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Speaker 1 (00:14):
What's it all about, Elphy?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Is it just the we leave?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
What's it all about? When you sort it out? E
bargument to take more.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Than Tony Cuthbert, the orchestra director and executive producer of
this program, has a son named Josh who is how
old now? Seven seven?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Finishing up first grade?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Has he come to you yet and said, Dad, what's
it all about? When it comes to birds and the bees?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That has not occurred yet, and I am scared of
the day.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Well, does he have access to the internet?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
He does, multiple devices.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Of course, we have a watchful eye.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
I think, I think, well, that's the question. It's an
uncomfortable one, but it's a reality. And Brad Paquette is
a state representative Republican from Niles, Michigan in the Great
Southwest where we're heard on WSJM, and he's on our
radio stage, our at and T line right this very
moment with a bipartisan effort along with State Senator John Cherry,
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the Democrat from Flint. Thank you for.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Being here, Hey, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
It's not that unrealistic the scenario that I just set
up there, and that is the reason why you are
working on this bill package that would do what.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Well, it's a tricky situation, but it's a very important
one when you have children who you know, it's hard
to monitor completely everything that they're going on, and especially
if they have their own device. And so you know,
we've seen other states approaching this problem and most notably
you hear about that website Pornhub being shut down over
there in Texas because of age verification. So it's a
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pretty clear problem that a lot of young people are
accessing a lot of miners are accessing adult content. So
what this does is the most first amendmently sound legislation
that we can craft. So it's based off of all
the other states attempts that keeping kids safe, and it
goes through device verification age on the device, so when
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the device is registered, that birth date is put in
there and then that is what then will restrict a
child from accessing adult content on sites. And so it's
pretty much like putting training wheels on a device. It
just makes it so that the operating system has to
share that information with websites, so websites aren't always putting
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up the how old are you, you know, input your
ID things like that. This goes straight through the device,
and it's the most simple and first amendmently sound piece
of legislation from my understanding, So we're excited about it.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
We've come a long way from the Playboy magazine and
the plastic wrapper behind the counter at the drug store,
way up out of reach to where we are now.
And what provoked you to embark on this legislative effort.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Well, I've got two children that you know, three and
three months, and they're going to be getting older soon.
So I want to secure an environment, the best environment
that I can, you know, in my home. My children
most likely won't get phones until they're about sixteen or seventeen,
kind of like I did. I know, and I understand
the plight of many other parents as a former teacher,
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and I am very much understanding of the hard situations
that parents are put in, even the ones that I
really try to be vigilant and keep their kids from
seeing harm. And so I actually was working with an
international Center for Exploited Children, and I was reaching out
to figure out how to address this issue from state
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legislative standpoint, and they had this national model legislation that
we worked on and talked about, and it's the real deal.
It's going to be very, very instrumental in keeping kids
safe online.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
You know. I think it must have been twenty years ago,
at least fifteen years ago, and I was in Dubai.
I was at a hotel and it was a hiat
or whatever, and I was doing some work on a
golf article I was writing. And at the time, the
feeder tour to the PGA Tour was sponsored by a
restaurant called Hooters, and so I needed to google something
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about a player who was on the Hooters tour. And
when I put it in the Google, the screen on
my laptop went completely read and there was a whole
bunch of writing in Arabic, and I was like, oh boy,
what have I done? Oh goodness. But the technology was
available then for them to censor. Essentially, I guess whatever
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I was looking at had nothing to do with my age.
But how would it work? I know you described it,
but how would it work if your legislation passes for
the people of Michigan and the kids in Michigan.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, that's a great question. And so from what it
sounds like in Dubai, they probably have websites or different
terms straight up band and so they're obviously, with the
First Amendment in mind that we have here in this country,
that's a big problem. We're not seeking to sensor information.
We're not seeking to keep you know, adults from accessing
content online or speech online that you know they should
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be able to access. What this does is the device
is going to have the birth date. So if a
thirteen year old it has a device issued to him
or her, that age will be on the device. And
so the way I describe it best is that when
you get on the highway, you'll see those signs that say,
you know, motor vehicles only. Well, this is something that
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will be applied to the device as well, is that
you need to have you that right age. You need
to be an adult, otherwise you can't get on this highway.
And so these apps, in these websites that have adult content,
they're already required to restrict miners, right. And so this
is why you always have certain even on gambling websites,
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certain inputs saying your age, or even if you're going
on to one of my favorite distilleries, Journeymen over in
my district, you have to put in your age. And
so it's incumbent upon the app or the website to
do that. This takes all of that out and it
goes straight through the device that the data is already there,
the data, the birth date is already on the device.
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What this does is just makes it so that that
information is shared to the website so they can pick
it out and stream it out, filter it out pretty
quickly and easily.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Boy, West Michigan has its share of distilleries. Because I'd
been to copper Craft in Holland, but I haven't been
to I haven't been a dream and yet I have
to put it on the link.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
You got to come on down. Please do, please do well.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Thanks for the invitation to anyone listening across the state
right now, and for the protection that Brad Paquette's and
John Cherry are trying to provide for you in between
Flint Niles and all across the state. It's Michael Patrick
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