September 3, 2025 • 45 mins
This week on Michelle Barone RED, we’re rolling out the red carpet for the ultimate Beverly Hills duo — Pol’ Atteu and Patrik Simpson! From dazzling couture gowns to must-see reality TV moments, these two know how to bring the glam, the laughs, and the behind-the-scenes drama. Pol’, a world-renowned fashion designer, and Patrik, his larger-than-life partner in business and life, share their journey from dressing Hollywood’s elite to starring on hit reality shows. They spill on celebrity culture, the art of standing out, and what it really takes to keep up in Beverly Hills. Get ready for fashion, friendship, and a whole lot of fabulous — this episode is as bold and unforgettable as Pol’ & Patrik themselves.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to arid Red. It's Michelle Baron and I am
missing my co host Ashley, but I do miss you, Asha,
and I can't wait for you to see this one
because I'm with my two favorite people from Beverly Hills,
Paula and Patrick. Yeah, welcome to a beautiful color.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
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I mean, the guests that we've had on the show,
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it's a serious topic.
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
But she's not here, but I know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
She is, and she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
If she was here, then we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah that's right, Oh no, you'd always be here. Come on, now,
we have so much to talk about Undressed. You have
so many shows coming out and ten Telly Awards on
your podcast on.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Show t w ten Telly Awards for Gowning Out in
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know, I know four last year we won four
last year. Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But now ten, Yes, I mean this is like huge.
That is huge that I'm monumental nervous.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Right now because we won the Outstanding Digital We won
the American Reality TV Award two years ago for Gowning
Out Outstanding Digital Series, and the nominations for the Reality
Awards are coming out in like a month, so I'm like,
oh my god, I want to play someone to play that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We but we won side by side with Orange County
Housewife for Telly, so one of the Telly's that we
won first place because they do they rank it for
a second third. We won Orange County Housewife and us tie.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And I'm like, that's right. I brought the drama bit.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's true. So what was it like filming gown and Out.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's so much fun, it is. He's so hard to produce.
I mean, I mean produce, what are you talking about?
One of the producers. As one of the producers of
the show. It's so difficult to produce him?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why because can I say, can I cuss you? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Good?
Speaker 7 (03:42):
So he is so because I produced the show. He's
a producer on the show. I see my name the
credits produce anything, and I am how do I not produce?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I in the credits? I do something.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's called something he talks, that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's what we call a vanity credit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And him because he's a designer who shows the dresses.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So the dresses, but who's the show who fits the dresses?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Okay, you do?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Okay, Well if I didn't do that, you wouldn't have
a freaking show.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, good point.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Maybe, yeah, I guess it's true. I can't do that.
I mean, can I put another designer in try it?
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know if anyone has his experience.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Well, one of the tellies, and we won for editing,
which I love the way we do the edit of
the show.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's really kind of fun and campinging.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
My help.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You edit the dresses?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Honey, No, he doesn't do that. And then I won
for directing. Sounds kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think I won too. Telly's for directing act.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wait, it'sn't my name, and the credits as a director too,
because I need it again.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's called a vanity credit. Yes, apparently I'm doing it,
so I get no credit.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Take my name off, then I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Do I get my name when they say Peppa pull
it to best Dressed in page six?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Where the is my name? You can't even sell a button?
What do you want people to believe that?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That is kind of I mean, how do we lie?
We don't?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Why good personality? He bring?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You bring personality and he does the communication? You do communication?
Tried part? Why didn't you put communications? Might put drink Simpson?
He tried to teach me how to sew a button.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Yeah, And I was like and he was like doing
the thread and all that, and I'm like, how the do.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You get this in that little hole?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And I'm really good about getting things in a hole,
but I always say that, but.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Not in a needle. It's too small. Maybe that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, I can't believe you can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not that all. I mean one of my Jade Jerry,
I'm only twenty eight. I know for life, but it's
a talent it is a talent that he has. It
really really is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know, I have such a for it it. The
interesting thing is none of that stuff even bothers me.
I do it so effortlessly. I don't even think I
can see what I'm doing or pay attention to it,
because I'm just in the moment of being able to
accomplish it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
When did you learn like how to do all this?
Like how did it all come to be?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
When I was twelve years old? Because I love Boot,
I want it to be Boot. Because when you're growing up,
all your parents are thinking about, oh, you should be
a doctor, you should be a lawyer. You got a paycheck,
and then you get a good job, you marry and
then you're fine. I thought, I want to be an actor.
I want to be a performer. I love doing industry stuff.
I get little kids on TV. I'm a transplant. So
(06:42):
I didn't know anything was possible except for what my
parents told me I can do because we had no internet.
I am ninety eight, so we had no internet back then.
But then when I was watching the show The Love
Boat The Dead, Boot, Julie, the cruse director was having
a fashion show on the dead and I'm like, whatever
(07:03):
is going And it wasn't one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It wasn't something that I was into that episode. I
loved that moment fashion of it all well, I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Moment when Julie da Cruz director was having a fashion
show on stage and then they went from bikinis.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
To casual wear to eveningwhere and I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I was so enthralled that I pointed to it and
I said, what are they doing? I don't even know
what it's called. I don't know what it is. Yeah,
but I need this in my life right now.
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Speaker 2 (09:02):
The right way and you just figured it out and
I figured it out because I used to dress my
mom anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I oh, my mom used to be.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
My mom used to make all her close custom so
I used to go with her and design things. But
I never thought that was a job. I thought, Okay,
you just do it. It's fun, it's yeah, it's not
something you do as a career. Then when I saw it,
I'm like, wait a minute, that's what I want to do.
And then that's when it got even harder for me
(09:33):
to be able to do it, because then they're like,
oh my god, you're going to lose your culture. You're
going to lose your ethnicity, You're going to lose everything
that we've taught you.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You want to do things that we don't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I think they were scared about what their kid
wanted to do and didn't know how to support it.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But Michelle, what I can say is, and you are
a witness to this. You came into the boutique, he
picked exactly what dress for you. You're like, it's not gonna
and he's like, just shut up and put it on.
I think it kind of said.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And when I was like a glove, when I was
like when I was I'm playing with Teresa. I'm like, okay, Michelle,
get in the dressing room. Here's a dress. Yes, that's
you want to want to Yeah, yeah, you know it's
It's really weird how it goes in my brain.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I was like, I don't know about this, and you're
like put it on, trust me. And then you're like,
I'm gonna put this metal thing here, We're gonna shorten it.
They're gonna do this because I can't wait to see it.
This is my big DMA dress.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm so excited he did.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
He did a dress he was doing a dress for
with Sarah Almadani from Real Housewives of Dubai. It was
her reunion dress, Yes, her reunion dress, and we had
shipped it from Beverly Hills to New York because she
was coming. They were flying her in from Dubai for
the season first season reunion and the US they lost
(10:54):
the dress, could not find it anywhere because we get
notifications like where it is lost in trans in America.
Last thing I heard it was in Texas somewhere and
the reunion was like in two days, so he's and.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Then her flight was delayed at the same time, so
I didn't want to tell her.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
She didn't know what was going on. And I went back.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
To the boutique at midnight and I sewed a dress
until eight a m. In the morning, a brand new
so that I thought, if worse comes to worse, I
have a backup dress that I can go ahead and
get on a plane and still make it to I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Got them on the flight he's getting ready to go
to New York.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
And then as we're getting ready to leave the boutique
with the brand new dress that he sewed all night long,
they he goes, just call them one more time, find out.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So I got an alert. I called them. They found
the dress.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Then we send a courier to go pick up the
dress from upstate New York to bring it to drive
it all down to Manhattan to the location. And I said,
you better not lose sight of this package or I
will shoot you.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And then the same dress he wound.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Up, they wound it's similar. It wasn't identical, No, the
same one because you shape was the same, but it
wasn't the same fabric, yes, because I different. Well, the
other one was hand beated. This one was it.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I'm talking about the same dress that you the one
that you made the same dress that he made. The
remade All Night Long went to the Oscars three months
later with a supermodel. It went It's like it kind
of was like everything was meant to be.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And when she walked in more eyes were on her.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
She's a super and then they forgot all the actors
and the movie stars that they were supposed to be
there to do.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
There was this gold dress. You look at Oscar Statue.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It was.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
And I'm like thinking to myself, I seen all these
women on the you know, these main A list actresses
with these gowns on the red carpet.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm like, and you know they're trumping.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Oh, this designer worked on this for two weeks or
a month and back in and I'm like, he made
this dress in eight hours and it I can't even
tell you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I didn't stop sewing, and he would ask me questions
and I wouldn't respond.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Stop. I just wouldn't respond.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You were amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Because when you when you focus on the art aspect
of it all, and it's not the technical, which is
the sewing and the construction and the making the pattern
and fitting.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I was trying to mimic.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Exactly what was in the box that was lost but
found because the textures are different, the movement's different, so
you have to recreate it in a way where she's
not going to be disappointed when she opens up the
package and goes, that's not what you showed versus what's
how it's going to fit because the dimensions are going
(13:50):
to be different only because the textures are different.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
But also Michelle, we had no choice because we're thinking
she's getting on a plane from Dubai, she's coming and
she doesn't have a dress for the reunion.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Isn't what heroes you too are?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I was insane, but I never I even called my
friend who's a flight attendant, and said, I said, can
you take this stress? If all else fails, you're going
to fly to New York because you're on a route
pick that was our backup plan. We couldn't be the
flight attendant. And she goes, you want me to be
your mule?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Is drog She's like, I can't be a mule, but
I'll do this for you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So you you had it all covered, you know what?
That's amazing. I want to talk about these are iconic moments.
You guys are producing outfits, dresses, and attire for some
of the world's most prestigious people on and off the carpets.
What has been your most you know, prestigious person that
you've done a dress for? And I know there's so
many over the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Years, I think, and in a cult being a good
friend and iconic, be the one that I made for
her that she's passed away in she's buried in.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, she's wearing my gown there. I mean, Betty White
made her dress.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And because she's such an icon and she was the
oldest living legend that I was able to create a
gown for for when she was being honored by Sandra Bullock.
And then even bigger was the fact that she invited
us to be her guest.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
At the SAgs. Yeah, that's pretty night. And I was like, oh, girl,
let's go for me.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
It's like Bella Thorne. He did Bella Thorne's very first
Awards dress. She was Young Artist nominated for Young Artists Words,
which is the Youth Oscars, and he made her very
first dress. And then he made her birthday dress twenty
five years to turn twenty five.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, like how many years later? That was kind of
pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, and his sister Danny, which is pretty cool, He's done.
I mean Peppa, he wore Peppa, Papa, he wore her,
she wore. He made her gown and she wore it
to the Grammys last year, And in season five of
Gowning Out in Beverly Hills, we have a whole episode
of how he created the gown for Peppa for the
Grammys and her daughter Egypt Chris wedding. She got married
(16:21):
when she was eight and a half months pregnant. Anywhere
made the gown for her.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I know the show. It was pretty fun. She was turking.
I thought that baby was about to fall out. She
was on the dance floor. I sweart of God.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm like, we're gonna call the ambulance right now, You're
about to have the baby here on the dance was
She wouldn't stop moving.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It was insane. Have you been to every day? Every day?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Word?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
An event? Every day? Really every day? I don't go home.
That's what I mean. I don't need a home any
I set it up, I do it, I take him,
make it. Did you hear it? Because did you hear that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Because my point is, if it was up to you,
you would rather be home hanging out, not going to
an event every night.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're more of a hind. He doesn't like it. He
really doesn't. Okay, so I'm an introvert.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No ways, I'm a total introvert.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I told you that, Oh he's a nerd? Are you kidding?
Such a nerd? I was just sitting behind a sewing machine.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Here's the thing. I think we have different strengths and weaknesses.
I don't think either of us have a weakness that
we don't compliment each other with, not just to be
able to carry out. Because we're very passionate about everything
that we do. And I think the passion that we
have for each other, wanting to be with each other,
is what creates the dynamic energy for it. Because he
(17:52):
wants to go, I don't want to let him down,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like, okay, but I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So he likes to go. Okay, we'll go for an
hour which turns into five.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And hanging out with him, but it's so much fun.
And then he hangs out with me and he's dragging
me like a two year old.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
To every single hit.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
But like last weekend we were with we went to
Bridget Jones Diary we were we met.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Hung out with it like it's like iconic things.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like this, and he's like, we got to get a
picture with Renee. I'm like, what do we need another picture?
But we got to take a picture premiere and his brain,
we're supporting her, so we got to do the picture.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We gotta go. I'm like yes, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Then and then we wait in line like normal people
who are trying to get a photo that have like signed.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Up first before we got in line, and we got
in line with everybody, and we got in line with
other people all and they've signed up to want to
be in life.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
There's only a limited amount of people. And we're like, no,
we're going to be in like to because we want
to be like the regulars and not have them feel like,
oh well just because you know you take a chair.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
No, But we always do that.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
We always go to events, We always hang out, We
always have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
What's the best Hollywood event You've ever been to?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The best Hollywood event I've ever been to?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, when I went to the Academy Awards, and I
told the houses at the table, because you go to
the Governor's Ball after and then you're eating and everything
has like a little statue on a chocolate my favorite.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Can't stop eating it? How do you not?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And there's so much food it's insane. So people don't
eat at these events. I don't understand why. I'm like,
there's so much food, it's going.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
To be and they can't sit in your dress.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Yeah yeah, well but this one got it done from
the Oscars and they gave him the chocolate Oscar.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
So I cho I literally did the table. They saw
me pulling it together.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I said, I'm gonna take it to my staff, like
the I mean, they helped me get here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They should have a little pizza bed.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So when the host, when the waiter came back by
and goes, I go, do you have any tupperware in
the back? I should have brought somebody put some little
They put some little tupperwares like those containers to go
and they filled it up with different things. And then
everybody else was walking around with like gift bags that
they got.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I was he had the gift bags. I was walking
around with the food.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
I was like, I want to say, like every like all,
even like Oscars. When Oscars went Grammys to the the
Emmys last year went to the Emmys.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That was iconic. We got to, you know, hang out
with Lizzo.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And Hannah Wattingham from you know, from Ted Lasso, and
there was so much guys.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
They most loved people under down, Like you go downder
Down and it's very you know, it's a little stick
but it's beautiful, but it's stunning. And then there's you
two and you're just cool and like you guys, just
make it. You make it memorable and you make it
comfortable and it feels like home in the midst of
all the crazy Hollywood stuff. TMZ's outside and you guys,
(21:16):
you see them driving.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
You see them drive byke We're like, yes, because TMZ
always stops in front of our boutique, the bus because
of when Anna, Nicole, Benny White, all the celebrities are
coming to our boutique and also they and now it's
really funny they stop in front of our Bowteek. That's
where they filmed gowning out in Beverly Hills and it's cool.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It is. It is when we were when we.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Were at Larry King's house because he was doing address
for Sean King when Larry was alive, and I remember
it was really funny and Larry kind of taught me
this because he they we were sitting there talking to
him and all of.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
A sudden, you know how they do it starts home.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Yes, yeah, So the TMZ bus stopped in front of
Larry King's house and Larry gets on the monitor because
they have a monitor in the entire house. Oh wow, Okay, kids, everyone,
we gotta go out front. We gotta wave and say
hello to the TMZ bus. So everybody immediately left. The kids,
we walked walked out in front and they all waved
to the TMZ bus.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Because He's like, these are the people that watch, These
are the people that know, These are the people that
have taken time to come in front of I mean,
maybe you're going to get somebody who doesn't know you
to love you. Maybe you're going to get the same
people and make a dream come true for coming all
the way out and seeing an icon like Larry King
(22:28):
walk out the front door. And one time he had
his belt buckle so yeah, his pants because he was
sitting in the in his den downstairs, so he always
unbuttoned and.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Taking the belt off.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Nobody knows this, but he would under the belt and
unbuckle his button and sit on the couch like you
see his seat, and then he runs outside with his belt.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm like, Larry, I mean, I want I want to
be the one in the bus. I want to see this.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
But like when they come the TMZ bus and the
and the Hollywood tour bus, they stop in front of boutique.
We always if we see them, like stop at a
lighter because the light's right there. I'll always run out
with gouning out postcards and say hello to people.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
They recognized.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They're like, I mean they see her walking at her
palm trees back and forth.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
But you know who else was like the Anonachal Smith
when we were on the trip Spot bus and her
face was wrapped around the entire bus.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
We'd stop off.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We'd travel and we were going through different states and
we'd stop off with that bus. It would be surrounded
by people and she would take pictures, autographs everybody until
they were all gone.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Then we would get on the bus and we'd leave. Yeah,
and she took the time to really hear people. Yeah,
that makes.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Sense because she cared.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yes, she cared.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
She cared and that's important. And you know what it's like,
you know, you put the people first, and that's why
it's given to you. Yeah right, How did you guys meet? Like,
where did this all start?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
A New York We met here at our friend.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
My friend who's a fashion photographer, very famous fashion photographer,
Joe Lance, invited me over to his loft. They was
having a party. I was in New York because I
was president of the Modeling Association of America the second time, and.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I was I had just finished doing Brian Park Fashion
Yeah week Oh cool, because that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Was his show in New York.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Mercedes Benz used to sponsor at that So when I
did Brian Park Fashion Weekend. He hand a studio at
Brian Park. He goes, bring all the clothes and everything.
We're gonna do a photo shoot. You do your interviews.
But I have a bunch of mines. They'll come to
the loft. I'll bring him there. Don't worry, they want you.
So we're doing a photo shoot, a fashion shoot at
the loft. And his loft was amazing. Studio corner had
(24:48):
something interesting happening. I mean, he's shot for the cover
of Vogue Elle.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
All of these Like his bathroom is a set.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Everything, every every square inch is a set. So I'm
doing an interview and for Style back in the day,
and they happened to be still there when I was
trying to finish up wrap up the interview.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He walked in.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now I have naked models on one side, boys and girls.
There's Chinese food being delivered, pizza being delivered. I don't
even want to tell you what they're doing. They're all young, hot, sexy, naked.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's hot.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It's a studio in walks pet and then he walks
in with a three piece suit, a tie and a
trench coat.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm trying to be as New York as I could
back then.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And I was like, oh, I swear to god, I
think I turned into a total buffoon.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I had no idea why I was in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I had no idea what the conversation was and what
the question was. I watched all context.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Really I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, when you have a hotty like him walk walk in,
what do you do? And I couldn't tell him that,
Oh my god, the man of my dreams.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Just walked in.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I mean with the naked men there, Like I
wasn't even looked because she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Even interested staring at me all night, I was staring
at him.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well, I finally just like, okay, I'm putting it into
this bull I don't like around. So I grabbed him,
pulled him into the bathroom, pushed him against the wall,
gave him a kiss, and moving together for twenty two years.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I'll tell you what. The bathroom looked like a jungle.
The bathroom does not look like a bathroom. It's like
you're being pushed against the amazon.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, there were vines coming down, the walls were covers.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You wouldn't even see the toilet or the shower. It
was like the whole thing was a set. So they
would turn on.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, they would turn on the hot water and it
would steam up the place, and you're like coming out
of the like it's I sort of got.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And then we've been he's six.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Two and a half. I'm petite, on the petite side.
So he pushed me up against the wall, doesn't even.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Know my name. I didn't towers, gave me a kiss.
I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And I sort of got when I looked up and
you just earlier asked is that real blonde hair and stuff?
And I looked up and I'm like, I've just died
in my heaven and if this has heavened, I don't
ever want to come back.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And then we went. A week later.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
A couple of days later, I went back to Arizona.
I was in Scottsdale. He was in Beverly Hills. I
invited him.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
To go to a photo shooting.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, but before then, I got to tell you the
best part. Oh my god, he loves this part I do.
After kiss, we came out, really he came. We came
out of the bathroom and he's like, you want to
go hang out? I said, hold up, buddy. First of all,
all that that happened, I'm like, that was very uncalled for.
I wasn't prepared. I wasn't ready. What do I look like?
(27:34):
A fluozie? Like you can just pick up off the street.
That's the models over there. Yes, that ain't me.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
He doesn't even know my name. And my first question
to him, you.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Were said, you were like, what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I was like, but you can't just be doing
this and then ask me out what do I look like?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No, No, that's not happening. So I told him, I said,
where are you staying? He goes, what does it matter?
We're not going to go to the hotel. I said, no,
that's not happening. But where are you? You could be
an axe murderer. I don't I'm not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
With you just because that kiss was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Don't you get ahead of yourself, my friend, He goes,
and he thought. After twenty minutes of me saying no,
I'm not going to go anywhere until you tell me what,
I'll tell you're staying at he goes, fine, You're not
going to go anywhere until I tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I go no, I'm fine. Look there's the naked people,
there's Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
There's pizza, there's loud music, crazy shit going on.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm good, I'm so good. He goes, fine, I'm staying
at the Waldorf.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
And right nice I saw a reaction. Hello mana shlock.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He thought. He thought, Oh great, if I say to Waldorf,
I was staying at the Waldorf.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
If I say I was staying at the Waldorf, you
know this says there's a regular section of the towers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's my right, that's right, shower about to go anywhere.
If I was gonna be cornish, I was in the towers.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But what I but I what I liked. Trust me, honey,
I was going to go to a tent or motel six.
I didn't care what he was hot.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
I was like, oh my god, I sorry, but but
what what happened is and that could have been a
deal breaker at that point, because he would have been like,
oh for.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You, I'll take one of these models anywhere and just
have my way. He don't make me talk about huge Chapman.
He took a picture of his little what do you
call that on top of the Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So two days ago.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So he stood up tall, he looked at me, and
he goes, I'm staying at the Waldorf in the Towers.
I have my own key card, I have a one
bedroom suite and a doorman. Would you would you like
to go and hang out in the city.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I thought at that point he understood me.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I wasn't just somebody that you were going to be
tossing an hour, enjoying an evening with, because that wasn't
what I thought when I saw him that I saw
in him. I wanted more and I wanted to make
sure that he was going to be that right one.
And when I saw his posture change, his demeanor change
(30:30):
his own change. I thought, this guy just doesn't want
to go to the hotel and you know, hang around.
I go, okay, let's go, and he goes okay.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Then the next day he got a limo from me
to go to the airport. And then.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Did you feel the same way?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah? I did, I definitely did. He went to Arizona.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I went back to LA and I got home at midnight.
I went to the store at ten am. And then
there were flowers being delivered every hour all day.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Long, every hour, all day long.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Can I just he wants one of you? Where can
you find someone? Like? Every hour all day?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
When he drove when he drove away, it was like
a movie.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
When he flipped his head around to make sure that
I got in the car, and now I want to
make sure and you know what My question to him was, God,
that's the craziest ship.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Swear to God. I love these moments.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So I told him, I said, what cell phone are
what cell phone plan do you have?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And I'm like, what do you have? He goes, yeah,
he's everything you needn't know my cell phone plan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And then he goes, it's Sprint. I go, oh good,
I'm on Sprint. Too, because because it was.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Minutes minutes, I didn't want to wait. I remember it
was sprint to sprint. You want minutes with somebody that
wasn't going to go anywhere. God have we've been together
ever since?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And then after when I called him after the third
arrangement came in, I thought, one arrangement, okay, let him
sweat it out.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
By the time the Flores calls, by the time they
get confirmation, by the time they know honey, ipy, you know,
a couple of hours before I call him. The second
one came, and then the throw I better call this guy.
He doesn't think that they're coming in. I called him up.
He goes, we're gonna go to Mexico for a photo shoot.
Do you want to go? I goh, my god, I
just got home. Hold on you know what. I'd love
(32:28):
to but let me see. I put him on hold,
and he called like I'm at the boutique. I put
him on hold. I told my assist and said.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Get me on the fourth fucking flight.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I'm going to Mexico, to Mexico, and.
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah I have. I wasn't easy in the beginning. Why
And I don't think it.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Was never easy, not even no, no it's not.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But you know what, It keeps you on your toes
because you you might need that, but it's.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Not being easy or not easy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I just didn't feel like if he didn't get a
real sense of who I am, I wanted him to
know what the expectations are, why spend six months trying
to figure me out when it only takes three minutes.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I don't need to take six months. Because I didn't
want just to fling. I wasn't interested in that. I
wanted a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I didn't want to fling.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
No, you were over it.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, I'm always like.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
I was with someone before ten years that had passed
away the year before. So after he died, I didn't
think I was going to ever find a relationship again.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And then I met Paul, and yeah, God.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know those moments are so important to me, and
I'll explain why, because somehow those are the moments that
I want to live up to. Going This man stuck
his neck out and took a chance on someone that
somebody else could have said.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Is very high me, and I'm not at all I am, but.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I am a feeling. Both of you are a little man.
Come on, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm so easy. He made me cut down.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
I only have we only have five suitcases on this trip,
like I usually travel a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
It's too much. He's like, he's very high.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But and people don't know this. They think I'm the
high maintenance. They think I'm the bougie one. I'm this
You're so in and sweating in the back so well
because I make it look so effortless. I don't take
care of things so easy. And he is the other
side of it exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So balance each other out a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But not only that, your energy and the gift you
give to the world, between who you are, the entertainment
you bring, the way you make Hollywood look. I mean,
you guys are iconic. You know you are iconic, and
I know you know you've been a part of many
other people's iconic moments as well. Yeh, what was one
moment in the store, in the shop, in the boutique
(37:05):
where someone came in and said, my god, this just
made my life complete. I know you've had many of
those moments.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh which one, Oh my god, I mean my dress
is won an Academy Award. On the stage at the
Emmys when they thank me when they got the Emmy.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
You know, you know what I think.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I think it's separate from the The dresses are always
iconic and everyone always is like thanking him and all,
you know, he's like the fairy gown mothers what they
call they call me fair. I would say, what he's
been doing now is Armenion coffee cup grounds reading. Yes,
and that I think has been life changing for so
(37:45):
many people because he helps he What it is is
a practice where you you cook Armenion coffee on a
you know, on a burner, and then you pour it
and then they drink the coffee, and then we flip
the cup afterwards and let the grounds dry. Then he
looks into the cup and he reads the grounds and
(38:06):
the shapes in the ground. It's incredible he did. He
did Jeff Lewis well. First of all, he did adding
the Coles coffee cup reading and predicted that she was
pregnant and gonna have a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Did no way he did she was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
He did Jenny Pulos on Jeff Lewis's show, like when
he did when he did Our House on Interior Therapy
with Jeff Lewis, and he predicted Jenny was pregnant and
gonna have a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
She had just come back from the doctors.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
And so and so he does on our podcast every
week we do a celebrity that he reads their coffee
cup grinds. So the next time you're in La we're here,
then we're gonna do when our pod, he'll do.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
A coffee cup.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
When he did Teresauces copy reading on our podcast spot
On and she was blown away about.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You got to go to undress with Paul and Patrica.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
But blown away because he saw in the cup about
about her mother.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Her mother showed up in the cup and the angel.
It was just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Louis before they met, Yeah, how her mom sent Louis
to him. Yeah, I just have to tell you they
are amazing.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I thought, Louis, he's so cool. Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
God, he's such a great personally, I love him.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And both of the they're a good compliment. They are,
they really are.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
They are.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There are another dynamo couple, Like they just feel the energy.
They're very warm and loving and just wonderful people, you know.
And you know it's crazy because sometimes Hollywood makes people
out to be these crazy people and it's just not
the case, you know, And you see that all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
All the time. Hollywood iconic. That's what Hollywood does. I
think it's the media.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
It's the way it's a exaggerated because you were living
underneath a microscope. So they take that microscope, they take
a scenario, maybe out of context or the way it happened,
and everyone has an opinion about it. So you have
to be ready to be able to absorb what opinions are.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And there's so many of them. Yeah, it's hard to
keep up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And sometimes if you start hearing it, you end up
losing your way home. Yeah, because you end up thinking
that must be true. Yeah, but really, did you even
talk to the person yet?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah? Exactly so. And it's like he'll tell you he
did one copy reading.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
I'll just tell you a couple and the girl, the
woman's husband died and he was telling her what she
needs to do for for seven days or was a
process he wanted her to do after looking at her cup,
and she did it and then he saw an owl
in her cup and didn't know what she does owl
ever cut nothing. Seven days later, she sends me a
(40:56):
picture after he did what he told her on top
of that, sitting on top.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Of her roof.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And they live in the middle of nowhere or No.
I was insane, weird nols in that state.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It was crazy.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
But so things like that, I think is really just
for me impact on every one, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And you know what, like those are things that like
people just feel and they remember forever and it helps
guide them.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
They challenge so much comfort And I love that they
wanted me to do this years ago. I've been doing
it since I was five, But the fact that I
wasn't doing it publicly, and then when he introduced it
on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Everybody they know.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I'm a dress designer. I'm part of American history. My
gown travels, the first lady museum across the country. I
wanted to establish myself as a West Coast couturier. You have,
and then his idea to do a fashion podcast, except
for the fact that I'm doing Armenion coffee ground reading.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
So everybody calls in, I mean, and they want, what
the hell is Paul. I thought he was, so you've
been keeping a secret.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Even so now he's helping so many people like that,
so that's pretty iconic. And we do live coffee reads
to do live coffee reading parties.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
That's what we're doing. That's why.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
One of the other reasons why we can I can
I tell your people they can book a pull at
two dot com, p O, L A T T EU
dot com and we do virtual so they can people.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So many people book where they will book.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
We send them a little coffee package with instructions on
how to make the coffee. They make it in real time,
they'll send us pictures. We jump on zoom and then
he reads the cup within live and the assistant isn't
the one doing it Patricks.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Every time he texts, they're like who is this. It's
like it's Patrick and they're like what. And that's why
I'm on the way to an event right now.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
If they give me so much ship because I have
three cell phones, so he gets everyone gives me so
much ship for having three.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
But I'm like, you are the master communicator and I
know like you get back to everybody if anybody reaches out,
but tricks the one to handle it, and that's you.
Guys are such a beautiful couple. I wish you nothing
but success. I can't wait to get my coffee cup reading.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yes, and I.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Love you guys. I want to have you back, like
five hundred times. So anytime in New York.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yes, now we know the way. There's a branch. Well,
I mean we walk into you. I'll say one thing.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
We walk into your studio tonight. We see Jennifer Ayden.
We did that show with her New Money. Yeah, we
see Angelina Marie. I've been talking with her about Paul
doing her wedding gown.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah no for.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
A long time ago.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
So it was nights to see each other. Like it's amazing, listen.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
We it's a small town around here, so we a
lot of people film in this place and we're so
lucky to be here. And I knew you guys would
I didn't want to tell you who was going to
be here. I just wanted you to run into them
because I knew it would be for you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
If I knew they if I knew they were here,
I would have maybe not come.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Come on, you guys are the best. But seriously, you know,
make sure you follow them Instagram. Where can people find
you guys?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Pull at two p O l A T t e
U snow White snow White nine two one.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
O minus Patrick p A t R I K s
I M P s O N Instagram, tickto everything.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It's all the same, right, so.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Make sure you check it out and make sure you
check out the billboard that they just were featured on
with gowning out in Times Square.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
In Beverly Hills, Prime Video and we are now in
sixty countries. Yeah, and award winners Japanese. You do, because
when you told me, I'm like, how do you want
me to pull that one off?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I don't know. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, I'm so glad that your dreams have come true
and continue to. And I love you guys, and I
can't wait to be out fitted for every event.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
You guys are my favorite.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
If you need a dress or you want to get
a reading, where can they.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Find you at two dot com? All right, check them out?
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Thank you so much, we'll see you next time on Red.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Bye Everybody, by everyone,
Welcome to arid Red. It's Michelle Baron and I am
missing my co host Ashley, but I do miss you, Asha,
and I can't wait for you to see this one
because I'm with my two favorite people from Beverly Hills,
Paula and Patrick. Yeah, welcome to a beautiful color.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Your studios gorgeous and I'm glad that's Jane here.
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But hey, guys, before today's episode, I want to talk
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That's right.
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it's a serious topic.
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Speaker 3 (01:58):
But she's not here, but I know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
She is, and she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
If she was here, then we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah that's right, Oh no, you'd always be here. Come on, now,
we have so much to talk about Undressed. You have
so many shows coming out and ten Telly Awards on
your podcast on.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Show t w ten Telly Awards for Gowning Out in
Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know, I know four last year we won four
last year. Wow.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
But now ten, Yes, I mean this is like huge.
That is huge that I'm monumental nervous.
Speaker 7 (02:41):
Right now because we won the Outstanding Digital We won
the American Reality TV Award two years ago for Gowning
Out Outstanding Digital Series, and the nominations for the Reality
Awards are coming out in like a month, so I'm like,
oh my god, I want to play someone to play that.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
We but we won side by side with Orange County
Housewife for Telly, so one of the Telly's that we
won first place because they do they rank it for
a second third. We won Orange County Housewife and us tie.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And I'm like, that's right. I brought the drama bit.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's true. So what was it like filming gown and Out.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's so much fun, it is. He's so hard to produce.
I mean, I mean produce, what are you talking about?
One of the producers. As one of the producers of
the show. It's so difficult to produce him?
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Why because can I say, can I cuss you? Okay?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Good?
Speaker 7 (03:42):
So he is so because I produced the show. He's
a producer on the show. I see my name the
credits produce anything, and I am how do I not produce?
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I in the credits? I do something.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's called something he talks, that's right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
It's what we call a vanity credit.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
And him because he's a designer who shows the dresses.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So the dresses, but who's the show who fits the dresses?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Okay, you do?
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Okay, Well if I didn't do that, you wouldn't have
a freaking show.
Speaker 1 (04:17):
Well, good point.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Maybe, yeah, I guess it's true. I can't do that.
I mean, can I put another designer in try it?
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I don't know if anyone has his experience.
Speaker 7 (04:28):
Well, one of the tellies, and we won for editing,
which I love the way we do the edit of
the show.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
It's really kind of fun and campinging.
Speaker 7 (04:36):
My help.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
You edit the dresses?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Honey, No, he doesn't do that. And then I won
for directing. Sounds kind of cool.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's amazing.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think I won too. Telly's for directing act.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Wait, it'sn't my name, and the credits as a director too,
because I need it again.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
It's called a vanity credit. Yes, apparently I'm doing it,
so I get no credit.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Take my name off, then I'm not doing anything.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
Do I get my name when they say Peppa pull
it to best Dressed in page six?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Where the is my name? You can't even sell a button?
What do you want people to believe that?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
That is kind of I mean, how do we lie?
We don't?
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Why good personality? He bring?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
You bring personality and he does the communication? You do communication?
Tried part? Why didn't you put communications? Might put drink Simpson?
He tried to teach me how to sew a button.
Speaker 7 (05:27):
Yeah, And I was like and he was like doing
the thread and all that, and I'm like, how the do.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
You get this in that little hole?
Speaker 7 (05:35):
And I'm really good about getting things in a hole,
but I always say that, but.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Not in a needle. It's too small. Maybe that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, I can't believe you can do it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
I'm not that all. I mean one of my Jade Jerry,
I'm only twenty eight. I know for life, but it's
a talent it is a talent that he has. It
really really is.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
You know, I have such a for it it. The
interesting thing is none of that stuff even bothers me.
I do it so effortlessly. I don't even think I
can see what I'm doing or pay attention to it,
because I'm just in the moment of being able to
accomplish it.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
When did you learn like how to do all this?
Like how did it all come to be?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
When I was twelve years old? Because I love Boot,
I want it to be Boot. Because when you're growing up,
all your parents are thinking about, oh, you should be
a doctor, you should be a lawyer. You got a paycheck,
and then you get a good job, you marry and
then you're fine. I thought, I want to be an actor.
I want to be a performer. I love doing industry stuff.
I get little kids on TV. I'm a transplant. So
(06:42):
I didn't know anything was possible except for what my
parents told me I can do because we had no internet.
I am ninety eight, so we had no internet back then.
But then when I was watching the show The Love
Boat The Dead, Boot, Julie, the cruse director was having
a fashion show on the dead and I'm like, whatever
(07:03):
is going And it wasn't one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
It wasn't something that I was into that episode. I
loved that moment fashion of it all well, I love that.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Moment when Julie da Cruz director was having a fashion
show on stage and then they went from bikinis.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
To casual wear to eveningwhere and I'm like, what is this?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I was so enthralled that I pointed to it and
I said, what are they doing? I don't even know
what it's called. I don't know what it is. Yeah,
but I need this in my life right now.
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Speaker 2 (09:02):
The right way and you just figured it out and
I figured it out because I used to dress my
mom anyway.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I oh, my mom used to be.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
My mom used to make all her close custom so
I used to go with her and design things. But
I never thought that was a job. I thought, Okay,
you just do it. It's fun, it's yeah, it's not
something you do as a career. Then when I saw it,
I'm like, wait a minute, that's what I want to do.
And then that's when it got even harder for me
(09:33):
to be able to do it, because then they're like,
oh my god, you're going to lose your culture. You're
going to lose your ethnicity, You're going to lose everything
that we've taught you.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
You want to do things that we don't understand.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And I think they were scared about what their kid
wanted to do and didn't know how to support it.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
But Michelle, what I can say is, and you are
a witness to this. You came into the boutique, he
picked exactly what dress for you. You're like, it's not gonna
and he's like, just shut up and put it on.
I think it kind of said.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
And when I was like a glove, when I was
like when I was I'm playing with Teresa. I'm like, okay, Michelle,
get in the dressing room. Here's a dress. Yes, that's
you want to want to Yeah, yeah, you know it's
It's really weird how it goes in my brain.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I was like, I don't know about this, and you're
like put it on, trust me. And then you're like,
I'm gonna put this metal thing here, We're gonna shorten it.
They're gonna do this because I can't wait to see it.
This is my big DMA dress.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I'm so excited he did.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
He did a dress he was doing a dress for
with Sarah Almadani from Real Housewives of Dubai. It was
her reunion dress, Yes, her reunion dress, and we had
shipped it from Beverly Hills to New York because she
was coming. They were flying her in from Dubai for
the season first season reunion and the US they lost
(10:54):
the dress, could not find it anywhere because we get
notifications like where it is lost in trans in America.
Last thing I heard it was in Texas somewhere and
the reunion was like in two days, so he's and.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Then her flight was delayed at the same time, so
I didn't want to tell her.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
She didn't know what was going on. And I went back.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
To the boutique at midnight and I sewed a dress
until eight a m. In the morning, a brand new
so that I thought, if worse comes to worse, I
have a backup dress that I can go ahead and
get on a plane and still make it to I.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Got them on the flight he's getting ready to go
to New York.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
And then as we're getting ready to leave the boutique
with the brand new dress that he sewed all night long,
they he goes, just call them one more time, find out.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
So I got an alert. I called them. They found
the dress.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Then we send a courier to go pick up the
dress from upstate New York to bring it to drive
it all down to Manhattan to the location. And I said,
you better not lose sight of this package or I
will shoot you.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And then the same dress he wound.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Up, they wound it's similar. It wasn't identical, No, the
same one because you shape was the same, but it
wasn't the same fabric, yes, because I different. Well, the
other one was hand beated. This one was it.
Speaker 7 (12:14):
I'm talking about the same dress that you the one
that you made the same dress that he made. The
remade All Night Long went to the Oscars three months
later with a supermodel. It went It's like it kind
of was like everything was meant to be.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And when she walked in more eyes were on her.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
She's a super and then they forgot all the actors
and the movie stars that they were supposed to be
there to do.
Speaker 7 (12:41):
There was this gold dress. You look at Oscar Statue.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
It was.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
And I'm like thinking to myself, I seen all these
women on the you know, these main A list actresses
with these gowns on the red carpet.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
I'm like, and you know they're trumping.
Speaker 7 (12:55):
Oh, this designer worked on this for two weeks or
a month and back in and I'm like, he made
this dress in eight hours and it I can't even
tell you.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
I didn't stop sewing, and he would ask me questions
and I wouldn't respond.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Stop. I just wouldn't respond.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
You were amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Because when you when you focus on the art aspect
of it all, and it's not the technical, which is
the sewing and the construction and the making the pattern
and fitting.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
I was trying to mimic.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Exactly what was in the box that was lost but
found because the textures are different, the movement's different, so
you have to recreate it in a way where she's
not going to be disappointed when she opens up the
package and goes, that's not what you showed versus what's
how it's going to fit because the dimensions are going
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to be different only because the textures are different.
Speaker 7 (13:52):
But also Michelle, we had no choice because we're thinking
she's getting on a plane from Dubai, she's coming and
she doesn't have a dress for the reunion.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Isn't what heroes you too are?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I was insane, but I never I even called my
friend who's a flight attendant, and said, I said, can
you take this stress? If all else fails, you're going
to fly to New York because you're on a route
pick that was our backup plan. We couldn't be the
flight attendant. And she goes, you want me to be
your mule?
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Is drog She's like, I can't be a mule, but
I'll do this for you.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
So you you had it all covered, you know what?
That's amazing. I want to talk about these are iconic moments.
You guys are producing outfits, dresses, and attire for some
of the world's most prestigious people on and off the carpets.
What has been your most you know, prestigious person that
you've done a dress for? And I know there's so
many over the.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Years, I think, and in a cult being a good
friend and iconic, be the one that I made for
her that she's passed away in she's buried in.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
Yeah, she's wearing my gown there. I mean, Betty White
made her dress.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
And because she's such an icon and she was the
oldest living legend that I was able to create a
gown for for when she was being honored by Sandra Bullock.
And then even bigger was the fact that she invited
us to be her guest.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
At the SAgs. Yeah, that's pretty night. And I was like, oh, girl,
let's go for me.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
It's like Bella Thorne. He did Bella Thorne's very first
Awards dress. She was Young Artist nominated for Young Artists Words,
which is the Youth Oscars, and he made her very
first dress. And then he made her birthday dress twenty
five years to turn twenty five.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Yeah, like how many years later? That was kind of
pretty cool.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
Yeah, and his sister Danny, which is pretty cool, He's done.
I mean Peppa, he wore Peppa, Papa, he wore her,
she wore. He made her gown and she wore it
to the Grammys last year, And in season five of
Gowning Out in Beverly Hills, we have a whole episode
of how he created the gown for Peppa for the
Grammys and her daughter Egypt Chris wedding. She got married
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when she was eight and a half months pregnant. Anywhere
made the gown for her.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I know the show. It was pretty fun. She was turking.
I thought that baby was about to fall out. She
was on the dance floor. I sweart of God.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm like, we're gonna call the ambulance right now, You're
about to have the baby here on the dance was
She wouldn't stop moving.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
It was insane. Have you been to every day? Every day?
Speaker 7 (16:47):
Word?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
An event? Every day? Really every day? I don't go home.
That's what I mean. I don't need a home any
I set it up, I do it, I take him,
make it. Did you hear it? Because did you hear that? Okay?
Speaker 7 (17:03):
Because my point is, if it was up to you,
you would rather be home hanging out, not going to
an event every night.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
You're more of a hind. He doesn't like it. He
really doesn't. Okay, so I'm an introvert.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
No ways, I'm a total introvert.
Speaker 3 (17:19):
I told you that, Oh he's a nerd? Are you kidding?
Such a nerd? I was just sitting behind a sewing machine.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
You'd be happy.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Here's the thing. I think we have different strengths and weaknesses.
I don't think either of us have a weakness that
we don't compliment each other with, not just to be
able to carry out. Because we're very passionate about everything
that we do. And I think the passion that we
have for each other, wanting to be with each other,
is what creates the dynamic energy for it. Because he
(17:52):
wants to go, I don't want to let him down,
and I'm.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Like, okay, but I don't want to go.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
So he likes to go. Okay, we'll go for an
hour which turns into five.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
So it.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
And hanging out with him, but it's so much fun.
And then he hangs out with me and he's dragging
me like a two year old.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
To every single hit.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
But like last weekend we were with we went to
Bridget Jones Diary we were we met.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
Hung out with it like it's like iconic things.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Like this, and he's like, we got to get a
picture with Renee. I'm like, what do we need another picture?
But we got to take a picture premiere and his brain,
we're supporting her, so we got to do the picture.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
We gotta go. I'm like yes, okay, And.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
Then and then we wait in line like normal people
who are trying to get a photo that have like signed.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Up first before we got in line, and we got
in line with everybody, and we got in line with
other people all and they've signed up to want to
be in life.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
There's only a limited amount of people. And we're like, no,
we're going to be in like to because we want
to be like the regulars and not have them feel like,
oh well just because you know you take a chair.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
No, But we always do that.
Speaker 7 (19:15):
We always go to events, We always hang out, We
always have fun.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
What's the best Hollywood event You've ever been to?
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The best Hollywood event I've ever been to?
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well, when I went to the Academy Awards, and I
told the houses at the table, because you go to
the Governor's Ball after and then you're eating and everything
has like a little statue on a chocolate my favorite.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Can't stop eating it? How do you not?
Speaker 2 (19:41):
And there's so much food it's insane. So people don't
eat at these events. I don't understand why. I'm like,
there's so much food, it's going.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
To be and they can't sit in your dress.
Speaker 7 (19:53):
Yeah yeah, well but this one got it done from
the Oscars and they gave him the chocolate Oscar.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
So I cho I literally did the table. They saw
me pulling it together.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I said, I'm gonna take it to my staff, like
the I mean, they helped me get here.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
They should have a little pizza bed.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
So when the host, when the waiter came back by
and goes, I go, do you have any tupperware in
the back? I should have brought somebody put some little
They put some little tupperwares like those containers to go
and they filled it up with different things. And then
everybody else was walking around with like gift bags that
they got.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
I was he had the gift bags. I was walking
around with the food.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
I was like, I want to say, like every like all,
even like Oscars. When Oscars went Grammys to the the
Emmys last year went to the Emmys.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
That was iconic. We got to, you know, hang out
with Lizzo.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
And Hannah Wattingham from you know, from Ted Lasso, and
there was so much guys.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
They most loved people under down, Like you go downder
Down and it's very you know, it's a little stick
but it's beautiful, but it's stunning. And then there's you
two and you're just cool and like you guys, just
make it. You make it memorable and you make it
comfortable and it feels like home in the midst of
all the crazy Hollywood stuff. TMZ's outside and you guys,
(21:16):
you see them driving.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
You see them drive byke We're like, yes, because TMZ
always stops in front of our boutique, the bus because
of when Anna, Nicole, Benny White, all the celebrities are
coming to our boutique and also they and now it's
really funny they stop in front of our Bowteek. That's
where they filmed gowning out in Beverly Hills and it's cool.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It is. It is when we were when we.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
Were at Larry King's house because he was doing address
for Sean King when Larry was alive, and I remember
it was really funny and Larry kind of taught me
this because he they we were sitting there talking to
him and all of.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
A sudden, you know how they do it starts home.
Speaker 7 (21:45):
Yes, yeah, So the TMZ bus stopped in front of
Larry King's house and Larry gets on the monitor because
they have a monitor in the entire house. Oh wow, Okay, kids, everyone,
we gotta go out front. We gotta wave and say
hello to the TMZ bus. So everybody immediately left. The kids,
we walked walked out in front and they all waved
to the TMZ bus.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Because He's like, these are the people that watch, These
are the people that know, These are the people that
have taken time to come in front of I mean,
maybe you're going to get somebody who doesn't know you
to love you. Maybe you're going to get the same
people and make a dream come true for coming all
the way out and seeing an icon like Larry King
(22:28):
walk out the front door. And one time he had
his belt buckle so yeah, his pants because he was
sitting in the in his den downstairs, so he always
unbuttoned and.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Taking the belt off.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Nobody knows this, but he would under the belt and
unbuckle his button and sit on the couch like you
see his seat, and then he runs outside with his belt.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
I'm like, Larry, I mean, I want I want to
be the one in the bus. I want to see this.
Speaker 7 (22:55):
But like when they come the TMZ bus and the
and the Hollywood tour bus, they stop in front of boutique.
We always if we see them, like stop at a
lighter because the light's right there. I'll always run out
with gouning out postcards and say hello to people.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
They recognized.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
They're like, I mean they see her walking at her
palm trees back and forth.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
But you know who else was like the Anonachal Smith
when we were on the trip Spot bus and her
face was wrapped around the entire bus.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
We'd stop off.
Speaker 7 (23:23):
We'd travel and we were going through different states and
we'd stop off with that bus. It would be surrounded
by people and she would take pictures, autographs everybody until
they were all gone.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Then we would get on the bus and we'd leave. Yeah,
and she took the time to really hear people. Yeah,
that makes.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Sense because she cared.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yes, she cared.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
She cared and that's important. And you know what it's like,
you know, you put the people first, and that's why
it's given to you. Yeah right, How did you guys meet? Like,
where did this all start?
Speaker 3 (23:57):
A New York We met here at our friend.
Speaker 7 (24:02):
My friend who's a fashion photographer, very famous fashion photographer,
Joe Lance, invited me over to his loft. They was
having a party. I was in New York because I
was president of the Modeling Association of America the second time, and.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I was I had just finished doing Brian Park Fashion
Yeah week Oh cool, because that.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
Was his show in New York.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Mercedes Benz used to sponsor at that So when I
did Brian Park Fashion Weekend. He hand a studio at
Brian Park. He goes, bring all the clothes and everything.
We're gonna do a photo shoot. You do your interviews.
But I have a bunch of mines. They'll come to
the loft. I'll bring him there. Don't worry, they want you.
So we're doing a photo shoot, a fashion shoot at
the loft. And his loft was amazing. Studio corner had
(24:48):
something interesting happening. I mean, he's shot for the cover
of Vogue Elle.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
All of these Like his bathroom is a set.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Everything, every every square inch is a set. So I'm
doing an interview and for Style back in the day,
and they happened to be still there when I was
trying to finish up wrap up the interview.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
He walked in.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Now I have naked models on one side, boys and girls.
There's Chinese food being delivered, pizza being delivered. I don't
even want to tell you what they're doing. They're all young, hot, sexy, naked.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
It's hot.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
It's a studio in walks pet and then he walks
in with a three piece suit, a tie and a
trench coat.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I'm trying to be as New York as I could
back then.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
And I was like, oh, I swear to god, I
think I turned into a total buffoon.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
I had no idea why I was in New York.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
I had no idea what the conversation was and what
the question was. I watched all context.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Really I didn't know.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Well, when you have a hotty like him walk walk in,
what do you do? And I couldn't tell him that,
Oh my god, the man of my dreams.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Just walked in.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, I mean with the naked men there, Like I
wasn't even looked because she wasn't.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Even interested staring at me all night, I was staring
at him.
Speaker 7 (26:03):
Well, I finally just like, okay, I'm putting it into
this bull I don't like around. So I grabbed him,
pulled him into the bathroom, pushed him against the wall,
gave him a kiss, and moving together for twenty two years.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
But I'll tell you what. The bathroom looked like a jungle.
The bathroom does not look like a bathroom. It's like
you're being pushed against the amazon.
Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, there were vines coming down, the walls were covers.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
You wouldn't even see the toilet or the shower. It
was like the whole thing was a set. So they
would turn on.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, they would turn on the hot water and it
would steam up the place, and you're like coming out
of the like it's I sort of got.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
And then we've been he's six.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Two and a half. I'm petite, on the petite side.
So he pushed me up against the wall, doesn't even.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
Know my name. I didn't towers, gave me a kiss.
I'll tell you.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And I sort of got when I looked up and
you just earlier asked is that real blonde hair and stuff?
And I looked up and I'm like, I've just died
in my heaven and if this has heavened, I don't
ever want to come back.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
And then we went. A week later.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
A couple of days later, I went back to Arizona.
I was in Scottsdale. He was in Beverly Hills. I
invited him.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
To go to a photo shooting.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
No, but before then, I got to tell you the
best part. Oh my god, he loves this part I do.
After kiss, we came out, really he came. We came
out of the bathroom and he's like, you want to
go hang out? I said, hold up, buddy. First of all,
all that that happened, I'm like, that was very uncalled for.
I wasn't prepared. I wasn't ready. What do I look like?
(27:34):
A fluozie? Like you can just pick up off the street.
That's the models over there. Yes, that ain't me.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
He doesn't even know my name. And my first question
to him, you.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Were said, you were like, what the hell? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (27:45):
But I was like, but you can't just be doing
this and then ask me out what do I look like?
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Like?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
No, No, that's not happening. So I told him, I said,
where are you staying? He goes, what does it matter?
We're not going to go to the hotel. I said, no,
that's not happening. But where are you? You could be
an axe murderer. I don't I'm not going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
With you just because that kiss was so powerful.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
Don't you get ahead of yourself, my friend, He goes,
and he thought. After twenty minutes of me saying no,
I'm not going to go anywhere until you tell me what,
I'll tell you're staying at he goes, fine, You're not
going to go anywhere until I tell you.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I go no, I'm fine. Look there's the naked people,
there's Chinese food.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
There's pizza, there's loud music, crazy shit going on.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
I'm good, I'm so good. He goes, fine, I'm staying
at the Waldorf.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
And right nice I saw a reaction. Hello mana shlock.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
He thought. He thought, Oh great, if I say to Waldorf,
I was staying at the Waldorf.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
If I say I was staying at the Waldorf, you
know this says there's a regular section of the towers.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
That's my right, that's right, shower about to go anywhere.
If I was gonna be cornish, I was in the towers.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
But what I but I what I liked. Trust me, honey,
I was going to go to a tent or motel six.
I didn't care what he was hot.
Speaker 9 (29:17):
I was like, oh my god, I sorry, but but
what what happened is and that could have been a
deal breaker at that point, because he would have been like,
oh for.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
You, I'll take one of these models anywhere and just
have my way. He don't make me talk about huge Chapman.
He took a picture of his little what do you
call that on top of the Radio City Music Hall.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So two days ago.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
So he stood up tall, he looked at me, and
he goes, I'm staying at the Waldorf in the Towers.
I have my own key card, I have a one
bedroom suite and a doorman. Would you would you like
to go and hang out in the city.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
I thought at that point he understood me.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
I wasn't just somebody that you were going to be
tossing an hour, enjoying an evening with, because that wasn't
what I thought when I saw him that I saw
in him. I wanted more and I wanted to make
sure that he was going to be that right one.
And when I saw his posture change, his demeanor change
(30:30):
his own change. I thought, this guy just doesn't want
to go to the hotel and you know, hang around.
I go, okay, let's go, and he goes okay.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Then the next day he got a limo from me
to go to the airport. And then.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Did you feel the same way?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Yeah? I did, I definitely did. He went to Arizona.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
I went back to LA and I got home at midnight.
I went to the store at ten am. And then
there were flowers being delivered every hour all day.
Speaker 3 (31:03):
Long, every hour, all day long.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Can I just he wants one of you? Where can
you find someone? Like? Every hour all day?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
When he drove when he drove away, it was like
a movie.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
When he flipped his head around to make sure that
I got in the car, and now I want to
make sure and you know what My question to him was, God,
that's the craziest ship.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Swear to God. I love these moments.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
So I told him, I said, what cell phone are
what cell phone plan do you have?
Speaker 3 (31:40):
And I'm like, what do you have? He goes, yeah,
he's everything you needn't know my cell phone plan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
And then he goes, it's Sprint. I go, oh good,
I'm on Sprint. Too, because because it was.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Minutes minutes, I didn't want to wait. I remember it
was sprint to sprint. You want minutes with somebody that
wasn't going to go anywhere. God have we've been together
ever since?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
And then after when I called him after the third
arrangement came in, I thought, one arrangement, okay, let him
sweat it out.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
It a little bit.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
By the time the Flores calls, by the time they
get confirmation, by the time they know honey, ipy, you know,
a couple of hours before I call him. The second
one came, and then the throw I better call this guy.
He doesn't think that they're coming in. I called him up.
He goes, we're gonna go to Mexico for a photo shoot.
Do you want to go? I goh, my god, I
just got home. Hold on you know what. I'd love
(32:28):
to but let me see. I put him on hold,
and he called like I'm at the boutique. I put
him on hold. I told my assist and said.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Get me on the fourth fucking flight.
Speaker 7 (32:37):
I'm going to Mexico, to Mexico, and.
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Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah I have. I wasn't easy in the beginning. Why
And I don't think it.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
Was never easy, not even no, no it's not.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
But you know what, It keeps you on your toes
because you you might need that, but it's.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Not being easy or not easy.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
I just didn't feel like if he didn't get a
real sense of who I am, I wanted him to
know what the expectations are, why spend six months trying
to figure me out when it only takes three minutes.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
That's it.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I don't need to take six months. Because I didn't
want just to fling. I wasn't interested in that. I
wanted a relationship.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
I didn't want to fling.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
No, you were over it.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, I'm always like.
Speaker 7 (35:29):
I was with someone before ten years that had passed
away the year before. So after he died, I didn't
think I was going to ever find a relationship again.
Speaker 3 (35:37):
And then I met Paul, and yeah, God.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
You know those moments are so important to me, and
I'll explain why, because somehow those are the moments that
I want to live up to. Going This man stuck
his neck out and took a chance on someone that
somebody else could have said.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Is very high me, and I'm not at all I am, but.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
I am a feeling. Both of you are a little man.
Come on, no, not at all.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
I'm so easy. He made me cut down.
Speaker 7 (36:13):
I only have we only have five suitcases on this trip,
like I usually travel a lot.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
It's too much. He's like, he's very high.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
But and people don't know this. They think I'm the
high maintenance. They think I'm the bougie one. I'm this
You're so in and sweating in the back so well
because I make it look so effortless. I don't take
care of things so easy. And he is the other
side of it exactly.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
So balance each other out a lot.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
But not only that, your energy and the gift you
give to the world, between who you are, the entertainment
you bring, the way you make Hollywood look. I mean,
you guys are iconic. You know you are iconic, and
I know you know you've been a part of many
other people's iconic moments as well. Yeh, what was one
moment in the store, in the shop, in the boutique
(37:05):
where someone came in and said, my god, this just
made my life complete. I know you've had many of
those moments.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Oh which one, Oh my god, I mean my dress
is won an Academy Award. On the stage at the
Emmys when they thank me when they got the Emmy.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
You know, you know what I think.
Speaker 7 (37:24):
I think it's separate from the The dresses are always
iconic and everyone always is like thanking him and all,
you know, he's like the fairy gown mothers what they
call they call me fair. I would say, what he's
been doing now is Armenion coffee cup grounds reading. Yes,
and that I think has been life changing for so
(37:45):
many people because he helps he What it is is
a practice where you you cook Armenion coffee on a
you know, on a burner, and then you pour it
and then they drink the coffee, and then we flip
the cup afterwards and let the grounds dry. Then he
looks into the cup and he reads the grounds and
(38:06):
the shapes in the ground. It's incredible he did. He
did Jeff Lewis well. First of all, he did adding
the Coles coffee cup reading and predicted that she was
pregnant and gonna have a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Did no way he did she was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Yeah, that's insane.
Speaker 7 (38:21):
He did Jenny Pulos on Jeff Lewis's show, like when
he did when he did Our House on Interior Therapy
with Jeff Lewis, and he predicted Jenny was pregnant and
gonna have a girl.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
She had just come back from the doctors.
Speaker 7 (38:35):
And so and so he does on our podcast every
week we do a celebrity that he reads their coffee
cup grinds. So the next time you're in La we're here,
then we're gonna do when our pod, he'll do.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
A coffee cup.
Speaker 7 (38:48):
When he did Teresauces copy reading on our podcast spot
On and she was blown away about.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
You got to go to undress with Paul and Patrica.
Speaker 7 (39:03):
But blown away because he saw in the cup about
about her mother.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Her mother showed up in the cup and the angel.
It was just beautiful.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Louis before they met, Yeah, how her mom sent Louis
to him. Yeah, I just have to tell you they
are amazing.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
I thought, Louis, he's so cool. Yeah, oh my.
Speaker 1 (39:27):
God, he's such a great personally, I love him.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And both of the they're a good compliment. They are,
they really are.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
They are.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
There are another dynamo couple, Like they just feel the energy.
They're very warm and loving and just wonderful people, you know.
And you know it's crazy because sometimes Hollywood makes people
out to be these crazy people and it's just not
the case, you know, And you see that all the time.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
All the time. Hollywood iconic. That's what Hollywood does. I
think it's the media.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
It's the way it's a exaggerated because you were living
underneath a microscope. So they take that microscope, they take
a scenario, maybe out of context or the way it happened,
and everyone has an opinion about it. So you have
to be ready to be able to absorb what opinions are.
Speaker 3 (40:16):
And there's so many of them. Yeah, it's hard to
keep up.
Speaker 2 (40:19):
And sometimes if you start hearing it, you end up
losing your way home. Yeah, because you end up thinking
that must be true. Yeah, but really, did you even
talk to the person yet?
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Yeah? Exactly so. And it's like he'll tell you he
did one copy reading.
Speaker 7 (40:34):
I'll just tell you a couple and the girl, the
woman's husband died and he was telling her what she
needs to do for for seven days or was a
process he wanted her to do after looking at her cup,
and she did it and then he saw an owl
in her cup and didn't know what she does owl
ever cut nothing. Seven days later, she sends me a
(40:56):
picture after he did what he told her on top
of that, sitting on top.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
Of her roof.
Speaker 2 (41:01):
And they live in the middle of nowhere or No.
I was insane, weird nols in that state.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
It was crazy.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
But so things like that, I think is really just
for me impact on every one, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
And you know what, like those are things that like
people just feel and they remember forever and it helps
guide them.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
They challenge so much comfort And I love that they
wanted me to do this years ago. I've been doing
it since I was five, But the fact that I
wasn't doing it publicly, and then when he introduced it
on our podcast.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
Everybody they know.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
I'm a dress designer. I'm part of American history. My
gown travels, the first lady museum across the country. I
wanted to establish myself as a West Coast couturier. You have,
and then his idea to do a fashion podcast, except
for the fact that I'm doing Armenion coffee ground reading.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
So everybody calls in, I mean, and they want, what
the hell is Paul. I thought he was, so you've
been keeping a secret.
Speaker 7 (42:02):
Even so now he's helping so many people like that,
so that's pretty iconic. And we do live coffee reads
to do live coffee reading parties.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
That's what we're doing. That's why.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
One of the other reasons why we can I can
I tell your people they can book a pull at
two dot com, p O, L A T T EU
dot com and we do virtual so they can people.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
So many people book where they will book.
Speaker 7 (42:24):
We send them a little coffee package with instructions on
how to make the coffee. They make it in real time,
they'll send us pictures. We jump on zoom and then
he reads the cup within live and the assistant isn't
the one doing it Patricks.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
Every time he texts, they're like who is this. It's
like it's Patrick and they're like what. And that's why
I'm on the way to an event right now.
Speaker 7 (42:53):
If they give me so much ship because I have
three cell phones, so he gets everyone gives me so
much ship for having three.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
But I'm like, you are the master communicator and I
know like you get back to everybody if anybody reaches out,
but tricks the one to handle it, and that's you.
Guys are such a beautiful couple. I wish you nothing
but success. I can't wait to get my coffee cup reading.
Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yes, and I.
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Love you guys. I want to have you back, like
five hundred times. So anytime in New York.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yes, now we know the way. There's a branch. Well,
I mean we walk into you. I'll say one thing.
Speaker 7 (43:26):
We walk into your studio tonight. We see Jennifer Ayden.
We did that show with her New Money. Yeah, we
see Angelina Marie. I've been talking with her about Paul
doing her wedding gown.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
Nobody knows.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah no for.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
A long time ago.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
So it was nights to see each other. Like it's amazing, listen.
Speaker 1 (43:46):
We it's a small town around here, so we a
lot of people film in this place and we're so
lucky to be here. And I knew you guys would
I didn't want to tell you who was going to
be here. I just wanted you to run into them
because I knew it would be for you. I love you.
Speaker 2 (44:00):
If I knew they if I knew they were here,
I would have maybe not come.
Speaker 1 (44:05):
Come on, you guys are the best. But seriously, you know,
make sure you follow them Instagram. Where can people find
you guys?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Pull at two p O l A T t e
U snow White snow White nine two one.
Speaker 7 (44:17):
O minus Patrick p A t R I K s
I M P s O N Instagram, tickto everything.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
It's all the same, right, so.
Speaker 1 (44:25):
Make sure you check it out and make sure you
check out the billboard that they just were featured on
with gowning out in Times Square.
Speaker 7 (44:32):
In Beverly Hills, Prime Video and we are now in
sixty countries. Yeah, and award winners Japanese. You do, because
when you told me, I'm like, how do you want
me to pull that one off?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
I don't know. Amazing.
Speaker 1 (44:54):
Well, I'm so glad that your dreams have come true
and continue to. And I love you guys, and I
can't wait to be out fitted for every event.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
You guys are my favorite.
Speaker 1 (45:02):
If you need a dress or you want to get
a reading, where can they.
Speaker 3 (45:05):
Find you at two dot com? All right, check them out?
Speaker 1 (45:09):
Thank you so much, we'll see you next time on Red.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Bye Everybody, by everyone,
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