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Speaker 1 (00:07):
The summertime in northern Michigan. If you're listening in Northern Michigan,
you're listening on WMKT AM and FM, and I sure
appreciate you doing that. It's Michael Patrick Shields available throughout
the state on radio stations and at MI Bigshow dot com.

(00:28):
It's summertime and it's hurricane season, and Dennis muchmore spends
a lot of time in South Florida. Looks like he's
going to dodge a bullet with the latest hurricane because
it's not going to hit the East coast of the
United States other than waves from what we understand. But
when a storm hits Consumers Energy and they're eight thousand
dedicated team members, don't hesitate. They set aside their lives

(00:49):
for the millions of Michiganders who count on them for
the energy they need. Twenty four to seven. Visit Consumers
Energy dot com slash reliable to learn more and curiously
a coincidence. Speaking of Northern Michigan, Tim maguire and his
wife Renee were in Charlevoy yesterday and they ran into
my son's mother. Vera Harrison is his name, Via Ambrose

(01:12):
is her name. In the parking lot of a hotel.
Small world, isn't it? As they say? Now? I mentioned
Dennis much More at being in South Florida and other
glamorous locations. Sometimes he's in Detroit, and sometimes he's in
Las Vegas, and well, he's in a glamorous spot somewhere
right now. I bet I wonder where. Good morning, sir,

(01:34):
how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Good morning?

Speaker 1 (01:36):
What world hotspot are you in today?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
I am in green Bay, Wisconsin, not too far from
lambeau Field, at the annual summer meeting of the Board
of Directors of Greenstone Farm Credit Services from Michigan and Wisconsin.
We have a summer summer event and this year it's
in green Bay.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
How about that? In fact, Dennis Muchmore serves on the
board at Oakland University. He's a senior advisor with the
Honigman firm. He was Governor Snyder's chief of staff and
with Greenstone. There, you know, the green Bay Packers wear
green makes sense. And you're there a little early for
the Lions game, though, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
I am a little early, and of course it's sold out,
so you know, there's no chance to get a ticket
in this town. So this is a tough town to
get a ticket in. So, you know, I'm looking forward
to the Lions starting off their season with a big
victory and going home and leaving my couple of Wisconsin

(02:39):
board members in shambles because they had their Green Bay
stuff on yesterday. So they were walking around puffing their
chests out.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
They weren't wearing those cheesehead hats, were they.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You know, they would have been if we'd let them.
They had all kinds of paraffin. They Dale Wagner and
Troy Celine had all kinds of paraphernalia on yesterday. And
Wagner in particularly is obnoxious about in his love for
his beloved Packers. Souh, you know, fun, it's fun.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Rivalry Jesus, part of farming. That's perfect, Yeah, acceptable at
Greenstone there And for someone who's never been to Green
Bay and maybe never been to a Packer game, it's
really surprising if you look around the NFL, at the
cities in which those teams are that that a market
like that supports an NFL team. It's it's it's very quaint,

(03:39):
isn't it it is.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
It's amazing. Uh. If you know, if you're a thes
In ticket holder, you don't have equity in the Green
Bay Packers. But you have a lifelong ability to go
to games. And that's of course, what's what this town
is built on. It's a it's a wonderful town and

(04:02):
it is uh you know, it's also the home of
of the largest paper products manufacturers in the world. So
they they produce all kinds of paper. I won't mention
which ones, but they's a lot of paper here. So
so it's a great town. It's fun to be in.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I want to ask you about Donald Trump in a
couple of ways. One he had a hot mic the
other day and he was saying to the president of France,
you know, I think Vladimir Putin wants to get a
deal done for me. I know that sounds crazy, but
I really think. So you worked with Governor Snyder. So
is that a naive thing to say?

Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think, well, I you know, you got to you
got to question whether Putin wants to do anything for
anybody else other than himself. U he's a dictator and
he does not represent the best interests of Russian people,

(05:10):
even though he says he does. And they have no
freedom and their ability to have a decent economy is ruined.
With this foolish war of attrition that he's running in
the Ukraine where he's trying to run over these folks
from the Ukraine. And why the President has decided to

(05:31):
help Bailey Mount. I have no idea, But do you.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Think somebody at that level, a governor, a president, a
CEO for that matter, has that much confidence in their
personality to say and actually do they have to have
that much confidence in their personality to be able to say,
I can get this done because I can talk sense
to him, I can appeal to them for the art
of the deal.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Well, I think that anybody who's president United States has
a lot more confidence in themselves than you and I
can imagine being possible. It's just goes with the territory
of being president of the United States, the most powerful
person in the world, and you've got to have a

(06:16):
confidence in yourself or you could never pull off that job.
So I assume that he can have that kind of confidence.
I also think that his adversary, and I consider the
major adversaries his adversary, Vladimir Putin, is got more confidence
than anybody in the world. Probably he's you know, he

(06:40):
runs that country the way he wants and he does
what he wants. So yeah, I think they've got that
kind of confidence.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Just thirty seconds. Why did John Angler seem to have
the power and the juice that Governor Whitmer doesn't have
to marshal his own party into any other parties sometimes
too into submission.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think John Angler had designed his political career to
build a party, and that was that was what he
wanted to do. And he started out with a design
and he continued to carry it forward, and therefore he

(07:23):
exerted a lot more influence over his parties.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Thank you, Dennis, much more in Green Bay with them.
When it comes to healthcare costs, we often focus on
one thing, our insurance premiums. But whatever, we're only seeing
part of the picture. The truth is our health insurance
costs reside downstream at the end of the cost equation.
But to really understand what's driving up costs, we need
to look upstream to the healthcare system itself. Upstream, there

(07:50):
are costs like the price is charged by hospitals and doctors,
and the cost of prescription drugs, healthcare administration, and technology.
These costs flow downstream directly into your health insurance premium.
That's why Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan is advocating
for a system wide solution to address the rising cost
of healthcare. Blue Cross knows that healthcare is personal, needs

(08:13):
to work for everyone, and affordability matters, and that starts
with shedding light on the entire cost equation, from upstream
costs to downstream premiums. Want to learn more, visitmibluedaily dot
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