In Our RED Era

In this episode of RED, Michelle Barone and Ashleigh McPherson sit down for a candid catch-up on how far the podcast has come—from its humble beginnings to star-studded red carpets. They’re joined by their favorite girl, Gabby Ferrone, the behind-the-scenes MVP who helps bring it all to life. Expect behind-the-scenes tea, favorite celeb moments, travel stories, laughs, and a whole lot of love for the RED team. This one’s a feel-good celebration of growth, gratitude, and girl power.
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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Arid read as Michelle Broone. What's up, ash
what's up?

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Seeds? That's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:04):
You know?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Zeed's okay.

Speaker 4 (00:06):
She for the longest time while filming, she never let
me call her Zeeds, And I'm like, you wonder why
people don't know that we're aunt Anie.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
You call your first.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Name, I mean, you could do it.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
We say Zeeds. It's supposed to be Zia. We don't do.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Anything right, Ye, we don't do zeo. We do z
z yeah sometimes zs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
We got nicknames for our nicknames.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Yeah, we do. Hey, guys, before today's episode, I want
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Speaker 4 (00:57):
Honestly, it's pretty amazing seeing how mental health actually affects people.
I mean, the guests that we've had on the show,
we've talked about mental health in almost every episode and
it's a serious topic.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
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Speaker 1 (02:03):
I know we talked like in our last episode about
being Italian, and I just feel like it's still so
relevant for us.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Oh, definitely right.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I mean, I feel like you've been fitting in a
lot with like, oh, we've had a lot of housewives
on recently, we've had a lot of Jersey housewives on,
and I feel like we've gone along pretty well with
them because they're us, Like we're hanging out with our family.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah. I mean, I have to tell you, just being
ingrained in the community like we are, I feel like
it's home. Yeah. Everyone keeps asking me, So, what's it
like hanging out with the housewives, and I'm like, it's
like being home with none.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
No, it's like can hang out with you, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Fun. And the family's so good too, Like there's so
many good families. And I love the way these kids are.
They're so nice and kind. Like our kids are loving too,
you know, and our family always hugging and kissing in
But it's rare. I'm realizing as I grow up that's
not as normal. Yeah, and that it is special.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
I know, you go to people. We got to be like,
oh we're huggers.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
I love people.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Now you love people, know, and they're like, oh, you're
a hugger. I'm like yeah, Like if you don't hug me,
I get offended.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
And then she thinks hate her. It's like, oh, they don't.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Like me, and she's like, no, they just don't want
to hug you, like they've known you for thirty years.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
The amount of times that I hear, Oh my god,
they hate me, Like who cares if they?

Speaker 2 (03:14):
First of all, it's like, well they don't.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
I know. I know, I'm too I'm too much, but
I will tell you. You know, we have done a lot
in the past two years together. It has been quite
a two years.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I feel like every everything changed from when we first started.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean we first started. I brought you in
on the show to in our studio at iHeart in Poughkeepsie,
New York, and I had a little surprise. She was
my first episode I brought in. You got to listen
to it if you haven't, because it's so funny, unreal.
I brought in this guy who she used to date, who.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
I did not. I did not date him. First of all,
he gave you mine. I didn't date him.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
She wanted me to, and I would not date him.
She tried for literally years her and all of her
friends to set me up. No, like nice boy. He
was great, but was not the one for me. So
she literally came in. I did a whole podcast episode,
she interviews me, and at the end we did a
game which was build build your boyfriend or something, and
I like picked all the qualities I like, and.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I liked kiff muscles, arm muscles, you like, tall, dark, cancer,
all this, and I said, well, I got a guy
for you.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
I thought she was kidding. She wasn't.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
I literally turned around. He's walking in the room and
I was like, this is so awkward. I was gonna
ghosted him like six months ago, and now we're like
literally being filmed and this is being like put all
over the radio stations, all over town, everywhere.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So that was a tough one. But I feel like
I've I've bounced back from that. Oh I think I
have enough now that people won't look at that one.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Maybe so Number one by the way, featuring Ashley, we
fiers some content content here, but we had a really
really great time. So since then you became co host,
we were doing everything together, content, working together in the
marketing agency, and it is crazy. I mean there's some
days where it's like, oh, there's just so much to do,

(05:04):
and then there's days we're like, oh my god, we're
doing Yeah. Yeah, it's like this crazy roller coaster. But
that's entrepreneurship and that's what we're doing here.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
I know. I feel like when we started and I
was first on that first episode, I didn't even do
any interviewing ever, Like I was not I had never
interviewed anyone. And I'm like, yeah, my aunt's like going
and like starting this podcast, and then like I started
co hosting.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
With her, and like, now we're here. We've been to
super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
We've been to You've been to the Grammys Fashion Weeks,
been to several fashion weeks.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Yeah, art based a lot. I mean, the show was iconic.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
Yeah, super Bowl's really fun. We had that trip. I
feel like we could do a whole episode just on
that trip. There was so much that happened.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
There was and this like, now you're going on a
really exciting trip to Miami, and the trip is going
to be amazing because you get to host and there's
so many people going to this event. Why don't you
talk to her?

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Yeah, I'm really excited. So by the time this episode
comes out. I'll probably already be done with the trip.
But I'm going out to Miami in a few.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Weeks to go and host an award show, which.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Is I don't know, you guys have to look at
my Instagram. I swear to god, I know what it is,
but it's really early right now.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
But it's a whole bunch of.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Different like beauty influencers, big beauty brands, and I'm gonna
go and host a red carpet, so that'll be really fun.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
This is gonna be my second time going out to
Miami for.

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Events all on my own. Last year, she flew me
out and I missed my flight.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
That was so bad.

Speaker 4 (06:24):
I was waiting for the shuttle at the hotel and
I was like looking, I see my flight boarding and
waiting the shuttles and coming for twenty more minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I was like, this is a nightmare.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
And like she called it like she's always like she
was always like, oh, like ash, she's gonna be like ash,
she's gonna be.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Late, and I was like just another thing she could
bring up later, I know, but you I did it.
I got I got on the next flight and I
got out there.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
But that was like, you know, a really big adult
thing to do, so I was excited for you. Anyways,
So you get to Miami and you're gonna be hosting
all these amazing red carpets. The one that you're doing
is awesome. There's some really big people coming, so.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
Yeah, I saw I think Patrick Taws going on Astasia Beauty.
So there's gonna be a lot of really big brands
that I loved their products, so it'll be cool to
meet the founders and meet everyone from their teens.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Absolutely, And then we went to a big beauty show
in New York City and that was so great.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh my god, it was so cool.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
We met like five hundred of the best brands.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
Oh yeah, Oh my god. And the goodie bags that
we left there were amazing. I'm like still using the products, like,
I've found some of my favorite products from that event.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Me too. Catherine and Gavia our friends were there, love them,
and so many other amazing influential people. And I just
have to say, like, we have built such a great
network of strong women. And when we started developing this
show seven years ago, it was actually first called Woman
Up because.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Oh my god, I have the notesless for it of
all of our old podcast ideas.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
We were sitting around my best friend's table in her
kitchen and she had like this big round table that
had ten seats around it, and I was like dying
to get her on with us too because they're yeah,
and she was like, no, I don't really want to
do it, and I was like, come on, like, you
gotta do this with us. Two years we went back

(08:09):
and forth and had weekly meetings because we wanted to
be like women's empowerment and be fun, but we didn't
want it to be like two women focused. But honestly,
I think we hit it on the head. Red is awesome.
We do feature a lot of women, but we feature
everyone and we have so much fun. I just can't
believe from all those days I know so today how

(08:29):
it's like really evolved and real.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
It's pretty crazy, like thinking like for so long we're like,
oh my god, I want to do this podcast. I
want to do this podcast. Now we're with iHeart of
the Hudson Valley, like so full circle. We're in the
city filming monthly, like we're meeting the coolest people. We're
meeting people that like we watch on TV. And now
we're like befriending them.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
It's so cool. It is cool. But you know what,
everything comes right because of hard work. We work day
and night to just get out there meet people, and
we do the right thing every time. And I think
that's so important. I've been in business for twenty five
years and built a reputation and I've always done the
right thing, whether I have to take it on the
chin or not, I'm always the one to do the

(09:07):
right thing. And I think it pays off over time.
And I don't do it because I wanted to pay off.
I do it because I genuinely have it in my heart. Yeah,
to a fault.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
She's not kidding to a fall too nice. Sometimes it
might might.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
You know, kind of get her, and it does.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
But she likes people too much.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I like people too much. But I've learned to put
some boundaries in. Now you're doing doing better.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
It's like I'm teaching her a little Yeah you are.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
I just I was always like a free for all
and like, all right, you can walk all over me,
sure you want everyone. I know, here's my rolodex. Now
it's like, you know, like I've earned this and I
had to get to a place where I understood the
value of what I've built.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I mean, you've been doing this for how long?

Speaker 1 (09:52):
I've been on the grind for this business for a
long time. I'd say, between this and marketing for like
twenty years. I had a four or five year break
there while I was at the bank. Yeah, but I
was still out there. We had a show at the bank.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Yeah, Oh my gosh, yeah, she had. She had a
morning show. I remember.

Speaker 4 (10:08):
I'd watch it when I was in high school in
study hall. She'd be going live on Facebook and I'd
watch it, you know. Oh yeah, I was in high school.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I might have. I might have been in middle school.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Yeah, well look at us.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Now that's it baby. Yeah, and now you're like a
mini better version. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So now Luca's going to middle school.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Luca's gonna go to middle school. And he loves this
business too.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Oh yeah, we got to get him in here. Luca.
If you guys don't know, is her ten year old son.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
He should have came today. He's home from school.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Are you serious?

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Well, he has strap.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
But then he would have got everyone whatever, put him
on a train to get him down here, get him
down here.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But he he could have went to school, you know,
He's like, please, I don't feel good. I'm like, you
don't have a fever, you don't have a cooth, your
throat's not even ready've been on a box for three days.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
Sure, it's so funny you say that because when you
were in La last week. I'm sitting I'm at the
house and CD Juanna's babysitting the kids and she's like, oh,
like Luca came home from school and said like his
arm hurt or something. And then she was like, later
on he said his stomach hurt. She goes, he's totally
building it up.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
To be sick to school tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
So I go to Luca and I'm like, Luca, like,
are you go? I go between you and I go,
are you pretending to be sick right now?

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Like?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Are you building it up? And he's like, no, I'm not,
I'm not. And I could see him like breaking to
admit it to me that he is.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
It was so funny.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
He's so cute, it's so funny. He's I feel like
there's so many parts.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Of him that I'm like, are made.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
I'm like I did that and he's like literally the
best he is. I mean, he's such a good personality.
He's wears his hard in his sleeve and he's so
great and we got to get him out more in
the car shows.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
We really should be interviewing him. I would love to
do an interview with Luca. I feel like Luca could talk.
Oh he can I bring Luca with my friend's hangout
all the time. He's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
Was on a call and I'm, you know, like driving
on Bluetooth in my car and he's like, Mom, do
you like realize that I'm here because I'm trying to
talk to you? And I was like, if I hear
that one more time between Ashley, my mother, my husband, Yes,
I hear your role here, but I am on the phone.
I'm trying to do it all, Okay.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
I mean I feel like if all of us are saying.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
It, I know I might listen. It's really hard to
do be the jack of all trades, so you need
like ten days in one I do. I do a
lot in a day. So but what I think I've
really decided to do is hone in on finding the
right help and someone that I'm working with now Tony,
who's now my manager, is one of the most incredible, selfless,

(12:34):
amazing men. He knows so many people, and forget his network,
forget his work ethic, He's just like us.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
He sees his things the way we do, where eye
to eye, he sees the value in us. And he's
really really working hard to take us to new heights
and structure our business too.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
I feel like every time, like we have a conversation
with him on the phone or sitting, we're just like
he gets it, and like we were like on like
a really good routine and like we're getting everything figured and.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
We're just gonna keep growing, keep growing that he's a
part of the team now me too, and we have
other new publicists that are awesome. The team just keeps growing,
and I think that helps with like, you know, getting
more exposure, getting on the red carpets. That's a big
piece of what we do and that no one talks about.
You know, when you get asked to go on a
red carpet, it's a huge deal. And when you get
asked to do it ten times a month and then

(13:20):
be featured on it, and it's even bigger. And as
you continue to grow, you know, it's limitless. It's like, well,
what am I going to wear? This time to be
different and what's going to be my thing? Yeah, it's
all those marketing things that make you you and then
just keep expanding the team. You know. One thing in
this industry I've learned over the last few years is

(13:41):
people want to hold on tight when they have something good.
And I've been there too. But I also feel like
you can't grow without growing with people because everyone has
a different perspective. So it's like, well, you know, you
bring in a stylist and they're like, well, I don't
want another stylist, but you're like, well, I'm not firing you.
I want both of them, right, because I think you
both have different views on things.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Right, people have different like skills, and like you can
use both of them and have both of them exactly.
I think that's like a big thing with like ego
and like job security though that like people like don't
want to feel threatened and like when they do, I
think that kind of shows who the person is though,
with like how they react to like what's being presented
in front of them. You know, like if you have
two stylists, and a stylist as like I don't want
to work with you because like you're not going to

(14:22):
use me as much. It's like, okay, well, like you
don't want to work with me that exactly.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Like the only way to grow is to grow your
team as well. Absolutely yeah, and to have ten stylists
at some point and ten pr people like you have
to get to a place where you know you're utilizing
everyone for their best, you know they're giving for whatever
their best at.

Speaker 4 (14:43):
Absolutely And I think that comes a lot with like
being in the industry more. I feel like we've been
in We haven't been in the industry as long as
a lot of people have, but we've been here long
enough to kind of see who works and who doesn't
with our team, and when we find a good person,
we keep them and we have our team forever. Like
Gabby's on our team, and Gabby's never leaving us all
the time.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Gabby, she's not all she wants four or five or
ten kids, but she's like, I want to get married,
and I'm always like, Ashley, I have a guy for you.
Gabby's like, what about me, can't because you'll leave And
I'm like, well, you'll have kids and be a housewife,
Like I need you for me. You can't leave us
for me? And ash but face so like, you just
gotta find her. She'll stick through it, she'll work from home.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You got to tricker into it.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Yeah, somehow we'll like we'll like maybe like maybe Redd
will pay for her nanny or so. Yeah, and she
could just come one.

Speaker 2 (15:29):
Will still wedding in November.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Guys, just if what's interested in case, like for a
wedding day, we should interview her.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
We should. I'm savvy, you know what. I'm so serious.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Let's go, Gab, Gabby? Can you come over here? Oh?

Speaker 4 (15:44):
Great and found the groom yet?

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Come on? Come on, Gab? You want to go on? Yeah,
let's go get on with us, Gabby, Come.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
On, Gabby.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
We've been waiting to do this before. Gaviy. She loves
being on camera.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
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(16:24):
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Speaker 1 (16:54):
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Speaker 2 (17:02):
Have you seen how my skin has been glowing lately?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I'm stopping. I mean seriously, Pixie Beauty products are for
every day and they are the best. I love the
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Speaker 2 (17:13):
I love that product.

Speaker 4 (17:14):
I use it every day before I do my skincare,
and honestly, it's like Braden's my face.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I want to say yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
I mean, a guest commented today on how beautiful you
looked and that you were dewey and glowy, and it's
all because of Pixie.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Honestly, Pixie products just know how to make you feel
beautiful in your own skin.

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My favorite is the Pixie on the glow blush. It
is so much fun. You can just stick it right on,
take it out. It's just one of my favorites. It's
so much fun and it looks so good on.

Speaker 2 (17:38):
Honestly, it gives you like a nice sunkiss glow. I
absolutely love it and it's gonna be great for summer.

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Speaker 1 (17:48):
So this is Gabbyfaron. Our last name is Rhyme Feron,
Baron and McPherson.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
But okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
I try so, Gabby, what is it like working with us?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
What was your morning?

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Like?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Be real, be real, It's painful, it's bullal.

Speaker 6 (18:09):
My morning was rough.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I got woken up at five am saying, Gabby, can
you please drive forty five minutes to go pick up
a book?

Speaker 6 (18:15):
And I said, I called. Actually, I said, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Doing that, And then I talked to Gabby and I talked.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
To my dad and he's like he's like, well, actually,
like out of everybody, you you are like the closest
to go pick it up. And I'm like are you
on my side or are you like you did it?

Speaker 4 (18:30):
Oh yeah, sure yeah if haar and makeup didn't, if
we know I'm not the driver.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
In the.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
If we asked to Ashley do it would have been.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
That's that's literally what I said. Gavvy's like, if Michelle's runing,
label you gebby tomorrow morning. I'm like, if she's running, like,
I'm definitely running.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Like when Michelle's running, like Ashley's texting me being like good,
she doesn't know that I'm running.

Speaker 6 (18:49):
It Like it's like it's like wrangling to people.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'll call you in the car. I'm like, actually, don't.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yeah, She's like, don't, like unless you know him on
the road, don't call because I don't want her to know.

Speaker 6 (18:59):
But you ually Michelle's late too, so actually.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
It's I'm always sitting.

Speaker 6 (19:04):
There waiting ready.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
But I'm not usually late for things like like picking
me up always yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
Every time.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
I like I've learned to like always like instead of
like always be at least a half hour, Like I
don't even get dressed until like I know she's on
the way, but it's the day. It's never on the way.
When she says she's on.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
The today that I'm like, oh, I could be a
half an hour late that she's on it.

Speaker 6 (19:25):
It's always and I don't usually she has to pick
me up.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
So it works because I don't like to drive.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
It works a lot better when we had your location
because we could figure out where turn it off. I don't.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
You turn it off because you're scared people are gonna
find you, but like we're the ones that are trying.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
To find you.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
We're trying to find.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
I share it sometimes for an hour and then I
get freaked out.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
No, okay, don't because you really help any of my
friends because I know I track them at all.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
Oh my god, I have like like a roster of
my friends like into you.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
I don't feel like that's like a privacy.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Now, Like what am I doing that I need to hide?

Speaker 3 (19:59):
Right?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
What am I?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Like did I go on a date or something? I
turned it off?

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Right?

Speaker 2 (20:02):
You could turn it off? Like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
To think about doing turn it on and off?

Speaker 2 (20:07):
Well, okay, like I mean it's not like rarely turn
it off.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
I'm like, let if me and Danny go to Giggles.

Speaker 4 (20:13):
I mean you guys can go to Giggles. Yeah, I
turn it off like I got three.

Speaker 3 (20:18):
Like when Ashley was going on a date or something,
I'm terrified that she's just going to show up, so
I turn it off because she would.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
You would, I would, she would. Me and Jamie talked
about it.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
Me and Jamie wanted to get a table next to
my Miami.

Speaker 6 (20:33):
You didn't include me, Well, he knows, Michelle.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Knows, Michelle Barrown.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He doesn't get.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
They always know you because I posted me like my
Instagram stories me and Ashley the cover actually like tags
me and her stories and I reshare them.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
So all right, it's really painful to work with us.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, I listen, don't put me a part of that.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, I said us, Yeah, I know us.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
But listen, she'd still pick every hotel with me over
you know what, Well, that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
No, me and Gabby.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Early and then you wake up early, like we we
go out at like seven thirty.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Yeah, complete your time when we're in LA. That's so true.

Speaker 6 (21:13):
That's so true.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
Just like guys, we gotta we gotta, we gotta make
sure all of our work is sense. We have to
wake up New York time.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
And it's like okay, But we were just like out
like until three am, yes, and like now because because.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
We work with we work like doing events and stuff
till probably like ten eleven even a little later, and
then like we would like to do something fun. So
we dropped my shelf off at the hotel and then
we go out.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
And Gabby like to make it a point that every
single trip.

Speaker 6 (21:37):
We have to go at least one time.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
The worst when we went to.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
La for Vcon and remember the manager of the hotel
he kept saying, like every night we'd be like, we're
going to go out tonight and like the last day
we were like, we're going out Tonight's our last night.
He goes, yeah, I'll wait in an hour. You're gonna
come down in your pajamas and sit in the lobby
for an hour because everything because we get so tired
because we're absolutely.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
What we did up going out with the makeshift pod. Yes,
we had a podcast withe that you guys have to
watch this.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
It was really with Brian, with Brian and a few
of his friends and we went to some bar.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
It was like it was like the like the like
the club like they attached the hotel.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh my god, it was so weird.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
There was like a boxing ring like above, like the
blood dropped us off.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Time.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Shout out to Gloves. I love Glo. Gloria comes with
us to every trip and she like helps and she
literally donates her time to come hang out with me
and get get our clothes, like.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
The like hotel he stayed at that trip. Actually she
literally like our hotel was. It was the smallest hotel
I've ever been this small five days the three of
us and like literally you couldn't walk around the bed.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
It was the hotels were built like their original branding
was from New York, so like the hotels were built.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
To be really small, stupid function because that's the event.

Speaker 3 (23:01):
That was like our room and we were like it's
gonna be horrible, but like we're gonna make it work.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
And Glow comes in.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
She's like, you three can't live in this, and she
switched rooms with us, so we got like the biggest room.
It was one of the biggest hotels I've ever been in.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Like Glow always saves the day.

Speaker 4 (23:14):
One time, Michelle and my uncle Danny had a flight
back to New York. Me and Gebby didn't have our flights,
but yet we had flights the next day.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Dy Michelle fell asleep in the car and Danny dropped
us off and it was like, girls, get out of
the road.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
But there was a homeless man walking and.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Then there's a side going up and down the road.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
There was somebody chasing and I was like, well, I
feel like in the middle of the road at least
there's like a light that we can see who's coming
up behind us. And Danny's yelling at us. Michelle's asleep,
has no idea, and we have no hotel.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
In La in La after filming that was our first film.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
Yeah, yeah, and then we ended up not getting a
flight out to the next morning, so Glow ended up
getting all of our stuff while we were filming, brought
it to a new hotel.

Speaker 6 (23:51):
She room for us. Otherwise you would have been sleeping
on the.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Street doing this.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Thank God, for sure.

Speaker 6 (23:56):
Yeah, I highly teed that she did.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Like the girls.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
The thing is like, once Michelle leaves us, she will
not text us like if we we get on all
the time like she does.

Speaker 6 (24:07):
Never like did you make it safe? Like never not.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
She just expected to see us at the office.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
It's like, you girls aren't coming in. I'm like, we're
still at the airport. Were waiting for you to come
pick us up.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
We have a layover.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
I'm like, oh my god, I'm looking at flights for
me and Gabby to go to Vegas in a few months.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
We almost had to do a layover in Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
You know, Michelle goes like, what's the best one you
get and actually goes this one. It's gonna take us
three days to get there. We have to say two
nights in Boston. But I think we can make it work.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
And Michelle's like, but.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Like, do you think like the hotel is going to
be a lot? Like do you think you guys could
do your posts from there?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Or it's like, is there gonna be wi fi? Like
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
Guys like I just like, only if only, if you
could get your work done. You know.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
What actually happened was no layover. Let's filter it better
and that when she was on our side. Now when
she always on your side, you I feel.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Like, it's uh, all right?

Speaker 4 (25:01):
What was your favorite trip with Gaby and I?

Speaker 1 (25:04):
I love super Bowl? You know what? I love it
because you guys didn't know Glow yet, so you Glow came.
Glow has been coming with me for years. Blow has
been my staple for all that became.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
I really want to be Like.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
So Glow meets me at the airport and she's like,
let's go. You guys have no idea who she is,
what she's doing. You're like, why is this random woman
taking over Michelle's schedule.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
She's taken all of our stuff, just dragging us at
the airport.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're like, is she with us?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
That happens like people do.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Just literally, I was on my way to the studio
today and homeless guy cleaned my windshield, Like this stuff
happens every day, don't swear.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
Oh my god, But so how do you know it
was homeless?

Speaker 2 (25:49):
He said it? Design said it.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
I didn't have any cash either, so I was like, wait,
so wait, okay, so we might go out the airport.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
He said it, poor guy. We got to get him
so something.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
She's fun.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
I'm gonnaive him a nice tip, you know. I feel
bad for the guy. So anyway, no, So, so, so
back to Glow. So Glow comes with us on every
trip and she just kind of organizes the schedule, make
sure we're there. Things happen quick. So it's like you
get there and then you're at an event. Then you're
getting your hair and makeup done and changing your outfit.
Then you're at another event and doing that five times

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a day between carpets, and we're carpet hopping, especially so Glow,
we'll manage the schedule, do a recap, do all the
connections between each event, like any ride, any like. She
just manages, you know, shopping if we need clothes, like
if we're not like if we didn't come with the
right if we find out something like, oh, well, this
happens to be a white party, Okay, great, we've brought

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nothing white.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
She's the one, like we're on hair and makeup. She's bringing.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
In the morning in bed wait.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
That hotel that we're just talking about, the had the
best smoothies every single morning. I had that like like
peanut butter, blueberry.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
That was that match were talking about.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Fo Yeah, but I will tell you shout out a
Moxie Hotel for their smoothies.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yea, so good. And I just want to say, Glow,
you've been with me forever. I love your daughter. She's
a star. I love she's a star. And Junior has
been with me. I met them in kans France at
my first event ever. Yeah, and he's he was a
road manager for Pipule and he really helped me throughout
this whole entertainment thing.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
I have to say too, like.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
That super Bowl was the trip we met them, and
like the last night, sure enough, we were like we're
gonna do this. We're gonna go downstairs. We were in
Vegas for five days. We were like, we have to
like gamble once. We still We've been to Vegas twice.
I've never hadn't, but I got Danny to do the slots,
so I felt like that was me.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
It was his money, which it was always better. Better
dollars are always better than Danny's.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
But we went down like Glow called us.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
We met her at like the bar, the casino, and
then like Junior came down and head. We talked to
them for three hours. He literally they convinced us to
like stay an extra day because we weren't going to
make it were it wasn't on a flight like crying.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
We were like day we're at the farm. We're so sad.

Speaker 4 (28:07):
We're like like we came all the way down to
super Bowl, like we're gonna miss Superowl.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Because there was a big snowstorm in New York.

Speaker 4 (28:11):
So we just switch our flights and then glows like
absolutely not, like we're making this work, looks up a
whole new flight, figures it out, sends it to ZZ.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
She's like, we're gonna figure this out in the morning.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
He's like five am. We're like, please, Michelle, please let
us stay. We're like begging, were at all work? Okay,
like do this and we did. We say that we
made it to the Margariteville, which probably wasn't the best
idea for a because I don't.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Remember leaving the Margaritaville.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
But I had a blast.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
No, No, we had a blast, And all I know is.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
No, the thing that's what you hated is what happens
like first of all, when we go on trips, like
like my company's going together. But then like also like
I also think like actually we were drinking and like
who doesn't like to cause a.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Little drama, And me and Gabby are like sister, so
like we hang out more than we're probably hang out
with our siblings. Now.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
The funny thing is I think you like that is
when you're like, oh, they fought like the time went
to La the.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Next time we actually fought worse. I didn't talk for
two days.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
But like when we went we were at the Margueriteville,
like everybody was like, the girls are fighting, and it's
like no.

Speaker 2 (29:12):
We literally start giggling. Bathroom crash.

Speaker 3 (29:16):
Ashley comes over and she goes, Danny thinks, I'm mad
at you, and I go, that's horrible. And she goes
over to Danny she goes, why would you say that
about my best friend?

Speaker 6 (29:25):
I love her? And and he's like, I don't know.
You guys were fighting.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
It's like like, of course we're fighting. Like we've been
together for six days.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
You guys have was locked in one hotel room and
we have not had two settings.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
And at that point nobody has seen our hotel room.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
No, oh my god, that was bad. Our room was bad.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
What happened.

Speaker 6 (29:42):
It's because what happened in our room.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Every room is always the hangout.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
Yeah, all the and.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
We're also the only people that like, we have to
get ready ourselves and we have everything, right, we have
another room to get her hair and makeup done, and
she doesn't even have great and.

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Then they passed up. Right, somebody she brings up.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Her clothes like nothing happens.

Speaker 4 (30:01):
In her room, like right, literally, but I loved that,
but our room, like it just gets messy because we're
going from event to event.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Like super Bowl, we had like five events a day, which.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Happens for everything was horrible in a good way, but
it was just like, oh, oh my.

Speaker 6 (30:13):
God, it was messy, hard.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
It was so draining.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
You're doing it in one event.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
In one event we did seventy interviews and one of
the parties that was like over one hundred interviews in
one day.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
It was insane.

Speaker 4 (30:24):
The first time I had to interview you were at
another event interviewing and Gab is like, all right, Ash,
like you ready, you're gonna go? And I was like,
oh yeah, like totally, like she would ever now make it.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
I still thought I was kidding.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
I was like, no, like, you're doing it.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
Michelle's not here standing here.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
She handed me mike. She's like all right ready, and
I was like, I thought you were kid.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Well when I looked at her, I was like, to remember,
it's just you and me, and she's like, okay, I
can do.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
This shaking full body shaking. I'm like internally shaking. I
did not know what to do. I was like, what
am I even supposed to ask people?

Speaker 4 (30:52):
And now I'm like awesome anything, like it really was
not like that crazy but like it just bring my
interview and also like the Carles intimidating.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Like a big super Bowl event for my first time.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
And like fun fact, nothing to do that we're talking about,
Like who knew Bagas got cold?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Freezing freezing at night.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
I wore for a coat and Gabby didn't.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Yeah, I was freezing, Like Danny thought I was going
to pass out. I think he was scared of himself
over he went.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
On bake Vegas for a week after us.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
I couldn't feel like but that was more like.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Keel after Miami. After Miami, swould make my feet after.

Speaker 6 (31:27):
Was like I couldn't feel like a week.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
We should probably get some stuff before we go to
the next track.

Speaker 6 (31:31):
Well, my grandma told me about this like stuff. We
should look into it.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
Grandmas giving, no know what's for your shoes for your feet?

Speaker 1 (31:40):
This old talk. So we're on the red carpet. We
just need a Valentine there all the celebrities, Gronks coming out,
and Kathy is freezing cold, just like.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
In the MORNINGLD one.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
We didn't even have tickets to like the actual event.
We only had tickets like me and Michelle or the
carpet press.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
Oh actually I actually got in with like a plus
two or something.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I got VIP.

Speaker 3 (32:02):
She broughteen people, so she brought everybody in and I'm
sitting with the carpet don't mind you. I'm begging Ashley before.
I'm like, can you give me your jacket or anything.
She's like, no, I have to go inside. And I
was like, why is she being like so annoying about it? Well,
then she comes out, she runs over, she puts the
jacket on me, and I'm like, maybe she just like
loves me. Maybe it's hot in there, and like she
doesn't need it. No, she put all like the VIP

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bands in the jacket.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Like, so I got everyone pretending I was giving my jacket.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Was not pretty good. The thing is second that weekend
we didn't.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Were kidding really good at this, but like sometimes like
me and Michelle are press and Ashley is she's got
an fancy So we get in.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
We got we got our team on all sides.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
That was a good concert.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
It was we really do Divide. That was fifty. That
was really good.

Speaker 6 (32:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Super Bowl we saw a tea paint twenty one Savage
and fifty cent all in one weekend and.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Then we were like front and center and all front row.
That was so cool and I will tell you that
I think. But just going back to you being cold,
because it was I don't understand if you guys understand,
but she was blue, like I don't even like she
didn't feel them. I was like, are you okay? You're
like yeah.

Speaker 3 (33:12):
Meanwhile, Michelle's like like like like full fur.

Speaker 6 (33:15):
It's full fur, but you had nothing underneath it.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I had no clothes on. Id your outfit completely through.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
We're filming like interviews, and next thing I know, like
she's putting people in her coat. I'm like, Michelle, you
got nothing on. Little people like just because they're little people.
They're still people, I know, but they wanted to get warm.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
They weren't your kids.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
My mom loved it.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
It was always love them. Was there.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
There were a lot of weather conditions. I mean, we
were in the Hampton's and we were dying feet.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
There was no water like the Hampton's.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
We need to talk about what happened with the interview
with the reface.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
So the first time to the Hamptons was the hottest
I've ever been, so and that was when actually came.

Speaker 6 (33:55):
We had a great time.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
But there was no water or fans.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
There's no water, only.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Heat k there was like like the only thing that
we're serving was like wine.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
I mean we took it upon ourselves obviously, yeah, obvious.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And Janelle was driving, so like it were right, Jane,
I was getting an ivy.

Speaker 1 (34:14):
Janelle does all of our brand partnerships, but she's she's
having her second going to stay at home mommy.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
I told her, like she still has to be up
to day on everything Bravo because like she's a Bravo girl.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
She is.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
But thank God for Janelle because the second Hampton's event
that year that this summer, me and me and Janelle
went because you had to do the speech.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Right, commencement speech.

Speaker 6 (34:37):
Yeah, we really delided.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
She's in a commencement speech and filmed a movie in
the same day.

Speaker 3 (34:41):
Yeah, we were dividing and conquering that day. But me
and Janelle went to the Hampton's and I did the
red carpet by myself. I was shaking because you know,
I'm used to being on the carpet, but I don't
ask any questions.

Speaker 4 (34:51):
And before this event, we were stressed because We're like,
we have five different events to be to one day,
how is Michelle.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Bron going to interview?

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Cannot be?

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And I was like, the worst comes worse, Like I'll questions.
Hopefully they say it in a way we can like
cut it.

Speaker 6 (35:02):
But I was.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I got home and we're editing it, and I was like,
we could so put Michelle's voice over it because I
had like like I wasn't in the shot. Yeah, I
wasn't in the shot. No, I didn't even my hand
was even in it. I just gave Teresa the mic
and so we did the voiceover, and like, you know
who actually Catherine, she came up to me like an
event after because she saw me on from the Smither.

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She came up to me after like not because she
was at the Hampton event. She came to She goes, Gabby,
that is so smart. You've put Michelle's voice over it,
Like she goes, I know Michelle wasn't there, you can't tell,
And I was like nobody can.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
And Viral, yeah, the video and Viral.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Was one of our Dolores and Teresa were like the
two best interviews we had at that point, and they
were from the Hampton's event. Which is And I remember too,
like I was so nervous because I was like, I
don't even know if I'm able to edit this, Like
that's always like how do you make it work? And
I was like I just had everybody to say their
name and like that they're on Michelle burn Red and
Michelle's like they're saying my name, honesty, your name's on
the mic.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
I feel like if you and Janel were the ideal
to people to go because Jane had the best question, right,
Like you guys are so like Bravo, like you know, Bravo,
but like I feel like Janelle's.

Speaker 3 (36:05):
Like Janelle's yeah, I'm texting her, like what's the best question? Yeah,
but no she was she And also it's all about
placement on the carpet, Like we went last, and I
listened to everyone's questions before me, So that's honestly better. No,
you always want to go last because people too, you
get them on the way out.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right, and like sometimes people like skip around.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
If like someone else is going and like by the
time they get to you, they're like ready, they just
want to give a good answer and leave, you know,
but you can listen. That's what I was like, I
don't know half these people's names, but I would like
sit there and listen to them and then I'd be like, so,
tell me about your daughter. You know I heard I
heard that something's.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
Going on with her over there.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
What do you guys think? Was like your favorite interviews
we've done? Like do I have your favorite remember at.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
The Soul Full super Bowl event? And like the band
came in in the middle of the episode, yes or not?

Speaker 6 (36:56):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
I was just watching it the other day actually, and
it was just so funny because like the band comes
in mid question, Michelle's like talking and all of a sudden,
who was that?

Speaker 4 (37:09):
No, we have to do like a Blue Brillers thing
because that was a panel which I panned over to
the band and then I pinned back to them and
they just kind of like stare each other, and then
I just just like like.

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Do something and the Michelle just like the up just
started dancing and then the band goes away. They don't
they just finished the interview, like pick up in this
sentence where she left off like it was like we.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Weren't going to address it.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
I feel like I remember the video, but I remember
your face. Were you interviewing the band, or you were
interviewing someone on came in, the.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
Band was coming through.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
It was like an NFL player.

Speaker 6 (37:37):
Yeah, it was like an NFL player or something.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
It was at the event and we're at the event
and we're doing it. I'm like blah blah blah, and
then he's like and all of a sudden, like but
you can't ignore it.

Speaker 6 (37:46):
It wasn't even like all the time.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
It was like it was so funny.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
And Michelle's like, that.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Is so funny, So it's your favorite.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
My favorite. One of my favorites was Jay Shatty.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
He he got me to looking in that guy.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
She doesn't cry often, No, she like twice, just those
two times.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Often his eyes piercing.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Looking in those eyes, it's like he just you could
see his soul. Yeah, I've never met anyone like that.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
He's very like intentional in the conversation.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Like when I talked to him, like it's like you
could tell like he's very like present and like talking.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
About is what I need to do? Yeah, No, it's
like because I'm very just like.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Well because like hello mom, or like you're talking you're.

Speaker 6 (38:29):
Talking her over here, and she's like, well that's at work.

Speaker 2 (38:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Here, when we're here, I'm like, oh, I got her
locked in for nine hours.

Speaker 6 (38:38):
Nothing better than that.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
And I love Martha Stewart.

Speaker 3 (38:40):
Martha Stewart, you loved Martha Sewart. Was kind of fun
because didn't think we're going to get her.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
We didn't do it together. She came at the very end.
We were on the carpet for like an hour and
a half and we were dressed to the nines. It
was at like the Hudson Galloy.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yards, Chelsea River Park, Friends Galla, Gabby, yeah, you know,
and it was very exclusive event.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
We got tickets and everything. But when Martha came out,
they were like, oh, carpets are wrap And I'm like.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
I think Martha was like one of our really biggest people,
like her first really big people.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
And then she came out of her car. At the end,
we had like one minute to spare. We were the
only ones to get it. Yeah, she came to us,
and then I saw her so many other times and
now like a recognizable face.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Martha Stuart, my neighbors her, You past man, really fun facts.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Gabby always knows a friend of a friend.

Speaker 6 (39:27):
Yeah, my brother.

Speaker 1 (39:30):
I just want to talk about Gabby's two things can
be true theory.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So I was just telling I didn't realize this was
so like a big impact on you.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Oh. It was like I give a lot of advice
to people all the time because I've had success in
different areas marketing or whatever, and people are always looking
to pick my brain. Every single day of my life.
I have to pick your brain conversation? Do I not?
Every day? And they're like, do you charge for this?
Because everybody wants to pick your brain?

Speaker 2 (39:58):
So you could charge five hundred. You say, like, she
doesn't realize what she says.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
I do, but you know I want to help people too,
so and we're working through that. We'll get there, but
we're working looking through it. But so I have these
picture brain conversations. And Gavey said to me, She's like,
you know, I heard what you were saying like on
this call.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
Yeah, I feel like every time we get in the
car together, we just we're giving it advice back.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
And and Gavy's just like, you know, like you can
still like love this person and feel like they weren't right,
like didn't treat you right. And I was like, you
know what, that's a really good point, Like I always
felt like it had to be one or the other.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Like I always felt like.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
You know how the let them theory right by by
our girl Mel. I love her. She's amazing with her
me too, She's so good Mel Robbins, and you know
everyone's read the book and she's doing she's doing iconic things.
But I think that you know, two things can be
true is a very similar thing. It's not the let
them theory. No, it's just kind of.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
Like like, yeah, like of course this is true and
this is true, like.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
You don't it doesn't matter, like yeah, like it doesn't
have to be definitely, like if your friend's wronging you,
right and you know you're like I'm writing them off
and you're like, but I don't want to write them off.
You can feel those both of those.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Like I'm always telling them like you can stay friends
with somebody and like still not put up with that,
like you can like no, like, don't expect them to change, right,
They're not going to Like it's just gonna hurt yourself, yeah,
because you're gonna be like hopeful for something else. And
I always am telling Michelle, I'm like like and it's
just about everything every time we're in the car, like Michelle,
two things can be true. And then on Monday, and
I just told Ashley this morning Monday, you said it

(41:30):
to me. You were like, Gabby, the two things can
be true. Like I think about it all the time,
like you're so right, And I was like, I didn't
even think this was so powerful, like I think.

Speaker 6 (41:38):
From the toe point.

Speaker 4 (41:39):
But I feel like it's also like, especially with friendship,
it's like, oh, like there's it's such like a hardline
where it's like, oh, my friend cares about me, or
it's like no, like your friend's just actually being disrecent.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
I'm like, no, not being any relationship right right exactly.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
And I do feel like in my life because I've
been so nice to people, people take advantage of me.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Oh absolutely, And like I think like we see it
so much because we're with you so much, and we're
always like Michelle, like this isn't.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
It's not okay and and and for a long time
it's not because I don't value myself like a lot
of people will that know me, will I love myself.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
My favorite quote from Michelle is you know one time
she's like, oh, my arm is so fat and we're
like no, like love your arms because I love my arm.
I just know it's fat.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Can be true.

Speaker 4 (42:19):
I love it, but it should make it comment about
being scared, but it's like she's the most secure person.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
That's the easiest part. I love like I love myself.
I'm fully invested in. I think I'm amazing, but I
also am real. Right, but you're also a person, like, yeah,
I still have like thoughts.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Different.

Speaker 1 (42:36):
I want to improve, I want to be better. I
want to be the best I can be. But even
at your best, you're still there's still improvement, right, one's perfect,
you know, and and I do think like I think
often about the two things can be true, And I
think like in adult friendships, it's hard. It's hard to
find good people that you can trust, especially doing what
we do. Everyone wants to gain something and I'm like,

(42:56):
I got nothing to gain from Give me some time,
you know what I mean, Like, once I'm there, I'll
help you. But what I've also learned is I don't
think you're ever really there. I think it's the journey,
and I think you you become.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
Better and live your dash.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, there's no end, like like like my family will
ask me, like when are you going to stop all this?
Or hey, Michelle, like when is enough enough? And I'm
like it's not enough, I'm gonna go.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
I'm like I'm not thinking until I'm a hundred yeah
and exactly, and like next time it's going to be better,
and like it's it's even conversations I've had with my
husband because he's not about this whole crazy life, but
he's down for the ride and there's certain moments that
he gets from it too, Like it's so cute, like.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
When like we do something big and like I hear
him because we're all in the same office, Like I
hear him down the hall just be like Michelle did this,
like my life did this, and it's like he's like
like I'll hear him have the same conversation like for
an hour before anyone gets in.

Speaker 6 (43:48):
It's just like so funny.

Speaker 4 (43:50):
Do you think like growing up, like being like an
adult now, it's harder to make friends than it was
when maybe you were like Gabby and I age.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
I think growing up when you're in school and there's
so many people there, you you know, you can float
from group to group and there's you're just with people
because you have to be and then in college you're
best friends of people because you're living living, so it's
like in a week, it's like a year of high school.
Right one week, you auto you know everything about the person.
But then I think when you get out of that

(44:17):
and you're going to the workforce, you have like your net.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
We're not lucky because we're like together all the time
to get the same age.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
But like when you start networking in business, like really
is about those strategic partnerships that are going to propel
you forward. And I think it's about aligning yourself with
people have the same values and the same goals because
if they have a different goal, they're going to put
something else in your head that doesn't get you where
you want to go. And you guys know, I'm big
on goals, So that's all I talk about, because you

(44:45):
don't have a goal, you're going nowhere. But I do
think like, if you know she makes us have a hundred,
If you know where you're headed and you surround yourself
with people that are like minded, that have good intentions,
find that person and hold on for dear life, because
that's a true hard to find person. And I think
whether you're in business, I think now because again I'm
forced to be with friends because of soccer and your kids.

(45:12):
Like the age that our girls, Stefan is at, I
love your stuff or you guys are at, like you know,
the twenty two to thirty is a little hard.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
You're not back in that like structure, like once you
have kids, like you start getting back into that, Like
you have kids around the same as you do, and
the same thing, like your kids are friends, so your
parents the parents.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
But you can immerse yourself in those networking groups. You
can immerse yourselves in if you like to hike or
if you like to go to bar class or whatever.
It is, like find you're you and find someone that's
like minded. And it's also nice to have someone that's
not in the day to day as well, so that
you can talk things that have none.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
But my friends I talk about Ashley, Yeah always lit.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
I feel right.

Speaker 4 (45:51):
That's why it's like a thing in your twenties where
like you go through so many friends groups and like.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
That is like a natural thing.

Speaker 4 (45:55):
It's like well yeah, like you're not like you're going
through so many different stages of life.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Like and it's okay, like friends to come right, like
I really honestly feel that right, like it's okay.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I feel like it hurts more when like you put
it in like a different like category where like you
think they're going to be there forever and like yeah, of.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Course, and like you don't have to like cut them off, right,
Like it's okay to like have a little space and
then they come back together.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
When it's time.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
I think one last thing as a mom, having friends
is harder because when you become friends with the mom,
your kids are vested, and like if you wrong me, whatever,
wrong me, But if you wrong my kids, or you
don't put my kid on a team, or you're out
there and you're doing something to intentionally hurt a child
because of whatever your bias is towards me or them

(46:38):
or the athletic ability or whatever it could be, that's
when like I have to pull back because how could
you do that to a kid? They don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Then they're going to instill that and then then they
they don't know any better.

Speaker 6 (46:50):
Well, like you know, we just can't. I got one
thing to say.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
If someone comes after Luca Lucci or Lily, they got
us to invite me and me and actually are come it.

Speaker 6 (47:02):
Watch right, it's strong. I took him down the other day.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
So just we'll fight at you can actually.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Be like taking a picture or something.

Speaker 2 (47:09):
But I'm using my words. I use my word words.
How many ten year olds can I take like verbally?

Speaker 6 (47:17):
No, she's verbal. That's like she probably couldn't take one
like I could.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
I can make them all cry with my words.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I don't think you could fight one ten year old
to become you could not fight.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
I don't believe I can't fight.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
I kicked my butt. Yeah no, but I did make
a boy cry at the bar on Saturday.

Speaker 3 (47:32):
We'll see it's Ash is a good verbal assassin.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
You didn't have verbal assassin. Love that put.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
I'll kick their ass and you'll like tell them you'll you'll.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
Like I don't know what i'd say, all right, some
things down. Yeah, you should come on more episodes.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Well, I mean, if we get that in house studio,
maybees bang them out all the time.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
That sounds good. Yeah, I love you than

Speaker 2 (47:57):
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