not know you my gosh so much for
coming on.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
If you were to give advice to anyone looking to
get into reality TV, what.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Would it be, Well, I think what I would say
to them be ready, because once you're it changes your
life forever. There is no going back. So make sure
you really want to do it and you have that
you don't have a lot of any Every skeleton in
your closet will come out. You got to make sure
your family is on board with it because their life's

(45:51):
changed drastically, and that if you're going to go on,
you really have to understand that it's out of your control.
You can't really control it. I mean you can't to
a point, but it's given to a lot of hands
touch it, and the time people see it, it's really
out of your control. So if you want to get
into it, I guess I don't know. I think you

(46:11):
just have to be an interesting person and pitched and networks.
I guess yep. But it is a lifestyle change. You
will never once out. Once that Pandora is out of
the box, it doesn't go back in.

Speaker 1 (46:24):
That's that's great to know. Well, thank you so much
rend but it's a huge opportunity. Friend, it is it is.
Check it out and Torender. Where can people find you online?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Well at Instagram to rindom Medley, at TikTok to random
Medley and why see Facebook to rindom Medley and they
can catch me on Serious XM four days a week
Radio Andy at four o'clock. Yes, and then you know,
hopefully God knows anywhere else. Pull me up on peacock.
I'm going to live there forever.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
I love you, We too love you, and I want
to thank you so much for just radiating your emotional beauty.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
I thank you and Janie. Where can people find your online?

Speaker 2 (47:06):
You can find me on Instagram, Emotional Underscore, Beauty Underscore, Facebook, TikTok,
and my website which is your Emotional Beauty dot com.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
You can check me out of a Shell Brown online
on Instagram, TikTok, and Mishelle baron online dot com.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
And you guys can find me at ashmra Ferson two
HS on all socials and you can find our podcast
at Michelle bron Rad on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
We'll see you next time. Bye,